/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Dropping isn't a schizo move.

>>10078226
Fpbp
"I don't like this about her so I'm going to stop watching her" is the sanest and most reasonable response

>>10078226
It is if you convince yourself that Vtuber basically broke up with you because he/she said or did this or that on stream. I'm sure that hardcore fans have mighty schizo projections.

>>10078178
When Gura said this. Really grinds my fucking gears man. Kronii is my oshi now.

https://files.catbox.moe/w0o0gk.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/w0o0gk.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/w0o0gk.mp4

>>10078178
you find out she has a boyfriend.

>>10078460
You mother fucking bitch son of a fucking shitbag ill find you and fucking kill you

this shit and mentioning she felt like quitting until she saw the support of fans on twitter

like bitch i don't want to get emotionally invested in someone who considers killing their character off if something sad happens

>>10078460
I knew it

I don't ever stop following, they just stop streaming for various reasons.

>>10078178
When EN2 were debuting Ame tweeted that she was chatting with Ina and Kiara and asked if we were jealous, I wasn't even jealous but I hate that attitude,

>>10078178
I don't think it's schizo but I've seen people call it that, I dropped Amelia when she did that fucking Membership poll begging to be allowed to go in creative mode to cheat in thousands of blocks.
This was the worst thing she has ever done, it shows that she both doesn't really understand the point of games and how cheating once ruin it cause you feel the need to cheat for every little effort, plus it wasn't her server but the server of the gen, ruining it and tainting by cheating was so egoistical. I'll never forget what she did.

>>10078460
>NOOOOO, you can't talk about feeling depressed in the past
You're a retarded faggot

I'm leaving my oshi for a vtuber who plays video games, does some karaoke and has a mandatory special stream at least 2 times a year.
I can't stand that my current oshi, aside from doing that (and with more variety and frequency than most), has so many special streams and innovative projects, because two of them (among many) failed.
I'm going to leave her, for someone who doesn't try to be interesting or have motivation, to stop letting me down by being an autistic piece of shit with no empathy. I'd rather sink into the routine of a "this is enough" vtuber than live an ascending roller coaster of emotions whose lowest point is as good as everyone else's midpoint

>>10078543
>like bitch i don't want to get emotionally invested in someone who considers killing their character off if something sad happens
How many chuubas are you dropping by the minute?

People dropped Kronii after the whole boyfriend doxx.
Why would somebody care about a vtuber boyfriend? fucking cucks

>>10078897
It's less about it actually happening than them telling you it could have happened and making you worry about their mental state constantly. I'm STILL worried about Korone's mental health and it's been months.

>>10078460
I'll break your bones

>>10078178
>mentions a popular meme phrase
its over bros, she's reddit

>>10079151
POGU POGU DANCE!

>>10078460
Wow you really dropped Gura for that? You really are a fucking shizo psychopath.

>>10078178
is it schizo to drop them if i find their roommate unattractive

When mumei just stood around instead of looking for food herself in a game called "don't starve". Like most of the time she was just waiting for mommy fauna to feed her. People who don't pull their weight, especially if they are faking it in order to fit some helpless/cute/protecc character, grinds my fucking gears. I swore I would never watch mumei again after that.

>>10078178
She ghosted her youtube fanbase despite being nothing without them, and started shitting on the platform and the so called "community" on Twitter. The reason i bring it up as a "schizo reason" is beacuse i read one tweet of hers that suggested that being the reason she only upload vods and occasional covers.
Also her model is ugly as fuck and would have made her a 2view if not for her previous life.

Anya covering up her boobs has over time turned into "Anya hates her audience for sexualizing her loli-esque model and that's why she's always so stubborn about doing and saying what she wants despite her dropping view counts. She would rather drive away the people in her audience who she views as "creeps" than be successful."

I haven't watched her since she got the new outfit. I hate it, and I don't think she's ever going back to her old one.

>>10078460
from garbage to trash

she made realistic sniffling noises for a fucking cod. great acting to be able to cry on the spot but it was too ridiculous and broke my immersion. made me question whether every vtuber I cried along with were just really good at acting too.

>>10078673
I didn't witness this but I feel you: flexing on people strikes me as being really classless. Doesn't help that it seems like everything's a flex nowadays. It's really rewarding watching people like that have life knock them down a peg.

>>10078178
They wouldn't stop saying SUS.

When I went outside and picked up the mail for my Amamiya bday merchandise and tripped over my own feet and the package fell down, I dropped her. I just hope she'll neber find out!!

>>10079348
no

>>10079718
who?

>>10079795
She WILL find out about this. I'LL make sure of it.

>>10079551
Kek, I can't believe she would go to such lenghts
Now I wonder if she hates being a fanservicey loli or just having oppai, but she definitely rejects being seen as sexy

>>10078460
where tf are jannies when you actually need them

I'm afraid about Lilyhops and that fetish rat colab, being honest.

>>10079551
based vtuber, you sound like a fucking pedo

>>10079551
>She would rather drive away the people in her audience who she views as "creeps" than be successful
this is admirable

>>10078460
>https://files.catbox.moe/w0o0gk.mp4
bitch go fuck yoursefl

>>10079909
I genuinely think its the loli angle because in her first couple streams she was doing the boing boing memes and having fun and everything, then once the fan art started coming out it stopped. She made a big deal about how her new outfit is "more mature" and hasn't used her old model for anything.

>>10080128
Sure am. That's why I watch Gura instead.

>>10079551
based but I'm gonna miss her old model's hair

>>10078460
You know it's too late when you don't even flinch. I was just thinking 'what was she talking about again? Oh yeh, now shut the fuck up'.

