/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

nobody cares

honestly brother you could find a better hobby than making false flag drama threads about anime avatar streamers

>>10776445
If uto collabs with hololive expect everyone to spam Ame

Hololive already leeched their way to the top, they leeched off free chinese clippers and subtitle groups, leeched off indies, leeched off nijisanji, and now that there's no one bigger to leech from there's no reason to leave their bubble. Hololive gains nothing from outside collabs

>>10776445
>limiting collabs with vshojo is one thing but a vtuber like uto whose initial popularity is thanks to holofags
Did you see Yagoo interview? He directly sees her as a leech, don't expect a collab with her

>Selen trying to make herself relevant by collabing with holo leech
I thought nijiEN can't get any lower

>>10776445
uto works with a chinese black company anon... THAT is why cover doesnt want to work with her

>>10776445
You can have the Blue Leech free of charge!

>>10776445
>collabing with Uto is a win to Hololive
what? I can never understand Selenfags
Just because Niji EN is small and collabing with Uto is a win for them doesn't mean it would be a win for Hololive, not to mention their dominance on the EN circle already
Ame didn't want to have anything to do with Uto for a reason

>>10776643
She went through a long legal battle months ago and isn't affiliated with it

"Sisters" association by having the same designer/rigger is fucking retarded. Only exception are the likes of fat cat and her friends.

>>10776495
Lol even Ame only considered her a cousin and not a sister

>>10776445
Get to my creation's level first, then maybe i'll consider.

>>10776839
Well, some of them ended up having nice enough chemistry to collab

>>10776839
Shiepi and Tomoe collabs are fun and their mama is adorable when she freaks out over how cute they are.

>>10776445
She has a much bigger history with niji streamers so it's expected.

>>10776602
stop replying to bait you double nigger rratfaggot

>>10776749
>>10776643
It was never Chinese, meanwhile Cover has chink executives on its board.

>>10777777
Good one.

>>10777843
Sure one, buddy.

>>10778006
Ofcourse, pal.

>>10776557
link and timestamp?

>>10776445
Is Uto still that big anymore after she supposedly parted way with her former secret company? People used to talk about her as the promising rising star all over the place, yet threads about her seem to be a lot more subdued nowadays

>>10777777
>sextuple digits wasted on a dramanigger

>>10776445
>limiting collabs with vshojo is one thing
Aaand opinion discarded

>>10778288
She streams rarely so the live viewers are not that many but still pretty big.

>>10778257
not OP but i think they are talking about an interview that yagoo had about people using legal loopholes to ride off hololive success like using their illustrators to have similar vtube models like their talents i.e. ame and uto basically calling them leeches

>>10779338
He's right too. It's embarrassing when all these random unrelated people call themselves "sisters" of Hololive talents because they hired the same illustrator and expect preferential treatment

>>10777719
enjoy the Holo leech collab nijibros, nijiEN need all the exposure to at least crawl behind holoEN shadow

>>10776445
Why are you chinks so fixated on Holos? Nobody cares about you chink chuubas. Coco already graduated, get over it.

>>10776445
If Selen actually collabs with her i refuse to watch her anymore. Anything the biggest Chink leech touches will become contaminated. Her entire life pre and current existence is a yab wrapped up into another yab. Do urself a favor and avoid this leech.

>>10779387
Yagoo needs to get off his horse before his company crashes and burns. Or sell it off to Sony or Tencent.

>>10779338
That's fucking stupid. Cover didn't buy Nabi, so she can make as many avatars as she wants.

>>10779546
>Or sell it off to Sony or Tencent.
Isn't Sony owned by Tencent?

>>10779546
>Sony or Tencent
Was this supposed to be bait or a rebuttal

>>10779578
Kind of, but truthfully would Uto be as big as she is now if she wasn't designed by Nabi?

>>10779580
NTA, but I hope so.
>>10779590
Everything is bait if you cope hard enough.

>>10776445
>hololive
>the most big and influential vchubba corp
>its been and is doing something that is le bad

Yes thats why its so successful, true, they defo need to correct that autistic "error", youre smart OP

>>10779338
Look at Nacho, her design is an obvious copy of Gura and it's 100% an attempt to leech off her popularity. Yagoo is right again.

>>10779622
As I said, cover didn't buy Nabi.

>>10779546
It's hard for Cover to be affliated with the Chinese market after the yab, yet I don't see that they're going under for the next five years. They have entertainers between an anime avatar who'll carry their incompetency, local sponsors who still naffled at their continuous popularity, and lastly viewers' supachas which is still one of the highest among other Vtuber agencies.

