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Moments when the game lost its innocence

>> No.7018673

>>7018662
aka when the game filtered me

>> No.7018680

>>7018662
Moments like that show why Sonic 1 was most inspired. It still had obstacles.

>> No.7018701

Having the defacto hardest zone in the middle and then having a "cooldown" zone (Starlight) was genius. They even acknowledge Labyrinth's purpose as the game's main filter when it reappears in Scrap Brain.

Sonic 1 is a great adventure game.

>> No.7018715

>>7018673
>>7018680
>>7018701
I'm not saying that it was a bad thing at all, just that it was a 'Alright, you've had your carefree fun, now wise up and watch this' moment when the game got more serious.

>> No.7018718
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>> No.7018724

>>7018680
Sonic 1 had a real stupid difficulty curve though and it revolves entirely around Labyrinth Zone. The game is cake until Labyrinth, then its cake again, then for shits and giggles more pain in the ass Labyrinth, then a laughably easy final boss.

>> No.7018729

>>7018662
>>7018673
>>7018680
>>7018701
>>7018715
>>7018724
Sonic was never good.

>> No.7018735
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OP is fucked for using a Sonic image now all the autists are gravitating kek

>> No.7018740
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7018740

This bitch.

>> No.7018745
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>>7018662
This map and Toxic Tower in DKC2.

>> No.7018746

>>7018662
I always though Marble Zone was harder than Labyrinth.

>> No.7018750

>>7018662
For me, it's the implied rape in Final Fantasy Tactics.

>> No.7018758

>>7018662
>Sonic 3
Marble Garden Zone, a grating gimmick stage with an admittedly good soundtrack, after the amazing Angel Island and HydroCity Zones

>> No.7018764
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just fuck my hitbox up

>> No.7018769

>>7018662
probably when Millenia shows up in Grandia 2 all horny and shit

>> No.7018775
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7018775

Much easier when you're older because the split-second coordination is much more advanced, but as a kid it was rough as fuck. For some reason the sound of the trolley crashing was frightening

>> No.7018780

>>7018662
when my Chao had sex

>> No.7018785

>>7018780
that was one lewd eskimo kiss animation

>> No.7018796
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7018796

By the time you got to the fire mountain levels you were a nervous wreck anyway

>> No.7018875
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>>7018662
This level was designed nicely. I’m on Zone 2 now.

>> No.7018895

>>7018701
Sonic 1 is a fine platformer but it doesn't fully realize the goal of integrating the pinball physics into the structure of the platforming.
Sonic 2 degenerates into a mess of repetitive and uninspired game design that is literally "hold right and jump" in some spots.
CD had a much better concept of how to use Sonic's physics but its lacking in execution
Only Sonic 3&K succeeds in fully grounding the level design into the basic mechanics of each character's movement options. The only meaningful addition to the 2D gameplay since has been Mania's drop dash.

>> No.7018901

>>7018875
based randomly posts his vita anon

>> No.7018915

>>7018745
The lava levels in the second world is when DKC2 officially stops fucking around

>> No.7018932

>>7018729
t. Nincel

>> No.7018962

>>7018895
White hands typed this

>> No.7018969

>>7018962
White people tend to have the cognitive skills necessary to do basic media analysis, yes

>> No.7018983

>>7018969
Then why are all the gaming and film reviewers Jewish?

>> No.7018996

>>7018746
Rofl this. That level is way unfun compared to the levels its sandwiched between. I'd gladly take labyrinth over it.

>> No.7019027

>>7018895
Yes, Sonic 1 has a great engine, but the pinball physics are a bit underused, instead opting for simpler momentum challenges. For an average classic 2D platformer it is pretty good all considered imo.
Sonic 2 empathizes on challenge and speedrunning, closer to what Yuji Naka envisioned for Sonic's main gameplay style, but that leaves levels being more or less empty hallways and exploration is punished too much so you'd rather just get off the level as fast as possible. I didn't enjoy it as much because the game also punishes you for speed and getting good at the levels is mostly memorization.
Sonic CD uses a lot of fun pinball-platforming setups which use the Sonic engine in a interesting way, but the level design isn't exactly genius, it feels like a sandbox or metroidvania sometimes, but I enjoyed it personally.
Sonic 3K brings all the best parts from 1, 2 and CD, I don't there's much else to say.

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>>7018745
I forgot this part from Gloomy Gulch. This level was a fucking bitch to finish too.
>>7018915
IMO, those levels were pretty easy. Personally, I think the game only starts to give you decent challenges after Bramble Scramble in Krazy Kremland.

>> No.7019048

>>7019027
Wholesome discussion and agreement poster
>>7019036
Yeah, Krazy Kremland is CBT but I always felt that world hinged on gimmicks more than core gameplay like the lava world did

>> No.7019068

>>7018729
Based

>> No.7019079

I enjoy sonic 1 and 2 infinitely more than the classic mario games.

I grew up with both systems when they released.

Sonic 1& 2 is pure SOUL

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>>7019079
Me too but...Wrong thread?

>> No.7019345

the pianta village ep in super mario sunshine with all the goop and you got fludd taken away

>> No.7019364
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>> No.7019958

wacky workbench

>> No.7020004

>>7018764
that one jump where you literally cannot dodge his mantis knives

>> No.7020017
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>>7018662
i love labyrinth zone, are you sure you are a gamer, anon?

>> No.7020075

>>7018983
implying jews arent white? lmao!

