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It's time for a Dragon Quest thread!

Which ones have you played? Are you playing one now? Do you have a favorite?

Favorite songs?
https://youtu.be/MOX4nd8zHIg
https://youtu.be/f0jJ2u2rk3k
https://youtu.be/qA6IfcvX_bU

Currently I am on VIII, and it's oustanding but will be going back for V - VII following it. I can't wait. Especially since V is many people's favorite, I'm super curious about it.

>> No.3085607
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*run*

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>>3085606
Oh, and art is super appreciated. Here's one I hadn't seen before of the Hero's home in DQ4.

>>3085607
DAMN YOU

>> No.3085618

I think I'm going to get the Android version of DQ4. DQ5's party chat on the DS was too great, and now I don't want to play a version of DQ4 that doesn't have it.

>> No.3085619

Played 1-3 so far. I keep procrastinating 4.

>> No.3085665
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Starting snes III soon, right now grinding personalitites for my party. First time playing III, pretty excited.

I'm excited for VII and weirdly not VIII on 3ds, haven't played either. VII seems really cool to me, still I hear a lot of shitty things about so I'm kinda less excited. VIII seems really boring to me, just from the character designs it seems like nothing special.

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>>3085618
Go for it senpai, the mobile versions of DQ4 don't seem to have the weird stretched graphics that 1-3 do and I heard the translation is fair.

>>3085619
Don't put it off! 4 is my personal favorite at least thus far. It's an awesome game but it's awesome in a lot of ways that DQ3 isn't, and vice-versa.

>>3085665
>First time playing III, pretty excited.
You should be! If you liked 1 or 2 at all then get ready for all of the Dragon Quest-yness you can handle imo.

>VII seems really cool to me
Same here, I can't wait to get to it. Part of me is interested in a suuuper long DQ, the other half dreads it. Can't agree on VIII being boring though, I couldn't be more into it since I'm playing as I write this post.

>> No.3085684

>>3085612
Why would a secret settlement have an inn?

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>>3085694
I love female soldier so much. I came when I found her in DQ8.

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>>3085706

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>>3085713

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>>3085694
>>3085706
>>3085713
>>3085718
>female solider art
>no muscles
Am supposed to be aroused?

Always thought the fighter and sage was the cutest.

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>>3085731
You're not wrong. I like them all.

Though my DQ Waifu is still Moonbrooke who I'll probably be posting later

>> No.3085823

>>3085731
Does it say 龍 for Dragon Quest?

>> No.3085852

>Which ones have you played?
All of them except 2 and 7, also not the spin-offs like DQ Monsters.
>Are you playing one now?
No
>Do you have a favorite?
4
Favorite songs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iR9Is3SBcw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwCMoeaXSlU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K752z7Dp3nk

>> No.3085860

>>3085823
No, it says 龍 for Dragon Ball.

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>>3085606
Only played snes V and IV ds.

Starting III on snes.

Of the two I played I preferred IV, just felt more enjoyable to me.

>> No.3085979

>>3085926
If you like III and plan to play the first 2, I recommend I before II because you'll be following the games story chronologically.

>> No.3086245

DQ >BoF, right?

>> No.3086250

>>3086245
In terms of sales and general popularity, yes.

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>>3085731
I didn't get to the muscles yet, my apologies.

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>>3086471

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Does anyone have the .apks for the Android versions? I don't trust most of the hosting sites.

>> No.3086589

>>3085607
>not a gif
Free exp!

>> No.3086595

>>3085926
Looks like the box art for an Atari cartridge.

>> No.3086614

>>3086471

Female Soldier best DQ3 girl.

>> No.3086616

I've played through IV - VIII and enjoyed them all. IV is my favorite!

>> No.3086680

anyone else enjoying DQA?

>> No.3086726

What is it like?

>> No.3086729

>>3085684
Because Tumblr.

>> No.3086832

>>3085926
I hate fuckers like you that don't start at the first game in the series

SHINU!!! (die in Nihongo (Japanese))

>> No.3086836

>>3086832
Shinei, anon.

>> No.3086839

>>3086836
Thanks bud, arigato.

>> No.3086875

>>3086836
Shine. It's embarressing when you correct somebody but you're actually wrong.

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>>3085671
The problem is I can't decide which version to play. For 1-3 I went with the SFC but they never did that for 4 so my main options are PS1 and DS both of which have their issues.
I guess I'll have to settle with rotating my screen and playing the DS port.

>> No.3086942

>>3086498
BUY THEM KEKBOY

>> No.3086947
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I started to play Dragon Quest two years ago, and completed de first 4 Dragon Quest (I - III, GBC versions. And IV on DS)

At this moment, I played the same number of DQ games than Final Fantasy (I, IV, VI and VII), and... I think that FF is fucking overrrated.

Is not that "FF games are bad" (at least, for me). Is more like "Dragon Quest is fucking amazing, and deserves MUCH MORE populariry" (specially in Europe).

At this moment, I think that DQ IV is one of the best RPGs I played. Specially, if we consider when the game cames out.

But my favorite is still Dragon Quest I (that simplicity... that "victory march to the starting point"!!). And, of course I loved DQ III, specially when you return to DQ I map, but in the past

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>>3086938
I ran into the same issue. I was real close to buying the cart for DS 4 but I ended up playing the NES version with a game genie code that lets you control all your party members. Made it very enjoyable, although the AI isn't super bad or anything.

>>3086498
>>3086942
This, senpai. Those are official releases and the franchise needs some $$. Show your support! :D

>>3086947
I relate to this post (especially about IV!), just swap out two years with one year. For a long time I felt like Final Fantasy was a boot that didn't fit (in terms of my taste anyway, but I kept playing/trying them since they're so highly praised), then I learned all along that Dragon Quest was what I wanted. Classic RPGs where fighting monsters and stuff is the fun part and not a huge overblown story that gets in the way of the gameplay.

Just my thoughts though, this ain't a Final Fantasy thread.

>> No.3086970

>>3086954
I decided to play IV with the AI activated (the most generic "AI configuration" on DS). Sometimes, shit happens in the worst possible way. But sometimes, the AI make some clever decissions.
I guess the NES version is much more painful, but I wanted to try a similar experience.

My fear with DQ, is if VII and VIII are "story is first priority, NOT gameplay!" like post-VI FF.

Well, the 3DS remakes will be able to clear my doubts!

>> No.3086975

>>3086954
The Famicom is kana only which is a no go for me.

>> No.3086980

>>3086970
>My fear with DQ, is if VII and VIII are "story is first priority, NOT gameplay!" like post-VI FF.

We share fears as well, lol. I can't speak for VII, but VIII is absolutely what you'd want it to be. The skill tree, leveling up to be able to pass the next dungeon/boss, the awesome feeling of getting that super dope sword/axe/whip/bow and watching your stats grow. It's all there, man, it's great.

There's voice acting in the PS2 version (which I quite like but it can be turned off if you don't like it), but only important scenes are voiced. It's an awesome game to me. I'm about 30 hours in and I'm supposedly about 1/3rd of the way through the main quest. So it's big, but the focus is still on interesting town-to-town scenarios and people's stories rather than player character drama. If that makes any sense.

It's super Dragon Quest-y, you'll like it!

>>3086975
Oh, I see. You don't wanna play it in English?

>> No.3086991

>>3086954

Alena is one of my favorite characters of all RPGs. Is not only a "strong female warrior with femenine look". She's the mother-fucking monk! The class who usually is PURE POWER! And also... a fucking princess!

Something similar to Edgar from FF VI. A man-slut, and a king!

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>>3086991
Alena's so invaluable, and so cute!

>> No.3087035

>>3086970
>I guess the NES version is much more painful, but I wanted to try a similar experience.

Not really, you have a bunch of choices for tactics.

One thing the AI does that's an absolute lifesaver is cancel their planned attack to heal a friendly character instead. I can't tell you how many times I've had characters KOed because I had to wait until the next turn to heal them and the monsters beat them down before I get a chance when using manual commands.

>>3086954
> I ended up playing the NES version with a game genie code that lets you control all your party members

So I'm guessing you didn't ever use Taloon in your party, then. The AI makes him do some absolutely INCREDIBLE combat maneuvers that you can't do when you manually control him.

Things Taloon can do when the AI controls him:

Stun the enemy party for a turn
Get additional critical hits
Interfere with enemy spellcasting
Stun a single enemy for TWO TURNS
Blind enemies for a turn
Attack THREE FUCKING TIMES

AI Taloon is the best support character in the entire fucking SERIES.

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>>3086832
Sorry anon, maybe some day I'll play I.
>>3086947
I feel like final fantasy should be cooler and more fun but I just like dragon quest much better. I've never been able to finish a final fantasy game but fell in love with the dragon quest games I played.

>> No.3087056

>>3087035
>Taloon's crazy band of merchants show up

Godsend.

>> No.3087171

>>3086998
An otherwise fantastic character design which is spoiled by the dumbest fucking hat.

>> No.3087184

>>3085606
For Dragon Quest IV, is the mobile version good?
I got the DS version, but it's got no party chat, which is rustling me.

>> No.3087194

>>3086980
I'm learning Japanese not just for untranslated stuff but also to get away from translations.

>> No.3087220

>>3087171
>Play DW4 as a kid
>get a mental picture of what Alena looks like based on her sprite
>Play DQH:TWTWatBB
>Some crazy chick suddenly jump kicks her way into the stage with a stupid hat and wonky russian accent
>it's apparently Alena

Am I the only one who thought she was a chick in a fur coat and beret?

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>>3087171

Totally true. But even with that shitty hat, she's cute.

>> No.3087428

>>3087220
>a fur coat and beret
Totally.

>> No.3087470

>>3087035
>didn't ever use Taloon in your party
I did sometimes (just cause he's awesome), and I swear I've seen a few of those effects. IIRC he could do some of that stuff you just used the attack command, he might do something else a-la Goof-off in 3. I also liked when a monster encounter would become a friendly merchant, that was always a pleasant surprise.

>> No.3087543

>>3085665
I got bored of VII if I'm to be perfectly honest.

