/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8465662]

Is the retro gaming “collector bubble” ever going to burst the way the Beanie Baby craze of 2000 did, or is this the new normal?

[Anonymous No.8465674]

No, because unlike beanie babies, vidya has actual inherent value.

[Anonymous No.8465680]

Possibly, but only in another decade or two when the people who grew up with those games become too old to give a fuck and destroy the demand.

[Anonymous No.8465689]

I'm sad my MMV's sticker is pealing up from the bottom.

[Anonymous No.8465709]

>>8465662
Hard to say, might see a dip in a year or two after COVID restrictions are (assumed) lifted, but until then, you should probably get a head start and start coomlecting Gen 7 and even some Wii U titles.

[Anonymous No.8465715]

>>8465709
I don’t want to coomlect, I just want to play retro games for cheap again…

[Anonymous No.8465724]

>>8465715
Best thing you can do now is just emulate or buy a flash cart, then. :/

[Anonymous No.8465731]

>>8465715
>coomlect
Fuck off with your *oomer shit already.

[Anonymous No.8465732]

>>8465680
This. You can tell that will happen by all the faggot zoomers on this board claiming software emulatiion is perfect. They don't care about CRT's or real hardware because they don't know any better. Once the Millenials and Gen X'ers who grew up with this shit get too old, demand will plummet.

[Anonymous No.8465739]

Stop being a pussy. Go ahead and buy the $200 game, beat it, and sell it for $220.

Oh you want to "own" it? Wll hold on to it then. You'll eventually need to get rid of it after a while, you can't take it to your grave, you might even get a family or have to move, sell it then for $400 because inflation will most likely be a bitch then.

Seethers will seethe, but at least you're playing games while they just piss their pants about prices on the internet.

[Anonymous No.8465745]

>>8465739
>you can't take it to your grave
Bullshit. Bury me with my games.

[Anonymous No.8465750]

It might fall a ways from its peak, but youll never see pre-2015 prices again in your lifetime

[Anonymous No.8465762]

You won't see 00s prices because the US dollar lost so fucking much of its value since then. Something like $50 from 2000 is $100 today. So even assuming retro collecting would stop being a thing, it would take several years for prices to simmer down, by which time even more inflation occurs and the game will still cost a fucking lot, just not in the relation to the price of a loaf of bread.

>>8465739
>Go ahead and buy the $200 game, beat it, and sell it for $220.
Then he'll be losing ~$40 or so due to paypal and ebay fees.

[Anonymous No.8465764]

>>8465709
Gen 7 coomlecting (the Xbox and ps3 stuff at least) I doubt will ever get that big

it’s kinda hard to imagine any Xbox 360 kids growing up and wanting to go back to gta5 on the 360, when they can just play it on their “xbox greatest of all time slim edition” especially when half of the games they want to replay are permanently gimped without updates that they can’t install without going through tracking down the files and nodding their console.

This is all under the assumption that working 360s are available enough for people to even bother, and not a huge pain in the ass to track down and preemptively repair and try to save it from its inevitable death.

Same applies to newer consoles but even harder
The 360 and ps3 at least have a few good exclusives stuck on them that people would remember and want to go back to. But most mainstream ps4/xbone games are on PC to begin with anyway

Wii stuff will probably go up in price, not as much because of how common it all is, and Wii U will either get stupid expensive, or stay cheap garbage no one wants forever.

[Anonymous No.8465792]

If/when there's a financial crash prices might go down 20/30% for a couple of months and then pick back up. Unlike Beanies people actually have nostalgia for these and want still want to play them, add on top of that the fact that modern gaming is fucking trash.

[Anonymous No.8465835]

>>8465764
>it’s kinda hard to imagine any Xbox 360 kids growing up and wanting to go back to gta5 on the 360, when they can just play it on their “xbox greatest of all time slim edition” especially when half of the games they want to replay are permanently gimped without updates that they can’t install without going through tracking down the files and nodding their console.
A lot of retro games that are well-loved now were obscure in their time, and a lot of the games no one cares about now are the ones people actually played and got systems for back then. There were far more people playing NFL Gameday on PS1 than Tomba 2, Jumping Flash, or The Misadventures of Tron Bonne.
Xbox 360 has a giant catalog of exclusives and odd indie titles, so the same thing will probably happen to it. The system went through a number of generations itself. It's probably more difficult than not to find a working 360 that still has the blades dashboard (let alone the dash that works with the King Kong exploit) unless you want to take a chance at resurrecting a dozen RRoD year one 360s.

There was a point in time where original Xbox Debug Kits could be had for under $100 and no one wanted to go near LEs like the Hulk and Mountain Dew so they were $30.

[Anonymous No.8465842]

>>8465674
It has no more inherent value than a stuffed toy
>>8465662
It will be manipulated and scammed to a point where it implodes.

[Anonymous No.8465917]

>>8465764
I'm going all in with 360 regardless. I may not have a cool retro collection but I will have a shelf for my favorite system. Some games are already going up. PS3 is even higher.

[Anonymous No.8465957]

>>8465842
>It has no more inherent value than a stuffed toy
Video games have an actual use, toys do not

[Anonymous No.8465965]

>>8465764
>it’s kinda hard to imagine any Xbox 360 kids growing up and wanting to go back to gta5 on the 360

The best selling game of all time is a bad example, because we're already seeing that happen with tons of games

[Anonymous No.8465968]

>>8465957
They are both toys, and toys are for playing with. simple as.

[Anonymous No.8465972]

>>8465968
Video games are not toys.

[Anonymous No.8465979]

>>8465762
Considerably less. I only had to pay $50 in fees when I sold a $500 pokemon card thing

[Anonymous No.8465981]

>>8465979
Including shipping insurance? As someone who's gotten some "free" things off ebay in the past, I wouldn't sell such a big ticket thing without it

[Anonymous No.8465982]

>>8465972
They software toys; entertainment that you, and I cannot stress this enough, play.

[Anonymous No.8465983]

/vr/ has been insisting that the bubble will burst any day now, since the week /vr/ was made.

[Anonymous No.8465990]

>>8465982
Let me be clear, ESLbro: when I put a DVD in the "player" and press the "play" button, it is not a toy, even though you "play" it.

[Anonymous No.8465992]

>>8465965
I may not have any "I bought Chrono Trigger for a buck" but I have this.

[Anonymous No.8465993]

>>8465835
>>8465965

I agree that there will be those odd games here and there that get expensive due to low print runs etc, that get popular later on in life.

What I don’t think is going to happen is that we’ll see that mainstream stuff pick up in value as we’ve watched happen for other consoles in the past few years.

I guess I mean the games that deserve to stay bargain bin commons will probably always be that. No $100 Pokémon type things where the supply/demand is second to scalping and speculative markets.

[Anonymous No.8465994]

>>8465981
Ebay always provides tracking, no real need for insurance, just don't live in a hell hole with shit USPS service.

>>8465762
>Then he'll be losing ~$40 or so due to paypal and ebay fees.
Even if you did lose this much, by the time you end up selling you should have been able to put at least $40 from your paycheck in savings to break even, assuming you put a fraction of your income into savings.

[Anonymous No.8465996]

>>8465992
Nice, that's an awesome game too. One of the best FPS ever made

[Anonymous No.8466001]

>>8465990
DVDs are not games. the DVD *player* *plays* movies. the game console or computer does not play games. *you* play the games.