>>10779338
I doubt he said it like that. I can't imagine Yagoo being such a hypocrite.

>>10780024
>I can't imagine Yagoo being such a hypocrite
Brainwashed.

They're smart, they don't want that shit like Zen pulled on Pika and Pomu or having to deal with that grifter Uto

>>10780024
Stop sucking his dick holobronyfaggottranny

>>10780456
Is this a picture of young yagoo?

>>10780456
Who's this fatty? japan variety show people?

>>10776445
t. collabeggar

>>10776532
This. I like most of Hololive girls but fuck this company.

>>10776445
Forgot about uto honestly

All drama aside, guesses for the potential third? I'm guessing either temp or restya, but probably temp, because him and Selen have interacted with one another before.

>>10783407
It's restya, already confirmed I think at end of last selen apex collab

>>10776839
A Gura/Luto collab would be hilarious though because they're both horny gremlins

>>10783407
>he doesn't know about the dozens of hours of teetee between Uto and Temp
He's a shameless manwhore.

>>10784447
If I didn't know, why did I bring him up as a potential collab partner in the first place?

>>10784549
Maybe read that again, because that's not what I meant. Selen and Temp already collabed together a few times, it's not a surprise if they team up again.

>>10776445
congrats!

>>10779338
Source?

>>10779816
Do Chumkeks really?

>>10776445
Uto shouldn't be allowed to collab with Hololive all things considered anyway.

>>10776445

>>10785802
I really hope she never collabs with them, holobronies can go suck my dick.

>>10779338
>Artists are only allowed to make one avatar, everything else after that is a shameless copy
Touch grass.

Isn't it the other way around, those who have foothold in the Chinese market don't want to collab with hololive?

>>10779338
OP here, I don't think Yagoo is referring about people having the same ilustrator if not trying to use that connection to beg for a collab with someone from Hololive like Uto did with Ame calling her sister when Ame directly didn't know who she was.
Basically: Having the same mama but doing your own content= Ok
Having the same mama and trying to get into Hololive, or begging for a collab= fuck off

>>10786603
She never begged for a collab, but what can you expect from holobronies.

>>10786772
Even if she didn't ask for one directly it was clear as fuck she wanted one, which then prompted her community to spam Ame with collab requests. This is how a streamer manipulates their audience and you fell for it, you dumb fucking simp.

>>10787623
She literally mentioned her once on stream after getting spammed with "omg blue ame" and "are you ames sister xD" for days, autistic retard.

>>10787844
Nah, she mentioned wanting to collab with her after her channel grew bigger etc.

>>10788321
That was the same stream and the question wasn't about Ame specifically but hololive in general. Also not sure how saying she doesn't want to collab until she gets bigger would be seen as collab begging in the first place.

>>10788565
Never said she was collab begging, I said she manipulated her audience into spamming Ame with collab requests.

>>10787623
She became a vtuber because of holos, congrats you made another person hate them.

>>10788674
>streamer says she doesn't want to collab
>retards spam other streamer regardless
>somehow it's the streamer's fault and she is manipulating them
Nice logic. And again, the question about collabs wasn't even about Ame in particular.

>>10788707
>She became a vtuber because of holos
Her and thousands of other people

i dont think you can get leechier than uto. there should be a case study on how to leech properly and use her an example because my god i have never seen anyone blow up from riding off someone else success as hard as her. her entire comment section for 3 months was like "wow looks like the non gremlin traits went to this sister xD what an angel"

>>10789037
You should be a case study as well because no one else needs as many meds as you.

>>10789037
So teakeks got mad because Uto didn't have a repulsive personality and their girl did?

>>10789429
Basically yes. She was called Ame but good back in the time.

>>10789037
Whats the issue? Shes probably one of the most precious toober out there, if not for ame i wouldn't have found her. I only gained from it.

>>10788778
She never said she didn't want to collab. Why are you making new stuff up in every post you make? Lol.

>>10776445
ESLchamma...
Also this is, again, an exclusively EN problem.

>>10793797
She said she doesn't want to collab until she grows bigger, hence she doesn't want to collab right now. Do you have brain damage?

>>10794042
Nope, she didn't put it that way. She said she wants to collab when she's bigger. If one of them asked her to collab she obviously wouldn't have said no, so it's not about her not wanting to collab. The meaning depends on the wording. You're so fucking retarded you can't even understand basic writing it seems.