>>10080110
Lily is 100% a freak though, she follows a lot of lolicon artists. I mean, she literally roleplays a little girl to an audience of hundreds of people day in and day out.

>people who were complaining about no lore

Get out

>>10078460
On one hand I fucking hate this
On the other hand it can filter some of the retarded normalfaggots who treat this board like a zoo
Overall my feelings are mixed

>>10078489
>>10079042
I'm glad they have boyfriends, I don't want to have to reject them after they fall in love with me

There was a tranny who dropped gura over her not acknowledging a superchat about trannies or something dumb.

>>10078460
started laughing while watching

>>10081054
Can't believe how much more I love Gura every day.

>>10081054
They literally filter themselves, its excellent

>>10081240
That has been a common trend even outside of vtubing.

>>10078460
She really let herself go this time huh?

>>10078178
When you start to have actual feelings for a chuuba, that's when you know it's time to stop watching.

>>10079795
Tq anon, you made my day.

Towa for not comitting to anything other than apex
>still hasn't finished hollow knight for over a year even though she said she would finish it last month
>indivisibiru is dead
>eigo reps neglected
>korean reps neglected
And even though she could just stream herself playing Apex she refuses to stream solo apex despite the fact that she plays for hours every single day

>>10081866
>eigo
who cares
>korean
literally who cares

>>10078178
She doesn't care about her lore. So much work has been put into having a cool lore and she doesn't care

>>10082068
annoying orange isn't even a real fruit stop deluding yourself

>>10081915
She had a 50% eop fanbase for over a year, she should have cared, and she has korean friends, she actually cares about that one but she's too lazy to learn properly

>>10082136
eops and koreans should just learn japanese instead

>>10078711
100% schizo, please take your meds

>>10079551
ID woman as a whole seem like a fucking mistake. I specially hate double dipping pieces of shit. that's why I can't stand kiara nor hakos too, english or japanese? pick a fucking lane.

Well I only watch a single chuuba and no one else, but I do acknowledge those my favorite likes, or those who like her too.
But the ones who may talk shit about her or be horrible to her in general, I'm not just dropping them but I'm gonna anti them too

People here because of some rrat tranny shit

>>10078178
Calling yourself a schizo like you're some joker figure is incredibly cringeworthy OP. You and the other faggots here dropped them due to your manchild nature.

>>10078178
Drop hololive fully become holoEN come and i don't want to see the community Destroyed by indie vtuber, come back again after 9 month just to watch nijisanji only because the community is still small and now gay because i love male (they to entertaining man what can i say)

>>10078543
quick run down?

>>10078226
>>10078282
Something cannot be both sane and immoral. Sanity is by definition moral, and insanity is by definition immoral.

>>10078178
>What are some of the most schizo reasons that made you or someone you know, stop following a chuuba?
When I find out they are /here/ or dog whistle this shithole or the jay. I've struck all of HoloMyth out except Ina and half of NijiEN. HoloCouncil is still enjoyable to me, especially hag rrat and Sana. Phase Connect is out. Most of PrismProject is cool. Tsunderia is cool.

>>10079551
>She would rather drive away the people in her audience who she views as "creeps" than be successful
This is based as fuck

I stopped following Mori after being really into since debut, when memberships came out and she was the only one with T3 exclusive streams.
I ended up being members to the other four instead.

>>10079551
i blame shen umiushi and no one else.

>>10083889
Korone's family member died in the earthquake a few months back and she was going to quit streaming. A bunch of redditors spammed her posts though and she felt obligated to continue on. She's back to normal most days, but she still has that lingering feeling that she's only still doing this because she was coerced to a degree and she feels like she sold out her integrity

>>10080282
Do you guys realise what a miracle it is that the most popular vtuber in the world uses 4chan and likes cunny?

>>10078711
Ame would 100 percent bitch and mock someone for doing that themselves too. She's charming enough in collabs and non-gaming streams, sadly for her gaming is the bread and butter so her DSP personality comes out.

>>10079501
Who is this, I can't work it out.

>>10084506
>what a miracle it is that the most popular vtuber in the world uses 4chan
Have you never seen the image of 4chan shitting out content that reddit gets that it shits into facebook etc. ? Of course the best stuff is from a fringe site like 4chan. Gura has just leveraged herself into a spot where she can skip all the middle men and shit the content right into our faces

>>10078178
Dropped Selen because she streamed with a TTS tranny

>>10084844
based chocolate enjoyer

>>10080282
>Gura's life advice
>Doesn't follow it herself
Classic western woman, anything to rant and order.

>>10078178
>>10078543
I have also had a hard time watching koro-san the past couple months.its probably me but I feel like she is over acting or leaning into her character too much. I can't pin it to anything specific, but she feels 'off'. Some laughs now come off as fake to me.

>>10083564
Have you ever considered not being a casual normie?

>>10084844
>that reddit gets
Those screencaps on reddit and twitter are 100% how Gura consumes the 4ch stuff she knows.

>>10078178
I rememeber when Mori officially dropped date streams and some people had a shitfit.

GURA'S FIRST NAME IS NICK

>>10085159
Which is weird because she feels way more intimate/'GFE' now than when she was actually doing them, which is the opposite of what people expected.

>>10085235
She's just being a bro anon, don't make it weird.

>>10085159
>officially dropped date streams
What was her reason? I don't watch much Mori but all the clips I see spammed by channels she's certainly happy to still pander to girlfriend wanting viewers.

>>10083927
Shut up faggot

>>10085253
She found out the memes had truth and deadbeats were into getting cucked.

