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Give a character a weapon with accuracy higher than 100%
Use the item that cures Sadness on them to get Fury
Give them your Counter Materia
Give them your Cover Materia

They'll block hits for others in your party, their gauge will go up faster than normal thanks to Fury, and you'll counter attack.

This an easy way of getting Limit Breaks quickly.

Another is the forest after Nibelheim where a bunch of cap-things appear. Limits are based on use for Level 1 and number of enemies killed for level 2. The caps appear in groups of 7.

Fun fact #1: The Highwind is 777ft long
Fun fact #2: 7 party members in FF7 have 7 limit breaks

Fun fact: Elemental Materia + [Insert Elemental Materia] + Weapon = Attacks match the element of the materia.

Put it on armor and you halve the damage taken by the element of the materia (or in the case of Poison/Destruct/etc.. you become resistant or immune to the status).

For example: Ribbon, Hades + Elemental Materia on Mystile = Immune to every major status and only 50% of attacks will hit you.

> Get magic hammer enemy skill
> use a few times against a boss
> almost every boss unable to attack you at all
> well done, you broke the game

>>796804
>just wondering about stuff that's missable
This is a JRPG. If you're worried about missable items, get an item checklist and walkthrough that will let you know exactly how to get all the items.

>Use Morph
>Go fight those Triceratops Steamrollers
>Power Sourcan
>FUCK YOU EVERYONE I HAVE 255 STR

This game isn't that hard. Just don't get too attached to Cait Sith

Run around the forests until you find someone

Use enemy skill materia, it's really good

Buy HP+ materia if you don't like being 1-shotted


You'll miss plenty on your first playthrough, but it would ruin the game if we told you everything. Just play it, it's not particularly hard or anything and you can always replay it later.

Another good one is Long Range materia. Put that on someone and they can steal from enemies outside of their attack range (like stealing from Ultima)

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When you invade Midgar in Disc 2, go ALL the way up the tunnels to get back to Shinra HQ and return to the lockers and check again. You get Cait Sith's best weapon then.

Miss it then and it's gone.

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>Yep, if you have multiple of a materia [like Fire] attached to multiple support materia [like the quadruple cast, drain HP/MP, etc], all of the support materia work on the single command so you can have a single command do everything it's linked to.

>>796826
the entire point of making this thread is to avoid doing just that. as I am a lonely person i don't have any friends to ask about this game, so I thought I'd do the next best thing, and ask my /vr/ buddies.
>>796829
it'll be a long time before I reply it with my huge ass backlog, so I want to get the best experience I can on the first playthrough...
>>796827
I appreciate all these tips.

>>796837
The best experience is a blind playthrough

In the Corel mountains , there's a weapon for Vincent called Snipre CR with 255 accuracy. Seems like overkill, right?

Later on in the game, there's a materia that will allow you to do automatic criticals at the cost of halving your accuracy (I believe it's called deathblow, or D. Blow). Combining the two allows for auto crits every time.

AND if you have other party members mime Vincent's crit, it will land regardless of their own accuracy!

>>796835
>When you invade Midgar in Disc 2, go ALL the way up the tunnels to get back to Shinra HQ and return to the lockers and check again. You get Cait Sith's best weapon then.
Make sure you have Barret in your party on the way up to the Cannon too. His final Limit Break only shows up if he's in your party, and is permanently missable

are there a lot of side quests to do in this one? and how easy are they to discover?

>>796846
Tons, and some are quite obscure. Beat the game, look up a guide, and beat it again.

>>796848
bleeeeeh. okay.

Just a few basics OP, seeing as others have got you covered with other things.

When you start the game, make sure as soon as you get control of that guy in your pic, press triangle to go into the menu.
Go down to the CONFIG option.

Switch ATB to WAIT. This is the most tactical option.
ACTIVE is anarchy with enemies and allies attacking all over the place, and out of turn, RECOMMENDED is a poor middle ground, WAIT is perfect.

Next, move all those sliders to the right. The game has a lot of programming bugs, notably the magic def doing nothing, the same accuracy bug that was in gen 1 Pokemon makes a subtle appearance, and the speed of battles/messages is reversed.
Move those sliders on the CONFIG to the right to get rid of some of the monotony you'll have to endure.

>>796860
WAIT is for casuals

>>796860
>the same accuracy bug that was in gen 1 Pokemon makes a subtle appearance
Oh god no. I can't even count how many explosions and selfdestructs I've 255ed.

>>796860
thank you anon.

>>796872
I was just hoping to get a few of the most important tips, and I think I got that.

thanks for all the advice, just started up the game now, wish me luck.

