/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

post em
https://www.befunky.com/create/collage/

my depression goes away when my oshi is singing

sneep

>>10792914
>nyaru's birthday
>no nyaru op

Attention all Vtubers! This is your new mom speaking!
Throw away all pride. Throw away all pride and just pander. Pander to the lowest common denominator. Eat chocolate bunnies if you have to. That is my advice. Drink breast milk, yeah, just drink breast milk. Just throw away your pride and drink the breast milk.
Thank you for your attention.

I miss her already.

>20 hour stream
>not once did she stop talking or lose energy
HOW DOES SHE DO IT?

>>10793140
>figure I can focus on other chuubas in the meanwhile
>neko's internet fucked for next week

>>10793167
Oh schnikes!

>>10793167
Oh schnikes!

I hope you guys have your horror games picked out for the month. I'm probably only going to play a few of these games, but wanted to post my list to give other chuubas an idea on what they can add to their schedules.

>>10793452
Hype to see Legacy of Kain. I'm also looking to do a Dino Crisis playthrough if I can get that HD fan project running right.

>>10793452
>Eternal Darkness
PARGON PARGON PARGON

>>10793452
It's too bad Kuon sucks to play

yoro!

Beatani live with vt divegrass!
https://youtu.be/NeG3CnXzrkY

Wise is live with Darkwood
https://www.twitch.tv/wisetheai

https://www.twitch.tv/strategoslucianus
It's praise time!

for me its the bat

>>10794654
Nice. Did she get to watch the VOD of the last match?

>>10795251
no i guess she watched it in her free time

>>10792957

>>10794654
https://youtu.be/kyJRrkdFpG4
NEW BEATANI LINK STREAM CRASHED

>>10794005
Its not that bad, but then again I never made it that far into the game to begin with.
>>10793543
Its been on my mind to play that game for a while now especially Blood Omen 1.
>>10793660
Good times.

Thanks for coming by the stream, hope you had a good time.
Also, reminder that NO GODS NO MASTERS is objectively a Deus Ex ending.

>>10795612
>sings in tune to her goal horn
kino

>>10792957

One day I'll be on a three by three...

>>10796201
based

>>10792957
I maintain my original 3x3.

For those of you willing to watch male chuubas, what do you want out of them?

Saffa demon SOMA
https://youtu.be/FR985NiUsgE

>>10796583
Don't be cynical, care about what you're doing. It's such a bummer when someone is just playing a backlog game or not having fun.

>>10792957

streaming some lost in vivo for the first time cause spooktober!

twitch.tv/ripskip

>>10796583
acting. i want acting. i don't want to watch some 24 year old dude raging at a video game and just "being your bro" i want someone to actually have an act. Kongou takes it too far. 2/3rd Kongou would be perfect.

>>10796583
Be passionate about at least one (1) thing. Doesn't matter if it's stupid, embarrassing, or uninteresting to the general masses. Actually show that you genuinely care about something and be willing to ramble about this thing for extended periods of time if not stopped. You don't even really need to be that interesting yourself as long as you are able to be passionate about that one thing you really care about.

I love this Wiggly ball

>>10796583
same thing I want out of female chuubas, to be entertained. I'm not here to gosling or to coom, I just wanna watch someone have a good time and help me have a good time too. Just the usual basic advice of interacting with chat, not leaving dead air for no good reason, don't just backlog stream etc.

>>10796750
Yes, this exactly. Too many male chuubas who have an outlandish design with no personality to back it up.

>>10796544
Mouse lover

>>10796599
Forma de humana

Saffa collab!
https://www.twitch.tv/halbernacht

>>10797279
Minnie mouse was one of my first crushes. Old habits die hard

>>10792957

Is there an OPSEC guide? And I am not talking about that meme dog guide but an ACTUAL guide.

>>10792957
Oshi in the middle, the rest are entertaining

>>10797582
it’s actually a good guide even if the writer doesn’t follow it at all

>>10797582
https://pastebin.com/2mkc8x9P
this is the /asp/ one

>>10797582
the /asp/ one is better than his anyway it's in their OP but I'll repost it for you

https://pastebin.com/2mkc8x9P

If /wvt/ became a brothel, who would you pick?

>>10795398
Mine is pretty much the same. Incl. Center

>>10797988
>pick
fuckin' degenerate, i'm just here for food

>>10797988
naps with Shimada

>>10798095
Kimi ga...

>>10797988
Junii

>>10797988
who would be the madam?

>>10797850
>>10797851
>separate windows profile
that's actually pretty smart

>>10798335
Yeah if you're willing to do the extra steps but it's extremely annoying especially if you're doing stream games.

Surprise Stream [EN]

https://www.twitch.tv/natsumi_moe

How gift subs even work on twitch. I got a sub from a vtuber that i literally don't follow or even watched

>>10798298

>>10798668
They're very good about hiding their algo, it's influenced by a lot of factors. It seems like you're less likely to get a sub for a channel you watch often and are likely to sub to with your own money too.

>>10792957

>>10798668
You can now use their emotes. That's pretty much it.

>>10798702
>It seems like you're less likely to get a sub for a channel you watch often
I guess that explains why I have like six gift subs to channels I watched for less than half an hour but never get any for the ones I watch all the time

Everyday until shimada comes back!!

BOOBA

Forgot to link
https://www.twitch.tv/josabelledemon

Saruei is live! Today she's playing The Joy of Creation, a Five Nights at Freddy's fan game that's apparently quite well regarded in the community. Should be fun.

https://www.twitch.tv/saruei

https://www.twitch.tv/nyaruchuuu
nyaru time too!

>>10799605
Nevermind booba. This is the part I live for.
God bless Josa.

>>10799756

which /here/chuuba would break down into tears if you just hugged them tightly, told them it was okay, and just stood there together in silence for a bit?

>>10799844
Most of the m*les

>>10799756
Nyaru OLEV!