[Anonymous No.8466002]

>>8465994
Tracking doesn't mean shit when I tell ebay the box showed up ripped open. Don't ask me how I know this, but they always side with the buyers, even if you claim you bought a macbook and got shipped a box of rocks

[Anonymous No.8466003]

>>8465990
Not even remotely the same and it was an editing error. Games are toys, they are sold in toy stores, you play with them. You can tell yourself whatever you want, but really you shouldn't care what people think about you, anon. This could be us.

[Anonymous No.8466008]

>>8466003
grow up

[Anonymous No.8466010]

>>8466002
eBay literally never sides with buyers, you're crazy. I won't sell anything on eBay because it's such a gamble as a seller.

[Anonymous No.8466015]

>>8466008
My point exactly. I hope you find some clarity. We're rooting for you.

[Anonymous No.8466020]

>>8466001
>the game console or computer does not play games.
It plays the software analogous to a DVD player playing the movie. Your inputs just happen to also be part of the software.

[Anonymous No.8466024]

>>8466010
if that was true, their business would've failed a long time ago

[Anonymous No.8466026]

>>8465992
Based game, something SOVLful about the PC version, though.

[Anonymous No.8466028]

>>8466002
I'm no big time seller but I made $1,000 off ebay last year, never had any problems. Stop being so cynical.

[Anonymous No.8466039]

>>8466028
So you only had about 10 sales then? It's only a matter of time before someone targets you once you start actually using the site. It's hilariously easy to find sellers with low feedback getting in over their heads listing big ticket items. Trading cards and vidya especially, since they're small and can very easily go "missing".

[Anonymous No.8466057]

>>8466024
It stays open because eBay is synonymous with online sales. For every person who realizes how easy it is to scam sellers, there are a hundred who just want to buy shit off eBay. So the sellers who get fucked are just a drop in the bucket for eBay's bottom line.

[Anonymous No.8466059]

>>8466039
not that anon but how often does that really happen? I've sold stuff on and off for about 10 years on eBay and only ever had issues with sellers who misleadingly describe their items, not buyers. Isn't this what insurance is for anyways? It's pretty cheap up to a couple hundred dollars.

[Anonymous No.8466069]

>>8465993
The mainstream games tend to pick up in value eventually. Even bargain bin games for one system can appreciate if they stay worthless long enough that they get trashed into obscurity. That's starting to happen with pre-NES stuff like Coleco, where advanced age is starting to come into play.

[Anonymous No.8466184]

>>8465674
>No, because unlike beanie babies, vidya has actual inherent value.
No, the ROM has. The plastic and the console are worthless and this is a form of idiot tax with incredibly depressing overtones. If you actually cared about the games you'd just download the ROM and play them on emulators.

[Anonymous No.8466185]

>>8465662
Retro vidya will be like classic cars or laserdiscs. I think value will peak and drop slightly before reaching a plateau.
Coomllecting as anything other than an investment is peak fat retard.

[Anonymous No.8466186]

>>8466184
If you actually cared about games you'd know of the inherent flaws in emulation.

Emulators are ghetto as fuck, for ghetto fucks.

[Anonymous No.8466195]

>>8466184
>If you actually cared about the games you'd just download the ROM and play them on emulators.
Faggot

[Anonymous No.8466201]

>>8466028
Better get ready to fill out those irs forms amerigolem slave bwahaha

[Anonymous No.8466267]

>>8465662
>bubble
This isn't a bubble. The collective blip near xmas of increased pricing is. But the new higher price range that goes up yearly will never go away. Anyone that thinks so is delusional like a fucking toddler brained Q-republican.

Just like the housing market won't go down nearly as much as people think. In many areas it is just leveling off with pay rates and general annual % increase that have happened for decades. A price increase that is more than your particular people want to pay you.

[Anonymous No.8466293]

>>8465732
>know any better
They know more than you. Pathetic to let a faggot zoomer outdo your retarded boomer ass.

Once those people are old enough these items will be useless, more so than most consoles and CRTs already are.

Just remember, sweaty. If you had a controller plugged into an FPGS, emulator, or real hardware, etc. and didn't know it was any of the three you would never notice the difference. Cope and deal with it. CRTs last bastion is no blur.... which it has nearly lost to miniled-qled/oled.

Now reply TL,DR in anger.

[Anonymous No.8466330]

>>8466186
>>8466195
Like I said, collecting this is just a meaningless vanity project for people who are either profoundly stupid or have too much money. In both cases it just shows that a fool and his money are quickly parted. Flaws in emulation? Really? A pixel here or there is meaningless to the experience of the game. Especially when considered that when we played these as kids most of us had shitty TV's and other such factors. In other words, the "perfect" experience of playing games today is with mild scuff - on emulators, not on extremely overpriced and meticulously acquired rare CRT TV's with this or that resolution or refresh rate or whatever the fuck.

This isn't just a bubble, it's downright fraud. And if you think any sort of prestige is associated with collecting worthless plastic for thousands of dollars you are wrong. I don't look at you with envy or see you as some kind of example. I see you as a kind of clown and I am laughing at you. I don't want to be you, and if I suddenly by some stroke of fate I got some sort of perfect collection in mint condition I'd immediately sell it to chumps like you. Because having this is physical form is meaningless, and you'll all realize this way too late for it to matter. Your inevitable fate down the line is to feature in shitty nuYoutube or other such streaming site where some future kid will make a vid about tulip manias, beanie babies and retro gaming collections.

I just hope to be there to see it and laugh along with the kids. Enjoy your "collection" you schumcks. Sink more cash into it. MORE! The more you spend the funnier you become. Oh, and don't forget to take heckin cool photos to post on twitter or reddit so that future kid has more material to work with.

[Anonymous No.8466334]

>>8465680
Similarly retro Star Wars original figures and everything Andy Warhol ever made.

[Anonymous No.8466343]

Also when original consoles start to need new components soldered in (because electricals do decompose) it should lower the prices.

[Anonymous No.8466360]

Not before society collapses. Everyone's trying to find a side hustle to make money instead of actually working, there's always gonna be some dip shits ruining things for everyone by trying to turn a profit.

[Anonymous No.8466380]

>>8466343
No it shouldn't. Any system that's been refurbished is automatically more expensive since the seller is tacking on labor costs. In a future where almost all consoles are broken, the working ones will be more valuable and the penny ones would only be bought by refurbishers

[Anonymous No.8466409]

>>8466380
Yes it will. I bet you. See other vintage electronic markets that passed their sell by date era.

[Anonymous No.8466416]

>>8466409
I do that constantly. Refurbished audio tech is always more expensive, as are TVs and VCRs and Laserdiscs and compurers. What counterexamples do you have?

[Anonymous No.8466417]

They become too unreliable and no one can be bothered anymore.

"But surely in working condition it's worth many thousands of credit?"

It isn't. It's unreliable, potentially unsafe, no one knows what to do with it anymore, it's an eccentric market that is shrinking.

Soz.

[Anonymous No.8466447]

>>8466416
Then that warehouse of abandoned televisions that were supposed to have been ethically recycled is worth many millions of Euro? Quick! There is not a moment to lose, nor breath a word oft as instead the buffoons think it a huge environmental liability!

[Anonymous No.8466451]

>>8466447
We're talking about devices that have been worked on by the seller and have a labor cost attached to them, keep up. Any instance of old tech that's falling apart, refurbished will cost more than the broken or untested.

[Anonymous No.8466453]

>>8466451
I died. Sorry.

