/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>10935815
Jesus tucking Christ I’m about to cut my dick off this is why I hate women

Search for ALL INDIES.
Let's see if they are actually poor

>vwhorejo
did I ask?

>>10935858
For every singular successful female vtuber there are a hundred that fail to get a dime.

>>10935815
Only one of them made over $50 damn that won't even buy 52 dollar tacos

>>10935879
Do it with this.

Look up their ID with this:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/twitch-username-and-user-id/

Search in the csv files with this:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/astrogrep/

>>10935815
I thought it would be more. Those are mid tier podcast numbers plus they stream multiple times a week.

>>10935815
nyanners is about 30k too

>>10935931
>podcast
Come on anon, you can do better

This is ads + subscribers + bits donations, right?

>>10935931
Those are $50k a month. How the fuck is that not enough? That's more the money engineers doing actual work earned in a year.

>>10935982
Basically just income from twitch, they can't track stuff like direct donations. There are some holos/nijis on twitch too, wonder how much they got.

>>10935982
It's payout. I'm not a twitch streamer so I don't know how the fuck they calculate them.

Fucking whores getting donated a bunch of money. Literal millionaires. They don’t even deserve any of it.

>>10935982
Everything twitch pays for, so ads + twitch integrated sponsored content + subs + bits but no streamlabs or 3rd party sponsors

>>10935815
>>10935931
And reminder, this DOES NOT INCLUDE DIRECT DONATIONS.

>>10936041
you fuckin do it then

>>10936041
You drank a whole glass of hateraid

>>10936041
True

>>10936048
I don't think so.
The payment would be AWAY higher. Amouranth herslef showed that she got paid in 4 month the equivalent of 5 millions.
Or the list is fake or is fucked up somehow

You do know you can throw any Youtube streamer into Playboard and see their earnings there too right. We even have a list of chuubas monthly earnings in a thread every month.
>>10677842
Hololive
>1. Uruha Rushia - $104,604
>2. Ouro Kronii - $86,704
>3. Momosuzu Nene - $78,758
>4. Yukihana Lamy - $74,374
>5. Mori Calliope - $64,921
>6. Usada Pekora - $59,544
>7. Takanashi Kiara - $54,277
>8. Amane Kanata - $53,952
>9. Inugami Korone - $53,056
>10. Oozora Subaru - $50,869
etc.

>>10935815
>>silvervale
>$34.137 on September
>>ironmouse
>$51.948 on September
>>veibae
>$31.080 on September

Fuck I used to feel pity for them living in the shadow of the big companies.

>>10936153
This doesn't include their membership income or their ad income

some holos have a twitch right? someone get miko's, pekora's, and nene's

>>10935985
Like I said, about what a mid tier popular podcast pulls on patreon. I thought streaming almost everyday would pay more.

>>10936153
This is just superchats anon, and it's not even 100% accurate.

>>10936166
Which means they're making less than what Playboard states and the Twitch numbers that got leaked are inflated by ads and subs so it's even less special. Like who cares

>>10936153
only 1/3 of this reach them since YT cuts and Cover cuts.

>>10936153
This is twitch and playboard don't include everything.

>>10935858
ywnbaw

>>10936153
>deadbeats
>not actually deadbeats

>>10936191
>and it's not even 100% accurate.
As in raw numbers before the youtube tax and cover cut?

>>10936207
Wrong.

>>10936160
VShojo is literally the 2nd largest EN agency (don't argue with me about semantics). They are still bigger than NijiEN

>>10936195
That's the payout. Meaning money they get after you minus everything out.

>>10935815
>none of them earn more than 100 bucks

>>10935815
Check Sakura Miko

this list can't be accurate
there is a brazilian streamer called Coringa that he never hides how much he makes.
He literally told that twitch pays him 500k per month

>>10935815
Check Koopa pls, her ID is 618467536.

>>10936278
That is a direct leak anonchama. Either your streamer is lying or he does some kind of weird conversion.

>>10936246
Does anyone genuinely claim that VSJ isn't the second biggest EN vtuber group?

>>10935936
True
>>>/g/83693386
>nyanners
$30.075 on September

>>10936278
He might be talking about total earnings and not just twitch payout

That's not good money, it's barely livable. $75k/year good

>>10936309
Do it yourself anon.

>>10936343
This is just one month anonchama

>>10936336
This people are forgetting that this list don't include sponsorship and believe me sponsors can pay you a LOT of money.

>>10936041
>literal millionaires
>low 6 figures before taxes
pick one

>>10936343
https://streamable.com/0bjrkc

>>10935985
>Those are $50k a month. How the fuck is that not enough? That's more the money engineers doing actual work earned in a year.
NTA but he's right.
It's comparatively little.
>>10935858
>Jesus tucking Christ I’m about to cut my dick off this is why I hate women
Guy streamers make more.
Chuubing is a subset of a subset and really not that profitable by comparison.

>>10936343
>/year
Retard-kun...

>>10935815
>>silvervale
>$34.137 on September
>>ironmouse
>$51.948 on September
>>veibae
>$31.080 on September

Just by looking at this, Im pretty sure that Melody is definitely the most paid Vtuber.

>>10936278
Gaules bought the rights to the NBA matches only with twitch and sponsorship money.
He's literally the only streamer on the plataform allowed to stream NBA matches. I doubt he only makes $100k per month like it's on the list

POGGERS

>>10935815
>They make more than HoloEN
No surprises here

>>10936041
>Fucking whores getting donated a bunch of money. Literal millionaires. They don’t even deserve any of it.
Nobody 'deserves' their lot in life.
Only very few religions say otherwise. Most simply say that fate is what it is and you gotta suck it up, and if you're irreligious the question of deserve is even more irrelevant.

>>10936453
Gura makes more than any of them based on memberships alone.

>>10936359
>having to download some spreadsheet in a honeypot
id rather not

>>10935815
How much money is Kana making ?

How much do chuubas have to pay in taxes as business owners do you think?

>>10936501
Use a VPN then.

>>10936419
I doubt that.
The membership money for Hololive members must be really big

>>10936453
You don't know how much HoloEN makes outside of superchats.