>>10085180
shub nig gura th?

>>10078178
I stopped watching Ollie after the Connor arc and I refuse to watch her because she keeps trying to collab with e-celebs. I like Ollie and she's been doing some great things, but she makes me angry because she never learns and then gets hurt; I'll watch her again once I'm sure TT isn't getting any more close to Hololive

Also, I stopped watching Kiara and Mori after they had collabs with VShojo and the card game with Gigguk, AND I didn't forget 5%, so I became a Trinityfag. But since then, they have redeemed themselves in my eyes and my oshi is very happy being around them, so I'm willing to start watching them again and chill out a bit

>>10085253
She mentioned she was embarrassed but this was also when she was pushing being friends with chat. Which is even funnier cause she had a bath stream. Now she goes back to after you die when she get asked about marriage or something.

>>10078178
I dropped Mori during week 1 when she would let paypigs derail her stream. Never looked back.

>>10085036
Well I'm not a manwhore so my heart belongs to one and one only

>>10079151
Most of the Hololive vtubers have reddit accounts

>>10085159
That whole start of June really proved how many schizos her fanbase has.

>>10083927
This might be sheltered-almost-24-year-old talk, in the event someone smarter and wiser than me reads this, but I don't think you can morally judge the actions of an insane person beyond the harm committed. Meanwhile, someone who harms others to protect themselves is operating on a sense of self-preservation, which may or may not be appropriate, depending on the circumstances, but is nonetheless possible for a sane person.
What the titty-twisting Christ does this have to do with choosing not to watch a streamer over another streamer?

>>10084506
>likes cunny?
You're projecting

>>10084844
>fringe site like 4chan.
Imagine believing this. 4chan isn't your secret club, it has at least 22 million unique viwers a month; what else would you expect from the most popular english imageboard?

>>10085328
>she keeps trying to collab with e-celebs
They're literally e-celebs.
>5%
What bullshit drama is this, now?

>>10079151
>pisses on the floor
Haha, I love piss.

>>10085823
Mori said she only spends about 5% of her time streaming, and some people took that to mean that she only puts 5% effort into her streams

>>10085823
Sasuga cuckbeat, you'll always be the ones that never change. Also, how new?

I dropped Kronii because I saw that they actually prefer "they" pronouns. I'm not gay, so that non binary stuff isn't for me

>>10084261
ogey

>>10086218
I don't watch Calli. If she does something interesting to me, sure, I was just wondering what the fresh hell you were talking about.
>>10086188
Got my answer
>how new?
I don't follow every piece of scuttlebutt that comes out of Hololive Global. I tend to avoid it, in fact.

>>10078178
kys cumshart

>>10078178
I dropped Matuli when she went full menhera. Its a very valid reason, I just didn't enjoy her anymore, since it wasn't what I signed up for. Contrary to popular belief, she wasn't always the yab generating menhera slut that she is today.

I dropped Ayame, cause she never streams anymore. Also a valid reason. I get invested in these girls for consistent viewing, something I can tune in for after a day's work, but if she only streams once in a blue moon, then there's really not much to keep me invested in her anymore.

>>10086481
I'm not from Global but thanks for answering
You better keep up with things then, newfag

>>10078178
That dude didn't even drop Rushia, he was a longtime fandead just making a tweet. It was just an observation of how he felt her getting more distant but she's trying her best and he won't leave her, which Rushia then felt really hurt by the tweet cuz she spends hours doing shit purely to keep her fans close as a menhera and then they still feel fucking feel distant. He then killed his account in shame for making feel Rushia feel miserable and is still probably a fandead under a new account name. Either that or dead. Fans are like their streamers afterall.

>>10079151
>says a spanish word
fucking whore, pandering to the worst fanbase

>>10087015
both rushia and the schizo is mental

>>10083927
Are you saying it's immoral to stop watching a chuuba?

>>10080403
Nigga called lily "she" LOL

>>10088901
that should be a capital offense

>>10088574
yea that's why i'm a fandead. I'm also mentally ill & obsessive like my streamer and my fellow fans

>>10079795
kek

>>10084652
It is hard to guess. My guesses so far are Nyanners and Mana but I don't think their models are ugly.

I dropped Nyanners after browsing her threads here.

>>10083889
This happened around Coco’s graduation announcement. There’s no official information but most likely she felt down because of that.

>>10083927
Shut up Kant.

a chuuba I watch is dating one of her mods (according to an extremely reliable source). do i drop?

>>10086580
Both of your reasons are agreeable. I started watching Matsuri because I found her funny and really charismatic but right now she’s just insanely tame/watered down and 80% of her streams are apex or fillers because she really just want to play apex.

The good side is that this kind of changes might help you enjoy new chubas. For example, I’m lately really enjoying Okayu and Lamy.

>>10091657
You should assume that of every twitch bitch.

>>10091739
it's not that dating is bad, I dont care about that. It's that she is actively deceiving people by constantly reassuring them that she is single. I just don't like dishonesty.

>>10078178
I dropped Mori, Kiara and Ollie for getting involved with anitubers. I don't have any interest in seeing those guys on stream so often. I would watch them again now that they aren't doing that stuff anymore, if I hadn't already replaced them with other vtubers I like more.

>>10083996
Tsunderia is /here/ as fuck you newfag

>>10083712
unfortunately for you, OA is a confirmed tranny lmao

>>10091929
It's a character.

>>10078178
I dropped Selen when she started laughing at real medical conditions. "HAHAHA I hope its kidney stones HAHAHA". "HAHAHA at least its not kidney failure HAHAHA"

I unironically drop any chuuba that I know got the vax. Don’t want to get too attached when they drop like a fly in a couple of weeks.

