ITT: /vr/ red pills

[Anonymous No.5912385]

>Saturn emulation is good now (mednafen)
>doesn't matter because Saturn was shit
>shaders do color correction that the developers intended
>CRTs have .5 to 1.5 frames of delay for interlacing correction

[Anonymous No.5912417]

When will you take the brown pill though?

[Anonymous No.5912427]

>>5912385

[Anonymous No.5912431]

>shmups good

[Anonymous No.5912439]

fuck off with your alt right terms

[Anonymous No.5912452]

>>5912439
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T DEVIATE FROM THE PROGRESSIVE STATUS QUO!

[Anonymous No.5912453]

>>5912439
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWfh0OuTKKE

[Anonymous No.5912464]

>>5912385
>shaders do color correction that the developers intended
This is 100% true and only brainlets who are incapable of configuring RetroArch would argue otherwise.

[Anonymous No.5912471]

>>5912427
I have that big box Earthbound with the guide or whatever, sealed. I got it a long time ago but my friend already had it and I borrowed it instead of opening mine. Same story with some FF, MGS, etc... I hope it's worth something? I will never sell it though, probably never even take it out of storage. The true 'Redpill' for people who like to LARP as collectors making 'investments' is that you are most likely never going to sell your stuff, and selling your own property to make money is for people desperate for money who make poor life decisions. Yes there are people who can 'flip' things, but they are few and far between the people who just horde shit forever, get mold and humidity damage, have their shit burn down, have their shit stolen, just plain lose their shit, etc...

[Anonymous No.5912475]

>>5912385
>CRTs have .5 to 1.5 frames of delay for interlacing correction

What the fuck is interlacing correction?

[Anonymous No.5912478]

>>5912464
>Retroarch
>Calling others brainlets

[Anonymous No.5912615]

>>5912385
>only zoomers say red pill
>zoomers are retarded and therefore irrelevant

[Anonymous No.5912623]

/vr/ have at least 25% /v/ tier crap threads right now, imagine the storm of shit if someday they oficially let the kids from 6th gen get in

[Anonymous No.5912625]

mednafen sounds like some shitty medication that doesnt work and gives you erectile dysfunction and bad shits

[Anonymous No.5912672]

>The first Bubsy game isn't bad at all

[Anonymous No.5912676]

Mednafen isn't good, only fanboys of an emulator (they exist) think this.

[Anonymous No.5912703]

>>5912385
>"Saturn emulation is good now"
the fuck are you even talking about dude lol? what? mednafen doesn't require you to do taxing 4-8 hours worth of random trial and error just to get an iso actually running? why do people even shill this crap. i emulated panzer dragoon and xmen vs street fighter and they played like complete dog shit.

actual red pill /vr/ truths though?
>Chrono Trigger wouldn't be highly rated if there were no dual/triple techs
>Final Fantasy 4 is a better game than Final Fantasy 6, and Final Fantasy 6 is a better game than Final Fantasy 7, and Final Fantasy 8 is better than FF7.
>The genesis is meant to be played in Composite, nothing else, no arguement.
>The genesis is near worthless besides three games which are: Rocket Knight Adventures, Comix Zone, Streets of Rage 2.
>SNES is meant to be played in 4:3 not 8:7
>Yoshi's Island is greatly praised due to its tight controls, mechanics, and physics, not its actual gameplay and stage design/progression
>Megaman X 6 > X 5
>The battle stations posted on this forum are not from the people that upload them.
>SCV4 > SOTN > Bloodlines > CV3 > CV1
>1.6 was terrible
>Street Fighter Alpha 3 is a bad fighting game but still somehow better then 3S. 3S is praised now only because of hype that came off of Daigo's full parry and would not be popular today if that didn't happen. People that are actually decent at the game know this; its one of the most boring FGs to play at an intermediate level due to the amount of reads you have to prep yourself for. it is a very slow game and not as action packed as spectators might think.

[Anonymous No.5912704]

>>5912703
Redpill is the new buzzword for completely retarded bullshit.

[Anonymous No.5912705]

>>5912704
prove me wrong on any point, thanks!

[Anonymous No.5912710]

the ultimate redpill: having bought all the /vr/ consoles and games back in the 70s/80s/90s and don't give a shit about zoomers complaining about ebay prices or collectors

[Anonymous No.5912713]

>>5912703
>SCV4 > SOTN > Bloodlines > CV3 > CV1
this except in reverse

[Anonymous No.5912720]

>>5912703
>Chrono Trigger wouldn't be highly rated if there were no dual/triple techs
Are you stupid? Do you seriously think that the dual/triple techs are the only reason the game is highly rated?
>The genesis is near worthless besides three games which are: Rocket Knight Adventures, Comix Zone, Streets of Rage 2.
>not its actual gameplay and stage design/progression
>Megaman X 6 > X 5
>Street Fighter Alpha 3 is a bad fighting game but still somehow better then 3S. 3S is praised now only because of hype that came off of Daigo's full parry and would not be popular today if that didn't happen. People that are actually decent at the game know this; its one of the most boring FGs to play at an intermediate level due to the amount of reads you have to prep yourself for. it is a very slow game and not as action packed as spectators might think.
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.5912728]

>>5912703
I don’t know how it would take you that long to setup mednafen. It isn’t that complicated. If it is for you there’s also the mednafen Saturn core in retro arch. I’m sorry you’re a “red pilled” retard who can’t setup an emulator and play your video games. So you come on here and shit on everyone else’s enjoyment instead.

[Anonymous No.5912730]

>>5912713
Not really reverse, more like
CV1>CV3>CV4>BL
SOTN isn't even the same genre.

[Anonymous No.5912736]

>>5912385
This thread sucks, just as OP

[Anonymous No.5912750]

Most games aren't worth the money they cost now.
Not everyone who has a good collection had to spend out the ass for games, many have decent libraries from when the games were cheap and from back when they were just old junk.
1CCs don't count unless you do them on original hardware.
There are countless undumped games and prototypes still in existence which will never be dumped.
The majority of females interested in retrogames are transgendered.
If you see a now popular opinion that seems incongruous with what used to be the popular opinion, there's probably an eceleb to blame.
Similar to the above, ecelebs have alarming control over the discourse regarding and interest in certain old games, and with one video can have a devastating impact on the market price of whichever game they talk about.
Similar to above two, when buying and discussing old games, you are competing against and dealing with people whose nearly entire decision making and general thinking process is dictated by YouTube talking heads. MetalJesus is their Jesus, and there's nothing you can do about it.