>>10936262
Anon...

>Silvervale
She's a sweetheart who deserves the world. Deserves it.
>Ironmouse
A diamond who's a classic example of someone who's better then the vast majority of people being born with a crippling disease. Deserves it.
>Veibae
I appreciate how brutally honest she is even if she's pretty disgusting at times. Deserves it.
There's nothing wrong here OP. Stop being a little fucking bitch before I rape your asshole with my fat dick.

Please show me BatataComPepino.
I need to know if she is really poor like she says or is lying

>>10936453
And your claim is based on what evidence? The SC earnings that don't count membership money, ads on videos, merch and so on?

>>10935908
No that's bullshit, my little brother is watching some shitty red mouse vtuber and has even subscribed to her Ko-Fi. By law of streaming, one girl will always have one simp.
unless they have a deep voice

>>10936453
Not every HoloEN, Gura, Mori, Kronii earns 60k+
in Septermber too

>>10936566
If you really need to know, go torrent the files. Then search for their ID. The search the CSV and see how much the earn.

>>10936589
>earns 60k
>doesn't have a spare mic, 4/5G mobile modem & gaming laptop for whenever she travels
Calli bls.

Total earnings too
>>>/g/83693864

Zentreya 284537.56
nyanners 175008.04
veibae 108747.67
ironmouse 58588.11
Silvervale 57379.4

>>10936451
Fuck you korofrog poster.

>>10936153
those are just sub money. Who the fuck knows how much these fucking thots are earning through donations

>>10936695
that doesn't seem right?

>>10936695
>ironmouse 58588.11
>Silvervale 57379.4
You sure you got that right and not in the 500ks?

anon explained that this list only shows subs, ads and bits. Don't includes donations and sponsorship or other things

>>10936728
it's the opposite retard dumbshit

>>10936539
OP used a period for the numbers rather than a comma.

>>10936737
Total since twitch existed, Zen and nyanners were there earlier

>>10935815
There seems to be a misinformation here. Ironmouse 51k on September but only 58k total (2019/8 to 2021/10)
>Here are top 10000 total earning users by USER NAME, user id and total earning.
https://pastebin.com/S1SGxd0B

so veibae can stop pretending about her income now

>>10936741
Just copypasted what there's in that pastebin

This isn't a surprise to anyone who can do basic math

I feel sorry for nyanners. Her following seems to be completely organic, and now any time she puts out a video on YouTube, it's going to be spammed with how much she makes.

>>10936695
It's only income for the past two years

>>10936788
>>10936695
I think the misinformation here is from the total. No way they earn way that small from 2019.

Can streamers like sue twitch for privacy leak?

you could've literally calculated this by hand considering that basically every vshojo except for nyanners keeps a live subscriber count on their screen and that's where like 90+% of the income listed here comes from since nobody bothers with bits and direct donations aren't included

so basically the biggest leak here vtuber-wise is nyanners' subscriber count which seems to be around 10k, about the same as other top vshojos, it that wasn't that exciting either

>>10936847
Why would you want that?

Mori might be on to something with that TTRPG thing. Seriously why aren't the ENVtubers Startups creating own 'critical role' gen.

>>10936847
Has anyone in the history of ever successfully sued a company for a leak when the leak was caused by glows/hackers/foreign governments/etc.? How would they even begin to go about this? Twitch can just be all "not our fault, hackers did it, sue them" and you can't sue the hackers because they're anonymous.

>>10936419
is that everything like bits, ads, and shit? Top youtube streamers earn as much as this

>>10935815
>vshojo makes more in a month than I do in an entire year of regular pay, before taxes, excluding bonuses and PTO.
I have a degree and a half that I worked my ass off to get without any fucking student loan bullshit and some whores on the internet are making more than I'll ever see outside of winning the lottery. Sure, my job is more stable and I'll be able to do it until the day I die, but damn if that doesn't make me feel like I made every wrong decision in life.
Time to become a TTS tranny.

>>10936847
Yes, but only if the streamer can prove tangible (read: monetary) damages, and only if Twitch doesn't have an arbitration clause, which I'm pretty sure they do.
For example, if Veibae suddenly loses a bunch of subs this week, or takes a really bad few weeks for donations, and people are saying "I'm not donating to Veibae because she already makes too much", she can theoretically sue for damages, because arguably she wouldn't have taken that loss if Twitch had done their OpSec reps. In practice it's much more complicated, but the case would exist.

>>10936891
yes against equifax

>>10936041
My oshi earned my money.
You're just bitter that that's not you.

Why is it a big deal Vshoujo makes this much in a month (donations + subs + ad revenue) but when Hololive makes 10x the amount in purely SC in a month, it's whatever

>>10936989
Just become a vtuber on the side. Work 8 hours in the day, and stream games a few hours before you go to bed.

Worth keeping in mind when looking at this months numbers that september was subtember where it was 20% off subs and lots of streamers had subathons

>>10936989
>Veibae suddenly loses a bunch of subs this week, or takes a really bad few weeks for donations, and people are saying "I'm not donating to Veibae because she already makes too much",
Yeah...not happening.
Regardless, thanks for the info anon

I never donate to a streamer, why should i care

>>10936989
>Yes, but only if the streamer can prove tangible
no
you can't sue your employer over an accidental fire if they followed all regulations. unless twitch did something illegal they're fine.
lawyers might disagree but who fucking cares, what the judges think and precedent shows is what matters more.

you'd have to be an idiot wasting money trying to sue twitch over this.

I think they should make more
Please donate generously

>>10936989
Nijisanji Wave 4 is just round the corner. Your time will come soon.

>>10937113
illegal or negligent*

>>10937158
and how would you prove they were negligent without going into discovery?

>>10936313
Me, because they're whores

So, no one here is going to download the whole list and search for indies?

So clint makes 500k per year for streaming 1000 hours per year.
He is the most efficient streamer around.

>>10937304
what an insightful comment

>>10937247
how can you prove a teapot isn't between the earth and the sun?
you're wasting money on a retarded chance. suing a company like twitch requires a competent legal team, beyond, frankly, anyone on here's skills, including you whether you're a psued lawyer or an actual lawyer.

hacks are an expected outcome on the internet, you'd have to prove twitch did incredibly negligent things -- you'd have to be a lolcow to get a lawyer over a lawsuit this retarded.