>>10091929
You are retarded, no tranny EVER would answer with "I don't care" on a question about pronouns.

>>10092720
Clips or it didn't happen

>>10093156
I had to endure hearing her voice again but here you go anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SJnBx0K9BU&t=5344s

>>10078673
That lowkey made me feel worse than amegeddon

>>10092828
Meds.

>>10078178
I can't watch girls I know have self-destructive or "menhera" issues. Polka, Rushia, Gura, all trigger that sense of saviorfagging that I like to avoid.

>>10093517
>thinking a guy who hates vax will take meds

>>10093703
I'm surprised anyone does. If you think the government is using vaccines to turn white people sterile, medication that makes you stop thinking things like that is going to seem like a plot to lobotomise people who know the truth.

>>10093517
Yeah, I’ll stick with the non experimental types like ivermectin. Keep your filthy clotshot nigger.

>>10093703
Kek.

>>10086282
wait source on this???

>>10091657
if they aren't ugly they aren't single, get over it.

>>10093994
roommate

>>10094081
Do all council have roommates already? I thought they didn't.

>>10078178
Any chuuba that yuribaits i drop. I dropped like 20 chuubas, latest one was Kana. And when i say yuribait i mean if they ever imply they like women, fictional or real, or say tehy had some lesbian fling in the past. Vtubing is a GFE fantasy, as much as people wanna deny it, i dont wantyurishit in my GFE fantasy,

>>10094105
I haven't seen believable evidence for Mumei or Bae yet, but the other three are pretty easy

>>10094113
If they're straight they're just going to cuck you, but they can't cuck you if they're gay.

>>10078673
>>10093513
I really dont get it, whats the context, why would anyone be jealous, dont they talk all the time.

>>10094150
They cant be GFE is they are gay anon. Also to me the perfect chuuba would be one that treats chats with the GFE experience and adresses chat as you instead of chat and never yuribaits, but that doesn't exist.

>>10086282
Women in the chuuba insutry are more than likely gay and crazy, imagine the type of women that says "yes i wanna play pretend being an anime girl for lonely nerds who give me money while i flirt with other women 24/7". You arent gonna get the most stable or, straight women in there.

The weird rapid blinking on guras model is her sending coded messages to my gangstalkers.

>>10094143
Mumei's name and adress(at least former) are known by now. This shit is scary.

>>10094105
Kronni stuff is pretty solid, there are yt of her previous life saying it. Shes you average SJW type. You should be used to chuba roomate being like this, regular stable women dont go for the vtubing route.

>>10094262
Nah, just her glasses catching light reflections and camera in her iPhoneMax not being able to resolve them. Fuck she's cute.

>>10094302
She could be obese for all we know, any roomate stuff of hers is old.

>>10091929
Its a guy, who says he is non binary shit so goslings dont go crazy. Not like it matters, half of this girls are lesbos the other half are bi leaning toward women, so not like any gosling ever has a chance.

>>10094326
There are degrees to it. At 15 or so she was pretty chonky, but more recent stuff shows she slimmed down hard. I believe right now she is at the very least chubby due to her lifestyle and food choices.

>>10094289
help me with a search term...?

>>10094215
schizochama.......

>>10094215
That's kind of sad, anon. At least if you get really into ERP or something you can pretend to be in love with somebody who actually talks to you.

>>10094452
I dont want a vacation lad. I cant even remember the way to find it again anyway, it was some Q&A video her previous identity did.

>>10094472
Bitch im 31 years old , never had a gf, i sleep on a couch and i will almost certainly never feel the love of a women, let me indulge in retarded GFE at the least.

>>10094524
ERP is filled with homosexuals anon, any "women" ERPing is a gay guy or a tranny, and if its VC then its a gay guy with a voice changer.

>>10094535
Found it, wow I didn't know literally every holo member had a roommate. That's wild

>>10094696
But you too have a roommate.

>>10094302
I believe this is a literal eyelid motion, nothing to do with glasses. It's more of a zoomer girl thing where they do this with their eyes to keep them from drying out because they're on a screen 24/7.

>>10094326
She downs monsters by the 6 pack, that women isn't healthy regardless of weight.

>>10094729
Wow, I always thought Kronii's roommate was a they/them. Now I believe her roommate just has a sultry voice that cracks sometimes. Hmmmmmm

>>10094696
>I didn't know literally every holo member had a roommate
Did you think they were AIs or something? Im sure one day vtubers will be actually AIs but that day is not today.

>>10085122
Watch streams

>>10078178
A 2view chuuba once said she doesn't like and won't stream in her native language despite being a "PHvtuber". It sucks because she's actually really cute when she speaks her native language during the collabs. She's trying to cash in on that English audience with her terrible English accent. I immediately unmembered, unsubbed, left her discord and unfollowed on Twitter.

>>10094269
The internet is scary but at least it gives me motivation to do opsec reps

>>10078178
im esl and dont understand shit she says

>>10095006
Why would you follow them in the first place if you didn't understand anything?

>>10094775
Kronii's roommate is a they/them

>>10081866
Towa isn’t my oshi but I still thought it was fucking weird that she ignored doing her eigo reps this whole time but when rpr shows interest in her she immediately schedules a duolingo stream.

>>10095026
because this small cat has some big milkers

>>10079348
Probably the most normal statement I've read since browsing /vt

>>10095039
All I saw was her roommate's YT channel and she seems legit. Also there was a different sns page that described her roommate as "they" but it doesn't mean she chose to use that.

