/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>>10787947
shut the fuck up you butterfly eyed bitch

>>10787855
I never understood it either honestly.
Better framerate and nice special effects and people act like it's god's gift to mankind.

>>10788052
>people
One (1) shitposter coping hard

>>10787835
>vtuber singer ranking based on ccv
You'll make /vsinger/ went nuts.

>>10787499
>being one it also have a boatload of ways to get them to be cooperative and in on the same page.
Making your talents do things they don't want to do for NUMBERS is how you get graduations, especially when you're doing completely fine in that aspect too.

>the idea behind this isn't just to get those potential viewers to watch your talents. but to prevent more of them coalescing into your largest competitors viewerbase.
This is some special level of tribal retardation.
Following this logic, Hololive and Nijisanji should never ever collaborate or mention each other for fear of giving "the other side" free advertising, completely ignoring that vtubing is still niche compared to 3D streaming and mutual promotion was how Hololive and Nijisanji gained an audience to begin with.

In fact, Hololive and Nijisanji should direct their fans to actively harrass the other side because forcing them into taking hiatuses due to harrassment means they can't stream.
No streams = no numbers.

>any viewers lost by sitting this out gets doubled in effect when they enrich your competitor allowing them to further expand their operations.
You're retarded if you think any of Kuzuha's apex viewers are going to move to a Holo just because they joined a CR cup scrim.
There's literally 2 of them in the same scrims right now and they're getting worse numbers than if they did literally anything else. Then there's Nene and Suisei, who get better numbers playing Apex than Ib and Fuwa, despite being absolutely awful at the game.

>>10788052
It's more about the recent events where not only their sensor and tracking got way better, but newer models like Hoshikawa's made people forget how bad the older ones still are.

Otherwise, go see the mid 2020 threads when Holo Gen 4 was debuting and people were clowning on Niji nonstop for their 2017 quality 3D models.

People like to complain on either side.

14k seems to be the peak for Irys.

On the "tehnically a vtuber" side.

Have we been tracking the budget cat's Minecraft horror tours?
Today's got 14k and apparently one even passed 20k.
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCk538Ux0EALmU4SOZmVfNRA

>>10788289
Chihiro's 3D model showed up for 5s in Mao's 3D debut ending and that thing is an atrocity lol

Well, IRyS just picked up the outflow from Aqua ending her Karaoke stream. She went from 13k up to 14.4k now.

>11 holos and 3 holostars live now
And 10-12 hours from now there will be nothing. There must be profit to be made that is actively being ignored.

>those Mito numbers
Niji fans haet block game

>>10788643
Having one foot on Ark and one foot on Minecraft surely is not helping

I can;t imagine an IRyS with a better looking live2D. Imagine the potential numbers

>>10788508
A lot of schedules have yet to be made it looks like. There is definitely some money to be made during Euro hours since Kiara has such a niche audience I doubt another chubba streaming would affect it much, but...yea, Fauna is the closest but even she's a bit later than primetime for most euros.
Ina's streaming at 1pm pst/4pm est though, so it'll be up to the rest of the members to fill out the evening.

>>10788354
I'm watching Mito POV, but CR cup completely covered it

>>10788643
No shared history at the level that the Holoserver has. So much kino history contained in one server, its very, very difficult to do that when Niji just does not have the same level of hako-oshi.

Is Kiara just an ambassador for this game? Based on the amount of numbers she burns to continue playing it she must be at very least a shareholder, maybe even a minority owner of the company

>>10788816
They have it though, but it peaked August 2020 with the Summer festival, there were ... 30-40 i don't remember, but there were a lot of people on the server.

peaked at 88k for Himawari for the Dokuzuhonsha reunion
https://playboard.co/en/video/e__LwrjH0Ug

>>10788901
Kiara is the gamer of EN branch, she will finish the game regardless of how shitty the numbers are, weird duality for a numberfag like her.

>>10788901
Kiara doesn't usually drop JRPGs but these streams are hard to watch.
Her gameplay is brainless and awful, her commentary consists of yelling and screaming, and these games are niche to begin with. The playthroughs are long too since she's bad and takes longer than needed.

The stream unironically improves when she moves onto SC reading.

>>10789000
Isn't this a Dokuzuhonsha 3D live?

>>10789102
Quite ironic indeed for someone who loves JRPG and played a lot of maple story. ToA is my first JRPG and I played it better despite unknowingly proceeding on hard mode throughout

I'm still willing to catch her boss fights though, and Suisei's playthrough, probably next month after concert.

>>10789148
IT is, i messed up the stream link and now can't find the Minecraft one to fix it.

* ongoing top, unfiltered *
APEX domination through and through. Major props to Miko

>>10788752
Honestly if EN3 had just two holos from the GMT 0 to +2 area it woud probably help a lot to fill those hours, but Cover is probably more interested in saturating NA hours instead.

>>10788180
>>10787838
>Making your talents do things they don't want to do for irrelevant stats is risky/not okay
sure, depending on the situation there are cases where it would be unwise to do so. despite that, it is my belief that they should be able to convince their talent with little risk given the appropriate approach. and for jumping in a trend that can get 100k+ concurrent viewers every few months, the decision should've been clear.
I'm sure anyone who arent new to these threads knows why NUMBERS arent to be dismissed. Sponsors/Advertisers knows where to look and there are only so many that would sink their ad budget on a supposedly niche culture.

>only goes to niji
a decent amount went to VSPO as well.

The APEX scene, while it does have a supposedly low-value toxic audience, is being well-organized and maintained by key players in the industry.
With constant content (monthly tourneys/events) and those key players as stakeholders, it has reasonable potential to get even more popular in the near future. And maybe even among JP normies which are a higher quality audience than currently.

>mutual promotion
To the contrary, joining these tourneys is what they should be doing had mutual promotion be a priority. The choice was either your competitor gets access to the new trend audience pool or you both gets access to them in addition to each other's audience.

>>10788816
What the fuck are you talking about? Niji Minecraft server has ten times more of clips and kino story in there. It’s just has way longer history and most of them are burned out from Minecraft about the same time Hololive gets westerner attention

>>10789346
>GMT 0 to +2 area it woud probably help a lot to fill those hours
I don't really think there is a big enough audience for english speaking vtubers to justify it.
Most of the countries in central and western europe consume content in their own language, going to the lengths of dubbing foreign (american) movies in their language
>Spain and Spanish
>France and French
>Germany, Austria and German
>Most of eastern europe and Russian / their local cyrilic based derivative

Britain alone doesn't have a big enough audience and unless a multilingual "HoloEU" was created, I don't think it would be a good idea.
Fauna mentioned her need to balance her schedule around good hours for both AUS and EU timezones so I believe council has a mandate to fill those hours

>>10789346
It'd probably help, but imo getting someone who fulfills the following is probably...difficult
-Is proficient english speaker living in Euro timezones
-Wants to be a vtuber/already is one
-Has additional skills that attract the attention of people scouting/doing interviews
Esp. given how vtubers are more niche over in GB, which would be the most likely area to grab an english speaker from. Perhaps they did have some audition, but didn't pass muster for one reason or another.
Well, saturating NA hours so we don't end up with days where there's literally NO non-members HoloEN streams going on in an entire evening definitely was a priority, and its mostly worked out.

>>10789466
>Niji MC has more clips than Holo MC
Do Nijiniggers really?

>>10789435
Rather than forcing their talent to do it, wouldn't it better for them to make Gamers 2 and fill it with esports player? Consider it mini VSPO or something.

>>10789466
Then why does only the sultan gets good views for it? It's being a massive debuff for everyone else right now.

>>10789466
That's my filthy EOP ass speaking (sorrynotsorry, I was hoping someone would call me out on it if I was wrong). It's a shame they all burned out though.