Remember with Hololive that Youtube takes 30-40% and cover probably takes 10-20 too. This means best case the talent takes 50% of the numbers you see and worse case what, 20%? Top Hololive earners are making less than Vshojo, especially when you take into account their donations. As for Youtube subs, that’s $5 each (I doubt a chunk worth substantiating of people pledge higher tiers) Youtube takes 50% of memberships, just like Twitch does, so minus Cover’s cut you’re looking at only an extra 5k from 2,000 memberships. I think Vshojo is earning quite a lot more than the average Holomem.

>>10936989
I mean, once the payout leaks get out of hand and it's spread to a lot of people, many would be too angry/avoid to sub to them because they're already making a ton of money. Who would give a sub once you've seen them make more than 10k a month while you're busy toiling on 8-5 jobs for $1.5k monthly salary.

>>10937401
>Youtube takes 50% of memberships
No, they don't. Youtube ads also worth more than twitch ads.

>>10937401
>Vshojo is earning quite a lot more than the average Holomem.
That's obvious. Are they making more than the Top Holos?

>>10937401
Hololive Talents get a much bigger cut of the merch, though. When Coco talked about it it was basically pure profits, and the main hurdle was the up-front costs that have to be provided by the chuuba.
This has always been how it goes, though: If you want the chuuba to get the most of your donations, then buy their merch and voice packs.

>>10937401
That's just the take home pay, which doesn't really matter because what's being discussed is who is pulling in more revenue.

>>10937401
Hololive has a whole lot of merchandise and advertising deals that vshoujo don't have

>>10937438
you're overestimating people.
streamers get multi thousand dollar donations

and joe schmoe still subs.

we're no longer in the era of top earners begging and asking for subs.
you'd have to be retarded to think any major streamer isn't making somewhere in the range of what we see in this document.

>>10937401
>>10937461
No fucking chance, Rushia and Coco made ~2.5 mil just from SC alone.

>>10937466
I don't fuck with superchats.

Only purchase merch, merch rewards the right people.

>>10937512
SCs is just tips to them. Members and ads revenue is where its at.

>>10937512
And they probably made even more from merch

>>10937596
doubt

>people are seriously engaging in oneupmanship my streamer earns more than yours ITT because of chuuba tribalism
Cover or Amazon as a boss doesn't matter, they're still earning more than (you) no matter ify ou think they deserve it.

>>10937548
>>10937596
Yep, top holo earners are probably all multimillionaires, top vshoujo earners won't be able to reach those number with just ~50k alone.

>>10937519
>merch rewards the right people
the people who print and transport plastic junk?

FREE ENTERTAINMENT BABYYY
you all must feel like retards now huh?

>>10937631
Well I like just like looking at big numbers.

>>10936540
Was mouse born with the disease? I heard it was a mutation that occured, since she could live regularly for a good amount of years

>>10937631
hololive fans simply can't accept losing number battles plz understand

>ironmouse
$51.948 on September

all that money and she's still dying. FUCKING LMAOOOOOO JUST GIVE ME THE MONEY YOU FUCKING BITCH!

>>10937631
I've already moved on from being pissed about how whores are making more than I'll ever see in my life. Now I'm laughing about how Miko and Pekora barely have content on Twitch and they still make nearly half as much as vshitjo does streaming there multiple times a week.

>>10937519
>merch rewards the right people.
Yeah ever worked at "merch factory"?
A blank 50 cent tshirt comes and the moment it is unloaded it is worth 7 bucks and then once the imprint is on it is now 20 buckaroos. Now include the shipping costs and the creator gets 5 cents

>>10935815

Why does twitch make it such a big deal. All youtube earnings are public.

>>10937777
are you serious?

>>10937759
Wtf, Pekora just streamed twice there. How is that possible

>>10937718
Your post is exactly what I mean though. Chuuba tribalism.
Also I sincerely doubt the Holos earn less than the Vshojos even considering the cuts

>>10937777
People bitched, same thing happened with Patreon

>>10937759
What the fuck? Is this real? Fucking hell.

>>10935858
based

>>10937777
>All youtube earnings are public.
membership and ad rev earnings are not public
super thanks might not be public either

>>10937806
subs bro.

>>10937606
Ayame's limited merch set to 800 sold out within minutes. It's 12k yen.

>>10937752
>dying
is there a possibility she's not dying but faking?

>>10936695
ironmouse been on twitch for a while now. how did she made only 6k in 2 years and then 52k in September?

>>10937806
it's cheaper to sub in twitch in my country than in youtube so i support them there

>>10937902
she blew up

>>10937930
who blew her up? Did someone manage to find her irl studio apartment and detonated a bomb in there?

FIXED TOTAL (2019/8 to 2021/10) for top 1000 https://pastebin.com/LjmaPNam

>>10937952
her ironlungs bro

>>10937808
the top ones, probably. like rushia, pekora, gura, marine, etc. everyone else, not so sure. yt and cover take a really big cut.

>>10937952
it was connor she nutted in her (with condom)

>>10937953
Ironmouse with 600k+. This one is more legit

>>10937896
Suisei made at least $500k from her album (and the number is still growing).

>>10937953
thats very fucking different than what was posted before, what was the correction?

>>10937806
>>10937829
Pekora has streamed 3 times on her Twitch channel this year: Once in July, once in August, and once in September. All were watchalongs.
150k Followers. Subs aren't tracked but they're enabled. Pic related.

Miko has streamed at least once a week (with the exception of 4 break weeks) on her Twitch channel since it launched in January.
197k Followers and 903 current subs, mostly Prime and T1 subs.
VOD logs are mostly watchalongs, but there's a few Zatsudans and even a couple of Minecra streams in the channel history.

all that money yet i know for a fact that their twitch jannies work, as per tradition, For Free

>>10936226
To begin with, it doesn't compute superchats earned during members-only streams.

>>10937953
pekora's in there with 25k but no miko the fuck?

>>10937993
Total vs monthly looks like?

