/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9656453
Her whole design is great

>>9656457

>>9656468
Meanwhile other Treasure games

>>9656475

>>9656475
kek

>>9656482

>>9656453
falcon > fox > monke

Enix oversight

>>9656547
I don't get the Enix meme. Aren't they just publishers?

>>9656552
They probably produced it, too.

>>9656468
What was his problem

>>9656793
down bad

>>9656457
Is she pooping

>>9656453
Glad you liked that pic I posted in the other thread, OP. Honored, my mang. Take care.

her tiny calves and lack of feet weird me out, especially with her massive thighs. the propeller things on her head also seem too long. not a big fan of her swollen palms, either. all in all, could be worse.

>>9657598

Massive thighs, paws, and "ears" seem to go with the animal-person theme - she's a rabbot.

>>9657847
(oh, and by saying that I am not intending to disagree with the suggestion that her design should weird a person out - in fact in my opinion it leans too far into furrydom to be entirely tolerable by any civilized viewer, though Marina is still a cool character who even looks cool most of the time despite her lapinity and I do like her game so it's not really a big deal)

>>9656552
I remember there was some squabble between Treasure and Enix regarding who owns the IP.

>>9657847
well that makes more sense, then

I bought my copy of Mischief Makers from a guy who would later go on, with his brother and two friends, to murder a retard with a hatchet, a brick and a hammer and become the subject of several investigative TV shows.

Also, i didn't really like the game much.

>>9656453
You don't have a point beyond "I think this looks like this in my opinion!"

Can't really agree. Gunstar Heroes did look iconic enough to pass as a first party title. It was Sega fan's answer to Contra III. "Fuck your plumber machine our shooting game has a board game in the middle" is what people would say on the streets. No you can't look it up the internet wasn't available to the masses yet.

This topic would have more legs if its foundation was based on more than just some random opinion.

>>9658113
I mean just open your eyes and look at the pictures in the thread

>literally missing the top of his skull
>they put this on the cover
But yeah sorry that I don't have double blind studies to prove someone's art fluctuates

>>9659080
Kek

>>9659093
This is high art in comparison. Even if Marina still has HAN face, the proportions, details and color make her look much better than his usual doodles. The side characters and standard enemies as well

>>9659147

Besides the point but I'd also bet Alien Soldier would have been more successful if the protag looked more like Merco

>>9659170
Instead of this abomination

>>9656482
oy vey

>>9659147
>color
Marina always reminds me of picrel--or vice versa. Red and white just works.

Marina is a robot instead of a human, so she can get away with just about any kind of body proportion no matter how strange it looks.

>>9659170
For me it's human Mirko

>>9660436
Wait when does this happen

>>9656552
Their deal before Square disemboweled them was that they would pick up a promising, atypical project for funding and then give the team a bunch of supervision from consultants in order to make sure it came out strong.

It worked most of the time. Shame Horii did Chunsoft dirty on Dragon Quest. Nakamura was far more integral to the quality of the Famicom games than Horii was.

>>9660671
Ending sequence where the clancer sage turns Marina and the antagonists into humans.

>>9660436
I would let him fuck the gf

>>9659080
I wrote literally cannot bring myself to play this game, even though I know there are other unlockable character, simply because I do not want to waste even 30 minutes of my time looking at this faggot. Someone really should have boxed his ears and told him to try again, or at least had the graphics artists disregard the hideous proportions

>>9659185
Kek
>Shake shake
>Penny falls out
>Mfw

>>9660436
When I first saw this, I thought he had turned into a girl.

>>9659174
what's wrong with alien soldier design? Not that knight isn't possibly better, but alien soldier is ok to me. Game was destined to sell poorly because it was stuck on a dead system in Japan, which was the one market likely to buy it, and it was already outclassed in the eyes of graphics whores by 3D games. Could have sold better if they had put it in saturn though.

>>9656453
it's a good question, his worst effort is probably human heads, so maybe non-human figures were what he needed. Still it speaks to a thread I saw once here about how certain famous, distinctive art styles couldn't be used more than once for a game because the art styles are so big and heavy that they'd overshadow everything else. You couldn't make more than one game with Picasso as art director, the whole thing would end up designed around that art. It's just intrusive and too unique and loud to not fit the mold. This guy's art fits that same idea, maybe. Like it was ok once on gunstar heroes, and maybe mischief makers was a fluke, but otherwise it's to the point of detracting from the final product.

>>9659080
This guy must have gone to the captain tsubasa school of art.

>>9663110
that picture actually makes me feel sick

All of HANs art rules and OP is a gay little beta nerd that I'm gonna groom and rape lol.

>>9663121
Is it actually 100% real or doctored (or fan art)?

>>9661234
what happened with dragon quest?

