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10872530 No.10872530 [Reply] [Original]

Probably 0% right now, sure, but what about once the NijiEN males debut and dominate the male chuuba market? Will Cover try to catch up, or will they not even attempt to take that market?

>> No.10873568

i honestly have a hard time imagining a western male trying to pass themselves as idols.

>> No.10873668

>>10872530
I would pay money to watch Roberu fuck the lesbian out of her. I am so done with yurishit.

>> No.10873811

>>10872530
>male idols

anon..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FTjKjrxQ-E

>> No.10873922

>>10872530
I wanna be a homostar

I'm cool, and I'm from the south so I have a gimmick I can ride

>> No.10873932
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>>10873568
>>10873811
But Holostars aren't idols to begin with? For that matter, HoloEN and ID were never marketed as idols either. To think otherwise is simply headcanon.

>> No.10874035

>>10873811
God female fans are too insufferable, it's like watching anons irl

>> No.10874072

Nijisanji EN male is widely rumored right now.
They've had tremendous success with their japanese males, they don't mistreat them like hololive does

>> No.10874095
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10874095

every time you ask this question Holostars EN either gets a month closer or a month further away

at this rate we have no idea if or when they'll come, it could even be tomorrow

>> No.10874156

>>10872530
Next year or the year after. Holostars don't want HoloEN because their main fanbase is already English speakers (the idea is they think it will leach). After NijiEN tests the water, and Holostars gets the boost from their 3D concert, a 3 person Holostars EN gen is a possibility in the cards.

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>>10873568
EN males passing as idols isn't that big a leap. It's not common, but I'm sure there's people like Roberu out there in English-speaking countries: Idolfags that would jump at the chance to themselves be male idols.
No, the biggest problem I see is that the current "metagame" for vtubers is playing video games. "Males playing vidya" might be a more oversaturated arena in straming than any other. You would have to have males that can actually create content, make themselves appealing and interesting, but WITHOUT relying on vidya as their core pillar of content. And when they did play vidya, you would have to get somebody who is talented and entertaining in a completely disconnected from the video game they're playing. Right now, there's not much that can fill that order. Maybe some sort of charismatic savant that can explain or analyze a media while they're actively streaming it? Like a movie buff that talks about cool practical effects in a watchalong, or an artist that explains the difficulties in pulling off specific animation/perspective tricks, or a game designer that can talk about the theory behind specific level design choices. The main problem with this is that most people that excel in these sorts of things are in those industries and would gain nothing from becoming a vtuber.

So that means you need
>A male
>That is charismatic independent of their activity
>At least half-competent in streaming
>Willing and able to become a vtuber
>That has semi-unique skill(s) and knowledge that set them apart from their peers and competition
>Doesn't already have a job in their field of expertise that would preclude them from streaming.
>At least tangentially familiar with idolshit or willing to learn and engage with it
>Maybe good at singing
>Isn't ALREADY a successful streamer that checks these boxes.
If you know anybody like that then please send Cover their information and make sure you never give that person your real name because you probably found a Fae or something.

>> No.10874445

>>10872530
eh... depends. if people really want it to happen then it will happen. astel already explain it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NviWMRJSWJ8
even nijien male was a succes, i bet cover still reconsider about it. since they dont want to crash the main star branch

>> No.10876087

>>10873932
How can you expected these retards to watch streams, anon?

>> No.10877355

>>10872530
You have a higher chance of being a tranny and becoming a woman, publicly announcing it everywhere, and getting accepted than them making a holostars en. Omega wants to be the only male near these girls, not to mention reddit hates the males being anywhere near the females and would probably start a lynch mob.

>> No.10877372

>>10872530
is that fucking Ferdinand von Aegir?

>> No.10877463

>>10877372
Yes. He was an ongoing gag throughout Kiara's FE3H playthrough everytime he was summoned onto the field so that could explain this image.

