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3210519 No.3210519 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe]

It's that time motherfuckers. DQ up to VII to be discussed.

Best Game?

Best Protag?

Best Waifu?

Best Boss?

Best recruitable monster in V and VI?

I'm actually towards the end of DQV on the SNES right now myself, about to enter the Demon World. I should probably do some grinding because Bianca is underlevelled and underequipped, plus there are some more monsters I'm looking to recruit.

>> No.3210523
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>>3210519
>he still plays jarpigs

>> No.3210525
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>>3210519
>Best recruitable monster in V and VI?
The answer to both is slime knight.

>> No.3210548

>>3210519
>Best Game
Tie between V and II. V had a much more interesting story in my opinion because of how you follow this character from youth to old age. A lot of little things in that game really captured me for some odd reason. As for II I think it had the best challenge. I also really liked the character designs for some odd reason.
>Best Protag?
V's. VI's comes at a close second though just because he has a bare semblance of personality.
>Best Boss?
I'm really not sure. I really like every final boss in the games if that counts. All their designs/fights are cool.
>Best recruitable
Honestly >>3210525
All the slime anythings in DQ were really good companions.
>Best Waifu?
I think Debora is cute and a really good character but is only in the DS version so I guess she doesn't count.
Bianca is usually who I pick though on SNES.

>> No.3210562

I always liked 3's protagonist, only because with the way I played it, he became a /ss/ pimp with all ara ara female party members.

Also I accept http://exhentai.org/g/225944/036dfb9432/ as canon.

>> No.3210589

How big are the differences between the ports of V aside from graphics, sound and translation?

>> No.3210593

>>3210589
Four party members
Deborah(DS only)
More recruitable monsters.
Some name changes

About it really.

>> No.3210594

>>3210589
V's DS port adds the best waifu.

>> No.3210649

>>3210589

The later versions of DQV add party chat, which adds a huge amount of characterization to the characters, because they react to pretty much everything: they have something to say after every NPC you talk to, every new location you enter, after every event, it's awesome.

>> No.3210669

>>3210649
Do you still have to push a button for party chat? I kept forgetting that in 4.

>> No.3210710

>>3210649
Does that happen with each of the monsters too?

>> No.3210721

>>3210525
Not in Dragon Quest VI, no sir.
The Slime Knight is a good recruitable monster because it's compatible with human equipments and has healing spells, but in Dragon Quest VI anyone can learn healing spells, plus Lizzie is also compatible with human equipments, and has ridiculous stats.
Lizzie is better than all your heroes in everything, HP, MP, attack, defense, agility, wisdom, plus she already comes with one of the secret classes unlocked, she's absolutely broken.

I'd also argue that the King Cureslime is the best DQ V monster, but that's for a different reason.

>> No.3210725
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3210725

>Best Game?
3. Get a ship, get a dragon, visit the world from 1, fuck shit up day and night, reclass and grind for as long as you want.
>Best Protag?
Erdrick from 1. Went solo, killed shit.
>Best Waifu?
Kill yourself.
>Best Boss?
The final boss of 2. If you aren't almost completely tapped, you will be.
>Best recruitable monster in V and VI?
Dunno, didn't get far enough in 5, and haven't tried 6 yet.

>> No.3210735

>>3210725
we buds

>> No.3210746
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>>3210735

>> No.3210793

>>3210725
>Erdrick from 1
Nigga Erdrick was 3

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Is reclassing in 3 really necessary?

I'm right before Necrogond and even though I can beat them many monsters like the troll can oneshot my priest/wizard with its critical hit and if I got ambushed by the blizzard spamming clouds I'm basically fucked. I'm not really sure if I should grind/reclass or just push through.

SNES ver btw

>> No.3211146

>>3211105
>Is reclassing in 3 really necessary?
I played 3 for the first time on GBC recently and reclassing felt pretty optional.
If you're doing something like two melee + caster, you might as well make the caster a sage to get all the spells.

>> No.3211170

>>3211146
Yeah, currently the only thing in my mind is just making my wizard/priest a sage. I'm not sure how to reclass my soldier, maybe I shouldn't. Thanks.

>> No.3211209

>>3211105
No, in fact most players I know will only reclass one of their characters to sage.

Fighters don't earn any MP and have pathetic wisdom, mages turned into fighters have weak spells, and priests turned into fighters don't have MP enough to be reliable.
On the other hand mages and priests don't have acess to strong equipments, so if you turn a fighter into a spellcaster, they will still remain pretty weak anyway.

Turning a fighter into a fighter (martial artist/warrior) also isn't necessary, because they will already hit the stats cap without reclassing.
Also turning a mage into a priest or a priest into a mage is a waste, because the sage has acess to better equipments, so you may as well just get a sage.

tl;dr just get one or two sages

>> No.3211216

Is DQ
>real nigga shit?
I only played Final fantasy 7 and 8
And star ocean 2

>> No.3211401

>>3211216
Yeah, it's OG JRPG

>> No.3211426
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Kinda not retro but has anyone here played the 3ds version if VII? I never played VII and wanted tp hear your thoughts on it.

I really the design of the main character, every other dq protag has a cool stoic look and then you have this dorky kid with is dumb hat.

>> No.3211440

>generic tsundere is a good character

Anime is poisonous.

>> No.3211705

>>3210523
>he still shit-posts past the age of 14

>> No.3211708

>>3211440
>generic tsundere is a good character
>bad

Dude, tsundere is always win man.

>> No.3211765

>>3210519
V

V

Alena

V

Psaro/Necrosaro

Healslime

>> No.3211769

>>3210710
No

>> No.3211775

>>3211765
>that extra V

whoops

>> No.3211834

>>3211426
It's real sweet is my opinion, but I never played the PSX original. The characters are fun and the game just goes on and on, but it works well thanks to its episodic structure. You go to some new place, end up in the middle of a tragedy and do your best to resolve the situation, then later get to see how it all turned out. The writing is pretty clever making you care about each location, its residents and their stories, and if you enjoy that stuff there's just so much of it.

Serious contender for favorite RPG for me, it's at the very least within top 3.

>> No.3212103

Best girls are Debora and Alena.

>> No.3212167

Could this be the best DQ world map BGM?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idC2jzBYsp8

>> No.3212331

>>3212167
Yes.

>> No.3212646
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>TFW you finally recruit this fucker after hours of grinding

So good

>> No.3212649

>>3210721
>The Slime Knight is a good recruitable monster because it's compatible with human equipment
So is the slime knight really a monster, or is he just a midget on a slime?

>> No.3212735

>>3212649
A midget monster on a slime.

>> No.3212846

How's the android port of DQ1?

>> No.3214035

>>3210519
Sometimes I forget that they retconned the first game's hero to look like a faggot.
Then someone posts this.

>> No.3214039

>>3210589
>>3210594
remakes, anons. remakes.

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>> No.3214082

>>3212646
>once got him without trying
>look up odds later

Holy fuck

>> No.3214238

>>3214035
It's funny how only the very first hero wears heavy armor in official art. All the others wear medium or light armor.

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>>3210519
>Best Game?
I think V is the best by far. They're all timeless, though.

>Best Protag?
Madason, Erdrick and Erdrick's Descendant (1)

>Best Waifu?
Bianca, Alena and Nera

>Best Boss?
Zoma

>Best recruitable monster in V and VI?
Slime Knight

>Best Husbando?
Pankraz and Yangus. Sorry but I can't disregard him.

>> No.3217371

>>3214035
>they retconned the first game's hero to look like a faggot

Wait, really? Where does he look like that? I've never seen that art before and I refuse to believe that's the Hero from 1.

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Do the Monster's games count? If so then those are high on my lists, I played the shit out of them as a kid. DQM for the game boy was one of the first games I ever played.

>> No.3217597

>>3217371
The title's right on the image, you clueless moron.

>> No.3217669

>>3217597
pwnd!

>> No.3217675
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>>3217597
But that's not the game that retconned him.

>>3217371
The retcon came from Kenshin Dragon Quest, which was something of a prototype Dragon Quest Swords (pic related is what you play the game with), and was released only in Japan. The game is basically a retelling of the original Dragon Quest, and they gave Erdrick's Descendant a new look for it, that has been used subsequently in many other games, including Monster Battle Road I and II, which is what OP's picture is.

>> No.3217983

>>3210710
If the monsters have anything to say, it's nonsense that they repeat the entire game.

>> No.3220369

>>3210519
Monsters 2
Prince Harry
Bianca
Puppetor
Slime Knight

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3220438

What's goin on in this thread?

>> No.3220483
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>>3220438
Hello there.

>> No.3220692

>>3220438
Every time I'm grinding and I need to slaughter these fuckers I'm grinding my teeth into dust.

>> No.3221574

>tfw finishing DQI and starting DQII tonight

Wish me luck, bros.

>> No.3221679

>>3212167
I knew I recognized the first theme you get for the Stormcloud in Dragon Quest Heroes. My own favorite overworld theme, though? It's probably the theme that comes from when your Hero is going solo in IV.

>>3220438
Oh, nothing. Just wondering whether or not I should uncurse this Hela's Hammer off me.

>> No.3221751

>>3221679
Can you uncurse weapons?

>> No.3221759

>>3221574
Just beat DQ 1 SNES and in the middle of DQ 2 mobile, which versions did you play?

>> No.3221767

>>3221751
No. He's talking about the act of removing off cursed equipment by visiting a church.

>> No.3221803

>>3221767
Some cursed equipment is rather worth it, though. Hela's Hammer, at least in IV (dunno about the other games) is a crit-or-miss weapon, which makes it the perfect weapon for metal slime hunting. Even going with just Sofia, I've done grinding in Zenithia Tower in the room that spawns a shitload of Metal King Slimes in the DS version (forgot if it does so in the NES version too) and gotten Sofia up to Lv. 99 no sweat with that thing.

>> No.3221895

>>3221759
I have I-IV on the NES. I played I and III on the GBC long ago, but I want to play the originals. I'll probably do V and VI on my 3DS emulator.

>> No.3223032

>>3221574 anon here. I got fucked by a Red Dragon who put me to sleep mere inches away from the fucking dragon lord. I am pissed as fuck. Is Level 19 not enough?

>> No.3223135
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Which one?

>> No.3223659

>>3223135
whichever one you want!

>> No.3225756

>>3223032
>Is Level 19 not enough?
You could do it, but a couple more levels wouldn't hurt. 22 is as high as you'd ever need to get. But levels won't help you against the random number god deciding to put you to sleep. That's just shit luck, m8. Still in the time it took me to notice and reply to you, you've probably already killed that sucker, right?

>> No.3226286

>>3225756
I actually have been out of the house the last couple days, I'm going to tackle it again hopefully tonight. I might just grind so I can be a clean, nice Level 20 rather than an ugly odd numbered Level 19.

>> No.3227890

rise from your grave

>> No.3227942

>>3223135
Helmet is the right answer.

The armor is a waste, everyone that can equip it can also equip a stronger armor that you can just buy in the shop of the next town.