>>9663730
Pretty sure that's an official promo image redrawn from an original comic panel. Anyway, if you look up "captain tsubasa proportions" you can see some shit. It's all over the place.

>>9663102
Alien Soldier was literally one man's passion project that he insisted on making all by himself. It was always going to be niche at best.

>>9658016
do you think the game influenced him to become a mischief maker

>>9663751
Chunsoft developed the first 5 games + Torneko's Mystery Dungeon. Yuji Horii only worked as the writer/scenario designer of these games. The programming, game balance, and other things people hold DQ in high regard for were Chunsoft staff, and Koichi Nakamura was the actual director of 1-4. Horii, being a copyright holder and hype man, eventually ditched Chunsoft, portrayed himself as the creative visionary behind DQ (which is only partially true), etc.

Horii is absolutely part of what makes DQ good, as you can see from the creators he collabed with on DQ6-9 utterly failing to make good RPGs without him, but Chunsoft was massively important to the games before 6 and got fucked.

>>9663765
wtf
i know manga was literally created because japs can't draw but this is grim

>>9659174
Epsilon Eagle is cool as fuck

>>9663110
No wonder Japan got so mad at that black football player for making fun of their short legs

>>9656482
Megido was cool, though.

This thread is mere cope as Mischief Makers inferiorates to other games, even graphically.

>>9659174
You have bad taste

>>9659174
Cool and looks like a badass contra character

>>9659170
Fucking weeaboo-tier anime design

>>9666302
Everyone knows Mischief Makers and no one knows the ugly trash you posted. Your existence is a cope

>>9656475
>>9656482
Kino

>>9663887
it's him, he's the trouble maker.

>make falseflag thread
>It doesn't work
>Samefag some more
You never learn

>>9664026
rough. Can't say I'm surprised. Still, interesting how even in a society that places the group over the individual, there is still the "main man" phenomenon where one person on a project, etc. gets a disproportionate amount of attention and praise as the "sole force" behind it. The phenomenon still fascinates me but it's difficult to find reasons for it because I can't find the words to describe it ("main man" being my feeble attempt).

>>9660436
>anime Zyzz
I will now play your game

>>9666302
his shit looks good here, but it definitely feels like something people will find polarizing and probably grow old and unappreciated after long periods of exposure

>>9666467
what are you crying about now? anyway, silhouette mirage is known about by old nerds since it was a WD published title on PSX. Dunno if it has weed smoking surfer dudes in it because I've never played it (nor mischief makers for that matter), just adding some background info so you can educate yoself.

>>9665271
obviously it's not all that bad. Usually shit art comes from either bad artists or from dudes just rushing to finish their weekly panels. Tsubass stands out because it's classic bean head, go nagai style, and then it also has horribly drawn composition AND bad proportions. Tsubasa really stands above as a special crap pile, and it's funnier to me that it's a big part of why Japan likes football in the first place.

>>9666310
they're both cool, you're just a flag

>>9666865
I thought he looked more like a KoF character myself. Maybe not enough weird gay straps on his clothes to be KoF though.

and on the subject of that,
>>9662165
what does human marina look like?

>>9656453
This whole thread makes me feel like people nowadays just wanna complain about anything just for the sake of it. Fucking sickening.
>>9666881
>what does human marina look like?
Pic related, looks depend on the age you set up on your savefile at the beginning of the game.

>>9656453
Because your mother shake shake shaked you as a baby.

>>9667349
>nowadays

Lmao goldfish fins typed this post people were always like this

>>9667349
Which Marina is canon though

>>9667376
It was never confirmed, so i assume that it's a case of a "choose your own ending" thing.

>>9667349
>finding weird art weird and talking about a suspect pattern is t-truly sickening!
Get a grip you drama queen

>>9668371
>>9666302
>>9663110
>>9659080
>>9656482

Not sure what this thread is about but this looks like shit

>>9659080
props to treasure for finally giving the microcephaly crowd some representation

>>9667349
>shoulder windows
Stop posting porn

>>9659170
In a just world MM was a bigger success and the trio got a spinoff game

>>9660436
Do the others have human versions too? I bet the monkey just looks the same

>>9659174
>>9668371
Han is a masterful artist you are just a huge faggot

Did anyone ever translate the comic in the Japanese manual

>>9656453
Because you're a biased Nincel. Marina is just as disgusting a design as the rest of HAN's abominations, and her game is the most overrated that Trashure's shat out.

>>9673385
>using the incel insult
That's kind of funny coming from a perma khv like you, auster.

>>9666302
lol what a joke. silhouette mirage is one of the worst trashure games out there.