>>10789435
>The choice was either your competitor gets access to the new trend audience
There is a very very very very very ˢᵐᵃˡˡ overlap between
>variety / "idoly" streamers
and
>FPS streamers

If VSPO can fill that niche that would be amazing but I truly doubt Hololive would benefit from trading Aqua and Botan current choices of variety streaming for FPS.
Aqua moreso, she dipped her toes in it and burned herself completely in the attempt

>>10789466
>Niji Minecraft server has ten times more of clips
Maybe you are talking about early 2020 and before because if otherwise I'll have to call you on that

>>10789615
holo newfag better do a fact check

>>10789620
Sure, assuming they would fit the criteria

>>10789466
>It’s just has way longer history
TOP KEK

>To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Nijisanji longer Minecraft story. The lore is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head.
>There's also Mito's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into her characterisation- her personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance.
>The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these stories, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE.
>As a consequence people who dislike Nijisanji Minecraft story truly ARE idiots

>>10789841
lmao,the first time hololive has their own Minecraft server was right after Nijiserver clip blew up, and they went fucking realm and 4x bio. It was a shit show.
For you newfags, just search マイクラにじ鯖 切り抜き and list result by views. Most of you newfags don't even know what vtuber is back then lmao

>>10789435
>it is my belief that they should be able to convince their talent with little risk given the appropriate approach.
How can you convince Aqua, who is traumatized by her Apex experience, to stop doing her idol reps and play it again with little risk?
Buffed numbers for a week every few months? When she can drum up some off-collab or MC event and achieve the same result?

>Sponsors/Advertisers knows where to look and there are only so many that would sink their ad budget on a supposedly niche culture.
Holos are not struggling with numbers or sponsorships. Apex/FPS sponsors won't be asking Pekora or Marine for sponsorships, they'll be asking Towa or Matsuri so Holos already got that niche covered.

>and for jumping in a trend that can get 100k+ concurrent viewers every few months, the decision should've been clear.
Just focusing on numbers, "jumping on the trend" was a disaster for Towa, Matsuri, Roboco, and Choco when their scrims and tournament numbers were worse than their solo Apex streams.

>The choice was either your competitor gets access to the new trend audience pool or you both gets access to them in addition to each other's audience.
or you lose your base audience because they're not interested in Apex AND you don't get a new audience, because Apex is already saturated and the tourists have decided on watching the staples (Kuzuha, Hal) for every tournament

>>10789579
>>10789583
I think you have an outdated perception of the euro market if you think young people don't consume english content or don't know the language.

>>10789972
So, brazillian or mexican?

>>10789972
Anon, you are talking about early 2020 at most. For vTuber timeline that's pre history.

Of course people are talking about the 10k+ CCV era of vtubers, not the 2k- vtuber era. Might as well bring the "four horsemen" and Annoying Orange while you're at it.

>>10789670
>Aqua
If Holo wanted someone in Hololive as their APEX representative, she is the worst choices.
Even Matsuri is better for that role.
Fucking Baqua too autistic to join any custom or tournament.
Her skill is not good enough to reach Master solo while keeping her sanity/health.
Her fanbase probably gonna raging if you put her in team with any male.

>>10789991
>if you think young people don't consume english content or don't know the language.
They do and they do. It just get brutally outnumbered by the people watching content in their local language.
There is a reason spanish speaking streamers hold some records of attendance for streams

>>10789651
It never was a debuff, Sultan pulls good number, Ars and Leos do too. It's just majority of them are burned out from Minecraft like Takamiya, Rena and even Belmond who are known for doing consistent late night Minecraft stream
>>10789662
They milked Minecraft for almost two whole years, it's time to stop
>>10789705
No, it still is today. The pure amount of JPにじ鯖 clips is two years ahead of holo server. And some of the top viewed clips still holds their place

>>10789435
>>10789670
>>10790077
Sorry, wrong click.

>>10789435
Let's use Aqua's example
>hitting stupid numbers on her solo Apex grinds
>bullied
>went on hiatus
>came back
>dropped Apex
What's her numbers now? I've always said this, apexfags are not sustainable. They are only good for numberfagging.

If this doesn't convince you, check the recent daily chuuba rankings for the past three days, how's apex?

even if kuzuha plays, it's just 1 addition.

>>10789466
Yep, that's what i was trying to tell them too, but have trouble finding clips and streams.

Till Ibrahim's castle, it's last big event was the 2020 Summer festival
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WiFjsvo1Cg

Since then, smaller groups like Hisui's, HSKW and the ever present Ars have still been online, but not 30+ members anymore like in 2019-20.

>>10790093
I don't think
>well they would realistically only get 10k live views instead of one million so it wouldn't be worth it
is a good argument when holostars and holoID exist. Having euro hour, potentially non-native english speaking holoENs also doubles as marketing for an undervalued market. Why give up without trying? It doesn't make sense to me, it's not a big investment.

>>10790254
>hitting stupid numbers on her solo Apex grinds
the numbers weren't even that impressive desu. she could get better numbers with MC and other stuff

>>10789990
>Sponsors/ads
That's a good point. Shibuya_HAL has a blog for this and with VSaikyou, he ended up on deficit. Not the first time.

On business perspective, it's not doing well. Hal remains convinced through because it did numbers on ccv. And that's all.

apexautist go back to your shit thread. Your game is cancer, and so are you.

>>10790210
>They milked Minecraft for almost two whole years, it's time to stop
Says who? Would it be time to stop if Kuzuha and Hal are still playing Apex a year from now?

>The pure amount of JPにじ鯖 clips is two years ahead of holo server. And some of the top viewed clips still holds their place
I won't deny that there's more total clips due to how much more time the Niji server has been around, but anything with significant views or attention are compilation clips of 2019-early 2020 events.
There's barely any clips since more than a year ago that garner much attention apart from Ars falling asleep and Ib's castle project.

>>10790666
seethe, apex = numbers and this is the number thread.

>>10789466
>Nijisanji has better Minecraft
Oh fuck right off. You Nijiniggers are insufferable.

>>10790614
>not impressive
>regular Apex streams
I doubt it, Hal couldn't even still compete with those on his regular streams. And kuzuha fluctuating on the same range.

>>10790696
And Ars falling asleep was copyright struck by her so she could upload it instead.

Hey look, another shitty fucking Apex tournament and the thread is a trash fire again when it was comfy yesterday. The connection is not lost on me.

>>10790614
>solo autism
Reminder

>>10790927
And it's worse than the clippers clip

>>10790696
Kuzuha did played a lot of apex, but nowhere near two years. And by default, Apex legends as a competitive shooter battleroyale. Are not that easily burned out compare to building blocks.
>There's barely any clips since more than a year ago.
As i said before. Most of them burned out from Minecraft about the same time hololive gets westerner's attention. There are just not than many Minecraft stream anymore.
More than one of the members that used to play Minecraft a lot leaves Minecraft for over 12 month. Ryushen, Ebio, Rena, Hakase, Kagami, Shiina and Sasaki etc etc
Those are even before NijiArk was a thing.

>>10791000
You just know who's back on this thread kek

>>10791049
Damn, that is like right at or near Kuzuha Apex numbers. She did very well with it. Wonder why all the Apex fags turned on her when it seemed to be popular.

>>10790845
https://youtu.be/QeoUrrp0TCs?t=382
Nijisanji has better minecraft all along
ALL
ALONG

Sod it I'm going to go get drunk

>>10790210
>No, it still is today
Sorry anon, I would be hard pressed to believe that from August 2020 forward Nijisanji anything Minecraft comes even close to Hololive MC server, be it JP server or EN server.