>>10792914
Femboy dog.
https://www.twitch.tv/coledingo

give me a /vt/ copypasta or meme to read

GLASSES

>>10799911
did you already do the big bill hell's copypasta?

>>10795612
BEATANI BACK WITH DIVEGRASS FOR THE REST OF YAHS MATCHES

>>10799974
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K66wOKt2K2I
LINK

>>10798855
That's been my experience, but it's all guesswork

>>10799946
https://voca.ro/146bBxVO7G6u
i have now

>>10793167
abuses Adderall

The Bag is still doing Pantheon after 12 hours...
https://www.twitch.tv/paperbag_ch

>>10799844
Shadow is confirmed /here/...

>>10799844
i teared up a tiny bit just thinking about the scenario so probably me

>>10799974
Why is she streaming /vsj+/ vs /pcclg/?

>>10799844
me

to the anon who was bummed about not playing phasmophobia together, ill be playing it again later tonight! hopefully we'll be able to play together!

the lobby was actually open to everyone last night, but i guess I didn't hover over the password long for you to remember it ;u; that was my bad

hopefully you can make it this time!

>>10800404
it’s only until yah is live since she went live early

https://twitter.com/SpacerHaywireCh/status/1444736098161160196
Titty mech

>>10800576
I want to play with Beri!

How did nemu and those other vtubers change their usernames? I know a partnered streamer and support told her she can't change her name to an inactive username and have to use the regular name change method

>>10800883
How many chuubas have done this challenge?

>>10801302
Fuck I love artchuubas who do this kind of art of themselves.
seep had one of these done for her.

Any good chuubas /here/?

>>10801366
You have to stop...

>>10801366
This man WILL oshihen your oshi
Can he be stopped?

>>10801366
please watch my vods.....

Imagine dropping ary..

>>10801480
Fuck, it was a reply for this >>10801302

>>10801480
flat chested version is such a blessing

Would I get cancelled if I did the breast milk meme but make it cock milk if I'm m*le

>>10801578
No, do it

>>10801578
it’s already been done by junni the hedgehog boy

>>10801509
I don't have to imagine because. I did.

>>10801673
link?

>>10801302
Vimes pulls it off pretty well.

>>10801578
Depends on how offensive or innocence your character are.

>>10801443
Busy week. Maybe this weekend, Bodega.
Mebe.

>>10801438
my oshi is cooperate so he wont

>>10801736
https://twitter.com/juniichannel/status/1444345496617857025

>>10795398
>>10796201
>>10796544
>>10797828
>>10798709
Hello based Alice Sawyer enjoyers.
It's murderloli art stream time
https://www.twitch.tv/alicesawyer

>>10801960
oh that's fine. change the caption to something about being out of oat milk and whether you'd like nut milk instead.

Am I doing the meme thing right

>>10802527
Make her bigger, it's what she'd want.

>>10802527
Can't you remove the bikini?

>>10803098
with mods, but I don't have the nude mod because I don't want to accidentally have it on during streams

>>10802527
Eira is canonically very short, so make her as short as possible but keep the T&A proportions

>>10802527
>no tail
How am I supposed to grab it with out her permission now?

>>10798095
that would get me off, for sure

>>10799844
definitely the males

>>10801366
I just want to repeat that your taste is absolute garbage, you oshi-abandoning fuck

>>10799844
>>10803769
Yeah, definitely me

It's sunday let's see some schedules

Peak vanilla taste.

>>10803835
Who's your oshi? Pray please tell

>>10804079
>top right

abayo

>>10804079
Brother. The only odd one out to me is Nyaru, and maybe Picky, depending on your definition of vanilla.
>>10804137
Nina.

>>10804176

>>10804235
When will you oshihen to my oshi?

>>10804235
You cheeky cunt

>>10801356
But who is towering above her?

>>10804305
me
t. 5'7

>>10804279
>>10804282
Yeah, das rite. Das jus happen

>>10804305
>long legs
>no arms
There can only one thing.

>>10804347
I didn't know he had three legs...

>>10804337
why did you drop rose

>>10804337
Nina will know about this

>>10804176
Nyaru is pretty vanilla.
Picky also. I would rule Lily as fringe vanilla.

>>10804557
Micra

>>10804626
She can address her grievances here. Oh wait ;^)

>>10804663
Oh, so vanilla as in broad appeal. Nothing wrong with that. Lily is vanilla as long as you don't overthink it and aren't an anti-loli puritan fuck.

>>10804684
>that time when her schedule was basically just minecraft
Understandable. She's been branching out since then thankfully, but it's still her comfort game. I would've suggested to check out her yakuza VODs but ha ha ha ha ha

Wait why are you here? Weren't you in >>>/trash/ ? no offense btw, just curious

>>10805161
I honest to god don't fucking know anymore.

>>10805161
Just want to spread the joys of the way of oshihen.

>>10805161
Most people are, that's why this thread is so slow. However, /vt/ is a good place to get an outsider's perspective and maybe new people to come in.

https://twitter.com/heavenrendtv/status/1444770121168265218?s=20

looks they're actually doing stuff now

>>10805161
I use both

>>10805161
please post here

>>10805393
What w/vt/ needs is some spunk but that might upset the powers to be

Outsider chuubas want badboys that's why most end up back there. They already got goodboys in their discord servers

>>10805647
>some spunk but that might upset the powers to be
predictable most of the "spunk" that is looking to do that are just a bunch of 22 year old asocial males who talk big but don't actually know what they're doing, so they end up falling in with the rest of the /here/chuubas in irrelevancy.

>>10805161
I'm here for any small chance to expose my oshi to passersby!

>>10805720
You can be snarky as you want but the reality is this thread is dead and serves only as a link repository .

>>10805412
Do they even have good numbers?

>>10805914
and the back is just anons talking about wanting to get pegged so he's not exactly wrong.