>>10078178
After knowing about Nyanners' past and her anti behaviours outside of streaming, I was in absolute wreck. I immediately dropped her and became an anti. For some reason knowing that felt worse than being cheated on, felt like being backstabbed by your best friend. Her anti behaviours stopped after people kept pointing it out as their main reason as to why they hate her. I don't think we'll get another Nekopara incident, but if we do then I'll continue hating on her. Fucking lying bitch said she didn't know anything about it but you can easily disprove that bullshit if you go through her history.

TLDR dishonesty will make me immediately drop anyone and become their anti.

>>10095458
there's both a q&a and their official website where roommate uses they

>>10095039
>>10095458
she doesn't she did it as a business decision

>>10079042
Kroniiii has a Boyfriend!!!!! I thought it was just Fauna and Mumei. Whats the rrats on this?

>>10084937

>>10078178
I stopped following Ina as closely because I felt that she didn't care that much about being a vtuber. She gave me the impression that she's only at cover to network, and her fans are secondary to that goal. I can't blame her, I'd do the same thing, but that's not the type of content producer I want to follow.

>>10094685
>Not being bisexual

kek looks like people really are scrambling to try to discredit Kronii due to envy or just shitposting, that the info is all over the place. First it was her being lesbo so men didn't have a chance, then her being trans, now people are going for boyfriend. I wonder what's next, that she hates men?

>>10095665
This is cope

>>10096112
Her roomate isn't trans, but she is a they/them. She quite literally says so on a video.

>>10079551
>She would rather drive away the people in her audience who she views as "creeps" than be successful."
Based, GFE and coomer pandering is so fucking lame.

I got sick of the whole Haato/Haachama thing. It's not innovative, it's the most by-the-books, trash VN level routine. I also got sick of her just uploading fan videos with her just saying her name over them. The whole "Haachama is wacky" thing is more forced than TakaMori.

Not a schizo but I switch to a new chuuba whenever they stop focusing on entertaining the whole audience and just focus on speaking directly to me. It’s not fair to all the other members and viewers for the girl to be addressing me specifically, and I’m sure it’s not a great feeling for everyone else when the girl is saying my name every other sentence. It’s unprofessional.

>>10095963
thats ina and calli after all, one just care about her main job as she draws, the other only care that her musics are popular and cant even force herself to know anyone else other than her gen.

>>10093513
but what? why is it news that they talk? what is there to be jealous about?

>>10078178
I dropped Korone because she doesn't EOPander as much anymore.

>>10094647
I wonder what life choices take you to this route.
any way, women are overrated, sure they will make you feel great, however the more you stay with one the bigger the chances she will manipulate you which once you get over her you will realize how much she did and it will muddle all the good memories.

>>10078178
Reasons to drop them?
My ass was itchy xD

>>10080110
he's a troon 100% especialy after new info came out recently

>>10095665
Just accept that our clock is an enby, no need to cope

>>10096405
As probably the only leftie on /vt/, non-binary counts as trans. Most people don't really think of NB as trans though.

>>10097788
The technology for troons to sound like that isnt there yet. I don't know what lilys deal is but I know the rrats and Im thinking she went through a confused period or was fishing for attention or something.

>>10099248
As a leftie you should know somebody can prefer "they/them" pronouns without being NB. Gender Identity does not equal preferred pronouns. Kronii could just prefer how "they" sounds and not necesarrily identify as non-binary.

>>10107738
>Gender Identity does not equal preferred pronouns
is this a real thing
do people use she/him because it "rolls off the tongue"

>>10078178
I convinced myself that every time vtubers talk about their mother they actually talk about their boyfriend

>>10107738
>>10096405
The whole concept of tying gender (the grammatical concept) to gender (identity) is really stupid to me. They/them is just a way to indicate that gender is not specified, which is appropriate if you want to voice characters that are either male, female, Kyubey or Omegaα etc. You shouldn't make it political or equate it to a statement about identity in the first place.
Also, this isn't about Kronii because it's roomate shit. Kronii the character is as female as a manifestation of the concept of time - or whatever the lore is - can be: female in appearance only.

>>10078282
lol sure, except the reasons you guys do it are almost always insane and/or autistic

>>10078178

10083134
Not getting a (you) but this is a baffling post

>>10108223
Yes, there are people who just like different pronouns but are cis (don't have a differing gender identity than the one they were born with). Typically they've hung out with trans people enough to realize they can, despite being cis, just change their gender pronouns if they want to whathever they like the sound of the most cuz why not, especially on the internet. There are also legitimate trans people who use pronouns that are not their gender identity, such as trans girls (for those who don't understand any trans lingo, trans girls are those born male who transitioned female/have a female gender identity) who somehow manage to identify as using the pronouns he/him. I don't understand how those people don't get gender dysphoria from asking to be called "he/him" when they're trying to transition to female, but they exist and are not a satire, I read some entire poorly designed PSA website someone made about the topic.

Anyway the main message is that pronouns aren't equivalent to gender identity. If Kronii hung around trans people enough they could've figured ou they just prefer the sound of "they/them" even if they still identify as a cis-female and aren't trans at all. Also even if Kronii is NB, the amount of differing gender identities within NB is so vast that the term NB basically tells you nothing (most people assume it just means androgynous but that's not the case). Basically you can't tell shit about Kronii's gender identity just from "they/them".

