/vr/ - Retro Games

No comp atm, so I'm stuck just looking at pretty visuals on a Pi4 for now, but as soon it's in I wanna play around with different paint programs.

>>7398924
What's the greatest TRPG for PC-98

>>7398989
I don't know about the greatest, but PowerDolls is a great series.

>>7398924
Actually Ayumi is the only character design revision I prefer in the new one

>>7398989
You can't go wrong with Metajo, Last Guardian or Tuned Heart.
As for H-games, Foxy/Shangrlia series (second instalments of both series are a massive imrpovment over the first games), Lakers and Magical Jam are cool too.

>>7398924
Translation when

>>7400298
moonrunes aren't that hard to learn to read

Still waiting for this.

>>7398924
Gay and it is in fact illegal to import these computers and their software.

>>7400337
Lol. It literally takes 10 years to learn baby-tier Jap. If you can’t read ALOUD you can’t read.

I just want more dithered coom games with FM tunes in English.

>>7401475
Please go back to the sega system threads

>>7401451
Me too anon. It looks gorgeous and I'm certain the based 46 Okumen guys will deliver a great patch as they always do.

I'm curious about their 2 secret projects BTW... Wind's Seed would be a good candidate, it's short, sfw, and absolutely beautiful.

>>7402069
super gay

I wish there was a way to google auto-translate in real time...

Any good games that are translated? or ones that don't need me to know japanese

>>7402292
Tuned Heart is great.

>>7402208
I have no doubt you are. But sorry anon I'm not interested. You should try on grindr.

>>7401476
10 Years probable for double digits iq like you.

>>7402229
Powerful OCR-based and process-memory-scan-based tools to translate Asian VNs and similar games have already been made.

>>7398963
What is the name of this program?

>>7402423
Oh, is that so?
Do they actually work?

>>7402512
These characters are just pixels on screen, you can use something like Capture2Text to process them. People have been using tools like AGTH and ITH for a decade and a half, back when no one would dream of having good translations or even official releases:
https://www.deviantart.com/avalonmelody/journal/Reading-Visual-Novels-Using-AGTH-TA-ATLAS-ITH-496372829
http://retropc98.narod,ru/soft/agth.htm

Searching for text directly in emulator's memory might not work well, and a platform-specific hook might be needed. OCR should work.

So there was a colleague at my job, the type who is used to open websites by typing their name into search bar. A great fellow, though. One day I noticed that he was really busy installing and configuring some stuff, and got intrigued. It turned out that he really wanted to play some Japanese VN that didn't have a translation because he had got hooked onto the characters by some other media, so he found the guides, the programs, and then we both got it running. So, never underestimate others' determination.

>>7402512
See /h/ for text hook software for eroge.
Basically the software intercepts the message output.
Some software also automatically translates the message using Google Translate or others (Bing, DeepL).
That's how those who don't know Japanese play eroge.

>>7402654
>>7402709
Another sample, the software uses transparent background at the top left corner.

>>7402654
>emulator
I had trouble when trying to use text hook in Dosbox.
There's retro Japanese game I'd like to translate but I couldn't hook it properly.
The game requires DOS/V in Dosbox to show Japanese text.

>>7402709
>>7402654
That's pretty good, yet I was somehow hopping for the text to be directly replaced. It looks pretty complicated and I'm just a simple man who wants to enjoy pc-98 games :(

>she hasn't been posted yet

Huh?

>>7398924
I thinking about someone making Corpse Party 64 one day after watching N64 jam list.

>>7404963
>big titty tomboy
Probably a lesbian.

>>7405000
Actually she's the childhood best friend, which means she's double not winning the main character bowl.

>>7405000
YOU TAKE THAT BACK

>>7402426
Looking into this, I found the game listed on a jp site, but google translates it to "Tuna Paint"

>>7407215
>>7402426
Forgot the link like a dope
https://hirokikaneko.medium.com/%E7%A7%81%E3%81%A8photoshop%E3%81%A8-web%E8%A3%BD%E4%BD%9C-%E3%81%AA%E3%82%8B%E3%82%82%E3%81%AE-4ba586f2f5ea

>>7407220
鮪ペイント seems to actually be Tuna Paint (Maguro Paint). It's likely someone back then was making a joke since it was a file format of MSDos Japan for images called .mag (not to be confused with the OTHER .mag format the west uses).