>> No.3087551

I've beaten I, III, IV, V and VII

>> No.3087554

>>3087551
Sorry, I meant VIII (not VII)

>> No.3087656

>>3086595
>Atari Dragon Quest

Make it happen, senpai.

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>> No.3088589

What improves/changes between DQM and Cobi's/Tara's Adventure?

>>3087171
>>3087341
I like her hat a lot actually.

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Guys, are you excited abaout Switzerland's Dragon Quest Convention?
Is the beggining of something great for western DQ fans? (Or only for yuropoors?)

http://www.swissgamerszone.ch/dqc2016/

> taking place May 28th and 29th
> in honor of the Dragon Quest 30th anniversary convention
> being held in Biel, in the heart of Switzerland
> setting up at the Swiss Gamers Zone at 23 rue de Zürich
> collaboration with Square Enix and Nintendo Switzerland

>Games area:
> Demo of Dragon Quest VII will be available on Nintendo 3DS
> Dragon Quest Heroes 2 playable for the first time in Europe on PS4
> Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 3 playable on Nintendo 3DS
> Dragon Quest Builders playable on PS4
> 3DS Street Pass and exchange dens card for Dragon Quest IX

>Scene Area:
> Cosplay Contest Saturday
> Award ceremony of the biggest collector Dragon Quest 2016

> Conference:
>- Dragon Quest History
>- The world of saga

>Independent area:
> Agooloo Studio will present Soccer Dash (expected from the current year)
>Studio Freelance an old DQ Fanien

>Shop area
>Shop
>Exhibition Emblem of Roto / Sketch of the saga

>Tournaments sector:
>Dragon Quest Builders (construction speed contest)
>Dragon Quest Heroes I (defeat the boss in no time)

>> No.3089084

>>3086970
>My fear with DQ, is if VII and VIII are "story is first priority, NOT gameplay!" like post-VI FF.
I have no idea why you're saying post-VI when VI is the first game that had that attitude to the degree where it harmed gameplay. Even IV had a pretty charitable gameplay/story split, but not VI, that game is broken as fuck.

>> No.3089090

>>3088983
This sounds super cool, I can't fly to Switzerland just for a DQ con tho.

DRAGON QUEST CON IN THE USA WHENNN

>> No.3089125

>>3089084
Maybe all is about personal taste. I played FF VI, and of course is too much "play sometimes, while we tell our story". I can understand anyone who considers that game "the beginning of the end".

But when I played FF VII, even with the great improvements in some mechanics and more great things that has... I felt it was too "look at this movie".

>> No.3089129

>>3089125
FFVII clearly has more story focus but the attitude VII had towards gameplay was already established by VI. It's like the developers didn't even care.

>> No.3090043

>>3088983
Sounds interesting.

> Cosplay Contest Saturday
I want pictures.

>> No.3090047 [DELETED] 

>>3088983
shit I thought it said sweden for a while

>> No.3090052

>>3088983
Is it going to be in French?

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>>3088983
Interesting, does Dragon Quest have a large following in Switzerland.

>> No.3092196

>>3090052

That webpage is in french, so I guess yes.

>> No.3092229

I just played the Android versions of 1&2 during my downtime at work and I'm about to move on to 3. Are there any important differences between the Android versions of these games and the originals?

>> No.3092393

>>3092229
One of the big additions in the SFC port/remake of 3 was the that the enemy attacks are animated. The GBC version kept that, but the phone versions dropped it, so the enemies are static.

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>You are the brave hero, descendant of the other brave hero!
>Start off at lvl 1 with a pointy stick

>> No.3093151

>>3092401
You have to buy the pointy stick anon, don't act so privledged.

>> No.3093294

>>3093151
Not in DQV.

>> No.3093304

>>3093294
DQ5 hero was a spoiled brat, then. As to be expected from royalty. That slave life did him some good.

>> No.3093432

I have a question for you guys: in Dragon Quest VII, does the game allow you to save before changing the disc, like the FF on the PSX?

>> No.3093508

>>3087194
>I'm learning Japanese ...
Kill yourself, my man!

>> No.3094408

>>3093304
Except he didn't know he was royalty. Henry on the other hand... the slave life did him some good.

>> No.3094550

>>3085606
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0jJ2u2rk3k&feature=youtu.be
Will always be my favorite overworld theme ever made. Always makes me pumped listening to it.

I just can't wait to replay DQ7 and 8 when we finally get the 3DS versions.
>>3086954
Personally I like the NES of DQ4 over DS and mobile but I can't read moon so the PSX is out. Sad because DQ4 is one of my favorite DQ game but I just can't enjoy the DS because of the localization and I'm just not a mobile gamer.

>> No.3094551

>>3093432
Yes.

>> No.3094561

>>3086970
>I guess the NES version is much more painful, but I wanted to try a similar experience.
Actually the NES wasn't that bad. The only time its annoying is when Kiryl cast instant death spells against bosses. But once I knew a boss was coming I switch to normal controls using the code. Afterwards I would switch back because like >>3087035 said the AI can actually save your life since they issue their command on their turn and not at the beginning of the round like you would do.

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OP casts Healmore on thread!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdbfuDV0Ejc

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>>3097603
Have some art.

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>>3097643
You too!

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Help I can't beat Shinryuu in 15 turns

>> No.3098349

>>3097643
I think Flora should have had some interaction with the hero while they were children too.

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Can anyone explain to me why this guy is so popular?
I found his part in DQIV the most boring, yet, he has his own spinoff with multiple sequels, plus he's a fan favorite for crossover stuff.

What's the appeal?

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>>3098364
I believe the unexpected concept of playing as a actual merchant with a family was charming. Also he is quite amusing in battle with his goofy actions. He's pretty popular and one of Japan's favorite characters in the series.

>> No.3098408

>>3098395
Essentially this. He's such an unconventional character - for an RPG or any other genre, especially at its time. He's not a warrior, or a mage, or some sort of royalty. He's just a guy, and jolly fat one at that. He's introduced to us getting up to work at a dreary 9-to-5 job. We instantly relate to that, and thus to him, and anyone with a soul would want to see such a character fulfil his dreams. And fulfil them he did, while also becoming a hero along the way.

>> No.3098418

>>3097603
Healmore? You need to cast Omniheal to get this thread on its feet again!

>>3098364
It's the absurdity factor: rpgs take themselves far too seriously, so Torneko is a breath of fresh air. Plus, he's the party thief and can nab you top gear very quickly.


Random trivia: the Megaton Hammer crits 1/8th of the time, the Hela hHammer 3/8ths, and normal crits come 1/64 in all titles. Getting enough skill points in 8 to give you that boost doubles it to 1/32.

The Poison Needle, Assassin's Dagger, and Demon Spear instant kill 1/8 of the time, except for all versions of III where it's 1/16 for some reason. For that matter, nearly all weapon effects will hit for 1/8th, with the only one I know of that doesn't is the Dream Blade and Hell Scythe which hit for 1/6th. All of these effects ignore resistances except for full immunity, with the exception of the instant death weapons and bosses.

What else...oh, the Imp Knife and Magical Mace work 25% of the time, so abuse the hell out of them!

>> No.3098421

>>3098364
>What's the appeal?

Being the best fucking support character ever.

>> No.3098658

>>3098418
What's the chance of a Prayer Ring breaking on use?

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>>3097883

>> No.3098834

>>3098658
50% it either breaks or it doesn't break.

>> No.3098842

It's sad that DQ games after DQII pose no challenge.

What were they thinking then they made infinitely usuable items and skills that cast some of the best healing spells for free?

>> No.3098857

>>3098842
Been playing through DQV and I've not experienced anything like that yet. Items are one time use only and spells cost MP.

>> No.3098864

>>3098857
There is a staff that casts Healmore and the Sage's Stone that casts Healus.

>> No.3098868

Best version of each game to play? Don't let your retarded retro nostalgia cloud your judgement.

>> No.3098869

>>3098868
The orignials

>> No.3098870

>>3098869
Did you not read the last part my man?

>> No.3098871

>>3098868
SFC wherever applicable.

>> No.3098881

>>3098868
You can play the Super Famicom versions of DQ1 and 2 as they were bundled together. Start there. DQ1 for the NES is for real men.

>> No.3098964

>>3098658
>>3098834
Usually 1/3rd.

>> No.3098967

>>3098864
You mean Midheal and Multiheal grandpa.

>>3098869
Nostalgia is nice but the original versions blow for every game aside from 8, especially when the localizations are so devoid of personality.

>> No.3098972

>>3098881
>DQ1 for the NES is for real men.
I don't understand this elitism for Dragon Warrior.
It's not even the original version and the game is just pure grinding.

>> No.3098996

>>3098972
Not that guy but I have an idea or two.

I like the remakes where EXP and Gold rates are doubled, but the NES version makes it feel a lot more huge and obviously you have to level up a lot more. I feel like the SFC/GBC may have trivialized the first game just a little bit by making it as easy as it is.

Though I don't agree with the notion that it's for 'real men', since it doesn't take skill, just patience and looking forward to the reward of being an asskicker to beat either version of the game.

Also, I love the colors on the NES version. They just pop and look wonderful. SNES looks a little toned down by comparison.

IMO the only DQ1 that's not worth playing is the ugly mobile port, and even that's decent enough.

>> No.3099003

>>3098364
Multiple reasons. He's an actual family man with a loving family. He's just trying to go out and do good for everyone. And unlike DQ5 it's not a rollercoaster of emotions with the family. Think of how many games star a grown chubby dad with a nice family?

Also he's chapter was so different than the reason of the chapters. While everyone has a personal grudge he's just there finding loot to keep his family feed.

I mostly think the reason he got those games is that Horii just really wanted to make a roguelike and just used Dragon Quest as a way to sell it to people. And he felt a fun story with Torneko would be fun.

>> No.3099005

>>3098421
>Run into group of 6 Liquid Metal Slimes
>4 run away right off the bat
>1 more runs away after a couple wiffs
>"Taloon trips & falls onto Liquid Metal Slime!"
>critical hit; DEAD.
>massive experience reward
That'll do, pig.