>>10099248
No, you've got it wrong. Not only is not all NB trans, if you actually watched Kronii's video she says she wants to be able to try out for both male and female voices.
You guys know Ryushen of Nijisanji? She is 'genderless' but that's just her character, to be able to sing as both a male and female. Everyone still refers to her as a girl in person and she's careful to not insinuate she's actually genderless IRL when answering gender questions on her advice corner.
It's way more viable that Kronii said they/them for VA things. Or else, she'd have a model like Melissa, an actual genderfluid vtuber, her model has a flat chest and she requested a short hair version. Not a huge titty model.
This other anon discussing NB is projecting way too much

>>10108740
Gender expression isn't necessarily political until someone makes a problem over it.

>>10109097
Wow, that is fucking retarded

>>10109306
I used to think that way until about 2014 or so, then I spoke with people and read up and now have no problem with trans people or this pronoun discourse. I realized it hurts no one and helps to make people happy so I see no reason to be mad or upset.

>>10108810
>deleted
Oy vey! Shut it down!

>>10109413
Or maybe the random headline has nothing to do with the thread?

>>10109470
>using schizo for everything you don't like
No I'm pretty sure it does

I more or less don't watch Aqua because she gives off high "I have a boyfriend" energy. I'm still subbed but I don't really ever watch. If it ever gets to me I just write it off as she only sings songs and they aren't even good songs. I almost never watch Okayu and I'm not really sure why. Her personality is great but maybe she gives off an insidious zoomer aura or something.

>>10109509
I didn't call anyone a schizo.

>>10109306
Its meant to chip at social cohesion

look
>>10109355
they use language that minimizes their actual efforts

>>10109540
>What are some of the most schizo reasons
Calling everything schizo is unironically what actual schizos do

>>10109355
I don't have any problem with trans people, i respect if they feel different and want to be recognized with their perceived gender.
But now is all bullshit with that pronouns =/= gender thing, is like a joke to make free drama for nothing.

>>10109355
>>10109793
>>>/reddit/

>>10109607
Make sure to wear your tinfoil hat, anon. It's not meant to "chip at social cohension", people just want to feel more comfortable and ease their dysphoria. One day you will go outside and stop believing boomer Facebook conspiracies you see on /pol/

>>10109793
Also I have never seen anyone do this pronouns not of their gender thing before and I know quite a few LGBT people, it's probably extremely rare Twitter zoomers doing it.

>>10109793
It doesn't matter really, progressivism always wins this ways. Look at your own comment, you are already accepting enough that is a progressive victory. Conservatives can't counter it because they are kind of retarded to he honest, leftist are playint checkers they are playing chess. You need theory to counter progressive efforts and republicans have almost zero theory nowdays.

>>10109876
Go the fuck back

>>10109876
I dont have a facebook and i hate polfaggots, im not even white you dumbass faggot. Chipping away at social norms is a basic ass tenet of progressivism. Critical theory (a foundation of modern leftist progressive thinking) is meant to chip away at power structures they dont like and replace with leftist structures.

>>10109355
You will never be a woman.

>>10109299
Its a destruction of norms to be replacee by leftist solutions, is very much political.

>>10110088
I'm not trans, so I don't plan on it.

>>10110033
And sure there are things actual Leftists want to do and replace power structures for sure. Respecting trans people doesn't mean anything beyond treating people like human beings though.

>>10109876
I mean I've seen more people use gender pronouns that differ from their gender identity & cis people using different pronouns than I've ever seen anyone actually refer to themselves as a neo-pronoun like xer or whatever, so it's relevant enough if neo-pronouns can be a topic cuz the former is even if rarer much more frequent than neo-pronouns which are barely existent and I've never seen in real life. Source: almost all my zoomer friends & communities i interact with are some flavor of lgbt

>>10110136

>>10110220
once you go but "DA JEWZ" I now know you are a lost cause and will never change your mind. Sorry for trying to help you

>>10110281
Okay bunkertranny

>>10110281
Ok falseflagging jew

>>10086282
If you hate trannies so much why are you still using her preferred pronouns?

I don’t really give a fuck about someone’s sexuality, much less about politics in general. I’ll interact with you if we get along, that’s it, just be a cool dude and not an asshole
Now, please stop derailing this thread with that bullshit, we’re on nu-4chan

im
>>10110033

not
>>10110220
This fucking schizo restarded polfag who probably has never read a political book in his life.

>>10078178
I was having extremely schizo feelings for Ame but I never dropped her because I got it under control.
I'd send her SC's and have imagined thoughts that she was disgusted while reading my SCs specifically and that she hated me. To cope I'd play her reading my SCs multiple times just so that I could convince myself that she was just reading them normally.
I'm really mentally ill it's kind of nuts, I don't SC vtubers anymore.

>>10109299
People used to throw fits over it all the time. Now normies walk on eggshells around a privileged class that can and have ruined lives for this shit. Now, It's gonna be political until people start burning those kinds of books again or the idea of expressing these things becomes insane again

>>10110623
meant for
>>10110281

>>10110623
>>10110664
You aren't fooling anyone

>>10110623
Meds, now

>>10098256
Oh god no I really wanted to like her. Well, since I've not seen her roommate's info I'll just pretend it isn't real.

>>10081866
To be fair Indivisible is fucking trash. I wouldn't blame anyone for dropping it.
Hollow Knight is also pretty mediocre, it gets carried hard by its animations.

>>10110281
All the peoples/countries with an above replacement birthrate hate the shit you're preaching. Why are you so militant about it when your ideology is going to disappear in the near future because you could literally not have sex?

>>10094452
do your own research anon, it's really not that hard. There's an entire video on youtube about it. Stop trying to bait bans.

>>10111458
Im not a progressive but ideologies dont have replicate via famiies, progressivism grows even as birth rates slow down.