[Anonymous No.8466464]

>>8466184
>If you actually cared about the games you'd just download the ROM and play them on emulators
decent bait, you got replies

[Anonymous No.8466471]

>>8465662
>collecting game boy carts
>shiggydiggy

[Anonymous No.8466485]

>>8466184
I download ROMs and play them on FPGAs. Hardware with a renewed lifespan.

[Anonymous No.8466534]

>>8466330
damn that's a lot of text for some emulator cope

[Anonymous No.8466539]

>>8466069
Well, yeah give enough time and eventually everything will become uncommon. But honestly if you’re only looking into colecovision collecting now? Buddy you had nearly 50 years I’m sorry.

Even then- for the same thing to happen to something like a Mario game- where it gets to the point where there are legitimately few copies on the market. Where it could be considered actually rare. Is gonna take a lot longer than even the most popular colecovision games (the best selling game for the platform is undoubtedly donkey Kong- being a pack in. Being generous you could maybe say there’s 1.5 million of those things out there. And if it takes 50+ years for them to dwindle out of the common market then a game like super Mario bros that’s sold 40 odd million of the things…


The silicon itself in the cartridges will outlive every person in this thread- and for games with those sales numbers, it kinda seems to me like there will be plenty of them around for as long as I or you may live to give a shit

[Anonymous No.8466647]

>>8466293
Why would I seethe when you just repeated exactly what I said? lmao retard.

[Anonymous No.8466758]

>spent my teenage years in the early to mid 00s buying up friends old games
>NES/SNES/Genesis/whatever else
>boxes of a console plus 20 games for like 40-60 bucks
>friends are willing to sell an old system and their entire library for the price of a single new GameCube/PS2/Xbox release
>pretty much the only new games I'm playing at this time are on GBA
>I end up getting a ton of games that I wanna play since I had no interest in new stuff and just wanted more 2D games
>held onto everything including my own childhood games
Feels pretty good right about now.

[Anonymous No.8466787]

>>8465972
???
What are you saying??
Video games aren't toys? What?
What is that supposed to mean, you play with them. They're toys.
You man children are so insecure.

[Anonymous No.8466862]

>>8466330
>rare CRT TV
>>8466417

[Anonymous No.8466872]

It's been like 15 years already.... let it go.
If you didn't keep your childhood collection (if you were even alive back in the 80s and 90s) then just contempt yourself with emus, or just make a lot of money and pay the ridiculous prices.

[Anonymous No.8466886]

>>8466862
I lold

[Anonymous No.8469202]

>>8466186
>you'd know of the inherent flaws in emulation
I doubt you do. Your mind is clouded by idealistic abstractions. Go outside and take a breather lest you post more nonsense on the internet.

[Anonymous No.8469208]

>>8465680
Once their generation is starting to go off to college/weddings/retirement you’ll see a mass exodus from these items. Not to mention when bitrot becomes more prevalent.

Most of what will be collectible will be the sealed ones, like in sporting cards.

[Anonymous No.8469214]

>>8465965
Part of your pictured example is because it was just made backwards compatible. Xbox games are a special case.

[Anonymous No.8469243]

>>8465674
Fuck you you fucking no beanie baby having dumb fuck

[Anonymous No.8469385]

Just found my stash of old games and a working snes, thinking of selling them BUT im in Yurop... Hows the market over here with pal games and which sites do you go to for price gauging and selling? Is it all just ebay?

[Anonymous No.8469389]

>>8469385
You'll make the most cash selling to retard americans

[Anonymous No.8469395]

>>8466539
I see it playing out along these lines
>the audience for old games and collecting continues to grow, everything increases in value to higher and higher levels of absurdity
>the pre-2000 stuff will become so expensive that collecting turns into a youth-repelling boomer hobby like muscle cars did, with graying manchildren dropping $700k on a boxed copy of Mega Man 4
>old people with retro game shrines become the new boomer with an 8 track collection
>next generation rolls their eyes at the /vr/ we know and love as millennials and gen x get old and continue never shutting up about the good old days
>core audience ages past the point of being interested
>kids or nephews of some sort have to figure out what to do with grandpa's high-maintenance game shrine
>some continue their parents or grandparents collection but mostly everyone else only keeps a small few things and sells or parts out the rest
>bubble pops as demand for the genereous supply drops
>/vr/ becomes like the old Hess truck lots that pop up at auctions and end up in bargain bin boxes at antique stores
It still ends with games being trashed into obscurity and becoming valuable but on a much longer window of time

[Anonymous No.8470001]

>>8466471
Game Boy has tons of quality stuff for cheap, and it's totally region free. Collecting GB stuff is great fun.

[Anonymous No.8470012]

>>8465662
You faggots have been asking this since 2013 so the hell do you think?

[Anonymous No.8470369]

>>8465680
This. Keep in mind that NES/SNES prices peaked around ~2016 and then started going down. This trend only went back upwards due to corona meme lockdowns. Just look at how the new hotness is N64 and dreamcast and gamecube and GBA stuff.

That said I don't think prices will ever dump back down to where they used to be pre-2010. And the legitimately RARE stuff will still remain expensive. I expect common games to go down to a reasonable middle ground but stuff like Panzer Dragoon Saga will stay extremely high

[Anonymous No.8470446]

>saw this coming and started going hard on CIB DS games back around 2015
paying off so far

[Anonymous No.8470447]

>saw this coming and started going hard on CIB DS games back around 2015
paying off so far

[Anonymous No.8470453]

>>8470447
>was thinking giana sisters when i saw this pic as i picked up a copy pretty late this year
>and sure enough there it is
honestly kino little comfy platformer, im glad i kept my DS pokemons from my childhood. fucking nintendo autists driving up the price of literally everything with that company logo on it.

[Anonymous No.8470464]

>>8470369
Yeah the NES mania of the early mid 2010s feels over

[Anonymous No.8470465]

>>8470447
it's not surprising but it's crazy how all Nintendo shit really skyrocketed overnight. I remember trading/selling all of my DS games once I got a flashcart in 2009, I genuinely would not have believed Pokemon games would go for 2x MSRP 10 years later.

[Anonymous No.8470502]

>>8470453
Yeah I've kept pretty much everything over the years, which I'm finding is more and more uncommon. Giana Sisters is one I grabbed when it was on deep discount from NewEgg of all fucking places, cost me something like 13 bucks new.

>>8470465
I've focused solely on buying games I want to play, which is why I don't have a ton of the mondo expensive turn-based RPGs or Pokemon or any of that. Looking back if I just wanted to make money it would have been smart to go for those but I was more interested in getting the games I wanted to play before they got hidden gem status and got expensive down the line. In no timeline would I ever have expected Pokemon games to go bonkers tho, we're living in bizarro universe

[Anonymous No.8470503]

>>8466186
>inherent flaws of emulation
that nobody will notice other than massive turboautists

[Anonymous No.8470513]

>>8470502
>newegg
>13 bucks new
i feel truly cucked, what a find

[Anonymous No.8470623]

>>8470513
that wasn't even the best of those deals when it came to DS, I got that Little Red Riding Hood's Zombie BBQ for 15 bucks and Commando Steel Disaster for 20, both at Gamestop a few months after they came out and were being marked down/clearance'd out

[Anonymous No.8470713]

>>8470464
Exactly. I remember specifically avoiding anything NES/SNES because people were going apeshit over them and prices were way too high. I ended up picking up some of that stuff later on around ~2019 instead after fervor had died down. For example at the peak I think Contra was going for like ~50 bucks, then it went down to 15 and that's when I bought it. Then it went back up recently due to lockdown shit.