>> No.3099016

>>3098842
DQ2 wasn't even meant to be hard. Horii just didn't playtest it and so level scaling was just completely fucked.
>>3098868
DQ1-3 SFC
DQ4 that really depends. NES has a great localization personally but is of that era where going through all those items can be a chore. DS is much more manageable but I honestly hate the localization. I normally not mind accents but DQ4 made everything a pain to read plus removal of Party Chat sucks. Mobile is DS with Party Chat.
DQ5 PS2 is nice but I love the DS version.
DQ6 DS
DQ7 3DS is coming soon
DQ8 Guess it depends if you are a guy that can live with 3DS style graphics or really love the PS2 version. 3DS has more content (more party members, weapons, extra story, extra dungeons, ect.) but being on the 3DS really hurts the look of it sadly.

>> No.3099030

>>3099016
>great localization
>hate the localization.
>3DS is coming soon
He asked for the best version, not which version is good enough for casuals.

>> No.3099035

>>3099030
Man it's almost like how the story is presented to the player actually fucking matters in a RPG.

>> No.3099041

>>3099035
That's why you should play them in the original language.
DQ games have easy Japanese.

>> No.3099047

>>3099030

Reminder you literally cannot game over in a dragon quest game. You just lose half your cash and keep playing. MUH CASUALS MUH HARDCORE MUHMUHMUH

>> No.3099137

>>3098972
I'm only being facetious. If I were to play DQ1 again it'd probably be the Super Famicom version.

>> No.3099171

>>3099047
You can't Game Over in Wizardry, either.

>> No.3099218

More dumbshit factoids.

It usually takes 3 Wisdom points to increase spell damage in 8, except for Boom for some reason.

The vocation traits for Gladiators and Paladins cap out at 1/8th at rank 8. Luminaries get a 1/16 rate, which is not influenced by style at all. Rangers can run away from any non boss fight at rank 8, and you guys already know how the Sage and Hero perks work.

Terry gets a 1/16 base evasion in the SFC version, Ashlynn takes 70% damage from frizz, sizz, bang, and crack damage, and Milly can't be confused or her dances sealed. Amos gets woosh resistance but wind magic sucks anyway.

You can still recruit monsters in 5 even when the hero is dead, which is why people think the daughter can as well. 5 actually had a very rough development period, leading to a falling out between Horii and Chunsoft. This is why 5 is a little weaker than other games in some areas.

>> No.3099579
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3099579

>>3099171
You can in 4 and 6 onward.

>> No.3100035

>>3099579
You must be really bad to get a Game Over in Wizardry 4. You don't even have to grind for exp in that game.

>> No.3100302

>>3099218
What does Wisdom and Luck even do in games like III and V?

>> No.3100520

>>3100302
In III, wisdom controls MP growth. I think the MP range is roughly 195% to 205% of your wisdom. In the nes version wisdom seeds ARE SHIT that lower your over all growth due to bad programming.
Luck lowers the accuracy of status spells cast by enemies, with each type having a different base accuracy. Sap and Dazzle have 90% base accuracy, and Whack has only 18%.

For V, only the first 20 points matter since monsters need that total in order to listen to you.

It's worthless beyond that.

Luck in V controls Curse accuracy, and I think at 255 it drops the accuracy down to 1/3rd.

Hope it helps.

>> No.3100678

Kinda a minority with that, but DQ6 is my fav.

Directly followed by DQ4

>> No.3100989

>>3100678
Why 6? I haven't gotten to it yet and I don't see it discussed a lot.

>> No.3101026
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3101026

Holy shit I finally started III for the first time and I can't remember the last time I had this much fun in a game. My party is
Hero-male-valiant
Fighter-female-amazon
Theif-male-agile
Cleric-female-sharp
They all are useful and it seems like a pretty good party to me. I've already fallen in love with this game.

>> No.3101123

>>3100520
Wisdom doesn't do anything for the human characters in V? Not even the daughter? What about the DS version?

>> No.3101192

>>3100989
Lots of people consider V the best in the series.
So, VI is the game that came after "the best one".

It has some great moments.

>> No.3101539

>>3100520
In V does it not allow the character to dodge harmful magic?

>> No.3101540

>>3101026
Glad you're enjoying it.

>> No.3101573
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3101573

Is the increased viewing distance in the DS ports cheating?
I feel like I can skip a lot of exploring by just rotating the view.

>> No.3101606

>>3101573
I really liked doing that, the DS games are easy though so its not a big difference, less walking means less battles and less overleveling which makes the game harder

>> No.3101612

>>3101573
Dragon Quest dungeons tend to be not all that hard anyways. Dragon Quest 8 castle part tends to be as complicated as it gets and that's easy to navigate even without a map.

At least not counting DQ2 Cave to Rhone which is on par with Phantasy Star 2 last dungeon.

>> No.3101806

>>3101573
Yeah I always thought exploration and bumping into dead ends was part of it all.

>> No.3101929

>>3101026

Yeah, its an amazing game today, but when I think about how good was this game when came out... Fuck, that must be glorious.

>> No.3101938
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3101938

Can you find peeping photos of the princess in the overseas versions?

>> No.3102831

>>3101929
You know the stories.

So good is wiped Japan's streets clear.

So good that the Hunter x Hunter guy takes months off and goes on hiatus to still play it.

So good that it's been getting porn for nearly three decades now.

>> No.3102923

>>3101938
Haven't played since the release of the DS version but I think it says "found a picture of Alena"

>> No.3104130

>>3085606
Only 8. Now I'm thinking of which one should be next

>> No.3104232

I played dragon warrior NES and i'm planning to play 2 nes version as well.

But i'm not sure about DQ3, are there any major differences between NES and SFC?

Is the official NES translation good or should i use a patch?

>> No.3104241

I feel DQ1-3 on GBC are underrated.
You still get 8-bit graphics if you prefer those but they're much better than their NES counterparts, and you get some extras not available in the SFC versions, though I never played those so I don't remember specifics.

>> No.3104251

>>3104232
DQ3 NES is 100% playable with a nice translation. SFC really just adds a new class and a bonus dungeon and a board game which is fun. If you are playing the US version of DQ1 and 2 NES might as well keep using the US version since there's a lot of references in DQ3 that you would lose out on if you not keep using the game version.

>> No.3104281

>>3104251
Ok, thanks, then, i guess the other versions/remakes are good if i want to replay the games after i finish them all.

>> No.3104284

>>3104251
>SFC really just adds a new class and a bonus dungeon and a board game which is fun
And medal collecting, new equipment, and overall a pretty big cut to the difficulty. For all I like the new content (and in a game like DQ3 more content is always welcome), I still actually prefer the NES version because of the reduced difficulty in the remake. I'm not trying to argue that "OMG if you don't waste time grinding you're not really playing the game," but the remade versions just feel like going through the motions. Having grown up on the NES version it just feels weird. The remakes are great for second+ playthroughs (the relaxed difficulty makes it easier to explore the new content and try out different party builds and whatnot), but I think to get the most appreciation of the game it's better to play the original first then the remake.

>> No.3104291

SFC/GBC also has animated enemy attacks

>> No.3104293

>>3104284
Isn't the Medal collecting just the GBC version? And I get you about difficulty. NES really shown how much they learned after DQ1 and 2 about level balancing. DQ3 really feels like it has a good feel to it. I do say taking a mage isn't that great of a decision on my part my first play through but it wasn't that bad. Just happy I didn't pick a goof off.

>> No.3104326

>>3104284
Didn't they already reduce the difficulty for the American NES release?

>> No.3104345

>>3104293
The tiny medals and the secret shop (or whatever you want to call it) where you can redeem them for hot prizes is in the SFC version as well. I think that maybe the monster medal collection might be GBC-only though?

>> No.3104352

>>3104326
Not EXP and enemy health are the same in both versions. The only thing that got changed are just normal NoA policies like crosses. Actually oddly enough Dragon Warrior 3 and 4 let you straight up gamble. When even minor things that count be looked at as gambling was taken out because of the policy.

>> No.3104385

>>3104352
I'm not sure gambling was ever part of NoA's censorship policy (or if it was it either got cut out very quickly, or was added in much later). There were several straight up casino simulators released for the NES and GameBoy.

>> No.3104442

>>3104352
I just checked and slimes and ravens give 4 and 5 XP respectively in both Famicom revisions but 5 and 7 XP in the NES one, likely even a fraction more since for instance 4 slimes give 22 XP.

>> No.3104452

>>3104352
I read the monster arena gamble value was changed from 4x hero level to 10x hero level in the NES version. (Which seems to have been incorporated into the Japanese remakes, or at least, I just played the GBC one and the gamble value is 10x hero level.)

>> No.3104781

>>3101123
>>3101539
Wisdom helps humans dodge curses in V, but that's all. I need to rewrite that article on the .org wiki so it's easier to understand.

What I want to know is how the guys at level-5, with only 2 games under their belt, convinced Horii that the series needed as many changes as 8 brought in. That's not to say I'm complaining, 8 is the very best, but it is interesting to wonder just what kind of bad situation 6 and 7 put the series in.

>> No.3104816

>>3104781
>but it is interesting to wonder just what kind of bad situation 6 and 7 put the series in.

6 was the lowest selling game of the series, but I think the only reason for that was it suffered from just not being as insanely good as 5 was.

7 had a really long development period, and the game itself was pretty ugly, even by PS1 standards. That said, at the end of the day it became the best selling DQ game of all time and in Japan the best selling PS1 game of all time.

I think ultimately the reason DQ8 came about the way it did was because Horii and the rest of the core team just really weren't sure how to bring the series into the 3D world. So they outsourced and they were willing to go smaller scale in terms of story, characters, and content to make sure they got the 3D RPG part right.

>> No.3105048

>>3104241

I think that too. For me, the main reasons to play GBC remakes besides SFC...

1- No bugs (or at least, dangerous bugs)
2- More easy to emulate
3- Even more content

But, the saddest thing, is that the tiny GBC screen, made that monster sprites are worse than the NES sprites.

One thing that I cannot understand, is why in the mobile version of DQ 1-3, they choose the NES traslation, what changed a lot some of the names (no Lotto, and things like this)

>> No.3105261

>>3104816
6 sold more than 1, 2, and 5 though. As for 7 being ugly, that game is hideous on the inside and outside. It garnered a lot of backlash despite its sales, which you can read up on at the J wiki. Its really telling when they list out all the major complaints just for one game in a series.

