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Hardest retro games ever thread?

Pic related, if you've played it, especially without a guide, you know. It's Wizardry 4 for those curious.

>> No.947106

i imagine its some sort of crazy shmup on mame

gradius 3, raiden, those impossible to beat cave games. At least as far as action games go

wizardry 4 is generally acknowledged to the most difficult rpg ever made

>> No.947101

>inb4 filters

>> No.947098

>>947093
Kabuki: Quantum Fighter. Pretty damn hard.

>> No.947121

>>947093
Wizardry 4 is pretty tough, but most of that is trial and error. Deathlord on the other hand...

>> No.947126

>>947101
people don't give a shit for Apple II/DOS/Amiga emulation, it's more of console thing

>> No.947135

>>947101
It's not like there is much to ruin with filters in such a graphically barren game

>> No.947421

>>947093
I dunno if Dodonpachi is old enough to really be /vr/ material, but damn, reaching the real true ending with 2 loops of the game with 1C is not for mortal beings

>> No.947442
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947442

>>947093

Reach for the stars, if you don't savescum like a bitch.

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947619

I can beat it now but as a kid Damn! it was tuff....

>> No.947672

>>947442

Never heard of this one. What's so bad about it?

>> No.947673

If I want to get into a Wizardry game should I start the series at 1 or is there a generally perceived best one of the series.

>> No.947681

>>947672

It's a 4X (As far as I know, it's the first ever 4X)

But unlike say, MOO II, it's a setting where ships are pretty cheap compared to colonies, and even established worlds are very fragile, by midgame, a fleet that took you one turn to produce can destroy a mid-sized colony.

Now, combine that with a movement system that means it takes you several turns to get anywhere, and there's ZERO early warning when an enemy fleet comes in, unless you have a friendly fleet strong enough to face it when it comes in, your colony burns. You can build defense satellites, but they won't break an enemy fleet, they'll probably just kill one or two of their swarming ships.


So the game degenerates into people building up 5-6 fleets that can smash a world,and flinging them at the opponent, hoping to blow up all of their worlds before they blow up all of yours. It's not quite mutually assured destruction, but it's damn close.

And if there's more than one opponent, it becomes hugely luck based, often the winning player being whomever is the last one to go to war and thus has the longest time to spread colonies around before the bombs start dropping.


It's hellish.

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947876

So, I'm curious...are we talking about games that are legitimately difficult, or can poor controls/interface come into the equation?

This fits either way, I guess...

>> No.947932

>>947673
Start with 6 and go upwards, you can even import your party to the next two.

>> No.948514

>>947106
>Play Gradius 3 on normal
>Can barely get passed stage 1.
JESUS FUCKING SAND LIONS, SAND DRAGONS, FUCKING LEG TURRETS, HOLY SHIT SO MUCH SHIT EVERYWHERE COMING OUT OF EVERY ORIFICE.

>> No.948526

Wizardry 4's True Ending requires the player to have an understanding of a specific, modern interpretation of the Hermetic Kabbalah to succeed.

If that isn't fucking wacky, then I don't know what is.

>> No.948531
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948531

If you've played this game, you know pain.

>> No.948540

>>947876
Legit difficult I'd say. That's what I had in mind when I made the OP anyway

>> No.948780

>>947093
Takeshi's Challenge.
Nothing else even comes close.

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948819

dis nigga right here, also for those of us who enjoy the soundtrack:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLmJ64hSjdE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrqw_RuC9z8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pyh3oRSRUo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpXMg1Pf0Bo

>> No.948847

>>948514

Gradus 3 isn't that hard. Try striker 1945 on mame if you want some real bullet hell. And it's not even the worst I've seen. But it is very very fun and you play as warplanes.

For hard retro games im gonna go chakan on Genesis and super ghosts and ghouls on SNES. Dunno about nes but there are plenty of hard games out there.

>> No.948850

>>948531
Oh god, one my all time fav's. I played through it not long ago, but with save states.

I mean seriously. One shot at the end boss when you're in the golden warpship. Otherwise, surprise! Level 12 all over again. lol. Fuck!

>> No.948887

>>948819
capcom was really good back in those days with >>948819
he nes and snes.

>> No.949073

>>947681

Sounds interesting. I wouldn't call it difficult though, I would call it a weird setting. It is same for every player right? Where do you find others to play against or do you face CPU?

>> No.949089

>>948780
It was meant to be crappy. Really.

>> No.949178

>>948847
>Gradus 3 isn't that hard

You're thinking of the SNES version. The original arcade version is (in)famous as one of the hardest shooting games ever made.