Theoretically if lockdown society ever returns to normal (it won't, but let's just say it does) I'd fully expect all the older stuff to go back down to pre-2020 prices and possibly slump off even after that. But stuff like dreamcast/gamecube IMO will continue to keep rising overall, sadly, because the timing simply lines up right for the people who grew up with those consoles reaching adulthood and having disposable income to waste on trinkets.

[Anonymous No.8470725]

>>8470713
Anything nintendo will never lower again, that's just the nature of the beast when it comes to nintentoddlers. I have 3 snes games total because it took too long to find good copies at prices that werent outrageous, where genesis even i collected every sonic game released no problem at solid prices, bundles even.
dreamcast i've had far less issues collecting than gamecube, gamecube is always skyrocketing. Even kirby air ride im seeing go for over $100 now where my most expensive dreamcast games were bundles.

[Anonymous No.8470738]

>>8470465
The handheld stuff is especially surprising. While flashcarts are nice to have for home consoles, they're WAY more convenient for handhelds because fuck having to carry around a sack of games with you. Having a shelf of games isn't an inconvenience for a home console since you're not moving around with them anyway. Even with the DS games I own from back in the day, I basically never actually play any of them since it's better to just have a flashcart and never have to worry about carrying around or swapping stuff.

IDK, I just don't get why people are going apeshit over stuff like GBA. Having a bunch of individual game carts for a handheld is inconvenient for the reasons just stated. And even from a coomlector standpoint, GBA games are these tiny little chips you can't even properly stack or display on a shelf. They're really just an inconvenience in every way.

[Anonymous No.8470754]

>>8470725
yeah, the nintendo tax is real. I only have a handful of SNES games, and all of them are japanese imports because SFC stuff was way cheaper, including the console itself. I grew up with the genesis, but I ended up collecting a fair number of games on the system during the early 2010s mainly because the games were so much cheaper than equivalent stuff on nintendo platforms. The gamecube is especially egregious. While prices on that are insane now, even during the early/mid 2010s prices were still way higher than xbox/ps2 stuff. Even for multiplat games. It's like GC didn't experience the usual "dip" that most consoles have for a generation after discontinuation. They just remained perpetually high.

I'm just glad I never sold anything at all, and for gamecube I bought many games for dirt cheap during the tail end of that generation and the early days of 7th gen when places were liquidating stock for cheap.

[Anonymous No.8471092]

>>8465662
It is going down a bit especially now that Wata got btfo and never really responded. There are gonna be some games that stay expensive but not loose carts and shit.

Always haggle and never be afraid to walk away from a shit deal. You will find this stuff again, it's not a big deal.

[Anonymous No.8471151]

>>8466862
When I was in highschool I sold my crt to my friend for $10 =(

[Anonymous No.8471232]

>>8465662
no its called runaway inflation
better hoard what you can before the weimar collapse

[Anonymous No.8471237]

>>8466003
>This could be us.
HOLY FUCK WHAT A FAGGOT!!!!!

[Anonymous No.8471316]

>>8466003
>this could be us

[Anonymous No.8471347]

>>8465835
wiiu is going to be a massive sleeper hit in collecting especially the hardware. Low print runs of everything, nintendo tax, "lol weird Nintendo" hardware, games with exclusive content (mass effect, splinter cell, botw) that use the dual screen experience.

Xbox 360 and ps3 will be huge for different reasons. Last consoles before "always connected". ps3 is easy to mod so you'll see lots of people going back and exploring the library. Accessibility to new retro gamers that haven't yet came of age with simple hdmi hookup, wireless controllers, and the ability to copy discs to harddrives means plenty of good condition discs and lasers.

[Anonymous No.8471369]

>>8470738
you're thinking about it backwards. If you go down the slippery slope of coomlecting, space does become and issue. you can pack 50 gameboy games in a shoebox and move it between your overpriced rental. Home ownership for under 40s are really low. That's why there's so much crt, arcade, and vintage computer cope on /vr/. Shit takes up space and many do not have it.

[Anonymous No.8471638]

>>8469214
So? New attention on an old game caused the price to jump, there's nothing special about that

[Anonymous No.8472021]

>>8471369
Yeah, I ran into this myself years ago and had to sell off most of my collection due to lack of space and needing cash. Shit sucks and I'm sure stories like that are why we have the current bubble of people paying out the ass to rebuild collections. Personally I only buy stuff if it's decently below average eBay prices which certainly limits the speed of your collecting.
At least hardware and flash carts/ODEs are affordable, there's no need to buy physical these days.

[Anonymous No.8472850]

>>8466184
Faggot

[Anonymous No.8473363]

>>8471347
>wiiu is going to be a massive sleeper hit in collecting especially the hardware
Agreed. Wii U is a complex system and basically lived in obscurity. There aren't many of them around. Same for launch and LE PS3s.
PSP and Vita are also strong contenders for attaining Saturn-tier prices. In PSP's case, it would be rather costly to make UMD repros and anyone who will emulate will just emulate. Physical copies of games with UMDs in good shape have already appreciated quite a lot. $10 a few years ago, $200 now.
Vita is like the Wii U/Saturn of handhelds and the American market is ironically the rarest. It sold twice as much in both Europe and Japan.

[Anonymous No.8473437]

>>8471347
>massive sleeper hit
I doubt it. I think Wii u sits in a weird middle ground of niche, where it is not popular enough (e.g. NES, SNES) and not obscure enough (e.g. Neo geo) to be heavily sought after.

[Anonymous No.8473467]

>>8465731
I'm gunna cooOOOoooOOOM

[Anonymous No.8473472]

>>8465662
Well the kikes behind it were also behind the comic book bubble/crash of the early 90s and the coin collecting craze of the 80s. Those ended so this will probably do likewise. The real point here is that kikes should be obliterated.

[Anonymous No.8473476]

>>8465662
wtf is this shit
do physicalcucks really

[Anonymous No.8473827]

>>8465917
I'm also going all in on 360 and Xbox in general since that's always been my preference. I've noticed certain exclusives are getting pricy. Spikeout: Battlestreet is starting to become one of the more expensive games in my collection which I didn't expect at all.

[Anonymous No.8473853]

>>8465662
I don't think it'll ever go back to pre-bubble levels, the only way to fight this inflation is to supply more but all these games are no longer being made.

[Anonymous No.8473862]

>>8473853
Yes but emulating, flash carts and ODEs exist
Only paypigs are buying physical games.

[Anonymous No.8473873]

>>8473467
>muh politics
Your vote doesn't matter.
You won't ever make a difference.
The world is ran by a global elite but not that global elite.
Get the fuck over yourself and have fun with life.

[Anonymous No.8473890]

Games will only get scarcer over time, so no it will never go back to buying Gamecube games out of the gamestop bargin bin for $10 again. But is it still affordable? Mostly. People who think theyre entitled to 30 year old games for chump change these days are retarded though. People who think paying $50 for an old game have very little clue on how bad it can get for a collectibles market.

Really rare shit however, now that will only continue to climb to the heavens and never return, at least in this collectibles economy. Im pretty sure Panzer Dragoon and Earthbound and w/e will all bitrot before their prices ever crash to sensible levels.

[Anonymous No.8473956]

>>8473853
It’ll drop again if demand ever drops. These prices aren’t just because supply is too low, it’s because paypigs are throwing demand to unrealistic and unsustainable levels.

[Anonymous No.8473968]

>>8473956
the supply will shrink before demand ever does, every day more and more of these games in the wild will get trashed or broken and the few that arent get scalped up instantly by hoarders.

only solution is if the economy improves to the point where people doing these meme side hustles to exploit cash from hobbists give up and move on.