>> No.10877755

>>10872530
>no new debuts for a year ever since the Kaoru drama
>no auditions open either
>no plans for anything
lmao, the homos are a failure, Cover know this the best, they're just waiting for the fags to leave, because they'd look bad if they just fired them all and closed the group.

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>>10877755
Cover you bastards, fill this trap-sized hole in my heart already.

>> No.10879261

>>10874156
>gets the boost from their 3D concert, a
Why do people even think a paid even of all things is going to boost them, if anything their chance to incline is right now with the 3D debuts, that just keep getting lower and lower numbers if public 3Ds aren't saving them how the fuck is a paywalled even supposed to, that's a reward for their existing fans not something meant to attract new ones

>> No.10879379

>>10879261
Purely because Hololive got a boost from their first live. There's no logical reason by your reasoning for Hololive to have gotten the boost but it did.

>> No.10879780

>>10879379
They didn't get a boost from their first live, they were alredy doing really good by non stop story, Coco broke the 100k record in two weeks and FBK was alredy at the very top of the vtubing world.
The live was neat, but not what made them incline drastically at all, literally no one attributes their growth to Holofes

>> No.10879808

>>10877355
>Omega wants to be the only male near these girls
100% This
Homostarts will be off the table as long as we have a manager who is pathetic enough to self-insert as a powerfantasy straight out of Mori Calliopes 16yo diary

I wouldn’t even mind it if the fag was at least competent, but he isn’t even an effective manager

>> No.10879831

>>10879379
No one inclines from Lives or else Nijisanji would be fucking skyrocketing, they had 5 or more lives in September.

>> No.10879904

>>10879780
>>10879831
Literally A-chan, a bunch of Holomembers, even fucking Roberu, have repeated the narrative of the hype of Hololive changing after the first live and it being the inflection point of their popularity. I'm just repeating the official narrative.

>> No.10880045

>>10879904
They cite holofes as a big moment in their careers because of how important it is not because it lead to their incline, like yeah man they're totally going to come out and say "we owe our success to fubuki scatman" also the scale of the lives is completely different, Hololive was alredy pretty much the second biggest agency by Holofes with 30+ talents, holostars only has 9 with most of them having less subs than 1 month old Coco

>> No.10880067

>>10873568
>>10872530
They should make Andrew Huang a vtuber.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POtV24aOI5s

>> No.10880172

Talk about the concert makes me wonder if anyone is even going to bother restreaming it

>> No.10880250

>>10872530
I mean, I bet they'd do better than any of the current holostars, but that's not saying much.

>> No.10880252
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10880252

yasss connor,nux taku, scarra, and RPR let's goooooo

>> No.10880494

>>10872530
English idols cannot exist
Its just not possible

You cant find me a single english person that can sing a japanese song

>> No.10880513

>>10880252
RPR is fine, a leech, but he's nice

>> No.10880617

>>10873932
that not how an idol supposed to act...

>> No.10880693

>>10873932
>But Holostars aren't idols to begin with
Laugh at this clip consumer

>> No.10881079

>>10872530
Keep that bitch away from Roberu!!

>> No.10881372

>>10879904
>>10880045
the shift towards "we really are idols guys" for NSS and general unicorn pandering occurred coincidentally at the same time as the .LIVE drama and many former Idol-bu fans abandoned the group. it's certainly not the biggest reason for Hololive's incline but it all played a part in why it exploded like it did.

>> No.10881397

>>10872530
KFP...... why cuck yourself

>> No.10881404
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>>10880252
I can do better

>> No.10881448

Yagoo would have to give a single iota of fuck about holostars first.

>>10873568
NijimalesEN will blow up from the novelty of it and then hololive will play catchup by trying to make holostars more able to compete with nijisanji males like based ibrahim.

>> No.10881541

>>10877355
>>10879808
>tranny trying to molest the girls

How did Yagoo let this happen?

>> No.10881624

>>10881404
Who is the first two guys

>> No.10881655

>>10872530
When Nijisanji dominates the Male vtuber market everyone vtuber agency is going to follow.
The industry has very few trendsetters most of them are followers.