>>10937953
163 ironmouse 175831187 668920.56
273 veibae 97245742 490622.56
332 nyanners 82350088 434790.17
439 projektmelody 478575546 355827.18
487 Silvervale 56938961 328656.14
1928 CDawgVA 45098797 106730.93

>>10938025
twitch jannies get paid, unless you mean the ones that streamers get for their chatrooms then yeah you're right.

>>10937993
I bet they missed a year.

>>10938147
>>10938118
couldn't be, critical roll went from a crazy $37,362,492.19 to a sensible $9,626,712.16.

>>10937993
>>10938118
>>10938147
some code idk check the thread above its the same one

>>10938211
Then must be the way they calculate from the columns. Well something must've gone wrong for the numbers to fuck up that much.

>>10938129
>1581 Apricot 151054406 126133.99
At least froot that fucking scammer don't earn that much.

>>10938129
LOL Ironmouse got bored of Conner the moment she started making more money than him so she started leeching from sykkuno makes sense for stupid bitch

>>10938252
Cause she's lazy and doesn't stream that much to begin with

>>10938258
I mean, she's THE twitch vtuber. She's been in the business a lot longer than most.

>>10938252
>126133.99
that can still buy a lot of patches tho.
fuck this gay earth

>>10938237
>>10938233
>>10938211
Just checked the other thread. It's a combination of being stupid and generalising shit.
>Sorry guys, I fucked up. Apparently the files in the subfolders in \all_revenues\2021\03 etc. are just previous month's data on that specific day, and shouldn't be simply summed together. As such I've double counted a significant amount. A separate bug in my code also lead to miscounting of gross income for streamers that were more active in later years. There's no conspiracy, there's only the dumb black hole in my brain. Today I failed as a programmer

>>10938129
>Melody makes over a quarter of a million from Twitch alone before taxes
>This doesn't include her Youtube channel or her chaturbate or anything else she's had over the years that I can't think of right now
No wonder she wanted in on vshojo. Her tax forms must be a nightmare.

>>10937759
What are the chances that Cover or AnyKara creates a Twitch Exclusive branch?

>>10935815
Can someone tell me how much a streamer called swordbro_streams has made?

>>10938337
He's not in the top 10,000, so he's made less than $23,520.42 off of Twitch since 2019.

>>10938337
He's not in the compiled list so below 23.5k over two years I can only assume

Does seeing female streamers make money off of simps really make you seethe?

>>10938336
nah, they rather play the fields. they have a foot in a lot of the streaming sites, eg. nnd, bilibili, twitch, yt. i think yagoo wanted to do facebook as well but it didn't fall through so he told the holomems to not touch it.

>>10938379
It doesn't make me seethe but seeing big numbers soothe me

>>10938258
Was on stream with Connor multiple times last week between her stream and his and is streaming with him tomorrow
He was just on vacation dude, chill out

>>10938379
Seethe? Not really. Disappointed in my fellow man? A little bit. Disappointed in myself for not pursuing a chance to get into the entertainment sector when I had it? Kinda.
It's crazy how much these people make, but I respect the hustle. I just wish I could make that much on my own skills and merits.

>>10938379
You're on /vt/, you need to go ask on /g/ or /v/. This is where the money is coming from.

>>10938411
None of them make money off "skill" or "merit", it's basically luck, you didn't have a chance

>>10938379
No because its men who own or started the those companies.

>>10938411
All the more reason, "Off with their heads" is a good motivational song.

>>10938379
nope, not when hasan is making over 200k a month and still virtue signal about how awful rich people are. fucker still begs for dono's.

26 AdmiralBahroo 1985892.39

This is the only vtuber number that gets me close to seething

>>10937759
>>10937806
>he doesnt know about nenes twitch channel

>>10938492
No one is getting the numbers from nene's channel

>>10937401
>Youtube takes 50% of memberships
Why are you lying?

>>10938463
I'm making the games these girls play, and I will see pennies on the dollar they make from streaming it. I went to school for the better half of a decade and refined my craft over another decade, autistically killing myself for a dream that pays out peanuts.
I'm happy, and I'm not really hurting for money, but damn if those numbers don't make me feel that maybe I wasted my time a bit and should've just cashed in early.

>>10938480
Why? The man was already a well-known streamer before he adopt vtubing. He's extremely generous with artists, pay his jannies.

>>10938535
>I went to school for the better half of a decade and refined my craft over another decade
Then you should have enough experience to start your own company and make more than they do

I'm a newfag not even 6 months into 4chan and the only board I follow is /vt/, but why the fuck is /g/ full of porn? I got baited by a lot of futas and porn webms in the living room

>>10938379
I hate women. They got it easy. Jerma, who does these high production streams, makes less than fucking Pokimane. Fuck this gay earth and fuck women

>>10938379

Are you fucking kidding me? these girls are entertaining me when Hollywood and the rest of mainstream media are failing me.

>>10938535
yea, I am starting to see why nintendo wants a cut. not to mention all those 'reaction' videos that ends up make more than the original vids. i wonder if this leak will lead to anything.

>>10938552
>He thinks a new game dev company can get footing in 2021.
>He thinks somebody that went to school less than 30 years ago can get a loan for a startup in 2021.
It's not a wonder nerds are becoming vtubers, they can't afford shit otherwise.

>>10937458
>Youtube ads also worth more than twitch ads.
nope. Youtube has too many third worlders with worthless CPM

>>10938411
You sound jealous. The market is mostly fair; hate to say it but I doubt you're as interesting or entertaining as them.
V-Tubers specifically fit this criteria. I'd like to see you work as hard or be as skilled as Watame.

Is it fair you aren't so talented? Who knows. What matters is it's stupid to look down on your "fellow man" because somebody entertains them who you personally don't see value in. That you see this transaction as a "hustle" speaks greatly as-to-why you're seething over what entertainers make because you have a financially worse situation.

>>10938559
programmers are horny as fuck.