Shield isn't useless, but it's very underrelming. Assuming you will give the 2 Metal King Shield to Mireyu/Milly and Chamoro/Nevan, then all the other characters that would benefit from the shield can also equip the Ogre Shield+, that you can buy as much as you want and is just as strong.

The helmet on the other hand is the best helmet Chamoro/Nevan can equip, simple as that.

>> No.3230307

>>3221895
IV is a great one on the DS as well, just saying. The bonus content in Chapter 6 is an awful lot of fun.

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>>3230307
Some hate the ds version for its questionable translation so it depends. I'm hoping someday we get a retranslation as that one is my favorite and the ds version is the best version.

>> No.3230413

>>3230401
The only thing about it that I'm not fond of is that they left out the Party Chat in the US version. The translations actually don't bother me at all, even if the accents are kind of silly. I can't speak for the NotRussian bunch (huehuehue), but thinks like how Ragnar and Taloon speak? They're actually pretty well-done, for whatever that means to a phonetic accent.

I mean, read this, and tell me that Ragnar wouldn't talk like that.

https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland

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>When you grind at the casino by abusing saves and get endgame equipment on your party during early parts of the game

>> No.3230484

>>3230459
Oh boy, I bet that's tedious.

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>>3230459
I do that in every DQ game that allows it.The casinos are pretty damn comfy.I got a metal slime sword for the Hero and my best bro slime knight pretty early on in DQV.

>> No.3230848

>>3230459
>Metal Babble Shields for everyone!
>DS changes it to Falcon Blade

...Well, it's definitely not a bad thing to have, like, at all, but you can only really get much of a chance to use it if you get all the tokens you need in Chapter 2 (easiest way is with the monster arena, since the monsters in the arena are very predictable at this point, what with the bestiary being so small) and wait until you come back with the Hero in Chapter 5.

>> No.3230850

>>3230459
In Persona 1, I broke the game wide open by getting the number guessing thing on my first try.

>> No.3230970

>>3230484
By 'abusing saves' he means savestates, so no not tedious. It's like 3 minutes of work in some games. Take poker in 7: Win a single hand, savescum, double or nothing, reload if you get nothing, double or nothing again, and again and again and again. Basically as far as the game is concerned you one a single hand of cards and broke the bank with lucky choices.

>> No.3231021

>>3230970
That's a tedious way of cheating.

>> No.3231437

>>3231021
Not really.

>> No.3231507

>>3230970
>Abusing a built-in game feature is cheating

I remember a game on Super Famicom called Tengai Makyou Zero that auto saves everything you do with your "tamagotchi" garden, so if you kill one of them, they will remain dead even if you load your game.

>> No.3231605

>>3220369
>Monsters 2

My Slime

I definitely spent too many hours on this game on gb pocket and emulators throughout the years. My last run, I took Slash and kept breeding him until I had a Slime that had 999 in every stat and all ridiculous spells, HealUsAll, BigBang, Hellblast, Megamagic, that sort of thing.

To this day I've never seen Soul Tower though, just Brawn and Brain.

>> No.3231621

>>3231507
Pretty sure being able to save right in the middle of gambling isn't a feature of dragon quest

>> No.3232358

>>3230970
Well in the case of VI, I'm playing on the 3DS, so yes I have to use regular saves.

Since I just recruited Amos, I may as well go back to the casino for an extra set of platinum mail and a dragon shield.

>> No.3232560

>>3230413
>I mean, read this, and tell me that Ragnar wouldn't talk like that.

>https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland

That's hilarious.

>> No.3233763

>>3231021
How? That's a 1 minute process that breaks the game. Literally quicker and easier than looking up and entering a cheat code.

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Finally did it bros. Onto II.

>> No.3235183

>>3233763
I tried it in 4 and it took a lot longer than that.

>> No.3236203

>>3231021
I did it in Persona 1 with the code breaker machines. The answers didn't change if you saved when you started the puzzle.

>> No.3237558

bump

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>>3210519

>Best Game?
Having played all the ones released in the west, I would say Dragon Quest VIII. Though if the remake of Dragon Quest VII on 3DS is as good as it sounds, that may overtake it.

>Best Protag?
Probably the hero from DQV just because he had such a hard life but kept going. Though from a story standpoint, I prefer the way they handled the hero in DQVIII. Making him effectively a tag along until the post game, where we learn there was a purpose to him being on the team. Its kind of the best of both types.

>Best Waifu?
Bianca since I played a version without the hick accent.

>Best Boss?
My favorite is probably fighting the multiple guys in the Arena with Alena.

>Best recruitable monster in V and VI?
In terms of strength and versatility, Great Dragon or King Cureslime. But you only get slimes in DQVI so in that game, its Slime Knight, since he can do both the slimopolous and costume contest.

>> No.3237564

>>3232560

Ragnar doesn't come from Scotland. Its just a simple matter of suspension of disbelief. As well as realizing the original Japanese didn't have the accents.

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Daily reminder

http://www.siliconera.com/2016/05/10/dragon-quest-series-celebrate-30th-anniversary-live-stream-may-26/

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>>3237567

I'll watch it. But I doubt they'll be announcing any western release. Unless Yuji Horii pulls out another 'slip'.

>> No.3237662

>>3237647

I thought the new game was already confirmed for a western release? And considering we've had a decent track record for the series lately with more and more games being finally localized, I wouldn't be super surprised.

>> No.3237679

>>3237662
Horii "slipped" that it was going to be translated, but Square immediately backtracked and told everyone to pay him no mind, and to be sure to buy Dragon Quest Heroes to support future releases.

>> No.3237710

>>3237562
It's been awhile since I played V on the DS, but I thought she had a Cornish accent? If they didn't then, they have her with one now that she's got a voice actress for Heroes.

My own waifu, personally, would be Meena, but that's me. I really hope she's in the Heroes sequel.

>>3237679
Heroes was selling out at most of the Gamestops I come near, so I imagine it must have done something to pique Squeenix's interest. It may not be anywhere near as popular in the US as it is in Japan, but it does at least look profitable to export, if that's a sign of anything.

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>>3237662

Yuji Horii announced DQVII and VIII for 3DS were getting localized, before SquareEnix announced it. He also let slip that Dragon Quest XI is going to be on the Nintendo NX, which SquareEnix quickly covered up. But as far as I know, he didn't hint that DQXI was going to be localized.

I am hoping that the increase in recent DQ releases will mean we're returning to the PS2/DS days, where we got more constant releases. The current head of SquareEnix of Japan seems to be moving away from focusing on Final Fantasy and more towards releasing all games to the west. But it remains to be seen if that actually happens. The politics in SquareEnix are so mind boggling that we can never predict what they'll do. And even a secondary localization manager seems to be able to usurp the wishes of the CEO of the company.

>> No.3237780

>>3237756
Square said that it might be on NX when it was announced. Horii let it "slip" that XI was going to be localized, during a convention or whatever in France.

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>>3237780

>Horii let it "slip" that XI was going to be localized, during a convention or whatever in France.
Pretty sure that slip in France was about DQVII and VIII.

https://mynintendonews.com/2015/07/04/rumour-yuji-horii-apparently-announced-dragon-quest-vii-and-viii-for-west-at-japan-expo/

I hope he also said it about DQXI somewhere. And I hope to god SquareEnix is also going to consider DQX now that its going to China.

>> No.3237843

>>3237756

SE seems like they're starting to localize more and more games, which is nice. Great that they're giving us Romancing Saga 2, even if it is on mobile I had completely given up on the franchise in the west.

>> No.3237939

DQX... Localization... When...

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>>3237939

When you, me and about a million other people sign a petition. But the problem is finding those million other people.

>> No.3237972

Has anyone ever watched the DQ anime?

>> No.3237973

>>3237843
You should learn Japanese anyway so you can play whatever versions you want of whatever games you want in their original language.
Games like DQ are great for beginners.

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>>3237972

Dai no Daibouken only had 12 episodes subbed when I found it. Wonder if it was completed. Haven't even found raws for the other one.

>> No.3237978

>>3237973

I actually did start on Japanese. I got through the first segment of Tae Kim (all of the "basic grammar") and then tried to read some beginner material and got disheartened when I couldn't understand any of the grammar at all. I've been meaning to pick it back up.

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>>3237976
YĆ«sha Aberu Densetsu has more subbed. Anime-Koi did the first ten episodes, the rest have been undertaken by some Youtuber who is translating a few episodes a month. I'd watch it but

>anime on Youtube

>> No.3238094

>>3237820
Oh, whoops, I guess I'm mixed up.
Sorry, Anon.

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As a fun exercise, I am going to guage how much I would have spent on SquareEnix games this gen vs how much I actually did spend.

Games I have bought so far:
Final Fantasy XIV: ARR - $42
Final Fantasy XIV - Heavensward: $30
Final Fantasy XIV Subscription: $0
Theatrhythm: Final Fantasy - $40
Theatrhythm: Final Fantasy: Curtain Call - $40
Dragon Quest Heroes - $60

Total: $212.00

Games I would have bought so far if they were released to the west:
Dragon Quest X - $60
Dragon Quest X: First Expansion - $40
Dragon Quest X: Second Expansion - $40
Dragon Quest X Subscription (estimation of 3 years worth of subs) - $432
Dragon Quest VII Remake - $40
Dragon Quest VIII Remake - $40
Slime MoriMori Dragon Quest 3: Taikaizoku to Shippo Dan - $40
Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland Remake - $40
Dragon Quest Monsters 2 Remake - $40
Theatrhythm Dragon Quest - $40
Dragon Quest Heroes - $60
Final Fantasy XIV: ARR - $42
Final Fantasy XIV - Heavensward: $30
Final Fantasy XIV Subscription: $0
Theatrhythm: Final Fantasy - $40
Theatrhythm: Final Fantasy: Curtain Call - $40

Total: $884.00

Well, I guess I can thank SquareEnix for helping me save money.

>> No.3238219

>>3230413
missing party chat is pretty huge, that's half of the fun of 4-6

>> No.3238321

>>3221574

Hey me too! Finished DQ1 last week and I'm 8-10 hours into the ones version of DQ2. Pretty great so far

>> No.3238482

>>3237567
after that last anniversary livestream earlier this year, fuck no

>> No.3238487

>>3237756
>I am hoping that the increase in recent DQ releases will mean we're returning to the PS2/DS days, where we got more constant releases. The current head of SquareEnix of Japan seems to be moving away from focusing on Final Fantasy and more towards releasing all games to the west. But it remains to be seen if that actually happens. The politics in SquareEnix are so mind boggling that we can never predict what they'll do. And even a secondary localization manager seems to be able to usurp the wishes of the CEO of the company.

Since we're getting stuff even more-niche stuff like Romancing SaGa 2 and I Am Setsuna now, I'm pretty confident we'll get DQXI. I don't expect us to get DQMJ3 though.

>> No.3238583

>>3230413
>>3238219
I just beat IV after playing through V and I really didn't miss party chat. I guess I just didn't find it that interesting in V.

