Swallow the pill

[Anonymous No.5878046]

Keyboard is better for 2D gaming than controllers.
There is literally zero loss in precision compared to a d-pad, and it's a hundred times more comfortable.
If you're using an emulator and a controller, unless you're playing 3D games that require a joystick's precision, you're just a moron.

[Anonymous No.5878067]

Arcade stick is superior to either.

[Anonymous No.5878070]

Problem with keyboards is you get instant access to quicksave, quickload keys. Always hated how emulators will set unbindable hotkeys to page up, delete, insert, etc.

[Anonymous No.5878075]

I mean it's fine for 4th gen and below but if you're planning on trying out anything after that specially Chinese PC ports just get a goddamn joystick dude, it's cheap and will save you so much trouble in the long run. Try playing Oratorio Tangram on keyboard and tell me it doesn't make you wanna kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.5878080]

Meh. I can use both and it's really only a matter of what you're used to. People saying 'you can't play platformers with a keyboard, you must have a controller!' are retards though, and I almost never hear that crap from those preferring keyboards. Yeah, you've played games with a controller your whole life, you can't use a keyboard on the same level, no shit.

[Anonymous No.5878083]

>>5878046
>and it's a hundred times more comfortable.
That's, like, your opinion man.

[Anonymous No.5878084]

>>5878067
mechanical keyboard is better than arcade stick, what say you to that?

[Anonymous No.5878086]

>>5878084
How much is mechanical keyboard, 150$? Way to kill the cost benefit of keyboards over joysticks, might as well buy a cheap used Xbox360 pad.
The only interesting aspect of mechanical keyboards is the anti-ghosting capability which varies wildly depending on the brand, something you have for free on pads.

[Anonymous No.5878087]

>>5878080
>I almost never hear that crap from those preferring keyboards
It's considered heresy to play an FPS with a controller.

[Anonymous No.5878093]

>>5878080
Elaborating, To do a dashing weapon3 attack on virtual on you need to press
>X (left dash) or Y (right dash)
>L + R (wpn1+wpn2)
All while holding a diagonal direction so that's 2 extra keys you have to hold,
Technically possible on keyboard if you work around ghosted keys but have fun with that.

[Anonymous No.5878113]

>>5878046
I don't know man it just feels "wrong", you're wrong and your opinion is shit.

[Anonymous No.5878120]

>>5878086
I've used the same mechanical for 10 years and it cost me 75 bucks. You have options just like you do with arcade sticks, ie. you could spend hundreds for a top of the line qanba. Mechanical KB also has more than just a stick and 8 buttons, and you can use it with a mouse for PC games or just for typing/work/etc where the arcade stick's main advantage is you can use it on consoles, assuming you get a model for each console or build in that one custom adapter and fabricate cords for every relevant system you want.

Arcade sticks are good too, but a keyboard is basically just a superior arcade stick in its definition. Use case for arcade stick where keyboard is inferior are, as pointed out, limited to special circumstances. Ultimately you should make your decision based on what your use case is, but surely you can't deny that for the uses available, a mechanical keyboard will outperform an arcade stick.

[Anonymous No.5878121]

pad is probably better for any hori shmups where you have to quickly alternate between moving up and down
regardless, the biggest factors in performance are the time spent with a given device and the quality of the device
>>5878086
got an decent 108-key one for $25 on clearance

[Anonymous No.5878124]

pad is probably better for any hori shmups where you have to quickly alternate between moving up and down
regardless, the biggest factors in performance are the time spent with a given device and the quality of the device
>>5878086
got a decent 108-key one for $25 on clearance

[Anonymous No.5878127]

It's too bad OP we could have had a nice thread about using keyboards for retro gaming, something I really enjoy, but you had to make this a bait thread since you need attention that badly. So for that I will tell you to fuck off.

[Anonymous No.5878135]

pad is probably better for any hori shmups where you have to quickly alternate between moving up and down
regardless, the biggest factors in performance are the time spent with a given device and the quality of the device
>>5878086
got a decent 104-key one for $25 on clearance

[Anonymous No.5878136]

>>5878120
I understand your point and all but I don't really care about any of the ergonomics benefits of a mechanical keyboard. I don't think a 75 dollar keyboard has decent anti-ghosting either.

[Anonymous No.5878152]

>>5878136
Mine is n-key rollover so no ghosting at all. Only bother with it is that I opted for blue switches, which is only annoying now as I start to play games with voice chat a little more. I don't think I'll be able to convince you as you seem stubborn like the other people who argue about their love of controllers/keyboards/etc. so I'm exiting. Just letting you know there are worlds of options, so don't hold yourself back for your own stubbornness. That goes to anybody here who perched on one option and spurns the rest.

[Anonymous No.5878192]

>>5878152
Maybe it's an american thing because the mechanical keyboards I find in my shithole cunt only have anti-ghoting in the arrows plus qwe, asd, zxc keys. Tough shit for me I guess.

[Anonymous No.5878202]

>>5878046
>keyboards are better than controllers for 2D games
... I've seen a lot of boards over a long span of time but the posters here are on aggregate the most out of touch and devoid of taste. Gamefaqs, resetera, retro subreddits? No, you lose this battle, give up; /vr/ reigns supreme.

[Anonymous No.5878249]

The worst thing about pc gamers is that they never shut up about their pc.

[Anonymous No.5878410]

>>5878046
Keyboard is not comfortable on my lap sitting in a recliner.

[Anonymous No.5878458]

>>5878046
Not for fighting games, dolt.

[Anonymous No.5878467]

As someone who refuses to play shooters on anything but a keyboard and mouse this is dumb

[Anonymous No.5878490]

What an awful, /v/-tier argument thread.

