/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>10624256
Oof straight for the heart

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

Ame was sitting around 13k then went up to 19k when Gura and Kronii join vc. The incline from blue chuubas

>>10625313
20k now

>>10625313
What IS the best color? I guess Blue has Gura and Pekora so they win by default. Suisei pulls her weight too and Kronii is strong for her generation.

>>10626444
ORANGE WOMAN!!!

>>10626533
Now see, Orange woman has the big honka badonka numbers, but she shares colors with Kiara which is probably negative points.
Nene is there too, but she is fine.

>>10626444
I've noticed a lot of the top performers feature blue or purple in their designs.

>>10624256

20K Amelia Collab vs 2k Rosemi Collab

Niji's fan lost again this battle

>>10626801
Oh god the rabbit beat the turtle? Who saw this coming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVItBIkQPGQ
Predictions? I'll put the Over/Under on 70k

>>10626988
Are you the same anon yesterday? Those are literally the same numbers.
I'll give it a 50k myself.

>>10626988
I'm going to say 40-45k.

Ina has joined the Minecraft server.

>>10626801
>Niji's fan lost again this battle
Fauna got more reading SCs.
Why do you retards keep doing this stupid comparison?

>>10626988
70k+.
Pmaru-sama is actually mainstream in Japan + everyone knows she's Kaguya Luna.

>>10626614
Orange chuubas are money makers with SC

>>10627330
Fauna's joined too, how high can the numbers get?

>>10627280
Yeah. It will be in 5 hours, so i want to see some predictions

>>10626988
Is she even a vtuber?

So, someone asked what Cover can do with the $15M profit, could they develop a game that is on the level of genshin with that money? If not, a normal adventure gacha game like Arknights or Azure lane would do. They just need to hire developers for those.

>>10629348
>develop a game that is on the level of genshin with that money?
>The high profits are not however without huge costs. Based on a company presentation form miHoYo president Cai Haoyu, translated by Twitter user AeEntropy, Genshin Impact cost US $100million to make but continued development costs are expected to be around US $200million every year.
lol.

https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/genshin-impact-has-made-1-billion-in-mobile-revenue-2907230

>>10629843
kek that's a lot. How did they even get $100M with Honkai Impact.

So, arknights/mobile games tier?

>>10627570
Yea, it seems like orange color brings the hardcore while blue color brings the crowd.

>>10629996
Did Youtube know? is that why they made the low chats blue and the big ones red and orange? do I really need to take these meds?

>>10629982
It's probably more worth it to spend that money on things directly related to vtubers (better content, merch, 3D software...etc)
A game can flop and they'll waste all that money. Hololive isn't at "too big to fail" level yet.

>>10629982
They've earned 600m+ in revenue off of Honkai according to Wikipedia, so...
>>10630191
Indeed. If they want another game appearance perhaps another collab with some other mobile games, but getting their merch situation sorted out for overseas fans is probably more of a priority.

>>10630142
No, color psychology is a thing.

>>10629672
>>10629982
>$15 million US dorra
>worth anything to anyone but a small corporation (10 employees or less)
Even if it were a gacha, it wouldn't get them through to the full production phase of development, and that's with out counting their current expenses. It is not a viable endeavor at all. If they want to make a game that won't obviously be literal cash grab garbage, they would need an initial budget of about $25M at the barest of minimums, and the costs grow sharply from there.

>>10629996
>>10630142
There are a few outliers of course. Blue in particular has Lamy.
Wish I knew anything about other agencies for more points.

first time i seegura with only 10k a week on holostats then again has been a slow week for vtubing in general outside some collabs.

>>10633264
Yeah, she's plateaued this week which is unusual for her, then again school did just start up again so maybe it's part of it.
Of course now that I've pointed it out I expect there to be fifteen "Gura is reclining" bait threads in the catalogue by the time work is out.

>>10633661
Gura is reclining in her Herman Miller to help with her back.

>>10633661
Well, she already pushed the limit this high, it's really not surprising that she hits the roof before any other members, plus the long void on her channel during mid September seems hurts her growth a lot.

>>10633830
She will climb again with the new outfit and all the new jp interaction. But yes Gura sparce schedule was alwasy been her weakness but also is more healthy in my opinion.

September numbers

Holo Myth

>Gura 23,657 / 17,882 (+5,775)
>Ina 10,784 / 11,984 (-1,200)
>Mori 9,084 / 7,283 (+1,801)
>Kiara 7,757 / 6,228 (+1,529)
>Ame 6,503 / 8,813 (-2,310)

Holo Hope

>IRyS 8,424 / 8,175 (+249)

Holo Council post debut month

>Mumei 10,622
>Fauna 9,755
>Kronii 9,694
>Baelz 6,198
>Sana 5,190

even if Kiara gets 3k less later the median would be still 7k flat.
Pretty much a good month for HoloEN.

>>10634101
SUGOI

>>10634101
Great numbers and even Sana numbers impressed me there

>>10634101
>Gura - Lots of MC, not a lot of debuff stuff like Super Metroid. Lower amount of streams due to convention stuffs
>Ina - Bastion, Ender lilies streams, balanced by MC, also some Council overlap
>Mori - Good numbers from MC.
>Kiara - Collabs, MC, balanced by debuffs in Skyward sword and the Tales streams after the first two.
>Ame - lots of debuff stuff such as watchalongs and SC readings, not a lot to balance it out due to taking time off for health reasons. Anniversary stream as the highlight of the month

Council
>Mumei - Consistent numbers, MC, passpartout.
>Fauna - streaming earlier hours with minimal competition has let her net solid numbers
>Kronii - Lots of highs, some lower numbers from Hollow Knight, spends way too many hours in MC off stream, could net much better numbers if she was willing to stream those, but it's much less mentally taxing to not have to set up the streams and instead just chill in discord.
>Baelz - lots of streams playing Bayonetta 2 (rip numbers) balanced by streaming Minecraft. Has chosen hard mode and streams during Peak JP hours as a bilingual chubba
>Sana - slow start with lots of kusoge and indie stuff that gets mediocre numbers (for Hololive). Will see how her game choices affect numbers going forward, but her Celeste playthrough shows she's not a quitter and is decently skilled.