I can easily concede even without checking that the “Hololive resistance / Neighbors wars” era of Minecraft is a shadow of what was going on the Niji server but the from the “Joseph” era forward? I truly doubt it’s even comparable, be it in live audience (which Pekora was getting in the 40k range and anyone in the general vincinity, in the 15k audience) or in clips, interest or memorability.

You seem truly stuck in the pre pandemics vtuber world, hanging tight on your memories of better times for your favorite company.
It is absolutely preposterous to even imply anything Nijisanji Minecraft 2021 come even close to anything Hololive Minecraft 2021 with one well regarded well celebrated (for the numbers) exception: Sultan’s big palace, which seems to exist simply to make people ask
>Nijisanji has a MC server?

>>10791175
Because she's a girl and wasn't sucking up to male APEX players due to being in hololive.

>>10791068
>Are not that easily burned out compare to building blocks.
We're about 1.5 years for HoloJP too actually, but minecraft interest is high and the server is still very alive.
With the upcoming EN portal, Holo Minecraft, the excitement for Holo Minecraft has arguably never been higher, both for the viewers and the members.
Maybe Niji speedran through all their narratives already, because I don't see Holo Minecraft dying any time soon.

>More than one of the members that used to play Minecraft a lot leaves Minecraft for over 12 month.
That sounds like a Nijisanji issue. Probably connected to why the # of streams of some of them dropping to only ~10 a month now.

>>10791396
Nah, it was mostly because of her play style. She was going for “solo Master”, whose best strategy seemed to be
>zero communication, cut and run and leave your teammates to hang at the first sign of trouble
which of course would piss a collaborative heavy game as APEX

>>10791396
well VSpo did the opposite strategy and what happened?

>>10791313
You know sometimes it's just giving me headache talk to newfags, they don't know shit. they are not around when you do. And their argument is absolutely pathetic.
Was talk about clips number and clip views, shithead bring up EOP buffed live numbers post 2021.
jesus christ

>>10791396
Fucking retard.
It's because her playstyle was extremely selfish since she would never communicate and played like she was the main character of an anime, rather than a team player.

>>10789670
>small overlap
Which means a larger amount of potential new audience.
I'm well aware there might not be much fps viewers looking for idol variety streamers.
Making these type of viewers want to look for your type of content is what your talents are tasked for. Content consumers are more flexible than people normally think, which is why advertising and marketing works.

>>10790254
>>10789990
>Aqua bad results
The thing about this particular talent is we don't have nearly enough info whether what exactly cause the bullying and/or her reclining viewership. Keep in mind that the endurance happens in the middle of chinese harassment (which are a large part of her former fans) and Coco's graduation which see potentially feel partially responsible to. Considering these and her resulting mental state obscures any reasonable analysis towards her resulting apex performance.

>Aqua how to convince
See above, without details of her situation my suggestion is as good as anyone's.

>Low tier holos bad results
I disagree, although they may get disappointing numbers on their scrims. They are in the position to access a larger pool of audience had they not join at all. Just because some talents arent successful at getting/keeping viewers from the other POVs, doesn't mean that others couldn't.
And i'm pretty sure these holos viewerships trends better than the holojp average after the scrims/tourney. meaning they actually managed to keep some audience from this.

>>10791546
Inclining heavily, it seems. The logic is sound.

>>10791568
>shithead bring up EOP buffed live numbers post 2021.
Anon, this is not the “Japanese only” numbers thread. That would be a retarded thread given that the market went global back in April 2020.

This is a thread that mostly live in the present, one that has a hard time accepting even pre December 2020 numbers for being before the algo change and you want to compare 2019 numbers with 2019 numbers?

That’s retarded beyond belief. Keep hanging tight to your cope and your memories of a better past.

>>10791632
what's their numbers the past 3 days including today?

>>10791632
>Inclining heavily
They didn't even show up in the ranking today.

>>10791546
>and what happened?
>>10791632
>Inclining heavily, it seems
True. Up to a ceiling of slightly above NijiEN Selen, slightly below 2 times a week “supa reading / watch along” Ame and significantly below “won’t touch the stuff” Aqua and Botan.

Truly doesn’t seem like a good gamble for Hololive, but could be a good one to buff an eventual new gen on NijiEN, to add a couple of extra Selens and make an unofficial “NijiEN Gamers”

>>10791609
>small overlap
>Which means a larger amount of potential new audience.
From most of the examples we've seen from Hololive, it means distancing from your usual audience by spamming something they do not enjoy watching.

>And i'm pretty sure these holos viewerships trends better than the holojp average after the scrims/tourney. meaning they actually managed to keep some audience from this.
Nice numbers you just pulled out of your ass.
At least we have the numbers that prove Holoviewers do not enjoy watching Apex tournaments and Apex tourists aren't interested in watching subpar Apex gameplay when there are better female players in VSPO.

>>10791869
its from the charts some anon posted some threads ago. the one comparing by generation over time.

VSbros... I don't feel so good

>>10792075
Well at least, better than niji EN

>>10791453
Nijisanji server's history goes all the way back to 2018s, i have no idea what holomem is doing in their server. Nijisanji server literally did everything possible already. They have enderman farm, they have automated everything. They build the rail across the entire server.
Just check the difference of the map
http://cyoki.html.xdomain.jp/2434map.html
The development in holo server are pretty much just about two times bigger than Amamiya town.
Which is build by Amamiya---alone

>>10792024
That chart showed nothing of the sort. Quite the contrary, you can easily, without even knowing anything about APEX, to pinpoint what months were the ones with Matsuri on CR, VSayko or the niji championship simply by looking at her chart.

>>10791609
So you're dodging Aqua because of "not enough info", sure.

Who else are you going to convince to join Apex tournaments using your numbers/sponsors argument?
Botan?
You have no leverage over her since she gets a shitton of sponsorships, get good numbers already, and doesn't care about numbers to begin with since she's in retirement mode.

Who in HoloJP can even shoot straight?
>Low tier holos bad results
Your words.

Have you even seen the top Holos play Apex?
It would be a joke to enter them into a tournament and wasting their time instead of letting to continue to do what they are succeeding at, getting big numbers.

>>10791566
>relying on randos
you are actually retarded if you think she would have done better with team play

>>10792143
We got too cocky VSbros... washed up haha dragon is beating us.

>>10792186
>luna house in the center of the niji town

>>10792186
>did everything possible already
That’s the flaw in the thinking. It’s NOT about the server or even about Minecraft in itself.

Wanna know what some Holo girls were doing lately in the JP server?
>Sora train station
The most basic bitch project ever, but one that goes way beyond what’s being built or how it’s being built.

The goal is not to build anything but to interact with Sora, one of the oldest, most revered but most distant Holos in the server and outside.
Anyone doing anything remotely close to help in the project will get a guaranteed audience merely for the chance of seeing them interacting with Sora.

Hololive MC server is not a place to play Minecraft, that would be a beaten path as you said it happened on Niji server, with everything to be done in the game having been done already.

Hololive Minecraft server is a slice of life improvised live action anime. People didn’t give Pekomoona 100k CCV for building a basic bitch building, they did to watch the final episode of the months long PekoMoona arc.

IRyS getting 14k in this slot head to head with Aqua Karaoke is easily the outstanding achievement of the day.

>>10792186
Nobody cares. The Nijisanji server is irrelevant. A look back into time before Niji became dominated by males and before the Apex addiction. Its a relic of the past that nobody cares about anymore.

>>10792186
Anon, the problem is you think that Minecraft's draw is the building stuff part. And in that regard Niji already maxed out. Holo Minecraft isn't about building shit. It's about the interaction between chuubas. It's like comparing a long running shounen that's pretty much run every troupe to the ground to fucking Yuru camp.