[Anonymous No.5878495]

>>5878046
>Need three hands to use all the buttons on an N64
>need twenty hands to use all the buttons on a keyboard

[Anonymous No.5878505]

I used to play competitive NHL 94 on keyboard so. Yeah.

[Anonymous No.5878506]

>>5878046
controller preference is so obviously subjective that I always feel that anyone who willingly enters such a debate must simply want to troll

[Anonymous No.5879084]

>>5878087
Right, I meant for 2d games, platformers, that sort of thing.

[Anonymous No.5879112]

[Anonymous No.5879312]

>>5878046
>compared to a d-pad, and it's a hundred times more comfortable.
Counterpoint: Landstalker. Every person who has played this game on a keyboard first has complained about the controls. There is nothing wrong with the controls, you just need the right tool for the job and a keyboard ain't it.

[Anonymous No.5879474]

>>5878046
I can't stand using arrows or WASD in replacement of a D-pad for 2D sidescrollers. I prefer a keyboard for modern games, but for old console stuff, controller all the way.

[Anonymous No.5879512]

>>5878046
Try doing a Crack Shoot in the earlier Fatal Fury games on a keyboard lmao.

[Anonymous No.5879523]

>>5878080
I played through Jazz Jackrabbit 2 with a keyboard when I was a kid just fine, but going back to it now it feels akward

[Anonymous No.5879529]

>>5878046
I'm not going to argue the fact that it can be more precise, but not using a dpad doesn't feel comfy at all.

[Anonymous No.5879536]

>>5878152
Mx clears are amazing, tactile yet not clicky. Worth looking into.

[Anonymous No.5879601]

>>5878458
>>5879512
>muh fightan
aren't those hitbox controllers banned now because of the retarded advantage they give? why would a keyboard be different

[Anonymous No.5879621]

>>5879474
>>5879312
Use the tenkey for directions.

[Anonymous No.5879623]

Imagine thinking that a keyboard (an object designed for typing, because it is based on a typewriter) is more comfortable than a device purpose designed for videogames. Enjoy your tendonitis, I guess.

[Anonymous No.5879637]

>>5879623
Controllers are designed to be held in a hand so you can play from a chair or couch.
A keyboard is designed to send many different signals as quickly as possible.
Note how one allows you to use all your fingers while the other is restricted to your thumbs and possibly index fingers.

[Anonymous No.5879805]

>>5878249
does it anger you because you don't understand what anyones talking about when we discuss high framerates, user choice and accurate input

[Anonymous No.5880029]

>>5878046

[ !Codeine.pA No.5881432]

>>5878046
Can I use it on my couch? I sit in front of a computer all day for work, fuck coming home and doing that shit.

Same reason real-time (as in not turn based) games generally suck.

[Anonymous No.5881452]

>>5878046
>it's a hundred times more comfortable.
fuck no, spacebar jumping cramps the fuck out of my thumb

[Anonymous No.5881485]

>>5881452
>spacebar jumping
Not Z,X master race.

[Anonymous No.5881490]

>>5878067
FPBP

[Anonymous No.5881543]

>>5878046
>100 times for comfortable
you can't tell anyone what is more comfortable for them fuck you mr presumptuous

[Anonymous No.5881749]

Ctrl-F "wrist"
>zero results
the reason why you use gamepads is because they are a vaccine against carpal tunnel syndrome.

[Anonymous No.5881756]

>>5881749
Can you cite a medical study on that subject?

[Anonymous No.5882490]

Why are there still reddit tier pc master race retards in 2019?

[Anonymous No.5882774]

I can use both pretty much equally, even with 3D games I can adapt, I beat a Kingdom Hearts game on an emulator with a keyboard and few problems, just use what you prefer

[Anonymous No.5882978]

>>5878086
>might as well buy a cheap used XBOX 360 CONTROLLER
i dont think you even understand why keyboard and stick are better then any controller/pad.

[Anonymous No.5883005]

>>5878046
I have spent a long time playing Wing Commander 2 and X-Wing with the tactile+clicky "space invaders" keys but I read they are much better with flight sticks. I would say that it was fine for even some games like Star Control 2 and Civilization, but some games I would say are enhanced by their unique control scheme. I would rather play DDR with a dance mat rather than a keyboard. The Virtual On twinsticks are inefficient compared to a 360 controller, but I prefer playing it with the twinsticks. Samba De Amigo is a better experience with the Maracas controllers than with a keyboard. Punchmania is not as fun without the mechanical pads. Light guns are still great fun that cannot be replicated with a keyboard-mapped controls. I would say it depends on the game and person what controller is better. I've played a lot of Wolf3D and Doom with the keyboard, even some platformers like Halloween Harry with it, but sometimes control pads work better.

[Anonymous No.5883025]

>>5883005
>youth
I'm writing this on my first Model M from 1986. I own 8 now. I never found a better keyboard.

[Anonymous No.5883039]

>>5878410
>what is a 60% or 70% wireless keyboard?

>>5878495
>why would I need more than 8 keys when playing a genesis game?

>>5881452
what sort of shitboard do you have?

>>5878458
they are fucking fantastic for fighting games for pulling off moves.

[Anonymous No.5883104]

>>5883005
>>5883025

I've wanted a Model M forever but I read that they have a slight delay because of how the keys work and aren't ideal for competitive multiplayer so I'm hesistating and might go with a modern mechanical, I need a keyboard thst isn't full of rotten spaghetti sauce like yesterday...

[Anonymous No.5883397]

>>5878046
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[Anonymous No.5883567]

>>5878046
get some new metaphors plz

[Anonymous No.5883703]

>>5883104
Get a sample of cherry switches and try out which type you prefer.
I eventually got a Raptor Gaming ( a rebranded compact Cherry) with black switches for €35.