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6692453 No.6692453 [Reply] [Original]

itt: shitty games you still kind of enjoy somehow

>> No.6692464

A game doesn't have to be perfect to be enjoyable

I feel like the Adventure series has gone through one of the biggest history revisions of any other game I know of, or at least the public opinion of these games has completely shifted and I don't know why. Adventure was widely praised at the time. People loved it. And for Sonic's first foray into 3D, especially the sonic stages, I still think they nailed the physics and stage design here better than anything that came after. Like Mario 64, Sonic just feels great to control and the stage design compliments just how much momentum he can build up

Is the game a little janky? Yeah. Do some of the scripted sequences break if you fuck around too much? They do. Are the Big stages kind of lame? Sure. But as someone who grew up with the classic series and considers 3&K to be one of the most impressive platformers ever made, I fucking loved Adventure and still do, and the sheer disdain for it these days seems so odd and manufactured to me when it used to be a pretty loved game

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>>6692464
>Adventure was widely praised at the time. People loved it.
Fuck off and die. Sick of this rhetoric.

>> No.6692473
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sonic adventure isn't a bad game at all, it is a fine transistion into 3D, there are secret power ups and level skips everywhere, it cleverly makes use out of the worlds with multiple characters and different varieties of gameplay (not too dissimilar to the OG titles) my favorite parts are the exploring the overworld, the hidden special chao were really cool, and so is the lite-metroidvania elements of gaining power ups

based game, plebian filter really

>> No.6692483

>>6692471
GameSpot gave it a 9.2. IGN gave it an 8.6. The metacritic score for the dreamcast release is an 89%. I have EGM magazines from its release with nothing but praise. It was a well received game

>> No.6692490

>inb4 zelda, mario, chrono trigger, ff, crash, and uh... zoop

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>>6692483
Nobody cares. And like I said, I'm sick of your rhetoric. So fuck off and die.

>> No.6692523

>>6692464
FPBP

>> No.6692550

>>6692464
What about Adventure 2? I personally didn't like that game as much as it took away a lot of what I liked about SA1

>> No.6692554

>>6692492
Didn't school start back up for you little fuckers yet?

>> No.6692593

>>6692554
Children are the ones who still use rhetoric like that.

>> No.6692598

>>6692453
Nobody ever liked it, ZOOMER.

>> No.6692617

>>6692453
FFFFFFUCK YOU

>> No.6692658

>>6692471
>>6692492
Nobody cares but here you are shitposting

>> No.6692659

>>6692658
Yeah that’s right, because you’re stinking up MY BOARD with this zoomer tier trash shit

>> No.6692664

>>6692659
Anon you’re the only unwanted one here. 4chan has a hide function and if you have 4chan gold you can automatically hide any Dreamcast thread you’d like and never see it. There’s even scripts people have made for this purpose if you can’t afford 4chan gold. Shitposting is against the rules unlike this thread. Maybe you should re-evaluate your life choices. Go get laid, join the military, get a job. Just stop posting on here please and let people talk about video games

>> No.6692667

>>6692664
I already got laid once today, the military is for turkeys and I own my own business. Now back to what I was saying: get your stupid diaper wearing zoomer ass back to /v/ before I paddle you silly

>> No.6692695

Is Athena on NES considered a good game? It's clunky as fuck, but I like all of the stuff that's in it.

>> No.6692728

>>6692695
It’s a good game if you like it anon. I hope you enjoy it

>> No.6692734

>>6692728
Cope zoomer, you’ve obviously never even played it. Stop spreading your YouTube influences cancer on my board

>> No.6692893

>>6692728
The control of the game feels pretty bad, but there's so much cool stuff in it.

>> No.6692946

>>6692471
> Edge said Sonic Adventure was a worthy rival to Super Mario 64
> IGN called it the most graphically impressive platform game released up to that date, praising its cinematic sequences and describing it as "engrossing, demanding, and utterly awe-inspiring"
> GameSpot admired the straightforward, linear approach to the 3D platform genre and particularly praised it for keeping the basic gameplay of the original Genesis games
> GameSpot thought Sonic Adventure redefined the possibilities of the platform genre
> Edge said its criticisms such as scenery pop-up and instances of poor collision detection are "minor flaws in an otherwise very fine piece of work".
> AllGame wrote that the game was an impressive showing of the Dreamcast's potential and that it was among the best of the series
> It received critical acclaim, and Computer and Video Games (CVG) called it one of the greatest video games of all time
I refuse to believe you were alive and playing Sonic Adventure in 1999. You are pretending to be a boomer sick of revisionist history but everyone who was living through this game's release knows it had widespread critical acclaim in every magazine and online. You say you're sick of the rhetoric but I'm not sure you know what rhetoric means. This isn't an argument, it's historical fact. You aren't sick of rhetoric, you're sick of history.

>> No.6693073

>>6692667
Wow guys, look at the cool non-virgin!
Isn't he cool? He's a non-virgin amongst all the virgins! Cool!!

>> No.6693171

I never thought I’d say this but OP is a fag. Sonic Adventure is the best 3D Sonic game.

>> No.6693201

>>6692453
It's not shitty. Does it have flaws? Yes, but what game doesn't have flaws? Sonic Adventure is fun. I found it more fun than Mario 64 and I love that game.