[Anonymous No.8473975]

>>8465680
You're wrong because unlike pong and pac man, games released after 1995 are actually still decent for a modern audience. Things only become worthless when their generation die off if the item itself was always worthless bullshit, like pogs or gollywogs.

[Anonymous No.8473983]

>>8473968
>people doing these meme side hustles to exploit cash from hobbyists give up and move on
these types of people have singlehandedly ruined so many hobbies that used to be affordable for anyone to get into. The worst part is the absolute disregard for condition/functionality when dealing with anything tech adjacent, I also play music and seeing people list broken amps for $1k because they found an eBay listing that high is a tragedy.

[Anonymous No.8473986]

>>8473975
I really don't want to think about how long games like Pokemon Platinum and HGSS will stay in the $200+ range

[Anonymous No.8473996]

>>8471347
Less convinced about PS3 and 360. The majority of notable titles have been ported to everything now, even Switch ports are better than their 7th gen versions. Backwards compatibility is solid for 360 games with most noteworthy titles being available digitally. Sure there's niche titles but that's why we have emulation and someday even potato PCs/mobile will be able to emulate 360/PS3, it's already preferable to real hardware if you have a powerful enough machine.

[Anonymous No.8474007]

>>8473996
theres also the fact that a lot of the content from patches, DLC, and other online connectivity is completely lost with these newer games over time. Once the support cuts off theres a lot of shit you lose out on that isnt easily available. Theres no worry about missing content when you're buying retro games.

[Anonymous No.8474018]

>>8474007
Patches, DLC and even online DRM apply to a decent amount of late 7th gen games I agree with the appeal of everything working out of the box but there's no reason to collect original hardware/physical copies of 360/PS3 games when I get a superior experience for free on PC or a couple bucks on a modern Xbox.
It's not like 6th gen and before where original hardware + a CRT is an entirely different experience from most emulation setups. I don't think 7th gen games will ever get that pricey outside of low print titles that were already expensive.

[Anonymous No.8474020]

>>8473996
I hear people make these arguments but I don't think they hold much water. Yes, from a purely rational standpoint there are superior ways to play these games. But collecting isn't about rationality. The same argent applies to basically everything that can be played on an emulator. Arguably the best way to play ps1/n64 games is on emulators where you can use higher resolutions and good stable framerates and no Z-fighting. Same with 8/16-bit games and avoiding sprite flicker and slowdown issues. Same with stuff like gamecube games where Dolphin runs great and you can render in HD, or play the entire library on a Wii with softmods and a hard drive for free.

Point is I don't think that more convenient methods to play games drives down the value of the originals, at least not significantly. If that were the case, Wii VC would've lowered the perceived value of old nintendo games, when in actual fact it was a key factor in causing people to rediscover old platforms and buy the original copies of stuff

[Anonymous No.8474023]

>>8474018
People said the same thing about ps1 and ps2 stuff never going up. Eventually everything does.

[Anonymous No.8474039]

>>8474020
>Arguably the best way to play ps1/n64 games is on emulators where you can use higher resolutions and good stable framerates and no Z-fighting. Same with 8/16-bit games and avoiding sprite flicker and slowdown issues. Same with stuff like gamecube games where Dolphin runs great and you can render in HD, or play the entire library on a Wii with softmods and a hard drive for free.
Yes but Nintendo isn't great at offering ways of playing games from those gens on modern hardware, especially Gamecube. I think that's what's driving the value, most Wii games are ludicrously cheap in comparison and they have more ports on Switch.
>If that were the case, Wii VC would've lowered the perceived value of old nintendo games
except that it was actually a worse offering, overpriced and Nintendo was stingy at the time with dropping titles that people wanted. A good amount of PS3 and 360 games are available on most or all modern platforms at okay-ish prices.
>>8474023
These are also inaccessible for the most part, I think that's a huge factor in determining the prices that people will pay for original copies.

[Anonymous No.8474048]

>>8474039
How are they inaccessible?

[Anonymous No.8474052]

>>8473873
local politics matter more than anything you retarded faggot, not everything is a presidential election

the absolute state of neets

[Anonymous No.8474056]

>>8474048
inaccessible outside of having the original consoles. Sony hasn't offered PS1 backwards compatibility since the PS3 and only a handful of PS2 stuff was available on PS4.
Every time Nintendo re releases things they fuck it up which then drives more value for the original releases.
This isn't the case with 7th gen games which are still being ported and re released nearly too often.

[Anonymous No.8474059]

>>8466201
Yeah if you receive at least 500 regardless of if you even made profi they're sending it to the IRS now.

[Anonymous No.8474063]

>>8474056
You can download them in a few minutes/seconds and play them on a emulator on anything from a computer to a phone to a ps3 to a toaster oven

[Anonymous No.8474067]

>>8466330
You can tell it's just a bunch of niggers flipping on the side after they quit their job. Games absolutely no one wants has doubled

[Anonymous No.8474074]

>>8474052
Wrong on all accounts and your insults are not welcome here.
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.8474078]

>>8473975
Anyone with common sense will just get a flashcart.

[Anonymous No.8474081]

>>8474078
That's illegal

[Anonymous No.8474082]

>>8474081
So is speeding. Literally nobody gives a shit

[Anonymous No.8474113]

>>8474018
Yeah theres always a new updated version of recent games coming out so individual copies dont hold much value as they used to. Theres a special quality to games from the before times that modern games lack. When you buy Super Mario youre always getting the authentic Super Mario experience and theres no other special bells and whistles you need to worry about. It's like buying a 1970 mustang and you dont have to worry about the car screaming at you to put your seatbelt on or hook up to siri.

[Anonymous No.8474115]

>>8465731
Something only a soi would say.

[Anonymous No.8475253]

>>8465662
>is this the new normal?
This is the new trough on your chart. As the economy starts to recover people will have even more money. They also won't be held back from buying unnecessary items because of uncertainty. You ain't seen nothing yet.

[Anonymous No.8475301]

>>8475253
Nah, the lockdowns led to price surges for old games because millennials were forced to sit around at home and ended up buying old games to pass the time.
That said the virus hoax is never actually going to end. You vill own nothing and you vill be happy

[Anonymous No.8475329]

>>8466758
Based. This is exactly how it will go

[Anonymous No.8475334]

^ wrong fucking post im retarded

>>8469395
This guy is based and knows his shit.

[Anonymous No.8475437]

>>8469395
Based. This is exactly how it will go

[Anonymous No.8475478]

>>8473975
>games released after 1995 are actually still decent for a modern audience
This is laughable, for every Mario 64 there's ten Bubsy 3D tier games that are janky garbage. You only think games. Also speak for yourself, NES was my first console but in my 20s I got way into stuff like Atari 2600 and Intellivision and early 80s micros despite having no nostalgia for them. Growing up with the games is not necessary to enjoy them.

[Anonymous No.8475480]

>>8473975 #
>games released after 1995 are actually still decent for a modern audience
This is laughable, for every Mario 64 there's ten Bubsy 3D tier games that are janky garbage. Also speak for yourself, NES was my first console but in my 20s I got way into stuff like Atari 2600 and Intellivision and early 80s micros despite having no nostalgia for them. Growing up with the games is not necessary to enjoy them.

[Anonymous No.8475619]

>>8465992
Back in the day I saw zelda majora's mask for $20 but I decided to get xtreme g3 on ps2 instead because I wanted new graphix.

