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Anonymous Tue Nov 1 22:45:59 2016 No.3595761 [Reply] [Original]

What gave this such a retro feel?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 1 22:47:08 2016 No.3595763 I don't know but it doesn't get any more retro than classic nintendo

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 1 22:49:48 2016 No.3595765 >>3595761 This thread is so old it's getting a retro feel of its own.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 1 22:55:09 2016 No.3595772 I find everything earlier than Dreamcast has a retro feel because consoles were analog. Dreamcast sort of has it but it was only a hybrid style analog console which is why I think it is still allowed on this board

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 1 23:21:58 2016 No.3595803 File: 4 KB, 250x188, 1466909050466.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3595772

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 1 23:31:43 2016 No.3595809 >>3595761 The fact that it's an old game which influenced other old games??

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 1 23:41:23 2016 No.3595823 >>3595772 This pretty much. Once consoles went digital in the GameCube era things went downhill. Only analog consoles have 0 lag which just gives it that feel when you play.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 1 23:42:41 2016 No.3595826 >>3595772 What the fuck are you talking about?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 1 23:49:57 2016 No.3595836 >>3595826 shhhh, close your eyes and take in that sweet retro feel

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 1 23:51:26 2016 No.3595840 >>3595826 Consoles losing their retro feel once they switched from analog. First time on vr, underager?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 1 23:53:27 2016 No.3595843 File: 7 KB, 198x341, 1449895802251.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3595823 >>3595840 I can't even tell what's bait any more

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 00:32:32 2016 No.3595890 >>3595843 Bait or 6th-gen underage b&.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 09:27:44 2016 No.3596308 File: 42 KB, 640x480, tmp_596-1450933587852-262876200.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3595761 >What gave this such a retro feel?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 09:36:17 2016 No.3596318 >>3595772 This. In SNES era, you got true analog cartridges. They needed to burn in for some time though. Then you'd get the true retro feel.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 09:39:56 2016 No.3596323 File: 33 KB, 500x669, dog sick of your shit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3595761 > It's that thread again

Anonymous Wed Nov 2 10:56:53 2016 No.3596412

>>3595761

Is it weird if I think this game has shitty controls? In comparison to Zelda 1, it controls like shit. The fact that you can move diagonal but the sword can only swing in 4 directions, makes it so that you often don't get the intended angle of your attacks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 11:00:45 2016 No.3596416 >>3596412 Fedora's curse.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 11:18:25 2016 No.3596431 >>3595761 OMG this was my favorite game when I was a kid! It was so fun running around and exploring Zeldas yard in the rain. One time my cousin got really far and found a church, I think he maybe beat it but he forgot to save

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 11:29:34 2016 No.3596450 >>3595761 Because when you think of Zelda, this is what comes to mind. Hyrule here is just very enchanting. It nails that pastoral/church-like feeling.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 12:25:07 2016 No.3596543 File: 22 KB, 500x333, 1476400507303.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3595772

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 13:29:32 2016 No.3596625 >>3595761 It's probably the artificial difficulty. That's why it hasn't aged well, imo.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 2 14:26:12 2016 No.3596719 >>3596625 What is artificial about the difficulty in ALttP?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 3 00:16:08 2016 No.3597705 >>3595763 Pretty sure classic Atari is even more retro than classic Ninteno, as well as a few other consoles and computers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 3 00:29:21 2016 No.3597718 Thauck That satisfying noise of turning on your SNES and playing this game...

Anonymous Thu Nov 3 00:39:33 2016 No.3597730

>>3596412
>Is it weird if I think this game has shitty controls? In comparison to Zelda 1, it controls like shit.
Actually it's very weird especially when it controls far far better than LoZ which had annoying rotate and alignment whereas LttP just turned and did what you wanted it to do without trying to run all over the place and fucking with position/alignment or being delayed as well as the ability to move diagonally and smooth turning.

>makes it so that you often don't get the intended angle of your attacks.
Quite the opposite, it makes it so you pretty much always get the right angle of attack once you learn how your sword swings from top to bottom if you're facing left or right and from left to right if your facing up and right to left if you're facing down and that never varies. It also hits directly in front of you at the same speed no matter what so it's always a front attack as well. In other words, you always get the intended angle of attack if you're not retarded trying to do an attack that you have no reason to think could happen and the game has never demonstrated would happen and would otherwise be retarded since the sprite clearly is never pointing diagonally in any manner. So you have a perfectly static non changing pattern that you can apply in any situation that's reliable and predictable once you stop being bad at games.

The difference between the two quirks is that LoZ's quirk makes it handle objectively worse for responsiveness and fluidness no matter what, whereas LttP's still manages to handle fluidly and works perfectly if you're not functionally retarded.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 3 00:40:24 2016 No.3597734 >>3596719 Random puzzles, random sword damage, random enemy placement, you name it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 3 00:42:20 2016 No.3597736 File: 122 KB, 625x833, capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3595772 >>3597734

Anonymous Thu Nov 3 01:56:49 2016 No.3597793

I've been trying to finally finish this game. The last time I tried to, got stuck in the dungeon on top of Death Mountain and slowly lost the will to keep playing it.
I'm rescuing the elders in the dark world now. Got 3 so far.

