Phantasy Star Thread

[Anonymous No.6418586]

This game is fucking great


Phantasy star series thread

[Anonymous No.6418587]

>>6418586
Other version of the cover.

Does the game ever deliver on the promise of skeleton wrestling?

[Anonymous No.6418613]

>>6418587
You do fight a lot of skeletons! Yeah, PS1 is pretty amazing and so much more than FF or DQ1.

[Anonymous No.6418957]

>>6418586
>>6418587
Jp version
Fucking soul

[Anonymous No.6418959]

>>6418957
Forgot image

[Anonymous No.6418962]

>>6418613
>Yeah, PS1 is pretty amazing and so much more than FF or DQ1.
This is like the one Master System thing that actually is way better than the NES equivalent imo

[Anonymous No.6421136]

>>6418962
Better rpgs?

[Anonymous No.6421295]

Reminder that Alys is the best girl

[Anonymous No.6422946]

>>6421295
Dude, no, don't do that to me again. I'm not ready.

[Anonymous No.6422979]

How come they're all numen and not numen and and nuwomen? Also why do all numen wear leotards?

[Anonymous No.6423004]

Currently playing Phantasy Star 4. It was pretty boring at first but now I like it. My only complaint is that I have to look at the manual a lot to figure out what each tech or skill does. Wish they had enough room to write what each spell did. Is it worth trying Phantasy Star 3 after this?

[Anonymous No.6423040]

The original JRPG heroine. Playing through it on the switch for the first time in a really long time. It's still a decent game all these year later, such a shame the series died after IV, though the original PSO was a great game. Used to play a hunewearl.

[Anonymous No.6423052]

>>6423004
The game is very flawed but the generation system and the tech system are really neat. I'd say give it a whirl but don't feel you need to stumble through without a guide, check out what everything does because it's not stated anywhere ingame, you'll have a much nicer time that way. Also the beginning of the game is a little opaque on what you're supposed to do, so look out for that.

[Anonymous No.6424329]

>>6422979
Don't be a Nufag.

[Anonymous No.6424348]

Was play II until my xbox360 RRODd. Hopefully there are roms easier to find.

But god damn combat events would happen everytime you took two steps.

[Anonymous No.6424469]

It's surprising how well Phantasy Star holds up, especially that soundtrack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnQz9njOPXg

[Anonymous No.6424953]

>>6423040
>Not posting the pantyshot version
Do you even

[Anonymous No.6425001]

Could someone please tell ne where to buy the PASS or how to get it so I can actual play the game? I. Got new vegas and doom eternal to stilll get threw this summer plus a million other projects, thanks

[Anonymous No.6425008]

>>6425001
In the next town over (Scion) you can buy the Pass from the second-hand shop (it comes up as SECRETS). Keep trying and the guy will sell it to you eventually.

[Anonymous No.6425023]

>>6425008
Fuck were we supposed to read a guide or something ?

[Anonymous No.6425039]

It saddens me that people don't play these games sequentially. The enjoyment of the storylines, lore and encounters with past games' characters (or species) is enhanced if you do them in order.

[Anonymous No.6425042]

I played it for a little while, it was fun!

[Anonymous No.6425046]

>>6425008
Thanks! How did people figure this out back then!

I also had to ask a friend in grade school how to learn the skill of cut in pokem gold, so im used to having trouble with certain tasks.

Thanks again.

[Anonymous No.6425056]

>>6425023
Was there one/Is there one? I never played it until HappyConsole gamer mentioned it.

[Anonymous No.6425058]

>>6425046
There is an npc that mentions it iirc, talk to everyone and you should be fine.

[Anonymous No.6425180]

Been introducing my friend to the first Phantasy Star this week. Happy to say he's hooked, despite growing up with mostly PSX and newer games and not playing too many RPG's growing up besides Pokémon.
(I'm playing 4 next to him)

The 20" screen is in the middle of a re-capping, so that's why it's not in use.

[Anonymous No.6425181]

>>6425180
(I'm also playing Pokémon in that picture; just was multitasking a lot because of another friend wanting to do some battles)

[Anonymous No.6425465]

>>6425180
This photo looks comfy as fuck.

[Anonymous No.6426672]

>>6425180
Comfy setup anon

[Anonymous No.6427093]

>>6424953
Stop lewding Saint Alis you degenerate

[Anonymous No.6427132]

>>6418959
10/10 would suck toes

[Anonymous No.6427158]

>>6427093
What's lewd about a panty shot?

[Anonymous No.6428509]

>>6418586
I've never played the games before but I want to. Are there any good ports of these games or are the original releases the ones i should go with?
I remember the Switch port of PS1 being praised but i didnt look too much into it.