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>>3210519
>Best Game?
Not retro, but this.

>> No.3238653

>>3210793
Then who was 1?

>> No.3238871

>>3221759
This guy.

Just beat 2. Malroth was giving me some trouble. I went and ground out two more levels and no one in my party even died once when I went back.

Overall a far better game than the first and the Android port is really nice.

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3239113

Anyone have any cool concept/obscure art?

Found this early Nera art, quite cool.

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>>3239113

>> No.3239308

>>3239137
Holy fuck there's even official art of it.

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>>3239308

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>>3238109

Man, I imported Theatrhythm DQ, to play on my "normal" 3DS using Homebrew's Region Free. I love Dragon Quest, and I'm addicted to the Theatrhythm games

>Mfw I had to play it on my Japanese 3DS, due the Free DLC
>Mfw I find tons of changes that requires read moonrunes
>Mfw THIS is the only translation-help that I can find
>(google-docs-link)/spreadsheets/d/161bESjmDjBurS9pYku8QuN47bWHkUyR4MPBm_08wSWM/

Hard times to be a DQ fan...

>> No.3239513

>>3239328
Arina, Manya and Minea don't have the harem potential of 3.

>> No.3239617

>>3239513
Mostly because any single one of them would make you their bitch, especially Alena. Kiryl and Borya are pretty much her own harem already, and I wouldn't be surprised if she broadened her tastes a bit and took the Mahabala sisters into it, maybe even Sofia.

>> No.3239639

>>3239617
Clift may want that but she only thinks about kicking stuff down.

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>>3210519
>Best Game?
Dragon Quest V.
>Best Protag?
None of them have personality so based on their
design alone i will go with XI.
>Best Waifu?
Bianca.
>Best Boss?
Psaro cus muh sad story :'(
>Best recruitable monster in V and VI?
Slime Knights are the best bros.

>>3211105
Not in the Famicom and Super Famicom versions
but in the Game Boy Color version changing classes
is necessary due to a super hidden hard boss called Divine
Dragon which can give you the Rubyss Sword (the most powerful weapon in the game), beating the boss even requires you to drop the main hero in favor of a better warrior mostly because the hero
can not change classes. Divine Dragon is like pic related but golden.

>> No.3240487

>>3239639
That she is both willing and able to kick down magically sealed doors to save her friend is both endearing and soul-crushing to him.

>> No.3240907

>>3234810
Nice. I never played the NES version but I had it for GBC.

I should start II myself, beat I-V except for that game

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I like Dragon Quest. If Dragon Quest X had come here, I'd probably be playing it every day.

>> No.3242870

Dragon Quest IOS/Android are on sales. Just saying

I'm gonna buy DQ3 since is the only DQ I never played

>> No.3242942

>>3210519

>Best game

I can't choose between III-V and VIII, they're all so good (as well as some of the others I didn't mention). III really pulled me into the series, so it holds a special place in my hearts.

>Best Protag

Lacking in personality as they are, I really don't care about them.

>Best Waifu

Manya

>Best Boss

No idea

>Best recruitable monster in V and VI?

I don't know, maybe Golem?

I spent most of last year playing DQ I-IX for the first time. It took forever, but it was fun.

>>3211426

I liked it. Never played the PSX version, but I enjoyed the 3DS version and most of the changes sound nice. Some aren't though, like the fact that you can't keep some higher level skills when changing jobs. It's a really fucking long game, but i never really felt like it was padded out to me, it just felt like a long adventure.

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Has anyone ever made a fixed version of the SNES DQ2 translation with all those Cannock glitches, or should I just play the Game Boy version and avoid that shit altogether?

>> No.3243003

>>3242982
I don't believe a fix has ever been made.

>> No.3243007

>>3242982
Did the translation add those?
I don't recall severe glitches in the untranslated version.

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>>3214238
JRPG Heroes in general don't wear armor, except in a few notable exceptions. Look at Manga. Do Manga/Anime heroes wear armor?

>>3217352
10/10 taste.

>> No.3243020

>>3243007
yeah, the patch adds them. First glitch is in the above pic. If you talk to that clone Prince he replaces your Prince with his HP and MP stats set back to level 1, though you keep the other stats the same. Wouldn't actually be much of a problem except that it also makes you lose the Princess, and she can't be replaced because the Mirror is gone.

The other glitch is if you rest in the town where the Prince gets sick. When you bring the Leaf to heal him it starts and endless text loop. This one can be bypassed by temporarily playing your save file on an unpatched rom to get through that part.

I think I've heard another NPC causes an endless text loop too but I don't know the exact details.

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Thinking of picking up DQIII on Android since it's on sale. Does it run on Marshmallow?

>> No.3243084

>>3243062
That reminds me, I could probably make another Dragon Quest thread on /u/ right about now.

>> No.3243371

>>3243062
Good god no. It's a completely gutted SFC version. You may as well just emulate.

>> No.3243871

>tfw the last tnt board
reeeeeeeeeeeeeee, i just want starkers

Also, anyone else intersted in they'll show in the aniversary stream tomrrow morning at 5:30 pst

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>>3243371
It offers a bigger field of view.

>> No.3244571

>>3244553
You are the worst person.

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>>3244553
not worth the terrible controls and lack of content. steal the game or buy a Super Famicom.

>> No.3244589

>>3244573
>"this is a pretty nice image"
>get to Loto's face
>"i take it back"

>> No.3244640

>>3238651
Only one i've played, it's good and I still want to finish it, but the character designs are weird to me. Do other people think this is the best one?

>> No.3244687

>>3244553
At the cost of non-animated enemies.

>> No.3244720

>>3243020
the beran inn freeze is caused by his name length and can be avoided by using the rename feature. 5 letters and below is ok. 7 freezes.
i should have tested 6

>> No.3245229

>>3244687
and no pachisi tracks
among several other things

>> No.3245248

>>3211426
The most drastic change is in the class system. Basic skills can be retained and carried over when you change, but advanced ones cannot. Also, what skills you have in a class depends on what other class skills you've learned. Also monster classes teach advanced skills of other classes that can be carried over.

It's a pretty complicated affair, but basically it means you can't go all powerful. It's doable, but not as easily as in PS1.

I hope we get the mobile version too, I don't have a 3DS.

>> No.3245257

>>3243062
Get the DS ports, not 1-3.

First three can be gotten elsewhere but the second trilogy is a bready good porting job. Hell, IV is better because it restores party chat.

>> No.3245270

so what happened with the livestream that was supposed to happen today

>> No.3245287

>>3244553
was the original guy who asked about iii, this is half the reason i wanted it

>>3244687
wait it doesn't? fuck nevermind then

>> No.3245292

>>3245287
It doesn't. It's severely gutted.

>> No.3245468

>tfw I can play the whole series on my 3DS

Feels good.

>> No.3245537

>>3244573
That image is wrong since the female Soldier shouldn't wear panties.

>> No.3246119

>>3243020
>I think I've heard another NPC causes an endless text loop too but I don't know the exact details.
It's one near the exit of Rhone after you beat the game. I was so fucking mad.

>> No.3247219

>>3210548
II had the best world because it expanded on I.

>> No.3248181

Should I play DQ 1-3 on GBC or SFC (with english translation patches)?

>> No.3248298

>>3248181
SFC has better graphics and more viewing distance
GBC has an easier grind, and the GBC version of III has an additional bonus dungeon

Those are the main differences.

>> No.3248327

>>3248298
Thanks anon, I appreciate that.

>> No.3248526

what are some bosses that gave you guys trouble?

The dude on the Isle of Smiles or whatever in DQVI was pretty tough. The Lion asshole in DQIV also gave me trouble on my first run.

>> No.3248547

There's something I never quite understood in regards to dragon quest:

>Toriyama's stuff is charming but he has a limited palette of faces

>Porn artists still make fucking amazing smut

I'm not even kidding there are so many good doujins out there.

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>>3248526
I remember psaro being the only boss to ever give me any trouble, he killed me about 3-4 times. Other then him I've never really had trouble with any specific bosses.

>> No.3248823

http://nintendoeverything.com/yuji-horii-looking-to-bring-passwords-back-in-dragon-quest-xi/

>passwords in a modern game
the madman!

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>> No.3248947

>>3248553
You either didn't play DQVII or grinded like a motherfucker.

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>>3248947
Haven't played VII yet actually, wanted to start it but hearing the 3ds version announced made me decide to wait for it. How tough is that one?

>> No.3248961

>>3248952
It's not hard.
It's just long.

>> No.3248970

>>3248961
Yeah I know it's notorious for its length, 120 hours I believe. Don't know if I'm more excited or nervous about that length to be honest.

>> No.3249296

>>3248526
The boss from the sisters' chapter, when you come back with the full party in the main chapter in IV.

>> No.3249354

>>3248526
Balzack/Ballsack in Chapter IV for Dragon Quest IV was always a problem for me, but not a huge one, it was mostly as a kid that he was too difficult for me to beat. His second form in Chapter V is a total chump once you have someone in your party with Fullheal. Hell, even doing a solo run with Sofia, I stomped him pretty handily when that spell came into play. The only other bosses that were trouble for me going solo were Psaro (mostly during the phase where he casts a bunch of spells, because he'd nailed me twice with Whack), Foo Yung and Chow Mein, and Aamon on the DS version. The last one there I had to grind up to level 99 to be able to beat him, because when he put me to sleep, I had to be at full health (over 900 HP) to survive the onslaught until the sleep was done.

Empyrea and Captain Crow usually gave me some trouble in VIII, and Dhoulmagus' second form was only hard if you weren't set up right.

>>3248547
Definitely. I made a /u/ thread that pretty much lived off of the doujins (admittedly short ones, but still). The thread lasted for about a year and a half.

>> No.3249925

>>3248526
The martial arts thief guy in 4. He kept raising his defense and I forgot to include a debuffer in my party so it took forever to bring him down with critical hits.

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>>3210562
My nigga.

>> No.3249954

>>3248932
Feels good man.

>> No.3249965

>>3242982
The GC port is quite good, i started playing DQ in game boy and dont regret it.

>> No.3250137

>>3248970
3DS version supposedly trims the fat a little

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you are walking in the forest when this motherfucker shows up

what do you do

>> No.3252552

>>3252469
Submerge my dick in it.

>> No.3252771

>>3252552
lewd

>> No.3252984

>>3210519
>Best Game?
V and VI are both pretty great
>Best Protag?
Carver
>Best Waifu?
Debora, even if she's DS only
>Best Boss?
Stormsgate Citadel from VI
>Best recruitable monster in V and VI?
Slime Knight was pretty much my right-hand mon through 5 until I got the kids

>> No.3253113

>>3210519
What's your guys opinion on the importance of playing the games in order? I've played I, II and III in order and was planning to continue that, but I recently picked up VIII and really, really want to play it right away.

>> No.3253220

>>3252469
Kill him and take that 53000 xp he owes me.