I've got to agree with what this anon said >>3596412 Sometimes you swing your sword in the wrong direction or the enemies stay too close to you when you have your iframes on and they keep walking inside your sprite so you can't hit them. Attacking also completely stops any other movement and locks you in that position for too long, making you an easy as fuck target and unable to evade or do anything at all until the attack animation is over. Also sometimes right after either attacking or rotating your input doesn't register properly so you have to mash the button or directional pad two or three times.
I've caught myself wasting lots of arrows and hitting walls because Link didn't change directions like I wanted.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 3 02:23:25 2016 No.3597823 >>3595772 By this logic, I could hook up an Xbox 360 to a CRT to make it "analog" and have it feel retro.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 3 02:49:38 2016 No.3597841 >>3597793 >rescuing the elders Maidens?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 3 02:52:57 2016 No.3597847 >>3597841 Woops yeah, one of my friends called them elders once and it sticked to me.

Anonymous Thu Nov 3 03:06:15 2016 No.3597859

>>3597793
>Also sometimes right after either attacking or rotating your input doesn't register properly so you have to mash the button or directional pad two or three times. I've caught myself wasting lots of arrows and hitting walls because Link didn't change directions like I wanted.

My brain just exploded.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 3 08:23:35 2016 No.3598082 >>3597734 Yes, all the trial-and-error gameplay really brings it down.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 3 09:19:39 2016 No.3598145 this is going to sound dumb, but why does Link look so FAT in this game? his sprite looks like complete ass.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 3 10:10:52 2016 No.3598185 File: 2 KB, 100x100, tmp_8534-f6d-231356938.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3596625 >artificial difficulty

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 3 15:50:42 2016 No.3598527 It's just because the game came out before we were born or just small kids.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 4 06:35:31 2016 No.3599864 >>3597793 >Attacking also completely stops any other movement and locks you in that position for too long The only Zelda that doesn't do that is Zelda II.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 4 06:43:30 2016 No.3599875 >>3598145 Because when you're twelve years old and you're the most powerful motherfucker in the universe you need some place to store that power.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 4 17:55:29 2016 No.3600734 >>3597730 Being able to move in a lot of directions, but only being able to attack in 4, is objectively bad controls.

Anonymous Fri Nov 4 17:58:51 2016 No.3600746
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>>3600734
Why do you need to swing diagonally when you can easily position yourself with movement?
It's hardly "bad" controls.
I've never had a problem with the game in this respect.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 4 18:11:26 2016 No.3600781 >>3595761 This is one of the few old games that DOESN'T have the "retro feel". To be fair, the SNES was very graphics-oriented, so it's library tends to serve as a bridge between the "retro" and the "modern" within the realm of pre-3D gaming.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 4 20:29:58 2016 No.3601015 File: 44 KB, 460x362, no one will read.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3595772

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 4 23:01:48 2016 No.3601206 >>3595761 It's almost like it actually IS retro.

Anonymous Sat Nov 5 01:07:22 2016 No.3601345

>>3600746
goddamn, this art is cool. found tons more here if anyone is interested:
http://www.slightlywarped.com/crapfactory/curiosities/2013/november/legend_of_zelda.htm
and I agree that this game has a certain unique feel that I can't really put my finger on. I never even played it until 2007 or 2008 either, so it's not exactly nostalgia. but I absolutely loved this game from the first time I played it. maybe it's the midis, the dark world theme was an instant classic for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BStjuHfP238
even being kind of a creepy song that makes me feel slightly on edge, it still manages to have a warm kind of feel. speaking of warm, this is the shit right here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDJXXQjXXoY

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 01:49:46 2016 No.3601378 A Link To The Past? More like, Gay To The Max

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 01:56:05 2016 No.3601381 >>3595761 I love seeing Alttp fanboys getting trolled Doing gods work anon

Anonymous Sat Nov 5 05:28:06 2016 No.3601512

>>3600746

For me, the controls create a basic disconnect. Because Link can move diagnolly, it seems like he should be able to attack in that direction as well. I found Zelda 1 much more intuitive; in ALttP, I found I was constantly not getting the intended angle of my attacks. Maybe this is because I played Zelda 1 A LOT before I started ALttP, and I was so used to it.

When I play ALttP now, I find I try to move diagnolly as little as possible. It seems to help orient my attacks. I don't know why I have a problem; feels like no one else does

>>3601345

Thanks for the link! that art is amazing

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 06:31:16 2016 No.3601565 The bosses in this game are fucking hard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 09:07:15 2016 No.3601704 >>3595761 The answer is nostalgia.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 15:53:25 2016 No.3602231 >>3601512 That's why they added the spin attack. So you could attack in those diagonal directions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 18:39:15 2016 No.3602495 >>3596412 i agree it has shitty controls but for different reasons. R as the 'pick up stuff' button feels so much more natural but fsr the game doesn't make use of the shoulder buttons at all. glad the gba version fixed it at least

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 18:40:50 2016 No.3602498 >>3596625 the only artificial difficulty i can recall is breaking the door to the theives hideout. and even then that was moreso just contrived than it was unfair

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 5 18:43:36 2016 No.3602504 File: 61 KB, 500x357, tumblr_m80fo5xx3t1qgrncno1_500.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3595761 the gameboy/color games have a much better retro feel imo. there's this comfy magic to them that i can't really describe

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