>>10805914
I'd rather be here than in a dumpsterfire thread of retards posting diaper porn

>>10805945
km0d0 has some pretty solid indie level numbers
https://www.twitter.com/km0d0
https://www.twitch.tv/km0d0
a handful of /here/chuubas beat her in numbers, but she's a lot of fun. in a diferrent timeline she would have been /here/

>>10805945
KK's sister averages at around 50

>>10806079
too bad her mods are retarded

EARLY LIVE in a few minutes because I wanna do some karaoke before horror hehe

come join me to finish my horror endurance stream!

https://www.twitch.tv/ladybug_beri

>>10805978
>>10806036
this is my first week here. Most of the posts here are complaining and whining. If you enjoy that, whatever. You do you.

>>10806212
enjoy your diaper porn

Schedule time!

>>10806238
Enjoy being dead

>>10806212
I thought it was just a link repository.

>>10806115
every time i hear this it's followed by "all i did was say nigger in chat or spam her discord"

>>10806281
I will, diaper porn fetishist

>>10806242
>weird al karaoke
oh shit

>>10806316
>t. mod
everyone hates you

>>10806323
That's actually a chuuba posting diapers

>>10806316
kek

>>10806364
I don't care who the fuck it is, I don't want to see it

>>10806079
>km0d0 has some pretty solid indie level numbers
The problem is that she isn't an indie and is part of an org, so these are pretty bad with how long they've been around vs Cyberlive or other orgs who haven't even been around as long

>>10806383
Your loss, Normie.

>>10806391
>The problem is that she isn't an indie and is part of an org, so
go suck your own dick in your numbers thread, holobrony

>>10806445
>my loss for not seeing degenerate diaperfag posts
yeah okay

Finally awake and had my coffee again after that darkwood stream, jesus christ how did I go until 6 AM

Looking fashy there, Aria.

>>10806079
>in a diferrent timeline she would have been /here/
complain to her manager next time he collabs with a /here/ chuuba

>>10806587
thanks!

>>10806343
I'm about as excited to do that as the opera karaoke, if I'm honest. Fucking love Weird Al.

>>10806587
fashy? more like flashy.

>>10792957
maru will always be my oshi. Only one isn't /here/

>>10806898
the only one not here is eira
CAUSE SHES GROUNDED AGAIN

>>10806898
Can you sell me on Maroony?

>>10807050
cute gamer rrat with a nice, asmr-y voice that likes to play retro kusoge

>>10794005
>>10795745
I have to suffer through it anyway because it's fromsoft, but is kuon really that bad? I read the wikipedia article and it said people had grievances w/the gameplay

>>10807140
It's pretty bad, I'd say on the same level of Drakengard's ground levels

>>10806486
numbers were responded to with numbers. theres vetweeters with more viewers than heavenrend

https://twitter.com/Clipsy_chan/status/1444402672170323968

Mocca and Randon are (still) right.

I still think the youtube algo will get in the way of things as it always will.

>>10807435

>>10807435
>YouTube has a lot of great features that Twitch doesn’t have, and with an actual functional algorithm, there’s a chance of getting discovered on YouTube that doesn’t exist on Twitch.

Give me 1 reason I should keep reading after this retarded shit. The main benefit to twitch is discoverability.

>>10807435
don't care
didn't ask
plus i bet you are a vtuber

>>10792957
I love these girls
Oshi centered ofc

>>10807435
>YT good for long term growth
vtubers are fucking mayflies. They don't have TIME for long-term growth. Even the corpos are graduating one after the other.

>>10807140
I only played it for maybe 30 or 45 minutes, so I can't honestly say much about it, nut I liked the setting and atmosphere. If you don't care about spoilers maybe check out some gameplay trailers just to get an idea about how it plays.

>>10807435
Randon was kinda retarded and took the long way around, but it worked out for him in the end. he's only able to say what he does because he was one of the early ones who made it. there are multple dozens of males on youtube who will never be relevant but still spam their going live tweets on twitter and links to stream on reddit.

the best way for indies to grow right now is to stream on twitch and grow a community, while making Youtube their repository for all long lasting content beyond Twitch's 2 week archive. this way you can grow both presences and the switch away from Twitch and over to Youtube will be a lot smoother.

jumping ship without doing any prep work is retarded and has always been retarded.

>>10800190
ah no, i didn't mean the original:
FUCK YOU /vt/!
IF YOU'RE DUMB ENOUGH TO WATCH SMALL VTUBERS THIS WEEKEND, YOU'RE A BIG ENOUGH SCHMUCK TO COME TO WESTERN VTUBERS GENERAL!
SCHIZOS!
GIRLS THAT BREAK DOWN!
M*LES!
IF YOU THINK YOUR GOING TO FIND AN OSHI IN THIS THREAD,
YOU CAN KISS MY ASS!
IT'S OUR BELIEF THAT YOU'RE SUCH A STUPID MOTHERFUCKER THAT YOU'LL FALL FOR THIS BULLSHIT
GUARANTEED!
IF YOU FIND A BETTER GIRL: SHOVE IT UP YOUR UGLY ASS!
YOU HEARD US RIGHT: SHOVE IT UP YOUR UGLY ASS!
BRING YOUR SUBS!
BRING YOUR GAME CODES!
BRING YOUR WIFE!
WE'LL FUCK HER! THAT'S RIGHT! WE'LL FUCK YOUR WIFE!
BECAUSE AT /wvt/, YOU'RE FUCKED SIX WAYS FROM SUNDAY!
TAKE A HIKE TO /wvt/!
HOME OF CHUUBA SHITTING, THAT'S RIGHT, CHUUBA SHITTING. HOW DOES IT WORK?
IF YOU CAN CRITICIZE 6 CHUUBAS IN THE SAME THREAD AND NOT GET CALLED A SCHIZO, YOU GET TO FUCK YOUR OSHI.
DON'T WAIT, DON'T DELAY, DON'T FUCK WITH US OR WE'LL RIP YOUR NUTS OFF!
ONLY AT /wvt/, THE ONLY THREAD THAT TELLS YOU TO FUCK OFF.
HURRY UP, ASSHOLE!
THIS EVENT ENDS THE MINUTE YOU FOLLOW A CHUUBA AND YOU BETTER POST IN CHAT OR YOU'RE A DEAD MOTHERFUCKER.
GO TO HELL.
WESTERN VTUBER GENERAL
/vt/'s FILTHIEST AND EXCLUSIVE HOME OF THE MEANEST SONS OF BITCHES IN THE CHUUBA COMMUNITY, GUARANTEED!!