I'm playing FFVII too right now and let me tell you, it's not possible to not miss things. This game has a shitton of hidden stuff and subtle story elements. It's one of the most complicated games after all. If you really want a perfect playthrough, read a guide.

But it's not fun to read a guide in your first playthrough, so, just deal with it. Don't get discouraged just because you missed some interesting stuff like materia or weapons because there are too many things in this game. Just keep playing.

>>796860
>Next, move all those sliders to the right

so move it towards "slow"?
but it'll actually be fast?

>>796828
I crey evry tiem ;_;

>>796891
that is most upsetting.

>>796881
Yep, don't know if it's an actual bug or a localization issue.
Magic Def doing fuck all is a straight up coding fuck up. Apparently VI has a lot it too.

one thing I hated about this game was that every fucking thing takes a lot of time, like 30 seconds of animation to cast a cure, fuck you square
so be prepared to waste a lot of time

>>796860
What the hell does RECOMMENDED even do?

>>796898
Maybe RPGs aren't your thing, anon

>>796905
When you use it, we RECOMMEND you pick a different one!

>>796898
This
>>796904
You do realize that only Final Fantasies are really this bad about it, right?

>>796904
I finished every PSX square rpg except FFVII
I can't get into it and that's one of the reasons

>>796936
you couldn't get into VII but you played through IX? that one had horrible pacing issues as far as battles went.

Is there a fan patch or mod or something for the PC version that actually speeds up the fights, allows me to skip the overlong animations and shit?

>anything I should know?
First thing you should always do when starting a new game is Aeris dies

>>796946
yeah, that would be upsetting except i heard about that back in like, 1997.

>>796837
http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps/197341-final-fantasy-vii/faqs/27656

>>796821
This isn't actually true.
For Poisone/Destruct/etc you need Additional Effect materia, not Elemental materia.

>>796940
My thoughts exactly. Can't bitch about VII's issues in battle without bitching about IX more. I love IX but the battles are so goddamn slow to start.

When you get to Mideel on Disc 2, stick to the forest area around it to grind AP and level your materia. By that point in the game you should have weapons & armor that give Double AP growth, and at that point in the game is the best place (before the final dungeon) to power level you materia (and even some levels).

Of course, remember that at this point you may not even need to worry about it, because the game is pretty easily broken with the right skills/materia, but I find leveling here is good to get an early leg up on the WEAPONS optional bosses.

With enough free time and determination you can get a whole set of Master Materia ready to go before you do the Huge Materia side quest.

Other than that, my only tip is to take your time and get lost in the world. FF7 is one of my all time favorite video game settings, and if you're anything like me, you'll find yourself getting easily lost in the atmosphere of the game

There's absolutely nothing both important and missable. Try Mug and Morph on everything (don't overuse Morph until getting the Conformer it makes everything easier) And grab every red materia that literally shows up, you'll be fine.

Fury tier: L2 Aeris
Best tier: L3 Barret, L4 Vincent (with the rollover glitch activated), L4 Cid
Cloud tier: L4 Cloud
Mid tier: L3 Yuffie, L4 Tifa
Better than Kimahri Tier: L3 Red XIII
HERPY DOO tier: L2 Cait Sith

>>796936
FFVIII and IX take a lot longer when it comes to battle animations. Do you even Final Fantasy?

Use enemy skill materia, later on in combination with manipulate. (to cast beneficial enemy skills on yourself). Easily best materia in the game.
If it wasn't already easy enough for you..,(setting ATB to 'wait'....just...don't)

Disregard plot holes OP, this is a FF, it will be batshit insane.

>>796838
>best experience is a blind playthrough
This
Everyone else
>GET STRENGTH TO 255 VINCENT CRIT MASTER MATERIA BREAK THE GAME
if he was doing his second playthrough, sure. FFVII is -not- a hard game, and none of this is necessary the first playthrough, even if you suck at JRPGS (which is exactly why yous houldn't be playing them)


Here OP, I'll tell you some easily missable things
>Zack's story is in the basement of Shinra Mansion at disc 3
don't forget to go back there. Otherwise, get a chocobo breeding guide, that's the only faq you need.

If you're intending to do a 'perfect item' run - i.e. collect one of every item in the came - then definitely read a guide; there are some items that are permanently missable (not even things like characters' Ultimate Weapons and Limit Breaks, but random things that are possible to steal at lower levels but get permanently swapped out when you get more powerful). If not, enjoy.

Don't ever buy nuts for your Chocobos. The only times you'll need them are when breeding; the only reason to do the Chocobo breeding sidequest is to get a Gold Chocobo (unless you actually like racing the same two courses in Gold Saucer over and over again for no reason); and the only nuts you'll need for getting better Chocobos are both stolen from enemies, not bought.

