/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>10756871
positive
/vt/ laps up basically every female /here/tuber

>>10756871
It pretty much only benefits 4chan users so probably a net negative overall.

>>10756871
Depends on why they come here. If they only come here to laugh at us, it's a net positive I suppose.

>>10756871
Depends on the person. Tryhards like Pippa make it a negative thing when they spew out le 4chan memes every minute like a broken autistic record. Keeping it subtle is a positive thing.

short term positive. long term negative

>>10756927
Explain pic related then?
>>10756871

Negative. There is no worse place for them. I actively hate /here/ vtubers and once I think they may be here I anti them or they just become persona non grata to me.

It's only good if the only difference it makes is that people will shill them and introduce me to some great chuubas like Lumi. It stops being good if their content is actually pandering to this place.

>>10756871
Could go either way
You could have a menhera here who takes the things said here seriously. See: Ollie, See: Moona.
You could also have someone who realizes that this is all a big joke and nobody really means the things they say here, see: Koopa, see: Luni

>>10756871
Good because. Consider the following...
Fuck you mori and Ollie

I think it's a neutral. There's nothing wrong with being and posting here, but I think it's a bad idea for overall growth if you actively pander to this place in your videos.

>>10756871
Hard to say since it's dependant on how much the vtuber themselves panders to this place. Some could be /here/ but simply never say a single thing that gives them away, meanwhile others might throw a sly reference out there and those that are really desperate for viewers will post in threads.

>>10756871
If they were /here/ from the beginning, pretty neutral, not much changes.
If they come here later, definitely negative. We've seen plenty of times how bullshit threads here have made vtubers sad, caused them to go on breaks and come back disillusioned. Even if anons were just larping.

>>10757286
What about those that have no intention of ever even hint that they know about here but let a dog whistle slip out?

Negative. All they do is go "haha lol sneed" "haha lol i hate jannies" No content other than shouting out 4chan or /vt/ (which is a newfag board). Someone like Pippa unironically (or even ironically) referencing Kekistan is the epitome of /here/ cancer.

>>10756871
neutral
It provides some guarantee that they are not a normalfag and allows some antics and fun that wouldn't be possible otherwise. But there is also the risk of them being a fucking schizo or a cringefest.

>>10757337
Things don't slip out on accident, if that happens then they most likely did it on purpose and go in the small reference group.

Damn Pippa living rent free

>>10756871
Both, although the only one i really don't like is Pippa mainly because she acts like a /v/ermin and /pol/tard more than being actually /here/

>>10757180
Koopa basically went against all the advice given to her here and you can see the results
She's also a menhera but that's practically a given with vtubers

>>10756871
here-bros, where the fuck is my /a/ chooba?

>>10757180
>nobody really means the things they say here
Whatever makes you sleep peacefully anon.

>>10756871
positive if I like them
negative if I don't
neutral if I don't care about them

>>10757221
I'd fuck Mori

>>10756871

Vtubers should not be on /vt/. It's for their own good.

>>10757510
I haven't checked anything related to Koopa in months, did she really fuck up?

>>10757078
she's the best EN, what's there to explain?

>>10757643
Did you miss the part where she fucked a fan?

>>10757643
she's pretty much going steady, networking out and doing her thing

>>10756871
Its fine as long as the person is an oldfag, and not a zoomer.

>>10757753
>Did you miss the part where she fucked a fan?

Fail.

>>10757822
/vt/ was buzzing with that shit for like a week brother. Not wanting to believe it doesn't mean it isn't true.

>>10756871
positive only if they pretend not to.

>>10756871
Negative, there is not a single good confirmed /here/ vtuber

>>10757850
Oh, I believe you. That's not what gets me.

>>10757643
Yabs and she's kind of stagnated going by her stats at least, maybe her content is good but after her schizo posts and everything I basically just can't bother with her

A shame because girls like Kronii show that there is mass-market appeal for deep voiced sassy vtubers and not just kawaii uguu, but Koopa's probably had enough inconsistency and drama that she'd get into Vshoujo at best

>>10757599
Pregnant Mori is best Mori.

>>10757521
Ask Daisuke to become one.

>>10756871
I strictly watch /here/ vtubers only. They are more relatable, so they're better.