I think for 8, they just wanted to play it safe and get back to their roots. Level-5 was made up of serious dq fans, and that's probably where things like Wisdom boosting attack spells and agility improving your evasion came from; small touches added to keep the series fresh.

>> No.3106116

>>3104442
Aye, exp gains are higher in the NES version compared to the Jap Famicom version. I've heard the value 25% being thrown around, but quote me not.

>> No.3106150

Honestly, I hate DQ. The games are slow as fuck and the battles have absolute no strategy. Getting one shotted? The only solution is to grind more. On top of that, the devs gave no consideration to probability, especially in the earlier games. A little bad luck and you're ambushed by a group of enemies that spam AoE and wipe you before you can even act. The only solution is to reload and hope it doesn't happen again.

>> No.3106390
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3106390

Why can't Aleena use medicine from the bag?
I got extremely lucky by reaching the final battle on 2 HP and then immediately landing a critical hit.

>> No.3106407

>>3106150
Horii is a gambler. DQ has always been about gambling and not just the casino. Ambushing is just part of that gamble. And it's not just grinding if you are getting your ass kicked since buffs/debuffs have always been the key to winning even minor enemies in DQ since everything is meant to hit hard. You are not really meant to feel like you are killing everything right away.

Yeah DQ1 and 2 are notorious in level balancing but 3 onward are always wonderful in how scaling should play out. Are you the type to grind for more gear or are you the type to just go head first and hope for the best? Also why reload since you only lose half your gold which you more than likely can make back trying to get to the next town.

>> No.3106653

>>3106150
Why didn't you just ask for help with buff spells and general strat? It would have saved you a lot of typing.

>> No.3106662

>>3106390
To make it more challenging.

If anyone needs help with the coliseum fight, just remember that Alena's critical hit ratio is her level/256.

>> No.3106665

>>3106407
>Ambushing is just part of that gamble.
DQ is pretty harmless in that regard since all you can lose is a money and a bit of walking time.
In Wiz 1-3 an ambush can require sending a second party to retrieve the dead and many players opt for ragequitting before the battle results are saved instead.

>> No.3106668

>>3106665
Well Dragon Quest is a combination of Wizardry and Ultima. And in Ultima if you died you were brought back to Lord British.

>> No.3108207

Never played Dragon Quest before. I think I'm going to play 1,2, and 9. 9 looks really fun and I like gbc rpgs so I'll play those three in release order.

>> No.3108215
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3108215

Is 24 an ok level to change a cleric to a sage?

>> No.3108301

>>3108215
>change a cleric to a sage
What's the point?

>> No.3108316

>>3108301
Then they have both offensive and defensive magic.

>> No.3108331

>>3108316
Why not change to a mage?

>> No.3108332

>>3108316
Literally the only spell from the Wizard list that you will ever use lategame is Bikill. Do you not have another character to cast it already?

>> No.3108341
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3108341

>>3108332
Party is hero, warior, theif, cleric. Isn't sage super good and your advised to have at least one? Thinking of first turning my cleric into a sage at level 24 and later on my theif. Does this seem like a bad decision?

>> No.3108456

>>3108332
Oh, what a load of shit.
Firstly, why does late game matter any more than the rest of the game? Magic can be useful at several points through the game. The only alternative to match magic damage output would be multiple soldiers, which is expensive shit. Secondly, BeDragon + metal babbles. Wizard spells can be useful whether you like them or not.

>> No.3108730
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3108730

What is the system for these prices?
I'm aiming for 1800 gold for a 20% profit but occasionally they go way higher. I've never seen prices between 1900 and 2200

>> No.3108754

Do people actually enjoy DQ I or is it just nerd cred bullshit? I have a hard time imagining you could enjoy such a game these days.

>> No.3108784

>>3108754
It's not wholly engrossing and awesome like it was when I was seven but it's still enjoyable.

>> No.3108824

>>3108215
I change once I get the resurrection spell just in case. Mage type sells are very handy the last half of the game while starting half seem to be more physical attack focus.

>> No.3108831

>>3085606
I think we can mostly agree that the overture is one majestic masterpiece:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux2en4anILM

>> No.3108854

>>3108754
I played GBC remake 2 years ago, and is my favorite JRPG.

Simple, with nice (and hard) puzzles, and a masterpiece if you remember that is one of the firsts JRPGs.


>>3108831
It is.

>> No.3108898

>>3108854
>and a masterpiece if you remember that is one of the firsts JRPGs.
It may have been the second RPG on the Famicom after Hydlide Special but I don't see how that makes it any better.
The remakes made it bearable but the original version is awful.

>> No.3108938

>>3108754
I enjoy it a lot. It's very basic, but still feels like a huge adventure where you become a hero like your ancestor. And you get to fight a LOT of monsters so I like that aspect. It's just classic in every way. Against modern RPGs there's a lot better to play. Heck I even consider FF1 to be the better game over DQ1 but Dragon Quest 1 still has something special about it.

It's a great game, it's just that the sequels and every RPG afterward made some kind of improvement or change to it. You gotta remember how innovative it was for the Japanese public at large to really appreciate it imo.

>> No.3109176

>>3108754
Dragon Warrior was the first DQ game I played. I wasn't too familiar with DQ games but I started playing it and I would play it a bit at a time, I'd play a bit after work and grind a little, leveling up a bit, saving up gold for an expensive weapon, the progression was very satisfying as I felt the work I was putting into it was paying off. Beating the game and seeing the kingdom saved was a very good feeling. Dragon Warrior 1 is the only DQ game I've completed and before you say anything about nostalgia, I only completed it a couple of years ago. I enjoyed the game very much, but it'd probably be a long time before I sat down and played it again, I have too many games to play, but I'll probably play the SFC version next time.

>> No.3109362

>>3085606
does anyone know where i can save in dragon quest iii besides the king's castle?

>> No.3109410
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3109410

>>3108898

Well, in most cases, the sequels improve the old games from the franchise, so it's easy to think "the newest, the best".

But besides all the kind of things that are lost in sequels, in favor of innovations or changes, the things that make one game special when it came out, is lost forever.

In my opinion, it's not fair evaluate a game out of his time. I don't think that you must "play the original" (because the remakes takes the essence of a game, and polish the parts that aged very bad), but some of the good (and new) things of old games, can be "very common" today. So you lost that appreciation.

Some of the things that I love about sequels, are the improvements over the originals. Another good thing that you can lost if play directly a sequel.

Dragon Quest 2 is the worst DQ that I played, but it was amazing how expanded the original concept, and how inspired the evolution of JRPGs in general. So, for me, it's impossible to say "DQ 2 is shit". Even with DQ3, and how improved EVERYTHING.

>> No.3109418

>>3108854
Being one of the first JRPGs doesn't make it a masterpiece. Historically relevant, sure.

>> No.3109484

>>3108341

Is Baramos showing his middle finger?

>> No.3109741

>>3109410
>it's not fair evaluate a game out of his time.
I'm not evaluating it out of its time. I'm comparing it to games like Ultima, Wizardry, Hydlide or Xanadu that were available back then.

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3110062

Oh shit!

What do you do?

>> No.3110125

>>3108754
you have a hard time because you are a casual

>> No.3110148

>>3110062
FUUUUCK

>> No.3110394

Is Dragon Ball anything like Dragon Quest, such as in tone, plot, characters, humor, or anything else?

>> No.3110832
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3110832

>>3085685

>> No.3110834

>>3088983
>nothing about Dragon Quest XI
pass

>> No.3110845

>>3110394
they have the same artist.
that's it.

>> No.3110850

>>3110394
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJUeqKpReOk

>> No.3110891

>>3110062

Aside from flipping the image 180 deg,
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK

>> No.3110934
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>>3110062
FUCK

>> No.3111076
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3111076

I have a lot of respect and love to the DQ series now. About a year ago I beat BD and I felt so frustrated that RPG genre wasn't fun to me anymore but some anon in /v/ recommended me to play DQ games and since I played DQ1 GBC a lot when I was kid, I decided to give the series a chance...I'm so fucking grateful with that anon right now

btw I'm uploading Dragon Quest soundtracks that weren't on Youtube in my channel. Now I'm trying to complete Theatrhythm Dragon Quest OST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiFLCjv07b0&list=PLRo_-i-WR81a3RgUci1S_zyoEOS6H5TCi&index=1

>>3108754
Honestly I can't answer that since I have nostalgia with DQ1 but I guess that is a decent game

>>3088983
Wait...Is Dragon Quest popular in Switzerland?
Also
>collaboration with Square Enix and Nintendo Switzerland
>Dragon Quest Heroes and Builders are playable there

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3111172

>>3110062
I rotated it, think of this a bump.

>> No.3111185

>>3111172
Why do I even try?

>> No.3111252

I'm about to play DQ from the beginning. Should I play the NES version? SNES version? Gameboy version?

I've always owned the Gameboy I+II comp, just never played it. I recently came into possession of DQ I-IV on the NES. I was wondering I could emulate the SNES remakes? What do you all think for a first time DQ player?

>> No.3111295

>>3111252
There's not too much of a difference between the GB/C and SNES versions of I+II and III. The GB versions have a faster movement speed, and III has Monster Medals and a(n additional) bonus dungeon, while the SNES versions look prettier.

>> No.3111301

>>3111295
So this being my first time, what would you recommend? Going through the series in their natural console release order or go through the remakes?

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>>3111301
Not him, I recomend the snes versions. I didn't care about the monster metals and found just playing the prettier versions were better for me. Hope you love them anon, if I isn't for you maybe try another as I can be a bit rough.

Expect to hate these guys.

>> No.3111310

>>3111304
I played I and III on Gameboy back in middle school, but I didn't get very far, so I'm familiar with those versions. I feel like I want to play the originals as they were intended, but the SNES versions look very easy on the eyes. I love SNES-era JRPG graphics.

>> No.3111312

>>3111301
Depends on if you want a challenge or a slightly easier time. The original releases are obviously harder than the SNES versions, which is still harder than the GB/C versions. The difficulty was tweaked each time.