[Anonymous No.6428516]

(I'm asking about the whole series including PSO1 by the way, since I haven't played that either, sorry for not clarifying)

[Anonymous No.6428518]

>>6428509
There is the PlayStation 2 compilation of Phantasy Star 1-4 with a bunch of extra options to improve the experience.
Don't mix it up with the full remakes of 1 and 2 that were also released on the PlayStation 2.
Be sure to activate FM sound for Phantasy Star 1.

[Anonymous No.6428529]

>>6428518
Would I need to bypass my PS2's regionlock to play it, or no?

[Anonymous No.6428573]

>>6428509
Search for PS1 retranslation patch for Master System rom. It impoves translation and also adds FM soundtrack.
I also enjoyed PS Generation 1 remake for how it expands story, but I still recommend original.

[Anonymous No.6429943]

>>6427158
Kys perv

[Anonymous No.6429954]

>>6418959
>so unstable port
Boring same game from MD port begger.

[Anonymous No.6429960]

>>6421295
Built for black magic.

[Anonymous No.6429964]

>>6418959
I prefer marvelous eight bit ver. (Master System original classic)

[Anonymous No.6429973]

>>6427132
>>6427158
>two degenerate spotted

[Anonymous No.6430230]

>>6429960
>DARKED

[Anonymous No.6430803]

>>6428518
>Be sure to activate FM sound for Phantasy Star 1.
You can't do that if you're playing the English rom on the PS2 collection. Only the Japanese rom has it.

You should play the fan patch anyway for the far superior translation and FM sound.

[Anonymous No.6430817]

>>6430803
Japanese with FM sound > fan patch with FM sound

[Anonymous No.6430829]

>>6430817
Oh, here we go. Everybody should stop what they're doing and make sure to learn the Japanese language before they're allowed to play games, isn't that right? Just don't post, mate. Your contribution is less than nothing.

[Anonymous No.6430940]

>>6430829
Stop forcing others to use English because you are too lazy to adapt.
If he wants the best experience then Japanese is without alternative.
And what do you suggest to do with the later games? Keep playing crappy translations because you can't move past English?

[Anonymous No.6431572]

>>6430940
I've been learning Japanese for 3 years and started PS1 with the patch last night.

Sometimes I just can't be arsed using a language which actively takes effort to think in compared to my native language. I play video games to unwind. Realistically the extra depth I'd get from playing an 8 bit game in it's native language is minimal, so why bother?

[Anonymous No.6431690]

>>6431572
You should start using video games as learning materials, then you wouldn't struggle with the language after three years.

[Anonymous No.6432207]

>couple of idiots kill all discussion with their pointless arguing
every time

[Anonymous No.6432527]

>>6431690
> I play video games to unwind

Sitting learning a language is not unwinding, chum.

[Anonymous No.6432698]

Is there a reason why Japan seems to have so little nostalgia for PS4?

[Anonymous No.6432724]

>>6432698
Do they? I always thought it is 2 they are forgetting the most (except of Nei). What I like is that they, apparently, care about 3 a lot.

[Anonymous No.6432769]

>>6432698
Mega drive sold poorly in japan

[Anonymous No.6433049]

>>6432724
I wish someone in Japan was crazy enough to make a fan remake of PS3. Someone did recently release PS2 fan sequel so it's not exactly impossible.

[Anonymous No.6433086]

>>6433049
Can you link to that PS2 sequel? I know there is a recent game that continues PS4.
And yeah, I'd give an arm and leg for a PS3 remake. Especially if Toyo Ozaki is involved. It looks like she still cares about PS3 and it is very heartwarming.

[Anonymous No.6433619]

Whats the best version of the first Phantasy Star Online? There's been a lot of releases and I'm confused by it all.

[Anonymous No.6434094]

>>6430940
>Stop forcing others
Are you truly daft? If one wants to play NOW then one is FORCED to play in a language they understand NOW, and if someone was fluent in Japanese they wouldn't be asking us over the Nihonjin. You are the one clearly trying to FORCE people to somplete a prequisite checklist before they are allowed to play a game. Your position is indefencible. Get ye fucked, you wanker.

[Anonymous No.6434484]

>>6433619
https://ephinea.pioneer2.net/

[Anonymous No.6434629]

>>6429960
>>6430230
Zio, you son of a...

[Anonymous No.6434631]

>>6429960
>>6430230
Mutt's law

[Anonymous No.6434659]

>>6424953
pantyshot? i thought she had no pants on at all in >>6423040

[Anonymous No.6434678]

>>6434484
My nigga!

[Anonymous No.6434794]

Playing PS1 for the first time. Mapping Medusa's Cave and apparently my dumb ass didn't flip my paper around at some point while drawing out the map and I've ended up with this horrific hybrid drawing where the entrance is somehow on the left and right simultaneously and the middle is just a hot mess.

It's like I've drawn one map, flipped the page 180 degrees, and then drawn another map over that one. Guess I'll have to go back and redo the thing.