[Anonymous No.5912754]

>>5912703
>mednafen doesn't require you to do taxing 4-8 hours worth of random trial and error just to get an iso actually running?
no, you just select the iso and starts playing the game

[Anonymous No.5912756]

Most games aren't worth the money they cost now.
Not everyone who has a good collection had to spend out the ass for games, many have decent libraries from when the games were new and from back when they were just old junk.
1CCs don't count unless you do them on original hardware.
There are countless undumped games and prototypes still in existence which will never be dumped.
The majority of females interested in retrogames are transgendered.
If you see a now popular opinion that seems incongruous with what used to be the popular opinion, there's probably an eceleb to blame.
Similar to the above, ecelebs have alarming control over the discourse regarding and interest in certain old games, and with one video can have a devastating impact on the market price of whichever game they talk about.
Similar to above two, when buying and discussing old games, you are competing against and dealing with people whose nearly entire decision making and general thinking process is dictated by YouTube talking heads. MetalJesus is their Jesus, and there's nothing you can do about it.

[Anonymous No.5912781]

>>5912756
>1CCs don't count unless you do them on original hardware.
Why not

[Anonymous No.5912797]

>>5912781
Imagine being this dumb that you have to ask this.

[Anonymous No.5912948]

[Anonymous No.5912967]

Between an N64 or PS1 multiplat game, the N64 version is better 90% of the time.

[Anonymous No.5912970]

>M-uh saturn emulation muh shaders, c-crts have more input lag!!
These aren't red pills, there are ways you cope with not having real hardware and a crt to play on.

[Anonymous No.5912974]

>>5912967
This isn't a secret and anyone with a functional brain will figure out that a system released in 1996 will be better than one released in 1994.
But behold the Sonyggers getting triggered and using the CD-ROM card, as if FMVs and Redbook audio means anything when it comes to video games.

[Anonymous No.5912978]

>>5912452
>He thinks the status-quo is progressive instead of incredibly neo-liberal

[Anonymous No.5912984]

>>5912705
All of your "points" are broad subjective statements, or counterfactuals. None of them are "points", and none of them can be proved or disproved.

[Anonymous No.5912992]

>>5912967
Imagine being a console wars faggot for a mediocre game that has a superior PC and Dreamcast version anyway. For PS and 64 you had over 20 years to either buy, emulate or find a friend who had either one, time to move on.

[Anonymous No.5913002]

The N64 is actually a pretty good system that gets shitted on a lot.

[Anonymous No.5913007]

>>5913002
That's just normal, drug-free thinking. Hating the N64 requires heavy, sustained intake of blue pills.

[Anonymous No.5913043]

>>5912475
This might be a reference to how player input is synced to the v-blank on crts. It's not instantaneous like some purport, but it's faster than most modern displays

[Anonymous No.5913050]

>>5913002
Replace 'N64' with any retro games platform and you get over half of the posts on this board. That's just how underage shitpost.
While I do miss some genres on it I do have to admit that the classics on it are still as entertaining as they used to be: racing in F-Zero X or shooting in Goldeneye never gets old in my book.

[Anonymous No.5913053]

>>5913050
>>5913002
the thing with N64 is that it doesn't emulate perfectly. And even if there are ways to emulate decently, some games require some individual plug in tweaking.
Zoomers get immediately mad because of this, so if emulation for a system isn't easy or instant = the system sucks.
Also console warriors, but those are more general, including Nintendo console warriors.

[Anonymous No.5913054]

>>5912781
Look at his previous point, he has no skill so he replaces it with a collection of plastic and anecdotes about being "good" back in the day. Ironically probably plays butchered ports because they had physical releases

[Anonymous No.5913069]

>>5912385
>Interlacing Correction
>240p
Uhh, alright then. Not claiming CRTs have 0 lag but this is fucking stupid.

[Anonymous No.5913079]

>>5913050
In regards to retro-gaming (or atleast the popular systems), I see the N64 getting shat on the most, either for the small library or the "aged poorly" argument.

[Anonymous No.5913082]

>>5913053
I really doubt this, I believe it is more likely because games for n64 aged poorly in general...

[Anonymous No.5913096]

using projectors for retro games introduces lag because of the length of time it takes the light to cross the room and hit the screen

[Anonymous No.5913138]

>>5913096
It would always take more time to go through the tv though. Both are 3x10^8 m/s in theory but the tv is an imperfect conductor and the electromagnetic current has to be converted to light.

[Anonymous No.5913183]

>>5912385
>interlacing correction
CRTs are natively interlaced though, they require no deinterlacing or any other decoding circuitry. Besides which 95% of games before 6th gen ran at 240p anyways.

[Anonymous No.5913217]

>>5912703
>Chrono Trigger wouldn't be highly rated if there were no dual/triple techs
Hmmm, Inclined to agree there. Without that it would've been pretty shitty
>Final Fantasy 4 is a better game than Final Fantasy 6, and Final Fantasy 6 is a better game than Final Fantasy 7, and Final Fantasy 8 is better than FF7.
ahhh I see you are a 6fag. At least you admit that 4 is the better game.
>Megaman X 6 > X 5
This is a redpill? I thought it was a very straight forward answer. Though it's arguable, X6 has some pretty bullshit stuff going on in there.
>The battle stations posted on this forum are not from the people that upload them.
anyone who fell for it lacks braincells
>SCV4 > SOTN > Bloodlines > CV3 > CV1
CV1 is better than CV3

[Anonymous No.5913324]

>>5912967
As much as I love PSX. This is true.

[Anonymous No.5913356]

>>5913054
>reeeee

[Anonymous No.5913545]

Console warring over retro consoles makes you a fucking loser

[Anonymous No.5913885]

>>5913545
Doesn't make you wrong though. SNES is slow as shit.