>>10938559
the absolute state of /vt/

>>10938623
>>He thinks a new game dev company can get footing in 2021
Of course it can you idiot, it's never been easier to start one than it is today
If you've been working for 10 years and have no savings or connections, you're the fool

>>10938449
Biggest cope of the century. Anomalies exist but millions of people have tried live streaming, market forces have forced off the least entertaining for the most part.
Maybe early movers were more luck, but even then I'd point out how few early movers are still around.

>>>/g/83693386
Dafuq cookiezi got 15k from his super washed-up streams and genshit?

>>10938596
>i wonder if this leak will lead to anything.
So far all it's lead to is a lot of people pretending to be surprised at figures that aren't really surprising.

>>10938631
I am jealous. I ain't even trying to pretend otherwise.
I like how my life currently is, but who doesn't want more money? Retards, that's who.
I'm not saying they're beneath me or doing less work, and I don't mean "hustle" in a derogatory way. There's a lot of dangers and problems with being a streamer, which is part of the reason I didn't pursue that path when I had the chance.
I am jealous of the paycheck, though. $30k is still $30k.

>>10935815
I thought Veibae would earn more

>>10935815
how much does nimu makes

>>10938699
>but who doesn't want more money
Me. I have everything I want in life. Extra money in my bank account does not really mean much to me.

>>10938681
And being entertaining isn't really a skill. Nobody become a top streamer by working hard at it. Circumstances have to favour you

Jp

>Miko 557359020 117921.23

>Hal 467110256 35357.03

>pekora 664278586 25045.28

Hal stream every day, miko watchalong every weekend, pekora streamed 4 or 3 times only

>>10938740
yeah, sure thing ghandi.

>>10938631
not him but it would be nice if these people have families to feed, children to nurture, and a community to manage, which is, let's be real here, they don't have. All of this fucking money to run an industry of lust. Im starting to understand to why some people are frustrated with this whole streaming "industry". These people do minimal work for a large paycheck and yet these people seemingly mismanage their money for some reason

>>10938749
that's not hololive's Miko

>>10936313
No.

>>10935815
People raging about this forget about all the poorfag indies (or streamers in general) that never get anywhere. Do you get mad about other "celebs" and "stars" raking in the bucks too? The numebrs you are seeing are pure surviorship bias.
To get into a agency/group with a money ticket you already need to have delivered and shown some effort, AND luck out.

>>10938767
yes it is

>>10938739
>And being entertaining isn't really a skill
Yes it is. The vast majority of streamers are boring for the vast majority of their streams.
>Nobody become a top streamer by working hard at it
Yes they do.

>>10938767
It is, he just translated the name

>1692 さくらみこ 557359020 117921.23

>>10938739
Being entertaining is absolutely a skill. Some have it easier than others, but that's true of any skill.

>>10938749
Total right?

>>10935815
This can't be good for the economy...

>>10938129
And this is why nijiEN should move half of their talents to twitch. Not only you can likely numberfag the ccv, but even earnings.

>>10938740
That sounds bullshit. Nearly everything in this life required money anyway, even if I want to do good. Helping your family, donating to the poor, starting your own business, having fun, supporting your favorite celeb/streamer.

>>10935858
>minor success
>get's mogged by male streamers across the board
>get's mogged by regulard female streamers across the board
There's only like 1 or 2 women in the top 20 streamers. Men get more brand deals, cause no one wants to actually buy games played by women, and the ones who don't play games are too sexual to be associated with most brands.
only way most of them even compete is with an OnlyFans. don't worry, men still dominate.

>indies

Bao, Nemu and a few others I checked were at 50-70k in the updated lifetime list

Momo is 320k

>>10938805
The top 100 streamers worked just as hard as streaming as the thousands below them yet the top 100 make all the money and the rest get nothing. It's got nothing to do with work. Do you think Asmongold is one of the top streamers because he's the smartest, the hardest working, the most charismatic? No, he's the top because he's the quintessential basement dwelling WoW nerd, and fate chose him to be the poster boy for WoW streaming. There's lots of WoW streamers, lots who work harder than him, are more charismatic than him, but they aren't him. If you think you can get there just by working hard, you're an idiot

>>10938847
>>get's mogged by male streamers across the board
Men work more and have to be more creative and take more risks. Women are on easy mode

>>10938681
maybe for indie but if you can get into groups like Hololive or OTV and friends for real streamers, you're guarantee successful no matter what

>>10935815
Twitch ads are a lot more aggressive and some adblocks don't work properly there, I think they earn a lot more from ads alone than youtube because of it. I wish google would fuck up like this too.

>>10938830
Yes, in September pekora earned 9k from 1 stream only

Anyone got Snuffy yet?

Man, they were not lying when they said that you can make a living on twitch if you have at least 100 people watching you.

Do you people lack commas on your keyboards? Use them for Pete's sake.

>>10938898
1000 regular viewers is around the area where you can start to make a living off it

>>10938879
Actually, when looking at normal streamers vs vtubers, vtubers by and large make almost nothing on ads and almost 100% of their revenue on subs

Most streamers it’s 1:1 or more on ads. Nyanners for example is like $30k subs and 2.5k ads for august.

>>10938876
networking is a skill.

>>10938894
793 snuffy 515567425 225641.08
From the pastebin.

>>10938336
several holomembers have been playing with twich in the last few months. both miko and peko use them for watch alongs. partially for the amazon integration making it easy to watch together, but also so their paypigs can double on sub/memberships. the chats are set to sub only.

>>10938918
Nah mate
Craptcha: 24KYS

>>10938894
$225k lifetime

>>10938821
>>10938791
I got confused. If she's earning that much in twitch with barely any content, YT earnings already satisfy them not to move.

I'm happy my oshi is making a lot but that also means she can graduate whenever she's satisfied. A part of me desires an adpocolpse

>>10938918
Excel does not put commas in numbers by default, and the pastebin is clearly an excel export.

Anything on Saruei?

>>10938923
I wonder why though, are vtubers viewers on twitch more literate and are all blocking ads?

