/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

How do we stop her faggot antis from being such ESL annoying pests and ruining our ability to simply enjoy streams?
I'm an day one member and remember when they said these same things months ago and even during debut. Even now that doesn't seem to be the case anymore, they're still literally copy pasting the same complaints, even if it's riddled with disproven lies and old talking points and making excuses for it just to shit on her and TeaMates.
I've noticed them become more desparate and saturated in their attempts of falseflagging and shitting up the board. Not as original.
How do we stop them?

>>10898091
Where did Ame in the AM go

>>10898245
Go fuck yourself. I'm just not a man that says yes to everything she does like you. Not everyone with a differing opinion to yours is an anti. And I don't put her on a pedestal like you.

>>10898260
She soft canceled it. Basically put it on ice indefinitely and said in her most recent members stream that she doesn’t like doing any kind of long term commitment projects.

>>10898091
Did you know she is Jewish? Hope she has fun with that dreidel.

>>10898861
That's sad if true. I really liked it. I value variety more than predictably good streams. I'd trade 10 Ame Minecraft streams for one Ame in the AM

>>10898387
>retard selectively reading yes-man comments on YT.
>Teammmate taking the bait
>/hlgg/ threadreader believing the "ame invented..." shitpost or falseflaggers defending her sometimes retarded decisions and getting offended by it.
which one is it?
It literally doesn't matter if you've been around 10 months and 22 days or since day one. If you're retarded you're retarded. In fact the biggest shitheads in Ame's fandom are day one members

>>10898963
She's literally not, dipshit

>>10899125
But I need to see if I can get people to believe it, shhhhh.

>>10899179

>>10899103
>Saying I took bait after I objectively pointed out the fact that said bait was being copypasted and unoriginal at this point
Your reading reps anon
>Teammate
Go back

>>10899288
>objectively
>facts
first, read again, then go back, teammmate

>>10899103
ALL the comments on her streams, as well as members posts, especially on scuffed streams are nothing but positivity. I don't see a single criticism of her and any that look almost like it are just excuses like "this was scuff but I still loved it" etc.

>>10900852
If you do you get a comment from Ame like this
>Thanks for the feedback lol

>>10900939
To be fair Smashfart went on a huge unwarranted rant out of nowhere.
I still have some hope that Ame isn't too influenced by the simps because I noticed I seem to get my comments read on stream more often than them and I try my best to not be like them, and I'm honest when she asks for feedback in chat.

>>10900852
to be fair, that's true among all fandoms of all existing vtubers. Even Mori
The difference is how many exceptions you find, if any. I see, within this natural sea of yes-men, many teamates providing feedback. Many of them burying feedback among 3463 compliments, but still.
If you expect to find an absolutely critical and intelligent fandom, you must stick to nobodies where your opinion makes up 1/3 of the total

>>10901921
>even Mori
Genuinely curious why you felt the need to specify that when you'd already said it's a thing in all vtuber fandoms.

>>10898387
Can't have critical discussions about vtubers anymore unfortunately. It's clear that /vt/ards these days wants this to be a hugbox like reddit, where only positive circlejerking is allowed. I agree completely in that teamates are too sycophantic. You weren't even allowed to criticize her when she rescheduled a watchalong 15 minutes after it was supposed to have started, resulting in some teamates just pissing away their money as some of them rent the movies. Nah, it wasn't Ame's fault of course - it was the teamates' fault for being retarded and renting. They'll go to any length to defend her, even when it's so fucking obviously her own fault.

>>10902411
She is by far the most criticized by her fandom, but even then, the comments are full of love

>>10898091
Her fans are twitch and discord fags and massive containment breachers. There is no changing people like that sadly.

>>10902428
That was pretty damning and its sad how nobody criticized her for it. How would you feel if you planned to watch a movie with someone, was excited for it, rented it with your own money, and then the person you're watching with suddenly cancels last minute without saying why? (did she? I don't remember)
Why are most teamates like this? They'll defend any shit she does. I was pretty disappointed when that happened

>>10903661
Hell they defended her to the death when she canceled the collab with Gura, without actually telling Gura until her stream was over.

>>10899225
WHY IS HER OUTFIT DRAWN SO SENSUALLY?

