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6480221 No.6480221 [Reply] [Original]

how did people beat games without saves states back in the day, did everyone use cheat codes or action replay?

>> No.6480226

no internet so people had more time to get good out of sheer boredom. you can see an identical decline in skill across all of the arts

>> No.6480227

If you were a middle class boy on elementary to high school you had almost unlimited free time in the world to git gud and a limited amount of games as you had no income of your own.

>> No.6480236

Dumb, dumb frogposter.

>> No.6480239

>>6480236
Dumb, dumb reply.

>> No.6480241

Games weren't treated as disposable trash back then, you actually played them many times and got good.

>> No.6480253

Don't listen to anyone that says 'git gud'
These are the type of people that still play Sega genesis in their 40s. Real people would use cheat codes or only play the first couple levels, get bored of the difficulty curve and quite. Most people recognized retro game loops were the absolute bottom rung of waste of time and life so retro games were for children and failures in life.

>> No.6480275

>>6480221
honor and a benis

>> No.6480276

They weren't braindead like zoomers. That's pretty much it.

>> No.6480281

>>6480253
Now this is what an insecure faggot projecting looks like.

>> No.6480295

>>6480281
No shit. The only cheat code me and my friends ever used was for Contra.

>> No.6480298

>>6480221
most people never beat their games

>> No.6480302

Patience and playing several times

>> No.6480318

>>6480281
>>6480295
t. People that still play sega genesis in their 40s

>> No.6480323

I think people would be fixated on their favorite games, or the few games they could get their hands on as a kid, and play them nonstop, get really good at them out of pure muscle memory. You didn't have the luxury to move to a different game as easily as today.

Still, you would only get that deep on a handful of games. Today's "retro gamer" culture pretends you're gonna be that good and perfectionist with ALL retro games you play, you're "retarded" if you can't 1cc an arcade game, etc. Somehow, loser millenials and Youtube-fed zoomers turned this into a pissing contest for posers and helpless losers. >>6480253 has a point.

>> No.6480357
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>>6480221
Cheat devices and strategy guides my man

>> No.6480372

>>6480221
Lots of free time and being a kid meant not having much money, so you got a couple of games a year that you had to squezze the most of them. I still can't believe I got a 100% in Dynamite Headdy despite nos having savestates in those days.

Sometimes you played a really hard game and so you had to find cheats for that game in magazines in case the game was worth finishing.

>> No.6480378

>>6480221
trying... repeatedly... ?

>> No.6480382

>>6480221
The only game I had that I couldn't beat from regular play was Battletoads and I beat it with unlimited lives via a Game Genie.

>> No.6480386

People used to play games themselves and naturally just git gud via practice instead of watching others and thots on streaming jewsites

>> No.6480395

>>6480221
Most people who played games never beat them

>> No.6480403

why were games so hard back in the day?

>> No.6480419

>>6480226
>games
>art

>> No.6480429

>>6480403
Because console games were $60 each (maybe almost $100 in todays dollar) so devs thought artificially increasing the game's length is a good idea.

That, and people in the past just sucked at game design. They didnt know the features and convenience we know today, and most of them just plagiarized each other anyway.

>> No.6480432

We replayed the hell out of them. Could only afford 1 or 2 games ever 1.5 yrs.
Castlevania was brutal.

>> No.6480434

>>6480403
If you only have budget to get a couple of games a year, an easy game is a waste of money. Also, arcade games were really exciting and you wanted the same difficulty for the console ports (which usually were much easier).

>> No.6480565

>>6480318
Is that supposed to be an insult? Do you know where you are?

>> No.6480587

>>6480236
It's okay to frog post

>> No.6480590

>>6480221
You didn't always beat games. I owned tons of games that I never beat, and actually beating a game was an accomplishment to brag about. Games weren't made to be accessible consumable items like they are now.

>> No.6480591

>>6480221
Most games weren't actually that hard, you just had to play them repeatedly until you could reach the end. As pointed out, people generally owned way less games, so you would spend a lot of time with them. But it's also true that a lot of games never got finished. That's still true today even, but back then I'd say there was less of an expectation you could beat every game you play. Beating a game felt like more of an accomplishment than just getting to the end.

There were also plenty of games back then which weren't any harder than modern games.

>> No.6480592

>>6480226
I watch Lady Gaga dance and then I go back and watch Madonna dance in Truth or Dare and wow.

>> No.6480594

>>6480221
Getting game overs over and over and over and over and over again, dying over and over and over and over again. Until you finally learned and memorized the game well enough to beat it.

Game makers had to make these short and expensive games last so you didn’t feel ripped off, so you make the game really hard so you get many hours out of it trying to win.

>> No.6480605

>>6480221
Back in the day, you usually got your parents to buy you a game 3-4 times a year at most. Birthday, christmas, maybe if there's one on sale when you catch them in a good mood and then either Easter or a siblings birthday or whatever.
What this meant was playing the same games a lot. A LOT.
I can still beat Sonic 2 on one life, because I played that one game for fucking months on end back in the day.

Now you just download everything and use added on features. You're spoiled.

>> No.6480621

>>6480605
This. Also with practice a lot of impossible games will are eventually beatable.

I replayed Ninja Gaiden recently without using save states (except on the level starts) I got to level 7 or so and abandoned it. If I put more time into it I could probably beat it.