>>10938961
> USER NAME, user id and total earning.
2889 Saruei 122863474 216155.56

>>10938869
>The top 100 streamers worked just as hard as streaming as the thousands below them yet the top 100 make all the money and the rest get nothing.
The amount of money you make is not proportional to the amount of work you do. It's possible to create more value than someone else even if you are doing less work than them.
>There's lots of WoW streamers, lots who work harder than him, are more charismatic than him, but they aren't him
Why do people not watch them then? If they are indeed better, why wouldn't a viewer choose to watch them? Do you think people just force themselves to watch boring content for no reason?

>>10938986
thanks

>>10938985
More tech literate + the streamers don’t manually run a ton of ads like others do + obsessive fans

>>10938953
they mainly use twitch for watch parties because its easier to time with amazon/twtich integration.
I'm also subbed to miko nene and pekora on twitch simply because amazon already has my payment info and google doesnt.

>>10938953
I made a post about it in the numbers thread but basically Miko acted very intelligently and shrewd with her personal numberfagging.

What she did is true numberfagging. Plenty of Holos do watchalongs but Miko took her watchalongs to twitch. Not only does that make those watchalongs feel more like special events, drawing a bigger audience, but she is now double dipping with twitch subs and youtube memberships. I'm sure plenty of 35p have both her youtube membership and twitch subscription (like me, lol).

I'm sure seeing how much of a killing Miko is making by double dipping like that is what convinced Pekora to do the same thing.

>>10936309
>Koopa
89641.32 $

>>10938990
>The amount of money you make is not proportional to the amount of work you do.
That's what I'm trying to say. You aren't guaranteed money just by putting work into streaming. It's not a meritocracy, it's a cult of personality

>>10938961
>>10938986
2703 Saruei 122863474 78599.44

>>10938869
you confusing skills with effort. Dave Chappelle and louis ck are successful is because they developed their skills through years of grinding. luck plays a huge role, but if you think that alone is all that matter, then you will never get any where in life.

>>10935815
Reminder that this is only twitch subs.

>>10939008
Please tell that to Ame. Almost every week she does Watchalongs on YT.

These vtuber blew up the last couple of months:
Honey Goblin
Cimrai
Juniper

Anything on them?

>>10938953
twitch takes a much larger cut and has a much smaller overall reach. youtube streaming is kinda the red headed stepchild of youtube, but youtube's an ocean compared to twitch's pond. youtube also has slightly better algorithms for growth, once you get going it's a lot more steady. where as twitch channels around like 100-200 viewers stall for massive periods. most growth has to happen off platform via clip channels and shit like that driving discoverability.
but again, twitch takes 50% off the top and requires ads for partners, so even if it was slightly better instead of a lot worse, they would take a hit in income, driving away viewers with ads and giving 20% more off the top.
meanwhile, having both going means your members can also be twitch subs and you can double dip on that monthly payment, which is much nicer than SCs. sure it's less, but it's stable and not based on being able to get 3D streams or putting in a lot of work to make events like the sports fest.

>>10939027
wow, for 3k followers thats a lot

>>10939028
>You aren't guaranteed money just by putting work into streaming. It's not a meritocracy
That wouldn't be a meritocracy. If you spend 10 minutes drawing something and a professional artist spends 10 minutes drawing something forcing them to be worth the same price would not be a meritocracy. In a meritocracy the better drawing would be worth more despite the amount of time spent to make it being the same.

>>10939028
the merit is on how much you can sell stuff, being able to market your stream and find enough viewers IS a skill. the merit isnt on streaming ALONE, but the whole branding, and growing your audience.

>>10937401
Retard doesn’t even know the YouTube cut kek
You want to know how much Watame made from her birthday merch alone? low ballpark is $700,000 from the amount of signed cards she showed (which you only get by buying the full set).

>>10939128
Streamers dont blow up because they market themselves well

>>10936041
The ones donating their money to them seem to think otherwise.

>>10939146
What makes you think she gets a cut from the merch?

>>10939174
What kind of retarded question is this?

>>10939027
Koopa is doing pretty well inn such a short period of time. Good for her

>>10939081
4208 JuniperActias 598403800 52872.03
8346 Cimrai 657809859 28230.26
9460 honey_goblin 671084869 24818.83

I know Juniper's been around forever (/asp/ linked her more than a few times in its early days because she used to give advice on starting up), but I don't know anything about the other two.

>>10939174
How new/how retarded?

>>10939187
So you have no source, thank you very much.

>>10939165
>t.artemis

>>10939081
Juniper was like 60k lifetime. Similar to Bao and Nemu

Haruka at like $120k lifetime. Blessed moose.

>>10939204
Unless cover made a disclaimer about the % that they get from merch, then i dunno why are you here, this is a leak thread with actual numbers and sourcers.

>>10939210
Yeah, he ripped of Gura's theme verbatim and how well is he doing

>>10939128
99.9% of them do anon
what is up with this immense cope?
being a streamer is just being a internet entertainer/comedian, why do you think they are different from any other occupation?

>>10939225
>he

>>10939208
Nah, you're just a dumbass who doesn't even watch the streams. Plenty of vtubers in Hololive and Nijisanji have talked about this before. Merch is their biggest moneymaker and the cut is much bigger than donation.

>>10939208
coco said it herself

>>10939240
Artemis is a dude

>>10939240
oh sorry for that
>pedo

>>10939240
>lacking critical information

>>10939243
where? post the video and timestap.

>>10939252
Looks like a girl to me though

>>10939221
Chuubas have given literal powerpoint presentations, about how much bigger their merch cut is and how that's the best way to support them.

>>10936233
No he's right, this has been confirmed multiple times already. Superchats are the lowest form of income for the chuubas, you're throwing most of it to Susan and Cover.

>>10939267
Do your own research, jackass. Everyone else here has already done these reps.
Nobody is going to spoonfeed you. Fuck off.

>>10939027
Where the fuck did you get this number from? Koopa is not part of the top 10k.

How's Ninaninin doing?

>>10939275
>>10939242
post the source then.

So what happens from here?
I doubt simps will stop simping just because they know their oshi is rich.

>>10939287
The database leak has everyone, not just the top 10k earners. They probably pulled it from the full database.

>>10935815
This is just sub money, donations not even counted? Jesus.