Most people will recommend the SNES versions. Hardcore purists will recommend the NES versions. I personally don't recommend any version, and just put up the major differences and let people decide for themselves. I realize that's not very helpful for you, but that's how I work.

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>>3108207
Really, I'd play 3 over 9.
9 Feels kind of like a modern 3 but it feels....much more tedious than 3.
It's hard to explain.

>> No.3111364

>>3111312
>Hardcore purists will recommend the NES versions.
If you play the NES port instead of the original Famicom version you are hardly a hardcore purist.
Playing the SFC remake without translation is purer than that.

>> No.3111374

>>3111364
Come on now. Don't be like that.
Don't be that guy. No one likes that guy.

>> No.3111425

>>3111374
The NES port contains various changes to the original in both gameplay and plot. Only a retard would think he's purist for playing that.

>> No.3111430

>>3111425
Congratulations, you're that guy.
I hope you're happy with yourself.

>> No.3111436

>>3111430
At least I'm not a poser.

>> No.3111824

>>3110394
>characters
Yeah, a bit. Or a lot if you just look at the artwork.
>humor
Yeah lots of similar humour.
Outside of those two points not too much similarity.

>> No.3111826

>>3111252
>Should I play the NES version?
Yep. If you're a man.

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>>3111301

My recomendation is that play one of the remakes. What version?
My preference is GBC, but you can't get wrong with SNES version.

SNES:
+ Looks much MUCH better
? Fan translation (I don't know if its a bad or a good one)
- DQ2 has a save-killer bug. You must use Savestates

GBC:
+ Official good traslation (or at least, more similar to the japanese version than the NES version)
+ Easier to emulate (if you are using Homebrew on the 3DS, the SNES emulator runs well, but not as good as GameYob)
? DQ3 has more content (only good, if you LOVE that game)
- A bit ugly, and the size of the screens, makes the enemy sprites less "Toriyama Style" than the original NES game

>> No.3112036
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>>3111172
Here

>> No.3112037

>>3111076
>Dragon Quest Heroes and Builders are playable there
>Builders
C...could that mean we are actually getting it?
>>3112036
Wow what is happening?

>> No.3112039

>Boot up DQ1 on the NES
>NES console still hates me

Guess I'll just stick with my GBC and DS remakes.

>> No.3112075

>>3110062
>>3111185
>>3112036
>>3112037
kek

>> No.3112098

>>3111357
Because of the VIII-like skill tree system. I had the same problem with Joker vs. DQM 1 and 2. Joker 2 was a fun ride while I played it, but it left me wanting the original breeding and skill system, limits and all.
III has a simple, clean class system. Even the ones in VI and VII were better, but those aren't "make your party, go on adventure" games like III and IX.
Then again, III is one of my favorite games ever, so the simplicity and age don't bother me in the slightest.

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>>3110832
>Metal Slime
Awesome, thanks!

>> No.3112373

>>3112039
I just tried up my DQ1 since I'm playing through it for the first time >>3111301 and it keeps fucking freezing on the NES. I got to Level 8 and as soon as I got the flute it fucking froze. Fuck.

>> No.3112497

Why do you we have two of the literally exact same thread up? >>3107042

>> No.3112510

>>3112497
This thread is older. Why don't you complain to the op of that thread?

>> No.3112641

>>3111824
I guess that's enough to make me want to read one of the most famous manga ever.

>> No.3113869

So who is the thread's favorite monster, best girl, and final boss?

>> No.3114268

Do DQ games require a lot of grinding?

>> No.3114287

>>3114268
The original versions of the first two games do.

>> No.3114292

>>3114268
My experience is that it depends on how well you progress. If you backtrack a lot you will get enough on the way but if you have smooth sailing you'll end up facing a boss that's impossible to defeat with your available resources.
The first two games in their 80s versions were grinding hell.

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>>3113869

>> No.3114442

>>3113869
>Monster
Dracky don't know why but i always love seeing those guys
>Girl
Alena because nothing can stop the hulk. As for guy Yangus
>Boss
After all that shit that happened to you in V nothing felt better than to kick Nimzo ass. Just fucking wish the localizers didn't fuck with the way he speaks.
>>3114268
Depends on if you take your time and explore things. I found the best way to get around grinding is to explore a dungeon until you get near the end. Then cast Evac and teleport back to town to rest. Return to the cave and just to straight to the end. Not only will you be refreshed from resting but most likely will gain one more level getting to the end.

>> No.3114773

I keep putting off my solo run of III SNES

>> No.3116156

>>3114773
Why?

>> No.3116210
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So... I just ran through DQ I for SNES the last few hours and I realized a fatal, fatal, fatal flaw in this version (actually I don't know if it is present in other versions). Once you hit level 30 (max), the King will no longer record your deeds in the Imperial Scrolls of Honor! YOU CAN'T SAVE! What the fuck?

>> No.3116225

>>3116210
But you are strong enough to complete the game as soon as you learn the Healmore spell.

>> No.3116273

>>3116210
Wasn't that a bug with the translation patch?
I can't remember. I know it's not perfect, though.

>> No.3116315

>>3116273
If it is, it's a shit bug! My last non-savestate save was at Level 14 :(

>> No.3116365

>>3116225
I think what his majesty is implying is that he no longer needs to inform you how many experience points are required to gain a level.

>> No.3116435

>>3116210
Why would you need to save now? The game's pretty much over. Overlevelled as you are you could beat the game in no time.

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>>3116210
>>3116273
>>3116435
Yes, I have no life. Just did this over the last 2 hours or so. Doesn't affect this version. I have a NES savestate too, I just don't remember what level I'm on, will be bringing you that shortly.

>> No.3116548

>>3116545
Oh, yeah, I'm trying to see what happens if you finish the game without rescuing the princess, if you haven't noticed. Had no problem finding the Seal without Gwaelin's/Princess's Love.

>> No.3116549

>>3116315
>savestate
Well there's your problem.
Also it's not a bug when it's intended.

>> No.3116553

>>3116549
Save state what? What is my problem? Apparently it is a bug. You sound retarded.

>> No.3116559

>>3116548
The game has no problem with it. The King doesn't even mention her.

>> No.3116560

>>3116549
I guess you're the
>people who emulate
guy.

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>>3116210
>>3116545
Official: SNES remix (translation?) is bugged. Also, all the crybaby fucks that whine about DQ and NES RPGs in general, I 100%'ed it three times in one day and had fun (and got paid :P) doing it. Myths busted!

>> No.3116587

>>3116559
Just tried an alternate path, scooped up the princess on the way back to the castle after killing the Dragonlord... You don't even have to fight the green dragon, lol. The king has the soldiers bring her upstairs, and then she comes right back down as the ending plays as usual.

>> No.3116951

>>3116548
From what I've heard there's actually 3 "ending"
One where you leave the princess alone
One where you save the princess and brought her to the king before fighting the Dragon Lord
And last one is where you save the princess and beat the Dragon Lord with her by your side.

One really a line or two difference but neat they added it.

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Would you a dragon lord?

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>>3117680

>> No.3117910

>>3117685
Fuck the kingdom and fuck the princess, I'd become her loyal servant.

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>>3113869
>monster
Probably slime knight or golems.
>girl
Really love sofia's design, not really a waifufag.
>boss
Maybe Psaro the Manslayer in IV, I remember it taking a few tries so it felt more satisfying to beat him.

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>>3113869
>monster
As far as cannon-fodder goes, I like the Roboster/Killing Machines. As far as DQM-use monsters go, Divinegon/Xenlon.
>best girl
Female Sage or Lady Erdrick
>final boss
I've always loved Zoma, though Orgodemir, Malroth, and Dragonlord all have some qualities to them that I enjoyed.

>> No.3121954

>>3111436
No, you're just autistic. If you really judge people's merits based on whether they play an nes or fami version of a crusty rpg, you've got more problems than dq7's game design.

>> No.3122303

>>3087035
Who is Taloon? Another of those arbitrary name changes or some super hidden character?

>> No.3122345

>>3122303
Torneko Taloon. In the NES version, Torneko was changed to Taloon. In the DS version, Taloon became his last name.
Ragnar McRyan went through a similar process. In the NES version, Ryan was changed to Ragnar, and in the DS version, McRyan became his last name.

>> No.3122497

>>3122345
>McRyan became his last name
And they gave him a Scottish dialect?
Why did they even rename the characters in the first place?

>> No.3122509

>>3122497
Ragnar's entire country became Scottish.
As for renaming characters, that was just something that was (and sometimes still is, unfortunately) done.
"Localization." Bah.

>> No.3122515 [DELETED] 

>>3122509
Quit your cuntwhining, it could always have been worse.

>Treehouse DQ where the female charas become stronk independent minorities complete with pallet swap
>all party chat is dedicated to bitching out the MC for having the gall to be born with a dick

>> No.3122517

>>3122509
Sometimes renaming characters makes sense. I mean, seriously I'd rather have "Angelo" then "Kuku-ru".

>> No.3122531

>>3122509
For me localizing would mean changing a Japanese name to something more familiar, not changing one European name to another.

>> No.3122546

>>3122517
If you can't handle foreign names, you might be a racist.

>> No.3122553

>>3122531
I can't speak for all the changes made for the DS versions, but with regards to the NES version of IV, I think "Ryan" was deemed to be a name that sounded too normal in the US, so they changed it to Richard because it sounds more like a British Knight. Torniko was probably changed for sounding too Japanese.

>> No.3122562

>>3122546
It's not a question of not being able to handle the game, it's a question linguistic differences.

Although now I can't help but imagine how different DQVIII would have been if the womanizing priest had been named "Cuckle".

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>>3122515
>>3122517
>>3122531

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OP here. First I wanna say thanks to you all for an awesome DQ thread. Maybe we'll have another general one soon.

But I at last have just finished Dragon Quest 8, I'm watching the ending right now. Holy fucking Loto what a good game. I haven't felt this accomplished and the 60+ hours I played, not a single one was wasted.

And now I get to go back and fill in the gaps with V, VI, and VII. Hell yeah, Dragon Quest. You guys and this franchise rule.

>> No.3122996

>>3122948
>But I at last have just finished Dragon Quest 8, I'm watching the ending right now.

