/vr/ - Retro Games

Games like FF6 or DKC are bigger than all 5 combined, brainlet.

>>6489693
Not all carts hold the same mega, zoom zoom.
And I'm not gonna rank shit, they're all masterpieces.

World was on a 512kb cart, which was effectively the smallest cart for the Super Famicom. There were a very small number of games that used 256kb carts, only Ms. Pac-Man and Mr. Do off the top of my head. Maybe Smash TV, though I'm pretty sure that was 512kb too.

the real question is how did that bit get flipped for Mario 1 and LL?

>>6489715
I can almost guarantee that I'm older than you zoomie.

>>6489693
W > 2U > 3 > 1 > 2J
other than the placement of 3 below 2U I don't think you're gonna see a lot of variation in these lists

>>6489763
2 isn't a real Mario game. It's Doki Doki Panic.

>>6489783
did you know

>>6489783
Source? How can a game be a totally different game? Are you high?

>>6489783
Woah tgtfhats fuckinf crazy bro where did you even learn that

>>6489783
That’s nuts! Never knew that

>>6489693
World came out 4 years prior, larger carts subsequently became cheaper to produce
SMAS+SMW was released at the dawn of gen5

SMB3 < SMB2 < SMB1 < SMW < SMB:TLL

They're all fantastic except for Lost Levels, don't know what the fuck they were thinking with that little expansion pack.

>>6489869
You got your > and < symbols swapped, chief.

>>6489871
I sure do. I prefer doing numbered lists anyway.

>>6489871
>>6489869
I unironically agree with the reverse symbols. Mario 3 is overrated as hell in comparison to 1, LL, and especially World. 1 does a fantastic job of ramping up in difficulty and being altogether fun to replay over and over again. LL is my personal favorite because I am damn good at Luigi controls in it. World is clearly superior to 3, being truly about twice as much content, with better everything. 2 is tough as heck as well, though not as difficult as LL it is actually fairly close as the game goes on. Levels were larger and more interesting to explore than in 3, which feels like a downgrade in a number of ways.

Too many of 3's innovations were either underused or made the game worse as much as it did better. The double height screen shrank the levels about in half for instance. Good for flying in like one level, but that gimmick ruins more than it saves. The puzzle level in the ice cave is the best mario level period though.

>>6489945
This would have been great bait if you hadn't implied that World was in way a step up in difficulty. It's literally proto New Super Mario Bros., but at least NSMB has more actual platforming than fucking SMW. SMW is like 90% ground levels with no risk of falling ever.

>>6489956
>at least NSMB has more actual platforming than fucking SMW. SMW is like 90% ground levels with no risk of falling ever.
??????????????????????
SMW had athletic levels up the ass

I wish they would of put Mario Kart on there as well (Yoshi Island is shit)

>>6490182
Shit taste.
Yoshi's Island shits all over main series Mario.

>>6490212
Don't be retarded. Super Mario World is superior.

>Rank all 5 games.
If a game has Mario in it's title its trash for infantile retards

>>6490230
Nope.

>>6490231
Fag.

>>6490238
Absolutely it is and I say that as someone who absolutely loves Yoshis Island.

>>6489693
Things like data compression/decompression schemes existed since the 70s you know

>>6489747
cosmic rays

>>6489783
What? Holy fuck

>>6489693
I got my SNES as one of those bundle packages with this game in Europe in 1995 and it was the only game I had until like 2003 when I bought DKC second hand. It still held up for all those years.

>>6490242
>Yoshis Island
Worst SNES game ever.

>>6489783
What the fuck shut up

>>6489783
no, that can’t be true.
that’s impossible!

>>6489873
is this a real mod?

>>6489693
Why would you want Mario World to be bigger? It's as big as it should be. Might be a small game in size but it does so much stuff in the different areas that I can't imagine it being a better game if you add more to it.

make a rom hack if you want it to be bigger

3 > 2U > World > 1 > 2J

>>6489783
>>6489791
Did you know bing bing wahoo 2: existential bungalow was originally a rice cooking program called donkey donkey picnic?

>>6491058
Not yet, but hopefully someday.

>>6489783
What the fuck is this real?

>>6489693
>what is reduced production costs over time
>what is newer developed graphics compression

>>6491736
nice, anon. keep us posted.

>>6492769
There's already a lot done, but I haven't worked on it in months and it may be a while before I get back to work on it. But I have a lot of people doing work on other things so it might end up being more than a simple graphics hack.

>>6489715
>implying mario 2 USA is even good to begin with

>>6489763
W > 3 > 1 > 2J >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2U

ranking World above 3 is insane

>>6494384
i don't think it's insane; however, now that i think about it, 3 was more revolutionary for the series and *overall* is a better game. it really is just a matter of personal preference

>>6494384
It's not insane. It's correct.

>>6489863
Cheaper and more available. There was a worldwide shortage circa 1989 (causing situations like Osomatsu-kun on the Mega Drive reduced to 3 levels)

From a cursory look at the internal structure of SMW, absolutely about everything is compressed to hell in the Japanese version to even fit, then the worldwide versions had a REDONE version of the compression programming to be able to fit the different assets again. Nothing comes close to that, even in Nintendo's later games. After all, there's a RAM cost to heavy compression usage where you have much less data to work with for the actual runtime game logic. So developers would rather not do it.

Taking Super Mario All Stars for example, the frequently used non-SMA assets are mostly uncompressed.

There's interviews by Miyamoto about pressure they faced developing Zelda 3 to fit everything on the small cart, and details they had to omit, and avoiding an expansion for the English version... and how they couldn't get all their ideas in SMW and how it felt "unfinished".

World (SNES) > 3 (GBA+WiiU VC) > YI (SNES+romhack) > NSMB (DS) > NSMB U (Wii U) > 1 (NES) > 2u (GBA) > 2j (NES) > NSMB Wii (Wii) > NSMB 2 (3DS+DLC)

>>6489783
Oh my god you just blew my fucking mind dude!