>>10634671
I don't think streaming MC for 3 times count as many for Gura, but she did play a lot this month with other members and that also gives other people's number a push.

>>10635048
Wait, did she really only play on stream 3 times this month?
Huh. 4 times, but she did show up quite a bit in other people's streams yea. That mustve been why it felt like more.
Only 14 streams on her channel for September , though there were some collabs on other channels.

>>10635630
This month all the girls from all branches ramped up on the collabs, including single POV.
It’s an interesting thing, I wonder if they received some encouragement to do that.

Even Haachama and Ayame, along with Gura, started showing up more for the other girls

Pochi-sensei got decent numbers for her reveal. With that said I can only wonder how huge her numbers would be if she just made her character an expy of Mamako

Here is the numbers while nothing is on screen.

>>10635806
Sorry, context, PMaru 3d debut.
Audio just turned on.

>>10635794
Mamako, for reference. This, incidentally, is what people expected Reine to be, the childish MILF personality

>>10635806
Based on opening numbers: 50-60k?

>>10635630
>>10635864
It is ramping, 70k anon might be right actually. 26k now.

>>10635841
She probably can't handle acting out mamako. She is a cinnamon roll, and the cutest of the cute.

Did Hololive finally get little nightmares permissions?

>Bandai Namco
Please Bandai... Dark souls...

>>10635884
YouTube “spam viewer” bot releases a batch of 1k ccv / minute until it reaches the actual opening number. Then it shifts to 500 ccv / minute until it clears the queue. Check if she’s over 50k when half hour passes, if she is and até I’ll growing it may hit 70k or even 100k depending on the growth.

But if it stalls before, 1k / min would be the max growth from then on

>>10635922
Bandai is knee deep in the Holo hole, whatever permission they didn’t give is likely because they have partners to deal with

>>10635922
Lol, thought duck and Peko are having a race, it looks like they just decided to immediately schedule Little Nightmares today. Looks like new perms.

>>10635958
Pekora talked about this before, she said that she has a new game she's planning to play but didn't release any details.

>>10635922
nijis already played this kusoge last year.........wtf

20 minutes in
Nothing is happening on screen though.
PMaru come on.

>>10635958
Sugoi...
It's time, here comes Little Nightmares arc, just in time for Halloween...
Prepare for 15+ Holos to play it.
>>10635942
Thus is smart numberfagging though, start up the stream before the actual event starts to get the fucking CCV fuckery out of the way, and also get notifications and randos getting recommended the stream to come in.

>>10626533
THIS,
After all the best recent USA president also orange.

>>10635958
4 people is playing the game today. Pekora, Subaru, Flare and Fubuki.

Other than that, Fubuki announcement + Mori OG song not scheduled yet + Coco free chat ending. Packed stuff.

>>10636035
Last day of the month too, Pekora may stretch her stream as wide as she can because she’s clearly angling for watched hours this month

https://mobile.twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1443509896062799875

Post was recent too. But still Bandai, let them play dark souls...

>>10636032
54k. This doesn’t count as a vtuber tho, right?

>>10636035
Gonna guess it's probably music or merch announcement.
Don't really see Cover doing anything for Coco's free chat ending.

>>10627280
Well there goes my prediction. 62k and nothing is happening. Sasuga.

>>10636032
Ahahahahahaha...
Fucking YouTube, as soon as it switched off from the blank screen and the music changed, jumps up 14k+ viewers. Fuck everything about this goddamn ccv fuckery.

Face is a bit stiff and eyes are really big for her. A bit uncanny but I am not sure why.

Oh boy, Pekora and Subaru gonna go head to head on the same game at the same time. Any chances you think one is gonna move theirs? Also the rabbit probably wins but wonder how much they'll be hurting each other.

>>10627490
>80k already
I love the dopamine rush when I get a prediction right lol

>>10636091
>>10635922
Bandai has nothing to do with perms for souls series. It's Fromsoft that holds back perms.
Similar to how Sega has nothing to do with Atlus perms.

>>10636135
They've played against each other on FFX7 and FFX7R in the afternoon. They'll be fine.

Just learn about this vtuber but what is her usual content? is she from a company?

>>10636093
Not yet, no. But a full 3d live? Well, 80k+ for one of the old guard in the year 2021. Who woulda fucking thought.

>>10636135
They did the same with FF. It’s no big deal, people don’t watch either for the game but for the streamer.

Pekora floor is 22k, Subaru floor is 15k.

>>10636135
Shuba numbers are pretty stable so she should get at least 14k. Pekora is, hmmm, 35k? Not familiar with her numbers.
>>10636163
She is a relic of vtuber past. She mostly does songs now. Indie I believe, but really popular one in Japan.

>>10636153
Then how the hell does Niji have those permissions?

>>10636163
She's an utaite + used to be one of the biggest vtubers.

>>10636163
Anon...your chubba history reps...
This is the former Kaguya Luna.

>>10636163
PMaru? She’s Kaguya Luna, except unshackled

Who will win? A collab between the 1st and 3rd most subbed Hololive Vtubers and 2 of the most popular members of their 2nd EN Generation
Or
The 3d debut of a literal who?

The answer will frustrate, anger, make you cope and castrate yourself!!

>>10636165
>Well, 80k+ for one of the old guard in the year 2021. Who woulda fucking thought.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V9952osjnc
Her original song has 47 mil views in 6 months anon. Just have a look at her average video views.
Pmaru is basically a mainstream JP content creator.

>ongoing streams, unfiltered
How do we save FPS, lads?

Wonder if she plans on doing more lives like this. She does skits and whatnot but that is a full ass model, might as well.
>94817
we might be getting 110k. She is definitely singing Sil Vou's President.

its gonna reach 100k, i kneel...

>>10626988
Wouldn't it be funny if Sony tries to poach her?

>97k
Only one guy have the money for aka supa

>>10636264
>Sony tries to poach her
>Sony
Anon...