[Anonymous No.6434826]

>>6434794
All part of the self-mapping fun!
You should see the mess I made of The Bard's Tale

[Anonymous No.6435108]

>>6433086
https://cgp.space/blog/2019/10/14/ps200/

[Anonymous No.6435129]

>>6434826
I've been wanting to get into older CRPGs/more complex retro JRPGs for ages, mostly because mapping seems like a good time (and despite the mistakes it has been so far!).

Makes the pacing of games like this a lot better too. It's one extra activity to do so it makes random encounters and such feel a lot less constant and obnoxious.

[Anonymous No.6435138]

>>6435108
Nice, thank you!

[Anonymous No.6436121]

>>6434794
i see you're into randomisers

[Anonymous No.6436304]

>>6434484
Ah, thanks anon.
Random question but, since it's an older online game, is there generally a schedule where, like, there are more people coming to play on a certain day(s) rather than others? Or do people just come play whenever they feel like and it's not something I should worry about?
Either way I'll try to organize a group with my friends, this sounds fun (especially since nobody has to pay for the game)

[Anonymous No.6437129]

>>6436304
>Or do people just come play whenever they feel like and it's not something I should worry about?
Pretty much this. It's never gonna be super busy but it'll never be 100% dead, don't think about it too much.

[Anonymous No.6437132]

>>6434659
She's wearing yellow tights.

[Anonymous No.6437214]

Honestly I can't get into any PS game besides PS4. 1 and 2 have first person dungeons and 3 is just shit

[Anonymous No.6437223]

>>6437214
2 doesn't have first person dungeons and there's nothing wrong with first person dungeons.

[Anonymous No.6437482]

Completed my PSII run earlier tonight and already started up PSIII. I always avoid replaying this one because of its different aesthetics but I figure it's been long enough since my last playthrough so I should probably reacquaint myself with it again. This time as a change-up I'll use the General Improvement patch to see if it helps to improve a very flawed game.

[Anonymous No.6437517]

>>6418586
It's getting pretty expensive too. If you want one with a booklet it's around $200 dollars. That's about as much as I'd be willing to pay for a new console.

[Anonymous No.6437590]

>>6434794
>>6434826
>>6436121
No randomisers, just stupidity on my part! Top is my first map, bottom is my second attempt. Trying to work out how I managed it.

[Anonymous No.6437705]

How do I play this game?

[Anonymous No.6437794]

>>6437705
Buy yourself a copy of Phantasy Star and a Sega Master System

[Anonymous No.6437868]

>>6418586
how would you rate the free to play version of phantasy star on phones?

[Anonymous No.6437881]

>>6418613
FF1 is my favorite RPG and I'm currently playing through PS1 so my expectations are very high.

[Anonymous No.6439736]

>>6437705
With this translation patch and FM sound.

[Anonymous No.6439951]

>>6437705
failing this>>6439736
just grab it on Switch

[Anonymous No.6441647]

>>6439736
Started this a few days ago and having a good time so I can definitely second this recommendation.

I know there's fan translations/edits for some of the other main games but are they recommended? Sounds like the PS2 one is pretty error filled.

Also is there any set of translations which will keep consistency between character names? I know characters from e.g. PS1 are mentioned in later games but different translations use different names sometimes.

Or are the official releases just fine for the later games?

[Anonymous No.6441836]

>>6418586
>strong and cute female lead that isn't lewd
Alis is a pretty good female protag even by today's standards, it's a shame that feminists don't actually play video games. You'd think she would come up more often in discussions about strong female characters in gaming.

[Anonymous No.6441854]

HE'S JUST A LITTLE BABY KITTY

[Anonymous No.6441865]

>>6421295
I miss her.

[Anonymous No.6442147]

I was actually gonna try phantasy star 4 when I finished chrono trigger.

[Anonymous No.6442983]

>best rpgs of their respective 16-bit consoles. played back-to-back
nice

[Anonymous No.6443003]

>>6441647
The PS2 'retranslation' is mostly just the official one with a few fixes to make naming consistant with other gamesx in the series, and restores some lost NPC dialogue that was just repeats of ealier text in the original translation. It doesn't work on real hardware, but if you're playing on emulator it doesn't take anything away from the game, it's a mild (very mild) improvement.

Using the retranslations for 1 and 2 the naming is fairly consistant between between them and the official translation of 4, barring some alternate spelling.

[Anonymous No.6443019]

>>6441854
They ruined him in the remake.

[Anonymous No.6443038]

I really like the Sega Ages port on Switch. Makes me wish M2 would have given the same treatment to PS2-4. I also would like a modern Phantasy Star in tribute to the atyle of the original games. I don't care much for mmorpgs.