>>10807050
Maroony plays a lot of games ranging from old stuff to more modern (mid 2000s to early 2010s) games. Her major selling point is her massive game variety which you can easily see if you just go to her youtube channel or her vods. Not many chuubas out there play the stuff she does and have as much fun doing so as she does, and the variety keeps you guessing but she beats most of the games so you aren't just blueballed and the person isn't just gamehopping for the sake of it.

>>10807536
>The main benefit to twitch is discoverability.
[citation needed]
twitch's discoverability is nonexistent. this has been pointed out by experienced streamers and industry professionals who do this shit for a living.

>>10807435
>just be lucky bro the algo will kick in one day bro you'll get that viral video bro
fuck right off

>>10807435
no, they're both fucking retarded. Youtube is fucking ass if you play anything with a decent resolution since it will be compressed to shit. Uploads are fucking shit since they get compressed even more, and randomly fail. Combine all that garbage with no interactivity, shit algos, shadowbanning, why the fuck would you ever use youtube at all

>>10807675
Going viral almost never results in retention either

>>10792957
i guess i like "comfy" streams

>>10807435
I hope more people switch to youtube because their audiences aren't going to follow them and it'll cause everyone to incline who doesn't have brain worms

>>10807670
>twitch's discoverability is nonexistent.
You're so fucking stupid. The raid feature alone helps more than praying Susan will bless you. Learn to network idiot.

Dropping schedule, the gpuless gaming idea is essentially taking a PC without a dedicated graphics card, smashing it against games and reviewing the results. Hoping it's something a bit different! I'll also be trying to beat one of the 3 main campaigns of Hitman in a single sitting too

>>10807670
must be true, that fucking long ass list of names of vtubers in my recommended doesn't actually exist

>>10807592
Of course they have the time, they just need to stay committed.
>>10807670
Raiding alone is better than any sort of discoverability YouTube can offer, raids can be seen as an endorsement from one streamer to another so it's more likely to bring in regulars than some mysterious algorithm.

>>10807701
>Youtube is fucking ass if you play anything with a decent resolution since it will be compressed to shit.
...that's called Transcoding and it's done automatically depending on how shit your internet connection to Youtube's server is. this one is on your shit internet, anon.
>Uploads are fucking shit since they get compressed even more
what uploads? vods are recorded at the exact same bitrate you stream them in. plus that's how you keep chat logs. uploaded videos never have chat data attached to them.
>shadowbanning
don't be a fascist, simple as.

>>10807599
>he's only able to say what he does because he was one of the early ones who made it

anon he debut in January, that's not "early" at all. He's doing well because he's actually a good streamer, good at talking, and good at creating content in general.

>>10807435
Every single chuuba who has switched from Youtube to Twitch has done better in the long run.

>>10807755
>The raid feature alone
this has literally never helped anyone. 100 man raid, they all disappear after the first 2 minutes. you get a few pity follows but how many of them return as regular viewers? 0

>>10807794
how many of them do you actually watch?

>>10807231
don't know muchabout drakenguard but considering it is hardly talked about for its gameplay I'll take that has a harrowing omen

>>10807598
spoilers bad, will just have to go in blind and suffer for the content

>>10807804
>upload a VOD in 1080p
>gets compressed to 720p
>upload a VOD in 720p
>gets compressed to 360p
fuck off retard

>>10807851
you're literally just lying, picky's main moderator only found her via a raid for example

>>10807851
half my current follow list is from recommended

>>10807435
If you think I'm going to watch my oshi go back to the platform filled with children and BRs you can straight up go fuck yourself.

>>10807851
>>this has literally never helped anyone.
Objectively, critically, literally, patently, empirically not true,

>>10807851
>how many of them do you actually watch?
The goalposts...and NTA but the answer is more than the zero (0) indie chuubas I've been recommended on jewtube.

>>10807878
You just need the kind of brain that can handle tedious, janky games. if you played the original kings field games you should be OK

>>10807851
>this has literally never helped anyone.
90% of the streamers I watch on Twitch were found because of raids. When was the last time the magic algorithm brought you to a stream that you became a regular on Youtube?

>MM-M-M-M-M-MUH RAIDS
if anything Twitch is good at hyping up short term meaningless moments. even /wvt/ has the raid brainworm stuck in their heads. bravo twitch you've brainwashed even 4chan.

next you're gonna tell me that chuuba viewers just need to spend money to Recommendation Boost with Twitch's new pay for views feature. and because youtube doesn't have it, that makes twitch better.

>>10807878
Suffering is the best form of content.

>>10807670
Twitch's discoverability just purely based off of the algorithm is not as good, but Raids have helped more people than any algorithm. If you are entertaining you will benefit from a raid, if you aren't then you won't. It's part of why networking connections are so important. You won't and will never get that on Youtube.

>>10807978
"muh X" doesn't really help your case here anon.

>>10807878
The gameplay of Drakengard is just a musou game but worse. I think I actually became even more retarded after the playthrough

YUBICRAFT WON THE DIVEGRASS GUYS, SOMEONE BRICK GAME CHADS PLEASE COME TO THE SERVER AND REVIVE THE /wvt/ COLONY

>>10808025
no, I hate minecraft shit

>>10807961
>When was the last time the magic algorithm brought you to a stream that you became a regular on Youtube?
literally all of Hololive. pushed through youtube's recs via clipper channels you fucking retard.
>>10807995
>Twitch's discoverability just purely based off of the algorithm
yeah, that 12 view chuuba #512 playing genshin impact is going to be caught by the algorithm one day and make it big, right?