[Anonymous No.5913982]

>>5912385
>doesn't matter because Saturn was shit

[Anonymous No.5914112]

>>5913545
hes right you know

[Anonymous No.5914129]

>>5912703
>comix zone worth playing
listen to this cunt

[Anonymous No.5914137]

>>5912385
fuck off with your alt-right terms
And fuck mods for trying to censor me

[Anonymous No.5914210]

RPGs hitting the mainstream globally in the late 90's with stuff like FFVII and Pokémon was the biggest factor in the rise of modern game design where every single player game made by any company except for indie ones seems to be mandated by law to require a narrative focus and some sort of progression system, no matter the genre
thus, the very existence of /vr/ was caused by that event. and the reason this genre is so massively overrepresented here despite only being truly popular for English speakers for a couple of years of this board's legal period is that they're the closest to modern games design-wise thus younger people have a way easier time getting into them than other genres that aren't made by mainstream companies these days but were prevalent in the 20th century

[Anonymous No.5914215]

>>5914210
There's nothing wrong with a narrative focus.

[Anonymous No.5914219]

>>5914215
it's wrong when games without that almost stop being made by all companies except for indie efforts

[Anonymous No.5914232]

>>5914219
If you hate narrative so much, make your own game without one.

[Anonymous No.5914235]

>>5914210

RPG mechanics are susccessful because they're an easy way to give the player a sense that they're improving without having them constantly lose like in arcade games. They also help pad the game out for hours which is something consumers now demand if they're going to put down $60 for a single-player game. The modern game industry's AAA titles all try to be "everything for everyone" because people just aren't willing to shell out money for something that isn't a cinematic narrative experience.

[Anonymous No.5914241]

>>5914235
yep. and it was in the late 90's when these games became massive hits that companies realized that RPG elements meant big bucks. thus, we haven't recovered from that, marking an era shift.
before this it was rare for games to have RPG elements unless they were straight RPGs, other single player genres flourished fine. they all but vanished practically within a few years until indie devs filled that hole a bit later, but it's never been the same.
in turn, this environment has made people demand this particular experience from all their games as you explain since that's all they know (imagine the type that grew up with FFVII/Pokémon, which I imagine is a lot of /vr/).

[Anonymous No.5914242]

Early 3D aged like shit and anything before that with a few exceptions is too simplistic. The PS2 era is the real golden age of video games.

[Anonymous No.5914301]

>>5912427
Holy shit this is perfect

[Anonymous No.5914314]

>>5913043
That's the console/game doing it, not the display.

[Anonymous No.5914425]

>>5912967
>Music, cutscenes, sfx
PS1
>Load times, graphics (9/10 times)
N64

[Anonymous No.5914472]

>>5912703
>why do people even shill this crap.
A lot of retroarch's cores are Mednafen. So when retroshart doesn't work right "because reasons" you should have real Mednafen on standby. Especially if you want to play Turbografx games because retroshart only has the less accurate "fast" version of Mednafen's TG16 emulation.

[Anonymous No.5914506]

>>5912385
>Saturn emulation is good now (mednafen)
hell year time to play Resident Evil saturn version with slightly superior 2D backgrounds but inferior 3D graphics (it's ok though! they're charming in their own way) and zombie sounds that were strangely swapped around (eg, the attack sound is switched with the sound of taking bullets)

[Anonymous No.5914509]

>>5914137
>>>reddit

[Anonymous No.5914520]

>>5914509
>>>/pol/
>>>/r9k/

[Anonymous No.5914529]

>>5912385
If /vr/ thinks everything is shit then nothing is.

[Anonymous No.5914547]

>>5914520
>everything I don't like is /pol/
did you forget to dilate today?

[Anonymous No.5914550]

>>5912431
based

[Anonymous No.5914580]

>>5914547
ORANGE MAN IS GETTING IMPEACHED AND SO ARE YOU. YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE MAKE YOUR TIME. HAHAHA!

[Anonymous No.5914614]

>>5914547
>I shall prove I am not an underage /pol/tard by posting an anti semitic meme and then using /v/-tier buzzwords
Wow, you really owned the libs with that one.

[Anonymous No.5914620]

>>5914614
Quit posting, kike.

[Anonymous No.5914623]

>>5914547
wow so many triggered libs! Whats next? Shooting up a synagogue?

[Anonymous No.5914631]

>>5914623
Not unless there's some unborn babies in there

[Anonymous No.5915149]

>>5912967

I can't see your post because the textures are too blurry

[Anonymous No.5915579]

Most old consoles never interlace except for ps1 and n64 and even then only on specific games or settings.

>>5912623
Honestly theres some early 6th gen id love to be bale to talk about(Max Payne. Serious Sam, DMC1) but I understand its a slippery slope.

[Anonymous No.5915617]

>the developers intended
Every code monkey is a hardware engineer according to /vr/

[Anonymous No.5915646]

>>5913545
i remember him from dream warriors. never saw the matrix. it looked stupid

[Anonymous No.5915649]

>>5914241
'We haven't recovered'... Yeah bro... It's JRPG's that ruined games... Wtf are you on about. Yeah, it's fucking natural people want a sense of progression accomplishments and awards for doing shit, even if they are shallow bullshit. It's used well in good games, and used badly in shit games (fetch quests, grind fests, etc..). The state of your conspiracies... did JRPG's also take down the Twin Towers?

[Anonymous No.5915667]

>>5915649
the problem is the target demographic for these retro games. all those people grew up. the target age has shifted. the trends have changed.

[Anonymous No.5915672]

>>5915649
it's not whether good games stopped being made but rather that you no longer see games without RPG elements which kills variety

[Anonymous No.5915675]

>>5915649
>arguing with shmupfags
lmao

[Anonymous No.5915676]

>>5915672
keep in mind this only applies to big mainstream releases, not indies as I stated several times. just in case

[Anonymous No.5915679]

>>5915675
>bringing shmups up out of nowhere
obsessed as fuck. what's with you and shmup fans?

[Anonymous No.5915689]

>>5915679
What's with your obsession with JRPGs ruining your pathetic industry.