[Anonymous No.6443059]

>>6443038
PS2 with bugfixes and real time drawn maps with doubled EXP and Meseta rates would be great. They could also do an optional version where they balance the characters a little so that everyone has something they can do and Rolf is nerfed a bit, along with tech and equipment changes.

[Anonymous No.6443152]

>>6443019

[Anonymous No.6443183]

>>6443152

[Anonymous No.6443189]

>>6443183
>they abandoned the furry mascot character and designed jailbait in leotards to fill the same role in the party
is this based?

[Anonymous No.6444825]

>>6443189
>jailbait

[Anonymous No.6444917]

>>6443059
The Playstation 2 Phantasy Star collection includes the option to boost exp and money earned. There's a patch for Phantasy Star 2 here which replicates at least one variant of that setting: http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/924/

But yeah I agree, would be cool to see a Switch port similar in style to the PS1 port. One of the only times I'd actually be willing to pay money for what essentially amounts to a game running in an emulator (as they've actually added a few QoL things and bothered to let you play with the better Japanese music).

[Anonymous No.6445218]

>>6444825
>1 year old
she baby

[Anonymous No.6445267]

>>6443003
there's at least two romhack authors I'm aware of who've attempted to instill some kind of consistency between the 3 sequels by using already established names and terms in the official localizations when updating text, usually taking from the first game or adopting what the last game in the series established. Though what they choose to incorporate into their hacks can be hit or miss, depending on the term:

>"Peloriemate" is a consumable item in Phantasy Star that could be purchased in most towns. It restored 10 HP and was described to be some kind of energy-bar type snack food. In the official localization, it's name (which was a pun on Caloriemate, a popular energy bar in Japan) was changed to "Cola" presumably due to the west's unfamiliarity of said pun and was depicted as such in manuals.

>In the NA version of PSIV, "Perolymate" appears in a shop in Termi and appears to be the new localization term for Peloriemate. It can be bought and used to complete a sidequest where one participant will exclaim, "Hey! You're holding a Perolymate! Does that bring back memories! That has high nutritional value! I used to eat those back in the old days!"

>perolymate is used to revive a girl who is malnourished in a PSIV sidequest
>hack turns the item into a soft drink as it was depicted in localized PS1

good job, mate

[Anonymous No.6445373]

Doing another playthrough of Phantasy Star III after not wanting to touch it again for years. This time I'm using one of the patches on romhacking.net to change things up.

>Played PSIII once years ago, managed to power through and get all four endings.
>remember how brief and stripped of character all the dialogue was, left a lot of things unexplained
>hack adds character commentary sometimes when talking to NPCs
>genuinely enjoying the dialogue now even though it might not be true to the original developer intent

good, good... I also like that party members join fully decked out with equipment already, saves money for actual upgrading, haven't need to grind at all so far

tech system still seems whack even with the new tweaks and customizations

[Anonymous No.6445664]

>>6445373
The tech system is really neat, it could use much more depth but for a game from 1990 it's a cool idea.

[Anonymous No.6445669]

>>6418586
has anyone attempted to replicate the NA/EU style packaging of the Phantasy Star games but using the japanese artwork instead? I would like to see what that would look like, and maybe use them as alternate box arts for emulator frontends and such.

[Anonymous No.6445684]

>>6445664
I guess. Seems strange though: characters start with their full complement of spells already (they never learn anything new), the only thing that changes is their relative strength which is mostly determined by paying 10 meseta to adjust their stats (max being dependant on character level) and "putting all points" into one tech exclusively severely diminishes the power of another in the same group. And of course all spells in a group cost the same TP regardless of their strength.

It's different, I'll give it that. Seems more like something you'd see in a western rpg. I guess I can see the utility in customizing characters to be more proficient in one area only if they want to give them roles: do you want Mieu to be a better party healer or make it so reviving a character from death fully heals them?


Also, FUCK Anti and other spells in games that can fail multiple times in a row.

[Anonymous No.6445716]

Is phantasy star 3 a good introduction to the series or should i start with the more famous 4th game?

[Anonymous No.6445719]

>>6444825
I swear, she's looking at the viewer with the sort of disgust you'd expect out of a high class fin domme. The insane heels, gloves, and the way she holds that (uncharacteristic) space rifle don't help that image. Not that I mind at all in this instance.

>>6445373
The amount of hacking Phantasy Star hacking that's happened in the last few years to restore/tweak lost content is staggering. I've been really digging FM sound tracks and nineties anime art so I have no excuse to be missing out on all this stuff.

>>6445716
The recommended order is the release order since it all comes together at the end. Someone posted a helpful screenshot of recommended ROM hacks as well in one of the previous threads.

[Anonymous No.6445728]

>>6445719
>The recommended order is the release order since it all comes together at the end.
Oh, nice. I didnt knew that the story was connected

[Anonymous No.6445972]

>>6445669
I found this thumbnail using google but the link to the hi-res version is broken.