>>10903661
>without saying why? (did she? I don't remember)
She used the old classic, "tommy hort". I actually wrote a fairly long and constructive response to her on Twitter outlying why cancelling and postponing streams as much as she did during that time period is a problem, and it was just fascinating to see how quickly the teamates rallied against me. They even called me a fucking loser etc for making an argument about how some people need to plan their days to watch the streams (especially if you're EU), so when she cancels they might have sacrificed other things unnecessarily. I've since given up completely on Twitter, but it sucks that the same thing is starting to happen here now.

>>10903713
That was pretty bad too, I was surprised that Ame would do that and I was excited for that collab. I've been watching Gura more because it feels like she cares more than Ame and puts in more effort, which is crazy because that's not saying much lmao

>>10902428
>>10903661
>>10903713
But why? She's made it clear she's done with pandering to goslings; nobody should see her as anything more but an entertainer. This blind illogical defense force every time she makes a mistake has no reason to exist. There are so many other GFE EN chuubas out there, even ones in Hololive like Kiara and Fauna. Why do they keep sticking with Ame when even she doesn't care for them anymore?

>>10903894
Twitter is honestly even worse than Reddit

>>10904039
Yes, definitely. The world would be a much better place if Twitter just disappeared.

All this samefagging is really sad, even more when it comes from an ironic post

>>10904343
t.cuck

>>10904343
My post isn't ironic. Isn't it sad that any criticism of a vtuber is dismissed as either bait, ironic or an anti? You're part of the problem.

>>10904640
You're trying too hard at this point. Cheap narrative, next

>>10904920
You're literally the type of person I'm talking about kek. Can't criticize a vtuber without someone like you coming along. She's my oshi and I'm getting disappointed with how she is doing things lately. Go back to your hugbox on /r/hololive.

>>10905029
-> >>10904920

>>10905055
>no good response so I'll just quote my post again

>>10898091
Like with all of these threads the problem lies with the streamer themselves. You can't put the blame on the fans since they are a direct result of their influence and streams. Those who stay fans put up with anything they throw out no matter how bad it is and everyone who doesn't is an anti.

>I'm going to act retarded, if they don't answer me at the same level of mental retardation, I'm right
You have good answers in this very thread, but you keep pushing your narratives samefagging. No more (You)'s for you fag

>>10898387
>not just a yes man
>still fucking sub'd
okay anon

>>10898091
Oh look Faggot OP made two more threads!
>>10900141
>>10911281

>>10898091
Scuff is charming so it's okay

>>10905299
I don't even watch Ame or holoEN in general, but the sycophant kind of behavior has been the norm for hololive fandom since before it even crossed over to the west. The root of the problem lies much deeper than Amelia herself. It's ingrained in the culture.

>>10905299
>>10912288
Case in point, although I agree with the premise of dangerous hugboxes constantly forming , sperging out and making these blog post threads while bombing her comment section to try to stand out will only have you discarded as a schizo by most of the population, there has to be much better ways of reaching out than killing threads just to cry wolf like she'll actually read them

>>10913052
The very premise that a supposed hugbox affects streamers is false imo, unless they are incredibly naive. In Amelia's particular case numerous times she read feedback from her followers and acted accordingly. Amidst all the sea of compliments, there is good feedback, and streamers know it
Let the yes-men say their bullshit, either way they will be ignored, both by us and the streamers

>>10913311
except that hasn't happened. She literally will give a sarcastic reply or a passive aggressive response, like she did during the ender dragon stream

>>10913544
Cmon, threadreader

>>10902428
Sadly this.
I really like Kronii, but retards in /infinity/ believing her that she plays Minecraft almost exclusively offstream because she doesn't think people would want to watch it and she wouldn't be able to entertain them is getting really old. She may be in the middle of Council when it comes to amount of time spent streaming, but it's not much overall, especially given how many times she was spotted in Minecraft in other people's streams. Add to that her another excuse about eyes getting tired after about three hours of playing.
And then there are constant technical difficulties.
If she doesn't fix it in a month (she already made enough to buy a whole new computer) and streams as little as right now, it'll be clear that she just wants to make as much money with as little effort as possible. It's understandable and I'm not gonna stop watching, or start giving her money, but it is kinda sad.