[Anonymous No.5915690]

>>5915672
Yeah but it's not the RPG's fault, if the post I was replying to just meant developers and or the game industry has become repetitive shit I agree, but if it meant the JRPG's or original fans are at fault I disagree.
>>5915667
Yeah, but I would disagree on the market being the same people as in the past. I think many people who grew up around that era also became sick of games, and the only hangers on are people who were always the lowest common denominator who play any hyped up shit. People who actually loved well made JRPG's or games with those elements wouldn't just jump to the shit we have now as it pales in comparison badly. It's like saying RE4 fans followed to all the shit that copied it.

[Anonymous No.5915735]

>>5915690
>not RPG's fault
>all of this happens right after RPGs hit the mainstream
pure coincidence bro
they just gave companies the idea of RPGying everything. it most likely wasn't the intent of RPG devs but that's the effect this all had.

[Anonymous No.5916040]

>>5915617
>implying that there are tards on /vr/

[Anonymous No.5916116]

>>5915617
Considering most games prior to the 90s were written in assembly, they had to know a lot more about the hardware than today's code monkeys

[Anonymous No.5916134]

>>5915735
>implying it wasn't half-life's fault
>implying it was metal gear solid's fault
>implying it wasn't ocarina of time's fault
Nope, it was definitely all ff7

[Anonymous No.5916141]

>>5916134
yeah it wasn't those game's fault that literally everything except some small company has progression systems now. they did contribute to the narrative thing but it was RPGs that had both elements.

[Anonymous No.5916145]

>>5916141
small company stuff*

[Anonymous No.5916150]

>>5915649
it's just the "progress system" autist, he can't help himself, he's just really proud of his progress system theory he feels the need to repeat it in any thread he can, you'll get used to it

[Anonymous No.5916158]

>>5916150
iirc the progress system/jarpig shitposters are a bunch of kids from /vg/ who coordinate their shitposts on discord.

[Anonymous No.5916180]

>>5916150
can't refute it I see
you know this is a redpill due to these reactions and how many refuse to see this truth
or rather they see it but don't mind because they do play games for story and progression so it's not like it matters to them, but for some reason don't like this being exposed

[Anonymous No.5916206]

>>5912385
>Saturn emulation is good now (mednafen)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK0pOXyV9fQ

[Anonymous No.5916216]

>>5916206
Can you name a good game that doesn't work?

[Anonymous No.5916217]

>>5916180
Most people (especially people who were alive back in /vr/ times) have probably played a fair share of both kind of games. Arcade games being more popular (and mainstream, and actually alive) back then. I think the reaction you get from people is more because of your elitist tone, than the content of your posts.
Also you probably get defensive responses from Final Fantasy and other RPG series fans who feel "threatened" by your thoughts, but that's their own fault for being baited.

[Anonymous No.5916224]

>>5916216
>mention game
>you post "no! I said a GOOD game!"

[Anonymous No.5916238]

>>5916217
I don't think FFVII/Pokémon babies liked arcadey games back then. after all this was at the tail end of /vr/'s time. but you bet your ass they're here en masse since it's been 20 years after all, they're around 30 now.
there's no elitism really I didn't have a problem with those games until everything had to become RPGified. I imagine RPG fans would be upset too if things had been the opposite and RPG elements seen as bad and thus never seen in games outside of small indie circles.

[Anonymous No.5916260]

>>5912385
fuck your shitty alt-right terms
x2 now

[Anonymous No.5916287]

>>5912385
fuck your shitty alt-right terms
x3 now

[Anonymous No.5916302]

>it's ok to like both shmups and jrpgs

[Anonymous No.5916306]

>>5916224
Can you name a game that doesn't work?

[Anonymous No.5916326]

>>5916302
t. plays jrpgs 100 times as much as shmups

[Anonymous No.5916330]

>>5916326
I play fighting games and puzzle games the most.

[Anonymous No.5916338]

Requesting again for the progress systems autist to post a single piece of proof he's any good at shooting games.

[Anonymous No.5916339]

>>5916338
based

[Anonymous No.5916352]

>>5916338
desu that doesn't even matter, you can be 100% correct in your claims and a hypocrite at the same time

[Anonymous No.5916359]

>>5916352
That's true.

[Anonymous No.5916361]

>>5916352
>zoomer shit

[Anonymous No.5916363]

>>5916361
Deal with it, old man.

[Anonymous No.5916367]

>>5916361
>not appropriating zoomer shit and ruining it for them
baka senpai

[Anonymous No.5916373]

>>5916363
>>5916367
Talk shit, get hit

[Anonymous No.5916379]

>>5916338
one doesn't need to be good at shooting games to personally prefer games without RPG elements for fun

[Anonymous No.5916412]

Ultima>shmups

[Anonymous No.5916418]

>>5916379
this. jarpig autists just can't accept the fact that there are people who exist that just get turned off whenever a game has LEVEL UP's and other stupid cancerous rpg elements, like how leftists refuse to let anyone be skeptical of climate change.

[Anonymous No.5916420]

>>5916418
Weird analogy but ok

[Anonymous No.5916421]

>>5916418
You can dislike JRPGs, XP systems, whatever, but the problem is you /vg/ kids come into /vr/ RPG threads and shitpost them and fag up the board. Maybe if you fucked off you wouldn't get shitposted back in your dead shmup/arcade threads.

[Anonymous No.5916425]

>>5916421
>come into /vr/ RPG threads and shitpost them and fag up the board
link a single instance

[Anonymous No.5916428]

>>5916421
Which threads are you talking about exactly? Be specific. Granted I don't go to RPG threads much but whenever I looked through them they were free of anti progression system sentiments. The opposite can't be said of arcade threads which are always without fail full of angry shitposters

[Anonymous No.5916429]

>>5916418
You don't just get turned off by it though, you call people that do like those elements jarpig autists. There's a small subset of shmup fans that think playing shmups makes them some kind of ubermensch for whatever reason. I don't understand the elitism, you don't see it as much from fans of other arcade genres. Maybe it's because it's not uncommon for people to misunderstand and dismiss shmups, making some fans overly defensive.

[Anonymous No.5916435]

>>5916429
>You don't just get turned off by it though
oh but I do. lmao are you such a progressfag you can't even imagine this being possible

[Anonymous No.5916436]

>>5916435
Why are you so mad about this?