>>10794191
>Do you have brain damage?
I'll take it as a yes. You can't grasp the simplest of logic. I want to collab when I get bigger -> I don't want to collab right now. How is that hard to comprehend? This place is actually full of literal sub 80 IQ retards.
>If one of them asked her to collab she obviously wouldn't have said no, so it's not about her not wanting to collab
Nice headcanon.

>>10776445
SELEN I KNOW YOU ARE /HERE/ PLEASE MARRY ME I LOVE YOU SO MUCH, I WON A PIE EATING CONTEST ONCE LIKE 5 YEARS AGO

>>10776445
Why do you retarded Utocucks keep bringing up this collab? They're going to be playing apex anyways and Selen will have to carry the entire stream. Hololive would gain absolutely nothing from collabing with the leech.

>>10795057
Selen got last place in the tourney, nice fanfic selenium.

>>10795699
I meant carrying the stream in terms of being the only entertaining person you retard. Also, don't tell me that you think Uto is actually good at Apex? It's obvious that she got hard carried by Restya.

>>10795865
And you honestly believe she's not entertaining?

>>10795865
She did about as well as Anzu who is master-pred level in terms of skill. But can't expect some shitposting retard to actually watch the games.

>>10795988
>Equating Uto and Anzu in terms of skill
Nice joke faggot

>>10796093
I know reading comprehension is hard, but that not what I said, retard.

>>10796234
Then do tell me what you actually meant anon, rather than backpedaling like a fucking idiot.

>>10796302
I said that she did as well as a high skilled player, so unless you want to imply that Anzu also got "hard carried" your original statement is retarded.
And no shit the pro player on the team will do better than the others, who would've though.

>>10783481
Gura has Kronii now

>>10796368
>And no shit the pro player on the team will do better than the others, who would've though.
Even you're admitting that Restya carried. The mental gymnastics that Utocucks do to defend their oshi is fucking hilarious, thanks for the laugh.

utofags please spoonfeed me a vod, she cute

>>10786437
Nah, some Nijis have revealed that they've reached out to Hololive for collabs but Hololive management won't allow it.
Most recently Pomu wanted to collab with Kiara but Kiara's manager refuses.

>>10776445
You mean HoloEN? other holomem outside EN branch has no problem tho. i think (you) just focused on shitting the EN too much

>>10796579
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia65wNSHLL4

>>10780024
He was talking about needing to stay ahead of the competition and one of the instances he used with people competing with Hololive was to go out and hire the same designers they used, so they need to step up their game compete better and not just coast on having good designs. In the old days almost all indies had garbage models, most still do but there's been a large uptick in indies/small company vtubers dropping serious coin for topline designs that rival or surpass anything Cover/Nijisanji has. It's an arms race to stand out.

>>10796737
You'd sooner see a collab between Holo ID and Niji EN at this point. They interact on twitter on a fairly regular basis anyway.

>>10796737
At this point they have the same amount of viewers and it wouldn't even be leeching

>>10797042
And Uto did better, hence the popularity.

>>10776445
>YOU WILL COLLAB WITH WHOEVER I WANT YOU TO

>>10776445
FUCK UTO, SHE'S A FUCKING LEECH!!! CHINESE LOVER!!!

>>10798130
>FUCK UTO
Temp...

>>10794339
>I want to collab when I get bigger -> I don't want to collab right now
Yes, because huge channels generally don't collab with small ones for obvious reasons. It has nothing to fucking do with wanting or not wanting, you absolute monkey-brained retard. It really sucks that the rest of us non-retarded people have to share the world with subhuman scum like you wandering about.

>>10799783
No one asked for your headcanon, dumb schizo. You don't even watch her so stop assuming shit about what she wants or doesn't want to.

>boasting about collabs.
>It's always playing Apex.
Tell me about the colabs when they start playing something that isn't a meme game because the only reason for the collabs is because of the primary addiction to Apex of the guest and not because of who asked for the collab or from what company they come from.

>>10800015
Not even Utofags watch Uto though. She never streams.

>>10776445
>leeches off of Hololive, pretending to be a first a Holo, then an indie, then admits she's a chink lapdog, then denies it again
>Utards: Why don't they like her?
This bait tasted really bad btw but that's worth it.

>>10795060
Based.

>>10776445
Uto isn't a vtuber, she is a housewife and student who steams a few times a month the pay the bills.

Uto isn't a streamer, she is a student / homebody who streams the minimum amount to pay the bills.