>> No.6693357

>>6692593
>the game was well received
>HURR I LEARNED A NEW WORD
>here is evidence that the game was well received
>LOL I LOVE USING MY NEW WORD
i don't think you know what rhetoric means

>> No.6693359

>>6693073
your post would make more sense if I said that unprompted, zoomer.

>> No.6693369

>>6693359
you got issues faggot

>> No.6693376

>>6693369
why? because I can keep a cool head in a contentious situation? unlike some tantrum throwing diaper baby like yourself?

>> No.6693381

>>6692471
Sonic Adventure is loved. Compare to DK64, which came out around the same time.

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>>6693376
In case you haven't noticed this is a Sonic thread.
If you want to shout at kids to get off "your" lawn then make your way over to the /v2k/ meta thread instead of being a pasty manchild.

>> No.6693456

>>6693376
>I'M SICK OF YOUR RHETORIC!!!!!!! (i don't know what this word means)
>FUCK OF AND DIEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
>replies to everybody who responds to him
>claims not to be a tantrum throwing diaper baby
>this was all prompted by sonic the fucking hedgehog
lmao u fucking sperglord

>> No.6693464

>>6693456
hey now, most of those posts weren't me. don't get it twisted anon.
>>6693430
>If you want to shout at kids to get off "your" lawn then make your way over to the /v2k/ meta thread
why would I do that? that would be NOT RETRO

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>>6692453
Recently played this and it was janky as hell. Were the cutscenes supposed to be so flimsy?

>> No.6693481

>>6693474
*blows imaginary whistle* MOD SQUAD ASSEMBLE, THE ZOOMERS AT IT AGAIN *keeps playing whistle* MODDDDS

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>>6693464
>why would I do that? that would be NOT RETRO
You have a point. You're RETROACTIVELY ruining the discussion.

>> No.6694102

>>6692667
Hotel-chan strikes again.

>> No.6694218
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>enjoys a game
>calls it shitty anyways
>"so bad its good!!!!"

>> No.6694223

>>6693490
alright, i forgive you, carlosposting takes me back to when I was but a wee boomboom.

>> No.6694964
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>we will never get the huge, open levels that sonic team originally intended for sa1 because the dreamcast had a piece of shit of a hardware

>> No.6694984

>>6694964
It was actually because Adventure tried to avoid the trap of having shitty open 3d worlds like Mario to keep from having stupid goddamn camera and controller issues. It still had them, of course, but slightly less bad because it basically tried to run along a single track so you wouldn't have to awkwardly look around with a shitty camera and blindly jump somewhere where you couldn't tell what the fuck is going on thanks to bad controls and bad camera angles like Mario 64.
But go ahead and think the DC was bad, dumb kid. It was in fact the last decent console because even in the face of PS2, a console loaded with style-over-substance trash, DC at least tried to have actual, straightforward, fun games. Of course, dumb kids were already spoiled by bad style over substance trash games, so the PS2 won, ushering in the inevitable dumpster fire that is modern gaming.

>> No.6695104

>>6692464
I think it’s mainly down to the camera, it is pretty fucky and there has been hundreds of games now to get a 3D camera right, so in hindsight that hasn’t aged well at all.

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Quite a few PS1 games
>Incredible Crisis
Is shit because the gameplay is way too basic, and it repeats a few iterations of just "press a button very fast." I love it for the wild story, and the way the different arcs throughout the game interweave, and the music is really fun.

>Lego Racers
Is shit because the power-up system is broken (there are 4 pointless "defence" power-ups and some lower-level power-ups are better than higher-level ones) and victory in each race is guaranteed if you know the shortcut. I love it because you can build your own lego car and the track variety using different lego sets is really cute.

>Crash Bash
Is shit because it tried and failed to be mario party. Many levels feel unfair - if everyone gangs up on you in the polar bear or tank levels, you're going to lose. I find it fun because there were some really cool splashes of originality in some games. The pogo-stick painting, 4-way pong and dragon gem levels I'm especially fond of. They work really well in four player.

>> No.6695181

This game's not very good. The camera sucks and combat is janky and it got really maligned for not being like any other Castlevania games, but that's a lot of why I like it. It's the most atmospheric Castlevania game by far, and the creepy gothic feeling of the entire game is something I adore.

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>>6695181
Forgot to add the game cover

>> No.6695586

>>6692471
It's completely true.

>> No.6695596

>>6694964
It's the opposite, though. The wide open, largely empty level designs were scrapped in favor of narrow, scripted spectacle sequences that were designed to better show off the speed and power of the dreamcast.

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>> No.6697245

>>6695167
>mario patty
>fair

HUH ?

>> No.6697364

>>6692453
I have so many good memories surrounding the Adventure series. The games when you replay them by yourself are rather meh, but when I was playing for the first time with friends, they were so much fun. I can't bring myself to hate them.

>> No.6697874

The Mega Man X series past X5 is so frustrating and unrefined, but there's just something about the characters and setting that makes it impossible to hate.

>> No.6699297

>>6697245
lrn2read

>> No.6699316

>>6693474
I didn't think it was janky.

>> No.6699323

>>6699316
Well maybe your tastes aren’t very refined

>> No.6699580

>>6694984
>bad controls and bad camera angles like Mario 64.
Ever try hitting R and then C-Down? Dumb faggot.

>> No.6699583

>>6699580
kek why do you always say that?

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