>>10096744
Based I feel the same. I thought her content was fine for a while but her age is showing with the whole "look how crazy and zany I am guys!!!!!11!!1!1" arc that should have been wrapped up months ago.

>>10083784
>Calling yourself a schizo like you're some joker figure
Looks like someone forgot to take their meds.

>schizo thread
>leftie redditors rambling about genders and pronouns
checks out huh

>>10091813
At that point, do you even need to ask Anon? She's feeding incels lies so her numbers doesn't drop. Don't be one of them.

I don't watch any ENs anymore because their fans are annoying

>>10112099
>incels
Why do people keep using this word for this when incels are the ones who are likely to reject and not believe women anyway?

>>10108223
I don't like the other reply you got. More importantly you misunderstood what you quoted. You/One referring to a pet as an "it" doesn't make it neuter, it just means you do not know or don't care whether it is a he or a she. Me referring to "You/One" in the previous phrase does not require me to specify your perceived gender, and other languages have a way to to talk like that in the third person (German/Swedish "man", French "on" etc.) but only for general statements. Just because your language does not have an uncontroversial non-gendered way to talk about someone in the third person (the three options being they/them, or one for general statements) does not mean everyone has to make a statement about their perceived gender when speaking it.

>>10091505
Nothing to do with Coco. She wouldn't publicly respond in such a dramatic, angsty way over Coco's graduation.

>>10091929
>>10093132
qrd on this?

>>10112317
Felt most fitting, normal fans wouldn't care if she dated anyone and call them gachikoi or worse is too much. Also seen it used in w/o misogyny context more often.

Ame is a coal burner

>>10113402
Wouldn't nice guy be even more fitting? Those are the ones that support you and throw money at you until you say boyfriend, incels would call any chuuba a whore without watching them.

>>10112954
>holoEN gets an A-chan
>it's a chuuni angel
>says on social media that people can use whatever pronouns they want to refer to them
>gibsooba skiboppi sobaba blim-blop*
>trans
*This represents the psychosis of the conservative brain

>>10111989
Yup

>>10114079
ah, a nothingburger then, thanks

>>10112317
>when incels are the ones who are likely to reject and not believe women anyway?
This is your brain on tranny politics.

>>10114079
>>10114135
You will never be a woman

>>10114222
i don't want to anyway lol, i'm fine how i am, nice projection you doing here

>>10114291
Either way take your liberal politics and fuck off back to /reddit/ nigger

>>10114366
>liberal
Ngmi.

>>10114366
i've never talked about politics, i don't care about politics too, i'm not american, i come here to talk about chuubas, (you) go back to r*ddit, election tourist

>>10114466
>>10114471

The absolute state of this thread after 50-70 posts
It started with someone discussing the pronouns of Kronii's roommate, and then it devolved into gender politics. The result? Both sides of /pol/ and also /reddit/ arguing with each other about trannies
ENfags are NGMI

>>10114574

>>10114574
>I hate SJWs
N/A: they don't exist

>This entire thread
Ngmi

>>10114611
/pol/ loves the JP girls

Because of the rrats plaguing this place, Cover's silence and poor handling of problems I can't enjoy any of the Hololive streams anymore without constant gnawing in the back of my mind, that they are working for shit company. On the other hand thanks to that, I have found my indie oshi, streaming in times convinient for me and with way healthier entertainer - fan realitionship befitting normie like me.

>>10109355
Opposite for me, I used to be socialist until around 2014.

>>10114767
My condolences for your 2014 head injury.

>>10114803
Yeah crazy, hurt my head and my life got better.

>>10114803

>>10078178
I dropped Haato after she changed to Haachama. Seeing someone I used to admire pretend to be a drooling retard who repeats her name like a pokemon was too much for me. I'm happy she's found success but my respect for her plummeted like a rock.

>>10114881
>used to be a socialist
>got better
You became a communist, then. Nice.

>>10114767
>>10114881
Based

>>10114030
Actually, yes. I didn't think of that. Thanks Anon.

>>10114910
They absolutely can, especially when those countries operate on outdated frameworks that re-enforce the worst aspects of humanity.

>>10078178
I don't think it's schizo, but I dropped Ame after a while mainly for game choice. Not to mention almost every week like clockwork a stream or 2 would be cancelled or moved to 1am or some shit.

I got distracted and didn't even say that I dropped Kanata after her singing ability decreased.
I don't dislike her, it's just too sad.

>>10115038
Eat a bullet kike

>>10086282
>>10094289

Welp, consider Kronii Dropped

>>10097788
>>10089009
Reps.

Dropped Subaru because she said Roberu's fans would get mad if he collabed with women

>>10115628
Wait source? This statement is so infuriating it kinda makes me want to drop Subaru despite loving SENPAITACHI & SMOK so much. Like Roberu fucking collabs with women like every other day.

>>10115668
F(ubuki) A(yame) M(io) S(ubaru) * forgot it gets autocorrected to senpaitachi

>>10115575
Based

>>10115826

>>10115289
>Go commit die
>Also, Jew
--the right, attempting to make an argument

>>10115980
There was no argument. I'm telling you to kill yourself. I'd be willing to help if you want me to.

>>10115668
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUIWbs8uQaA&t=76
Convo was about Roberu and Onoyuu's radio.
I don't hate her at all, I just think it was a retarded statement to make on the same level of Trash Taste saying Kuzuha has 90% female watchers. I'll still watch her group stuff but it really annoyed me. If she wants more gachikoi and an excuse to not talk to men it's fine if that's what she wants to do but spreading misinformation on a fanbase with her large platform is bad IMO.

