/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.7461730]

>muh sword

[Anonymous No.7461734]

>muh zap

[Anonymous No.7461912]

>muh rat

[Anonymous No.7461916]

>muh snot

[Anonymous No.7461927]

>>7461730
>muh rattle

[Anonymous No.7461936]

>muh phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range

[Anonymous No.7461940]

All these games are fantastic, except whatever the jap baby game is.

[Anonymous No.7461950]

>Muh dick

[Anonymous No.7462036]

>>7461940
>shitting on based Upa
Shame on you

[Anonymous No.7462139]

>>7461730

It's fine in the Mega Drive/ Genesis game, because Aladdin did have a sword. But it seems like nobody told that same artist to make Aladdin without a sword for the SNES box.

[Anonymous No.7462173]

you idiots, we've all got swords

[Anonymous No.7462176]

>>7462139
Even the Master System version of Aladdin (by an internal team at Sega) had a sword lol

[Anonymous No.7462186]

>>7461730
Aladdin having a sword makes the game feel more complete. Aladdin not having a sword feels like censorship.

[Anonymous No.7462190]

Muh Hasslehoff

[Anonymous No.7462210]

>>7462186
Aladdin doesn't use a sword though. He outwits and uses acrobatics, didn't you watch the cartoon?

[Anonymous No.7462220]

>>7462210
Well, he uses a sword in the manga, and he also commits several war crimes, including prisoner of war rape.

[Anonymous No.7462228]

>>7462210
No. But that doesn't mean Aladdin shouldn't have a sword in the video game, which is depicted on both covers of the video game.

[Anonymous No.7462251]

>>7462228
The only thing it means is that the cover artist fucked up, which hardly matters.
The SNES version is superior in every possible way.

[Anonymous No.7462309]

>>7462251
>The only thing it means is that the cover artist fucked up, which hardly matters.
>The SNES version is superior in every possible way.


I think Disney handles all of the promotional material, including the box art for all games based on their properties. the artists that did the Aladdin covers also did other video game box art for various other Disney licensed games as well. They worked with a few different artists on commission. Probably someone at Disney thought that the Capcom Aladdin game would have a sword too.

[Anonymous No.7462357]

There's also a minor Mandela effect that could have even affected Disney. Aladdin has so many action sequences that it's easy to just assume he uses a sword. I think what tricks people is that Abu pulls one on the guards in the opening chase and that gets warped in people's brains as Aladdin having one.

[Anonymous No.7462394]

>>7462251
I disagree because the Genesis version has the sword, plus Aladdin's sprites look better on the Genesis than it does on the SNES.

[Anonymous No.7462395]

>>7462357
It was just convenient simplification. Aladdin uses a sword in the final act of the movie, so Virgin picked up on that since it makes for a more straightforward core gameplay.

Both games have their strong points, but the SNES version makes for a better adaptation of the source materials in terms of gameplay at least. It would be THE best adaptation in general if it wasn't for Capcom's penchant for "original" filler content in all their Disney games. The pyramid level is totally out of place for example.

[Anonymous No.7462465]

>>7462395
>t would be THE best adaptation in general

As far as accuracy goes, the 8-Bit Sega version is the closest:

https://youtu.be/xH1gHd_Nniw?t=64

It was released on the GameGear and Sega Master System, and developed by a Japanese studio SIMS. Not sure if I would call it a better game.

[Anonymous No.7462517]

I replayed the Genesis version recently and the sword attack feels awful. People often cite the sword as the reason why the Genesis game is superior, but its implementation is really shitty. The level design in the SNES game is way better too, for some reason no western developers other than Rare could design a level that flows well even if their lives depended on it.
Also, I played both versions as a kid and the games were kind of jumbled together in my mind, I remember a lot of stuff from the Genesis version happening in the SNES one and vice versa. It is weird how memory works.

[Anonymous No.7462554]

>>7462517
>Attack with the sword
>The enemies you hit get damaged or killed
What were they THINKING

[Anonymous No.7462558]

>>7462554
He's not wrong though. It's a minor gripe but the hit detection is weird. You aren't really sure you're doing damage until the enemy dies.

[Anonymous No.7462581]

>>7462554
The attack animation is very unsatisfying because of how quick the slashing motion is, the hit detection feels kinda off in relation to the animation and most important, there is no feedback on hit. It fucks up all the basic things in video game animation.