[Anonymous No.5916439]

>>5916435
nevermind I missed the just part

[Anonymous No.5916442]

>>5916436
maybe you should stop assuming people you dislike are the same exact poster from some other thread because shmups were brought up by you

[Anonymous No.5916443]

>>5916442
this, rent free

[Anonymous No.5916445]

>>5916442
Check the chain of replies
>>5916379
>>5916338

[Anonymous No.5916449]

>>5916445
it proves what I said

[Anonymous No.5916451]

>red pill
>zoomer / alt right

[Anonymous No.5916456]

>>5916449
It proves shmups were brought up elsewhere in the thread. Not everything is about you.

[Anonymous No.5916459]

>>5916456
you = plural

[Anonymous No.5916461]

>>5916429
That small subset is a handful of autistic 4chan faggots who barely fucking care about the games at all, and simply want to start shit so they can laugh at tired memes and post epic onions Wojacks over and over and fucking over.

The progress systems retard and his /vg/ faggot buddies never say anything interesting about the games they supposedly love. No scores, no strategies, no talk about the different developers, not even posting music or anything simple like they. They are much more interested in talking about why they hate RPGs than why they like arcade games. And they'll claim arcade discussion is ignored on /vr/, despite the fact that they are the reasons why. That fucking thread that reached the bump limit consisting of nothing but us vs. them shit, every single shooting game thread filled with "tranny" this and "jarpig" that, the only game these cocksuckers like playing is being shitposting faggots.

This has been going on for at least a year, maybe two. Arcade discussion went to shit here when the chav retard dropped in, and when he fucked off to Discord, the progress systems tard took over, and unlike the chav, he doesn't seem to even fucking play anything.

[Anonymous No.5916468]

>>5916461
you don't know as much about this story as you think you do, let's leave it at that

[Anonymous No.5916472]

>>5916461
>talk about the games
>thread dies with close to no replies
>every time

>get jarpigs to say why they don't like shmups
>thread reaches bump limit within 3 days and a half
>on fucking /vr/ of all places

yeah...

[Anonymous No.5916476]

>>5916472
>get jarpigs to say why they don't like shmups
A decent portion of that thread was shmup fans speculating on why the genre isn't more popular with casual players. It wasn't like it was just evil jarpigs saying they hate shmups.

[Anonymous No.5916478]

>>5916461
Is it really his fault that /vr/ would much rather talk about why they hate shmups rather than why they like them as pointed out here >>5916472
This pretty much proved his entire point.

[Anonymous No.5916493]

>>5916478
>/vr/ would much rather talk about why they hate shmups
wait a minute I thought the problem was that /vr/ doesn't want to discuss shmulrps at all?

[Anonymous No.5916494]

>>5912471
Copies of Earthbound were never sealed, at least in the US. You're either lying or someone lied to you.

[Anonymous No.5916496]

>>5916493
well turns out it can as long as it's hating on them lmao

[Anonymous No.5916502]

>>5916461
I don't participate in this anti jarpig war but what you're writing is just a narrative not the reality. It doesn't just apply to shmup threads, ALL arcade threads are like that because of the simple fact that there's nobody on /vr/ to talk about the games with.

I play games very casually and don't aim for competitive scores or particularly hard challenges beyond 1cc's and yet somehow despite such a casual approach, I'm consistently one of the most knowledgeable posters in arcade game threads here.

It shouldn't be like this, but it is because this board's dominated not by shit players, but by NON players. What's more is that they will actively shun people who do play and display a huge amount of hardware elitism and other boomer cancer. It's been like this for as long as I can remember, it was definitely like this in 2015 when the chav started actively posting. Even though I like posting here myself, I completely sympathize with anyone who shits on this board because it's washed up and trash.

[Anonymous No.5916503]

>>5913096
>introduces lag because of the length of time it takes the light to cross the room
>the length of time it takes the light to cross the room


Its going maybe 20-30 feet, not around the fucking cosmos.

[Anonymous No.5916510]

/vg/ and /v/ faggots are killing /vr/.

[Anonymous No.5916515]

>>5916510
what does vg have to do with anything
do you mean that dead shmup thread from months ago? how is that relevant

[Anonymous No.5916520]

>>5916510
>jarpigs are killing /vr/
ftfy

[Anonymous No.5916524]

>>5912385
>Saturn was shit
>has the hardest metal known to man on it
Piss off, faggot.

[Anonymous No.5916525]

>>5916510
What is /vr/ without a flood of new blood from /v/? It's a useless relic of boomers who don't play, can't discuss shit and are more concerned with keeping up their boomer elitist status and guarding against the "zoomer invasion" instead of getting others to appreciate these games.

[Anonymous No.5916532]

muh rpg boogeyman

[Anonymous No.5916536]

>>5916502
It's not just arcade games, it's not that common to have an in-depth discussion about any game on a general forum like this. People will go to discords or boards specifically for a game if they want the most knowledgeable discussion. Even for JRPGs. I can't think of another general gaming board that doesn't have this issue.

[Anonymous No.5916543]

>>5916532
check the catalog it's absolutely undeniable

[Anonymous No.5916552]

>>5916536
Nah, I'm not talking about anything particularly indepth, just basic stuff that anyone who plays the games a decent amount could talk about. /v/ is unironically much better about that because there's better game discussion among the sea of shitposting. /vr/ doesn't have nearly as much shitposting, but it's also almost entirely devoid of worthwhile content too.

[Anonymous No.5916556]

>/v/ is unironically much better
stay there.

[Anonymous No.5916561]

>>5916556

[Anonymous No.5916572]

>>5916552
I see what you're saying. I don't think /vr/ is that bad really, there's still good discussions from time to time, but it's slow and rare.
>>5916556
He's not wrong. I don't know about better, but /v/ does have really good threads if you care to dig through the shitposting. But this gets back to what I was saying, it's easier to just find a dedicated board than dig for good discussions. I like talking about Puyo on /vr/, but it's easier to have a good talk about things on Puyo Nexus or the discord.

[Anonymous No.5916581]

>>5916572
On a side note, hadn't checked it in a while, but looks like Puyo Nexus is pretty dead now. Seems like everybody is on the discord or subreddits now.