>>10636223
Too much unnecessary words made the bait too boring. Try again Nijinigger

>>10636264
She dropped being the 2nd biggest vtuber behind Kizuna AI years ago to go indie and became even more successful than ever before.
Why would she be remotely interested in going corporate again?

Seeing these numbers makes me wonder how it would be if Ai decides to reincarnate or if changing to another company would do something.

>>10636275
LMAO

>>10636252
kek, it bounced right on 99k

>>10636316
She needs to start singing lol. I am tabbed out currently and probably doesn't count.

>>10636307
Just compare the average VOD view from Pmaru and Kizuna AI.
They're not even in the same ball park in popularity anymore. She's much more popular now than when she was Kaguya Luna.

>>10636337
She bounced down hard after showing the 3D model. Maybe she can get to 100k but I’m not sure.
Interesting tactics to, to beat the “spam viewer” bot.
>start the stream outright instead of letting it scheduled and “waiting for”
>let it simmer for some 15m

>>10636223
>literal who
>2 million subs and formerly 1m as Luna
>most popular song has 47m views (significantly more than any vtuber song)
I know the point of these is being retarded but please, this one is too much

seems like an awfully low number of superchats for a 3d debut though

>>10636390
She's just a normal utaite.

>>10636390
She doesn't have gachis because she is not a streamer.

>>10636307
The thing is Pmaru has always been popular that's why she got scouted to become Kaguya. AI is AI

>>10636390
This probably her first stream. Her short videos, singles, and albums are making banks tho>>10636415

Huh looks like it is stuck at just below 100k.
Wonder what she needs to do to break through.

>>10636464
Cil vous president.

>>10636464
Sil'vous president lol

>>10636415
Does she count as a vtuber? Because her activities feels like what Kizuna Ai does most of the time, but rarely people talks about her in vtuber category (but still mentions her left and right).

>>10636555
She would count right at this moment because this is her 3d debut.

Huh early merch thingie, interesting.

>>10636429
So it's kinda like Gura before Gura getting picked for HoloEn then? Lots of short vids that did really well on YT, becomes a chubba...

>>10636555
She never had a model until now, she's just a Youtuber rather than a "virtual" one

>>10636555
>Does she count as a vtuber?
>Because her activities feels like what Kizuna Ai does most of the time
>Kizuna Ai
>Vtuber
Anon...

>>10636580
Kinda like sen if she was more consistent, dedicated, clear goal, AND creativity to keep it going strong for 5years

she has 1.2billion views.. triple kizuna's main channel

almost 100K for a non-streamer is pretty good

>>10636641
Again, giant utaite.

>>10636578
I would wait a few weeks before calling anyone using a model a “vtuber” after Pokimane and Pewds (and later Hikakin) pulled that stunt

Sony really dropped the ball with Kaguya Luna

>>10636555
Would you say Nayuta is a vtuber?

>>10636675
While that is true, this particular one tends to get the pass because they were and have been a vtuber.
Think of it as a corpo reviving into an indie and having a model prepared for their resurgence concert.

>>10636685
For a brief period Luna was even more popular than Kizuna.

>>10636675
The difference would be Kaguya Luna is vtubing royalty and not some trendchaser.
Obviously her current content isn't really vtubing content so she wouldn't count normally, but if she does streams with her model or highlight videos with a live2d/3d model, then maybe.

>>10636675
Yea. If this is something she pulls out for events primarily and whatnot, she's still just an utatite. I say that as if she's not one of the biggest, but yea.
>>10636264
Funny Joke Anon, here's a (you).

>>10636701
Even then she’s only a vtuber if she actually vtubes. Having a model but not streaming with it is what many did lately

>>10636693
Utaite/vsinger.

>>10636743
We'll see if she would count in the future. For now, we can numberfag her because it's been a while.

>>10636732
>Sodapoppin streams as a Vtuber for a week
>is instantly considered a Vtuber
>literal Vtuber royalty gets a 3D model for her roommate account
>n-no doesn't count because I say so
Holocope on maximum overdrive right now, they can't accept an indie is getting better numbers than their whores

>>10636762
She will be "convert" at most like Hikakin.

I feel dumb right now realizing Pmaru is earlier than Kaguya....thanks for the replies and info guys.

>>10636701
>>10636743
>>10636762
So she's gonna on the /#/ daily chart or not?

>>10636766
>is instantly considered a Vtuber
kek, only by that one retard trying to “own the holowhores”, which I assume to be (you)

>>10636312
>>10636331
>>10636340
I fucking hate this board sometimes

>>10636795
With how things are normally marked, is say no, but somehow it would also feel right to include her with an asterisk.

>>10636795
Well, she doesn't stream so not on the ccvs. That will mess with song charts though. Eh whatever, I'll let someone else think about it.

>>10636093
Who is this?? Is she an Indie??
I'm not shitposting, i just really don't know her and i'm kinda amazed she gets these numbers

>>10636795
I would say not on today’s for the same reason Hikakin wasn’t when he debuted his model, or when he collabed with vtubers.
If she consistently streams with it, why not then?

>>10636838
Read up anon, people discussed it extensively in this very thread

>>10636838
The #2 vtuber during the AI era, Kaguya Luna.

>>10636838
She's Kaguya Luna's original channel after Sony dropped the fucking ball with her.

>>10636838
Read the thread before posting

I... don't know what just got announed but it's on December?

>>10636766
>Who considered soda vtuber LMAO
Delusional retard trying to bait drama go to your dead thread nijinigger, oh you dont have one?

We can compare "convert" only, so she will be compared against Hikakin and mafumafu

did it touch 100k? i saw 99,800

>>10636898
Doesn't matter now anon. She's going there.

>>10636898
It did now

>>10636910
Yep, done and done.

100k with Sil' Vous President

>>10636910
Can it reach 110k?

There we fahkin go

Miko is still playing Undertale so that's the Top3 at the same time plus a bunch of other holos also starting.
I predict
Pekora (might struggle to get past 30k)
Subaru (might struggle to get past 20k)

>>10636921
Was saving this for that exact moment
>PMaru, I DOUBLE kneel!