>>10807961
>When was the last time the magic algorithm brought you to a stream that you became a regular on Youtube?
Yeah I can't remember ever finding a youtuber via youtube algorithm. The only youtuber indie streamers have all ben advertising on other websites (here or twitter usually)
>>10807978
Raids are objectively helpful and a major part of why people switched to twitch. You can just look at the chuubas who went from youtube to twitch and immediately had a bigger audience and inclined faster in a month than they did on the entire time on youtube. Eira, Coqui and Rummy and Meat immediately come to mind.

>>10807670
Twitch's discovery is far better than Youtube, and I don't have to deal with middle-aged women asking for relationship advice or curses and who dont even know what vtubers are on Twitch.

>>10807851
>>The raid feature alone
>this has literally never helped anyone

Krimbo, Picky, SILVERVALE, IRON MOUSE, hell even myself. I'm not nearly as big but raids have brought in so many people who still retain and in all honesty I don't think I'm all that great. To actually keep a raid you need to be entertaining, why do you think the larger streamers who get raided keep so much more then someone raiding 5k viewers to a 40 viewer channel?

>>10808057
>hololive
you're literally proving his point you retarded holofaggot

Problem with Twitch is the circlejerk cannibalism.
Just see the tale of two chuubas: Nina and Koopa
One strived to better and went outside the circlejerk, the other didn't.

fucking sheep, all of you. Twitch is on its way out and chuubas will migrate to Youtube by next year. if you pay attention to the metrics and what the algorithm can do, youtube has already won. screencap this faggots, you know i'm right.

>>10807978
>next you're gonna tell me that chuuba viewers just need to spend money to Recommendation Boost with Twitch's new pay for views feature. and because youtube doesn't have it, that makes twitch better.

All that does is put you on the recommended page which I don't really think many people look at. I doubt it'll help you get more than a few clicks from Twitch newbies

>>10808057
I said streams, not clips of the most popular vtubers in existence.

may as well post my schedule

>>10807953
I did and I loved it so I should be in the clear

>>10807988
truly it is the only content worth producing, only suffering has artistic merit

>>10808023
here's hoping I never have to play it because musou is not my wheelhouse, bad musou sounds even worse

>>10807717
huh
i've never thought of picky's streams as comfy but i probably haven't watched too many of them...

>>10808057
>literally all of Hololive. pushed through youtube's recs via clipper channels you fucking retard.

and how many indies has it shown you besides the top most people who are connected to people like Snuffy or Haruka?

damn, remember talking about vtubers and streams instead of where you watch them?
me neither.

>>10808111
Twitch has a shit ton of problems but it's still better than youtube the worst possible platform you could stream on as an indie who wants to grow.

>>10808131
More than half all chuubas won't exist by next year.

What’s keeping your oshi from making it? Why is she sub10 average viewers?

>>10808202
and the ones that do will be smart enough to realize that twitch is a dead end and nothing more than a launching pad at best.

>>10808210
Doesn't do social media reps.

>>10808131
> if you pay attention to the metrics
Oh trust me, I do

I can't fucking stand it anymore. Fuck you Eira, you manipulative piece of shit. I see you for what you really are. I know you've been deflowered. I know that you've been touched by a man. I can tell by your unusual increase in confidence recently that you've been fucked. You've been rawdogged. You've probably even sucked dick by now, and then you speak into the mic with cum-stained lips during streams

I will never forgive you. I will always remember that you took advantage of my love. Your virginity was meant to never be lost. Just come out and admit it already you WHORE. You hurt me, so this is how I'll hurt you back. I'll make sure everyone is aware of the obvious truth that's in front of them

>>10808210
The opposite of >>10808230 ; doesn't do streaming reps but constantly tweets

>>10808223
Unless I see evidence I'm not buying it. All pro-YT arguments are entirely hypothetical or based on exceptions, not strategies that can be replicated. That, and I've already watched my oshi and too many others suffer through YT for over half a year with no growth at all. The holo phenomenon exists entirely inside the holo bubble. Even Kizuna Ai is dead in the water on her home platform even though she's as active as she can possibly be.

Link me some Youtube indies that you watch there that are actually growing. Bonus points if it isn't here /here/ chuuba.

>>10808223
While I think Twitch is currently the better option for streaming, Youtube may turn out to be better in the long run, so you should be trying to play both platforms, even if you're only uploading clips and shitpost videos to Youtube it could potentially help in the long run.

How come no one talks about the Swedish Viking woman here? Her cooking stream was fun

>>10808200
That's the problem, a lot become complacent because they've tasted Twitch numbers.

>>10808266
>deleted
Shoulda saved it for the other thread dude.

is nyaru playing with a trackpad or something?

>>10792957

>>10808237
>youtube gaming
nice cherrypicking of unrelated stats

>>10807978
Why is it that all the successful indies are on Twitch then? It's because that's where the audience for indies is. Even Randon who I see as a great example of what you can do if you really push Youtube does better on Twitch, and if he stayed he'd do better with half the fucking work.

Did we forget Corpse's "test" where all her Twitch streams were infinitely better for viewership than her Youtube ones?

>>10808372
Alfi? She seems alright. Some anons had a rrat-based issue with her some time ago and unfortunately she fell for the selfie meme, so it's easy to hate her here. But she's a Kitanya-femgosling and that makes her ok in my book.

>>10808354
>if you're only uploading clips and shitpost videos to Youtube
That's all I use YouTube for but I'm debating if I want to put my vods on it because I don't my YouTube channel to just be vods overshadowing my other content.

we postan schedules?

>>10808345
>Youtube indies that you watch there
easy!
>that are actually growing
F*CK

>>10808440
>Even Randon
Even Randon said youtube will be better in the long run.

>>10808210
I think mines starting to give up. She’s tried a lot of different things but I think the main problem is that she’s just unlucky. She gets sick when she’s going to do collabs, she never gets raided, etc. I’m

>>10808440
so number fagging?