>> No.7020094

>>7020075
I bet you think turks and arabs are white, too.

>> No.7020175

>>7018764
heh heh heh , fuck these assholes

>> No.7020189

>>7019364
Maybe it's the Amerimutt in me, but I always saw that thing as a hamburger. What the fuck is it supposed to be?

>> No.7020196

>>7020189
a hamburger with pink legs

>> No.7020295 [DELETED] 

>>7019113
I dont get it

>> No.7020298

>>7019113
Oh I had written a longer post and then removed some so yeah that post seems weird and unrelated, sorry.

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>>7018662

>> No.7020659

>>7018701
I was so fucking pissed about scrap brain act 3, genuinely thought it was a bug at first. if they'd had a larger cart and more dev resources it would've had its own tileset instead of reusing labyrinth.

>> No.7020668

>>7020189
Its a medal with "presented by the SMB3 team"

>> No.7020769
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7020769

>level is fucking huge and consists of many floors and rooms
>some of the said floors and rooms can only be accessed with the worst and slowest transformation of the entire series
>full of annoying enemies
>you will need to do a ridiculous amount of backtracking to 100% this level
I finished Banjo-Tooie many years ago, but Grunty Industries is one of those levels that doesn't make me miss that game. Rare's "Bigger is better" policy in the N64 era was so stupid.

>> No.7021118

>>7020094
>Mixing religion with geography
Well done dumbass

>> No.7021126

>>7018724
Let them eat cake.

>> No.7021130

>>7021118
Ashkenazi is an ethnicity, retard.

>> No.7021132

>>7021118
>Jew
>not a geographical place
Ever heard of Israel, retard?

>> No.7021140

>>7021132
That idiot thinks ethnicity and geography are interchangeable terms for some reason, and you're an idiot for accepting that premise in your response.

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>>7018662

>> No.7021380

>>7021132
Israel = Israeli

Khazar = jew

>> No.7021393

any JRPG where the blatantly sexualised child character joins the party and the whole innocent vibe of the game is exposed as a sham

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>>7020189
Here's a higher res image

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>>7021393
You just made me realize rance is retro now!

>> No.7021440

>>7018932
>>incel
We tumblr now?

>> No.7021449

>>7021393
kek. I remember I just dropped lost odyessy over that crap.

>> No.7021454

>>7020017
I love it too you cocksucker, it's just objectively the moment when the game got serious
If I wanted to make a thread about moments when the game made me hate it I would make a thread about moments when the game made me hate it instead of moments when the game lost its fucking innocence

>> No.7021463

That's nothing compared to Sonic 2 (8-bit) zones.
That game fucking hates you.

>> No.7021493

>>7021380
Wrong.

Israel = True Jew
Khazar = False Jew

>> No.7021661

>>7021493
The true jews are black.

>> No.7021718

>>7021493
Yes but when someone is bashing Jews on the internet they are referring to Khazars

>> No.7021727

>>7021449
The kids in Lost Odyssey aren't sexualized, they're literally the MC's kids or grandkids or whatever and they're also voiced by Phil and Lil in the english dub. Stop being a schizo projecting your obsession with pedophilia onto everything.
The three fully adult, heavily sexualized female party members and the mage dude's whores are clear enough distinctions of the developers' tastes.

>> No.7021804

>>7021661
DAS RIIIIIITE

>> No.7021864

>>7021434
>For Super Player's
>The Mario's Staff
>burger

What in the fuck, did no one in japan knew english in the 80's?

>> No.7021870
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>>7021661
But were also enslaved the Pharaohs, who were also bleck. Y'all copy us AND enslave us baka. Free fucking Balestine, and Virgin Allah, pray for us.

>> No.7021875

>>7021870
Blacks are the beast of the field, you know, the ones that walk like men, and men dress to appear as man.

>> No.7021909

>>7021727
cope

>> No.7021928

>>7021909
Unironically dilate

>> No.7021932

>>7021864
Unironically
No

>> No.7021945
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>>7021928
in my opinion, this is not approproate for a child. I made a private decision to stop playing the game because I did not approve. I did not tell anyone about this except today, I did not try to get the game shit on or others to stop playing it. It was my own choice based on my own standard. Now stop being a whiney offended bitch because something I did in the privacy of my own game session offends your volatile sensibilities. shoo.

>> No.7022820

>>7021945
seething furfag

>> No.7022821

>>7021928
>>7021909
Autist vs Autist

>> No.7022835

>>7021945
The children wearing clothing that doesn't exactly fit and looks a bit too extravagant and oversized is part of their character arc. Pay a little closer attention to the story next time instead of being completely hypnotized by a 12-yearold's stomach.

>> No.7023332

>>7020769
Grunty Industries is the thinking man's Banjo world.

>> No.7023338

>>7021454
Lab Zone ramps up the difficulty. And thats a welcome thing in my book. Great music. Good background design. Why would anyone hate it.

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7023348

>>7022821

>> No.7023362

>>7018735
i can't play this game anymore because i can't stop thinking about clapping coon cheeks

>> No.7023481

>>7018740
arcade quarter eater thats what it was.

>> No.7024731

>>7021945
Pathetic

>> No.7024876

>>7021727
>they're also voiced by Phil and Lil in the english dub
This made it impossible to not laugh my ass off at the sad scenes.

>> No.7025368

>>7018983
>implying reviewers tend to have the cognitive skills necessary for basic media analysis