>>10636926
ehhh iffy

Holoshit absolutely mogged. This is the power of a real entertainer. Just a little more and it will beat all their 3D debut numbers.

Here is what I got right at the end of that song.
Pretty good. Nice numbers PMaru-sama!

>>10636931
Little Nightmare numbers aren't that impressive from vtubers who have streamed it so that sounds about right.

nijichads 10k+ arena
pmaru 10k+ arena
holoshit? 2k zepp trash LMAOOOOO

>>10636898
>>10636921
>>10636925
>>10636929
She's still this powerful, the new era commeth

coco's freechat has 5.5k right now, looks like it'll get pretty good numbers by midnight jst

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-p3NdVyliw&ab_channel=PLAYBOARD
You guys need to take a look at this !

Final numbers: 104k

>Look at catalog
>Shitters use Pmaru as bait post
>Look at here
>Same thing happens
It's sad for Pmaru fans or even any vtuber fans who have big numbers because shitposter will use them as shitposting material

>>10636967
Nice try false flagger-kun, very good numbers but still behind all of PPTrio

>>10637077
That’s just putting a live screen capture on what, hololyzer?

>>10637101
pls include her in the chart

>>10636743
>streaming
Anon... streaming was never a must for a vtuber. Her meta is the OG vtubing meta

>>10637109
>Look at here
>Same thing happens
Not really, very decent discussing except for one (1) retard that might the one breaking containment too

>>10637109
Only need Gura's or Mori's 3D debut numbers to shut everyone up, but that's still a long way to go

>>10637152
Can’t be in the CCV chart if she doesn’t stream, no?

>>10637050
Is this the new era she promised?

>>10637174
CCV wasn't really part of her era. That is fine, she'll pop up in other metrics.

>>10637077
Finally restarted.
It was down for like a day.

>>10637109
Eventually it wears you out until you realize that the answer is to just filter the shitposts out and ignore them. None of these posts matter in the long run so it's not worth caring about.
In my head, these /#/ threads are better than they actually are since my brain just filters out the garbage now.

>>10637174
Fair enough. But we could include her in VOD category for non-streaming vidyas

>>10637039
Because in JP holo is not that popular. They know such audience is out of their reach.

>>10637123
It's behind only the ones that were pre-CCV cut conveniently. I'll be watching the VOD number instead. She'll definitely mog every sinlge holoshit thot in that area like Fuwa did.

Shirakami Fubuki going to announce something in about 5 min, prediction?
https://youtu.be/dH5ruGNPJiQ

>>10637260
Hopefully not graduation.
But at least that would get some numbers?
Heh.... heh.

>>10637260
unless is graduation
10k max

>>10637244
>could include her in VOD category for non-streaming vidyas
Tallying by hand is already a bitch with live-ranking missing streams left and right. I can only imagine the pain it would be to hand tally VOD views, specially considering it’s not one and one but continuously adding them.

>>10637275
It's something positive, but mostly affects memebers is something she tweeted out earlier. doomposting faggots were in her general.
Also, what exactly was that annoucment in Pmaru's live, was it a concert in December? Which venue?

>>10637260
People somehow already guessed what the announcement is, but might still be there for the surprise.

>Samefaging and Falseflag
This is sad

>>10637200
Yeh, her VOD is like Gura's sub tier
TOO powerful for other vtubers.

>>10637307
Concert this December. Didn't see a day but this is the venue: 両国国技館.
10k seating.

Can't believe i missed all the Pmaru stuff.
There weren't even that many other vtubers streaming, despite prime time coming up. They were probably watching too,

Caught Matsuri's song premiere though,
pretty average numbers for her these days and she's still getting some dislikes early on.

>>10637307
Ok that is reassuring then.

>>10637342
meanwhile holofes
>toyosu pit, 3k capacity
kusa

>>10637342
Its 5k at best like virtual to life

>>10637333
2-3 minutes vids againts 4-5 hours stream anon....

>>10637109
Nijiniggers and Holobronies get no mercy

20k for Fubuki's shitpost. Sasuguh.

>>10637480
She's not a streamer,of course it is just a reference...but you can still compare song VOD

>>10637438
Are you really using early 2020 Hololive for comparison?

>>10637545
They fear that it not a shitpost

ITT: SEAniggers who didnt even know who KL was using her for shitposts

>>10637576
I do too. I am still afraid desu.

Miko 25k now.

>>10637576
Coco and Haachama really ruined evey announcement stream huh.

>>10637522
Shitposter is a true Unityfag

can fbk stall it enough to beat Uno?

25k for miko and fbk
strong showing
but also little overlap and no ppopular niji streaming.

28k on Fubuki's Announcement
Damn just tell us already Fubuki, i'm so nervous

>>10637438
As long as the seats are sold out, it means success for every concert. When covid ends, cover has to reserve a stadium or of similar capacity for holofest

>>10637286
Look at this guy
Look at him and laugh

32k and climbing

>>10637576
Coco gave the entire community PTSD

>>10637662
Mito... she they did pass 10k already, so will make the day end list.

>>10637671
Not a good idea to reserve huge venues when Japan is declaring a state of emergency every 2 months.

>37k shitpost
How high can it be?

>>10637733
The fear was there for a long ass time.

>>10637660
yes

My fucking heart stopped when she faked cry

Fbk talking bs and getting numbers smart fox.

>>10637662
>and no ppopular niji streaming
M-Mito… :(

There it goes.
NOW She's gonna announce her graduation.

>40k
Jesus christ

>>10637757
peaked 41k

This is the peak I think

Btw, did people not know?

>Birthday: 5 October

Baiting the masses then announcing a 3D event. Now that's how you do an announcement.

>ongoing streams, unfiltered

>>10637773
Yea, the fact that Hololive had dodged the bullet of any of the existing chubbas graduating for so long was honest-to-gods a minor miracle.
Also, 3d live on YouTube confirmed for the 5th at 9pm JST.

first coco... now fubuki...