>>8466184
I think benie babies lost value because you can just get any stuffed animal and its the same. New video games will never be the same as old unless you repros.

>>8466185
Its a massive anomaly that old stuff gets valuable. Its only pretty recently that stuff like old cars and video games have got expensive. For many decades even pretty collectible cars were far cheaper than what a new car would cost. Old anything just wasn't that valuable. I had never heard of my boomer relatives or anyone older that I knew who collected anything from their youth.

>>8466185
Classic cars used to be owned by enthusiasts who would never expect to make a profit but they kept them because they wanted to preserve history. A classic car used to be considered pretty valuable if it was worth a quarter the cost of a new car. I had some old car mags so I see what it was like.

>>8466539
I brought a heap of boxed intellivision games for under $10 a game. Why bother with a flash carts when they are that cheap.

>>8465662
Hard to say, the vast majority of old games are much cheaper than their new price. Are people really going to seek out ps2 in 20 years. The big stuff will probably be valuable such as mario sunshine but I don't think anyone will care for killzone etc. Sonic games on wii actually are increasing slightly, I think they will go up.
I don't think it will be like benie babbies in that a seller at a market has a pile for $1 and no one cares.
I think people will play a game on an emulator and then want's the real thing.

[Anonymous No.8475758]

>>8475619
I think a lot of this is symptomatic if deeper issues with the modern economy. Pretty much any boomer could walk out of highschool and get a decent job that was good enough to raise a family and buy a house with. But in the modern day everyone is priced out of everything and the requirements for anything more than a McJob have become utterly insane. So you see more and more people turning to weird gig-shit to scrape a living. So all these hobbyist niches all got completely hollowed out. Whether it was classic cars or old video games or whatever else, it was mainly hobbyists selling to each other, or buying from people who had old stuff lying around that was unwanted and sold for cheap. But now it's mainly scalpers scalping other scalpers and it's the hobbyists that get priced out of it all. Literally everything has been corrupted and turned into a speculative market

[Anonymous No.8475761]

Are there any consoles that are actually affordable to collect for?

[Anonymous No.8475802]

>>8475761
master system and atari lynx are pretty cheap

[Anonymous No.8475916]

>>8475761
You have to go for the thing that nobody cares for if you want cheap. That means either very new (360, xbone, ps4) or it means very old (atari). If you want deals like back in the good old days getting boxes of old games for a few bucks, you need to look at yard sales and shit like that and hope you find a mom selling off her son's last-gen games or something

[Anonymous No.8475918]

>>8465662
>Is the retro gaming “collector bubble” ever going to burst
Doubt it, it's the funniest bubble though. Things like old comic books are expensive due to how scarce the remaining supply is, however most vidya games are expensive because boomers bought up the supply to display/put away in storage and there is no real shortage of supply just a shortage of willingness to sell.

Ether way the digital age has made the problem irrelevant for people that want to actually play the games. Just embrace it or pay some boomer an obscene amount for rotting plastic the choice is yours.

[Anonymous No.8475941]

>>8475758
I think you’re exactly right. The “side hustle” culture in America is really ruining things. Everyone looks for anything to make a few extra bucks on, and then mills it for all they can. It’s a sign of just how much the economy is straining on the verge of collapse.

[Anonymous No.8475943]

>>8475941
Yeah because the same games in Japanese are always under half the price of an American listing.

[Anonymous No.8475947]

>>8475943
Japs are going to hate us if all the hustlers keep buying up the stock from Japan and drive their own prices up. /vr/ is a really cheap and niche hobby over there.

[Anonymous No.8475952]

>>8475943
Yup. And what's even funnier is that enough speculative kikes have realized that hobbyists have turned to the jap market for many years now for reasonably priced games/systems, and so they've jumped on that bandwagon as well and started buying up jap shit in order to sell it states-side, usually for a significant mark-up that's only slightly less than buying American versions.

A few years ago if you were to search for jap stuff on ebay, you mainly got jap sellers selling internationally. Now you search for jap shit and the overwhelming majority is "US SELLER WOW GREAT DEAL BUY NOW"

[Anonymous No.8475956]

>>8475916
So I'm pretty boned on any of the cart based stuff? What about GBA?

[Anonymous No.8475958]

>>8475956
>GBA
oh no no no, someone else tell him. I don't have the heart to.

[Anonymous No.8475982]

>>8475947
Japs shouldn't be allowed to keep games rotting in their disgusting humid climate

[Anonymous No.8476220]

>>8475956
GBA is the epicentre of the current coomlector wave. Sorry, anon.

[Anonymous No.8476252]

>>8475947
one man literally killed the arcade PCB market over there by buying everything cheap and upselling for huge margins on ebay. Now lots of euros have moved over there and are doing the same to others. Some faggots even take pictures of games/pcbs, auction them, and dont actually have them on hand. They wait for the auction to finish or someone to buy it then go down to the store and buy it to ship it out.

Those faggots destroyed the market and now the Japanese have wisened up and have raised a lot of prices.

[Anonymous No.8476260]

>>8465662
FPGAs will probably replace original hardware as maintenance exceeds the abilities of the average onions drinking NES player.
we'll also probably run into the atari situation where everyone who wants one has one and younger people (e.g. myself on anything pre 1990), don't give a shit.
those who collect cartridges will probably keep the market alive, as most of them are addicted to buying plastic and never actually play any of their """collection"""

[Anonymous No.8476271]

>>8475952
all used stuff is cheaper in japan, it's just the unyun levels with retro gaming stuff are reaching a peak where all sources are being depleted.

i'm putting off a watch purchase until i go there on holiday next year.

[Anonymous No.8476285]

>>8475802
>>8476220

Am I really screwed on everything besides Master System? How bad is SNES really I see alot of games here for $30?

[Anonymous No.8476309]

>>8476285
depends on the game like all things retro

[Anonymous No.8476345]

>>8476309
I dont know if I'm a brainlet or what but the games retailed for around $60, and I see so many here between $20-$40... What's the issue exactly was I bamboozled and SNES is actually cheap?

[Anonymous No.8476362]

Why is /vr/ completely unaware that the entire retro game market is literally a speculator driven investment scheme at this point?

These games are not expensive because of people who want to buy original videogames, they're expensive because of wealthy literal boomers who need to store their wealth in non-cash assets.

It's the same shit as the classical art market and NFTs and shit.Financefags are literally just finding new markets to turn into investments because our economy has reached such a retarded state of decadent stagnation that the usual shit like stocks, shares, real estate, etc are no longer enough.

See also: Vintage guitars, rare vinyl, etc etc...

[Anonymous No.8476376]

>>8476345
I dunno, but all this shit was under $30 years ago, I guess that's what most people compare it to.

[Anonymous No.8476383]

>>8476345
I don't want to rile up the nintendo babbies but snes had a lot of mediocre shit. especially mascot platformers, yearly sports releases, and 15 year old arcade ports. $30 would not be a great deal for a lot of the snes library. also if you see something that seems low, it could be a reproduction. that's honestly something you would rarely see 5+ years ago on US based buyers site like ebay or craiglist, etc, but counterfeits are everywhere now for popular cartridge based systems.

[Anonymous No.8476385]

>>8466010
Yes they do. Someone sold me a PSX Dragon Ball Final Bout factory sealed that was a fake. I sent the seller photos then requested how he wanted to handle it since I was going to open a case either to return or refund me 80% of what I payed (the game was worthless otherwise). eBay immediately sided with me after I spoke to their customer service and checked the proof I sent. I was refunded in less than an hour afterwards (I kept the item as a memento).