>>10757137
What has Lumi done to nod to /vt/? I thought she had a cult following for all the niche rts games autists love.

>>10756871
It depends on what they do with it.

>>10758374
if you know, you know

>>10758374
also watch her streams if you want to find out, I'm too poor to have a spoon to feed you with

>>10758374
You might want to check the /vt/ League threads.

Absolute negative. It only attracts faggots who brazenly discuss 4chan in every open space.
You ever see some dumbcunt in a comment section try to
>greentext?
That's the kind of sperg that loves it when someone is /here/. They always have their "muh usenet" response ready too, as if they're old enough to have ever used that. Consider that average downie that posts here. This is who will flock to anyone who outs themselves as browsing here. It's almost like there was a reason we weren't supposed to talk about 4chan outside of 4chan.

>>10756871
yes

>>10759121
>>10757368
>>10757116
why do you type like this?

>AHHHHH A CHUBA IS BROWSING LE EVIL RACIST 4CHINS IM GOING INSANE
literally who gives a fuck, if one does the only way it’s a problem is if there is pandering

I'm on here all the time but I don't try to specifically pander to the 4chan demographic. Twitter just doesn't really work for me. It's very cliquey.

I dont necessarily think it's a bad thing, it just depends on how it's done.

Prepare for autism, guys. Bare with me.

Back in the day, when my autism was at its purest form, I used to frequent the /mlp/ containment center for my horsefucker research.

Lauren Faust (creator of g4 mlp) actually announced (I think on twitter) that she was going to do a Q&A on 4chan/mlp with a tripcode and everything.

People had mixed feelings about that and many were even asspained about it, but when it did happen, it actually went really well and everyone had a good time, Faust included.

Probably wouldn't look very good for Hololive from a PR perspective though. Brb, killing myself.

>>10756871
If she is a literal 2 viewers streamer, why not?
For anyone else is really bad being associate with trash like us

>>10760548
Bullshit. Everyone's voice being heard isnt a negative. Theres just as many faggots/niggers/kikes/whores/trannys/honkeys/rednecks or whatever the fuck as anywhere else and we all share the same space. 4chan is inherently tolerant. You just have to get over no no words.

>>10756871
negative for them, then they will be shittier vtuerb so it's negative for us in the long run.

>>10757398
>Things don't slip out on accident,
Did you ever have a human conversation with another person? things can and frequently spill out.

>>10760548
Most posters here were underage b&s at that time.
They think that this entire site is /b/ because they heard about the stories of the edgy 4chan deep web

>>10760548
>reddit spacing

>>10756871
I don’t see it as a negative, other than for their career. Being associated with le ebin hacker site doesn’t go over well most of the time, largely when advertisers or sponsors are brought into the mix, and that’s primarily due to “public outrage”, aka twitterniggers. Bar that, and keeping containment in mind, it’s not as though your average poster is the very personification of primordial evil or something.

positive if 2views
negative if you're from a big company, because dog whistles can only go unnoticed for so long

>>10756871
Pippa is /here/ and I hate that bitch

>>10756871
Pippa is /here/ and I love that bitch

>>10756871
Pippa is /here/ and I don't care about that bitch

>>10756954
This. 4chan isnt a secret club, but its definitely not a website you should be bragging about visiting

>>10756871
It depends on the chuuba, honestly. There's a few types of /here/ chuuba:
>Just /here/ because they know they can get attention here. Any dogwhistling or meme regurgitation is awkward, forced, and frequently done just to establish rapport.
>/here/ due to various circumstances, but don't really want to be /here/, and will cut & run first chance that presents itself. The previous group usually end up in this group.
>/here/ because they were always /here/ before becoming a chuuba, and consider this place at least some fragment of their identity, even if they've grown past it or think they have. The "you're here forever" mentality.
>They weren't /here/, but anonymous board culture resonated with them at some point, or generally have the kind of attitude that resonates with people from /here/, and now they are /here/ (or assumed to be so). This group is the type to get a cult following on /vt/.
>They're not actually /here/, but they're here to see what crazy shit we're saying, because they don't have many other places they can see it.
I refuse to name names because I ain't trying to come off as an anti, but each of these categories has multiple real-world examples. There's huge differences between how different chuubas that are Certified /here/ handle that badge, and that's what REALLY determines whether it's positive or negative.
4chan on face value is never bad or good, it's what people do with the power of anonymity, and what others allow anonymity to do to them that is good and bad.