>>>10807978
Youtube gaming is where a majority of the viewers and streamers are, of course I'm picking the relevant numbers. Where is your chuuba going to stream, Sports?

>>10808345
Ebi?
Also I have a couple more but they already graduated and probably gonna be nijien

>>10808440
>Did we forget Corpse's "test" where all her Twitch streams were infinitely better for viewership
debut numbers are always better than the average, anon.

>>10808450
I'd suggest a second channel for vods, your average viewer isn't going to care, but it's good to save vods for the sake of archiving and potential future use for clips/edits.

>>10808497
that's literally the topic retard. which site is better for chuubas to stream. "better" being "which site gives them better numbers". do you need it spelled out for you?

>>10808532
Not to mention the amount of chuubas in chat

>>10808345
https://www.youtube.com/c/UshioEbiCh
That's it. That's all I got. And even she hasn't really grown past like 200-300 while everyone else who can get these numbers is slowly climbing towards 400-500-1k+.

>>10808546
>"better" being "which site gives them better numbers".
short term numbers mean nothing when you can't even break 30ccv

>>10808532
She streamed there for a week.

>>10808372
People here have a hate boner for her because of rrats. I don't mind her personally, but I haven't watched her in a long time though

>>10808581
and every single fucking /here/chuuba muted tabbed in her streams to try and boost numbers so she stayed on twitch. try a full experiment for at least 2 weeks like Randon, or ideally a solid month.

>>10808345
Beatani, and that's it

>>10808570
>while everyone else who can get these numbers is slowly climbing towards 400-500-1k+.
source?

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=vtuber&sp=CAMSAkAB
look at all these successful vtubers on youtube!

>>10808437
unrelated? These are livestreaming numbers.Youtube gaming is where chuubas stream. It's what Holo and niji stream under as well.

>>10808602
What are these said rrats? Provide me them, schizo poster.

>see the front desk is getting pretty active
>see what the discussion is all about
o-oh..

>>10808450
You can have a dedicated channel for vods and another for clips/shitposts/other stuff. I keep being too lazy to do it (secondary channels) but it's good having an archive. Even if you don't envision needing one now, it's just good practice to have just in case.

>>10807536
lol. there are no features but theres one thing i like on youtube and thats the higher bitrate allowance. some games just need those extra bits to look good

>>10808705
To be fair, it's the closest thing to manager discussion we've had in a bit. Just because it's heated doesn't mean it's not constructive. I welcome this change of pace. Come join?

>>10808542
>>10808733
I thought about doing that too only thing is is that I don't want 3 youtube accounts, but I'll probably end up setting up later tonight just to see how well Twitchs export option works.

I like how we're all arguing over something a TBA said

>>10808783
if it would own the TBA harder, i would have posted a selfie.

>>10806756
Wait, who is that chuuba you are using?

>>10796794
This was based, didn't expect a new ball at such short notice

>>10808783
I'll just never understand youtube shills. Yeah twitch sucks too but it's the only real option unless you don't care about growth.

>>10808669
He need not be a schizo poster for merely pointing out the existence of rrats, since rrats need not be true.
There used to be an anon who sold rrats of her being a ruthless cloutchaser who shittalked anyone with fewer numbers than her. Posted discord screencaps and claimed her saying things in voice chats. Whether these screencaps were true or not was never confirmed, and her actual on stream behavior and doesn't seem to align with the rumors. Still, because she gave vague sjw impressions around her debut, anons were happy to believe them, and that's about as far as that went.

>>10808814
anon...

>>10808745
I'm just glossing over it all and it just seems that it's "Twitch is good for short term discoverability in terms of raids, so you should network with people to try and have more people raid into you", but at the same time "Youtube is better for long term staying power, so creating content there is good (i.e. clips and stuff)". Or in other words, things we have known all along

>>10808783
Man I never even noticed that. It really is all just hypotheticals.
I would be more open to YT as a platform if it didn't objectively treat all the chuubas I've been rooting for like absolute shit.

>>10807670
even to a viewer twitch feels far more community based than youtube. all you have on youtube are the random recommended videos in the corner

>>10808914
>Or in other words, things we have known all along
Too bad not a lot of chuubas actually practice this stuff.

>>10808828
>it's the only real option unless you don't care about growth.
see, the retarded take that /wvt/ constantly circlejerks with is treating this is as some dumb "us vs them" fight. the chuuba who will succeed will do so because they use both to their fullest potential. but the end game will always be Youtube first, Twitch second.

once you've grown, youtube becomes your hub of content for all your viewers. you think Twitch holds onto 10 months worth of VODs? the more you create, the better you will do on Youtube. and Twitch becomes just a special event where you go live now and then. which you can already do with youtube.

>>10808919
Youtube is really bad for indie streaming in general. Even if you're like an IRL streamer painting minis or coding or whatever twitch is still way better.

Youtube COULD be a great competitor to twitch but they just don't seem to care.
>>10808954
Name 5 indie youtube streamers that get more than 300 concurrent viewers.

>>10808814
it's pochi! she recently got a live2D model and it's amazing
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC22BVlBsZc6ta3Dqz75NU6Q

>>10808914
>Youtube is better for long term staying power
See, that is different from long term GROWTH, which is what that TBA claimed YT to have. The message peddled here was that YT is better for the long run, when the supposed strategy to actually experience growth there is to pray to the algorithm instead of following strategies. It's terrible advice peddled by someone who isn't qualified to give it.

But chuubas SHOULD also work on non-streaming content, which is what YT can be used for. It's the streaming itself which is very unrewarding there.

>>10808999
>show me the 1% argument
nice attempt to move goalposts. 1% chuubas with over 300 ccvs don't matter in this discussion. we know we're all talking about /here/chuubas and /here/adjacents who are all sitting at 50 or below. there's no point in talking about exceptions when the discussion is about the main rule.

>>10809064
Pochi really knows what men want

>>10809074
What's a healthy number? Can you name 4 more chuubas that even have Randon numbers?