[Anonymous No.8476393]

Would you be angry if the bubble popped and the games you paid big money for became worthless?

[Anonymous No.8476407]

>>8476393
no because
1) I don't pay big money for used games
2) I'm not a degenerate speculator and not looking to flip old knick-knacks for lunch money. I bought games because I wanted to own and play them.

[Anonymous No.8476421]

>>8476393
most would be happy because collectors are never satisfied, its not about how much they paid but how much they have and they're always looking for the next thing, so they'd be able to get all the shit they want cheaper.

[Anonymous No.8476440]

>>8476421
Why do they buy shit games?

[Anonymous No.8476454]

I have all the manuals from my GBA games, including maps that came with Golden Sun/TLA.
I should sell them and buy a couple AGS-101s with the proceeds. Because people are apparently fucktarded now.

[Anonymous No.8476457]

Arguably the bubble already did "pop" around 2016. Many console libraries' averages either dropped significantly, slowly bled out, or stabilized around that time. It was only due to the artificial pressure of the covid lockdown shit that caused everything to kick into high gear. But even then, and this may just be anecdotal, but retro games don't seem to be as "cool" in the general zeitgeist as they were in the mid 2010s. Hell, just look at how AVGN was the most popular shit ever and now he's a burnt out husk shilling dollar shave club adverts, to say nothing of all the AVGN clones that havecompletely faded now.

IDK, it just doesn't seem to be a big thing anymore. I think the exorbinate prices are purely from speculators rather than anyone who actually cares about collecting old games.

[Anonymous No.8476460]

>>8476440
dopamine rush of opening something and putting it on a shelf, then the hunt for the next pointless item

[Anonymous No.8476481]

>>8476457
Where's this data from?

[Anonymous No.8476483]

>>8476481
pricecharting

[Anonymous No.8476502]

>>8476483
Damn this is crazy didn't know a site like this existed.

Looks like I fucked up even more by not buying in 2016.

[Anonymous No.8476776]

>>8475301
They sat around at home before. That's why they're called NEETs. Free money helped fuel inflation and if the scamdemic doesn't end soon they'll have to print more of it. Just wait until the entitled fucks have their debts forgiven and are given a living wage. Alternatively, people come to their senses and for them to work for a living. Either way, they have money to spend.

[Anonymous No.8477025]

>>8476362
Yep, it also has happened to shit like pokemon cards during the pandemic. This is worse because youtubers or streamers popularize the scalping and their mindless drones follow their example. The bubble will burst when "investors" get bored of it, or find another market with more margin for profit.

[Anonymous No.8477039]

>>8465662
>Is the retro gaming “collector bubble” ever going to burst

everything is temporary, so yes
but that's just a fact of life. i'm not an economist so idk when retro vidya is gonna stop being flavour of the week

[Anonymous No.8477438]

>>8476271
what kind of watch, anon?

[Anonymous No.8477447]

>>8476457
>retro games don't seem to be as "cool" in the general zeitgeist as they were in the mid 2010s
Hard to say, "retro" shit still seems massively popular. And I mean outside of gaming, look at how expensive 80s and 90s cars are becoming, basically any collectables/cultural artifacts from those decades as well. If anything, people born in the mid to late nineties are coming into money now which explains shit like the GBA/Gamecube/PS2 bubble.

[Anonymous No.8477479]

>>8466186
flashcarts

[Anonymous No.8477484]

>>8477447
I agree completely. I was specifically talking about old games, and even then stuff like GC/GBA would be an exception since it's newer. I think the reason why those things have shot up so ridiculously is precisely because the flu lockdowns lined up perfectly with the general timing of when those early-2000s consoles would start becoming en vogue, leading to an additive effect. I'm more talking about older stuff that had actually already reached its peak, both in terms of price and zeitgeist, years before and then started to slump off.

>>8476776
>They sat around at home before. That's why they're called NEETs.
Okay but do you think literally every single person who buys old games is a NEET? The trend is very clear, immediately after people were forced to stay cooped up at home prices on all old games started skyrocketing because they were sitting around bored.

Inflation and free gibs are certainly a factor keeping this clown show going, but do not on their own explain the sudden surge in values starting right when the lockdowns occurred. The other factor is, like others have stated, other people saw the demand for old games during the lockdowns, and since the economy is such a clusterfuck, starting doing this reseller "side hustle" bullshit adding fuel to the fire. But again, that's all secondary to the primary impetus.

[Anonymous No.8477497]

>>8477438
seiko marinemaster 300.
was going to buy myself one with my first paycheque but they discontinued it about a year before my graduation and then covid set me back getting a job by a good 6 months and now i can't find one for a reasonable price.

[Anonymous No.8477517]

>>8465662
The rises and inflation won't end. By 2030 you won't be able to afford to own anything, and you will be HAPPY.

[Anonymous No.8477672]

>>8475761
I've been buying the fuck out of Xbox, PS2, 360 and PS3 (mostly just for exclusives) just because most of that shit bottomed out. Unless it's an actually rare game like FEAR or it's a backwards compatible OG Xbox game it's not more than 5$-10$. Still a little more than it was 5 years ago but not by enough to price anyone out. Honestly the only reason I've been going back is I want to play a lot of the games my friends had that I never got a chance to own when I was a kid. 6th gen and my grandmas Pentium 2 PC was my introduction to gaming.

In reference to your other posts, yes you're basically fucked out of anything cartridge based. 1/3 of the good Genesis games are still pretty cheap though (or at least they were when I dipped my toe into it). I went Everdrive and never looked back. Same with N64. Check out flea markets for PS1 stuff too. Picked up MGS1 for 5$ over the summer.

[Anonymous No.8477761]

>>8477672
PS3 games seem to be expensive as hell though. Especially the exclusives. Much more than SNES games.

[Anonymous No.8477768]

>>8477672
This. And if you really want to play older consoles, just focus on buying the hardware and just use flashcarts/CD-Rs/ODEs for everything and be done with it.

>>8477761
Not really. Most of the notable exclusives are quite inexpensive. Yeah there's stuff that's pricey like Asura's Wrath and Jojo Allstar Battle, but every console is always going to have its niche expensive games. You can still get a really good personal library of quality PS3 games for cheap.

[Anonymous No.8477809]

>>8477768
>if you really want to play older consoles, just focus on buying the hardware and just use flashcarts/CD-Rs/ODEs

Fucking based. Gonna add not to fuck with NES with it's video outputs. It's up to you if you want a SNES but personally I'd recommend against it because of how well the Wii emulates those two systems. Wii can also run Gamecube .iso files straight from usb if you softmod which is the way to go because Wii is the cheapest way you can get progressive output from GC and the market on that system is completely fucked.

[Anonymous No.8477815]

>>8477761

[Anonymous No.8477894]

>>8477815
Ar NoSurge, Aquapazza, Afrika, Puppeteer, Hyperdimension Neptunia and many others aren't Demons Souls price though. And I dont know if it's an exclusive or not, is the PS5 game a remake or a remaster? I can't seem to get a clear answer. "Its the same game except all new" whatever the fuck that means.

[Anonymous No.8477897]

>>8477894
It is a remake that has identical handling, values, balance, etc.

[Anonymous No.8477915]

>>8465680
it is something much deeper than that anon. this hobby is seriously screwed

[Anonymous No.8478008]

>>8470447
Organise your shit!