Now do the postgame stuff and get the real ending.

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>>3122996
But it sounds really hard and I wanna play the other games too! I will keep the save file on hand, though. Maybe after 7 I'll do it!

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>>3123003
Dude, no. You NEED to do the postgame. The requirements to getting the good ending aren't that hard.

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>>3122515
>/pol/ will never stop fagging up literally every thread on 4chan

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i just beat dq5, and didn't like it as much as dq4 and dq3.
i'm guessing japan really liked seeing the main character grow up, being able to choose who to marry, and having a family party along with monster allies.

the story was alright, but my main draw to dragon quest is long dungeons and not knowing if i'm going to make it because mp restores are scarce. also the son didn't seem to be the great hero like i assumed? like he got multiheal and insulate, but he never surpassed the main character. the zenithian equip should have been better or something.

im off to dq6!

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>>3123027
I will senpai, really, I will. I'm juuust gonna play the other games first...

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>>3123032
Nice try cucklet, now either talk dq or eat shit and fuck off.

>>3123035
5 is hit or miss with a lot of people; the pacing is different, and the lack of a human cast for much of the game is a deterrent for most. It also had a rocky development cycle, so that's probably why it still has some kinks to iron out even after two remakes. Zenithian equipment (especially the helmet) being weaker than in 4ds is also another lame point. Kazap going from all enemies to a single group is also hard to get used to,

6 fixes the cast issue at the very least, and party chat is so fucking sick.

>> No.3123074

>>3123043
You're going to regret it if you don't do DQ8's postgame immediately. You really need to do it while the story is still fresh in your mind.

>> No.3123079

>>3123074
Seconded; 8's real ending is IMMENSELY satisfying and you don't want to let the emotional investment in the characters lapse before you see it.

If you're in a hurry, bring the dragonsbane with you into the bonus dungeon.

>> No.3123086

>>3123048
You /pol/tards actually are worse than SJWs now, desu.

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>>3123079
DQ8's real ending is probably my favorite of all time. "Immensely satisfying" is a good way to put it.

>> No.3123094 [DELETED] 

>>3123032
>dumb frogposters will never stop fagging up literally every thread on 4chan

>> No.3123097

DQ8 3DS has yet another new ending after the ones from the original game.

>> No.3123101 [DELETED] 

>>3123086
Reported for being an offtopic faggot who puts his flaccid political views over slaying slimes and Jessica's boobs.

>>3123092
Horii is great at getting players to invest in the world and characters, and 8 is his best work yet. Completing 8 feels more like finishing a classic novel than a video game.

>> No.3123117

>>3123097
Well yeah. You can marry someone other than Medea

>> No.3123337

Will dragon quest cure my depression?

>> No.3123773

Is the new town in IV just for Wifi or is there normal development like in III?

>> No.3123776

>>3123027
But the normal ending is so much better. There's no romance in 'thank god you're royalty so I can marry you instead of that fat fuck'

And the word 'postgame' is really stupid, the game ain't over if you're still doing new stuff.

>> No.3123781

>>3123776
They should call it "optgame" as in optional content.

>> No.3123797

>>3123773
There's normal development.

>> No.3123798

>>3123781
post story is most accurate.

>> No.3123842

>>3123776
>But the normal ending is so much better.
No. Medea always had a thing for the hero, and vice versa. Pay attention to the story/flashbacks/magic spring scenes.

>And the word 'postgame' is really stupid
So come up with something better to describe it.

>> No.3123872

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez1W2wOl2LM

Can we agree that this opening is just amazing?

>> No.3123940

>>3123035
Personally the moment I had my full family and got my kids up a few levels I switched my monsters out for the kids. Yeah the kids aren't great but I never had the heart to take them out.

>> No.3123946

>>3123117
But why would you? Jessica honestly isn't that great of a character. She really only has "my brother was killed and I must take my revenge." Yangus gets more to his character personally and now with Red being a playable character I'm hoping for a bit more development for him and Red.

>> No.3123948

>>3123842
Could be he never took her to the pond outside the first time. Personally I went there all the time to get as much info as I can. Its really sweet hearing her talk about them more or less growing up together.

>> No.3124013

>>3123776
>But the normal ending is so much better.

>not finding out about Munchie
>not discovering the hero's true originals
>being a fugitive princess-napper

I don't think many people would agree that the bad ending is the better one. You also misinterpreted the good ending - she wasn't going to marry him either way, why not let her and the hero actually get married?

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>>3123948
Yeah I went to the magic spring CONSTANTLY. I like hearing what's on her mind. I wonder if there's a video on Youtube or something with all the spring scenes... I should check that out.

>>3123946
I'm not saying I would. I'm saying it's an option, and obviously that would lead to a different ending.

>> No.3124198

I ran into a wall because I couldn't progress any further without the prison key. I knew the queen in Gardenburg had it but she gave me no hint on how to get it. I tried to have different party members talk to her with no avail. I even went to the nearby dungeon but while I got some clues on a robbery I didn't get any further and repeatedly talking to the prisoners didn't help either.
In the end I ended up looking it up online and realized I missed to trigger one event.

I finally managed to get it and went back into the dungeon but I used my mob team instead of my boss team so I had to fight the monk without casting Rukani to counter his buffs. But thanks to critical hits, brute force prevailed yet again.

>> No.3124337

>>3123776
>Can't pick up on subtle romantic hints through out the game
>Never went to the spring
>>"Eew girls have cooties!"
You can't make yourself look any more dense.

>> No.3125723

Seeing as 8 is talked about frequently here, have the frequency rates for the status inflicting skills:

Helm Splitter, Sandman's Arrow, Sexy Beam, and Toxic Sword have 100% accuracy, with the rate being influenced by the monster's resistances.

Parallax, Whiplash, Angel Eyes = 1/8 Paralysis
Lashings of Love, Charming Look = 1/4 Paralysis

Heart Breaker, Blow Kiss, Extra Charm Attack = 1/8 Stun
Mind Breaker = 1/4 Stun

Needle Shot = 1/16 Death, 1 Damage on Failure
Needle Rush = 3~4 Hits of 1/16 Death, 1 Damage on Failure

Assassin's Stab = 1/8 Death
Sudden Death = 1/4 Death
Grim Reaper, Grimmer Reaper (no change in Status Hit Rate upon upgrade) = 1/2 Death

Anyone else wish they'd have given Rhapthorne better elemental resistances on top of the HP and attack boosts for the 3ds remake?

>> No.3125742

Anyone got any questions about older skills and spells I can answer?

>> No.3125920

>>3125723
Not retro.

>> No.3125925

>>3123035
Nigga talking liking DQ is hard. It's a step above Pokemon, bitch. Play SMT.

>> No.3125926

>>3125920
>Can't read
Thread's been talking about 8 since day one mate.

>> No.3126173

>>3124337
>>3124013
I saw every single scene. Running away together and saying 'fuck tradtion' is still a more romantic ending than being releaved that you don't have to break tradition.

You guys and your assumptions, good god.

>> No.3126335

>>3123872

Yes, totally amazing. An amazing opening, for an amazing game.

>> No.3126410

>>3125920
Shut the fuck up

>> No.3126617

>>3126173
Oh don't even pretend you're in the right over this, not after complaining on end for days. You fucked up and made yourself look like an autist who can't appreciate a happy ending, now deal with it.

>> No.3127147

>>3123337
it wont cure depression but it will make you feel good when you are playing it

>> No.3127158 [DELETED] 

>>3123086
>>3123032

what did he say?

>> No.3127261

>>3127158
Just a typical uncreative batch of dank /pol/ memes. Nothing notable.

>> No.3127310

>>3127261
Sorry he hurt your feelies, tubmlr-sama.

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>>3085606
>Do you have a favorite?
8

>> No.3127729

How are the DS ports? I was going to play 1-3 on NES then switch over from there.

>> No.3127738

>>3127729
Firstly, they're remakes, not ports.
Secondly, they're excellent in every way except their localizations.

>> No.3127740

>>3127738
Whatever fag boy.

>> No.3127751

>>3127740
What's wrong, hate being corrected? Are you one of those types who is always right, even when they're not? Man, I feel sorry for you.

>> No.3127789

>>3085607
>7 years old
>playing dragon quest 4
>encounter one metal slime
>"heh, this is gonna be easy"
>mfw all my attacks only do 1 damage
>mfw I have no face

>> No.3127806

>>3127751
I know it's hard, but dial the tisim back a bit. You'll find life to be much more enjoyable if you aren't so confrontational and defensive over utterly trivial matters and semantics.

>> No.3127810

>>3127806
I know it's hard, but dial the ignorance back a bit. You'll find life to be much more enjoyable if you aren't so confrontational and defensive over not knowing something.

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>>3127810
Go outside and get a girlfriend.

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>>3127962
Anon. It's okay, you can admit you were wrong. No one will judge you.

>> No.3127985

>>3127973
It's too late now. We can't go back.

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>>3127738
>>3127751
>>3127810
I'll have some fries with this salt waiter.

>>3127729
The ports are fine, just too easy. Healing spells are cheaper, growth rates are better, and in 6's case enemies give too much exp. If you don't mind that you'll love them.

>> No.3128048

>>3128032
Grow up, Anon. I corrected him, and answered his question.

>> No.3128230

>>3126617
>not after complaining on end for days.
What. That was my second post. Again with the assumptions. Sorry my opinion makes you angry, m8.

>> No.3128240

>>3127738
>they're excellent in every way except their localizations.
I'm wondering how they could be worse than the NES era localizations. What's up?

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>>3128240
Picture's worth a thousand words

>> No.3128268

>>3128254
What were they thinking? They speak standard Japanese in the Japanese version, no Kansai-ben or other dialects.

>> No.3128269

>>3128254
Oh.

>> No.3128415

Will VII get released in Europe this time?

>> No.3128429

>>3128415
Fuck Europe.

>> No.3128443

>>3128429
But I live there.
Why do the people in charge have to have a stick up their ass?