[Anonymous No.5916586]

>>5916561
go back underage.

[Anonymous No.5916603]

>/v/ apologists.
great thread.

[Anonymous No.5916604]

>weekend is coming to an end
>tomorrow another week of waveslaving start
>have to vent on /vr/
Why do you guys do it here? Go to other boards to do it.

[Anonymous No.5916605]

>>5916604
Because I've lost control of my life.

[Anonymous No.5916606]

>>5916604
because they want /vr/ to die.

[Anonymous No.5916814]

>>5913002
The N64's best games are great and are on par with the PS1's best games, but its library is sort of lacking outside of those top 20-30 games. Definitely enough for any kid to have fun and be happy with it, but I think that, if you asked a bunch of people for their favorite childhood N64 games, they'd give you very similar lists relative to kids who grew up with the Playstation. The other thing is that almost all of its best games that I can think of are some variation of platformers, whereas the PS1 has a much more varied selection.

Ultimately, though, it reaches such soaring heights with stuff like SM64 and Doom 64 that I'll never not think of it as a good console.

>>5915735
"Correlation =/= Causation" is hammered into your head as soon as you enter any field that involves analyzing data. Like, hey, all of it happened right after ska stopped being a prominent musical genre. Was ska music responsible for safeguarding vidya against casualization? Or maybe it was Bill Clinton being in the White House that was doing it.

Video-games becoming all-encompassing "cinematic experiences with RPG elements" is the result of a thousand factors that caused developers to see that as the best way to make a profitable game. It didn't happen solely because they saw that FF7 sold a lot and happened to use a level-up system.

[Anonymous No.5916819]

Kirby Adventure is best NES game

[Anonymous No.5916820]

>>5916819
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRDbw9R9dtg

[Anonymous No.5916851]

>>5916814
>solely
the biggest factor, read the original point >>5914210
dunno games with these elements getting big bucks inspiring other companies to follow suit isn't as much of a stretch as you try to paint it. it happens all the time as a matter of fact (some genre getting big and tons of others trying to capitalize off that), however this time it wasn't a mere fad and those elements stuck forever.

[Anonymous No.5916903]

>>5916216
>Can you be old enough be here?

[Anonymous No.5916929]

>>5912703
>the fuck are you even talking about dude lol? what? mednafen doesn't require you to do taxing 4-8 hours worth of random trial and error just to get an iso actually running? why do people even shill this crap. i emulated panzer dragoon and xmen vs street fighter and they played like complete dog shit.

You fucking PS4 owners are disgusting to look at.

[Anonymous No.5917181]

>>5912756
>The majority of females interested in ANYTHING are transgendered.

Do real women actually have any interests or hobbies besides drinking wine and watching stupid shit on TV?

[Anonymous No.5917196]

>>5917181
ruining people's lives, otherwise no

[Anonymous No.5917206]

>>5917181
Probably because women are more likely to be interested in hobbies as a way to bolster social interactions/status/meet a mate as opposed to simply enjoying the thing for itself, so they're less likely to discuss them online in communities where such status things aren't that important, and even less likely to take a hobby to the point that it becomes alienating to others. As in, you'll probably find many girls who will enjoy playing Mario Kart on the SNES with some friends, but not many who are busting out a soldering iron to repair broken traces and install RGB mods.

[Anonymous No.5917207]

>>5917181
I remember reading about the "lady" that ported Out of This World to the super nintendo and thinking "wow I guess women can do technical things!"

Nope it was a transsexual former man

[Anonymous No.5917221]

>>5917181
they like talking too much

[Anonymous No.5917227]

>>5912385
Shit thread. Delete pls and commit sudoku

[Anonymous No.5917243]

>>5917181
>>5917196
>>5917207
>>5917221
>>>/v9k/

[Anonymous No.5917316]

>>5916929
newest console i own is a ps2, go back to /v/ if you wanna troll, *yawn.

[Anonymous No.5917343]

>>5912703
>has literally played through at least 4 final fantasy games and at least 5 castlevania games
>doesn't like sega genesis or 1.6
>plays megaman
>needs at least 4 hours to set up emulation
>uses a computer so old he can't run panzer dragoon or xmen
I'm 100% confident you weight at least 200 pounds. I will paypal or bitcoin you $500 if you can prove with a timestamp you don't. I'm cackling with glee that I can tell you're a pathetic loser just from your post, and that you're irate reading this.

[Anonymous No.5917457]

>>5916929
Sorry I didn't have to give up gaming after my parents stopped buying my consoles, anon.

Must suck to not be able to afford gaming anymore.

[Anonymous No.5917480]

>>5912756
> The majority of females interested in retrogames are transgendered.
>tfw no qt trans gf

[Anonymous No.5917621]

>>5912948
Dangerously based

[Anonymous No.5917665]

>>5917316
>i'm so poor i'm retro
topkek

[Anonymous No.5917683]

>>5917665
Lmao.

[Anonymous No.5917736]

>>5916425
>>5916418

[Anonymous No.5917740]

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0Wd0frsWG2o

[Anonymous No.5917741]

>>5917736
this is not an RPG thread dipshit lmao

[Anonymous No.5917742]

>>5917741
this is /vr/ so every general thread is an RPG one didn't you know

[Anonymous No.5917745]

>>5917742
touché

[Anonymous No.5917748]

>ITT: /vr/ red pills
>thread quickly devolves into the next shmucks vs jarpigs shitposting war
>"you started it! no YOU started it! SHMUCK! JARPIG! REEEEEEEEE"
Fucking Christ.

[Anonymous No.5917750]

>>5917748
seething jarpig detected
this redpill hurts so bad the board can't accept it

[Anonymous No.5917813]

>>5912705
>X6 > X5
wrong
>SCV4 > Sotn
wrong
>SFA3 is a bad fighting game
even wronger
>1.6 was terrible
1.6 and Source are the only good versions of CS.

[Anonymous No.5917825]

>>5917740
>zoomers intellectualizing

[Anonymous No.5917828]

>>5917748
it was a /v/-tier thread from the very beginning, anon

[Anonymous No.5918823]

>>5913096
if there are particles in the air like dust it can slow down even further.