[Anonymous No.6445991]

>>6445669
>>6445972
found the creator for that one and one more, they're on deviantart. Original files are too big to post here, if you want the full versions just just grab them there.

PSII:
https://www.deviantart.com/thesoulless/art/Phantasy-Star-2-Custom-NTSC-Box-w-Japanese-Art-361007625

PSIV:
https://www.deviantart.com/thesoulless/art/Phantasy-Star-IV-US-cover-with-JP-art-361008470

PSII one looks great but PSIV is a bit lacking

[Anonymous No.6446194]

>>6445267
>Cola
Why. And in a time where all retranslation efforts of previous games try to bring them in line with PS4, why would this this addle-cove make a PS4 hack that used idiotic PS1 official translation terms? Boggles the mind, it does. Well, I've been on the fence about giving that hack the time of day, thanks for making the decision easy.

[Anonymous No.6446206]

>>6445716
>Is phantasy star 3 a good introduction to the series
Negative.
>should i start with the more famous 4th game?
That would be wiser, it's a much more complete and well presented game. 1 would also be a great start if ya think you're hard enuff.

[Anonymous No.6446542]

>>6445716
>Is phantasy star 3 a good introduction to the series or should i start with the more famous 4th game?

Oh my god no.
I'm a PS lifer who's played the games since I was little.
I like PS3 because of it provides expansion of the lore of the series.
It doesn't deserve the hate it gets but gameplay-wise it's very unlike the other games. As a video game it's inferior to the others.

Start with PS1 or PS4. PS4 being the most fun game of the series and the most noob friendly.
PS4 also combines all of the best elements of the previous games and expands upon them

[Anonymous No.6446554]

>>6445373
>>hack adds character commentary sometimes when talking to NPCs
>>genuinely enjoying the dialogue now even though it might not be true to the original developer intent

You had my interest up until this point. I'm not interested in Working Designs quips or fanfiction

>remember how brief and stripped of character all the dialogue was, left a lot of things unexplained

That's one of the things I like about PS3. You have to actually pay attention to the game to find gleen what's going on.

[Anonymous No.6446668]

>>6443189
>>6445373
>>6446542
>Mieu

You know even though she's a android she's still "fully functional."

[Anonymous No.6446772]

Should I wait for a Sega Ages port of 2 like they did with 1 or is the original version of 2 fine?

[Anonymous No.6446787]

>>6446668

[Anonymous No.6446795]

>>6446554
eh, your loss

>>6446772
As much as I would like them to tackle the sequel... the way M2 seems to be winding down on releases and the fact the Sega Ages line is selling better in the west than in their home country, I'm not expecting them to do PSII anytime soon or at all. Just play it another way.

[Anonymous No.6446801]

>>6446795
Any patches for 2 I should know about?

[Anonymous No.6446829]

>>6429943
No you reddit

[Anonymous No.6446842]

>>6446801
These are the ones that go the furthest. There's also a few small patches that tweak battle rewards to reduce grind and making your characters walk faster. There used to be one that fixed the wonky scrolling camera, but it's been removed. Probably because it was buggy. Maybe one day someone will redo it, I've always hated how you had to walk to the near edge of the screen before the camera would follow you. Secret of Mana has the same issue.

[Anonymous No.6446868]

>>6446772
Phantasy Star Collection (Playstation 2) version of original PS2 is the best now.

[Anonymous No.6446965]

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[Anonymous No.6447027]

>>6446965
As an adult this guy isn’t too bad. As a kid I got filtered hard

[Anonymous No.6447043]

>>6418586
I played through this a little less than a year ago. Did it without a guide, took notes, made maps, etc. Had a great time.

[Anonymous No.6447094]

>>6446842
Brilliant chart. I've been looking through the PS2 patches for a while trying to make up my mind. Looks like I'll stick with Bugfix as it tweaks some text but doesn't make too many major gameplay changes as far as I can tell.

[Anonymous No.6447404]

>>6441865
Me too

[Anonymous No.6447418]

>>6446965
It's a great way to level up if you manage to survive. You can almost all chars 1 or 2 times after each fight. The problem is that you get too strong after defeating 3 or 4 and Zio becomes your bitch. Those fuckers are actually more dangerous than Zio! After this you can play pretty normally and will only suffers true pressure and danger at the air castle. I wish other bosses were stronger.

[Anonymous No.6447552]

>>6447418
Whats the trick to get them to show up. I heard leave a small sandworm alive and then mama comes but it never happened.

[Anonymous No.6447804]

>>6437214
I'm into 1&4. Can't get past the boring grid backgrounds in 2 and horrific menus, music, enemies, pacing, and game design of 3.

[Anonymous No.6447830]

>>6447552
You can only do it after you head east past the quicksand after Alys gets AIDS.