Don't spend hours of your life looking for all twelve 1/35th Soldiers like I did when I was younger. The others don't exist, despite what the item description says.

>>797076
This. FF7 is EXTREMELY easy to break, even on your first playthrough, and it's not a difficult game to begin with.

I'm doing a second playthrough right now (played it the first time when it originally came out) and my party is already super powerful - and I only just started disc 2.

>>797047
>>796940
I finished both VIII and IX like ten years ago, probably if I play them now I'll complain about the same things

Characters fall into traditional class Archetypes, and they have stats to reflect it.
If a character has a lot of Luck, give them Materia to utilise it like Morph. If a character has high Strength don't give them too many magic materia because it'll reduce not only their HP but their STR too, nerfing the damage.

Also, revisit Fort Condor constantly. Every time something new happens in the plot, consider going back because a new mission will usually be available. Well, if you like the Ninja-character anyway. There's a very useful weapon for them that's missable.
Tying into this, at some point you get a Buggy vehicle that can cross rivers. When you approach what looks like a village built into the side of the mountain, in a rocky valley sort of area GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE BUGGY AND PROCEED ON FOOT. If you go too close the buggy breaks which means you miss one of the Fort Condor missions (which unlocks after you enter the village and speak to the first Village NPC).

Guys, he asked for secrets and missable stuff.

Make sure you have a fight in every patch of forest, there is a recruitable person.
Check all the "notices" messages stuck on walls, this is actually considered a collectable.
Visit all the areas of the north crater maze.
Every time you have control of yourself after cutscenes and you see all members of party scattered around, be careful who you talk to first. Make sure it's the same person.
Always have someone who can hit long range, there are some enemies that cannot be reached by some combinations of party.
Every mini game in the game has an item reward for it for you playing well.

Here's personal tip:
Have Lightning-All equipped on whoever you are building as the mage.
Learn Aqualung, Beta and Bad Breath.

>>796823
because you drain their mana...?

reading this thread made me remember i'm playing ff7 and stuck at the fucking wall boss thing. goddammit

You can miss the two optional group members and lot's of materia and thus summons.

I can't emulate PS1 very well, is the PC port playable? The original, not the shitty 2012 cash-in.

>>799504
Sure if you heavily mod it with fixes.

>>796840
Wait, I thought Catastrophe was received from a guy in Corel?

Also, there's a point where you're in an underwater base. Before you get in a submarine, there's an item at the end of a catwalk called Levithan's Scale, get it or you miss out on something in Wutai. I can't remember if it's something valuable or not.

Speaking of Wutai, for the bar sidequest, there's 7 posters for their shop throughout the game. One is in Shin-ra HQ and is permanently missable, I think another might be in Mideel. Get a guide for those specifically, you'll never find them otherwise.

>>796936
>FFVIII
>Summon Eden.
>Wait almost 5 minutes to do 9999 damage, have to boost it to get it there.

>Physical attack.
>Also deals 9999 damage, takes 5 seconds to do.

>>797064
This. None of the games in the FF series make any sense.

>>797006
I really wish technology wasn't so limited so the map had a lot more activity in it. Like, there's Midgar, which feels sprawling and massive like it should, and then you leave and pretty much every other town besides junion was one screen big with a few houses.

Also, Shinra forces were awesome, I wish we got to see their regular guys and stuff more often.

>>799545

Actually, didn't Eden do OVER the normal amount of max damage? I recall reaching somewhere into 10,000 or higher, using the boost.

>>799557
I think there was a condition or something to make it break the damage limit, one I never fufilled. I know comet could, since a lot of people used Rinoa's Angel Wing with comet chains to do fucktons of damage.

Name Aeris "Imgonnadie"

Or name everyone "Sephiroth"

It's great fun.

----Try to max your all materia and get as many as you can. Later in the game at max level they sell for 1000000 gil. You'll never need money again.

---There is a dude that straight up sells GP at the entrance of gold saucer. He is right out side the tram every so often.

---For the love of God DO NOT go to the honey bee in.

---Enjoy yourself and be sure to visit the graves of Biggs and Wedge for me.

>>796816

second the fury status

>>796829


>Buy HP+ materia if you don't like being 1-shotted

this.

>>796921

>>799615
>---Enjoy yourself and be sure to visit the graves of Biggs and Wedge for me.


somehow learning that they die is more upsetting than knowing that aeris does.

>>796945
Bump for this

>>796816
>>796821
>>796823
Tips to win at FFVII? Seriously?

>>796891
Wait you mean that in FFVI slow is fast and fast is slow?