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>>3128240
1-3 NES was more fake old English accents but very much readable. There's no real line that makes you scratch your head. Hell Dragon Quest 3 only had a few towns had them like that. And as for Dragon Quest 4 they gave up on that and it's all just normal English. And it's all really good. Yeah there's some lines that are more subtle due to NoA censor rules at the time but for the most part it's pretty spot on.

DQ4 DS however made everyone speak a different accents and until around chapter 5 they are all pretty fucking heavy accents. So you will be rereading a lot of NPC dialog wondering what they were saying. And the thing with Dragon Quest the NPC are normally for giving clues on what is happening next or where to go (since they give you a pretty open world to explore with little direction outside of NPC). So you either talk to every NPC and found out what they are saying or just wonder around hoping to get to a place you haven't been.

Dragon Quest 5 is much better. Some people dislike Bianca's hick accent but I found it fine. But the one thing that really fucking sucks about Dragon Quest 5 is that it builds up to the big boss and some how they decided out of nowhere to make him talk like this.

>> No.3128690

>>3128671
>So you are ??? here at last, legendary hero and all who accompanies with you.

God damn I cannot tell that ??? word for the life of me.

>> No.3128695

>>3128690
Reaching?

I mean you have full control over when the next line goes next but getting ready for the final boss all pumped and then having to read that really takes all enjoyment you get out of you.

>> No.3128746

>>3128671
>since they give you a pretty open world to explore with little direction outside of NPC
Only once you get a boat.

I expect the boss in V spoke in Katakana but normally you'd translate it with CAPSLOCK instead of 1337.

>> No.3128921

>>3128254
Better than a flat localization with no personality. It's been 10 years fucker, get over yourself already.

>> No.3128926

>>3128048
>Acts like a spiteful autist, tells others to grow up
We've found the DQ equivalent of Australia-kun and he's just as oblivious.

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>>3128921
>flat localization with no personality
But the NES version had tons of personality and humor.

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I've defeated Death Pizarro on the first try.
Is there anything I should have done in chapter 5 that I can't do in chapter 6?

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>>3086472
>>3086471
>>3085713
>>3085706

>> No.3129437

>>3129104

Nope. I think, that the only things are some monsters if you want to fullfill the bestiary, but that specific monsters are Chapter 4 only, or something like that.

>>3128254
Before playing DQ4 DS some months ago, I readed tons of opinions about how shitty the accents were (especially on NeoFAG), I thought: "I'm pretty sure that all accents thing, is classic NeoFAG overreaction".

When that part started was totally like... "Fuck my life..."

>> No.3129492

>>3129437
How come nobody made a patch to remove the accents and maybe re-add the party chat?
Is the DQ fandom so minor?

>> No.3129571

>>3128671
the phone port of dq5 gives him the normal font

>> No.3129714

>>3085665
Honestly dude, after 3 I feel like it went downhill. The stories became more linear and I felt like everything was paced so I wouldn't have to grind really at all.

The first 3 were very fun and I'll always have fond memories of them, the rest were also fun, but brought no memorable magic to the table.

On a side note, does anyone remember which one you play with your children in? Was that 7?

>> No.3129748

>>3128268
On the plus side, it gets better for each additional DS remake. The accents are less and less thick, but still there. And the puns. Dear lord the puns. Those never go away.
And then the smartphone remakes of 1, 2, and 3 go full retard with ye olde english again.

>> No.3129751

>>3129714
That was V.

>> No.3129771
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>>3129714
You didn't like IV? Shit that my favorite with III, I understand what you mean though. I think as time went on there was more story added and less differences between the games. While final fantasy became a different game series with each installment dragon quest stayed the the same, whether or not thats a good thing is up to you.

>> No.3129862
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3129862

I fuckin love Dragon Quest

>> No.3129916

>>3129862
Why?

>> No.3129928

>>3129916
Do I need a reason?

>> No.3129936

>>3129928
I just wanted to know why you liked it bb.

>> No.3129973

>>3129492

Probably... Maybe, that patch is difficult to make.

>>3129748
In that versions, they call Loto Erdrik again, so I supose they take the original NES translation.

>> No.3129976

>>3129492
That patch would be obscenely hard to make, and the pay off would be so little it's not worth it. Best bet is to stop being a cunt and complaining about changes set into motion over a decade ago.

>> No.3129978

>>3128997
And the new versions aren't?

>> No.3129980

>>3129973
Yeah, first three games went back to the original NES translations for things back in Dragon Quest IX, with all the guest characters and equipment.
And they gave Cannock and Moonbrook the first names "Princeton" and "Princessa."

>> No.3129985

>>3129978
Depends if your preferences for personality and humor are on the level of a five year old I guess.

>> No.3130012

Smartphone 3 loses the monster attack animations that the SFC version added (and GBC kept).

>> No.3130028

>>3130012
The Smartphone version of 3 is a fucking enigma. It's a port of the SFC version, but they still saw fit to remove all kinds of stuff for no reason at all, and then they added in "better" (it's all opinion, I personally don't like them) npc sprites.

>> No.3130195

>>3129978
He said the NES was flat with no personality and I was showing how he's wrong. Also DQ4DS localization really annoyed me to a point where I actually stopped and replayed the NES version and had way more fun. It really is sad how badly done DQ4 was handled because it honestly to me the best Dragon Quest game and the best place to really start. But the accents are so heavy that I can't say it's the best place to start.

>> No.3130241

>>3129985
Hold off on the salt anon, it makes you seem less embittered when someone has a different opinion. Your rebuttal is also shit and you failed to give examples of nes4 being superior or modern4 being flat, which according to you ought to be easy. You're either full of shit, which you are, or you're too fat and lazy to defend your favorite version of the game.

>> No.3130258

>>3130195
>I dislike something, therefor it's shit and everyone who likes it is a filthy casual
G'day mate, isn't it time ye puled the kerbab outta yer arsehole already Oz-kun? Crikey, ain't nobody gives a shit 'bout yer opinion 'cept yer mum, much less around 'ere.

>> No.3130274

Do dragon warriors 1 and 2 for GBC have a lot of grinding?

>> No.3130303

>>3130274
Yes, skip to 3.

>> No.3130318

>>3130303
>skip to 3
how about fuck you

>> No.3130321

>>3130274
GBC? Nah the only grinding seems to be on the Famicom/NES versions.
Well, GBC is the only version I've played but I didn't do any grinding in those.
I suppose if you follow a guide instead of exploring on your own you could end up under-leveled.

>> No.3130336

>>3130318
You'll only miss out one reference in the second overworld map. But seriously, 1 is pure grinding, it's all you do in that game. 2 is more like, you know in Final Fantasy when you can walk into parts of the map you weren't meant to be yet and you can fight over powered monsters and level up faster? There's a lot of that in DQ2 once you get the ship.

>> No.3130440
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3130440

Why is Dragon Quest so much better than Final Fantasy?

>> No.3130462

I want to re-start my DQ experience. I played 1/2 on a GB cart back in the day which introduced me to the series (I was a sega kinda guy minus the gamegear, piece of fuck) and I played bits and pieces of 4 and 7, but nothing else.

So I want to go and play through the definitive (or close to definitive) versions of each game. I'm aware there will be a lot of bias on what people consider the best but I mean from a technical standpoint. Least bugs, most fluid script (as in no breaks for awkward jokes that don't fit in, accents are fine though).

So far I have:
1/2 iOS/android, or SNES versions
3 SNES or GBC (i'll probably go for SNES just because)
4-5-6 DS, maybe 4 on SNES
VII 3DS
VIII 3DS or PS2, leaning towards PS2, I can't find a comprehensive list of actual upgrades to the 3DS version. I know it has some but all I find is shit about costumes.
IX DS obviously

Any recommendations? Should I just go through chronological order or start with one in particular?

>> No.3130484

>>3130462
You do not want the smartphone versions of any of the games except maybe 4, since it has party chat whereas the DS version doesn't. They're generally an inferior experience. 1 and 2 have terrible ye olde englishe, and graphics that try to emulate the look of Dragon Quest 6, but fail completely on account of a complete lack of scale. Not to mention the weird stretching issue.

Also, 4 is on NES, not SNES.

>> No.3130993

>>3085684
So people have a place to fuck.

>> No.3131005

>>3085684
Because the place probably wasn't always secret.
But that brings the question of why the place would still be run as an inn after they purposefully vanished from the map.

>> No.3131085

>>3130336
DQ1 was great.

>> No.3131183

>>3130462
I wonder what makes people Sega fans? Some form of autism?

>> No.3131185

>>3130462
Definitely go with PS2 on VIII. Putting it on a tiny screen would be a shame.

>> No.3131208

>>3131185
What about emulating the 3DS version in higher resolutions?

>> No.3131210

>>3130462
The 3DS version of 8 hasn't come out in North America yet, just so you know.

>> No.3131292

>>3131208
Still won't be as nice as the PS2. Also the PS2 emulation has issues with shadows which actually is a problem in a boss fight.

3DS of DQ8 has
>More party members
>More enemies
>More gear (with more gear to change how the character looks in batter not many but more than PS2)
>Added ending
>Extra dungeon
>Picture taking
>Enemies on the world map and not random encounters (some like it some don't)

PS2 of DQ8 if you really hate the idea of a beautiful looking game on the 3DS. But if you just care about gameplay and think the 3DS looks good enough go for that.

>> No.3131503

>>3131292

On the other hand:

>Crappier graphics
>Crappier sound
>Easier gameplay
and curiously
>Less metal slime encounters

Now I'm saying 3DS is bad, but it is less of a grind in a lot of the wrong ways. It's definitely a more casual approach to an already fairly casual game, so if that floats your boat, have at it.

>> No.3131512

>>3131503
*not saying

>> No.3131729

>>3131503
3DS looks better than PS2 blurry bullshit.

>> No.3131908

>>3131729
You're mistaken. N64 was blurry.

>> No.3131969

>>3129437
Does filling the bestiary do anything or is it just OC-disorder?

Are there any tricks to finding more mini medals and the like aside from painstakingly casting the detection spell in every room you enter or using a guide? I always seem to miss quite a few things.

>> No.3132115

>>3130484
>Dqfans cuntwhine about plus alpha and praise nes scripts
>cuntwhine again when old english comes back
/thread.