[Anonymous No.6448473]

>>6446965
>t.Hahn

[Anonymous No.6448830]

>>6446842
>Improvement patch says it needs to be patched on a Rev A version of the game
>All of the roms I can find are Rev 2
The fuck?

[Anonymous No.6448834]

I liked the Phantasy Star 2 text adventures better than the actual game, especially Nei's part.

[Anonymous No.6448971]

>>6448830
I'm not sure why it says that. REV 2 will patch just fine, I just did a test run right now.

[Anonymous No.6448974]

>>6448971
Yeah I said fuck it and just patched the rev 2 version and it works fine.

[Anonymous No.6448979]

>>6448834
I would have liked them to be incorporated into PSII and made fully playable as some kind of optional content, they do a good job of helping to flesh out who each member of the party are.

[Anonymous No.6449013]

[Anonymous No.6449406]

>get to tower of nido
>encounter two blasters right at the top
>preemptive strike
>killed before I can act
What the fuck, this is some serious bullshit. No other enemy has been anywhere NEAR as strong as this one.

[Anonymous No.6449426]

>>6425046
GUNNNNBUSTERRRRRRR!
FIGHTO FIGHTO

[Anonymous No.6449732]

Which party members should I use in 2? I just got the recorder and got Amy and Hugh to join me, but I don't know which one I want on my team.

[Anonymous No.6449859]

Which is the best out of 2, 3, & 4?
I have the Sega collection on switch and the only phantasy star game I've played is the action rpg on the ds

[Anonymous No.6449862]

>>6448979
They sort of did it in Phantasy Star Generation 2. While not playable, text adventures are often referenced in dialogues with NPC and Shelly from Eusis's Text Adventure got her own subplot.
Also Phantasy Star Gaiden gets a mention and you meet main hero of Phantasy Star Adventure who talks about professor Ken Miller and gives you Enhancer if you bring him Golden Stone from Dezolis.

[Anonymous No.6449869]

What's the best system to play these games on? Do any of the games require more accurate retranslation hacks?

[Anonymous No.6449898]

>>6449859
The best is 4. It is one of a pinnacles of 16-bit JRPGs. But if you are invested in a setting, then playing them in order is a real treat.

>>6449869
Only PS1 requires a retranslation patch. PS2 retranslaton is worse than original translation, I don't know about any translation improvements of 3 and 4 is fine by itself.
So either play Master System version of1 with retranslation patch or Sega Ages PS1 on Switch. It has original translation, but adds many QoL things. After that, play either original Mega Drive versions of 2-4 or consider Phantasy Star Collection for PS2 that also add improvements that make Phantasy Star 2 less painful grinding-wise.

[Anonymous No.6449932]

>>6449898
If I got PS Collection on PS2, would that version of PS1 be fine? Or would the better translation just be that much better?

[Anonymous No.6449941]

So is the original PS just like a Wizardry-style dungeon crawler? I played PS2 on the Sega Channel when I was a tiny child and I remember it being a standard overhead JRPG ordeal, but a dungeon crawler sounds good as hell.

[Anonymous No.6449958]

>>6449941
No. There's a lot of overland stuff and the dungeons are relatively small and straightforward.
It's more like Ultima.

[Anonymous No.6449981]

>>6449406
Blasters are no joke, pretty sure they didn't get around to balancing that monster because a group of two or more will take you out quick. You can try running but it's extremely likely to fail and you'll eat acid spit for your trouble.

[Anonymous No.6449984]

>>6449932
With retranslation patch also comes much better FM soundtrack. If you are okay with playing with PSG music, then Collection version is fine.

[Anonymous No.6449992]

>>6449732
Amy for the healing, Hugh if you want more attack options, especially when fighting biomonsters. Hugh falls off hard about midway though due to enemies changing over to robots for a bit.

[Anonymous No.6450002]

>>6449862
neat

[Anonymous No.6450010]

>>6449984
ok, retranslation patch it is then! Thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.6450023]

>>6449984
>If you are okay with playing with PSG music, then Collection version is fine.
PS1 on the collection lets you switch to FM, dude.

>>6449932
>If I got PS Collection on PS2, would that version of PS1 be fine?
It was fine for a lot of people, long as you go in knowing that certain names and terms aren't 1:1 to the japanese version. It's fine for the game itself, but playing the sequels you'll start to notice the discrepancies because the NA localizers kept changing things around. If that kind of thing bothers you, play the retranslation instead.

[Anonymous No.6450031]

>>6450023
>PS1 on the collection lets you switch to FM, dude.
Pretty sure the english version on the disc doesn't get that option, only the japanese version. Sucks, I know.

[Anonymous No.6450074]

>>6450023
>PS1 on the collection lets you switch to FM, dude.
Switch version does. Collection only uses FM music only for japanese version, if I remember correctly.