>>799981
FF8 is my favourite and everybody always says how "broken" it is. I'm just making a point here.

>>799529
What >>796840 is referring to is Barret's ultimate weapon, Final Score, not his level 4 limit break.

>>800210
*Missing Score

>>800015
FF8 isn't broken like that. It's broken like a flat tire. It has a ton of shitty, convoluted game mechanics that make it not fun to play, and it doesn't help that the characters and story are not compelling at all.

>>799615
>---Try to max your all materia and get as many as you can. Later in the game at max level they sell for 1000000 gil. You'll never need money again.

This. I was using magic attack + all materias on almost all of my characters, and had fuck tons of mastered ALL materias. Sold one of them and never had money problems for the rest of the game. Even bought that seaside resort or whatever the fuck that cost like 300 000 gil.

>>799615
>honey bee inn
Thought there was an optional scene there

Have fun OP, first time I played FF7 it generally freaked me out. Even subsequent playthroughs are still jarring.

>>799615
>For the love of God DO NOT go to the honey bee in.
Why not?
Not the OP; and I've played the game before numerous times. What's the issue with the Inn?

>>799504
Just pirate the cash-in. The scene release (RELOADED) comes with a crack that keeps it from dialing home. It's worth pirating simply for the fact that you're not locked-in at 640x480 16-bit resolution.

The music is still shit, but there's a mod out there to simply replace it with the psx music.

>>800348
The ghost Cloud thing maybe?

>>800348
I think it's more the massive homolust within

speaking of which get a guide to the character relations, there are a couple of scenes that are different based on who you've been nice to, and sometimes winning points with certain characters involves doing the opposite of what you'd expect.

Some of the scenes you can get are more relevant to the plot than others, so if you want the optimal plot experience be careful with your dialogue options.

>>800409
>I think it's more the massive homolust within
>Space year 2013
>Being afraid of catching gay cooties from a videogame

I don't know if this is because of the emulator I was using or if I was missing something, but there's a part somewhere on Disc 1 where you need to follow some kids down an alley to trigger a story cutscene. When I went down the alley, the kids had disappeared and I couldn't advance. Same thing happened after reloading a save. Just keep your eye open OP.

>>800423
I laughed my ass off at the Honey Bee Inn, dude. I was just trying to rationalize why the other guy was arguing against it.
It gets you bonus Aeris/Tifa points as well.

How far into disc one were you?
like what plot thing happened immediately before?

>>800432
I honestly can't remember, it's been about a year. It was after finding Aeris I'm pretty sure, but that's all I remember. I'll look at a walkthrough and find out more specifically here in a minute.

>>800432
As far as I can tell based on a walkthrough and a few vague memories, the event right before is the first fight with Reno.

>>800447
I don't remember anything about kids there, you should just have to go to Aeris's place and make sure that Marlene is there. Then on to Sector 6 and-

OH it couldn't possibly be the couple of kids that climb up Barret's 'golden shiny wire of hope' before you?

You just climb up the cable on the wall there, in an area somewhere off the upper right side of the slums. A few timing puzzles later you get to the awesome Shinra Building raid

>>796804
The only 'missable' you should be thinking about is your chance to play a game for the first time without knowing anything. You get one shot at a blind playthrough, and one shot only. Surely that's part of the fun of videogames?

You've got the rest of your life to uncover secrets in replay after replay.

>>800475
JRPGs are too boring to play more than once.

>>800487
i disagree, but i don't like playing 40-60 hour long jrpgs a bunch of times usually.

>>797250
>fight in the room before boss to get limits for cloud+aeris+whoever
>go to boss
>use cloud+other party member damaging limits
>use aeris' Fury Brand to give them full limit again
>cloud+other guy damage limits again
>boss dead

>>800475
This, for god's sake.

Why people hate story spoilers but love gameplay spoilers is beyond me.

>>800492
FF7 is about 30 hours long unless you decide to play it further.

>>799994
No the speed's fine.
In FFVI, the evade stat does nothing. Magic evade determines both magical and physical evasion. This means special equipment, as well as blind, and other status effects that should have an effect on evasion, do nothing.

>>796828

How could you?

>>800578
Blind has the best effect in FF6. Bitching cool shades.

>>796839
I think D.Blow has 100% chance to hit when mastered. But it doesnt matter. If you REALLY wanted to break the game, you would be spamming KotR+Hades with mime, winning every single fight ever.

>>797136
Cant you go back right after you repair it to get that quest? You get your buggy repaired right after beating the ghost boss.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps/197341-final-fantasy-vii/faqs/27656

All missable stuff

>>800348

If you get all the crossdressing items and choose the lower door you get gangraped by 20 dudes.