>>10637813
Yep that should be it.

MOGGED
O
G
G
E
D

>>10637813
41095 by Holostats

>>10637783
>>10637748
i actually didnt see her
still her shitpost videos should be popular enough to compete

>>10637438
>>10637569
holy cope

Will miko reach 30k today? She's already 27k +

>>10637853
Wait for Moona 3D

>>10637853
Damn I freaking kneel

>>10637853
>2M subs utaite vs. 500k subs chuubas
If I didn’t like Kaguya so much I would be withdrawing my kneeling

Holy shit the view drop fast as fuck after she drop the 3D. People just be there because of fear don't they?

>>10637821
People knew, won't stop them from doomposting.
>>10637829
Despite the incompetence, they are not that bad then. Coco's situation was unique because of chinks.

dont reply to bait, retards

>>10637886
Probably, since a lot of people are moving over from Fubuki, till the other streams start at :30

>>10637936
Yes. I now have PTSD

>>10637941
What if he just replied to his own post though?

>>10637964
kek, true

>>10637926
For precaution, maybe someone will post Fuwa's 3D

>>10637936
First time watching an announcement stream?

>>10637853
let me channel dead subs anon
>2m+ subs and only 5-10k more ccv
>dead subs, what a failure

>>10637941
>>10637964
he might have. Posters didn't increase

>>10637941
>>10637964
>>10637976
All me btw

>>10637976
Stop reply to yourself

>JP primetime
also
>SEA primetime
also
>Americans are waking up

So, which one is the culprit?

>>10637964
yabe, i thought schizo anon is just a meme

Miko is such a shameless whore. Failing against Sam on purpose to try to replicate the Kanata numbers and still can't get past 30k.

>>10638026
Don’t forget the down under blokes

>>10637342
It's the same place niji had concert at 2 years ago

>>10638059
She’s going for “hours watched”, not peak

>>10638061
>SEA primetime
I didn't forget

>>10637853
Shut the fuck up nijiniggers

>>10637576
People need to learn that 重大発表 almost never gets used for negative announcements. 大切なお知らせ is much more possible.

>>10638120
Marine...

>>10637937
The day of the bug spray can't come soon enough

number of attempts on Miko undertale? and kanatas number?

>>10638120
>not a 3D debut vs 3D debut
Damn, you sure showed them

>>10638130
No that's bullshit and hopium, there's no functional difference between the two terms, it just so happens that Coco used the later for her graduation announcement

>>10627570
overturning numbers with big donations is based

>>10638174
>Not a 3D debut beats a 3D debut

>>10638174
Yea, it's incredible for a birthday 3D live to beat a 3D debut.

>>10634101
Pretty good numbers, but when you take anniversary and frequent mc collabs with a new wave into consideration, it becomes apparent that they are not doing so well as it may seem.
I bet that Vshojo will overtake them in average/median viewers by November-December this year.

>>10638207
With tons of guests and the entire company box pushing it

>>10637937
True. Cover and Anykara are the most decent chuuba corpo out there. Good environment to grow + good/fair benefits for the talent.

>>10638174
It's actually more impressive

>This much hype for utaites
How popular would REOL be as a vtuber?

>>10638120
>replying
Fuck off, now he's gonna post fuwa 3D and the shitposting continues with Gura costume, and then we got another Nijibaseball image THEN Coco graduation. Are you the shitposter accomplice or him with his phone?

>>10638241
ILLEGAL VIEW FUNNELING!

>>10638216
It was a 3D birthday debut today.

>>10638241
are you serious or just trying to act retarded

>>10638261
>How popular would REOL be as a vtuber?
Less than her singer self. Hell, less popular than her NND utaite self

>>10638264
It's probably the same shitposters that reply to each other, hoping that the rest of us play among with this tired old farce...

>>10638264
>>10637964

>>10638264
>>10638308
SHUSH! You’re spoiling the ending for the newfags

>>10638238
>you take anniversary and frequent mc collabs with a new wave into consideration
That's not how median works.
Anniversary is only 1-2 streams. Minecraft collabs will continue to happen in the future.

>I bet that Vshojo will overtake them in average/median viewers by November-December this year.
Who in Vshojo do you have in mind will take over who in HoloEN?
Avg CCV for Sept:
Nyanners: 7249
Veibae: 6852
Ironmouse:7541

>>10638194
Columns - amount of announcements/amount of sad announcements among them/percentage of sad announcements

>>10638261
I'm still waiting for the day Hanatan become a vtuber. Anyway Kamitsubaki's and Hachi's number is pretty good I think.

>>10638402
>Nyanners: 7249
>Veibae: 6852
>Ironmouse:7541
And across the board recline. I assume they had some buff in August because both iron and nyanners were over 8k

>>10638481
Didnt they had their new 3d models that were ass?

>>10638499
I’ll assume it was the grand tour of off company collabs they had in the second semester: Holo, NijiEN, VOMS, plus the Iron-Connor thing

>>10638499
They all get it from the same guy don’t they, even Nimu got the same modeler. Makes it look like she’s got a huge fucking chin.

>>10638481
Also, it was summer.
Wasn't Twitch generally higher viewed during summer?

>stacked couple of slots
Also: Subaru and Pekora 100% trust there is no overlap between their audiences

>>10638444
Past performance is no guarantee of future results, though I do appreciate you backing up your argument with actual numbers.

>>10638481
>Have twitch raid
>Can't even break 10k
Vshojo is done

>>10638618
Anyone that uses 重大発表 to announce sad news is a huge fucking asshole

>>10638587
this is going to turn into a debuff game real quick

>>10638543
Artgun is the name you're looking for.

>I-Iofi…
This must be the worst thumb/title combo I ever saw. Even Kuzuha doesn’t steep this low in laziness

>>10638481
>I assume they had some buff in August
zoomer audience

>>10638623
To be fair, those are averages.
The highest peaks those 3 have EVER gotten on Twitch are:
Nyanners: 21,133
Ironmouse: 24,772
Veibae: 18,953

Compare those numbers to HoloEN's to see how delusional that anon was.