[Anonymous No.6450219]

>>6449898
What kind of improvements does the PS2 collection have for PS 2-4? The collection's pretty expensive online on top of me needing to get a region breaking mod for my PS2 just to play it - is it that much of an improvement over the regular console releases/any other rereleases?

[Anonymous No.6450289]

>>6450219
if you had a PS3 you can get the collection via JP PSN, I thing you change your region and buy it that way

Besides having both japanese and english versions of all the games on the disc, you can also tweak things like faster walking speed in PS2 and 3, increase EXP/meseta gain from battle and some other stuff

[Anonymous No.6450296]

>>6450219
You can increase walking speed and amount of EXP and money gained, all that will improve PS2 and PS3 experience a lot. But if you have to ship game from Japan and mod your console to play it, it's not worth it.
You can just play on an emulator using improvement patches detailed in this post >>6446842

[Anonymous No.6450307]

>>6425023
Pro tip for RPGs especially older ones. Talk to everyone multiple times until you exhaust dialog options.

[Anonymous No.6450431]

>>6447552
On the town closer to the Ladea tower. All the region after the quicksand east the cave to Tonoe will have some blue worms. Let one alive and it will bury down(on the next turn if it attacked). The big, baddass one will emerge from the dust. Be prepared because it is way stronger than the ranch's one and also has a earthquake skill that gives great damage to every member. Normally only Gryzz can survive one single attack from it.

[Anonymous No.6450435]

>>6449013
If I remember right is that dezolian tower, yes? Kek

[Anonymous No.6450438]

>>6449732
I always used Ami and Rudolf. The anti tech guy that I forgot the name is great too and can paralyze EVERY machine.

[Anonymous No.6450484]

>>6450296
>if you have to
Well, if not playing the original disc, how do you play your copy?

[Anonymous No.6450983]

>>6449732
As many women as possible for Rolf's harem

[Anonymous No.6451861]

>>6450983

[Anonymous No.6451907]

[Anonymous No.6451918]

>>6450435
yeah, shit's wild

[Anonymous No.6452123]

I would like to play the first game. What is anons preferred SMS emulator?

[Anonymous No.6452134]

>program a game w/ 4 endings that rely on choices you make during two pivotal moments
>only two save slots available
dumb

Midway through the second generation. Chose to marry Maia because Lena didn't want it hard enough. Now I'm a mutt named Ayn, on my way to back to Landen for some android payback. Did I make the right choice? Which 2nd gen scenario do you like better, Attack of the 'Droids or Revenge of the Layans?

[Anonymous No.6452141]

>>6452123
I use Fusion. There's probably better ones out there now.

[Anonymous No.6452167]

>>6452141
Retranslation? How bad is the original?

[Anonymous No.6452215]

Do the people from earth win at the end of 2

[Anonymous No.6452331]

>>6446542
Good advice

[Anonymous No.6452461]

>>6452215
It seems a little strange that Lutz would teleport the others up to join you for an unwinnable fight

[Anonymous No.6452697]

For anyone getting interested in the original game, the retranslation patch is about to hit official version 2.0. If you're like me and don't want to wait, the newest built version of the patch is here:
https://ci.appveyor.com/project/maxim-zhao/psrp/build/artifacts
GitHub project with list of changes is here:
https://github.com/maxim-zhao/psrp

[Anonymous No.6452838]

>>6452167
not really too bad all things considered, just inaccurate
Sega made lots of changes in order to fit names and terms into character limits

More importantly, it plays FM audio now in emulators that support it, and real hardware if they have the FM add-on.

[Anonymous No.6452851]

>>6452697
I've been following this too, but I'll wait until it's out of beta. I'm not in a hurry to replay PS1 right now anyway.

[Anonymous No.6452863]

>>6452697
Oh? What're the differences between this and the current version up on romhacking.net? I had no idea it was still being worked on.

[Anonymous No.6452926]

>>6452215
Their evil plot is ruined, but they vastly outnumber the party and I believe the implication is that the Earthmen come out alive (and the party doesn't), forced to give up on their ambitions. Presumably they'd have to assimilate into Parman society on Motavia but who knows, that's a tale that can never be told now.

[Anonymous No.6452931]

>>6452863
extra options

[Anonymous No.6452950]

>>6445684
>Also, FUCK Anti and other spells in games that can fail multiple times in a row
That's why I said it's a neat idea. But with some additions like having certain spell levels contain passive boosts, upgrades, and conditional effects would take that neat idea and make it into a really fun and fleshed out magic system that would still fit the scope of the game.

[Anonymous No.6454156]

>>6452461
He is getting rid of any witnesses.

