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>Can choose campaigns, so that way you can just do all the Sonic levels in a row, and forget the other shit, or at least leave the worst for last, such as Big The Cat
>HUB world makes the game feel like an adventure
>Better lighting
>Basically Classic Sonic aesthetic but just in 3D
>Spin dash is fun to exploit
>Speed levels are not just narrow hallways
>Knuckles emerald hunting is more tolerable
>Tails levels are based on platforming and not mindless mech mash shoot to win spam shit
>Only women and kids care about Chao garden, so it doesn’t matter that SA2 added onto this
>Game looks better. SA2 looks ugly as fuck for a Sonic game
>My friend owned SA2. He got beat by his dad
>SA1 is a longer game
SA2 has better cutscenes and story, but it’s about the gameplay with this franchise

>> No.10442998

>Shitnic 1 is better than Shitnic 2
Besides the fact this isn't a high bar and how much I hate all the levels that aren't Sonic in 2, I'd still disagree. 2's highs are just way higher than anything in 1

>> No.10443001

>>10442995
Didn’t read.

SA1 is better because it’s atmospheric and based and cheesy and dreamy. SA2 doesn’t have that.
Hub worlds are also based and SA has the best hub world in vidya. Soundtrack is better too. Magical little game, would definitely repeat 1999 again if given the chance.

>> No.10443005

>>10442998
You hate Shadow’s levels too? Damn, I don’t remember them sucking so much, except for final chase which had those shitty magnetic poles or whatever. But how are the highs higher? I Sonic’s levels are better in 1, and the speed stages are the peak of both games

>> No.10443013

>>10443005
That's just black Sonic
>Sonic’s levels are better in 1
Less polished, more and longer 'traditional' platforming segments that suck, nothing coming close to City Escape obviously

>> No.10443023

>>10443001
>Hub worlds are also based
>wasting time ambling through ugly hubs and doing puzzles in a game that's all about high octane fun is...... le based
Then Chao Garden is based too

>> No.10443075

>>10443013
Emerald Coast is better than City Escape. Only the first quarter of the level is really good, the rest is just decent

>> No.10443080
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10443080

Sega made BIG the cat for retarded kids that think SA1 is better than SA2 could relate too.

>> No.10443084

>>10442995
20 years ago everyone accepted and knew these games were garbage. kids these days are just too fucking retarded to know the difference.

>> No.10443113

>>10443023
Chao garden is based. It’s a totally optional tamagotchi game, you aren’t forced to even enter the chao garden, you can beat the entire game without entering the chao garden once.

If you can’t appreciate the downtime in the hub world and how aesthetic it is, I pity you.

>> No.10443116

>>10443084
I wanted a Dreamcast because I played a demo of SA at toys r us in 1999 (I scraped my knee at school and it was oozing blood while I was sitting in the rocker chair thing they had set up playing it).

They are absolutely not garbage but I guess I can see how an olderfag would think so, they are radically different from the 2D games.

>> No.10443121

>>10443113
You know what's based? My dick

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>>10443080
Big’s stages are fucking based little newfaggot.

It broke up the platforming with sega bass fishing (based). You are SWINE.

>> No.10443131

>>10442995
no. sa2b is peak sega and millennial feel
>>10442998
the collectathon levels aren't so bad they're just a letdown after speed levels
>>10443075
>generic melody
>generic beach
>no enemies
>no pits
>no truck
>a whale that swiming through rock pillars thoughever ???
no

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10443137

>>10443131
>Not so bad
>Mad Space
Disgusting

>> No.10443139

>>10443131
SA1 is peak millennial feel. Most millennials were aging out of sonic when SA2B came out.

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>> No.10443161

>>10443127
When Big snagged a fish the music was really loud.

>> No.10443164

>>10443139
way to say sonic is for babbys

>> No.10443170

>>10443158
Sometimes I forget that IGN used to have balls

https://www.ign.com/articles/2010/09/23/sonic-adventure-review

>> No.10443172

>>10443170
>This score is wrong. They had to take account the time this game came out 3d platformers were clunky and this also is sonic's first real 3d game.
kek

>> No.10443185

>>10443001
This
SA1 makes you feel like you’re in the era it was made for. It has a hypnotic quality.

>> No.10443237

>>10442995
>SA1 is better than SA2
This is objectively true but nu-sonic autists can't comprehend this simple fact.

>> No.10443271

I still have my launch copy of SA1 and it's still a god awful game.
Yes the case is busted. Fuck sega's design on those things.