Miko raking up some serious “watched hours” here. She truly is going for the crown, even if she’s far far away from reaching that goal.

>>10792433
Fantastic post. This exchange has made me realize that Nijisanji fans truly don't understand what makes Hololive popular and why it has such an iron clad grip on the hearts if so many people.

It certainly isn't about Apex skill or complicated builds in Minecraft.

>>10792186
>i have no idea what holomem is doing in their server.
You don't understand the appeal of Holo minecraft then since progression and development aren't related to the reasons people are watching.

It's a breeding ground for unlikely collabs, zatsus, random encounters, and stupid storylines that get people invested, kinda like Ib's castle building was its own arc except Holo arcs aren't project-based.

No one cares that Subaru built a big building, they care that Korone commissioned Subaru to build a big stupid looking house she designed (35k CCV), Subaru builds said stupid looking house on stream (25k CCV), and Korone inspects it 8 months later because she forgot about it until Subaru brought up that her company is closing (30k CCV). The building technically took up barely any space, but it was a content goldmine.

>Nijisanji server literally did everything possible already.
I mean, they can always start a new server like with NijiArk if they want to let fresh blood play around without feeling redundant.

>>10792720
That isn't anything new though. Miko is always near the top in total hours streamed as well as viewership. That is why she finishes ahead of everybody other than Pekora every month.

>>10792754
>It certainly isn't about Apex skill
It most definitely isn’t. There is a reason Choco was getting 5k on her 10 hours APEX grind and it dropped to three digits when she was playing VSayko
>people don’t watch her for the APEX
>people watch for the interaction with the chat, suffering noises and once in a blue moon good play and champion
When she played the same team as Astel people just jumped to Astel POV, if she wasn’t going to talk much (she was shy as fuck in the team) at least people could get a good look at someone playing well.

>>10792433
this is pretty sad for you, cause if holo server is a slice of life improvised anime
Niji server is 20 anime happened all at once
you got isekai genre:
https://youtu.be/PwWPRZ_R6uc
you got nichijou:
https://youtu.be/ePtYvYNCizA
you got love comedy:
https://youtu.be/_9tH_qn1Z9s
you got chargeman ken but Minecraft:
https://youtu.be/8DmTqJDMkf0
you have absolutely everything. It's straight up just sad newfag will never know.

>>10792804
>No one cares that Subaru built a big building
This 100%. Every single other girl got a higher audience visiting Haachama’s HUGE Tower of Babel than Haachama got from actually building it.

It’s an interactive slice of life, with chat directing the streamer to particular points of the server
>go visit Shubvangelion!
>go visit Haachama’s Tower
>Gura left you a present, go fetch it
and then seeing the interactions, live or separated in time, to unfold

>>10792947
Except one anime is more entertaining than the other to most people and continues to reinvent itself by adding new blood and creating storylines, while the other is burnt out and believes it has done everything it can.

>>10792947
20 failed anime?

>>10792947
>you have absolutely everything. It's straight up just sad newfag will never know.
Not only everything you posted has a similar counterpart in Hololive but I can find one example matching each of yours this month alone, in the EN server alone, from the moment Council debuted alone.

Your most recent example is from 9 months ago. That’s ridiculous. Again, stop living in the past, stop talking about things you clearly don’t know (Hololive MC) and stop clinging to better days that are not there anymore

>>10792947
And despite that no one actually cares... The draw is the Chuuba and their interactions. It's like saying cape comics is better than manga because they have way more broken power levels with convulated story lines and 50+years of history. I should know since I tried getting into comics and shit just turned me off. The girls are the draw and right now, the Holos draw more than Nijisanji.

>>10793175
>everything you posted has a similar counterpart in Hololive
Can holostar enter the server? lmao

>>10792947
What's the point of these? Forced interactions don't make for a fun content. If they'd only made it more casual so that funny moments appear organic, I bet it would've led to better results.

>>10789337
fubuki got 36k, why she isn't in the list?

>>10792075
>Shit on Noah
How pathetic can you be to numberfagging against such a nice, friendly and hardworking girl (who is friend with some Niji and Holo members, to boost)?

>>10793312
Girl on girl romance can't be a love comedy?

>minecraft autism
This thread isn't going very well.

>>10793321
>Forced interaction
Do holobronies really?

So if Nijis and their fans got sick of block game does that mean the same thing will happen to hololive? I can only hope

>>10793332
Keyword is "on going", anon. Those were the top streams by the time that anon take the SS. FBK's stream was already over by then

>>10792075
>shitting on honorary holos
How about you fuck, nijinigger?

>>10793356
Seanig hours. Also, it's just some guy clinging to the past. There's a reason why Niji doesn't call themselves the No. 1 Chuuba company anymore. Their autist just haven't gotten the memo yet.

>>10793375
Holo fans don't watch MC streams for Minecraft, so it's unlikely to happen anytime soon, unless Holos themselves decided that they are bored of it and stopped interacting with viewers or each others in MC. I meant, just look at Lamy, her fishing stream was still able to gather 7-8k last time I checked and she didn't do anything special or exciting gameplay-wise but autistically fish for several hours

>>10793312
>Can holostar enter the server
Not really. Hololive is a Yuri only server but great romance have occurred there with one of the greatest examples being
>Haawata: the movie
https://youtu.be/E9ce4WsDCQE

>>10793321
>Forced interactions
This isn't hololive where they literally read from a script bro

>>10793519
Even more recently with Gura/Shion. Which is funny because that is an international story line which is something that will never happen in Niji since their JP branch treats the foreign branches like they have the plague.

>>10793570
At least Hololive lets the chuubas do their thing and doesn't hire professional actors and dancers for their 3D streams like Niji does.

>>10793593
Selen has been branching out nicely and successfully, though?

>>10793375
It's not for the game per se that makes the people watch them. It's really more of the interaction between the members as well as the stream could also turn into zatsudans.

>>10793644
Selen is a great streamer that go above and beyond to overcome the limitations that she faces.
That doesn’t mean they’re not there

>>10793321
>Forced interactions
you mean this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNxFLpIofvw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc1v5JHB3KU

>>10793638
>At least Hololive lets the chuubas do their thing
Why did Coco leave the company again?

>>10793593
holo cope has reached new high
https://youtu.be/Qi84_lmtkXw

>>10793638
>hire professional actors and dancers for their 3D streams
L
M
A
O

TICK TOCK PEKO

>>10793593
>will never happen in Niji
Rosemi\Ange

Wow this clip is going viral

>>10793697
>Links two kino streams with the CCV, VOD views, and # of clips that Nijisanji can only pray to get from a minecraft stream in 2021
KEK

>>10793745
The professional dancers being contracted by Niji for their 3D streams is common knowledge bro. I don't know where you have been.

>>10793747
Mori passing Pekora is solid proof that people have no taste.

>>10793949
Seethe

>>10793869
>The professional dancers being contracted by Niji for their 3D streams is common knowledge bro
I didn’t know that. Faceless backgeound dancers or wearing the avatars of the talent?

>>10793816
> two kino streams with the CCV, VOD views, and # of clips that Nijisanji can only pray to get from a minecraft stream in 2021
> 33K and 50K
Laughs in Sultan average 4hour long nothing but building stream. Go check the number yourself dumb holobronies

there were two shitposting MC threads a few moments ago and the shitshow here. whats up? did /v/ermin get uppity for some reason? is it nijiniggers ? looking at the bait threads its obviously people who never watch streams and don't get the appeal

>>10793978
>Go check the number yourself dumb holobronies
I don’t really have the knowledge to do that and if I find something with lower numbers I’ll be accused of cherry picking.
Can you do the honors?

<<<< Reminder for holobronies that hololive is fake, soulless garbage. Le happy holo family is the biggest lie in the industry.