[Anonymous No.6455478]

>>6454156
he's an accomplished esper who helped save the world once before

the FUCK is he doing on the sidelines while his former partner/maybelover's descendant is risking his life on an enemy ship?

should've been a member of the party

[Anonymous No.6455515]

>>6455478
Yes, I completed PS Generation 2 today and was thinking exactly this. You are a powerful wizard and have a mansion full of maybe not full-fledged espers, but acolytes who are still capable of doing something, and yet you only send other friends of Eusis to fight this hopeless fight.
The only reason I can think of is that he thinks his life and memories (which are still not preserved in a crystall ball) are more important for the future of Algo. Dark Force is already defeated in this 1000 years cycle, Mother Brain is destroyed and even if Eusis and his party die fighting Earthlings, they will still deal them damage Earthlings won't be able to recover from. So he chose to remain on sidelines this time and prepare for the next return of DF.

[Anonymous No.6456286]

>>6455515
The ending of the game is such a bummer, but you have to admit it certainly has balls.

[Anonymous No.6456376]

>>6418586
I got Phantasy Star 2 in the Genesis collection on Switch.
Does this shit ever get good, or should I just skip to Phantasy Star 4?

[Anonymous No.6456390]

>>6456376
I'd say it gets good if you like games that'll kick your ass and not hold your hand. And I don't think the Genesis Collection allows you to tweak settings to make it easier? Otherwise, you might be better off with something like PS4 that's ease you in.

[Anonymous No.6456393]

>>6455478
It's entirely possible he can't fight anymore. He seems old and weak and has to sleep in a techno coffin to remain alive and looking young, but perhaps the youthfulness is just for show, eh. I find it reasonable.

[Anonymous No.6456418]

>Sega complaint department
>"I wish I was drawn better."

>>6456393
if anything that would be a good excuse to allow him in your party, he won't be game-breaking overpowered like Deis/Bleu in BoFII.

[Anonymous No.6456430]

>>6456390
The genesis collection allows you to double the speed by holding down R. I can’t imagine how unbearably slow this game would be without that feature. Right now I’m at the town of Zema. I don’t know how far that is, but so far, everything looks exactly the same. All the dungeons are just factories. Does this game even have bosses?

[Anonymous No.6456452]

>>6456430
oh, it has fast forward? Can it rewind, too?

>Does this game even have bosses?
bosses are super rare in the game, but when they show up they don't disappoint in the fuck-you-up department.

[Anonymous No.6456509]

>>6456452
>Can it rewind, too?
yes

[Anonymous No.6457025]

>>6448979
... wait a minute...
what's the source of that image? Looks like they took the portraits from the Text Adventures and touched them up to look more like what'd you see in PSII or even PSIV. And a few of them show up in that old PSIV presentation video: >>6456390
Probably just an example of appropriating old/unfinished assets but it's got my mind racing.

A PSII remake using the PSIV engine would have been kino.

[Anonymous No.6457164]

>>6418586
Picked PS1 up at a local 2nd hand shop recently


Already owned PS2 and PS4

Guess i know what i'll be playing in these stay inside because of corona days

[Anonymous No.6457576]

>>6456376
Find a rom hack that gives you double meseta and 1.5-2x xp as well as fast walk speed.

Unfortunately rafters or clouds will always obscure your vision.

[Anonymous No.6458632]

[Anonymous No.6458639]

>>6446668
Woah!

[Anonymous No.6458935]

>not making perler bead portraits of your Algoian waifus to hang on your wall

[Anonymous No.6458939]

>>6458935

[Anonymous No.6458945]

>>6458935
I used to be friends with a dude online who was into perler bead shit for vidya. He also wanted to be a successful amateur wrestler, oddly enough.

[Anonymous No.6460037]

>>6458632
何?

[Anonymous No.6461337]

Post more good quality Phantasy Star fan art.

[Anonymous No.6461351]

I want to fuck Mieu

[Anonymous No.6462053]

>>6461337
normally this is when someone comes in and reposts a bunch of Iseken/Iskun art but these threads get plenty of that already... so I'll share this instead

[Anonymous No.6464000]

>>6461337
>I can be your angel or devil

[Anonymous No.6464161]

Getting close to wrapping up my playthrough of Phantasy Star III. Went Rhys -> Ayn -> Sean/Crys (yeah, I'm doing both of them). Up to the point where you have to gather up the legendary weapons so that they can be strengthened even further. Realizing that the hack I've been playing with probably makes battles effortless due to giving all of Wren's guns past his initial equipment the ability to strike an entire row of enemies. I thought attack magic in this game was already pointless in the vanilla game but at least you were able to shore up damage to get rid of mobs, now it's pretty much worthless as Wren does most of the heavy lifting now.

Not that I'm complaining. Anything that makes the tedious battles go by quicker is a good thing... just didn't expect it to be a complete cakewalk. Oh well. Guess I'll be firing up PSIV sooner rather than later.

[Anonymous No.6465549]

I think this one is by Gravity Daze illustrator.