>>10939269
Turn your volume on

>>10939225
did he not blow up or what? the only reason he didn't stay big was because he sucked ass at streaming. he was good at MARKETING and got LUCKY, found a huge audience for an indie, but squandered because he lacked SKILLS.
>>10939269
fag

>>10937401
youtube takes 30% default, twitch takes 50% default. both can be re-negotiated at some point based on numbers.
as for cover, coco said they take "another 30%" what wasn't made clear was if thats 30% of the total or the net, after youtube's cut. we don't have any indication so far as i know, of what vshojo cuts. we can assume its AT LEAST in the 10-20% range which is normal for a talent manager.
alternatively hololive gets a LOT more brand deals. animes, games, 7-11s and lawsons, card games, mobile games, now even some console and pc games.
on top of this they do concerts that were selling out + had streaming portions. finally there was the real bux maker: merch, again, coco talked about some of her numbers at one point, when she had like 200k subs she sold 100k USD worth of shirts, they were designed by her, so she only had to cut in for manufacturing and whtever cover takes, even if we assume she only walks away with 20k, thats just one shirt. then there's voice packs which have almost no overhead, and you get the idea.

>>10939315
>did he not blow up or what?
No? He doesn't have a huge audience, never did

>>10939317
>we don't have any indication so far as i know, of what vshojo cuts.
Comes from merch and sponsors only

>>10936195
You're a fucking simpleton. I share a board with you. I feel sick. I'd rather the schizo retards than you.

>>10939307
If koopa is not part of the 10k, she shouldn't make that much. At most, she could make is < 23520.42

>>10939282
Burden of proof is yours here, dude, this is the twitch leak thread, so you're the one that should fuck off since you're not talking about anything worthwhile;

>>10939287
6597 Koopa 54567086 89641.32
There is a full db in the leak though, pastebin cutoff is arbitrary.

>>10939252
I don’t watch them a lot but I don’t see how they have a man’s voice
Is this another voice changer deep lore shit or what

>>10939367
Still amazes me when people can't pick out an obvious tranny voice when they hear one

>>10939317
Vshojo actually takes 0% from the streams, that's how they get established streamers to join. Vshojo only gets money from sponsorships and merch.

>>10939029
>>10938986
How do I read these numbers?

>>10939299
Nothing will happen. People already donated to men they knew were millionaires.

>>10939336
https://www.youtube.com/c/ArtemisoftheBlueCh
what is your definition of blowing up? he is literally in the top 1 percent of all vtubers when it comes to subs. his debut has over half a mil, with tens of thousands watching it live.

>>10939345
Anonchama... you took from the wrong pastebin...
This is the correct one
>>10937953
>>10938307

>>10939232
>99.9% of them do anon
do what? your statement here is so vague i cant even tell what you're trying to say.
they advertise? yeah, everyone does, but it's also a skill, some are much MUCH better.
you have to be good at both to really make it. that's my point, people here are just looking at one aspect, not paying attention to the other elements.
being a decent streamer means jack shit till you have like 1k viewers and will show up in recommends.
even within streaming there's a thousand elements that go into it. how well you play, how interesting is your conversations, how well you respond to chat, how good you are at making "clippable" moments

>>10939310
It's everything that Twitch pays the streamer. That includes Ad revenue, bits, and subs, as well as any Twitch promotions or special events. For instance, penguinz0 hosts events for Twitch, so they pay him extra for that.
It doesn't include third party donations like streamlabs, nor does it include third party sponsorship deals.

It also notably doesn't include taxes. Most burgers here probably have their income tax automatically withheld by their employer, but having to document your own income to the IRS is a chore and a half, because they WILL come after you for their cut. Patreon had to start warning people to do their taxes because a lot of idiots not paying attention were getting audited for their furry porn commission payments, and ended up getting fucked by the back taxes they owed. Don't get me wrong, these girls are still making gangbusters compared to the average joe, but cut 20% off the top for good measure. More if they're not a burger.

>Vshit

I'm sure most vshitter simps are Anglos and spics. I think those Anglo vtubers are doing nothing wrong for their Anglo fanbase. They are however too irrelevant outside of the Anglo cesspit.

Jesus fuck Pekora and Miko earning 10k for a one watchalong stream

Insane

Anyone has Tsunderia's Twitch numbers?

niniyuuna
inukaipurin
YazakiKallin
matsuromeru
hoshinochar
miori_celesta
orlaganceann

>>10939406
Sure he's in the top 1% but looking at those numbers I don't think he's going to be able to make a living off it for much longer

>>10939447

>>10939399
>>10939299
It really depends if the word can actually get out or not. It's hard to gauge but Twitch on average is a low closer to downwind of 4chan than Youtube is for sure, so it seems plausible it will give at least some people pause knowing even a giant dono is just a fucking drop in the bucket to the girl and she will absolutely just feign being impressed.

>>10939451
6139 niniyuuna 121264422 37391.87
None of the others are in top 10k.

Donating to rich people has got to be one of the most cucked things ever

>>10939453
They’re already streaming on twitch too

Still don’t think they sound like a boy btw

>>10939495
thank you sir

>>10939341
>>10939345
yea there are multiple koopas on twitch, enough to make a troop even

>>10935815
Reminder that these numbers don't even include streamlab donations and some whales drop thousands each month on those girls.

>>10939474
Nobody watches Vshit other than Anglos and some poor third worlders like spics br monkeys and a few slavs. They are mostly simped by Anglo incels. Idk why these trannies are so mad but it's just a typical Anglo economy.

>>10939394
78599.44
$78,599.44

>>10939503
>Donating
Buy merch ONLY.

>>10939343
the burden of reps are on you, newfags

>>10939345
that seems odd. Look her up again. Her twitch name is koopa_ch, not koopa

>>10939528
nyanners makes almost as much as pokimane

>>10939508
>Still don’t think they sound like a boy btw
Do you live in a monastery or something and are perhaps unfamiliar with how females sound?

>>10939299
Nothing happens, the streamer culture, and vtuber culture especially are all about trying to push your favorites, they want their favorites to be rich, to be popular.

>>10939528
Asians in Vshojo chats aren't that rare. Especially Vei and Nyanners.