>>10801103
>homebody

>>10796737
Why the fuck are you lying? Is making shit up holobronies pastime sport? Pomu never said she wants collab with hololive

>>10797042
>In the old days almost all indies had garbage models
Stop talking about thing you don't know holobrony

>>10776445
>uto whose initial popularity is thanks to holofags
Its thanks to her gaming the algorithm and putting hololive tags all over her videos. Most fans of hololive hate her, or at least look down on her for it. Why would collabing with her even be a plus?

>>10776445
Mori had to beg management for ages to get a collab with her personal friend Milkyqueen. If it's this hard to get a collab with someone your talent knows in person and has their own establish career in a japanese company, you can imagine how much of a pain in the ass it must be for anyone else.

>Don't speak Japanese
pls andastahnd
>Not from an established company we can sue if it goes tits up
pls andastahnd
>Not taco bell
pls andastahnd

>>10801125
I get a ban if I discuss her personal life.

>>10800015
My "headcanon" is being played out every time a new hololive gen is debuting. Meanwhile you're putting words in Uto's mouth and saying she doesn't want to collab with holomems. I wonder who's fucking headcanoning? Jesus fucking christ.

>>10802819
>and putting hololive tags all over her videos
So she got popular because of holofags? It astounds me that there are utokeks who are still rejecting the notion that Uto gained most, if not all, of her popularity because of hololive to this day.

>>10803797
God you're dumb. Not going to explain it a 4th time. I don't even know what point you're trying to make with your retarded assumptions, there is literally no way to spin her saying what she said into "manipulating her community to spam Ame about a collab".

>>10776445
I hate how this is still happening. I don't even watch Selen but why. Why collab with the leech that is Uto? Is Selen simply autistic and blind to the fact that Uto doesn't deserve collabs? I don't get it.

t. Unitynigger. Holo or Niji, I love them except anyone who collabs with Uto

>>10802681
But Pomu and Kiara have interacted before and said stuff like "I'm your fan" to each other on twitter so uh.

>proof or fuckoff faggot
here, this can only be interpreted as "collab". Wonder why there's silence recently though.
https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1414684778490650632

Interactions: Pomu to Kiara
https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3Apomurainpuff%20to%3ATakanashikiara&src=typed_query&f=live

Interactions: Kiara to Pomu
https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3Atakanashikiara%20to%3Apomurainpuff&src=typed_query&f=live

they've dmed each other on twitter. Can't find a clip yet but Pomu once talked about it. The lack of twitter interactions suddenly stopping at 13th September can be easily imagined as Kiara dm-ing Pomu "hey my manager says we need to stop interacting publicly" so there's that.

>>10804806
Omegatroon at it again, stopping the fun

>>10804806
Nice for Holobronies to just put up the "manager" boogeyman when it could simply be that their talents are all talks and no actions. What can those "managers" do if the livers just go ahead and collab? Punish Kiara and risk a massive PR shitfest? If Holos decide to just be good girls and follow whatever their managers said, it's on them

>>10805153
I'm not a holobrony. I'm both Nijifag and Holofag, watching only 1% of streams on each side even though I watched way more back when HoloEN was interesting and when NijiEN first came out.

now, that's fair. The talents themselves could be shit. That's why I think they could learn a thing or two from Selen who doesn't give as much fucks to what the managers say. But ultimately, there's a limit to how often you can reject what the management decides. Worst case scenario, management hates you and bullies you into graduating, something Hololive girls would know full well.

>>10805153
>risk a massive PR shitfest?
>>10805381
to complete this post of mine:
yes. look at Coco. It was quite.. a PR shitfest. Covered up under the guise of chinese antis, but ultimately management handled her situation poorly on purpose. Making her cry, not giving enough mods to deal with the chat spam. The whole hate thing could very well be an inside job even Coco herself doesn't know about.

>>10776445
Based Selen. Loving the seethe of the Holoshits.

>>10779546
>he doesn't know about the handshake deal Cover and Tencent have done in August
kek and Holoshits will deny they actually pulled out of China.

>>10785802
Fucking based. Good thing Uto hates her failure of a """sister""" anyways.

>>10787623
hahaha lmao
just shut the fuck up this obviously never happened because I'm an Uto member and we don't want anything to do with Holoshits at all

>>10802681
Because KFP are desperate for their failure of an oshi to get the Pomu buff. Why do you think Selen is mogging 4/5 of EN?

>>10805381
You're a Holobrony through and through. Get that through your thick monkey skull.

