/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6439497]

Why didn't NES take off in Europe?

[Anonymous No.6439507]

Because Europeans are more interested in flashy graphics than good gameplay.

[Anonymous No.6439508]

It was released late, and the region had a healthy home computer market at the time.

[Anonymous No.6439527]

>>6439497
Because Europeans have good taste, unlike amerisharts.

[Anonymous No.6439528]

>>6439507
/thread

[Anonymous No.6439530]

>>6439497
It cost money

[Anonymous No.6439540]

>>6439497
Home Computers and the Master System already dominated.

[Anonymous No.6439562]

Define Europe.
It was the most common system in Norway before the SNES arrived.

[Anonymous No.6439606]

>>6439507
Why do they like shit like Gothic then?

[Anonymous No.6439634]

>>6439497
It did though, you uneducated mutt. Stop using Wikipedia as as a source for once.

[Anonymous No.6439742]

Very few people in Spain owned a console before the fourth generation. The NES here only arrived in late 1987, with barely any previous advertisements, and with a reduced catalogue (no Zelda, no SMB!). Only around 1990 consoles really took off in Spain.

[Anonymous No.6439759]

They were too poor so they had to settle with their shit micro computers like muh speccy

[Anonymous No.6439764]

>>6439634
Look mate, I am sure in your posh mansion in Ascot you had an NES, but I never knew a kid who had one growing up here in the UK.

[Anonymous No.6439771]

The NES was expensive and Nintendo released games late and in horribly butchered PAL conversions that ran at about 20 fps. Also there were no game rentals in Europe. In addition, a lot of people perceived it as outdated and crude compared with the Amiga. Computers were expensive at the initial point of purchase but then for a one-time fee you got unlimited cheap or free games.

[Anonymous No.6439804]

>>6439497
hard to sell game consoles to people who haven't invented electricity yet

[Anonymous No.6439878]

The 8-bits microcomputer era was much more fun than whathever the NES offered. Even some of the crap games had lots of SOUL, and the british magazines scene was amazingly funny. Also, I hated the muddy and dark NES color palette even back then. When nintendo games were starting to improve, Mega Drive was already released.

[Anonymous No.6439883]

>>6439562
>Define Europe.
OK
>Europe
>noun
>UK /ˈjʊə.rəp/
>US /youropoor/
>The continent that is to the east of the Atlantic Ocean, to the north of the Mediterranean, and to the west of Asia. More that Norway.

[Anonymous No.6439885]

>>6439497
Mini PC was the go to, like the zx and so on.

[Anonymous No.6439892]

>>6439771
>no game rentals in Europe
most countries had game rentals

[Anonymous No.6439895]

The NES was reasonably popular here in Finland, maybe the C64 was more popular or about the same from what I've seen and heard. Generalizing Europe in this case does not help much since you got nearly 3 dozen different markets all with different conditions.

[Anonymous No.6439908]

>>6439878
>The 8-bits microcomputer era was much more fun than whathever the NES offered
This has gotta be a troll, right? Nobody could be this dumb. A lot of Euro home computer games were barely even "games" at all.

>horrible controls
>nearly impossible difficulty
>games often had bugs and would crash at some point or else had no real ending to them

>Also, I hated the muddy and dark NES color palette
How's this dark and muddy?

[Anonymous No.6439947]

>>6439908
>This has gotta be a troll, right? Nobody could be this dumb. A lot of Euro home computer games were barely even "games" at all.
A lot of NES games were really better designed, but the 8-bits computer scene of the 80s was amazing in its own way: the games, the crazy concepts, the magazines, all the different kind of computers each one with it own graphic aesthetics, etc. I played a lot of NES games at friend houses back in the day and never felt the need to get one. As an adult I appreciate much more the NES but I'm glad I experienced the 8-bits computer era as a kid.

>>6439908>How's this dark and muddy?
It had some colorful games, but I believe Masteer System had a much more rich color palette (even if it was a worse console as games is concerned)

[Anonymous No.6440060]

>>6439771
>talking from my ass
>the post

[Anonymous No.6440086]

>>6439764
>>6439497
There was no videogame crash, and thus NES was far less impressive to Europeans than it was to Americans.

However while being less popular in general, NES still had significant market here, in late 80's about half the kids in my class had a NES, so saying it didn't "take off" is misinformed. Most of those who could afford one had it.

[Anonymous No.6440172]

>>6439771
>my "eastern european" caliphate is europe

[Anonymous No.6440217]

>>6439895
lol no. you had the soviet market aka you and poor mans america aka western europe.

[Anonymous No.6440239]

Nes fucking blows

Graphics are disgusting

Gameplay is terrible and primitive, it’s like glorified stick figures moving on screen

[Anonymous No.6440240]

>>6440239
zoom

zoom

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[Anonymous No.6440251]

Because Nintendo didn't care about it.

It took a Swedish guy a lot of begging and lying to start selling Nintendo products in Europe, years after they were being released elsewhere.

Once it was there though it was all the shit.
There is a reason why parents would call consoles "Nintendos".
I knew more people who had a NES or who were interested in it than the SMS.

[Anonymous No.6440254]

>>6440217
>soviet
>market

[Anonymous No.6440264]

>>6440240
Make my heart go BOOM BOOM, my super nova girl!

[Anonymous No.6440276]

>>6440254
>>soviet
>market
yes

[Anonymous No.6440282]

>>6439497
We were too cheap for cartridges.

[Anonymous No.6440293]

>>6439497
The need of doing different language localizations and luv me speccy, luv me amiger.

[Anonymous No.6440295]

>>6439908
Wasn't Kirby's Adventure made with ridiculous NES wizardry at the end of the system's life? Its not really representative.
Mario VS Alex Kidd would seem like a more fair comparison.