>>7407601
You're suspiciously knowledgeable, anon.

>>7407609
I'm just copying wikipedia

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAG%E3%83%95%E3%82%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%83%E3%83%88

Stumbled upon this, posted by a pc98 twitter bot.
Any info on this? Best I can tell is it's a doujin game, possibly called EVA DISK.

>>7407721
I looked up through my ~80Gb of NeoKobe roms, and I don't seem to find anything related (or even A.O.Software), including the doujins... :(

>>7407721
Did you try asking the bot?

Is there anything else like YU NO or really close?

>>7408550
Not that I know of, thank god.

It was too much for me.

>>7408550
Why is YUNO famous?

Only games worth playing on this platform are Rusty, Flame Zapper Kotsujin and Burning Dragon Plus.

>>7402229
So much fucking kanji holy shit. Is all the game like this or is this a CH translation?

>>7409596
Chinese translation.
I played lots of MSDOS Chinese translation by Tan Ton Nerw (Taiwanese company).
https://vndb.org/p6475

>>7409532
It's available in english

>>7408550
Try the other Kanno games. Especially Eve : Burst Error

It's much more linear, but still a great experience.

>>7402330
>translated
link?

>>7410248
Not him, but I downloaded from a link shared here last year.
Check the archive.

>>7401451
>>7402069
Anybody knows how to defeat the spider boss?

>>7410345
>>7410248
Remember that all PC98 translations are MTL garbage.

>>7410464
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T ENJOY TRANSLATIONS

>playing possessioner
>can't enjoy the sweet cyberpunk aesthetics because there's too much porn
It's all boring yuri as well so far.

>>7407721
FWIW there was an offical Evangelion visual novel for PS2

>>7407721
>>7407801
Best I could find was some old auction.

>>7411245
>>7407801
>>7407721
I also couldn't find it yet. Not even on Japanese P2P.. But to be honest, i have MANY GBs of J-PC stuff which isn't in Neo-Kobe and also haven't checked it all yet.
Or it seems to be (very) rare.
Then indeed a good question where the Botowner got that screenshot (if it's not a copy from somewhere else).

>when you put all your points into floof

>>7402426
These programs are shit tho. Try Deluxe Paint 4 or 5. It also has the Floyd-Steinberg dithering gradient tools and runs much better than chinkoid paint.

>>7409532
One of the few eroge of its time to have a competent English translation. Very innovative, especially considering visual novels rarely stray from their common formula. God tier soundtrack by Ryu Umemoto, I'd go as far as to say there's no other soundtrack that can match it. Good production value as well, some of the CGs are stellar. And Kanno has a love it or hate it writing style, which helps drive discussion. Lastly, it's really fucking good.

>>7411685
Any guidance for japanese p2p anon ? I'm looking for some stuff that has been dumped (pc-66, mz and x68k) but doesn't seem avaliable outside of youtube, so I would love to give it a shot.

>>7411843
It's really nice, even if the isekai part is not even close to the rest. But the art and the awesome music make for it.
Umemoto was a fucking FM god, and the yu-no ost is his finest work without any doubt.

>>7411813
>good idea
Using Amiga graphics programs
>bad idea
Playing Amiga "games"

>>7401451
Can this computer do transparencies?

>>7411971
Nope, only meshes (similar to megadrive/saturn)

>>7411873
Yeah I have mixed feelings on the epilogue myself. It has some of the best music tracks and visuals, but it's obviously rushed. Also, having the main character retreat into a fantasy world and commit himself to a girl who can't talk back feels like a personal attack.
>>7411971
You can do a screen door transparency by only drawing a portion of the window in a dithered pattern. I suppose if you were really smart with your palette, you could also have a certain amount of "blending", but that would require a lot more effort. It does have a framebuffer, so you can do whatever you want within the 16 color palette and resolution restrictions.