>> No.3253492
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>>3253113
Just play it man, it won't matter as they all stand on their own fine. VII alone is over a hundred hours so it would be a LONG time before you played VIII.

>> No.3253495

>>3244640
I do. It's my favorite.

>> No.3253497

>>3252469
Hela's Hammer.
40% chance of killing any metal enemies in one hit.

>> No.3253619

>>3253113
There's two trilogies - 1-3 and 4-6. You get the most out of them if you go in order, but it doesn't matter which trilogy you do first, or if you do any of the other ones.

So, skipping to 8 would be just fine, and if you just did 3 that's actually optimal because references. Do 4-6 in order when you do get to those ones. Or don't, I'm not your mom.

>> No.3253621

>>3253113
Don't worry, only I-II-III and IV-V-VI share common themes and locations.

>> No.3253673

>>3252469
Flee immediately just to give the fucker a taste of its own medicine

>> No.3254028

>First mainline DQ is Dragon Warrior 7
>Convoluted time travel story that's disjointed and doesn't really matter until the near end
>Don't know what do next all the time
>Get stuck on a boss, look them up
>This boss is super easy, just use Ultrahit/Gigaslash with your attackers and hustle if you get low on health
>This is like the second boss you get after classes
>Didn't realize the guy was doing ungodly amounts of grinding
>So that's what I think I should be at at that point of the game and have godhand/hero/summoner at that point

At least that's over with. I just beat DQV and I liked it a lot more, and ordered the DS versions of 4 and 6. Should I play the rest of the series in order or are there some that are so good I should play them right away?

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>>3254028
Really like I said in >>3253492 it's cool playing them in order and seeing the little advances they made but honestly they all stand on their own just fine. IV is my personal favorite so I hope you enjoy it anon.

>> No.3254797

>>3254051
Not that guy but should I play IV DS, SNES, or NES?

>> No.3254805

>>3254797
There is no DQ4 on the SNES.
How's your Japanese?

>> No.3254837

>>3254797
/vr/ will jump on me but I'd say that the DS version is the best. The only real drawback in the lack of party chat which is also unavaliable in the NES version and accents that can get annoying at times but not as bad as people say

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>>3253619
>skipping 8
>ever

>> No.3256336

>>3255880
>reading comprehension

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>>3255880

>> No.3256487

I actually just started 8 now. It's the general rule to pick one weapon per character and then their specialty skill?

>> No.3256489

8 is mostly for graphics and music, the gameplay doesn't really do anything special.

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>>3256336
>>3256379
...Dammit, I'm a retard.

Whatever here's some tittymonster.

>> No.3256641

>>3256579
I really like that picture.

>> No.3256708

So I heard that aside from a non-broken class system and crippled tutorial puzzle dungeon, DQ VII 3ds only has some minor changes.
But what changes were made from the original DQ VIII when being remade for 3ds?

>> No.3256859

>>3256708
all I know is 2 new party members + enemies o the map + the ability to marry Jessica in the ending

>> No.3256910

I'm surprised there's no autists on /vr/ arguing over what the series name should be. Let's change that.

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>>3256708
some scenes were censored. that one guy doesn't eat dog food and marcello does a magic spell instead of cutting his own arm.
every extra jessica outfit is censored. her normal outfit made it without censorship thankfully.
and this is just the jap release.

the 3ds version uses the jap ps2 menu system, so get ready to see classic dq text menus instead of the pause menu we got.
random encounters being on the map is a huge change though and is poorly implemented. you can literally walk past all battles unless you're in a tight space.

>> No.3257030

>>3256924
Well, that looks like the jp version, so maybe the english version will have english pause menu.
And elevens censoring their own game for themselves? Madness!

>> No.3257120

>>3257030
supposedly the JP ratings board (CERO) has gotten stricter lately

>> No.3257152

I play through one of them every year. I think this year I'll do DQIII or DQVIII.

>> No.3257191

>>3242870
How is DQ3 on Android?
Would I be better off emulating the SNES version on my PSP?

Was thinking of setting up a retro gamestation.
Not sure how that would work, raspberry pi + crt tv. Would that work okay?

>> No.3257462

>>3257191
>How is DQ3 on Android?
Completely gutted.
>Would I be better off emulating the SNES version on my PSP?
Yes.

>> No.3257562

>>3256924
>every extra jessica outfit is censored.

da fuq

do we have screenshots of this travesty?

>> No.3257850

>>3242982
The glitch with the prince occurs because of his name. His name is randomly chosen from a set based on the name you enter for the main hero. However, it has a high chance of being "Rolondo" which is 7 characters. DQII on the SNES was built with 6 characters max in mind. This extra character fucks up a lot of things later on.

There are two ways to get around this glitch.

1. Rename the prince to something shorter. Go to the file select screen, pick out your file, then hold Left + Start, and press A, and you should have a naming prompt.

2. Play the GBC version. It's based off of the SNES version and it's portable and quite good.

>> No.3258103

>>3257562
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdvKhK9RfbE

>> No.3258225

>>3257850
So it's the translation patch's fault.
Good to know.

>> No.3258365

>>3258103
That's not so bad.

>> No.3258415

>>3256859
>No new party members in VII

They could have easily made the angel girl or the cucked bard party members, or even that boy from the arena before you get classes

>> No.3259103

>tfw you fucked up in recruiting Amos and you already saved

>> No.3259127

>>3258103
>EVERY OUTFIT IS CENSORED OMFG

>nope just a couple outfits have some who-gives-a-fuck tweaks

Overreact more.

>> No.3259140

>>3259103
Hope you enjoy using either Nevan or Ashlynn as your 4th until you get slime knight/Terry.
>>3258103
So aside from removed cleavage/hidden panties, she still HAS all the outfits right? Entire costumes weren't removed or anything?

>> No.3259182

>>3258103
The most notable part of this is how much better the PS2's graphics are than the 3DS. Not that I was expecting differently... but wow. Big difference.

>> No.3259194

>>3259103
>Amos
and nothing of value was lost

>> No.3259215

>>3259140
More costumes were added, actually.

>> No.3260896

Begone, Page 10

>> No.3260913

How's this for a class setup on DQVI?

Hero : Gladiator>Hero
Carver: Gladiator, Ranger
Milly: Luminary
Ashllyn: Sage, Armamentalist
Nevan: Sage, Paladin
Amos: Gladiator
Terry: Just stick with his gladiator class

Goowain: Paladin
Lizzie: Dragon, Gladiator

Not sure what to build the other slimes as.

>> No.3260976

>>3260913
Personally here's how I like it.
First, give everyone 1 rank in both priest and mage the moment you unlock the abbey so everyone has an 80 damage magic attack and heal. Optional: give everyone 1 rank in dancer so they can stop a foe for one turn if they're not being useful otherwise.
Oh, and once you get Amos say goodbye to having Ashlynn or Nevan in your main party ever again since they're so weak. Give the ghent staff to whoever you want healing (i.e. whoever is doing the least damage/buffing) and don't feel constrained by classes since without grinding you won't get multiheal/hustle dance until late game anyway and fullheal isn't needed until then either. Personally though I made Hero a sage because magic is strong early on and kazing on the only person brought back after a wipe is godly. I made Amos a ranger, later replaced him with Healie who I also made a ranger. Fun fact: Call to Arms is fucking awesome assuming the foe doesn't resist summons. Carver was a monk and from there you can go wither paladin or gladiator, do note that going gladiator you'll get hatchet man along the way for metal slimes and paladin gets a hit-all attack earlier (thin air vs boulder toss). Milly, Ashlynn and Nevan were all also made sages because if you aren't gonna attack physically then at least sit back as an MP pool for out of battle healing, or in battle in Milly's case. You could make her a luminary and get hustle dance instead of waiting for multiheal on a sage, it would also make your team look more balanced what with sage hero. Ashlynn going sage serves a double purpose since you can switch her in and magic burst nuke a team off of high sage mp when you're desperate.
Terry sucks but looks cool just give him the sage's stone (win it at the fashion show) and have him either use that or his sunderbolt blade, or maybe just wind sickles. His class doesn't matter really, gladiator does have survivability though. Maybe go ranger with him too. Lizzie stronk as anything.

>> No.3260982

>>3260913
The Dragon class does everything the Gladiator class does, but better, there's no reason to teach Lizzie it.

Training more than one slime may be a waste of time, but remember that you can't learn Omniheal through the class system, only Healie and Curie can learn it.

I'd have the Hero as Luminary and Milly as Sage, but your team will do the job, there isn't really an obvious best team like in FFV.

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3261001

>>3260976
>once you get Amos say goodbye to having Ashlynn or Nevan in your main party ever again since they're so weak
You do realize now that Nevan is better than Milly in everything.

>> No.3261023

>>3261001
Except looks.
Are you saying you don't want a hot piece of ass like Milly in your party?

>> No.3261256

>>3261001
So you'd let your main healer have a speed like that? Okay, your funeral, I'm not paying the priest to revive you though. Oh and both their attacks are shit, and the biggest difference in their defence comes from their armor, which Nevan will not be wearing with Hero and Carver doing all the damage.

>> No.3261289

>>3261256
>main healer
Wrong

>the biggest difference in their defence comes from their armor, which Nevan will not be wearing
What? I equiped Milly with the best equipments for this screenshot, but Nevan is literally with those equipments. Final game looks like

Hero
Sword of Ramias++
Metal King Armour
Shield of Valora
Metal King Helm

Carver
Flail of Destruction
Metal King Armour
Ogre Shield+
Metal King Helm

Milly
Solar Fan
Dragon Robe/Angel Leotard
Metal King Shield
Happy Hat/Golden Tiara

Ashlynn
Gringham Whip
Dragon Robe/Angel Leotard
Silver Shield
Happy Hat/Golden Tiara

Nevan
Metal King Sword
Metal King Armour
Metal King Shield
Helmet of Max Wynne

Terry
Orichalcum Fangs
Metal King Armour
Ogre Shield+
Metal King Helm

Amos
Flail of Destruction
Metal King Armour
Ogre Shield+
Metal King Helm

Lizzie
Flail of Destruction
Metal King Armour
Ogre Shield+
Metal King Helm

>with Hero and Carver doing all the damage
Their MP isn't enough to cast Big Banga

>> No.3261328

>>3261289
>Big Banga
Oh of course I forgot how before beating the game everyone has access to that and not you know getting oomphed and smacking the shit outta everything. And how before beating the game everyone should have metal king armor.

>> No.3261374

>>3261328
I don't know what's your point anymore.
Initially you were trying to prove that Milly is better than Nevan because of her agility.

Then you complained about his offensive game, even though Milly isn't any stronger.
Then you complained about his equipments, even though Milly's equipments are worse.
Then you complained about the lack of acess to a skill, even though this applies to Milly too.

>> No.3261408

>>3261374
Honestly I just think he's ugly like this guy said >>3261023 but don't want to admit it.

Also, if they're equal in bad attack and lack of a skill, and Nevan is competing with 2 others (3 if you count Lizzie) for good equipment until post-game post-scarcity, then shouldn't Millie's higher agility be the deciding factor?