>>10756871
Pippa is /here/ and i despise that bitch

>>10766110
name names pussy

I wish they were here so they read how much I want to stuff my dick in their mouths t b h

>>10766110
>4chan on face value is never bad or good, it's what people do with the power of anonymity, and what others allow anonymity to do to them that is good and bad.
this doesn't matter when it comes to public opinion. there's no way for anyone to tell which anonymous poster is the chuuba. and it's not like the chuuba is keeping logs and revealing posts they made to prove that they weren't racists, neo nazis, or bigots. because there's no way for the general public to tell, they're going to lump the chuuba in with the worst.

>>10760999
You're replying to a literal brony and reddit spacing is the first thing you feel the need to call out?

>>10766464
But what's being discussed isn't what the public perception of /here/ chuubas is, it's what people who ARE /here/ think of chuubas that are also /here/. If your argument is "it's negative because other people can find out" then that's definitely an argument, although not one I agree with. Mori is definitely outed at this point but nobody seems to care.

>>10766821
as a /here/chuuba, my interacting with 3/4ths of /here/chuubas has been about as 4chan as i expected with 1/4th being moderately decent. if i found out another chuuba was from /here/ i would err on the side of "they're 4chan edgelords"

>>10766898
That's more a problem of the chuuba than a problem with being /here/, though. You can say the same shit about any other site's community. 3/4ths of Redditors are attention-starved slime, but some are alright. You'd probably have the same kinds of issues with them even if they weren't /here/.

>>10766898
>>10767128
I never understood the whole stigma behind lurking or even posting on 4chan. I guess brand name boards like /b/ or /pol/ are what normal people instantly think of if they've heard of it, but beyond that I'd say that this is a lot less circlejerk-hugbox than reddit. I guess with the whole kayfabe for chuubas, it's better to not ask and not tell.

>>10756871
I usually despise /here/ vtubers.

>>10767986
>I never understood the whole stigma behind lurking or even posting on 4chan.
i just told you. there's no way for a potential viewer on twitter who is looking for cool vtubers to follow to know which racist post on 4chan is from the chuuba or not, so they default to playing it safer rather than not and just avoid a chuuba i know comes from 4chan.

>>10768051
Would that really be their immediate thought, though? "Oh, they browse 4chan so they could be racist/sexist"? I guess in today's climate it could be. Really paints a bleak picture of how much shit is drilled into people's heads.

>>10768219
>Would that really be their immediate thought, though?
yes.
>Really paints a bleak picture of how much shit is drilled into people's heads.
it actually speaks more about how shit of a place 4chan is, but you're free to perpetuate this us vs them type of mindset which causes the problem in the first place.

>>10756871
Being here is a positive, breaking containment is a negative.

>>10756871
It goes into the box of "questionable life choices".

>>10768219
>Would that really be their immediate thought, though?
Absolutely. This isn't a new idea, either, so I'm not sure why you're painting it as one. The concept of "hiding your powerlevel" is older than this site and certainly older than a lot of the people browsing it today.
I still think that somebody being an edgy twat is more on them than the boards they frequent, but if you're trying to quickly get a read on somebody and they openly advertise unprompted that they're associated with 4chan, you're not stupid for instantly wanting to distance yourself.

>>10768279
This. Every 10 views attention whore indie that shills themselves here is cancer

>>10756871
it is BASED

>>10756998
this.
they will always want to 'expand' to a newer audience. eg koopa. besides, i don't like girls who are overly cynical like /vt/ tends to be.

>>10758054
What drama? I know who it is but never bothered enough to actually follow her shenanigans, didn't seem like drama queen at first though she supposed to be rather comfy if anything.

>>10760147
Sorry should I type like dis!?!