>>10793869
>The professional dancers being contracted by Niji for their 3D streams is common knowledge bro
There are so far only handful of niji 3D stream even involves dancing. And to think this quote is not even the dumbest thing i hear today.
Jesus christ you have no idea what you even talking about

>all these talks about talents and whatnot
How about you faggots put your money where your mouth is. There's an ongoing poll about the most talented active vtuber here
>>10773085
>>10773085
>>10773085
Vote for your whores now!

>>10794029
No problem coming right up
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmZ1Rbthn-6Jm_qOGjYsh5A/videos
just wish you have the basic intelligent to know which is Minecraft which is not.
I don't expect much from you so if you have trouble be sure to tell me

>>10794101
Midget numbers? Pekos gotten over 90k CCV with Minecraft already. Gura gets 700k VOD views too...

>>10794101
I’ll assume you mean these; the three most recent. Is this a good example for me to fetch the numbers of that Gura/IRyS interaction and compare?

And this is why you should've gotten drunk with me

>>10794101
I don't fucking get Sultan at all, how in the flying fuck did he get 380k view on a 6 hour building stream? I checked it and nothing really is going on,the shit makes no sense to me

>>10794059
>talk about talent in the numbers thread
kek, get a better pasta, this one doesn’t apply to this thread

>>10794038
I thought Nijifags would be able to read Japanese but I guess they're really just /vt/'s hipsters latching on to whatever is less popular around here

>>10794101
>Running to Ibrahim, the only Niji with impressive MC numbers
Ok, do you really want to compare Ibrahim's ~20k CCV, 275k view Minecraft VODs to Gura's ~25-30k CCV, 600k+ view Minecraft VODs?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoSrY_IQQVpmIRZ9Xf-y93g/videos

Even his big 47k CCV castle project finale VOD only has 454k views, which is lower than the average Gura minecraft VOD.

Ibrahim 6.5 hr VOD (385k views) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh-MwYJ2Be0

Gura 3 hr VOD (571k view) (The first clip BTW)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLh4qogv8ag

The VOD the 2nd clip is from has 836k views in 2 days.

>>10794268
I’ll assume those three streams >>10794208 are the finale of his “Sultan’s castle” arc. Final touches and presenting it to the people he chose to be worthy

>>10794038
>Holos telling other Holos how to get to their place for maximum entertainment
>fake, soulless garbage
?

>>10794285
Top line:
>Watame typing out the joke she is going to say in 5 minutes, word for word
Second line:
>Botan giving them the coordinates of a trap she set up for them to fall in and in which direction to look so that it appears authentic and not scripted
Third Line:
>Mio wishes them good luck and says its okay if they mess up the lines
Fourth line:
>Mio @everyone to tell them it has been exactly 1 year since she has shaved and she is planning to see how long she can go on without shaving herself
Fifth Line:
>Asking for anyone available for a collab at 2 PM just for 45 minutes

This thread definitely went from okay-ish discussion to shit a little bit too fast...

>>10794268
It's not that hard if it's a long stream + almost 20k CCV

This Ame MC stream from a few days ago is at 324k and 2 hours shorter with a 21k peak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuMBNglZByo

>>10794314
It’s an imageboard, post images

>>10794441
Yes, we know you can't read Japanese. No need to drive the point home.

>>10794340
nah, his VOD are as much is not higher weeks and month ago, scroll down a bit.

>>10794441
>Fourth line:
>Mio @everyone to tell them it has been exactly 1 year since she has shaved and she is planning to see how long she can go on without shaving herself
Every time

>>10793697
lmao kys clipnigger

>>10794441
Is there anything other than this screenshot to corroborate this? Someone tabbed into their chat on stream or this is a “leak”

>>10794285
The only ones who know Japanese are on their island on /jp/

>>10794441
>4th line
didnt know that voice chat is euphemism for shaving in nihon

>>10794314
>I have bigger number therefore my chuuba better
Fuck off retard, you can't quantify entertainment, but we can sure quantify how much of a retard you are for being loyal to a shitty company

>>10794511
FOR FUCK SAKE, that’s why I asked you to pick your example. You truly sound like a rested now
>X is Y, now go find the evidence to prove my point for me
>no, that doesn’t count, look further
Pick the strongest example you want to highlight your point, then people will pick the stronger counterpoint.
Asking people to prove your point for you is retarded

>>10794038
>>10794441
anonchamas... your nihongo reps. Not able to read japanese is one thing, but reading it to be another complete different language is just... I think you would fare very well living in Japan.

>>10794603
cool, the entertainment thread is a couple threads away. take care.

>>10794603
> "Niji can't beat Holo numbers"
> "Yes, they can!"
> Get owned
> R-r-retard

>>10794603
>I have bigger number therefore my chuuba better
>Fuck off retard, you can't quantify entertainment
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, do you even realize what this thread is about? It’s not about
>better

Nobody is talking about “better” here, there is only one maxim that rules this thread
>BIG NUMBER > SMALL NUMBER

If you want to talk about “better”, “talent” or other subjective measure this is *not* the thread.
If you want to talk about numbers, this is the thread.

>>10794603
>he says this in the numbers thread
cool cope, but fuck off this thread

ITT: apexnigger showing he knows nothing about minecraft

>>10794603
>I said something stupid about numbers and now can't compare numbers anymore without admitting I was stupid
>resorts to arguing about quality in a fucking numbers thread
Fuck off out of here, retard

>>10794441
Anonchama... If the 4th line doesn't at least clue you in then I don't even know what to tell you

>>10794718
>actually thinking those are nijisanji fans
Literally the dumbest post in this dumb thread

>>10794603
>>10793978

>>10794603
>you can't quantify entertainment
>he says, in the numbers thread
O KAWAII KOTO!

>>10794441
SEAfags had gone to sleep. Who the fuck is shitting up this thread now

>>10794807
ayame is a whore who doesnt deserve numbers i wish she died

>>10794826
The mexican nigger who exposed himself on /sp/?

>>10794807
>>10794857
Ojou Aishite!!!!

>>10793747
Mori... still dont get what ppl see in her

>>10793963
Nah, the actual avatars of the talents. On big Niji 3D streams they have professional actors/dancers performing on stage. The actual chuubas just provide the voice lines.

>>10794826
some SEAschizos dont go to sleep at normal times, especially when they keep getting (You)s

>>10794603
>quantify entertainment
>numbers thread
That was your mistake, you woke up the numberchads

>>10794857
Everytime an anon seethe her avg CCV goes up by 100
>Everytime an anon kneels her avg CCV goes up by 1000
ONLY QUADS CAN STOP HER!
(Trips or lower buff her for another stream)

>>10794914
Her raps I guess? just ask someone who listens to that shit if her music is good or not.

>>10794857
Reminder that Ayame had her best month ever despite streaming 5 times in the entire month.

>no Nijis in the ranking yesterday
Comfy thread
>Nijis in the ranking and Apex is back
>thread is absolute cancer

Nijiniggers are ruining this board

>>10794603
>we can sure quantify how much of a retard you are for being loyal to a shitty company
said the Nijifag without even a shred of self-awareness.

>>10794919
>On big Niji 3D streams they have professional actors/dancers performing on stage.
I refuse to believe that. I’m not even kidding, RE-FU-SE!
I know Uma Musume and other franchises do it but why the fuck would Holo put up with Marine if they could just wave in the pros?

This is slander against Niji and without evidence I won’t believe otherwise

>>10795067

>>10795067
Kenmochi is 8th and he streamed 4 times lol

Why are you guys comparing the past to the present?

If Trump was the president in 2016 it doesn't mean he is still the president today.