>> No.3261456

>>3261408
Well, even without equipments, Nevan's HP, MP, resilence, strength and wisdom are better. Not by much though.

I think he's better at the end of the game, but at mid game there are points were Milly is better, sure.

>> No.3261481

>>3261456
Well, one other reason to have milly in the party in early midgame and not nevan, is because nevan has zing and if he dies then you're shilling out pre-post-scarcity gold to revive him, so you should keep him in reserve to revive everyone else. Assuming you don't just grind everyone to 8 priest immediately that is.

>> No.3261798

>>3260982
Any reason to have the hero as the Luminary?

>> No.3261810

You search the bookshelves and find "1001 monster jokes"

"What does a cureslime do with a skateboard?
A healflip!"

>> No.3261817
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3261817

>Best waifu

>> No.3261898

>>3261817
That's not Debora.

>> No.3262070

>>3258225
Actually, I just tested it out. Changing the name will fix the loop with the prince side-quest. However, the NPC in Rhone will still soft-lock you once you kill the final boss. Make a savestate.

>> No.3262379

>>3261798
Luminary is like a weaker Sage that has costless spells.
Since lightning spells from the hero class are costy, I think it would be a good idea to have access to costless skills, so the Hero won't run out of MP too easily.

Maybe this isn't necessary at all and I just value healing power too much.
Since at the end of the day I just try to learn every single class with every character, I may not be qualified to tell for sure which class combination is the best.

>> No.3262467

>>3260982
>The Dragon class does everything the Gladiator class does, but better, there's no reason to teach Lizzie it.
Do learn Martial Artist though.

>> No.3262478

>>3262467
I'm not saying go all the way for martial arts, but wind sickles is invaluable.

>> No.3262485

>>3262478
Why stop before knuckle sandwich?

>> No.3262496

>>3262485
Because of the shitty hit rate. I have more hatchet-man hits than knuckle sandwich hits, possibly coincidence though.

>> No.3262904
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>>3261817
lol no

>> No.3262916

>>3262904
>being a brony

>> No.3263304

>>3261817
DQ has many redheads.

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>>144205360

>> No.3263349

Looks like Nintendo will be showing off 7 3DS' English localization for the first time on day 2 of E3:

http://gematsu.com/2016/06/nintendo-treehouse-live-e3-2016-detailed

Hopefully we get a release date.

>> No.3263360
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3263360

I started a general on /vg/ so you can talk about modern and upcoming DQ games without worry.

>>>/vg/144205360

>> No.3263473

do you know about any games that use DQV's monster recuiting?
I already know about Pokemon Mistery Dungeon but I was wondering if more games did it

>> No.3263568

>>3263473
MonMus Quest Paradox

>> No.3263784
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3263784

>we'll never have another semen demon hero like Sofia

>> No.3263930
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3263930

>>3261817
She's sexy as hell in DQH.

>> No.3264012

>>3263930
>Maribel and Gabo replacing Bianca and Nera
>There are no DQV representants now
>They replaced them for this shit looking wolf kid that wasn't relevant even in his own game
I'm mad.

>> No.3264180

>>3264012
>it's a complaining about the roster episode

>> No.3264206

So you can't recruit everything in the DQ6 DS remake, among other things.

Does this noticeably detract from the experience? What remakes are worth playing/worth avoiding?

>> No.3264210

>>3264206
You couldn't recruit everything in the original, either. There's not enough space.

>> No.3264217

>>3264210
From wikipedia:

> In the original 1995 Super Famicom version of Dragon Quest VI, certain types of monsters can be randomly recruited if they are defeated with a Monster Master in the party. In the 2010 DS remake, this system has been removed, instead, there are certain Slimes that will join you once you accomplish a specific task. Lizzie still remains recruitable.

Sounds like a pretty big change?

>> No.3264221

>>3264217
Oh, you're talking about that.
Generally you'd be only using Human party members in VI, though.

>> No.3264228

>>3264221
So overall it's a non-issue? I could imagine a fair few people complaining about it.

>> No.3264239

>>3264206
>among other things
There is no other things, this is the only drawback.

>>3264217
>Sounds like a pretty big change?
It isn't because DQVI is a class based game. You learn all your skills via the class system, at the end of the day the monsters were just unecessary extra bodies. They have low level cap, they don't do anything different from humans, their equipments are more limited, you don't even need them to fill your party because the game already gives you 8 members.

>> No.3264245

>>3264239
On top of that, you've got a full human party by the time you can even recruit monsters in the first place.

>> No.3264256

Does VII have some kind of monsters recruitment?
And the remake?

>> No.3264257

>>3264239
>>3264245

so DS version best version for the things it adds?

>> No.3264289

>>3264256
No and no.
DQVII has a class system similar to DQVI, but besides human classes, there is monster classes.
There are some monsters in DQVII that when defeated will drop an item that allows your character to learn that monster's class. Like the human classes, you can learn basic monster classes to unlock intermediate and advanced monster classes.
Needless to say, monster classes are much stronger than human classes, but also real pain in the ass to master.

In the 3DS version, when one of your characters is using a monster class, their sprites will look like that monster.

>> No.3264296

>>3264289
Sounds like an improvement from VI honestly.
Fits better with the job systems and full human parties of these games.

>> No.3264360

>>3221574
I just finished 2 a couple days ago, currently going through 3 and that's all the DQ games I own

Hope 4 isn't pricey

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>>3221574

>> No.3264841

>>3263360
Well, that didn't last long.

>> No.3265217
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3265217

>>3264841

>> No.3265380

>>3265217
Someone just remake JRPG general

>> No.3266210

>>3263473
SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI

>> No.3267113

>>3266210
SMT isn't exactly the same since you have to negotiate unless I missed a game or two

>> No.3267130

Has anyone been able to find some preview shots of the Anniversary artbook? The most I can find is pictures of the cover. No inside shots.

>> No.3267141

>>3267130
They send me my book. So, maybe in 2 weeks I can provide some pictures.

>> No.3267196

>>3267141
I mean by that time I'll probably have mine as well. I'm just impatient is all.

>> No.3269616
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3269616

>>3267113
sorry, i guess i didn't really read your question too close. they aren't the same, however i do feel that DQ5 is a simplification of SMT's monster negotiation.

i would totally recommend the series to you! but from the looks of this comment, it appears you have already played a few entries. as a fan of both series, i find their differences to be less important than what makes them both appealing (to me).

>> No.3269617

Anyone is interested in Dragon Quest guides?

(mediafire)/folder/l55m8kml4wl98/Dragon_Quest_Guides

Dragon Quest VI guide is missing, and IX is a bunch of pictures (not bad, but not scanned pages)

>> No.3269630

>>3269617

thanks anon!

>> No.3269672

Which Dragon Quest grill do you most want to _be_?

>> No.3269806

>>3269672
Fuck off Gaylord.

>> No.3269813

>>3269616
Demon fusion and monster breeding are very similar, yet have big differences.

>> No.3270037

Is the casino even worth the trouble in 4? Playing the mobile port and the monster betting drives me crazy.

>> No.3270134

>>3270037
Some of the best equipment in the series is only found in the casino.

>> No.3270163

>>3270134
>mfw savescumming for hours getting the Gringham Whip in DQ8

It's totally worth it.

>> No.3270168
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3270168

>>3269672
I like to self insert as Sofia for the yuri.

>> No.3270174

>playing DQVI
>got item to go underwater
>found the hero of the real world
>boss whiped the floor with my party
I guess I went there too early.

>> No.3270196

>>3270174
you should have talked to the other hero first

speaking of 6, should I get the old man to make the helm, the shield or the armor

>> No.3270227

>>3270196
Eh you're right.
He was pathetically easy.
But what happens if you beat him without fusing?

>> No.3270230

>>3270227
you just get zap afterwards

>> No.3270338

>>3270196

>>3223135

>> No.3270690

>>3269617
Ah! Thank you so much!

>> No.3270695
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3270695

>In no version of DQV is an Owlbear tameable
>Not even in the DS version where A
>FUCKING
>BEASTERMASTER
>IS

Explain this bullshit to me. He's not even a monster, he's a guy who tames monsters just like you. The only difference is his funny facepaint.

He can't even call for backup when you recruit him, this is Magus tier nerfing.

>> No.3270921

>>3270695
Restless armor can't call for healslime backup either, such bs.

>> No.3271045
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3271045

>>3210519
>asking dq fans if the series is worth playing
Is the whole series worth playing, I been considering jumping into retro rpgs and really liked the ps2 one.

Which games are fucking necessary or are they all great?

>> No.3271482
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>>3271045
I played from 1 to 5, and everyone is amazing. Some are better than others, and maybe DQ II is the weakest for me, but also amazing.

Remember this picture tips...
(I played GBC versions of DQ 1-3, and I loved them)

>> No.3271492

>>3271482
>Dragon Quest 5 has a self-contained story

No it fucking doesn't. Half the damn game deals with places, concepts and prophecies from 4 - 5 is, of the entire SERIES, the MOST sequelish game. It's DQ4 The After Years. It's great but recommending anyone start off with 5 is like telling people to start watching Star Wars with Empire Strikes Back.

>> No.3271517

>>3271045
Not retro, but I absolutely adored 9, not a very good plot but the mechanics were fantastic.

>> No.3271563

>>3271492
You can't be that retarded.

>> No.3271569

>>3271482
How do we know that the upcoming 3DS version of DQ7 is the best one? Genuinely curious.

>> No.3273127

>>3271482
Why does the Dragon Quest logo jump back and forth between red and blue text?

>> No.3273160
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>>3271482
>play 1 & 2 super famicom version over nes/famicom

>> No.3273165

>>3273127
looks like after 3 the odd-number ones get blue logos

>> No.3273182

>>3273165
>after 3
The original release of 1 as well as 3 both had blue logos. the remake of 3 switched to red, but the remake of 1 still had a blue logo

>> No.3273348

>tfw want to finish 6 but there are jobs to grind

>> No.3273403

>>3273348
I wouldn't know anything about job grinding, I'm trapped in the casino until I get armor for everyone.

>> No.3273552

>>3271569
the game has been out for 3DS for i don't even know how long but like two years already? honestly the changed a lot but most of the differences you can literally see in this trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea4Tjie4ZiM

and then just LOOK at the ps1 version. i've played the whole darn thing, and i can say that by just looking at the new trailer alone that this is the superior version.

plus the 3D version keeps track of which collectibles you've collected which is HUGE if you know anything about the shards that are central to this game.

highly encourage all to purchase the english 3DS version when it releases.

>> No.3273571

>>3273552
No encouragement needed, I'm definitely getting it with DQ VIII.

>> No.3273787
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3273787

>>3238653
1 was the original descendant of Erdrick. You might be thinking of the Dragon Warrior Explorer's Handbook.

>> No.3273790
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3273790

>>3273787

>> No.3273813

>>3210519
Why up to VII, when VIII is the best in the series?