>>10769048
>recorded a twitter audio file in-person with a male vtuber who was a troopa
>had a shitpost on /vt/ trying to play cool after doing something so stupid
>made a 5 paragraph schizo diatribe saying that she didn't want people to watch her if they expected her to act like GFE or a mommy and that she can do whatever she wants and you don't have to like it
You know, just menhera shit

>>10769616
All of that is true, though. If she wants to fuck a fan and keep it under wraps that's her business, and she's not required to provide GFE shit to viewers. Just because she had a schizo rant under pressure from retarded manchildren doesn't make her a drama queen. This is literally some /r9k/ "well she's a drama queen and a whore and we're better off without her" coping but adapted to vtubers.
If that shit happened to me, I'd want off this site, too.

>>10770092
tldr; her statistic growth shows the evidence

Seeing clips from the peppa pig girl or whatever shes called made me realize its a net negative.
This is a redditor board, so being a /here/ chuuba means their tastes and humor is the same as an edgy redditor

>>10756871
Pippa is /here/ but she should hide it. This place is a shithole and it can't be good for her in the long run to be associated with this place.

Usually a negative. The here forever types like gura and Kiara don't explicitly advertise it or wear it as a badge of honor because troll culture is just a part of their identity. In that sense it's a positive to neutral aspect because it makes those chubas relatable, for better or worse.

Then you've got the tourists and ironic here's who are either looking for attention or trying to get clout from being le edgy pseudo anonymous shitposter. Nobody likes tools and posers specifically because they're just imitating a cartoonist caricature of what board culture truly is. Most of the overtly here chubas are this. Nyanners proved to be this as well.

What the latter don't seem to understand (likely because they're too young or new) is that just posting on 4chan doesn't make a chuba a true here. There's an actual 4chan mindset and culture, as well as reasons behind it that can be found in past happenings on 4chan and the internet as a whole. Rather than being burn the world down / everything goes types, classic 4chan culture is largely focused on amoral humor and relatively responsible trolling.

That doesn't mean boundaries don't get pushed or people don't get their shit wrecked. But overt malice and cruelty are frowned upon explicitly because people traditionally drawn to pseudoanonymous image boards know what it's like to be socially homeless and prize the ability to express oneself and freely talk about hobbies/interests above all else.

This is different from places like lolcow or kiwifarms, where the entire point is to find fault with and publically shame people. We love mocking people around here, but that level of exclusionism, hatred and desire for a strictly controlled social hegemony (aka cancel/lynchmob culture) is much more reminiscent of mainstream social media platforms than 4chan.

Now of course, if wannabe ecelebs are gonna come into the anime communuty to psychologically manipulate broken people into giving them money through things like cosplay or vtubing, that's the point at which alarms go off and people get dfeebsive. But aside from that, classic 4chan anime/troll autist culture as a whole usually doesn't give a shit about drama, gossip or real life bullshit when there's shitposting to do or escapism to smother yourself in. That's the mark of a true here, and it's a level of sincerity no chuba can ever fake.

With that said, chubas being here is always a net negative for their mental health and board discussion because they're interacting with the fanbase from the perspective of a creator who has insider knowledge on themselves and possibly others that fans wouldn't know and that the chuba can't share. They'll literally be surrounded by people who have no choice but to seem ignorant and say ignorant things. Chubas looking to discuss vtubers should probably just do it among themselves in a discord and stay out of fan spaces. They already have streams to interact with their fans. Putting on a hat and glasses and then pretending to be one of the proles is only for strong-minded chubas who identify as a fan first and a creator second, and can compartmentalize those two things.

>>10771092
Well said, anon.

>>10757521
Pomu's more of a /jp/ chubba but she's probably one of the more anime literate chuubas desu

>>10771092
mostly agree with this. desu the point of being anonymous too is that it makes everyone equal as well as free. being overtly /here/ is bad for board culture because you establish a hierarchy through clout, when the merit of 4chan is that every post is given equal weighting and value by default, in that there are no hidden posts or arbitrary number systems

instead people have to consciously engage with the content and make a judgement for themselves based on the merit of the content, not who wrote it

the only reason to admit you're here overtly is because you want people to fawn over you - though I'm not against nudge/wink behaviour i.e. Gura's cute & funny ribbons

>>10756871
Positive. Pippa actually talks about news I care about.

>>10766241
>>10756954
Why is KFP like this?