/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>14745497
I'm tired of them putting rrats in the global that bring the frickin Lunas close up, I'm sick of that shit

>>13690073
Not the anon you're replying to, but I am the? an? anon who pushes that rrat. I tend to use the word "injecting" a lot if that helps you identify me.


Loyal, enthusiastic, paying fans (who think idol culture is misogynistic, are titillated by collabs with non-vtuber male e-celebs, and if they ever came under even mild media scrutiny would buckle and agree that Gura sexualising herself with e.g. her usual retweets is unacceptable pandering to pedophiles):
>good (+6)
++numbers, ++money, ++chat messages worth reading
>bad (-4)
--insularity, --resistance to western puritanism
>neutral (0)
~talent safety
>overall: +2

vs

Volatile schizos that have negative impact on the talent (when the talent tries to stray too far from idol rules or collab with men, and who, if they ever came under media scrutiny, would scream "UOHH CHILD BELLY EROTIC" and stand with Gura and the ojisans till the end):
>good (+2)
++insularity
>bad (-4)
--talent safety, --chat messages worth reading
>neutral (0)
~numbers, ~money, ~resistance to western puritanism
>overall: -2

So, on a flat weighting, the loyal-ironic fans bring much more to the table than the volatile schizos. But Hololive doesn't float in the ther, it exists with a specific set of circumstances and so we can do better than a flat weighting.

Hololive already has an extreme excess of numbers and money, to the point that its worst performers are still something like top 500 in the industry. More money and more numbers is just "win more", so they're irrelevant.

Hololive does have pretty notoriously bad chats that the talents insist on interacting with, so better chat quality is definitely an advantage to have. Likewise, talents do have to be quite paranoid to stay safe and Cover already spends significant resources on that; making it worse would be a disadvantage for sure.

Hololive's small amount of Insularity allows it to be a safe haven from outside politics, and its resistance to western puritanism allows talents like Gura to indulge her foot fetish or Nene to uohh herself to tears over a young girl in a swimsuit secure in the knowledge that none of her fans will say "isn't this pedophilic?", and if one does the rest will be united in mockery of that one. They know it can't even get a foothold. Without insularity you get talents telling you to get the jab or who to vote for leading to extended debates with retards in chat (incredibly common streaming archetype that many big streamers fall into); without puritan resistance Hololive straight up dies for real because every Holo has already more than incriminated themselves by puritan standards, and the clips are out there for proof. So increasing insularity or puritan resistance is "lose less"; it works to mitigate some of the biggest threats to Hololive's existence.

So that re-weighting looks like so:

>good (+1)
numbers, money, +chat messages worth reading
>bad (-6)
---insularity, ---resistance to western puritanism
>neutral (0)
talent safety
>overall: -5

>good (+3)
+++insularity
>bad (-2)
-talent safety, -chat messages worth reading
>neutral (0)
numbers, money, resistance to western puritanism
>overall: +1

TL;DR:
Hololive already has more than enough of all the (lots of) good stuff those fans bring, but the (little bit of) bad stuff they bring is really bad for Hololive, pretty close to its kryptonite, even.

(Of course, ideally we would bring in neither, but that would be intellectually dishonest and dodging the question.)