>> No.3273885

>>3273552
Cool thanks.

I probably won't get it because the original PS1 version of DQ7 bored me to death, but yeah the 3DS version looks like it has some good shit in it. Especially the costume changes.

>> No.3273903

>>3273813
>retro

>> No.3273951

Man, DQII (on NES) has come to a fucking crawl. I have three crests but this shit has become a slog. I've had to do way more grinding than I had to in the first DQ. Since I've been traveling by ship, it's hard for me to find a good grinding spot: one where I can get a lot of EXP but not having my party members die each battle. And when they do, not every town has someone who can revive. Fucking tedious. I'm lingering around Osterfair and the sea around it, since sea slug encounters provide a lot of EXP. It's a fun game, but I'm really annoyed at some of these things.

>> No.3274108

I'm kinda curious. Could Dragon Quest 1-3 be remade for DS?
A ROM hack, I mean. I think that'd be neat as shit.

>> No.3274130

>>3274108
No, it can't.
It would require a massive amount of effort, it would be glitchy as every room hack, graphics would probably look out of place, very few people would care.
Not to mention the DQ community isn't even big enough to hack and translate the official games, how do you expect them to make a homebrew almost from the scratch?

>> No.3274142

>>3274108
Why not just play the SNES remakes on the 3DS? It's very easy to do nowadays.

>> No.3274148

>>3274130
Well shit, that's disappointing.

>>3274142
I like the engine they used for 4-6. I will play those remakes on my 3DS though.

>> No.3274191

>>3273552
b-b-b-b-but shit translations and censorships!!!!!!1!!!!11!!one!!!

>> No.3274192

>>3273903
No one cares. Look at the thread, there's been plenty of talk about non-retro titles. Hell the OP pic is from two not-retro games

>> No.3274193

>>3274148
That's just a slightly modified DQ4 PSX engine, FYI. 4 DS was just a port of 4 PSX, even.

>> No.3274261

>>3273951
And for that reason (and more reasons), is considered the weakest DQ game...

>> No.3274343

am I missing anything playing the first 3 on android?
not emulated I mean off the store.

Only change I could find was possible higher exp and gold rates which doesn't really seem like a huge issue. Already finished the first and just got my first party member in the second.

Planning on playing them all through. 1-3 android, 4-6 DS, 7 ps1 unless 3ds version comes out first, 8 ps2 or 3ds version, 9 DS.
If there are better options for those please let me know.

>> No.3274460

>>3274343
How often is this going to get asked?

>> No.3274473

>>3274460
maybe until someone answers it?

>> No.3274490

>>3274343
3 Mobile is a gutted version of 3 SFC.
Otherwise, no you're not really missing much.

>> No.3274491

>>3274473
You don't take gutted as an answer?

>> No.3274542

>>3274193
Oh. Huh. That's pretty cool.

>> No.3274735
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>>3274542
Have some screenshots

>> No.3274902

>>3274735
That looks a bit better than it did on the DS. Cool.

>> No.3274920
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>>3274142
DQIII with translation patch doesn't work with BlargSNES on O3DS

>> No.3275093

>tfw no slime plushies

>> No.3275146

>>3274920
That's a bummer. I'm glad I waited to jump into 3DS when the N3DS came out.

If you have a smartphone you could play it on there. Touchscreen is ok for RPG's.

>> No.3275627
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>Playing IV
>Alena's chapter
>That part where the impostors get kidnapped
>get the amulet of transmutation
>don't know what to do with it
>go to the desert bazaar, and then try the tower
>find out you're supposed to go back to town at night to see them in the graveyard
>nobody is there

Am I screwed? Did this very minor sequence skipping ruin the game?

>> No.3275721

>>3274343
Just wait for 3DS for 7, the remake is so much better than the original it's not even funny, and I'm assuming you'll be getting a completely new translation instead of the awful original one.

Why not just play SNES versions of 1-3? Square Enix mobile ports never look nor control better than what you can get on an emulator, and they care so little for QA they might not even run on your Android device. Just run them in Snes9x with RetroArch is what I'd do unless you want to buy mostly to support English language DQ releases (I sure don't since mobile is on the bottom fucking list of systems I'd like to see them on)

4 is the only game that actually has an advantage when played on Android for English speakers, since they didn't bother translating party chat for the DS version and just removed it instead.

For 5 you might want the PS2 version instead, it has better graphics and music but lacks the new waifu on DS. Unless you want to marry the only DQ girl who'll abuse you worse than Maribell the PS2 remake is probably better, I think there's an English fan translation available too.

>> No.3276190

>>3275721
I'd prefer to buy them all to try to support english releases.
Also games I emulate I never finish, when I spend money I feel like there's a commitment.

Is party chat in 4 really a big thing? I hear a lot of people say it's important but a lot who say it isn't and just to play the ds version.

>> No.3276404

>>3274920
Does it work on the N3DS?

>> No.3276478

>>3276190
The party members in DQ games when prompted will comment on just about anything happening as you play, and through dialogue you get to know and love characters, so yeah... I'd say it was pretty damn shitty of them to just cut it out because they couldn't be bothered.

>> No.3276538

>>3275627
You have to talk with a kid in the town that tells you to bring the amulet at night.
Though you probably already did this by now.

>> No.3276550

Why won't they release the SNES version of DQ 1, 2 and 3 in a collection for 3DS or something? Goddammit

>> No.3276556

>>3276550
They did for the Wii......... :(

>> No.3276657

>>3275721

All people that says that Debora is an abusive woman, are totally wrong.

If you speak with her (as your wife), not only she's totally in love with you, she respects your strenght and your courage.

She's only a typicall tsundere, and note a big one, because she talks a lot about her past and her emotions.

>> No.3276660

>>3276404
It doesn't work on blargSNES at all.
But N3DS has more (and better) emulator options.

>> No.3276663

>>3276657
>not only she's totally in love with you
I didn't get that impression at all until the very end of the game

>> No.3276701

I never hear anybody talking about DQ6 at all. Is it just kind of mediocre after 4 and 5?

>> No.3276712

>>3276538
2 of 3 walkthroughs neglected the fact.

I'm playing 4 and 8 concurrently and in 8 I have to find the moon harp, and Angelo immediately says a royal might have it. Wish they did that one too

>> No.3276901

>>3276663

Party chat can show it very fast and some times. When you return to Whealbrook, she's very worried for you.

>> No.3276905

>>3276701
Yup.

>> No.3277173

>>3276712
You're playing a Dragon Quest game, the "talk to everyone" rule is in FULL effect in this franchise. Day AND night. This is true of 4 and equally true in 8 - a lot of 8's plot encounters occur during the day, which isn't usually a problem but they are there.

>> No.3277393

>>3276701
yes and no. whereas it doesn't do a good job of being a sequel to 5, it is far superior to the comparatively plain 4. most people did not grow up with 6 like they did 4 though, so you will never see anyone agree with me on this point.

5 > 6 > 4

>> No.3277432

>>3276712
>not talking to everyone in a JRPG
what the fuck are you doing?

>> No.3277616

>>3277393
I played V and VI on Snes way before IV on DS, and IV is my favorite of those 3.

Also I think V is a weak entry to the series, as it has one of the least polished battle system. 80% of the recruitable monsters are just terrible, and even if you spend hours trying to build a team that fits your style, the game itself encourages you to drop them for the same static party composed of Hero + wife + son + daughter.

>> No.3277912

So I'm at Portoga in DQ3 (NES) with Lvl 15 Hero, Lvl 15 Fighter, Lvl 17 Pilgrim and Lvl 16 Wizard, which classes should I change them to and at what level?

What I'm thinking of doing:
Fighter => Sage
Pilgrim => Soldier
Wizard => Pilgrim

>> No.3277916

>>3277912
In my opinion the Pilgrim would be better of being a Fighter since you'll be able to pull off start-of-round emergency healing or buffs depending on how far along you level it before changing.

>> No.3277961

>>3277912
Don't turn warriors into casters, they won't be strong no matter what.
Turning a high level pilgrim into a warrior works. Not great though, as warriors don't earn any MP, but works. Remember to fix that character's personality with a book.
Do not turn a wizard into a warrior though, your physical attacks will become as strong as your magic anyway, so magic acess will become redundant.
Also you may as well just turn wizards and pilgrins into sages instead of the opposite class, since sages have acess to better equipments.

>> No.3277973

>>3276663
She does birth you two children.

>> No.3277976

>>3277916
Pilgrims don't have buffs.
Wizards do.

And by buffs I mean bikill/twin hits, the only buff you will ever cast.

>> No.3277996

>>3277976
>not ever user defensive buffs
Your funeral.

>> No.3278102

>>3277996
I don't think you know what you're talking about, Mr. I cast buffs with my Pilgrim into Fighter.

>> No.3278121

>>3278102
>emergency quick healing is a bad thing
>emergency quick buffs are a bad thing

>> No.3278134

>>3278121
Healing spells are worthless when the Sage's Stone can heal all your characters for free as often as you want.

>> No.3278145

>>3278121
>emergency quick healing is a bad thing
I never said that
>emergency quick buffs are a bad thing
Once again, it's the wizard, not the the pilgrim that has buffs.
And the defense buff is indeed unecessary, even by the point where bosses start becoming hard it's unecessary because they will just cancel your buff that wasn't even that great.

>> No.3279374

Thread's deader than Pankraz

>> No.3279415

Should I play DQ3 on snes or gameboy?

>> No.3279470

>>3279415
SNES for better visuals and sound, GBC for official localization and extra content. Your choice.

>> No.3279569

For whatever weird reason I seem to like the original SFC version of VI's soundtrack more than the DS version's.

>> No.3279713

>>3279415
I personally prefer the GBC version to the SNES version.

>> No.3279779

>>3277973
Don't need no love for that

>> No.3280831
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3280831

It was good.
Time to play Builders and then on to IV.

>> No.3280842

>>3279713
Any particular reason why? I'm about to play the NES version, but I played GBC as a kid.

>> No.3280893

>>3280842
Not him, but the only reasons I can think of are it's portable, it's got the fastest movement speed, and it's got the second bonus dungeon.

>> No.3282389

>>3275093
Hit up anime conventions. There are guys that go to Japan there regularly and come back with a SHITTON of imported goods. It's where I picked up two life-sized slime plushies for my sister and I. Keep in mind though, it's semi rare, like maybe 1 out of every 20 stalls will have some, but you should definitely check them out. I also managed to score a really well made King Slime keychain.

>> No.3282754

wew 2 is much grindier than 1
does it get worse or roughly the same?
Having fun but there's definitely a steep increase in the amount of grind time between these two games.

>> No.3282768

>>3282754
Late game DQ2 has random encounters that can instantly kill your whole party with a single spell no matter what your level or HP are.

>> No.3282773

>>3282768
i already had something similar happen
just a single mage, he got to get an ambush attack or whatever, cast a spell 35hp gone, next turn again 35 hp gone, and once more 35 hp gone.