>>10807755
>Twitch has no discoverability
>THAT'S FUCKING STUPID LEARN TO NETWORK
Since I'm sure the irony is lost on you I'll type this out slowly so you can understand: The fact that you'd have to rely on networking means there's no actual discoverability features. You giant ding-dong.

>>10809094
>What's a healthy number?
>tell me an arbitrary number so i can derail the conversation around what a "make it" number is instead of the original discussion point about Youtube vs Twitch for long term growth
stop trying to move goalposts faggot

>>10809074
The discussion is about chuubas in general, it isn't just about /here/s. Didn't Krimbo and the other two girls whose name I forgot start on Youtube and immediately move and do significantly better, and then keep that audience and continue to grow? Would they have that on Youtube ?Has ANYONE Had that on Youtube?

>>10809122
You need to network even harder on youtube retard since the only way anyone is seeing your stream is getting linked from another website.

>>10809122
you've already been proven wrong with this retarded argument

>>10809122
>The fact that you'd have to rely on networking means there's no actual discoverability features.
THANK YOU. At least there's one anon in this fucking circlejerk who understands this. Jesus christ almighty.

>>10809130
Stop saying I'm moving the goalposts if you can't define where the goalpost is in the first place

>>10807851
>>10808057
thanks for proving everyone's point holofag

>>10809122
You need to rely on networking on Youtube as well, except that networking won't matter because you aren't getting help from anyone else on Youtube. Even Randon's networking hasn't paid off on Youtube nearly as well as it would have (and has) on Twitch

>>10809122
>no actual discoverability features
a literal vtuber tag and an algo that works?

>>10809069
>growth vs staying power
Didn't even realise that my choice of words would be so apt for the conversation. But yeah, I imagine that once you are able to "grab" an audience on YT, it might be easier to retain them because your stuff might be more aggressively recommended to them. But in terms of having your stuff shown to NEW people, it is indeed a coinflip, and it's not like networking or other stuff will help overcome that

>>10809169
Then that means there's none on Youtube either since you've got to network even harder, except that the audience and streamers you're networking to (Reddit, Twitter, Tiktok, wherever the fuck else) all watch their indies on Twitch with a significantly smaller percentage opting to do it on Youtube.

>>10809217
What even is the algo solution for vtubers? Hope someone types in "ENVtuber" manually into search and Susan blesses you?

>T-THERE'S NO DISCOVERABILITY ON TWITCH

>>10809217
what algo? it has never been in twitch's interest to push vtubers. they always pushing the biggest names with thousands of viewers already because they make money off ad impressions and dono hype trains. and tags are useless if you're not showing up the top 6-8 squares depending on your monitor size. there's literally a reason why >we call it DUMPSTER DIVING when >we sort by lowest first.

>>10807851
just don't raid shitty streamers. i have discovered many nice streamers with the help of that feature so it definitely works but you have to know how to use it. for example it probably won't work too well if you raid someone that has a very different target audience, chances of your viewers being looking for that kind of content is very low

>>10809092
expected nothing less from one of my favorite doujin artist

>>10809290
Looks like a lot of vtubers to me
>>10809280

>>10809290
see
>>10809280
It used to do this even before the vtuber tag existed. Once you actually start watching vtubers and sort by recommended it works wonders. It only sorts from high to low if you specifically tell it to or if you're so new that it has no data to work on, in which case it'll try to sell you esports.

>>10809252
>Then that means there's none on Youtube either since you've got to network even harder,
you can tell the literal moment he got picked up by the algorthim in a major way and what it did for the rest of his video numbers

>>10807804
sometimes it depends on your client too. by default its set to automatic resolution and it might pick something low even if your internet could handle the highest setting. at least in the past it would always default to a lower setting if you aren't logged in

>>10809064
Based Pochichad

>>10809290
>never been in twitch's interest to push vtubers
it's kind of obvious at this point that you didn't see the huge growth of many vtubers on the platform ever since june last year
stop talking about what you don't know man please twitch is miles better

>>10809376
those are some very short streams

>>10809410
>didn't see the huge growth of many vtubers
20 out of 800 is not a huge growth of many vtubers, anon. it's cope.

>>10809311
Aria? Don't make me fall in love with you. I'ma gos hard

>>10809376
I'm fully aware that it's great for people who only do videos, we're talking about streamers specifically.

>>10809441
there more than 20 vtubers on /wvt/ alone you dumb bint

>>10809376
it already speaks tons when you can only find one example of youtube algo working well
everytime this dude comes up and he didn't even livestream during his algo pickup, literally one in a million
>>10809441
then do tell anon, what are examples of people blowing up because of youtube algo? holos and corpos don't count :^)

>>10809441
I know you're jaded from seeing vtuber growth, but there's hundreds of vtubers who have grown significantly faster than any other non-viral streamer has simply by virtue of vtubing being a huge trend right now. The numbers even 50-viewer people have is outstandingly high and a lot of people produce content to the wind for ages. Most of these people hit these numbers in less than a year, 2 years at most.

Hey when you guys are done arguing about which bad platform is worse, would your rather watch your chuuba play Pathologic 2 or Cry of Fear?

>>10809482
and how many of had "huge growth"
i'll wait for more goalposts to be moved when you want to arbitrarily define some things as huge growth and other things as not

The algorithm on both sites is bad for streamers, the difference is that the AUDIENCE for these people are mainly on Twitch. If you pander to SEAniggers, JPs, and probably RUs and south americans then you'll honestly probably do better on Youtube just because that's where the audience for THOSE viewers are. The audience specifically for English speaking streamers is mainly on Twitch.

>>10809494
The only examples I can name are twitch streamers which makes it even more hilarious. Honey goblin and chibidoki shot up in popularity from clips on youtube, but they exclusively stream on twitch. Anon could make try to argue that they'd get that same kind of popularity boost if they streamed on youtube, but they don't, and we don't have any comparable data to prove this so it's still hypothetical. You could even argue that the clipper finding either of them if they had streamed on youtube would've added another layer of algo-bullshit to the hypothetical shit-roulette.