>>10638563
Yes it is, school started and with it went all the causal audiences who were only on twitch to kill time

>>10638402
>That's not how median works.
Yes, that's how it works. if you have more streams with higher viewers, it'll be higher.
>Anniversary is only 1-2 streams
Plus a decent boost for next couple of streams. Easily boosted their averages/medians with minimum 1k viewers. Most likely much more than that.
>Minecraft collabs will continue to happen in the future.
The biggest thing about these streams, is their novelty - collabs with fresh new wave. You can already notice that these streams started to get less and less viewers. If they continue doing it, they are risking turning MC from a buff game into a normal or even a debuff game.
>Who in Vshojo do you have in mind will take over who in HoloEN?
They are already comparable/not far from most HoloEN during HoloEN's boosted month. Now go and look at VShojo's averages/medians for other 2021 months and you'll see that unlike HoloEN, they are actually constantly growing. And now, the cherry on top - they're getting new chuubas pretty soon, which will definitely boost them.

>>10638715
She's always like that
>Doesn't consider overlaps
>Can't make interesting thumb for at least bait views

>>10634101
Very strong numbers
But I have to say Ame is a fucking retard
>Do movie watch-along twice a week
>Do superchat reading once a week
There are 1/3 of her streams are movie watching-along and superchat reading

>>10638779
Ame don't care about numbers

>>10638748
>they are actually constantly growing
They just reclined this month tho?

>>10638722
Weren’t Nyanners and Mousey peaks from Holo collabs?
Not sure about Veibae.

>>10638779
Yeah >>10638812
look at her current schedule, only 1 is considered a stream since she will do movie and members streams this week

>>10638748
Do nijiniggers always this delusional?
Do you actually check Holostats?

>>10638748
MC collabs are so comfy though.

>>10638748
>They are already comparable/not far from most HoloEN during HoloEN's boosted month.
Which month that would be?

>Now go and look at VShojo's averages/medians for other 2021 months and you'll see that unlike HoloEN, they are actually constantly growing.
Ironmouse: From 4K to 7k, and that’s the mean average.

That’s very good but far away from putting them anywhere near HoloEN top.

>>10638854
>for other 2021 months
>reclined this month tho
Bruh. Why are you so shortsighted? It's much more important how much they progressed in a long run than a fucking 1 month period. Chuubas can have a good months and bad months following each other, you can't track if they're reclining or inclining just based on 2 months.
VShojo progressed a fucking lot, compared to where they were a year ago. The same cannot be said about HoloEN chuubas.

>>10638748
>Streams started to get less and less viewers
t.thread only reader

Ame just got 20k today, retard

>>10638748
>Yes, that's how it works. if you have more streams with higher viewers, it'll be higher.
Amelia's 70k 3D stream and 15k anniversary were functionally cancelled out by 2 1k watchalongs. At most, it shifts the median by 1-2 streams.

>Plus a decent boost for next couple of streams. Easily boosted their averages/medians with minimum 1k viewers. Most likely much more than that.
Except it didn't, their regular streams got essentially the same numbers as the month before. They just had more appealing stream ideas and did less debuff game streams. Everyone in EN is playing a lot more minecraft so their general numbers got boosted too.

>You can already notice that these streams started to get less and less viewers.
At least check the numbers before sprouting shit like this. They got ~20k last night combined and got 20k tonight, which significantly less members in VC. The only night with abnormal numbers was the night where Gura had her POV as well.

>If they continue doing it, they are risking turning MC from a buff game into a normal or even a debuff game.
Kek. Every Holo in every branch has been buffed by minecraft for 1.5 years now. They'll graduate before MC becomes a debuff game.

>>10639022
Even Bae can get 20k with these impronptu collabs. It's not an achievement.

>>10638940
Since their nijishit can't beat Holos they tried VShojo but still fails
>>10638748
And now the girl who 104k is being used against holos as well.
Just accept it, Holos are dominating the numbers board and stop shitposting. Try to atleast used proper arguments

>>10638748
>>10638992
TOP KEK, here is Nyanners. Reclined all the way back to her March numbers
>you'll see that unlike HoloEN, they are actually constantly growing.

Growing backwards?

>>10638992
>Which month that would be?
Like 3-5 recent months. They are pretty close to HoloEN numbers. Or are you just so stupid to think that each HoloEN chuuba has Gura's numbers?
>That’s very good but far away from putting them anywhere near HoloEN top.
Not the point. The point was that they're indeed constantly growing. HoloEN, in contrary, is stagnating/reclining. This means that by November/December VShojo will most likely pass HoloEN.

>>10638992
>Only post ironmouse but not Nyanners
kek

>>10639104
See >>10639073
>>10639097
>they're indeed constantly growing.
If they’re constant growing how come Nyanners is reclining?

>>10639073
oops>>10639097
>>10639104

>>10639073
Nyanners is done for, Ironmouse is the new queen of Vshojo
>long may she reign!

>>10639097
>by November/December VShojo will most likely pass HoloEN.
By which metric? Average of whole branch? Median of whole branch?

>>10639073
>Mousey stealing views from Nyanners...

>>10639022
It was her first mc collab with new wave in discord, retard.

>>10639138
>>10639097
>>10639069
Are you guys actual Vshojo fans? Or just nijiniggers trying to use them to shit on holos because your nijishitters are getting dominated?

>>10639198
Holohaters or shitposters

>>10639069
Except for Nyanners and Ironmouse, 20k is higher than every Vshojo's highest peak ever.
If you're trying to make Vshojo sound impressive, that's not a number to downplay.

>>10639097
>Or are you just so stupid to think that each HoloEN chuuba has Gura's numbers?
You seem to be the one forgetting that there's 4 other members of Vshojo who don't come close to the top 3 in numbers.
>This means that by November/December VShojo will most likely pass HoloEN.
Glad to know that CCV just continues to grow endlessly once it starts.
Except it doesn't since >>10638992 and >>10639073 clearly show they hit a wall in May/June and have "stagnated/reclined" since.
Meanwhile, Gura increased her median by 5k this month. Does this mean she broke the cycle and is inclining???