Same spell 3 times in a row entire party wiped before i could kill it. got 1 attack off

>> No.3284124
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3284124

Hey, I'm translating some Dragon Quest material, and I was asked to use the names that come from the latest official localizations. Thing is, I've only played the games in Japanese. A wiki tells me all I need for most things, but I'm not sure about this one.

What name does Loto go by in official localizations these days? Is it Loto or Erdrick? I know both have been used. I think it's Erdrick, but I just want to double check.

>> No.3284159

>>3284124
Erdrick as far as I know.

>> No.3284168

>>3284159

Yeah, I just discovered that. Thanks. Seems that most fans are pretty familiar with both names though.

>> No.3284219

>>3284168
Loto was used during the Enix era.
The Square Enix localization team changed a lot of names and terms, magics being the most notable. I don't know where exactly Erdrick was used for the first time, but in DQIX you can get his sword and it's just called "Erdrick's Sword".

>> No.3284230

>>3284219

Erdrick was actually used in the original NES DQ translation. Loto popped up later on, and I guess it went back to Erdrick.

>> No.3284663

>>3284230
That could be considered the Nintendo era.
Nintendo localized the first game, and Enix kinda ran with it for II and III.

>> No.3285290

>>3284124

In GBC (DQ 1, 2 and 3) the name is Loto. But in the mobile versions, they used Erdrick again.

>> No.3285384

>>3285290
So at the end of VI, what do you think hatched from the egg? I say it's gotta be a body for Ashlynn to go to the real world in. I mean they can't just have you're parents tease about you two getting together and then NOT get together.

>> No.3285405

>>3285384
They can and they most likely did, because it's far more likely that the Zenith Dragon is what hatched.

>> No.3286932

>>3280842
>>3280893
I personally preferred the visuals. I think the SNES version is too busy. I also did like that it was portable, and due to finding it in a bargain bin when I was young, I have a lot of nostalgia for it.

>> No.3287980

>>3285384
I didn't understand why they would do that tease and then "oops, maybe not teehee ;^)". It's hard to imagine anything other than this >>3285405 coming out of the egg, but that scene happening right before the game ends must have had a meaning.

Maybe it's trying to tease there's another way with the help of the Zenith Dragon.

>> No.3288041

So in playing IV and Borya just joined me to look for some medicines.

Do I use him or Maya, or is it mainly a choice between fire and ice magic? Is he a permanent member/worth using versus one of the chosen ones?

>> No.3288052
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3288052

>Best Game?
The original. I liked the solitary atmosphere found in the first game. Party-based gameplay effectively killed that.

Although I think it's possible to do a solo run of DQ3. I should give that a try.

>Best Protag?
The hero / heroine from DQ3, maybe. At least in terms of versatility matched with raw potential.

>Best Waifu?
Prince of Cannock.

Don't judge.

>Best Boss?
Malroth / Sidoh

Because max grinding is fun, and more enemies should logically use healing spells on themselves?

>Best recruitable monster in V and VI?
Didn't pursue those games. The plot and setting of V was too linear and had such forced character roles that I didn't care for it. I have no idea how DQ6 pans out though. I may give it another look.

>> No.3288260

>>3288052
I'm liking the original a lot so far.

Prince of Cannock looks good but what are those goggles for?

>> No.3288325

>>3288260
Fashion. Prince Middenhall has goggles too, and I bet that if there was a Prince Moonbrook instead of a Princess, he's be wearing goggles too.

>> No.3288370

>>3288325
Ah. Looks a bit silly, but it works for him.
How soon into the second game do you meet him?

>> No.3288375

>>3288370
Very soon. Your first task is to meet up with him. Cannock Castle is the second town you visit, but you have to go on a bit of a wild goose chase before you find him.

>> No.3288379
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3288379

>>3288375
Great. I'm sure the goose chase will be worth it.

>> No.3288806

I'd love to get into Dragon Quest. I know there have been a few different remakes of DQ1, are any of them worth playing over the NES/Famicom version? For that matter, are there any notable differences between the NES and Famicom versions?

>> No.3288813

>>3288806
NES had battery back-up while Famicom had a password system, I think.
The Super Famicom remake eliminates some of the extra commands. The mobile version is mobile.

>> No.3288824

>>3288806
Famicom had no facing on the sprites so you entered a direction for commands like talk.

>> No.3288829

>>3288813
>>3288824

Cool, thanks. I think I'm gonna go with the NES version.

>> No.3288846

>>3288806
The GBC/SNES remakes also ease in the gold and exp grind which is a GOOD thing because DQ1 kinda sucks.

>> No.3288847

>>3288806
I'd honestly just suggest to start with DQ3. You'll miss out on some easter eggs and references to DQ1 but it's no biggie.

>> No.3288848

>>3288806
>are there any notable differences between the NES and Famicom versions?
Yup.
https://tcrf.net/Dragon_Warrior#Regional_Differences

>> No.3290069

>>3288041
forget magic of all sorts except zaki and zaraki :^)

best party is you, alena, ragnar, cristo

>> No.3290140

What versions of 2, 3 and 4 do you guys recommend? Also, is there any big difference between the NES localization of 3 and the GBC localization?

>> No.3290148

>>3290140
super famicom/game boy for 2 and 3 (3 has a bonus dungeon if that matters to you)

there really isn't a right answer for 4 since the DS has a questionable localization and no party chat feature, which the mobile version has

>> No.3290151

>>3290148
*bonus dungeon on Game Boy

>> No.3290218

>>3290151
The Zenethia dungeon? The sfc version of 3 had that one too.

>> No.3290230

>>3290151
*extra bonus dungeon on Game Boy
The SFC remake included a bonus dungeon, and the GBC remake of the SFC remake included a second bonus dungeon.

>> No.3290246

>>3290148
>>3290151
>>3290218
>>3290230
Alright, I think I'll go with the gbc versions of 2 and 3. But now, should I play 4 ds or 4 nes? The only differences I know are that 4 ds has overdone accents, which I like.

>> No.3290247

>>3290140
>What versions of 2, 3 and 4 do you guys recommend? Also, is there any big difference between the NES localization of 3 and the GBC localization?

I enjoyed the NES and GB/C versions of DQ2 mutually. The GB/C version adds some new lines and other bonus content, and balances a few things to make the game somewhat easier, or at least faster.

The GBC version of 3 differs a decent bit from the original. I haven't played all the way through it, but they added in a whole personality matrix for the hero. Choices you make throughout the game change your character's alignment. There's also a lot of bonus content in that one, including Tiny Medal collecting.

As for the localization quality of 3, I would like to know more about this myself. I believe it received a T rating in English, which implies Enix might have left in the more "mature" content that was originally planned but dropped due to Nintendo's meddling. There's a common rumor that a gay bar was supposed to appear in DQ3, but since no sources were ever cited, it could be an old Internet myth.

Can't really comment on 4, as the only localized versions I know of are for NES and DS. Wasn't there also a PS1 remake that wasn't translated?

>> No.3290268

>>3290247
>I haven't played all the way through it, but they added in a whole personality matrix for the hero. Choices you make throughout the game change your character's alignment.
That was all added in the SFC version

>There's also a lot of bonus content in that one, including Tiny Medal collecting.
This was a GBC addition, though.

>> No.3290275

>>3290247
>Wasn't there also a PS1 remake that wasn't translated?
It wasn't, but the DS version is a port of it, with added Party Chat (unless it's the NA/EU version)

>> No.3290278
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3290278

>>3290246
If you don't mind the accents then 4 is definitely the way to go, since you couldn't control your party members in the original and there's extra content like an extra chapter

Also consider the mobile version, as that includes the party chat feature that wasn't in the DS version

>> No.3290279

I'm trying to find Loto's Seal in DW I. The one bitch in Mercado said there's a shrine south of the place, but there isn't. Unless I'm blind. I've walked all the way south and still haven't found it yet.

>> No.3290354
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3290354

Interesting.

>> No.3290413

>>3290279
Nevermind, I found the seal.

>> No.3290739

>>3290148
The right answer is the Japanese DS version.

>> No.3290753

>>3290739
not everyone knows moon, though

>> No.3290774

>>3290753
I didn't know it either, until I learned it with the help of Dragon Quest.

>> No.3292359

Will 7 have any new playable characters? Jann seems like an obvious choice

>> No.3292490

>>3292359
>Will
DQVII was already released anon, almost 3 years ago.

>> No.3292589

Why has no one patched out the accents NDS games?

>> No.3292601

>>3292589
difficulty of hacking and main culprit (dq4 ds) needs to be based on the jap rom

>> No.3292612

>>3292601
He didn't say restore party chat, he just said remove accents. I don't think you'd need to JP ROM for just that.

>> No.3292978
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3292978

Was watching a video and realized bubbling molten aluminum looks like a liquid metal slime, made some gifs with related filenames for ya.

>> No.3292980
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3292980

>>3292978
Also which fleeing gif do you like better, first or second?

>> No.3292984
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3292984

>>3292980
And finally, one whose joke is not the lms fleeing.

>> No.3294054
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3294054

http://e3.nintendo.com/games/dragon-quest-vii-3ds/

!!!

>> No.3294190

>>>/v/341499513
>Square Enix Testing the Waters for Dragon Quest 11 Localization

>It's been four years since Dragon Quest X launched in Japan, and still it has not been localized for the West. However, the franchise's developers, speaking in a recent interview, said that they want to bring it over--but there are difficulties.

>"We want to bring X over," producer Yu Miyake said. "We definitely would love to bring it over, it's just with Dragon Quest 10, aside from the immense amount of text involved in the localization, there's also the operational aspect to it, being an online game. Square Enix is doing Final Fantasy XIV [in the West] so there is that possibility. But it's just a huge challenge to bring that game over.

>"But with Dragon Quest VII, we were able to bring it over because a lot of fans were asking for it, sending letters, asking for it to be released and localized. So with the other games I just mentioned, and Dragon Quest XI... If more fans can voice their opinions on it and we see that people really want the game, there may be a possibility we'll be able to make it."

>He added that with the recent launches of Dragon Quest Builders and Dragon Quest Heroes, the team is hoping to reach more players through the use of different genres. The team hopes to build the player base and interest in the series in preparation for the launch of Dragon Quest XI, which will be a more traditional RPG. They are also hoping that fans who want localized versions of Dragon Quest games are more vocal, so they can legitimize the work going into localization.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/square-enix-testing-the-waters-for-dragon-quest-11/1100-6440937/

>> No.3294229

>>3294190
Holy fuck this is the exact same dribble they spouted last year.
They already know we want these fucking games, what is their major malfunction?

>> No.3294259

>>3294229
I guess they want bricks thrown through an executive's windshield and multiple SE offices with a note saying, "Localize Dragon Quest, you colossal faggots."

>> No.3294381

>>3294054
Hot damn, September 16th. Wish it would've been a little earlier but I'm really excited.

>> No.3294447

>>3290354
>September

fuck.

>> No.3294524
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3294524

>Nintendo censored the sword again
What is their problem with the original logo?