>>10795096
Coz Yagoo is an idolfag AND a saviourfag. And he knows that the ultimate draw of JP idols is seeing them grow.

>>10793949
Pekora's content is more cringe

>holobronies post retarded shit pretending to be nijifans
>other holobronies eats it up and blame the entire niji fandom for it
timeloop...

>>10795096
That would ruin the charm, boomer Senchou being awkward in 3D adds a huge charm to the whole picture.

>>10795096
>Why cultivate your talents and brand for years, when you can just hire pros
Fastest way to burn your company to the ground.

Have we not learned enough the shit Kizunai Ai have gone through?

People in this thread are now numberfagging normie streamers and esports. Do you guys ever look back and wonder how it got to be like this?

>>10795476
I only have to read Mori's song titles to know you are wrong mate

>>10792186
>>10792947
>>10793978
>>10794101
>>10794038
>>10794441
>>10794603

Damn, I haven't seen this level of self-ownage in awhile. Kek

>>10795485
I mean, not the first time...

>>10795485
lol and here is the desperate nijikek blaming everything on a falseflagger, again

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>57,052: Shibuya Hal (Indie)
>39,146: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>35,978: Fubuki (Hololive)
>28,845: Pekora (Hololive)
>23,898: Kenmochi (Nijisanji)
>20,382: Reid (Indie)
>19,653: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>17,431: Miko (Hololive)
>16,976: Polka (Hololive)
>16,319: Aqua (Hololive)
>16,150: Mio (Hololive)
>14,853: Botan (Hololive)
>14,445: IRyS (Hololive)
>11,922: Korone (Hololive)
>11,323: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,919: Rion Takamiya (Nijisanji)
>10,818: Subaru (Hololive)
>10,758: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>10,334: Shibuya Hal (Indie)
>10,253: Sana (Hololive)
>10,111: Hayato Kagami (Nijisanji)
>10,091: Fubuki (Hololive)
>10,018: Nui Sociere (Nijisanji)

>>10795096
Because Hololive fans have a deep connection to the girls. The fans are more interested in seeing the girls fo what they can do above anything else. Deception would be seen as a huge betrayal.

Nijisanji in the other hand has a much more casual fanbase. Niji delivers the japanese variety show experience and the general Niji audience doesn't think too much about it as long as they are entertained. That is why they can hire stand ins for the chuubas and the audience doesn't care.

>>10795485
It was all really nice until the Apex tournament started really.
Might be coincidental and people were just naturally gearing up for JP prime time, but still.
The previous thread even lasted 16 hours because there was so little traffic, then, Boom!.

>>10794603

>>10795557
Sana got 11.1k in her minecraft stream.

>>10795572
wait do they legit have stand-ins for some of their talent?

>>10795613
Thanks anon. Unless it changes the top 5 or so I don't second guess the live-ranking numbers. Whatever error they have spreads across all streams

>>10795622

>>10795622
Only for some things. Obviously when they stream they are who they are. For big concerts and 3d events though they hire professionals to play the characters on stage. The chuuba just provides the voice lines.

>>10795668
I agree with you approach but I just have a habit of checking everything again from holostats because it tracks better. Thanks for your work for compiling the chart now that piyo is no more.

>>10795622
Only for the big events like nijifes I believe and not for everyone either. It's really not a big deal like what the other anons are trying to make it out to be.

>>10795590
The discussion about Apex was nice though, we had data samples so it didn't go shit, no one had another meltdown

>>10795622
No one knows.
Technically, of course they could.
It already looks like for the pre-recorded sections they sometimes pre-pre-record the audio when it's a complicated dance routine and vocals wouldn't work. They could use stand in-s for dancing too if they wanted to and unless you're already familiar with the chuuba's movements, you couldn't tell.

But to be honest, that would be hella expensive and both Niji and Holo use their staff and chuubas even for NPCs, so why hire outside talent?

>>10788643
>>10789466
I'm late and not reading all 200 posts but fuck, she was playing a fucking horror map with JKgumi, why can't you fags use google translate?

>>10795720
I usually check Holostats because live-ranking "eats" (for no reason) streams from HoloEN.
But other than adding these manually or fixing mistakes that would affect the top positions (they start tracking after 15 min or so, so if a stream peak too early they miss) I just let it be.

All people care is
>the top
>the runner ups
>who's in and who's not in

>>10795800
Welcome to weekend number threads

>>10795485
It’s hilariously easy to see them through too. They always call vtubers names that no one actually uses. Well, real fans wouldn’t be on this board in the first place.

>>10795800
>>10795873
Stop necroing dead and shitty arguments

>watch Kuzuha only because of his numbers
>use him to shit on holobronies when I see the chance

>>10795800
yeah, we tried to ignore that idiot.

>>10788354
Horror week is pretty well known and been getting good numbers at least for the host.

>>10795590
Stop blaming apex the conversation the autists are having is about who has the most SOULful Minecraft which very obviously belongs in a NUMBERS thread. Holofags and Nijifags can't go a single nanosecond without defending their company.

>>10795753
For Holo, I can understand why they don't do it since, as you mentioned, it's too expensivve and prior to late 2020 they weren't exactly making money had over fist like they do now. For Niji though, they actually have the capital to do that thanks to Papa Sony. Also, like the anon here >>10795572 mentioned. Nijisanji is aiming for a different audience hence why I can see them hiring pros as more of a necessity so they can put their best foot forward.

>>10795557
the fuck is "Reid"

>>10795975
>do not even watch his streams or his collabs
>use him anyway to piss the stars haters

>>10796095
Apex boy.

>>10795975
>do not even watch his streams or his collabs
>use him anyway to piss the stars haters

>>10796095
VSPO male branch, with Hal, Uruca, Kanae and Kamito.

I was wondering why there were so much butthurt shitpost today and retarded fucking lies like >>10795572
>>10795715
>>10794919
But seeing the final tally >>10795557
makes sense, I know you guys hate losing, but seriously fuck off, because your retarded shitposts keeps leaking to the rest of the board.

>guy defends nijiMC from funposter
>pulls up niji MC map with reasonable insight regarding its content and history
>makes a fool of himself a few dozens of posts later
>OBVIOUSLY these are falseflag attempt from the vile holobronies, you can spot them miles away. no member of our tribe would make a fool of himself therefore this person must be a falseflagger sent from the other tribe to discredit our honor
Regulars of this thread doesn't have it easy huh.

>>10796423
At this point who cares. If 4chan holofaggots think Nijisanji hired dancers and stand in singers and borrowed the hand of the strongest Italian man for Ibrahim's 3D let em believe it. All I ask is at least make the post funny.

king...

>>10796423
But they did hire dancers for Nijifes. Shiina doesn't dance like that outside of big events like Nijifes.

>>10796180
>niji falseflagger was the starnigger all along
I used to defend your homos, now I pray they all retire.

This is the mogged line. If your favorite vtuber can't get more views than Kuzuha playing APEX at 6AM he/she is officially a failure.

>>10796509
And this is why I choose to get drunk on the weekends instead of engaging with this thread seriously.
I'm at that perfect level of drunk right now when everything I read is fucking hilarious and I'm having the time of my life.

>>10796560
Korone never danced like that either, did Cover hire a dancer?

>>10796549
Admit it, you F5 both windows up until the millisecond the first video number got bigger than the second
>ADMIT IT!

>>10796633
No Korone abuses steroids.

>>10796574
>niji falseflagger
What, I don't stoop that low.

>>10796560
>Shiina doesn't dance like that outside of big events like Nijifes
?

>>10796633
You can just admit you never watch Korone, Nijibro

>>10796605
>when everything I read is fucking hilarious and I'm having the time of my life.
This is me all the time.