>>10639198
They’re shitposters who will use anyone to shit on Hololive.
Highly doubt any actual vshojo fan would go outside their general.

>>10639178
>Seething already

>>10639198
Eh, in the end he'll pit holo against holo, its just that recliner gypsy anon but now using vsojo incline bullshit

>>10639034
>Amelia's 70k 3D stream and 15k anniversary were functionally cancelled out by 2 1k watchalongs. At most, it shifts the median by 1-2 streams.
Now THAT's exactly how median does NOT work. 2x1k watchalongs would not shift it below her previous median.
>Except it didn't
It did, anon, it did. You are retarded if you'll try to cope about "more appealing".
>They got ~20k last night combined and got 20k tonight, which significantly less members in VC
Already explained this to some other retarded anon - that was Ame's first VC collab with them.
>Every Holo in every branch has been buffed by minecraft for 1.5 years now.
They are the first one to abuse it this much. It won't become debuff game in gereral, it will become debuff game for HoloEN.

Guess Pekora isn't getting a 30k today as well. Subaru just had to stream at the same time/game and Miko is still hogging 26-28k views

>>10638992
>>10638748
Does shitposter not use nijien to shitpost anymore?

>>10639073
>Reclined in 3 months less then HoloEN declines in 1 months
>Haha, look at VShojo, they hit the wall, they are basically dead.

>Inclined during the whole year, whole HoloEN reclined
>T-that doesn't count, it's your cope

Ogey

>>10639405
Pekora median this month is around 30k meaning half her streams are below that number

>>10639409
Why use nijien, when vsojo beating holoen would be much more humiliating.

>>10639262
20k isn't Ame's or Bae's normal MC number. It's the result of having other people together in their streams.

>>10639445
>during the whole year
>Reclined in 3 months
Anon, you’re not even making sense. How can them have inclined during the whole year if she reclined for three months?

>>10639409
People still use them outside /#/ with chemistry metric

>>10639445
>ESL Lmao
I wonder why that guy still respond to this retard ESLcuck

>>10639459
Yeah but what i mean is Pekora usually gets more than 30k+ easy on a New Game.
Its just that Subaru is playing the same game at the same time and Miko suffering is getting a lot of attention

>>10639339
If Ame had 15 streams and 2 1k watchalongs, it doesn't matter if her 2 anniversary streams got 70k or 300k, her median would be her 7th highest stream.

>It did, anon, it did
Source: Trust me

The rest of your post is too fucking retarded to warrant a response.
Can't wait to see Vshojo get the same numbers they're getting now in Dec 2021 and see what your cope is then.
Wait, nvm. By then, you'll have another target to shitpost about.

>>10639488
ILLEGAL VIEW FUNNELING!

>>10639489
Anon, if you are that dense, take a calculator and sum up all those numbers. And you'll see whether they inclined or reclined.

>>10639468
Except VShojo won't beat HoloEN and NijiEN can't even be use as comparison since they'll look like a bunch of failures lmao

>>10639468
Why isn’t Vshojo beating NijiEN humiliating considering they are the 2nd biggest vtuber group after Hololive.

>>10639488
Who said it was a normal MC number?
The comment was about the irony of him downplaying 20k when trying to flex Vshojo's numbers.

Does VoD views contribute much to their revenues?

Miko just beat Sans, but oof bad luck for numbers since she "only" peaked at 31k due to how much competition there is right now amongst Holos.

>>10639626
Individually no, total they add a nice chunk of change.
Rough rate is around 1-4k per million views.

Is memberships the new superchat meta?

>>10639567
>>10639468
Wrong Move to mention NijiEN anon. Now they'll be included in the discussion and be exposed as bunch of failures compared to Holos & Vshojo

>>10639658
just hit 34k now

>>10639567
Beating a dead branch isn't that impressive anon chama

>>10639626
It can.
https://youtu.be/NLO5-IyS5pE

>>10639509
>The rest of your post is too fucking retarded to warrant a response.
Honestly, can say the same about your whole post.
>If Ame had 15 streams and 2 1k watchalongs, it doesn't matter if her 2 anniversary streams got 70k or 300k
You are talking like there were 10x1k watchalongs, not just 2. Looks like you need to do your reps on basic math.
>Can't wait to see Vshojo get the same numbers they're getting now in Dec 2021 and see what your cope is then.
Now that's the first sane thing coming from you. Let's just wait and see, can't wait that moment to have a good laugh at how foolish you are.

>>10639550
>>10639567
Don't worry anons, NijiEN will be the next one in line to mog holo. VShojo will rape HoloEN first and they NijiEN will rape their half-dead body.

Okay, since we're at bump limit, and China was brought up in last thread wrt clamping down, I present to you, this.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/24/investing/china-evergrande-group-debt-explainer-intl-hnk/index.html
One of China's big conglomerates is looking to be in some deep shit, and it's been on the downturn since the start of the year. Probably a hearld of things to come, so if you've got investments in anything China related, the best time to move them would've been at the start of Q2, but now isn't too late before shit really hits the fan.
Entertainment getting clamped down on as a way to control news and info most likely, and I don't see chubbas being spared the eventual restrictions.

>>10639567
Because both are based and they make holobronies seethe. Vshojo and Niji pals have no beef with each other.

>>10639811
Ogey

>>10639825
Both are garbage so they flock together?

>>10639825
Seethe? How? They’re literally under HoloEN in EVERY metric… It’s literally been months since people kept saying “NijiEN will mog HoloEN, just look at their 1k incline!” This shit has been repeated a lot and we’re here to discuss numbers and not midgets okay? Hololive, Kuzuha, Niji events, and the occasional indie streams.

Kuzunigger where are you? Save this thread with your numbers! too many imaginary post lately without you King

>>10639824
I wonder how long til they try to kill Vtubing in China. Sure there’s rules in place now but as long as they’re not enforced it doesn’t matter too much.

>>10639984
just like this

>>10639984
>Seethe? How?
>proceeds to seethe in his post
Holobronies have no self-awareness

>>10639073
The future of Vshojo sure looks bright.