[Anonymous No.5918853]

>>5917748
Some red pills are too hard to swallow what can I say, especially the jrpg playing subset of the poster base

[Anonymous No.5918894]

>>5918823
>particles in the air
exactly. this is why crts use vacuum tubes.

[Anonymous No.5919012]

>>5915646
>never saw the matrix. it looked stupid
fucking cringe.
>tfw people like this actually exists.

[Anonymous No.5919584]

>>5912385
>mednafen
Gesundheit!

[Anonymous No.5919686]

>>5914472

beetle pce accurate core is available too

[Anonymous No.5919709]

>>5919584

[Anonymous No.5919746]

>>5912385
why cant zoomers accept they are poor, and use less than perfect means to play games? its sad. this board is full of jealous niggers.

[Anonymous No.5919749]

>>5912703
I was with you on every point (eg, who the FUCK actually enjoys any part at all of X5) except for the Chrono Trigger one. People don't like it for the Techs, but because of the Epoch and New Game +.

[Anonymous No.5920503]

>>5919749
nah i dont think you understand, if dual and triple tech weren't in the game you wouldn't think of it as so holy.

[Anonymous No.5920910]

Pokémon is gay and for fags

[Anonymous No.5920914]

>>5920910
I disagree. While Pokemon is enjoyed by all people, it is not exclusively made for homosexuals.

[Anonymous No.5920925]

>>5917243
The truth hurts sometimes.

[Anonymous No.5920952]

>>5919746
$200 over 36 months of use is $5.50 per month, so to budget you would just buy one less mocha a month and have something nice.

Zoomers have no mind for anything like that though because the school systems are failing and no one can do math or finances anymore.

[Anonymous No.5920971]

>>5912756
>The majority of females interested in retrogames are transgendered.
Please don't refer to transgender freaks as "females"

[Anonymous No.5920975]

>>5920971
wowowowowowowoowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowow

[Anonymous No.5920982]

>>5912385
>/vr/ red pills
Games DON'T age.

[Anonymous No.5920986]

>>5920982
games age.

[Anonymous No.5921181]

>>5920982
This statement is retarded and factually incorrect.

You can enjoy old shit all you want, thats why you're here. But they do age, saying they don't is fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.5921192]

>>5920925
People don't want to accept that most women are utterly bland, boring people that no one would talk to if they didn't have a vag.

But most men want to get into that vag and so they put up with the bland, boring, vain creature that is woman in hopes of getting some.

[Anonymous No.5921194]

>>5921181
Age is a human concept. Inanimate, inorganic objects don’t have a death clock.

[Anonymous No.5921212]

>>5921194
They can't 'die' in the sense that they were never alive, but they can deteriorate and decompose.

In the sense the word was being used here they can age in the sense that they're made outdated by newer technology and trends.

[Anonymous No.5921223]

/v/-tier thread .

[Anonymous No.5921236]

>>5921223
/v/-tier post.

Are you just going around posting this in every thread?

[Anonymous No.5921251]

>>5921236
No, only the /v/-tier ones

[Anonymous No.5921265]

>>Chrono Trigger wouldn't be highly rated if there were no dual/triple techs
True for a gameplay stand point but Chrono Trigger was lauded for its storyline, art direction, ect.
>>Final Fantasy 4 is a better game than Final Fantasy 6, and Final Fantasy 6 is a better game than Final Fantasy 7, and Final Fantasy 8 is better than FF7.
I love FF4, it's my favorite Final Fantasy, that being said, go eat a dick.
>>The genesis is near worthless besides three games which are: Rocket Knight Adventures, Comix Zone, Streets of Rage 2.
Oh sure, no one likes Sonic, Golden Axe, Phantasy Star, ect.
>>SNES is meant to be played in 4:3 not 8:7
Doubt.jpg but so what?
>>Yoshi's Island is greatly praised due to its tight controls, mechanics, and physics, not its actual gameplay and stage design/progression
Art direction was an interesting choice too.
>>Megaman X 6 > X 5
Oh fuck off.
>>The battle stations posted on this forum are not from the people that upload them.
This is probably true, then again nothing ever happens anymore.
>>SCV4 > SOTN > Bloodlines > CV3 > CV1
Oh fuck off.

[Anonymous No.5921281]

>>5912464
Does it matter if LCD can't display 1/4th of the colors CRTs have? Iff you have an OLED it'll be fine, but when the hardware physically cannot display all the colors shaders can't help you.

[Anonymous No.5921396]

>Ocarina Of Time is an above avergae adventure game with an amazing soundtrack and art direction but a terrible camera
>NES games are not fun to play due to unfair difficulty and slowdown
>Star Fox 64 is unplayable due to the amount of fog
>Eco Fighters is the best schmup ever made
> Mario 64s controls are god awful

[Anonymous No.5921410]

>>5912385
>>CRTs have .5 to 1.5 frames of delay for interlacing correction
This is rotational velocidensity-tier science

[Anonymous No.5921427]

>>5912385
>super street fighter 2010 the final fight is mega man mixed with metroid and better than both.

[Anonymous No.5921430]

>>5912703
>>Street Fighter Alpha 3 is a bad fighting game but still somehow better then 3S. 3S is praised now only because of hype that came off of Daigo's full parry and would not be popular today if that didn't happen. People that are actually decent at the game know this; its one of the most boring FGs to play at an intermediate level due to the amount of reads you have to prep yourself for. it is a very slow game and not as action packed as spectators might think.
This is not true but both games are awful anyways, SFA3 is a worse SFA2 with juggling mechanics and 3S was probably the slowest fighting game before SFIV came out

[Anonymous No.5921447]

>>5917181
My hobbies are videogames, listen to music, crochet, knitting, cooking, drawing, reading and come to 4chan. There are literally billions of women, guys, not every woman are the same or do the same. Pay attention pls

[Anonymous No.5921461]

>>5921447
what kind of videogame themed sandwiches can you make naked?

[Anonymous No.5921645]

>>5921447
Tits or gtfo

[Anonymous No.5921668]

>>5921212
>In the sense the word was being used here

this is not /lit/, faggot, take your personifications someplace else. A code doesn't age, it can be re-written to improve it, to fix flaws, or to adapt it to more modern technology... that's right, gaming is "techonology", this board discusses technology, not fucking Aesop's Fables.