>I'm at that perfect level of drunk right now
Well, this is also me all the time, but there is no relation to the previous statement

>>10796724
It's so obvious they hired a stand in I don't know what to tell you. And after all that she can't get more views than the sultan playing pachinko. Yagoo should invest in better dancers

>>10796724
You can watch Bloom anytime you want.

>>10796721
Wut, how old is this ..... JIF? Is this from 2019 or something?

>>10796721
Post your ticket.

>>10796785
>being this new
Yikes.

>>10796775
>It's so obvious they hired a stand in
kek, is this the famous nijicope? With a hint of "NO U" nonetheless.

>>10796785
on the right is last holofes so 2020
also honestly no fucking way the niji girls are pulling those moves themselfs

>>10796721
look at those girls who sit in front of a pc all day go! amazing moves, while the holos clearly hired someone as stand-ins

>>10796910
Stop moving goal posts, seaniggerchama.

>>10796910
Nijisanji hires streamers with actual talent unlike holos who need to waste time going to """dance lessons""" all day and end up doing nothing but waving their hands

>>10796822
Rindou is strong as fuck oni and lifts people in the studio several times. She has to be to take care of Kuzuha at home. Shiina is a fatass so yeah I believe it with her

>>10796822
https://youtu.be/4W7Y0p3TdkE

alright niggers, we get your tribe is infallible and can literally do no wrong.
can you faggots just stop wasting posts defending your glorious tribe? autosage is 50 posts away and its only been 3-4 hours jesus christ.

>>10796601
>plays his top game, fresh in the morning, everyone having high energy
>still mogged by 9 hour kusoge, nousagis bout to die from overwork

>>10796822
Korone is a 40 years old fat hag, and she is dancing now, but that's impossible too, I guess they hired a dancer after all. It's impossible for people to take lessons, get fit and learn to dance.

>Nijishitter gets exposed as Brazilian in /sp/ thread
>thread still responds

>>10797108
Nijis don't need to take lessons, falseflaggerchama.

>>10797161
>implying it wasn't a holobrony with a VPN

Don't forget your daily reps! Reach 1 million views no matter what, we need more shitpost material

this are really low apex numbers anyway
the game state really is awfull if this what it came to.

>>10797174
They do, they were practing for that AR live for a month, singing + dancing lessons is basic. What the hell is your problem?

>>10796822
you have no idea the power level of purple oni
that's years of Ballet training out there

>>10797174
But they do, literally the reason why a bunch of them streamed less endurance in July, Kanae even shills his dance teacher on Twitter

>>10797331
You know it's gonna be shit when jun was invited kek.

>>10797337
>singing
>basic
Indeed, what a waste Toko had to be grouped with those shit voices

>>10797337
>>10797376
>holobronies falseflagging so hard because they can't believe Nijis aren't athletically fit like normal people

>>10797331
>day 1 of scrims
>doesn't get crazy numbers the way finals do
Holy shit. How do we save Hal, bros?
>>10797391
His chat destroyed everyone elses chat when he died (except Kuzuha, lol) and as always, raided Chihiro.

To move the subject away from the current slapfest.
Out of the last 30 videos on the official channel only one managed to push past 2M views
>Hologra starring Ayame

I get the appeal, I watch her streams and catch her Hologras but I don't really get the numbers.
Why is it so lopsided? What do nips see in her to justify that number gap?

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

The day when nijibros can finally accept they share a fanbase with retarded EOPfags ever since NijiEN debuts is the day when /#/ threads is free from advanced schizoprenic shitflinging

>>10797442
>as always, raided Chihiro.
Why her? QRD?

>>10797499
Shat on him in an Apex match and they went to troll as usual, realized she cries when antis flood her chat, and stuck around ever since.

>>10797421
but i thought you were the holobrony

>>10797480
We are trying to make our EOP friends from EN branch better. To actually explore the fun.
Can you really blame us?

>>10797480
Why can't you just shitpost about numbers?

>>10797466
Hologra can be a hit and miss with the writing and the punchline, when it's meh then mindless cuteness won the day.

>>10797601
>Why can't you just shitpost about numbers?
YOU GUYS MISS THE "WHO WOULD WIN THIS FIGHT" SHITPOSTS
>ADMIT IT!
APOLOGIZE!

>>10797331
For starters, i acknowledge that this is trying to be bait but i still must ask how you got to this phrase, with
How is 78k low for Apex?
That's double Twitch daily Apex max for the whole category.

>nijinigger mistakes Korone being bad at dancing with Korone being bad at singing
>doubles down on it

>>10797499
lots of people got dislike bombed after killing jun but they can get a better reaction out of chiichan so she gets singled out.

>>10797601
Do you think eop retards understand the context of numbers. They literally can't type Tsukino Mito into google, click her channel, click google translate, and see what she's doing, let alone look at the thumbnail

>>10796721
It is adorable watching Rushia slowly wobble around.

>>10797694
Fuck off already.

>>10797442
Towa's chat was fine, 48 hour sub only mode. She does have like 150 more dislikes than usual but getting dislikes for killing a team is a badge of honor.

>>10797466
Hologra Ayame feels more like an actual character because she's used sparingly, the others get featured so frequently that they become interchangeable in how they appear in the skits. And Ayame's cute. You can't beat cute.

>>10797704
>context of numbers
Numbers are either big or small. That's all context you need

>>10797765
Just look at the dislikes and comments
https://youtu.be/Q0SFJVD33vc

might as well rename this from /#/ to /comedy/

>>10797862
yes, superchat reading streams are as important as 3D debuts

>>10797873
Why the fuck they invite this fuck again if he cant control his fans?

>>10797442
>>10797565
>>10797765
>>10797873
Everytime i read about apexniggers it gets worse. A literal cancer.

>>10797862
Kuzuha got 39k streaming a blank screen today oh no no no why didn't any Holos beat him??? He streamed an audioless white rectangle

>>10797873
KEK; and people call "300 dislikes" on Matsuri videos "dislike bombing!

>>10797765
Ah this reminds me of that match where Matsuri wrecked kuzuha's team, ccv spiked

>>10797951
Jun has big dick numbers.

>>10797951
because numbers

>>10798002
And hal is ok with this? Seems there is already a precedent

>>10798030
Hal sucked Jun's dick on Twitter and tweeted the same spam Junfags spam

>>10798030
>Hal
That's not Hal's tournament

>>10796549
Just from the date alone, Pekora was already ahead by a huge margin. king was abandoned

>>10797951
CR cup is actually PR cup, they invited Yamada even though he has no tourney history

>>10796549
>cover vs. original song
At least post Mori.

>>10797951
Ojiji doesn't care about that, he just sees numbers

>>10795485
>IT'S A FALSEFLAGGER
every fucking time nijinigger. When will you accept that your kind loves chimping out and shitting up threads on your volition?

>>10798183
ONE OF US!
>ONE OF US!
ONE OF US!
>ONE OF US!

>>10798122
I don't think kuzufags can handle that

>>10797873
Funnily enough despite cucking Jun from champion twice, Kuzuha didn't get disliked bombed at all.
Really makes you think.

>>10798223
Cause he doesn't bite, that is all.

>>10798122
ogey

>>10798223
Ras is not kuzuha

Jun and his fans kneel to Kuzuha. He's a broke shitter in comparison since none of his channels are monetized.

I apologize for triggering a MC slapfesr over kino history. Perhaps o should choose my shitpost material a little more carefully? This is twice now that I've completely derailed a numbers thread, the other time by responding to pomuposter with a snide NijiEN in response to a Pomu avatar post....

>>10798223
If you watched the stream it was Ras who did all that, and he didn't get dislikebombed but they did enter his chat to spam

>>10798295
Darusaka isn't chihiro either but that didn't stop them from spamming her stream now did it?