[Anonymous No.7462647]

>>7462395
fucking kek

[Anonymous No.7462706]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwr-6dMfNzY

[Anonymous No.7462747]

> "...I think the Genesis version's better. The Genesis version had a sword, actually. I wanted to have a sword." - Shinji Mikami

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/02/shinji_mikami_prefers_the_sega_version_of_aladdin_even_though_he_worked_on_the_snes_game

[Anonymous No.7462816]

>>7462747
Typical japanese diplomatic fluff

[Anonymous No.7462936]

>>7462186
nah

[Anonymous No.7462942]

>>7462747
japs are notorious for their shit taste so that's irrelevant

[Anonymous No.7462950]

>>7462747
And Dave Perry admitted that he preferred the SNES Aladdin over his own work on Genesis. In the end, neither version is superior in the eyes of their own staff.

[Anonymous No.7462979]

>>7462936
He's right. Aladdin and Jasmine don't even kiss on the SNES version, whereas they do on the Mega Drive and Master System games.

Fuck Nintendy censorship.

[Anonymous No.7463061]

People often point out that the animation in the Genesis game is better, but I always found it to be kinda stiff. The attack animation is like three frames with just one being the actual attack, it has no knockback (neither you are knocked back by attacks), if you change directions after you begin an attack it is instantly cancelled instead of following your motion (and sometimes the attack sound still plays regardless), there is no actual death animation (transitioning to a black screen feels off to me), all the jump animations feel "under animated" there is like no inbetweens, if you run off a ledge the running animation keeps playing etc. The SNES game has simpler sprites, but every action feels more satisfying in it.

[Anonymous No.7463075]

>>7462517
>I replayed the Genesis version recently and the sword attack feels awful. People often cite the sword as the reason why the Genesis game is superior, but its implementation is really shitty. The level design in the SNES game is way better too, for some reason no western developers other than Rare could design a level that flows well even if their lives depended on it.
Also, I played both versions as a kid and the games were kind of jumbled together in my mind, I remember a lot of stuff from the Genesis version happening in the SNES one and vice versa. It is weird how memory works.

[Anonymous No.7463102]

>>7462465
man i love aladdin, this is so charming and well done.

[Anonymous No.7463382]

>>7462936
>being okay with censorship
You're an idiot.

[Anonymous No.7463449]

>>7461936
kek thank you for that laugh

[Anonymous No.7463534]

>>7461730
Nintendo ported sword version over to their game boy. Check mate Nintendrones.

[Anonymous No.7463778]

>>7461730
ABBAABBA

I still remember the cheat code to skip levels

[Anonymous No.7465961]

>>7463778
>Use the cheat mode to play any stage
>No matter which stage I pick, I go to the normal Stage 2 afterwards
WTF?

[Anonymous No.7466025]

>muh gore

[Anonymous No.7466053]

>>7462942
>japs are notorious for their shit taste so that's irrelevant

yeah. Though, in all fairness. He probably did want the game to have a sword.

[Anonymous No.7466195]

>>7462950
Like that matters. In the eyes of the public the Genesis version is most often considered superior.
>>7463061
This is the worst cope I've ever seen. The SNES version's animation is actually stiff and you're complaining about the version that had actual Disney animators working on it? Fix yourself.
You can prefer the feel of the SNES game but its animation quality is objectively inferior.

[Anonymous No.7466245]

>>7466195
I pointed out a bunch of fundamental flaws with the game's animation, like extremely basic shit NES developers got right from the get-go. It is not an opinion. Play both games and tell me which one feels like a stiff unpolished prototype.
The Genesis game feel like it was made by animators that did not give a shit they were animating for the video game medium.

[Anonymous No.7466271]

>>7462979
Neither do they kiss on the Sega Master System either.

Actually, the SNES version is slightly censored, for a very minor detail.

When Jaffar makes his third wish, he calls the genie "Slave!" in the Sega Master System version (as in the movie script), but in the SNES version of the cutscene which is otherwise lifted verbatim from the movie it's "Genie!" instead.

That sort of thing was included in NoA's censorship guidelines and happened indeed with cases like Illusion of Gaia. Disney was obviously fine with it for the Sega version, so it's on Nintendo.

I checked and it happens in the Japanese SFC version too (localized post-censorship?), so make of that what you will.

On the other hand, the Sega Master System had a cutscene edited out, where the genie tells the three rules of wishes (not wishing for murder, forcing someone to love you, no bringing someone back from the dead) but it might be because of all of the unique sprites. It's still accurate to the movie.