>>10116087
I heard the best version of this joke from Bo Burnham. In 2016.

>>10116274
I just give her the benefit of the doubt and think of it as a way to avoid him (which I'm totally fine with) but without triggering her gachis the slightest, but it's still kind of retarded to come with that excuse.

>>10116274
oh ok she's just being dumb not malicious. Nvm. i still support the duck

>>10079795
how dare you

>>10116625
Same, if she never wants to collab with them I'd never mind, there's no point in forcing collabs either I just got a little schizo over her saying something that isn't true

>>10078531
lmao what was this guy quoting

>>10115628
Base shubaru making roberu fags seethe

Omaru Porka's voice feels overweight.

>>10114917
She probably got raped in Australia for being a minority.

>>10114917
dear god I hope this doesn't happen to my Oshi. I would legit be heartbroken.

doesn't help that my oshi is Sana and she might actually change her entire personality to appeal to the lowest common denominator since she's struggling so much with numbers and debuffs. she's the only vtuber I can actually stand to watch everytime she streams

>>10084261
We are your family now.

I dropped Kiryu Coco after my japanese got better and I realized how terrible her japanese sounded.

>>10109097
Sounds like a lot of bullshit to me.
>I’m special I’m special I’m special trust me I’m special!
Btw “cis” isn’t a think. It’s just a way for mentally ill brainlets to cope and attempt to marginalize normal people.

>>10123612
thats her charm point to native japanese, you will never be jouzu

>>10123878
Kiara's japanese is more tolerable despite still sounding EOP

>>10078178
I 'dropped' Ollie because I found her fanbase intolerable and didn't like how she was pandering to them. That quickly grew into me disliking her for a variety of different reasons that had nothing to do with her fans and was completely unrelated. My hate for her was completely illogical, but its like my brain was trying to justify the weird feelings I had about her, despite the fact I did still like her.

I have only just recently started tuning back into her streams.

>>10116274
why do you guys think faggots are relevant

>>10124539
>because I found her fanbase intolerable
you can't blame her for being indonesian

>>10124539
i'm schizo about my dislike towards her. she doesn't feel like an idol, and her constant talking to ecelebs pisses me off.

no i've never watched a stream of hers before, I just saw her retarded twitter posts on my TL so much that I grew a hatred for her, and I ended up muting/blocking her. Just the sight of her makes me cringe. She should've just been a normal streamer or join vshoujo if she wanted to get some eceleb clout

>>10124717
I'm not delusional and won't say they're popular at all and neither am I a collab beggar, I just hate when people spread misinformation.

>>10124539
I just wish she didn't decide to make her shtick ear-rape. I have bad ears and it hurts,

>>10124773
So they have no female fans? Because she doesn't say anything like 'they exclusively have female fans'

>>10125011
No, it's a stupid statement because Holostars members like Roberu collab with women just fine all the time. Astel has also collabed with Hololive members and other women just fine (though this is a more recent development). She's not necessarily wrong in a general abstract sense perhaps, but there's nothing that will make female Holostar fans suddenly riot over Holostars collabing with Hololive. It's more she's being stupid by applying logic she implicitly holds about her male fans to Holostars female fans and expecting it to hold 1-1 for every Holostar member.

>>10123451
I pray no one else has to endure what I went through.
>spoiler
I heard that in her SOMA stream Sana said that numbers don't really matter so I doubt she'll change herself anytime soon. I think you're good bro.

>>10125011
She just said his fans would be upset if he collabs with her and be jealous since she's a girl, when all he fucking does is collab with either Holostars, or women (or Tenkai)
Are there female fans who'd get mad? Yes, but they're irrelevant, and Roberu reportedly has the largest ratio of male watchers (80%) probably due to his morning zatsus, lack of gaybait unless he's on Shien's channel, and oneeshota fetish.

>>10125168
>>10125461
They are different calibre of girl.
Collabing with literal who females is like nerd girls in a high school, collab with hololive girl is like a supermodel.

>>10084261
I could understand her getting upset over that, the earth quake was bad but not catastrophic, so someone during that time dying just hurts

>>10125550
...but Roberu collabed with all of VOMS, Tamaki, Fubuki, Matsuri, is Animare's collective sex slave, I swear if female viewers are angry about being cucked Haneru would've been harassed to death by now. Subaru's also collabed with males before so it's not like he's deflowering some pure idol. There would be literally no problem.

>>10125726
you're looking at it from a male perspective. It's not a problem for a guy to have females after him, it's a problem when the female is superior to them.

>>10125850
Rikka collabed with Ueda Kana (the VA of Tohsaka Rin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRtWtTrEDEY)), who far out-ranks the Hololive girls in terms of status. There was no problems. At least by this logic, Rikka should be safe to collab with.

>>10126227
literally unbreedable woman

>>10126389
astel can collab with Subaru's same 2nd gen member Choco-sensei just fine, but of course if it was Subaru issues would magically happen. Subaru's just a comedian who sometimes mistakenly thinks herself the same as a GFE vtuber. If it was a proper GFE vtuber like Lamy, Rushia, or Korone I could understand maybe their logic. Subaru's just dumb/informed or a coward. I choose to believe she's stupid.

>>10126654
subaru's a boy so there's no problem

>>10126654
Dude it was obviously an excuse. The fanbase don't want to hear about holostar bullshit.
It was a good excuse though.
Astel is a little fairy boy.

>>10124762
vtubers are by definition, e-celebs.

>>10119648
That's what I want to know.

>>10119648
Gura clip with a very loud jumpscare at the end.