Ah yes, Trashure, the world's first tranny tumblr indie dev studio from Glorious Nippon. Their tranny character designer is responsible for many shit designs like the ones you see in Wario World and all the other forgotten underground schlock they've released over the years. Pic related is just one of many examples of his "masterful designs". Is it appealing? Is it memorable? Then you're doing it wrong, according to the Trashure trannies. It has to be ugly as fuck abstract garbage thrown together haphazardly so you can pretend it's deep and artsy. The end result, in actuality, for any normal and sane being that hasn't cut their genitalia off, is one of pure revulsion and confusion -- a completely normal and valid reaction to Trashure games.

>>9673410
Here's the thing australia-kun, you're no different than a tranny. You might still have your little virgin penis down there, but it's as useful as a mutilated tranny one. Soon enough, you will be ACKstralia-kun.

>>9673410
based
trashure just makes a bunch of weird shit and everybody's like ooo, so innovative.
konami blows them out. the goemon series alone beats trashure's entire catalog.

>>9673438
>samefagging and trying to set up a war between konami/Goemon and Treasure
You're as desperate as always, and as always, your childish "strategies" will never, ever work.

now that we're on the subject, guardian heroes is one of the worst games ever made. half the time you dont even know where youre at or what youre doing, the other half youre mashing through an extremely gay story.

>>9673449
I don't think you know what you're doing when playing any game, austroon. You lack skill and testosterone in order to do do.

>>9673443
samefag? is it such a surprise to you that other people dont like your crappy little tryhard studio?
konami vs. trashure is very appropriate. the foundation of trashure is one of the worst contras in C3 and the absolute worst castlevania in SCV4. then they leave konami because they think they can do it better, but newsflash my special little boy, they cannot.
gunstar heroes isnt half the game that hard corps is, dynamite headache isnt half the game that rocket knight adventures is, and so on and so forth.

>>9673489
Come on Auster. It's time for you to give up.

>>9673461
i dont think so, faggot. i play these kind of games all the time. my favorites are ninja gaiden black, god hand, and streets of rage 4.
this is not a skill issue. it's objective reality that theres a bunch of shit on the screen almost all the time. there is a reason why this game doesnt have a standing legacy on its own, its always padding to bolster a saturnfag's list.

>>9673528
>2 3D action games and one fan game from a console bemubo.
Si THIS is the power of the bernieposter/trashureposter.

Who was the mischief maker though

>>9656453
Nintendo quality control unironically

There are faggots unironically pretending Misshit Makers has good art? Top kek.

>>9676128
Another lonely sunday, eh auster? As always for you.
Nice to see You save pics of James.

Treasure games like Silhouette Mirage are my favorite because they're unconventionally weird in their own certain way, and the art style carries a lot of that (and it's good art btw)

>Dude, what if... we put shitty gimmicks into every single one of our games?

Treasure... was a mistake...

>>9676513
>Auster is bad at math
The worst kind of autismo, not even useful.

>>9676582
Auster loves n64 games, that's not auster. Stop misappropriating boogeymen.

>>9676585
>You
>Loving anything video games
The only thing you love is humilliating yourself for years and becoming a lolcow
>I'm not me i'm a boogeyman!
I feel sorry for your existence

>>9676513
Soul: The webm

>>9676513
How in the world is this bad? Trying way too hard, "ma'am."

>>9677980
NTA but
>grade school math in a platformer

>>9676513
Shitty gimmicks... shitty gimmicks out the AYYYYUSSSSSSSSSSS

>Dude, what if... we just ripped off Missile Command for the final boss?
Trashure, not even once.

>blatantly plagiarizes another company's creation
What the fuck was Treasure's problem?

>Treasure were brilliant at designing epic boss battl-

>is the shittiest bonus round of any retro game in your path

love me some classic auster meltdown

Mad that your Treasure thread got pruned yesterday, Australia-kun? Lmao

>>9678718
Gameplay doesn't change and also is optional, fussy.

>>9680312
>optional
No, the olympics part is mandatory for every playthrough of Mischief Makers, the game would be much better off without it.

100th post

SHAKE SHAKE

BUMP BUMP

>>9680729
IIRC, not all events have to be completed to beat the level (you can pick which events you do).

>>9680729
The math one and the dodge ball one are extremely easy, also, so "difficulty"/filtering can't be an argument.

>>9664026
Not according to my sources.
Koichi Nakamura wanted out. He was tired of making DQ games.
He wanted to create a new ip, but realized he needed the DQ branding somehow, so he asked Hori for the merchant character, and that's how Mystery Dungeon came to be.

>>9684027
Exactly, that shit is just a waste of the player's time, like why even include it in the game?

>>9686602
Challenge. I get you mean, though. It was hard for me when I was little kid, but I watched people older than me play it with no issue and no complaints.