>>10640024
It’s not seething when you’re tired of reading the same shit every thread. Dumbass ESL Nijinigger

>>10640041
Nijiniggers crying because a lot Holos getting 20k+ today and Nijiflops don’t have Kuzuha streaming. Seethe

Subaru and Kanata for tomorrow's Shinymas shilling. For comparison, Mito and ririmu got 10.3k.

>>10639770
>You are talking like there were 10x1k watchalongs, not just 2
She did 4 watchalongs and 2 SC reading streams this month out of 22 total streams so close enough.
Please explain how that doesn't affect median more than 2 anniversary streams.

>>10640041
>>10640024
Its just being annoyed from all your shitposting and delusions

>>10639626
I would say about $5k per million views when they are really long (+3h) and $3k to $4k when shorter than 3h

>>10639198
HAHAHAHA
Anon you honestly believed those were nijiniggers posting bait in here?

>>10640067
>>10640093
Keep seething holobronies lmao. Vshojo and Niji will continue to live in your heads rent free.

>>10639824
>implying there's people here who would invest there
But, if gamers aren't spared, then vtubers wouldn't either. Next thing we know is Asoul becomes a CCP puppet and bili2 is forced to dissolve VR or buy them from niji(?) but is it really worth it to keep 40+ VR chuubas? They don't have a Kuzuha or a Pekora and the branch relies too much on their JP main branch.

Its seems 38k is Miko's peak for this run.
She actually did a lot better than Kanata, i thought it'll take her 400+ tries considering how she struggled on Undyne

>>10640094
I would guess somewhere in the 30k range?

No significant number from niji today? that's probably why there's too much liter and seething

>>10640158
You never know, we've got unironic chink bugs and chink symphatizers around here

>>10640152
>Nijinigger having Holochads on their mind rent free
Ouch, sorry anon don’t cry

>they keep giving it (You)'s
Holobros, thanks for keeping the thread alive i guess? But please stop doing it on the next thread ok?

>>10640116
So Gura made anywhere from 180k to 900k from ad revenue? (180.4m channel views)

>>10640152
Do you even know what living rent free in your head means?
Pretty sure they were only included in discussions because you fuckers started shitposting using them

>>10640224
It's always shocking to see how easy it is

>>10640192
Niji reclining...

>>10640224
Everyone is just making fun of the Vshojo retard.
If he's real, then it was fun shitting on his delusions.
If he's a falseflag, at least it was funny.

It’s really weird. Holos got many streams to 30k and 20k today and no Niji made it past 10k but why are there many people seething at Hololive? Isn’t this the numbers thread? Not the Nijicope thread?

>>10640224
>>10640251
>Nijiniggers seething seeing Holo’s numbers today
Kek

>>10640274
But no holo get 100k tho what's the point? All of them beaten by comeback chick

holochads lives rent free in your head with that daily shitpost

>>10640208
>>10640321
>holo and chads in the same sentence
Does not compute

>>10640319
Sorry for using the Nijicope but 2.05m subs can’t beat Miko 3D stream… Also we’re talking about Niji vs Holo here, using other chuubas is just pure Nijicope

>>10640319
>comeback chick
Retard doesn't know Pmaru has been making content non-stop for more than a year.

(you) get, pretty easy

>>10640274
the sultan won yesterday. today was taken by an indie. hololosers continue to lose.

>>10640515
You do realized that the conditions of winning the day was changed from majority of top 10s to just top 1 due to the fact that nijinigs can't stop seething that Holos takes the win almost every day in a week?

>>10640515
>Retarded Nijinigger talking about a nigger doing retarded stuff
Kek. Nijiniggers really live up to their name

>top 20
16 holos
>top 25
20 holos

is niji doing alright? and they are barely on the rank today

Kuzuha is streaming BoTW ep 3 so at least 1 Niji is going past 20k today.

>>10640158
Asoul might already BE a CCP puppet for all we know, or at least their higher ups are considering swearing fealty to the CCP like Mihoyi did to avoid the axe. As for VR? Gods only know what Niji is thinking right now regarding the situation as it's rapidly unfolding. I wouldn't envy them, that's for sure.
At least Hololive will be shielded from any issues since they already bit the bullet on getting out.

>>10640630
Today’s Holo numbers are much much stronger and will embarrass Nijiniggers to dust. All the cope they will have is that 2m sub indie which Nijinigs call a ‘who’

>>10640515
>indies always on nijinigger side
Yes, cope.

>>10640431
I wonder if it's always the same anons who just can't help themselves

>>10640719
With 396 posts and 68 posters...probably, that and some amount of dramafags that like to drop by for easy (you)s.

>>10640630
>Emperor hal lose to Lamy snake game

Always hilarious to see delusional anons posting about Nijisanji dying when they're literally spamming with goods, music releases and events for months.

>>10640374
we can play the same game

>>10640699
They would just cut them off.
As far as I remember, bilibili owns them but Nijisanji provides the tech and is more of an investor.

wasn't this guy super popular?

Always hilarious to see delusional anons posting about Hololive dying when they're literally spamming with goods, music releases and events for months plus has better CCV than most corpo vtuber

>>10640838
Really? Then why are they considered part of Nijisanji when 774 has about the same amount of Niji investment but is clearly seen as something different?

coco's freechat at 12k now

>>10640831
Yes, those regular looking people are totally comparable to 300kg fatasses

>>10640862
Maybe for the first 2 weeks, but he still makes a shitton of SCs
This is his 6th or 7th Ark stream in a week and NijiArk numbers have declined the past few days.

>>10640913
Niji wanted their branding in China. They already had two failed attempts in China before VR (Nijisanji Taipei and Nijisanji Hong Kong iirc).

>Niji afternoon and primetime so far
Not a particularly strong day

You know if you retards are going to stoop this low I'd rather we just talk about China instead.

>>10640920
thats just the average american

>>10640374
>>10640920
>gura's audience is actually fat balding ojisans
you guys told me only zoomers watch her