>> No.3132223

Going purely by design/looks,

which DQ had your favorite final boss? Spinoff games included.

>> No.3132229

>>3132223
I hate final bosses. The original because it's just a dragon, no bullshit.

>> No.3132231

>>3132229
>I hate final bosses

You and I are enemies now.

>> No.3132236

>>3132231
Pfft, this isn't even my final form... kid.

>> No.3132258

>>3132236
I will gather a party of generic and come for you after a long adventure of sidequests all around the world that allow me to grow stronger and gather powerful equipment.

Better watch out.

>> No.3132536

>>3132258
What happens if the hero's party dies while fighting a game's final boss? They already had the best unique equipment from the whole world, there's no way another party would get as far as them again with just garbage from shops.

>> No.3132542

>>3132536
You teleport back to inn and wake up as if it were all just a dream.

>> No.3132565
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3132565

Anyone else feel that IV deserves a remake? Every English release has had some kind of flaw, we need a true version with updated graphics, a proper retranslation, and party chat.

>> No.3132583

>>3132565
But it's already had a remake.
Then again, some games in the series have been remade twice already.

>> No.3132592

>>3132536
The timeline gets a third "Hero is defeated" branch.

>> No.3132752

>>3132583
IV is one that had two remakes. One of them is jap only though.

>> No.3132764

i was playing IX and i love that game but im having trouble not getting bored and im just at the very end

>> No.3132770

>>3132752
The DS version is a port of the PSX version.

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>>3132592

>> No.3133051

>>3132592
That's kind of like Builders. Except for beating the boss it's joining him.

>> No.3133060

>>3132565
Why would it need a remake when the problem are the English releases?
Your best option is to learn Japanese, then you don't have to worry about this stuff again additionally to the other benefits that come with it.
How are the European translations for the DS?

>> No.3133065

>>3130440
Because every Dragon Quest wants to be a great RPG.

Final Fantasy started trying to be "a better RPG than DQ", and later changed to try to be "a better dramatic movie"

>> No.3134323

Is there any place I can get Dragon Warrior I & II for the GBC cheaper than $25, like holy shit ebay and amazon are too expensive

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3134376

>>3134323
>English-version prices
I'm glad I learned Japanese in the 90s.

>> No.3134520

>>3134376
How do you deal with kana only games?

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3134623

>>3134520
Very carefully.

>> No.3135250

>>3134376
>90s
Everyone knows you can't learn Japanese without Anki you lying bitch.

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3135404

>>3122948
>>3123003
>>3123043

Hey. Fuckface.

Did you decide to finish the DQ8 postgame or did you move on to something else?

PLEASE tell me you did the postgame and got the best ending.

>> No.3135481

What'll happen if I hook up a PS2 to my HD television set to play DQVIII? I'm not going to go find a CRT.

>> No.3135897

>>3135481
Well since it's a turn based RPG any lag won't really be noticed. And there is an option to be 16:9.

>> No.3135907

Welp, just confirmed my AV modded famicom to be working, so I'm playing the very first on it.

Man, this is slightly more tedious than the GBC version. To think I have to press a special button just to go down a flight of stairs.

But still, spell names are the best.

>Hurt

>> No.3135916
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>>3135907
In the Japanese version you actually had to use a menu to point to where you are talking to. NES version is actually a pretty nice update to the Japanese version. And from what Horii said Iwata helped with some of the program for the NES version.

>> No.3136571

>>3135404
>Fuckface
:-/

I watched it on YouTube, lol. Hero's origin and extra ending. It was pretty cool.

>> No.3136953

>>3135916
Yeah, Nintendo was responsible for all the changes in the NA version of the game, and Iwata was part of that team.

>> No.3136976

>>3135916
Didn't they release that version in Japan as well?
A lot of the changes had already happened in the Japanese released of DQ2 and 3 which came out before the US release. It's odd they didn't remove the stairs command.

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3137793

>>3136571
>I watched it on YouTube

YOU DIDN'T EARN IT

I HOPE YOUR UNDESERVEDNESS HAUNTS YOU FOREVER

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3137889

>>3137793
Chill out, it's just a video game.

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3138231

>>3098364

>> No.3138879

>>3138231
Nice.

More DQ comics, like this?

>> No.3140032

Just beat Dragon Warrior 1 for the first time.

On to 2, or Play 3 before that?

>> No.3140137

>>3140032
2

>> No.3140509
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>> No.3140521

>>3140509
>Those bikini sprites
hot

>> No.3140570

>>3140509
>fursuit
fucking furries have to ruin everything, don't they?

>> No.3140602
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3140602

>>3140521
Has anyone run a Bikini Warriors party?

>> No.3140685

>>3140570
And it's actually a decent armor.

>> No.3141084

When the fuck is XI coming out.

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>> No.3141335

>>3141157
>RetroArch

>> No.3143180

>>3141084
It's coming out in Not Retro.

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3143326

I've played III, IV, and V, what should I play next?

VII seems really interesting but I'm scared I won't actually like and feel hesitant to buy a copy when it comes out, thoughts?

>> No.3144410

>>3143326

Well, you can allways...

1- Try to play DQ VII on a PSX emulator (remember that the beginning on the remake, was changed)
2- Don't worry about the game, and buy it to give some western support
3- Wait, and read reviews, watch some gameplay, etc


And about your next DQ game... The logic answer can be "play DQ VI", but... How about playing the first one? (SNES o GBC in my opinion)

>> No.3145102

>>3141157
>ANY ED

what does it mean

>>3143326
VI.

>> No.3145136

>>3143326
Either DQ1 or DQ8.

Skip VI and VII, they're a bit too bloated and boring for their own good.

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>>3145136
>skipping games

>> No.3145143

>>3145141
It's not like they're linked by story or anything, so...

>> No.3145250

>>3145136
While 6 is bland compare with 3-5 it's still a nice JRPG. And DQ7 is fucking amazing. The only real annoying part is the start which takes forever and the dungeon before the classes. Both of which I've heard has been fixed in the 3DS version.

>> No.3145609

I'm halfway through DQ1 and this has been a grindfest. Are all the games this bad?

>> No.3145625

>>3145609
Not even close. The first game is the grindiest in the series.

>> No.3145628

>>3145609
grinding is all you do in dq1, give 3 a try

>> No.3145635
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>>3145609
No, honestly I remember the first two having much more grinding. At III the grinding is not as bad. Honestly if you hate it don't force yourself.

>> No.3145682

If you don't like grinding, definitely play the remake version (SFC/GBC/phone) instead.

>> No.3145689

>>3145609
>>3145625
>>3145628
>>3145635
>>3145682

Am I the only DQ fan that just throws on some tunes and grinds instead of oh I don't know, checking social media or anything time wasting like that?

Grinding just never bothered me.

>> No.3145692

>>3145689
They're the kind of people who think grinding is a sign of bad game design.

>> No.3145705

>>3145692

Oh. Well then they don't know whats up.

>> No.3145715

>>3145689

I honestly never found the grinding in these games to be particularly bad. I generally end up having enough money and experience just by exploring the world.

Granted, my experience with them is only with remakes and ports that lowered the grind, so maybe my opinion is skewed.

>> No.3145716

>>3145692
Never said that, I just feel if he wasn't enjoying the game he shouldn't force himself through an unenjoyable experience. I'm fine with grinding, you need to expect that with these games.

>> No.3145737

>>3145689
I've been playing my way through the series recently (I'm about half way through V) and I usually sit at my desk and have some YouTube videos on in the background. I'm thinking about getting an Audible account so I can work through my backlog of books at the same time.

>> No.3146458
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3146458

I've defeated the evil priest and completed IV for good.
I think you get the boat too late and the initial chapters could have been more interwoven. The epilogue was a bit lacking since you could only talk to the inhabitants of the heaven castle about your triumph

>> No.3146473

>>3145609
DQ1 is 90% grinding with fun dungeon exploring and item finding.

DQ2 is grinding because Horii and others rushed it out without properly balancing the game. So you get each teammate at level 1 and even a puff can kill them. And when you finally get a boat the enemies everywhere are just annoyingly hard and weapons cost an arm and a leg.

Luckily DQ3 onward fixed all that and you never really have to grind. Or at least the grinding is less of a pain.

>> No.3146482

>>3145692
Grinding is alright personally when you are doing multiple things. DQ1 you are just hitting attack over and over again. It really does get tiresome even if the enemy design looks great.

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So is the DS version of 6 actually the inferior version? It removes monster recruitment apparently.

I can't judge as I've yet to play it.

>> No.3146542 [DELETED] 

>>3146495
>It removes monster recruitment apparently.

what WHY?!

>> No.3146563

>>3141157
What shader is that? It's subtle but I like it.

>> No.3146567 [DELETED] 

>>3146542

becuz whereber Squeenix goes id musd alwayz rabe. :-D

t. spurdo

>> No.3146856

>>3146458
Shit, I keep forgetting how nice DS games can look when not played on that tiny screen.

>> No.3146935

>>3146458
Should I play DQIV on the DS or NES?

>> No.3146952

>>3146935
Play both for a spin to see which style suits you more. Otherwise this topic has been addressed several times in this thread alone.

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>>3146856
They can, but it's also very taxing on the CPU.
I have a new i5 and still had to accept frameskips and refrain from anti aliasing.

DeSmuME X432R has hardware acceleration but it only works on some parts of the game so you'd had to constantly switch between multiple setups if you wanted to use that.

>> No.3147373

>>3146983
connect the dots!

>> No.3147518

For Dragon Quest 2, is the GBC version good? I was planning on playing 1 on GBC, but for some reason the port of DQ2 doesn't have battle backgrounds, which really bugs me.

If not GBC, which version should I go for?

>> No.3147527

>>3147518
Nevermind, just looked at some comparison screens and the SFC version looks way fucking better. I'll play that instead.

>> No.3147545

>>3147527
Keep in mind that the GBC version is further tweaked from the SFC version to require less grinding, and no removes the door command.

Also, they're not ports. The GBC version is a remake of the SFC version which is a remake of the original.

>> No.3147550

>>3147545
SFC visually is so much cleaner though, so I think I'll take a halfway between NES and GBC grinding in favour of that.