>>7411971
The whole image is 15 colors.

>>7412026
As an aspiring pixel artist, that's inspirational as fuck.

>>7412223
If you're an actual artist you should be able to identify the colors by eye.

>>7412223
>aspiring
>>7412550
>actual

Do you know what the word "aspiring" means?

>>7411727
In case anyone else is wondering, Genroku Sushi is a conveyor sushi chain restaurant and Yoshinoya appears to reference another fast food chain.

>>7412770
Yoshinoya is a gyuudon chain.

>>7398963
Ah

>>7407215
>>7402426
I have Grafx2 installed at home and it works great for this type of art.

>>7411863
Well, it's a bit too late to jump on these, since they are dying more from month to month and getting flooding with trashfiles more than before. Many Japanese switched over to Torrent and get their stuff from Nyaa, and it looks like they are now rarely uploading something themself.
Otherwise Winny, Share and Perfect Dark are the way to go. With Perfect Dark the newest / last iteration of Japanese P2P and maybe the way to go.
Anyway i almost got anything J-PC related, and am still monitoring for new files and cleaning up all those stuff (which takes long, since many Archive-Files are either sometimes esoteric like "GCA" and many ZIP are SHIFT-JIS, so i have to unpack them manually over CLI to have proper Filenames ect.., and still many Dupes) on my PC and will upload everything to Archive.org at some point in the future.

If you search something specific i can also take a quick look in my files if there is something.

>>7414531
Thanks Anon, you're litterally doing the work of god there !
I'm mainly looking for x68k rare doujin shooters, stuff like Exceed, Death Ephemera or Buray Force. Gekidan for FM-Towns would be great too. As for mz/pc-66 stuff, the existing sets are pretty slim so I was hoping to discover more stuff.
If you don't have them, no problem. I'm sure your sets will be worth the wait !

>>7414531
Thanks, anon.
Please make sure to post in the pc-98 threads or make one when you upload this!

>>7408550
sadly no, which makes me wanna kms

Is myabandonware a good source?

>>7417074
Neo Kobe sets on Archive are your best bet.

This thread needs more Mio.

>>7418772
Be careful what you wish for...

>>7407721
Sorry Anon
All i can find is about EVA-Disk by A.O Software

>>7418820
This is SO depressing.

>>7418820
just fuck up my perfect 16bit dithering and crisp outlines, I want that bland tablet game look

>>7418772
Is that a big sweat drop?

>>7418834
Hey I just watched the movie "Atlantis" last month

2021-02-26

>>7421678
>uses the 1999 Windows version stories
it's trash

>>7421778
Are you sure they aren't gonna rewrite the stories again?

>>7421959
they might change something I suppose, but they specifically said they aren't adding in the extra console-version characters like Kyoko and such because they didn't want to deviate from the way it was written before

>>7422179
it = the 1999 version, I mean

>>7422179
I hope they'll make a DLC or something for the extra characters.

Any good doujin shoot'em up or platformer?

>>7422359
Flame Zapper Kotsujin.

>>7422361
Thanks anon, but I already played that one. It was good.

>>7422409
Try Out Breakers and Last Breakers. They're not as good in my book but they're still pretty nice considering the system they run on.
Raid Wind in nice, if you played the Alltynex series it's some kind of prequel.

As for doujin platformers, Miko-san fight by Mushroom is cool. Just a little help on how to play : you can collect colored hanafuda, and each hanafuda type can eliminate a specific monster. But you can only use the last picked hanafuda, so if you want to use another one you picked earlier, you must destroy the associated monster first. So there's a little puzzle-strategy involved. Great art and animation, really a charming little game.

>>7423843
Thanks, I had a good time playing those. Most of them are oozing with souls... like Raid Wind using those awful square bullets but trying to make spaceships in the background move at different speed.
Miko-san kinda left me clueless, but it's because I'm retarded I think.

>>7424236
My pleasure anon. As for Miko-san it's confusing at first, but once you figure it out by trial and error it's fun. Plus it's kinda short.