>>10898091
It's her fault for joining Hololive. Fans can't be brutally honest with whoever they watch because the fanbase will go on organized witchhunts about it.
It's the reason why HoloJP loves their overseas fans so much because they'll eat up whatever corny bullshit they create.

>>10898091
Vtubers can only save themselves from the cults they create.

>>10914847
Graduation when?

When is Ame going to play Gal Gun VR?

>>10913915
Wait what? Hasn't Kronii actually built a fair bit of stuff offstream? Like her bunker and the tree farm? Where's the distrust about her not actually playing Minecraft as much as she's claiming coming from?

>>10915064
Wait I misread, so your problem is the fact that you think she's not taking things seriously since she's been having constant technical difficulties showing that she doesn't care to prepare, and that the not wanting to stream her MC activities means that she's using it as an excuse to not stream? Is that what your issue is?

>>10914279
>It's the reason why HoloJP loves their overseas fans so much because they'll eat up whatever corny bullshit they create.
That makes no sense, since nip fans are the same. In the open, they'll eat up everything and praise the holo regardless of what they do, or just stay quiet and say nothing, because anything else is frowned upon by the community, then the people who don't like that kind of hugbox environment will go into anonymous boards and bitch about everything they didn't like but didn't have the courage to bitch about in the open, also adding a lofty amount of spite on top. If anything, nips are much more strict with not disturbing the unwritten hugbox rule.

>>10898091
What do you espect? Some of Holofan blind by HOLOLIVE and anything Made by their brand is perfect on their eye, even if you give a little critics that gain some like, you probably gonna get negative comment from that said vtuber fan, there no saving over this unless everyone say it to the ame

>>10915577
Lots of people have an issue with off-stream MC playing, which may sound ridiculous but I want it to be like on the JP server where pretty much every build is documented etc so we get a comprehensive history. There's so much shit now on the EN server that none have ever even seen. Obviously they'd be free to play whenever they want on their own servers, but I really think the EN server should be streamed to let us join in on the adventure. It's boring when every MC stream just ends up being an update stream where they talk about how much fun they had building and exploring without us.

>>10914279
That screenshot is painful to read

>>10898091
>How do we save her?
dick

>>10898245
This isn't reddit kid, and neither is youtube for that matter

>>10915577
There are some technical problems affecting lots of chuubas, but some it is either her not preparing (happens to other too sometimes, but that doesn't make it okay), or having a shitty computer (in which case she should fix it soon).
It's possible that she'll fix the technical difficulties. I choose to stay cynical to not get disappointed.
As >>10916150 said, there's a lot of talk about her not streaming Minecraft enough, but it's always excused with her being insecure. Either it's false and she just wants more money, or true and she'll get better with time.
Throwing money at her won't make her a better streamer.

>>10905160
NTA but yes. Cry about it and get over it.
Actually skip the crying because you won't contribute anything but more complaints so just get over it.

>>10898245
>TeaMates
you're not a day 1 member

>>10898963
thats Gura, Ame's a beaner

>>10903661
People cancel things last minute all the time, irl stuff come up and cause delays that you are not obligated to know about. You guys need to just chill.

In this thread, we timeloop criticisms greater than or equal to one month old among Anons, inevitably accomplishing nothing but perhaps a heated debate that will never reach the eyes of the talent herself because this isn't her comment section and she doesn't lurk this board.

>>10924106
>and she doesn't lurk this board
you can't prove that

>>10924621
At least this shitty thread

I mean people were criticizing her but she became a bit adversarial, to say the least. She also stopped using fan creations as thumbnails anymore. Kind of wonder if she is starting to hate her own fanbase

>>10899058
She still likes doing variety and creative streams so who knows, Ame in the AM may yet return under a looser format. She did say that during her light week she got some ideas for it.

>>10925562
>She also stopped using fan creations as thumbnails anymore
Why are retards so confident about being wrong?

>>10924621
Your point is moot because it can't be proven beyond any reasonable doubt that she does.

>>10928359
It would actually be much easier to prove that she does than proving that she doesn't. All it would take is one OBS accident, a fraction of a second of a browser on screen, just like Pekora gave it away that she lurks 5ch.

>>10898091
You don’t.

Why do teamates always act like whiny spoiled children here? They've become more annoying than the "Mori doesn't care about hololive" fags.