>> No.10443285

It's soulless how Tails just acts like Sonic and you can play his levels with him

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10443296

>>10443185
SA1 is infinitely better than SA2 and it's because you felt like you lived in that world. There was no gay fast travel screen, you wanted to go somewhere you walked. You talked to the people, hell I'm sure this game helped me learn to read even. You got to see the story through the lens of all 6 characters and even through chaos himself. It wasn't some faggy light side vs dark side shit like in SA2. Also no eccentric abilities like sonic turning into a goddamn bouncy ball breaking steel crates, so fucking stupid. Also direct references to the 2D games make this the only true direct sequel to them, no other sonic game minus generations has mentioned them story wise so that's why sonic feels like a fucking hodgepodge of shit ideas mixed with no continuous story so sonic team can go back to the drawing board when they fuck up without worrying about continuity of the story. Seriously why hasn't sega gone back to this 10/10 gameplay? It's not just about going fast but exploration. I guess you could say frontiers does this but it just doesn't feel satisfying or visually distinctive enough to matter. As time goes on the games get worse and worse, created by people who are hired solely to turn a profit rather than people who are passionate about gaming. Just another one of my favorite childhood franchises that has gone to shit. This timeline fucking sucks.

https://youtu.be/lQem15Ow6hw?si=oTpc8rVjEZIvcuwO

>> No.10443305

>>10443170
Sorry but that review is from 2010. All major publications at the time gave sa1 high marks when it came out in 98-99

>> No.10443334

Golden Axe

>> No.10443738

>>10443305
That makes sense. Sega was notorious for moneyhatting the shit out of reviewers during their golden hour. I guess this is another good proof for that

>> No.10445596

Sonic adventure battle 2 had cooler levels overall

>> No.10445623

>>10442995
>30 FPS compared to SA2's 60 FPS
SA2 is better for that reason alone.

>> No.10445693

>>10445623
Only for the time.

>> No.10445883

>>10442995
>SA2 has better cutscenes and story
Actually even this is worse. SA2 has that programming error where everyone talks over each other, and the story takes itself too seriously. SA1 feels like a slightly darker episode of Satam, SA2 tries to be some shitty late night anime plot.

>> No.10446803

>>10443170
They shat all over a Pokemon game not too long ago, that takes some balls

>> No.10446810

>>10442995
>shit is better than piss

>> No.10446858

>>10442995
>SA2 had a better story
haha no

>> No.10446862

>>10446810
Piss is better than shit. You can drink your own piss in a pinch, you can’t eat your own shit.

Therefore SA1 on Dreamcast is the best adventure game.

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10446864

>>10446862
>food analogy

>> No.10447280

>>10443137
Mad Space is fun, even when doing A-Ranks it's not too bad. Meteor Herd is the one that's annoying

>> No.10447610

>>10447280
I hate the vertical navigation of those games. Meteor herd is more annoying in that regard.

>> No.10447615

Did SA1 or SA2 jump the shark first?

>> No.10447635
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10447635

>>10447615
SA1

>> No.10447829

>>10442995
Here you guys go again putting two bad bitches against each other for no reason. I love SA1 and I love SA2. Both have extremely high highs and are very charming games that can easily make you overlook the problems they've got.

>> No.10448598

This games story and characters are really autistic. It’s even patronizing to a 7 year old. They could be playing Sly Cooper or Ratchet & Clank without being like a tard

>> No.10450752

>>10446864
>shit;
>piss;
>Food
umm nigga what you eating?

>> No.10450818

>>10450752
better than you.

>> No.10451090

>>10450818
nigga you think shit & piss are food?

>> No.10451172

>>10450752
That post did refer to drinking piss and eating shit.

>> No.10451297

>>10451090
cope & seethe

>> No.10451308

>>10442995
>Knuckles emerald hunting is more tolerable
this is always the easiest red flag to notice to about somebody's critique. when they talk about the emerald radar and say that having all 3 at once is just SO MUCH BETTER than one at a time, its a clear sign that the person speaking is retarded and their opinion is worthless. theres nothing wrong with one at a time, and only retards get filtered by how to properly utilize it. they dont realize that even with all 3 beeping at once, you can only hunt down one at a time. they think that just because they traveled in one direction and went further from one, but closer to another, that now they dont have to change direction and go back, that they've somehow made more progress and it was more convenient. their brain is so stupid that it literally tricks themselves, and so incapable of focus that just hunting down 1 at a time is a monumental ask. adhd retards.

most of your other points are retarded too, but complaining about the radar is the just such a dead giveaway that your opinions are worthless and come from a worthless person.

>> No.10451830

>>10442995
You're right and let no one tell you otherwise. SA2 has a fantastic opening with City Escape, a whole bunch of crap in between, and ends big with Live and Learn. That's about it.

>> No.10452237

>>10451308
>Liking shit
Kek