>>7424247

>>7399010
PC98 VNs are superior to modern day cuckshit

ive always found PC 98 stuff interesting and cooler than super hyper real life "i can see the anime girls asshole IRL in front of me quality" crap that any place that offers a job DEMANDS you do instead of making anything actually different

>>7423843
I remember one of the bosses being near impossible in mikosan

>>7399010
does anyone have settei images for power loaders from PD?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS2Bs0TqChk

>>7427526
The scrolling looks pretty good for a pc-98 platformer.
It's not even an eroge, right? I'm a sucker for white stockings/kee-high boots :(

>>7427579
It's a eroge. There are a few hentai scenes between levels.

>>7428037
FUCKING YES!
Thanks anon!

>>7411813
where can you get it?

I can only admire PC-98 games from a distance because to me always seems that are few games translated, even though there are some that are ok for my moonrune level.

It also seems to be more complicated to emulate ... Or I'm just lazy

>>7429482
There you go anon :
https://gang-fight.com/projects/98faq/

>>7430216
Are you the owner of the PC98 Bot?
If yes, where did you find / got >>7407721 (EVA-DISK)?

>>7430434
Nope, I'm just a random fellow pc-98 enthusiast. Sorry.
Try to ask about your doujin on Tokugawa or maybe to the guy owning the PC-98 images website.

>>7430216

Thanks a lot anon! It is easier than I expected. Just downloaded and tested some games here.

Does every game has unique controls on keyboard? Cause I'm trying playing Briganty but is hard to figure it out.

>>7431673
it's usually either the control arrows or the keypad, and W/Z/X/space bar.

>>7431697
ESC and Return for menus.

>>7430216
thanks for share it anon
Do you know if it's too hard to configure the Universal Game Translator?

>>7432203
Sorry, I never tried it myself.

Based thread, have some music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5teI--xKx4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJUI8i2Aavs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn-w3ilKtVg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GPpz4kwu5k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et1lodxJoc4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU0SppobxrE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0IxAKCxyOM

Bonus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCt7682R-io

>>7432910
Good taste, my fellow Falcom enthusiast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erfrhbGHF68

>>7430216
tl;dr

>>7432910
Great selection anon !

I really like the huge shoulder pads of that era. Aesthetic as fuck.

>>7435830
Good taste of huge shoulder pads

>>7436545
Those are indeed mighty shoulder pads !

>>7435830
those BOOBS are huge and sexy too.

>>7438220
Did you say BOOBS , fellow man of high culture?

>>7438302
>>7435830
Whose boobs are bigger?
Natsume or her?

>>7438537
Who is the shoulder pad lady?

>>7438675
She's [spoile] my girlfriend [/spoiler].

>>7438675
She's my girlfriend .

>>7438220
>>7438302
>>7438537
>>7438697
Her boobs are monstruosly big
I want any sauce too

>>7438956
Rude!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX52uWF3gck

>>7438537
That's a hard one to debate. Both are drawn in differing styles, and Natsune's head is larger overall than Shoulderpads. Shoulderpads seems very large in these shots, but there's other ones where she looks smaller. Conversely, Natsune tends to stay the same size (with one outfit exception) even undressed. I'm no good at calculating this kind of thing.

>post porn games from the late 90s
>get brownie points from youngbloods that don't know what eroge VN was

>>7438697
>Kyonyuu Neechan
Titty Monster aka Mega Milk

>>7439252
Based boob debate

> /vr/ debating pc-98 breasts

I'm not a fan of the big boppers, I prefer the milky mediums. But I understand the appeal.

>>7399010
I saw these on dlsite yesterday, which is what drew me to this thread. Where should I start with this series? The first?

>>7439653
Depends: do you read jap?

>>7439002
>>7438697
>>7435830
Sauce: Ekudorado

>>7439669
affirmative

>>7440248
Then I'm afraid I can't help you, because I don't read it, sorry anon :(

>>7439442
The big bopper people tend to be louder, as biggers that bop are more uncommon for the era.

>>7440594
For me, it's nice legs .