[Anonymous No.8478028]

>>8477894
It's the same game with pretty graphics. Demon's Souls wasn't a 20$ game until the remaster. Don't know what to tell you other than you had 10 years to get it. If you missed out, sorry. But 18$ for a new sealed copy is still pretty reasonable. Like>>8477894 said it's one game.

[Anonymous No.8478031]

>>8478028sorry mean to go to
>>8477815

[Anonymous No.8478042]

>>8477894
Okay, a handful of relatively obscure games. I'm not shedding any tears over night owning a copy of a weird safari sim like Afrika.
Meanwhile if you want the killzone games or uncharted games or god of war or modnation racers or MGS4 or demons souls or motorstorm or resistance or infamous or catherine or armored core games or a fuckton of other stuff you can get all that for low prices.

[Anonymous No.8478105]

>>8477897
>>8478028
Oh alright, thanks for clearing that up. I guess that would be a remake if the assets are all new right? Missed out on what though? $20 is cheap as hell for a PS3 game, let alone sealed.

>>8478042
Well I kinda like weird games. And some of those have better versions elsewhere. Uncharted 1-3 on PS4 removed the annoying motion controls (which is a plus in my book), and I have Catherine on Xbox One digitally, I think it was a Games With Gold. I know the online is gone from Modnation Racers, would you say its still worth picking up? I'll check out Infamous and Armored Core though, thanks.

[Anonymous No.8478115]

>>8478105
I mean, if you want to go with the whole "better with future remasters" argument then that pretty much renders the majority of desirable games on many platforms irrelevant, especially when factoring in emulation. I could just as easily argue the best way to play Afrika and any other PS3 games is on RPCS3. And if we're talking strictly logically, then you can just slap a large HDD into the PS3's drive bay, install CFW, and play every game in its library for free that way.

[Anonymous No.8478119]

Also as far as modnation racers, I still play it. It's a great couch multiplayer game. I was never a big fan of online multiplayer in video games, period, so I don't really care about that stuff being gone. Also it's possible people have put up DIY'd custom servers. I know that's been done for other gamers, most notably KZ2 has an active playerbase now.

[Anonymous No.8478136]

>>8478115
Well most remasters are crap though I just think the Uncharted trilogy did a good job by doing very little.

I guess you are right are PS3 and CFW.

[Anonymous No.8478152]

>>8478136
What I'm trying to say is that hobbies like collecting old video game shit aren't strictly "logical" and trying to tie a rational purpose to it is a fool's errand. Think about how much time and attention people put into things like buying a NES and modding it for RGB and getting custom cables and expensive upscalers and all this shit to get the best image quality possible out of the original hardware, all to achieve something that is more or less identical to just displaying the game from an emulator instead.

And the thing is, I DO that sort of thing myself. I've bought old consoles, modded them for better video output, made my own custom cables, etc etc etc. But I just recognize that what I'm doing is a hobby and I find enjoyment in doing stupid ultimately pointless stuff like this even though I could just as easily have played everything perfectly well on an emulator instead.

[Anonymous No.8478169]

>>8466330
My dude. Meds will help. This is not natural.

[Anonymous No.8478179]

>>8469389
You make the most money selling to them bc they have the most money to insult them is to show that you are both aware and accepting of this

[Anonymous No.8478273]

>>8476457
>But even then, and this may just be anecdotal, but retro games don't seem to be as "cool" in the general zeitgeist as they were in the mid 2010s.
I'd argue the opposite. The longer we go into the future, the more people realize how hollow modern pop culture is and how exploitive and terrible modern games are becoming, and are turning to the past that had actual fucking gameplay to it. And gen 4-6 games arent so old that theyre off-putting to a modern audience, yet have enough quality put into them to be endlessly replayable. Most modern games are half assed garbage that dont even look better than shit made over 10 years ago, so why not just play the older ones that are better?

[Anonymous No.8478651]

>>8465662
We will see.
Any item is worth as much as a group of idiots are willing to pay for it.

[Anonymous No.8478986]

Once I get Soldier Blade, Clock Tower 3, Suikoden V, Samurai Western, Fatal Frame 2, Legend of Oasis and Monster World 4 i'm done with coomlecting once and for all. Good riddance.

[Anonymous No.8479047]

>>8478152
Alright, I guess I understand.

I think I am going to start buying SNES games anyway then if I don't need to be rational.

I have one of these, not mine but the same. I always wanted to fill it up with games. 18 slots. Unfortunately I had a really hard time figuring life out after I left home so I sold most everything of value. For some reason the store wouldn't give me anything for the holder so I kept it (got this pic from ebay looks like its worth something now). Been thinking it might be time to fill it up a couple decades too late.

Honestly, I feel I have been horribly misled about the actual prices of SNES games over the years. Keep in mind how expensive games are now. Soul Calibur 6 cost me $130 for all the content (game + season pass 1 + season pass 2). So when I heard SNES games are exorbitant I'm thinking like $500 a cart right? I see headlines about Mario selling for thousands and I just didn't even bother.

But based on this price charting website I could get maybe half my original collection just for the cost of Soul Calibur 6? I'm really not seeing the issue here? Yeah I didn't get that for the sale sure but its not like they are bricks of gold?

[Anonymous No.8479063]

>>8479047
>Honestly, I feel I have been horribly misled about the actual prices of SNES games over the years. Keep in mind how expensive games are now.
A lot of that comes down to context. SNES games shot up in price very early on in the "retro boom" and they were already high-priced while most other things from Genesis onward were still extremely cheap. But then SNES prices leveled off while other things like Gamecube, GBA, all the Sega systems, etc have ballooned in the time since. SNES used to be uniquely expensive as far as the common consoles/games moreso than anything else, but that's no longer the case. But it's still expensive. Like I balk at the idea of paying 30-40 bucks a pop for common as dirt games like Mega Max X and Yoshi's Island.

also the really expensive stuff on that console has generally been the JRPG stuff. Which has personally never really interested me. Earthbound and Chrono Trigger for example.
FWIW japanese stuff is cheaper. When I wanted to buy SNES stuff I just bought jap imports instead. Especially because I don't care about the system's JRPGs and only wanted action games that weren't text-heavy anyway

[Anonymous No.8479145]

>>8479063
Well I've never played Chrono Trigger but obviously I've been told I should. "A classic of the console and a must play" and all that. But JRPGs never really interested me either. I think the Super Famicom and its carts look cool aesthetically but I'd rather just stick to what I know. But from what I can tell on this
>Reddit
list Japan has a huuuuggeee library, so it might be cool to experiment with that at least in emulation.

Course I'd need to find some way to hook it up, only got HDMI. I'll figure it out. Or maybe not. I'm more just shocked the prices are far lower than what I had built up in my mind.

[Anonymous No.8479176]

>>8477484
>do you really think strawman?
>i'm right because my strawman is wrong
Tell me your theory has no chops without telling me
The lockdowns came with free gibs kiddo. Maybe your parent didn't tell you they stopped paying their rent/mortgage?
You understand that the whole world has been analyzing this and you can just go online and find dozens of articles from respected economists and psychologists, right? You don't need to embarass yourself by coming up with ridiculous hot takes.

[Anonymous No.8479539]

>>8478105
My bad anon thought you were complaining about the price lol. There's edge cases with rare games are expensive but for the most part if you're hunting down used you don't have to spend much more than 10$-15$ a game. Not quite as cheap as 360 just because here in North America 360 games sold 2/3rds more than the equivalent PS3 release on average. Not only that but a lot of the early 3rd party ports sucked. 90% of my systems use is running PS3 HEN to boot PS1 disc .isos from usb.