>>10798464
See>>10798497

>>10798532
Darusaka is a literal who to Junbabies.

>>10798497
>>10798532
>cucked jun
>>10798295

>>10797951
Hate to victim blame here but , its chi. Lots of other people killed jun, chi is just an easy target. She is very flammable. Jun just added more fuel is all.

>>10798599
Doesn't stop his literal underage kiddie fans from spamming up every vtuber involved in that game.

>>10798030
Hal helped boost jun to masters.

>>10798030
This is CR Ojiji's tournament, Hal only does vtuber tournaments (aside from small customs)

>>10798429
your to powerful anon

>>10795485
There are no nijiniggers here in the first place, at best it's a startnigger.

>>10798599
>can't stream with some of her friends unless it's a tourney because she kneels to antis
>can't be team leader because she kneels to antis
>can't have fun in post match games because she kneels to antis
being chii-chan is suffering

>When you are too much of a baggage your captain left you

October 7, Subaru 3rd anniversary
>PREDICTIONS?
Over/Under is on Ayame's 85k.

I say under 85k, over 75k. Even being the widely anticipated and postponed anniversary, 85k is a tough number to beat

>>10798957
>On a Thursday
>Probably no Marine
no way near Ayame's, despite Subaru's incline

>>10798937
This isn't the FPS livechat thread.

>>10796744
Shut up anon, make the fucking numberfag site.

>>10799331
Sorry, not enough Haachama activity, I suspect hell continue to be too drunk.

>>10798957
I am tempted to say 90k because this is the one that gets postponed and her 2nd anniv got cancelled too. Not ballsy enough to say 100k though, but I sure hope the duck proves me wrong. So yeah I'll put it at over 90k.
>>10799380
Dammit, god I wish I can understand the allure of the bottle. My feet kills me whenever I even think about it.

>>10799331
>>10799380
>Sorry, not enough Haachama activity, I suspect hell continue to be too drunk.
Yeah, that's not it. Work picked up speed, it will pick down next week and I'll be able to use spare time and maybe work time to do it

What will it take for you guys to not respond to bait?

>Gura-Kronii clips popping all over Youtube
Good chemistry, hopefully Kronii cease to be dumb and start streaming on her channel

>>10799658
man I walked in here and all the shitflinging is gone. They really do work on a schedule.
>>10799642
Don't worry about it anon, just goofing.

>>10799642
Ganbatte anon even if there's retards here, some of us still want to discuss numbers equally.

>>10799759
That's the Uno collab and it is way less of a Kronii clip than that thumbnail is showing it to be. Nerrev just decided that he is the Kronii clipper and has to put her front and center on his vids, despite her being second fiddle. And that clip is circulating because Gura is very good at what she does and works well with anyone.

>>10799766
>Don't worry about it anon, just goofing.
Me likewise but that's an itch I want to scratch so bad. Both the collecting part and the presenting part
>>10799813
>Ganbatte anon even if there's retards here, some of us still want to discuss numbers equally.
Remember to shitpost about numbers sometimes, it stave off the non numbers shitposters

>>10799835
I got a couple of others in my suggested too, from Micra interactions

342 posts with 48 posters.
Weekend thread is almost as bad as vnuma era (10:1 ratio).
Weekday ratio is around 5:1 or lower.

>>10800019
>348/48
>Closer to 10:1 than to 5:1
Numbers thread everyone

>>10800019
>numberfagging numberfags

>>10800065
Being above the fit BMI makes you overweight even if you are closer to fit than super fat.

>>10800225
Agreed
>weekday threads: fit
>weekend threads: overweight
>VNUMA era: obese

>>10800065
13% is closer to 10% than 20%

>>10800284
SHUSH!

>>10793747
I've seen this "tik tok peko" like a month ago already. are u gonna make a clown out of yourself and keep posting it the next month too?

>>10800667
There are retards posting about holo bubble for 7-8 months now. What makes you think this guy will stop ?

>>10800667
I will keep posting it everytime Pekora or Mori gain new subs while they're still close, just for you anon.

>>10794857
^
he is right y'know?

>>10800775
my name is Chris and thank u but i dont care except the little chuckle i get from how retarded u are xD

When is Kuzuha collabing with Jun? Surely, they wouldn't mind it because both respect each other's numbers, right. Jun and his only bully small vtubers.

>>10801169
*Jun and his fans

>>10801169
Jun basically called Kuzuha based, look forwards to a collab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2nGSZqsCYY

>>10801243
lmao it's funny Kuzuha refer Jun as Voldemort.
But no i don't think the collab will ever happen even if Anycolor didn't black list Jun like other company do

>>10801680
>even if Anycolor didn't black list Jun like other company do
why, is he a pedo or something

>Nijifags are collab beggars

>>10801836
>niggers do not come to the first world country
>woman should just stay in house
way too based he got black listed by TV TOKYO and KONAMI etc etc.

>>10801956
HOLY FUCKING BASED

>>10801956
>niggers do not come to the first world country
>woman should just stay in house
HOLY SHIT, I'M NOW A FULL BLOWN JUNFAG!

>Sorry Emperor Hal, my allegiance belongs to Jun now!

>>10801956
wait did he really said those? based Jun i kneel

>>10802185
can't make this shit up
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/d4cf9b6d1cadc8cead72e545794c1acfc51e6b6b

It's really gonna hit 2 million views in a few more hours, faster than almost all the songs.

2Snacks might try his luck again and if it pans out like this, become full time Gura animator.

>>10801956

>>10802275
>not only did he say it live, he said it on a sponsored shill stream
LOL

>>10801956
>>10802275
i fucking kneel

>Noel new outfit
PREDICTIONS?

Also: Hololive surely is milking alternative hairstyles for existing outfits for numbers, aren't they?
>ONE OF US! ONE OF US!

Over/under is on Korone 3D Live, 75k or so

I say over 75k, under 80k

>>10802472
I like to dress up my girls. I'm delighted that thousands of people share my hobby.

>>10802472
they cant milk 1 hour for reveals anymore so i say 80k

>>10802051
>https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/d4cf9b6d1cadc8cead72e545794c1acfc51e6b6b
>>10802163
>>10802296
>>10802447
well if u actually read that article u morons u would know he also discriminated against white people

>>10802472
it was proven recently that the most important things here are time and duration.

It's on a Monday, which is bad but, starts at 9PM JST, which has proven to be a bit better than 8PM on weekdays and if it's 1 hour it'll build enough momentum to... get to 80k, 100k? I don't even know anymore.
Her last costume reveals had very skewed numbers too, since 1 followed the most watched Holo evet at the time and the other was an adjustment call-in.

>>10802472
>alternative hairstyles for existing outfits
literally says new outfit there

>>10802984
How does that contradict what they're talking about?
Did anyone else say anything about that?

>>10802984
So? Still based.

>>10802742
> I'm delighted that thousands of people share my hobby.
More respect anon, it's tens of thousands, sometimes hundreds of thousands

>>10803049
do u have a brain disfunction?

>>10803135
Bro, stop imagining things.
Get your head out of your own ass.

>>10802984
>well if u actually read that article u morons u would know he also discriminated against white people
kek, even more based. I'll have to KNEEL EVEN HARDER

>>10803135
>>10803206
See?
What the fuck were you expecting to achieve with this dumb ass comment.
>>10802984
People know what they're kneeling for.

>>10802275
no wonder this guy gets 100k+ often holy based

>>10802984
And that raised my respect even more
HOWEVER I CAN ONLY KNEEL THIS HARD

>>10803135
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T CRITICISE WHITE PEOPLE ;-;

>>10803261
this is a number thread not a "I have crippling depression that spiraled out of control long ago thread rendering me retarded"