Since nyaru is having that open hang out, do you think it’s possible for me to get in and talk to my oshi? (Not nyaru)

>>10809565
0 viewers to 50 with no content besides some live streams in less than a year IS huge growth.

>>10792957
no changes

>>10809474
you like pochi too? her art is so pretty and her doujins are top notch
i even preordered the ane naru mono lewd figure and i can't wait for it to arrive heheh

>>10809280
I actually don't have this tab it just shows my follows.

you faggots really are wanna be managers for much that you all say otherwise

>>10809654
Based tastes.
>Ichika
VERY based.

>>10809565
anon just go look on twitter for posts of chuubas getting partner, most of the time it's in a year or less i'd say that's huge growth and better than youtube for sure

does anybody else feel bad when someone's having a big event and most /here/chuubas are shilling them hard but you just watch one someone else instead because you're honestly just not a fan of big events and would rather watch someone on what's a normal day for them

>>10809715
You're the one insisting that every single vtuber here is doing it wrong, so who's the wannabe manager?

For the 3x3, are you supposed to put your oshi in the center or the top left?

>>10809494
Honey Goblin(clipper), Veibae(some video of her crabraving and a JP clipper), Chibidoki (clipper), anyone picked up by a clipper to be honest. But they all stream on Twitch so you might want to disregard this since it invalidates your argument.

>>10809783
center

>>10809715
I don't think it was ever denied. Ever since the Koopa project the core idea of the threads was to promote /here/ vtubers to at least above average and beyond popularity through collective and coordinated managing.
Of course this idea has fallen to the wayside throughout the year in part due to the unmanageable scale of the /here/tuber roster and hornyposting.

>>10809795
oops

mysterychuuba here. i'm planning on switching to youtube some next year, but it's gonna be a super gradual thing. keeping it under wraps for now though.

>>10809788
>invalidates your argument
you just proved the point where people don't grow as fast by streaming on youtube rather than twitch

>>10809647
Fuck yeah, reach for the starts

>want to make a 3x3
>realize I don't care enough for a lot of them and just want to fill 7/9 slots with my oshi

>>10809781
I don't know who you are talking about.
I have always hated manager posting and I am tired of it.
>>10809798
that is retarded and a waste of your time is good that is dead.
>>10809872
fuck off.

>>10809930
Fill all 9 of them with her

>>10809872
>super gradual thing
Sure. I'm honestly open for chuubas trying things like this. Hopefully it works out, and maybe by the time the move is done Susan will have fixed her platform. Personally I would adivse my oshi from doing it though.

>>10809940
>fuck off.
your loss.

>>10809873
Thats was the point

>>10809940
nigga I am unemployed every waking moment is a waste of time I have literally nothing else to do you will sit there and watch me manager LARP.

>>10809940
You've been managerposting for an entire thread my guy, trying to explain why you're a better manager than everyone else here

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>>10809552
Honestly I don't know much of either. I've seen a chuuba try Cry of Fear and it didn't look like much. Pathologic 2 however looked very interesting. I'd be more keen on watching that.

>>10809552
Cry of Fear can be a good horror game if you get into the mood, otherwise it's pretty boring.

>>10792957

>>10809999
you do you, but I think that you could do better.
get a hobby that actually improves you instead of others.
>>10810071
what? who do you think I am?

>>10809715
>you faggots
/wvt/ isn't a hivemind dipshit.
Wannabe managers have existed since the first idol maker projects hosted here.
If you think I'm going to let some dumbass wannabe entertainer act like they're above criticism and harsh words just because they've got an avatar and fans then you're even more retarded than the boogeymen you think you're fighting against.

>>10810305
if you think they care about you, you are retarded.
and I think that you know this, when was even the last time someone even heard your criticism?

>>10809657
>i even preordered the ane naru mono lewd figure and i can't wait for it to arrive heheh
You gonna hot glue it?

my indie oshi did a 2.0 reveal and her new self-made model is beautiful but I just noticed it has a few details too similar to one of the wave 3 nijiEN
do I tell her? it would suck if people came to her stream only to shit on her art, she's a good girl and it's probably an unfortunate coincidence

>>10810502
stop being autistic

>>10810399
You say that like I care whether or not they care
>when was even the last time someone even heard your criticism?
When was the last shitstorm?

>>10810544
so you, by your own admission, waste your time for no reason, all right.
still dumb.

>>10810502
Typically I'd say don't mind it, but I do remember a chuuba who stopped streaming because people kept calling her Kana.
I feel really bad about that.

https://twitter.com/ShimadaTiger/status/1444805786786406408

>>10810647
>if you don't personally benefit from it it is a waste of time
the fall of western society is your fault.

>>10810703
What does it mean?

>>10810654
I know chat can be retarded, that's why I'm asking for help

>>10810409
women can't hot glue anon...

Reminder that people who want you to switch to YouTube are actually aiming to remove you from competing with them on Twitch.

>>10810768
it means she's streaming again

>>10810703
TORA TORA TORA

>>10810703
Tiger baby...

>>10807435
This was honestly fun. I feel like maybe I should go dumpster diving for ENvtuber manager takes for the thread to discuss. How did you find this anyway?

>>10799048
I KNEEL

>>10810745
what?
are you high?
damn, I didn't know that being a wannabe manager to anime girls was saving the west wow that's crazy.
now go help that goat get at least one viewer will ya, or did you already try all of your tricks with her?

>>10810818
I though Aria has a caralho

>>10810703
I hope she's doing well now.

>>10811095
Isn't the goat the exact example to prove that youtube will always shit the bed in comparison to twitch? She multistreams on both platforms and her youtube viewership is significantly smaller than her twitch one. She's only just learned to raid and be more active in other streamers' chats too, so that number has been growing recently.

>>10810703
Graduation time

>>10810818
Yes they can, it just won't be as thick

>>10792957