>>10785802
if Uto ever collabs with holo, she'll be the worst Chuuba to ever exist. Not only did she shamelessly try to promote herself by putting relevant hololive info in her videos, but trying to get subscribers from collabs? wow. just... disgusting.

>>10805880
keep believing what you want brother. I hate Ina not drawing Coco and Ayame making up bullshit excuses for not streaming enough and joining the summer festival thingy they had to know full well that I'm not a brainwashed holobrony who likes everything from the brand like a mindless zombie and think the talents can do no wrong. My opinions differ from the positive-hugboxes of the mainstream holobronies. I don't like them that much nowadays.

>>10805732
On what planet is Ame more of a failure than Uto? Utofags are getting uppity with their falseflagging now that their oshi hardly streams anymore and it's real sad to watch.

>>10805948
>holobrony doesn't know holos used to put niji tags back in the day

>>10806116
again, the point of my posts so far has been the girls should be more like Selen and not care about management, but understandably, they fear being bullied into irrelevance in the background and silenced by NDA, since one of their heroes (Coco) got that done to her and got reduced to a hated camwhore on vt.

If that still makes you think I'm a holobrony idk what the fuck else to tell you.

>>10806116
Nah fag, you're still a Holobrony. We've moved on from Hololive as a website. No one with a brain willingly supports them, not even the whores they employ.
>>10805948
It's actually Hololive that leeches from Uto if anything.

>>10806180
that's good to know. All the more reason to hate holo now. But that doesn't mean I won't touch their content. If they play an interesting game I'll watch.
Same as Finana and Elira. Va-11 Hall-A and Night in the Woods seemed interesting, so I tuned in.

I just hate Uto with a passion. that's all.

>>10806163
>he doesn't know about Amegeddon and her various excuses to not stream and not collab outside Hololive
>Uto has been yab-free since debut and collabing with indies across the broader VTuber landscape
This is your brain on Covercopium

>>10806230
>leeching
>from 500k subs

are you listening to yourself right now? what benefit would holo get from leeching off Uto? and do you have anything to prove that holo does?
post them and I won't even reply to defend. As I said, I just hate Uto. I don't care about anything else and I watch content from both sides.

also
>we've moved on from hololive as a website
that's good to know. I'm just a tourist who visits every 3 months. I don't know what the fuck is happening on vt.

>>10806426
For ideas and creativity you fucking nigger. How else would Ame be reclining when she's out of new ideas?

>>10802681
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBG013syul8&t=9633s
At least watch streams you fucking faggot.

>>10806426
Stop reply to a troll you dumbass

>>10806313
>uto
>yab free
she's a thief and stole from an artist by withholding pay.

>>10806588
I'm trolling? How? Ame NEEDS Uto for new ideas nowadays. That's a fact

>>10806588
thanks for the reminder. it was obvious, but I was a fool.

>>10806619
also this. This is why I hate Uto with a burning passion. as someone who commissions artists, this kind of thing just seems insane to me for a vtuber to do.

>>10806724
Bro I'm not trolling, Ame is desperate to steal ideas from Uto when it's clear Uto has the mogging in creativity over her.

>>10806426
Anon search Holobrony in warosu to witness the mental illness you’re replying to.

>>10806866
why would I search for insults?
I guess it's true that I should just assume anyone trying to insult anyone else is mentally ill, but sometimes I'd like to think they're not, just for a second.

>>10806619
Nope she paid the artist (before the artist posted about it on twitter). Nice 9 month old rrat though.

>>10806313
>uto
>yab free
This is called being a fucking retard who never did their reps.

>>10806769
Can you utofags stop shitposting and go back to your tranny discord server? I'm not even a teakek but I can acknowledge that Ame is one of the more creative chuubas out there. She doesn't care enough about her leech cousin to steal any ideas from her.

>>10808046
>>10808187
He's obvioulsy falseflagging you fucking retards.

>>10802819
>Most fans of hololive hate her, or at least look down on her for it
kek based uto
>NOOO YOU CAN'T USE THE SAME TAGS NOOO

>>10776445
Maybe?

>>10802819
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T USE THE SAME TAGS

>>10776445
>anycolor winning
You really belieb that, brother?

>>10815024
This is y Utards r the way they r. They actually beleeb Hashtags r the same as Metatags.

>>10795699
>Caring about JP Apex tourneys
Watched one, never again- Man that shit is legit asinine boring to watch.
>Bunker yourself in one area
>Wait for ring
>Bunker in another area
>Repeat till last ring

>>10776466
I care