>> No.6480658

>>6480565
A forum with a high sampling bias

>> No.6480669

i'd tell you to git gud but you're a frogtard so you're incapable of it so piss off instead

>> No.6481323

>>6480221
you practiced and practiced a single game for years. It was like the speed running of the 80's/90's.

>> No.6481512

>>6480605
Good times...

>> No.6481527

>>6480221
If you had one single new game to play for six months you'd git damn gud at it too.
Some of the NES games I just accepted I would never be able to finish but I'd just try to go as far as I could and that was the fun

>> No.6481547

>>6480221
they got gud, you hopelessly lazy zoomer

>> No.6481770

>>6480221
People were much better at games back then. And fortenite and tiktiok didn't exist

>>6480253
>all that cope
lol

>> No.6481793

I find with a lot of older difficult games especially the more hard NES games, its just luck. You just play and play and play until eventually you end up beating that stage because the right pattern appears to dodge or hit or the right weapon appears or whatever.

>> No.6481830

>>6480221
I definitely had a Game Genie but it was for games like Battletoads just to see the other 2/3 of the game

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>>6480221
Like everyone else is saying, you owned one or two games your mom and dad got you and you got really fucking good at them.

My mom and I beat pic related when I was like 5. We didn't know the final boss regenerated health if you stopped hitting him, just assumed he had a lot of hp.

>> No.6481861

>>6480403
because most people rented games, and most games were relatively short due to development time and space limitations, so to ensure your game isn't beaten in just one rental, you need to make your game hard enough to take longer to beat

>> No.6482325

>>6480226
This is basically it.

>> No.6482339

>>6480419
it is

>> No.6482430

Kids back then had more time and imagination. Once it was the weekend or summer, you were pretty much isolated from the outside world and your friends. So what are you going to do? Play video games, that's what you do. You're bored with them Marios and Megamans, so you decide to give that shitty hard game a proper spin. You die and die and die, but eventually you get better. Then at some point you'll become good enough to beat the game, and it feels great. Twenty years later you wonder how come you didn't use that spare time to learn play guitar, or learn to draw, put more effort in your homework, or go talk to the nice girl living across the street. Such is life.

>> No.6482493

>>6480253
OK zoomer with a thousand ROMs
You never experienced one single game you ever "beaten"
Might as well watch other people play it on Youtube

>> No.6482498

>>6480221
because people actually used to have an attention span and not be spoiled by the things you mentioned. it's sad

>> No.6482515

>>6480221
We didn't have a whole lot of games to choose from, so it was natural to get really good at a select few.

>> No.6482523

>>6480372
>>6480221
so comfy that so many answers are the same

my friends and i were poor, we had few games and obsessed over them

sometimes we rented games and then would play them all night, would usually go badly

sometimes you'd spend LOTS of time at a friend's house just to play one game. a """rich""" friend had a sega CD and it was SO FUCKING STRESSFUL beating sonic cd on there, specifically metal sonic race, i remember thinking "i need to win this time because i'm not sure when i'm visiting this friend again"

my closest friend had some different tastes than me and his abilities in those games were incomprehensibly wizardly to me, and vice versa.

i'm still eerily good at a few of those old games if you hand them to me. everything still completely memorized.

>> No.6482547

>>6480226
>you can see an identical decline in skill across all of the arts

t. Someone who does not consume the arts

>> No.6482559

>>6480221
My dad wouldn't buy me a new one until I could show him the end screen of the last game he bought me

>> No.6482564

>>6480221
I'm not sure about other anons, but it was slightly rare for me to actually "beat" some of the games I had as a kid. Beating one was hard and special.

Still. I'm not sure how I beat all the megaman games at age 8 or so with no cheats considering how dumb I was

>> No.6482598

>>6480253
>real people
Y’all getting baited so hard

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>>6482559
Based parenting quite frankly

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>>6480221
Nope, you just kept on playing and playing, even if it meant replaying a whole level from start to finish 100x. I did this with Battletoads as a kid and it took me the better part of my childhood just to get past the turbo tunnel. I definitely appreciate the advances in gameplay that have been made since then, but it almost makes me wish video games were inaccessible for most people.

>> No.6482970 [DELETED] 

>>6480221
We were simple better

>> No.6482972

>>6480221
We were simply better

>> No.6483084

>>6482339
It's at best a sport.

>> No.6483331

>>6480221
Why is every pepe thread a complete waste of space?

>> No.6484123

>>6480226
this

also, less games to play. you bought this one game and you played it over and over and over. or rent it for a week or so.

>> No.6484130

>>6482559
Sure hope you didn't get Dr. Jekyll

>> No.6484137

>>6480419
retard

>> No.6484138

>>6483084
educate yourself.

>> No.6484147

>>6484137
Games are 99% trash and kitsch, just like movies

>> No.6484149

>>6483331
DIL8

>> No.6484171

Before having internet there was really fuck all to do... unless you wanted to end up on a milk carton.

>> No.6484247

>>6480221
If you fail, try try again.
A lot of people complain about the loss of progress (save for passwords) but most of these games were about under an hour. It's pretty fulfilling feeling beating the game's challenge

>> No.6484257

>>6484149
lactate, fatass.

>> No.6484409

>>6484147
>just like movies
just like everything
games, movies, books, paintings, theater... 99% of all things in these mediums are dogshit, which is why people talk only about the really good stuff in each unless they like the medium as a whole

>> No.6484419

>>6483331
because frogposters are electionfags

>> No.6484447

What retarded raid discord is behind this thread this time?

>> No.6485352

>>6482559
daddy raised no quitter.