>>7439653
DLsite has the Windows remake of the first game, which is graphically pretty different though the missions are supposed to be basically the same
Project Egg has the original PC-98 games

Leila from Rolling Thunder 2 got my heart

>>7443432
I always liked the soulful borders in all those games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qearAUsfAXQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDosHMMs9vM

>>7443449
People think PC98 is about dithered tits but it's really all about elaborate screen borders.

>>7443936
For me its about the YM2608

>>7443936
Mods are asleep, post your backgrounds quick.

>>7439653
I found this archived thread for anyone who is interested in playing the Power Dolls games. The mega links still work

>>7444749

>>/vr/thread/6362307

>8/10, would study in this comfy room

>>7444749
How is the games' plot? Is it really something worth playing for aside from gameplay and graphics? Kogado being a developer partly reassures me on that front tho, but how would anons here assess those games?

>>7444362
>>7421678
Misa-chan

Me on the far right, ready to fucking die.

>>7446081
Looks like Lupin
And she looks like Chun-li (pic related)

>>7446364
What a terrifying shop.

Narusawa Yui's photo in Isaku MC's room.
Kotomi or Miyuki for waifu?

>>7410464
That is only for that patreon translator wannabee..

>>7410464
>>7447514
Based Retronomicon, making schizo weebs seethe even after being forced to retire.
I really miss the guy.

>>7444362
Is that Necronomicon?

>>7447574
I'm sorry anon, I don't know.

>>7418834
Wait, is that Nadia?

>>7447514
And Nebulous, OkuMen, Nana and whatever other saviors of PC98 EOPs showed up over the years.

>>7447639

>>7447520
It's always the same guy complaining about fanslations desu. Nobody else fucking cares.

>>7448116
I know anon, but I'm still always both amused and perplexed by this behavior.

>>7447574
Yes, it has this very distinct border.

>>7448116
It's always the same guy pretending they are actual translation despite overwhelming evidence for the contrary.

>>7447639
Yeah the image you referenced says "Nadia Special 2", whatever that means.

>>7449440
Seems like doujin game because official one seems different.

>you just know

>>7449729
>>7449440
>>7418834
>>7447639
>>7448018
[LL Palace] Mars Special

Anyone got download links to some screenshot packs?

>>7450741
Here you go, anon: http://www.flat2d.com/pc98.html

>>7450792
Danke.

>>7411205
There is a lot of EVA games for consoles.
Girlfriend of Steel is pretty well known series. N64 game has a following too.
Saturn games are quite interesting. The first one is a story about amnesiac Shinji with a lot of downer endings and the other game "Second Impression" with female proto Shinji as a heroine.

Are most of these games lewd? Are there like, good horror games or games with really good story (that have been translated?)

Are there example of this kind of art but with some kind of animation?

>>7452574
Pretty high quality games started up on PC-98 and then got ported later on PC and other consoles:
>Policenauts (Kojima's cyberpunk detective game)
>YU-NO (one of the best VN's even today, you still could find PC release with original graphics)
>Words Worth (evil overlord simulator with hentai and that one horseman)
>True Love 95 (gorgeous dating simulator/VN mishmash)
>Rance 1-4 (HRPG series with unnecessary good worldbuilding and plot)
For the horror games on this platform the most notable are Dead of the Brain 1-2 (zombie survival horror games before Resident Evil made them cool), Marine Philt (survival horror during alien invasion) and Necronomicon (Cthulhu mythos).
>Translations
If they have been ported then you could find translations. If they stayed solely on PC-98, well, no, in majority of cases. >>7402330
I don't know specifics but translating them is a pain.

>>7452574
>>7453238
I think most Koei retro game are in PC98.
They translated some of the games into English for DOS system.

>>7453238
>Words Worth (evil overlord simulator with hentai and that one horseman)
And as always, the remake is very generic and soulless :(

>>7452825
Not really.

>>7453472

>>7453536
You can't be serious.

>>7453560
What? Did you say you want more remake?

>>7453536
>>7453571
They look hotter in the remake.

>>7453591
Generic as fuck, though.