[Anonymous No.5921687]

>>5912385
Modern video game controllers from the seventh and eighth generations are superior to /vr/ era controllers even when playing /vr/ games.

[Anonymous No.5921763]

>>5921447
Based.

[Anonymous No.5921773]

>>5921447
>crochet, knitting, reading, 4chan, listen to music
So being a couch potato, got it.

[Anonymous No.5921803]

The biggest redpill is that calling your opinion "redpilled" doesn't make it true or immune to criticism

[Anonymous No.5921841]

>>5912703
*cracks knuckles* Let's see if you can pass peer review, Anon.

>>Chrono Trigger wouldn't be highly rated if there were no dual/triple techs
Wrong. Chrono Trigger is a game that shouldn't have happened. The graphics are detailed, the music creates a mood, the story makes you feel things. If you wanted to argue the combat in that game could be more in-depth, we could have a conversation.

>>Final Fantasy 4 is a better game than Final Fantasy 6, and Final Fantasy 6 is a better game than Final Fantasy 7, and Final Fantasy 8 is better than FF7.
incorrect. FF8 isn't better than 7.

>>The genesis is meant to be played in Composite, nothing else, no arguement.
correct.

>>The genesis is near worthless besides three games which are: Rocket Knight Adventures, Comix Zone, Streets of Rage 2.
incorrect. SoR3, sonic 3 & knuckles, bloodlines, shinobi 3, contra: hard corps, dynamite headdy, the adventures of batman and robin, x-men 2: clone wars, and more.

>>SNES is meant to be played in 4:3 not 8:7
correct.

>>Yoshi's Island is greatly praised due to its tight controls, mechanics, and physics, not its actual gameplay and stage design/progression
correct.

>>Megaman X 6 > X 5
correct.

>>The battle stations posted on this forum are not from the people that upload them.
correct.

>>SCV4 > SOTN > Bloodlines > CV3 > CV1
incorrect. SCV4 < SotN > Bloodlines < CV3 > CV1.

>>1.6 was terrible
irrelevant.

>>Street Fighter Alpha 3 is a bad fighting game but still somehow better then 3S. 3S is praised now only because of hype that came off of Daigo's full parry and would not be popular today if that didn't happen. People that are actually decent at the game know this; its one of the most boring FGs to play at an intermediate level due to the amount of reads you have to prep yourself for. it is a very slow game and not as action packed as spectators might think.
correct.

[Anonymous No.5921859]

>>5921396
Goddamn you are a casual pleb.

[Anonymous No.5921979]

>Final Fantasy 4 is a better game than Final Fantasy 6, and Final Fantasy 6 is a better game than Final Fantasy 7, and Final Fantasy 8 is better than FF7.

woah there buddy

[Anonymous No.5922634]

Final Fantasy 5 is the best FF
>>5915579
snes interlaces sometimes
>>5917457
There aren't enough good new games to play
>>5917480
That actually physically hurt me
>>5921192
>most women are utterly bland
So are most men, though. There's so little that I can befriend most people over, male or female.
>>5921447
I don't care if you're actually a woman or not but I just want to say that I agree with your sentiment
>>5921645
>tits or gtfo
Kill yourself.
>>5921841
>leddit spacing
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.5922674]

>>5912756
>The majority of females interested in retrogames are transgendered
men aren't women. it's pretty simple

[Anonymous No.5922881]

>>5912385
the classic RE games are dogshit and the only reason why they're remembered fondly is because the people who played were either kids or didn't know better.

and that goes double for collect-a-thons & metroidvanias as well.

[Anonymous No.5922890]

>>5922881
also i forgot to add that retro games being harder than modern games is a meme. they're piss easy.

[Anonymous No.5922938]

>>5921396
Imagine being this retarded

[Anonymous No.5922942]

>>5922634
Kill yourself you cuck.

[Anonymous No.5922967]

>>5912385
Sega always sucked and Nintendo was so great that everyone remembers them more.

[Anonymous No.5923146]

The biggest vr Mario redpill is that the average Mario fan goes through a cycle of loving SMW, then preferring 3 to it and then going back to preferring SMW. Eventually the most enlightened will realize that your preference boils down to which control scheme you like more and if you prefer 3's more world variety against world's technical superiority

[Anonymous No.5923158]

>>5923146
I've always loved SMW more and I've never cared too much for 3 despite playing it first. Prefer SMB1 for a classic experience and World for its excellent controls and secrets. Something about 3 never clicked with me.

[Anonymous No.5923202]

>>5912703
I don't understand how the Chronotrigger one is a redpill.

The Dual techs encouraged you to vary your party members often and experiment attacks, and actually utilize the ATB system instead treating it like a basic turnbased game.
It also encourages the player to consider how the party members interacted with each other which makes Crono's death more impactful.

It's a small element of the game, but every part of that game contributes to the full project so of course the game would be worse without it. How is this a redpill?

[Anonymous No.5923249]

>>5913545
>not being a fucking loser
Why are you here?

[Anonymous No.5923559]

>>5912710

this PLUS a lifetime of thrift stores / garage sales as a hobby so you'll pick it up eventually

[Anonymous No.5923568]

>>5912427
Anyone with this in high res?

[Anonymous No.5923576]

>>5923249
Arguing over retro consoles is no different to arguing over sports teams, tv shows or most of what passes for "politics" these days (think sjw stuff). Doing it on the regular in a forum with arguments as basic on this probably does though.

[Anonymous No.5923605]

>>5912623
/vr/ has been overrun by /v/irgins and plebbit tourists since at least three years by now and went to utter shit in the process. Same thing happened to /tg/ and /k/ is on its way to becoming unbearable to enjoy as well.

[Anonymous No.5924462]

>>5912703
>and Final Fantasy 8 is better than FF7
And thisis how you spot the paste eating dullard right here lads

[Anonymous No.5924467]

>>5921396
>Eco Fighters is the best schmup ever made
A shit, Captain Planet-themed, far more limited version of the much better Forgotten Worlds, which was made of pure originality and Strider-level weirdness, as opposed to designed by a write in competition Capcom held in jap gaming mags.