>> No.10881679

>>10872530
failure. NijiID male failed. NijiKR male failed. NijiEN male soon.

>> No.10881707

>>10881404
>sseth
Hololive graduation speedrun

>> No.10881711

>>10873568
HolostarsEN would require a completely different strategy and presentation.

>> No.10881874

>>10881679
Taka and Bonni is doing fine, they are the 1% of Indonesian male VTubers.

>> No.10881902

>>10881448
Don't fool yourself, the NijiEN males are going to underperform drastically

>> No.10881968

>>10881679
NijiID males are among the top male performers of indonedia. NijiKR failed because their manager is a cunt

>> No.10882026

>>10881968
>NijiID males are among the top male performers of indonedia.
That's not saying much anon

>> No.10882181

>>10874072
in a sense this could answer said question. Niji Male is leagues beyond Holostars and Cover does jack shit for Holostars still. will Niji EN males dominate the market? probably, from the lack of other representatives, but how big is said market? We will find out after debut, and if it's as big as NijiEN than the most sensible answer is: It's not worth the hassle for cover. If it's not worth the hassle a big market like JP as seen by Niji, why bother with a smaller one?
so let's wait for said debut.

>> No.10882298

i should have applied to NijiEN males when i had the chance...

>> No.10882299

>>10882181
The holostars are just bad, that's why they failed to take off

>> No.10882415

>>10881902
Maybe you shouldn't fool yourself since nijisanji doesn't actively try to sabotage or forget their males exist which is the entire reason that holostars does significantly worse while male vtubers in nijisanji rival or exceed the best females.

>> No.10882419

>>10881968
>among the top male performers
that goes to some esports pro streamer though. even some regular streamer hardly can get 5k, you can even count a non-esport streamer that get more than 10k

>> No.10882437

>>10882298
It's okay, finana would have laughed at your penis from her neet cave secure in her false beliefs of superiority over you.

>> No.10882455

>>10881624
Jerma then sseth, jerma's the only one I would imagine would do well in it (though there's no fucking way he'd actually do it obviously) and sseth would just be a graduation speedrun as the other anon said

>> No.10882657

>>10882415
They shouldn't have started with an all female group if they wanted to have successful males

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>>10874445
>even nijien male was a success, i bet cover still reconsider about it. since they don't want to crash the main star branch
What Cover could do is hire a hybrid streamer/manager per each new EN gen. Every gen already has multiple managers they can afford to have one that's part streamer. In addition to that, Cover already shown that they're willing to give EN managers their own design in Omega, the JP side they also have A-Chan ( she not officially a manager, but you get the point).

>> No.10882837

>>10882704
Omega doesn't stream and never even plans on speaking

>> No.10882914

>>10873922
I'll ride you, cowboy
no homo

>> No.10883944

>>10873922
rooting for you cowboy

>> No.10887306

>>10872530
When holostars finally get success

>> No.10887350

Never. Holostars is a sinking ship. Put your faith in NijiEn males

>> No.10887362

Wonder if we can see Jackfrags as a vtuber lol

>> No.10887590

>>10887350
>Elira's NB friend
>Bao's boyfriend
Not looking so good man

>> No.10888191

>>10882026
Indonesia apparently has a really competitive vtuber scene. I wouldn't know but ID-fags go on about it all the time.

>> No.10890047

>>10872530
Can't wait to hear some twat from Birmingham pretend to be an anime character.

>> No.10890227

the idea of a strongly stereotyped Scottish vtuber is a personal dream of mine

>> No.10895368

>>10873568
>idols
God, I hate this so much.

>> No.10895523

>>10872530
>HolostarsEN debut
>It's all e-celebs and redditors trying to fuck the girls
No thanks

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>>10895523
What if you get married guys similar to Hana's dad?

>> No.10895936

>>10895788
What's the equivalent of hag for males?

>> No.10895941

>>10879060
You mean in your ass

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