[Anonymous No.7466287]

>>7462747
I can see why both devs are wistful. All versions have wasted potential.

SNES version
>no sword
>massively inferior animation engine
>no prince ali segments or good cutscenes (like on SMS)
>no genie on packaging

Sega version
>tons of cut enemies and level segments
>including a third boss fight with Jaffar (genie form)
>third aghrabah level with prince ali sprites cut
>ended up like a barebones platformer (none of the adaptative level design that simplifies levels if you fail enough times)

Poor Master System version developers. No one asked them for their opinion.

[Anonymous No.7466346]

>>7466271
>Neither do they kiss on the Sega Master System either.
Actually play the game before you comment on it, wanker.

[Anonymous No.7466449]

>>7466245
You're conflating animation quality with game feel. Retarded.

[Anonymous No.7466459]

>>7466449
Read the book Game Feel and see what it talks about

[Anonymous No.7466462]

>>7466459
No.

[Anonymous No.7466468]

>muh slowdown

[Anonymous No.7466507]

>>7462465
>that 3d building effect
nice

[Anonymous No.7466514]

Yeah >muh official Disney artists and high influential platformer.

Keep seething, Crapcom.

[Anonymous No.7466939]

>>7463382
nah you are

[Anonymous No.7466946]

>>7466287
>no genie on packaging
Huh?

[Anonymous No.7467093]

>>7466939
False, social justice cuck.

[Anonymous No.7467115]

>>7462979
Too bad. It's still the better version

[Anonymous No.7467120]

>>7466946
>sword on box
>no sword in-game
Cool false advertising, Ninty.

[Anonymous No.7467121]

>>7467120
Not what I was talking about. Fuck off

[Anonymous No.7467141]

>>7466514
>high influential
lol no

[Anonymous No.7467145]

>>7463075

[Anonymous No.7467168]

>>7467145
Imagine drawing this

[Anonymous No.7467180]

>>7467168
really hits close to home huh?

[Anonymous No.7467203]

>>7467168
holy shit, you're fucking seething.

[Anonymous No.7467532]

>>7467203
Also coping obviously

[Anonymous No.7467592]

Sega Aladdin: big sprawling levels
SNES Aladdin: go right

[Anonymous No.7467604]

>>7467592
I really like the "nose to tail" style of level design, tangling the level path in every direction to make the most of the limited space

[Anonymous No.7467619]

>>7463778
>Not making it ABAB(Left=W)A
What a waste

[Anonymous No.7468005]

>>7467592
>>7467604
This shit is so cool. Did they do level design this way and then have programmers do the actual implementation, or did they already code level editors and auxiliary tools like that for designers to work with and test?

[Anonymous No.7468772]

>>7462210
I just watched it the other day and iirc apu has a sword for a second. I don't recall if alladin uses one at all in the movie.
I know he definitely doesn't after the first act.

[Anonymous No.7468909]

>>7468772
He never uses one until the final act, he uses it to fight Jaffar for a while

[Anonymous No.7468997]

>>7462210
>didn't you watch the cartoon?
Did you?

[Anonymous No.7469113]

>muh jafar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZvSXN-Pjdk

pic related

[Anonymous No.7469369]

>>7467141
>he doesn't think EWJ was influential

lol yes, dipshit.

[Anonymous No.7469379]

>>7461940
Genesis Aladdin sucked. The presentation was great but the actual platforming was crap and the combat was floaty as fuck. Let go of your nostalgia like I did and realize the SNES version is the superior game.

[Anonymous No.7469563]

>>7469369
>ewj
wrong thread, dumbass

[Anonymous No.7470438]

>>7467180
You like to imagine anon as a Japanese highschool girl like tomoko? Sounds pretty gay dude

[Anonymous No.7470570]

>>7467093
nah you are

[Anonymous No.7470619]

>>7470438
See>>7467203

[Anonymous No.7470839]

>>7467145
He was making fun of himself, retard.

[Anonymous No.7471861]

>>7470570
>n-n-no u
t. Loser

[Anonymous No.7471868]

>>7463075
>>7467145
>>7467168
>>7467180
>>7470438
>>7470570
>>7470619
>>7470839
>>7471861

[Anonymous No.7473643]

>>7471861
nah you are

[Anonymous No.7473645]

>>7470839
Dumbass