>> No.3294548

>>3294524
>c 2000, 2013, 2016 ARMOR PROJECT/BIRD STUDIO/SQUARE ENIX All Rights Reserved
>ARMOR PROJECT
>ARMOR
Gee, you tell me why the WEAPON was censored.

>> No.3294589

I didn't know Dragon Ball Z had a RPG spin off

>> No.3294631

>>3294548
There have been plenty of Armor Project developed titles that had the Sword.

>> No.3294646
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3294646

Casual RPG fan here. I was in a retro game store today and saw Dragon Warrior (NES) for $10 and almost picked it up. Is it worth playing nowadays? It looks fun enough, but is there a better, more balanced/playable remake? Is it grind-heavy?

>> No.3294671

>>3294646
There are lots of better, more balanced remakes.
And yes, Dragon Quest is grindy.

>> No.3294673

>>3294671
Especially the first one. That one is super fucking grindy.

>> No.3294689

>>3294671
Which remake of 1 is considered best? Would love to get into DQ.

>> No.3294694

>>3294689
The SNES with a fan translation. It comes with DQ2, but you should opt for the GBC version of that because the SNES fan translation has some really bad bugs.

>> No.3294740

>>3294694
Wouldn' it be more worthwhile to just get I & II on GBC then?

>> No.3294923

>>3294740
It would be more worthwhile to play 1 and 2 in Japanese.

>> No.3294926

>>3210589
>>3210593
TUTTI FRUTTI

>> No.3295347
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3295347

"I want to get into Dragon Quest but i don't know where to start."

fantastic>great>ok>bad>horrible

>I - SNES with fan translation
ok
>II - SNES with fan translation
bad
>III - SNES with fan translation or GBC (SNES is better overall, GBC has a couple more extras.)
great
>IV - DS or Mobile (Mobile version has Party Chat restored, is otherwise identical to DS version.)
great
>V - DS or PS2 fan translation (DS has an additional waifu to marry, PS2 has better graphics.)
fantastic
>VI - DS
ok
>VII - PS1 or 3DS
great
>VIII - PS2 or 3DS
fantastic
>IX - DS
ok
>X - pretty much everything
lol never ever but heard it's ok
>XI - PS4, 3DS and maybe the NX
isn't out yet but looks great

>> No.3296256

Who's excited for September?

>> No.3296320

>>3295347
>Dragon Quest VII is good
>Dragon Quest VI not so much
Every fucking time.
Dragon Quest VII is just a massive Dragon Quest VI, there aren't two DQ games more similar than those two. If you don't like DQVI you won't like DQVII, now stop borrowing opinions about games you haven't played and pretending to know DQ.

>> No.3296345

>3295347
>ok, bad, great, heard its ok

That was... helpful?

>> No.3296405

>>3295347
>>3296320
>>3296345
i tried to make a short video describing briefly how one might get into the Dragon Quest series. i could post it here if anyone would like to watch it.

>> No.3296980

So I heard the recommended party for III was Priest>Soldier, Mage>Sage, but what about the last slot? Jester>Sage? Should I wait for HealUs before switching priest to soldier? When should the mage switch?

>> No.3297027

>>3296980
The game's just not that hard, man. I dunno if there's any combo that would actually make it less fun. Maybe starting with three mages. Though in the original version that would probably still be fun. (The remakes overshadowed attack magic with AoE weapons.)

>> No.3297071

>>3296980
No, the recommend party is:
>Hero
>Soldier
>Pilgrim
>Wizard->Sage

>> No.3297909
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3297909

please help
>>>/vg/145779058

>> No.3297992

>>3294259
I really hope those bastards go die in a fire for basically killing any possibility for dqx or the 3ds monsters games in the west this e3.

Its over, its impossible for them to announce any of the games except dq8 and its not gonna be possible later cuz the 3ds is gonna be probably replaced by the nx next year just like lbx2 and lbx wars were canned and replaced by yokai watch focus.

In conclusion...

FUCK THIS WORLD!

>> No.3299250

>>3216485

What anime is that?

>> No.3299256

>>3299250
Azumanga Daioh

>> No.3299269

>>3297909
Well, that didn't last long.

>> No.3299465

>>3299256
Thanks :)

>> No.3299616

>>3297909
That lasted a lot longer than I expected. For a general to stay alive on /vg/ you need at least one post every 30 minutes with the current speed there, no way a DQ general is going to generate that kind of traffic. Maybe retry when DQ7 comes out in English, but I have a feeling it still won't stay up for looking, unfortunately

>> No.3299773

>>3299616
Whatever happened to /jrpg/? We didn't need to stand on our own when all jrpgs just went to one general.

>> No.3299786

>>3299773
If there's not even enough interest to keep a general JRPG thread up there's certainly not much hope for DQ. That being said, even if it still existed I wouldn't visit it because my interest in RPGs outside of DQ is exactly zero.

>> No.3300246

>>3294259
Having people saying they want the game is a lot different from people actually buying it.

>> No.3300291

>>3299773

It got shitposted to death by Shitagen. I'm not even kidding.

>game gets confirmed for NA release
>spoiler spam
>game gets confirmed for no NA release
>"HAH WOW ENGLISH-ONLY PEASANTS WILL NEVER PLAY THIS MASTERPIECE" no matter how shit the game actually is
>when nobody is shitposting, the thread would get 1 post per hour

>> No.3300442

>>3300291
>spoiler spam
You mean like Dhoulmagus kills Dumbledore?

>> No.3300456
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3300456

>>3300442

>> No.3301550

Hey guys, I just started playing the SFC remake of DQII.
Have any of you played through Dragon Quest II?
What did you think of it?

>> No.3301594

What are the games in the OP

>> No.3301605

>>3301594
The images are for Dragon Quest Monsters Battle Road II and I and the characters are the protagonists from DQ 1-6 lined up right to left. I'm not completely sure about the rightmost since the hero from 1 usually has a helmet.

>> No.3301619

Is there a Dragon Quest with a really solid story? Lot of the older games feel light in terms of plot, like IX did.

>> No.3301626

>>3301605
That's the new "without armor" look for the hero from 1.
See >>3217675

>> No.3302023

>>3301619
V

>> No.3302157

>>3300246
>>3294190
Why don't they try Kickstarter for translations ?
Are they clueless about the cost ?

>> No.3302676

>>3301550

I completed the first 5 games, and II is the weakest for me.

>> No.3302693

>>3302676
I haven't played II yet, does anything in it compare to IV's "grind a minimum of 5 levels with no quality grinding spots to beat Leon"?

>> No.3302859

Which DQ games use the same engines?

>> No.3302875

>>3302859
II, III, and IV FC/NES use upgraded engines of the previous entry
I-II SFC uses V SFC's engine
III SFC uses VI SFC's engine
IV PS1 uses VII PS1's engine
IV, V, and VI DS use VII PS1's engine
V PS2 reportedly uses a heavily upgraded VII PS1 engine
VII 3DS reportedly uses a heavily upgraded IX engine

>> No.3303203

>>3302875
>V PS2 reportedly uses a heavily upgraded VII PS1 engine
That sounds very unlikely, they don't bear much similarity at all
>VII 3DS reportedly uses a heavily upgraded IX engine
I don't know where you get your reports but that seems like more bullshit. DQ7 3DS uses the Terry's Wonderland 3D engine

>> No.3303212

>>3303203
I got my reports from right here on 4chan, and they didn't sound right to me either.

>> No.3304080
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3304080

And after a long battle filled with spamming cold breath/blistering breath, Psaro goes down.
This isn't my A team here btw (except Maya), everyone died after Kiryl ran out of enough mp to use multiheal and the sage's stone jsut wasn't cutting it. These guys were only here to take the final turn. Alena and Torneko hadn't had their equipment changed since the moment I benched them, yet Alena still got a crit for 177 and Torneko did the final blow for 50 damage.
All that's left is postgame before I head off to DQ I.

>> No.3304112

>>3304080
>benching Alena
You're a monster.

>> No.3304174

>>3304112
It's her fault for having bad defense/armor. Also Ragnar is cooler.

>> No.3304189

>>3304080
Psaro is huge pain in the ass in heroes

like I get that you're supposed to be kiting but it's still frustrating as hell

>> No.3304190

How is the SFC version of DQVI?
I own it and I don't feel like breaking out more money for the DS remake and I heard people shitting on the DQVI sprites on the SFC version.

>> No.3304439

>>3304190
Buggy and incomplete.

>> No.3304598

>>3304439
The game or the translation?

>> No.3304654

>>3304598
I'm guessing the game is buggy compared to the later ports and that the fan translation is incomplete.

>> No.3305057

I know this says up to VII, but I'm wondering if I should restart IX. Only one file so I'd lose all my cool shit but I'd get to go around again, maybe do a solo run.

>> No.3305080

>>3305057
A lot of people didn't like IX so they'd tell you otherwise, but if you liked it, go for it.
>I know this says up to VII
It's not as if there's anywhere else on this site to discuss Dragon Quest, unless you went and made a /v/ thread.

>> No.3305142
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3305142

How would you describe the meaning of DQ1 in Japan?
Is it the generic video game?

>> No.3305220

>>3305142
Dragon Quest is the Japanese image of "JRPG" just as Final Fantasy VII is the English image.

"Generic" isn't the word I would use, but I suppose that, yes, it works well enough. Kids these days don't really know DQ too well. Super Mario, Pokemon, Yo-kai Watch, and Minecraft are the games I hear them talk about most often. Not that it isn't popular--it is. Kids just don't have instant access to all the DQ games on their current consoles.

You are watching anime that caters to NEETs and otakus, a demographic that would very likely be familiar with DQ.

>> No.3305236

I can't stand what they've done to the DQ1 hero. He looks so stupid now

>> No.3305242

>>3304654
Like I said, I have the original cart. I'm not doing a fan translation. How is the original SFC version buggy?

>> No.3305340

>>3217574
Badass games. Me and a buddy were breeding monsters for us to both get super monsters, but then he accidentally selected the wrong monster and we both got shit monsters I was pissed and stopped playing altogether

>> No.3305527

>>3217574
>tfw you have your original copy but it no longer saves

I need to emulate this

>> No.3305637

>>3305527
You can change the battery, it's pretty easy.

The only bad thing, is that your old save is already dead.

>> No.3305887
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>DQVII and VIII on the same day
September is going to be a hell of a month.

>> No.3305891

>>3304174
Alena is a tiny tank

>> No.3305908
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>>3305887
it's real

lolwut

>> No.3305921

>>3305908
>T gets censored again
damnit, Nintendo

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>>3305887
>>3305908
looks like a mistake, 7 is listed as being out on december 31st

>> No.3306003

>>3305931
Did amazon mix up the dates, maybe?

>> No.3306350

>>3306003
This. The dumbasses don't even have a page up for physical copies anymore and the digital page has Twilight Princess' description.

>> No.3306440

And that's it, bump limit reached.

>> No.3307560

New thread?

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