[Anonymous No.6440296]

>>6440264
>look this up
>zoomer disney shit
pottery

[Anonymous No.6440315]

It was released very late. In some countries like Spain the Master System was released before the NES. Partly because Nintendo didn't directly distribute their consoles at that time, they were dependent on other companies.

To give you some perspective, it was released so late that famiclones were already quite common.

[Anonymous No.6440353]

Never heard of Master system until like 2006. People seem to overestimate the popularity of Sega in Europe

[Anonymous No.6440356]

>>6439497
Because it was released many years later at a time when video games was entirely for small groups of nerds and rich families with young kids, who already were spending their money elsewhere.

I grew up yuropoor so I got the NES in 1991.

[Anonymous No.6440357]

>>6440353
Same thing in Brazil, people love to claim SMS is OMG SO POPULAR IN BRAZIL EVEN TODAY!, but the reality is that back in the early 90s, Famiclones were the real common thing, and by the time TecToy started licensing the Master System, Mega Drive was out, so most people went with the newer system instead.
But people like to spread the myth of Master System being a revered system in Europe/Brazil, for some reason. I don't think they do it on purpose, they just learnt hat brazil still produces Master System and they just guess that then it must be super popular, but it's not.

[Anonymous No.6440380]

>>6439497
Eurofags perfered amigas.
>>6439764
Limeys are dumb.
>>6439883
Based
>>6440251
Were they sold at Ikeas?
>>6440276
In soviet union, the games play you.

[Anonymous No.6440410]

>>6439771
>horribly butchered PAL conversions
No one gave a shit or even knew the difference. People coming from speccys and the C64 would gladly have played those PAL games.
>Also there were no game rentals in Europe
Home computer games were cheap enough to buy and consoles not really established yet.
>The NES was expensive
This was the big reason, lack of good marketing the other one. It's similar to how the SMS failed in burgerland.

[Anonymous No.6440425]

>>6440353
>Never heard of Master system until like 2006. People seem to overestimate the popularity of Sega in Europe
It really depends of what part of Europe are we talking about. The Master System was pretty famous in Spain in the late 80s / early 90s.

[Anonymous No.6440568]

>amerifags still not understanding that it only says how much things have sold over the whole continent and not understanding that every country within the continent had a different market with a compleltly different popularity

[Anonymous No.6440573]

>>6439497
It did eventually.

[Anonymous No.6440578]

>>6439497
With the Soviet Union still being a thing for most of the NES's lifespan that limited the market a lot.

[Anonymous No.6440610]

>>6440264
cringe

[Anonymous No.6440942]

>>6440239
>THE NES IS TRASH M8, THE GRAPHICS ARE SHITE, NOT LIKE ME SPECCY! HORACE IS SUPERIOR TO MARIO YA CUNT!

[Anonymous No.6441253]

>>6439562
Scandinavia was an outlier thanks to Bergsala going hard af on marketing it here.

[Anonymous No.6441698]

>>6439497
The cheap microcomputer revolution happenned before the NES so it was a real hard sell to buy a closed-source console compared to a more practical computer with games that were three times cheaper than a NES cartridge.

[Anonymous No.6441719]

nice source

[Anonymous No.6441723]

>>6441698
That happened in the US before Europe even had microcomputers.

[Anonymous No.6441739]

Why didn't Master System take off in NA though?

[Anonymous No.6441752]

As some other people said, it was just released much later. It was most definitely popular, once it did. It's not rocket science.

[Anonymous No.6441760]

Slav here. Nintendo have had and still has really shitty business model. Just checked and a lot of their 2+ year old Switch games still cost 60 dollars. I don't know anyone that would be willing to pay such a ridiculous price for a game even if it was new.

[Anonymous No.6441784]

>>6439507
Explain the Spectrum still getting releases into the 90s.

[Anonymous No.6441785]

The Master System was marketed ineptly in North America, had a crap game library, and Nintendo also walled out Sega by forbidding developers to put out games for other systems (eventually ended when a court ruled that they were in violation of anti-trust statutes).

[Anonymous No.6441806]

>>6441784
Poverty-induced brain damage.

[Anonymous No.6442025]

The Nes was release in Europe in late 1988.
Nintendo Europe was founded in 1990, Nintendo UK, Germany, France and spain in 1993.
The distribution was a bit chaotic.

[Anonymous No.6442042]

>>6439497
because this thing existed and it had lots of free games

[Anonymous No.6442043]

>>6441739
Tonka and NoA's 3rd party monopoly.

[Anonymous No.6442053]

>>6439771
>Also there were no game rentals in Europe.
Erm, yes there was retard. I rented games all throughout my childhood. Rented a Mega Drive a couple times too. Stop spouting shite.

[Anonymous No.6442075]

>>6440425
This. I never knew anyone with a legit NES (not a famiclone) while some of us had a Master System. I even remember games being on sale for it until like 1995/1996.

[Anonymous No.6442153]

>>6440380
>Eurofags perfered amigas.
In western europe teenage nerds preferred amigas. But they were never very widespread because they just cost too much.
Older people had PCs, children got consoles or low end home computers.
In eastern europe most people could at best afford famiclones and home computers. PCs at home were very unusual until the late 1990s.

[Anonymous No.6442163]

When you get down to brass tacks, Europoors were poor and couldn't afford an expensive NES game.

[Anonymous No.6442169]

>>6441739
Nintendo and their
>WE SAVED YOU WE ARE LITERALY JESUS
and of course pic related

[Anonymous No.6442315]

>>6440357
Thanks dude, I always have to rant about this every time there's a thread about the popularity of the SMS, but this time you saved me the hassle