/vr/ - Retro Games

>Was the Gamecube really weaker than the PS2?
No.
>This seems to be the case.
No it doesn't. Fuck your bait thread.

Porting a game is a different process than making a game

>>7884324
Yes, the PS2 had Ken "Second Job" Kutaragi and the Emotion Engine.

>>7884327
EA in particular stopped giving a shit about the GC midway through the sixth gen because the GameCube versions of their annual sports games never sold as well as they did on PS2 and Xbox.

>>7884336
No, 2K was giving them a run for their money. NFL and NBA 2k series were getting released at half price

>>7884338
Maybe but I’d imagine the 2K sports games also did better on PS2 and Xbox compared to the Cube.

>>7884336
imagine that

Is there any multi-platform title that didn't look worst on PS2?

>>7884339
weirdly the gamecube had a bit of an image as a bro/fratboy console (probably because they literally marketed it like that in the US too) so i'm surprised sports games weren't more popular on it, especially with the 4 controller ports
also ea and gamecube is a weird situation, the gc got all the bond and nfs games for instance

>>7884329
>Emotion Engine
literally SOVL
>Some boring PowerPC processor
SOVLLESS

>>7884806
>gamecube had a bit of an image as a bro/fratboy console
huh???

>>7884831

>>7884837
Thats not how it was

>>7884831
He’s right. Nintendo definitely tried to market it to an older teen/college crowd, at least initially.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=kIgpuGw168k

>>7884837
zoom zoom

nobody thought the gamecube was a frat console despite how hard whatever ad agency nintendo hired tried to make it look cool and edgy. i was a huge nintendo dork growing up and all the cool people had ps2s

>>7884848
i was there. he's not right.

>>7884852
I was also there and the advertising speaks for itself. That may not have been how it was perceived by gamers but that is absolutely what Nintendo was going for.

>>7884852
>>7884850
to describe the cube's image problem, the best phrase would be...schizophrenic. Younger brothers would see this and recall their older MTV watching, GTA playing older brothers say the phrase and show it to them - "isn't this cool?"

>>7884850
Next you're going to tell me Dreamcast and N64 weren't known for sports games haha

>>7884856
that's not what we were talking about nigger. the gamecube did not have a fratboy image, it had edgy advertisements, and that's not the same thing.

>>7884856
Then you're not remembering right. Nintendo was stained with the image as a kiddie console from the N64 to the Gamecube. It 's the main reason they made such a radical change with the Wii for wider appeal.

>>7884852
>i was there
How old were you exactly in 2001?

>>7884871
> That may not have been how it was perceived by gamers but that is absolutely what Nintendo was going for.
What about my post was unclear to you?

>>7884871
>It 's the main reason they made such a radical change with the Wii for wider appeal.
The main reason was the underwhelming sales of both the N64 and GameCube.

https://def-jam-wrestling.fandom.com/wiki/Def_Jam_Fight_For_NY

>There are features exclusive to PS2 and Xbox that are missing from the GameCube version. The player is restricted to having one voice for the main character - as opposed to the six found in other versions. Eight of the 28 available music tracks are missing. The Gamecube's hardware lacks the light blur effect that permeates on the characters and arenas. Furthermore, certain 3 or 4 player arenas have reduced crowds due to the minidisc space limitations.

I thought the Gaycube was at least more powerful than the PS2 too, but that's not true. This wiki doesn't even mention how compressed a lot of the textures are on the GC version as well.

>>7884871
The wii was massively underpowered kiddie machine. Remember that PS3 was out with blu ray, HDMI and optical ports, card readers, WiFi, a functional network and store. Meanwhile Wii ships with composite cables and it’s not High Def.

>>7884802
Quite a few, mostly it was due to lack of investment in making the ports to xbox and gc up to what they were doing on ps2. More often ps2 versions might look worse overall but have the edge in some effects.

>>7884336
>EA in particular stopped giving a shit about the GC midway through the sixth gen

Actually EA was one of the last few supporters of that dead gay system, when tons of third party publishers had given up on it (Midway)

>>7884887
>This wiki doesn't even mention how compressed a lot of the textures are on the GC version as well.
This seems to happen to a lot of cube games.

>>7884889
The Wii was a result of diminishing sales returns from Nintendo’s home consoles. Nintendo made a conscious decision not to continue trying to directly compete with Xbox and PlayStation on a specs level.

>>7884802
Gauntlet Dark Legacy of all games. You would think a port of a game with ps1 graphics would've been a no brainer on the GC, but midway just did not care. The result was a game with many broken graphical effects. At least the resolution was slightly higher.

>>7884324
na, just lazy faggots. Fuck EA

>>7884902
I knew I wasn't crazy. Dolphin cucks kept recommending that version and I thought it was butt ugly, and even the addition of the item toggle on the dpad wasn't that big a deal.

>>7884902
>>7884906
I think the game runs at half rate on gamecube too, 30 vs 60 on ps2/xbox. That's 30 with drops by the way.

>>7884887
Seems like most of the issues come from the lack of space on the mini discs and not the actual console specs.

>>7884914
>>Furthermore, certain 3 or 4 player arenas have reduced crowds due to the minidisc space limitations.

BTW this is probably bullshit, because the crowds are barely rendered/textured - so it's definitely an issue of the weakness of the Gamecube console itself, but cope more.

>>7884889
who cares. Wii is better because it can output 240p natively and has great emulation support for the systems I give a fuck about

>>7884916
You’re probably right. Nintendo has a habit of cutting corners on specs in order to keep prices low. It’s worth pointing out that the GC launched at $50 less than the PS2 and Xbox.

>>7884882
>The main reason was the underwhelming sales of both the N64 and GameCube.
Which was a factor of it being perceived as a kiddie system by consumers. PS2 and Xbox appealed more to teenagers and older gamers so Nintendo went for the approach of making something that appeals to nongamers since they weren't able to break that image.

>Smackdown games on PS2
>6 wrestlers in the ring
>RAW 2 on Xbox
>6 wrestlers in the ring
>Wrestlemania/Day of Reckoning games on the Gamecube
>4 wrestlers in the ring

There's definitely a CPU bottleneck issue on the Gaycube that the PS2 doesn't have - but OMG DA POWER OF DA AMD!!1

>>7884925
PowerPC was always an inefficient, lackluster architecture.

>>7884909
The game runs at 30fps max on all systems. I play the ps2 version in an emulator.

>>7884906
Pic related happens on real hardware. The lava shouldn't be a square tile on that generator.