>>7452825

>>7452825
not sure if this is the kind of animation you had in mind but it's more than just a static image

>>7452825
bikini

>>7453536
But I love Rinshin's art and Koorogi Satomi's voice

>>7452825
puberty

>>7452825

>>7453749
That is actually spooky.

>>7453420
Did they make something else then Nobunaga and Three Kingdoms for it?

>>7453760
Same voice actress.

>>7453801
I didn't know Lakers was voiced

>>7453760
She voices Misa in most voiced ports of Doukyuuei 1 & 2 >>7445929

>>7453858
In the OVA. Though, the Windows port of Lakers III has voices too.

>>7453884
oh I see

>>7453891
Don't know if it's the same voice in the port as the OVA, though. She also voiced the original Baiken.

>>7453792
Lots (some are not translated into English)
Taiko Rishiden series (none are translated)
Genghis Khan series (1 & 2 are translated)
Uncharted Water series (1 & 2 are translated)
Bandit Kings of Ancient China (1 is translated)
Winning Post series (horse racing sim, none translated)
P.T.O. (Pacific Theater of Operations/WW2, some are translated)
Tactic series (Sangokushi Eiketsuden, Legend of Cao Cao, Legend of Kongming, Legend of Mouri Motonari)

Some translated into English for DOS (and/or consoles):
Gemfire (fantasy game based on War of the Roses)
Liberty or Death (American revolution)
L'empereur (Napoleon)
Inindo (RPG, ninja)
Aerobiz (airplane business sim)
Celtic Tales: Balor of the Evil Eyes (DOS & WIn95 only?)

Some obscure Japanese only games like:
Kamigami no Daichi Kojiki Gaiden (RPG, Japan's legend of world creation)
Ishin no Arashi (Meiji restoration)
Genpei Kassen (Genpei war)

And many more I don't remember or know.
Koei also made some porn games in its early days.
https://koei.fandom.com/wiki/Strawberry_Porno

>>7453981
As for Koei pc-98 input, Tamashii no Mon is great too. Sort of a metroidvania set in Dante's inferno. Very nice art.

>>7454231
That sounds incredibly based. Is it playable/completable if you can't read japanese?

>>7454231
>Tamashii no Mon
Looks good, but I don't like metroidvania.
Most of the games I listed >>7453981 are strategy games (based on history) or RPG or sim games.
>>7454247
I can't read Japanese but I can play those strategy games and RPG I posted.

>>7454231
>>7454247
>Bandit Kings of Ancient China 2
This is what I'm playing right now.
Been replaying Koei games since early Feb.
First L'empereur, then Liberty or Death, then Celtic Tales and now Bandit Kings of Ancient China (based on Water Margin/Shui Hu Zhuan).

>>7454247
A little help from google translate may help to figure out which item you need or where you must go. But I think it's manageable. That being said, I haven't completed it yet (lots of pc-98 backlog to clear first... Devil Force II, Popful Mail, Amaranth KH...)

>>7453472
>>7453238
WW is an extremely simplistic dungeon crawler. You only get one character and can't use magic so it's just a matter of bashing. The remake added at least some depth with ranged weapons and going for action instead of turn base but even then it's extremely simple.
The remake also cut out all but 2 of the H-scenes because it was originally meant for the Saturn. This causes a bit of a plothole since most of the girls you meet in the second half are actually your daughters.
Overall the only good thing about the game is the plot. If the anime hadn't fucked that one up it would be the best to experience it that way.

>>7453591
I think the original WW had some of elf's worst character art of the era. The monster design on the other hand is far better in the original.

>>7454643
>The remake added at least some depth
Heh.

>>7454643
WW (1993) was released a year after Doukyuusei (1992).
Doukyuusei art is much better, based Takei Masaki.
Even Dragon Knight (pic) series which started in 1989 looks better than WW.

>>7453884
Speaking of voices in the OVA, shout-out to the pseudonyms used for the dub.

>>7455803
I miss when there used to be obscure pseudonyms in old anime and video game credits.

>>7456029
I don't think the pseudonyms in this case were because of cute workplace nicknames.

>>7455803
>Starvin Artist