>>10939528
>Nobody watches Vshit other than Anglos and some poor third worlders like spics br monkeys and a few slavs.
German here. Nyanners is my oshi.

>>10939565
>they want their favorites to be rich, to be popular.
Exactly.

>>10939551
It's not the right Koopa, the one they're pulling from is just "Koopa" and has over 100k followers

>>10939503
Can't believe those Avengers movies took billions and none of us got to fuck Scarlett Johansson or Elizabeth Olsen
Fuckin bullshit man
I would've even accepted fucking Brie Larson in the ass

>>10939555
Is the only proof they’re a dude is voice tone? So Mori is a dude too?

I was expecting some solid proof

>>10939503
They're rich, have zero actual risks by playing a cartoon character, and don't even have to even entertain the notion of making any kind of sacrifice for the viewers like Holos are expected to. They just get it all and their simps defend it, probably because they simply do not know better and/or are heavy parasocial.

>>10939613
Mori doesn't sound like a dude. Mori sounds like a woman with a slightly deeper voice (although not really that deep honestly)
Have you never heard a woman talk in real life?

>>10939612
pretty much, thats why i pirate everything

>>10939612
You didn't donate a bunch of your paycheck to Scarlett manually every month after being coerced to/implied she'll personally notice and care for you if you do.

You bought a like $10 ticket to a movie once or twice and probably like 5 cents of that went to her if that and the rest to all the other actors, crew and industry people who brought it there. There isn't really an equivalency.

>>10938631
Talking about talent while talking about people talking and reacting to videogames lmao.
Anon, you know there are thousands of woman streamers extremely dull that only win huge amounts of money due to lonely men thinking they can fuck them. Thinking it has to do only with talent and not luck, contacts, manipulation, numberfagging and other factors is inmense copium; specially when many of the popular streamer talk themselves about how lucky they were to get there.
For every Watame there's 10 Ayames lying around.

>>10939551
only DSKoopa here https://pastebin.com/LjmaPNam

>>10939523
very true, just look at how much rushia makes thru SC compared to the other girls with more subs and viewcounts

Pekora and Miko seem to make an absolute shitload on a $/stream basis and yet barely utilize the platform at all. Presumably their non sc yt income would justify ignoring what seems like easy money. Pekora has streamed a total of 8 hours on Twitch and it paid out 25k! Miko with a larger volume is averaging about 1k/hour. The numberfag in me wants to see all of myth invade Twitch for a couple weeks and see what numbers they could generate.

What does Lilyhops make?

>>10939699
Twitch cut is too big when you're not a partner.

>>10939734
9690 lilyhops 137524728 24310.68

>>10935815
Why everyone act surprised?
It's so fucking obvious if you have more than 2k viewers (not to mention subs) you are loaded.

>"It's just 5$"
Really makes you think even more now

>>10939759
are any of the vshojo twitch partners? Also those numbers are after twitch cut

>>10939657
>being coerced to/implied she'll personally notice and care for you if you do
What sort of parasocial bullshit are you watching? My streamers don't lie like that.

>>10939792
All of them

>>10939758
not bad

>>10939825
They don't have to beg for donos for that effect, it's not so obvious/transparent a ploy every time. However if they are fucking raking it in while playing a hot girl they are doing something along those lines and absolutely have a lot of parasocials.

>>10939792
All of them are partners

>>10938842
I keep wondering why NijiEN aren't mainly twitch based unlike KRs, top western streamers much like gooks are mostly twitch based, my rrat is that their main market ain't even the west but SEA

>>10939843
I feel like you're in the wrong place posting in /vt/ unless you only watch ugly vtubers

First the bank hack and now this!

This is what happens if you let he paypigs do whatecer hey want!

>>10939853
Japan doesn't use twitch basically and a fair bit of the NijiENs either somewhat or actually-do speak Japanese, so I'd think their idea is crossover of the ample NijiJP fandom into helping buff their ENs. Plus it makes the ENs feel more actually legit under one banner since they're at least on the same platform, they'd feel much more like ships passing each other in the night if they didn't even use the same website (sort of like how HoloCN was mostly unnoticed by anyone at all outside China because most of them were only Bili).

>>10939896
I have no money and really need you to tip today so I can buy my groceries!! Ok? Sound good? *snort*

>>10939843
By this token a woman can't stream at all if she remotely makes viewers happy in any way. Even a 89 year old female streamer could be accused of fostering parasocial relationships by cornering the grandma market.
At some point it's the viewers' responsibility to control their own emotions and use their brains.

>>10939907
What if they were to start a Spanish or Russian branch on twitch? Would that work?

>>10939529
But what are the numbers on the right and what are the numbers on the left

>>10939938
I don't know honestly but it seems plenty of spanish use Youtube just fine as-is. Russians I have no idea and haven't heard of them being much a thing outside of going gaga for Botan.

>>10939950
social security on the left
credit card on the right
wacky numbers right of period

>>10939938
>>10939967
Spanish is fucking worthless. NimuVT is the most popular twitch Vtuber. Look at her earnings. It's pathetic

Broke ass south americans, 1 million followers and she's getting mogged by indies
NimuVT 495899004 62411.93

>>10939938
imo ES and RU will work better in YT, top RU chuubas are mostly in YT rn, twitch is mostly a stronger option if you're EN/EU chuubas

>>10939950
Left (2703) is ranking in the pastebin, it's unimportant.
Right (122863474) is twitch user ID.
Cash (78599.44) is total gross earning.

>>10938535
Those people are outliers, there's too many 2view who try to enter and get nothing for it.

>>10935815
This does not please the saviorfag.

>>10938758
veibae supports her family with her earnings since her dad developped a condition that made him too sick to work a job
Pretty sure ironmouse's revenue mostly goes to medical costs and supporting her family too, even with all that money she was still streaming on a toaster until very recently

>>10940194
veibae doesn't have a dad
ironmouse isn't sick
nyanners isn't a pink cat
it's all kayfabe, enjoy the lore

>>10940327
>Pink Cat Bad isn't actually Pink Cat
>She's just bad
What the fuck bro you can't just shatter my illusions like this.

>>10940348

>>10938559
qrd most people in the tech branch are autist, furries and/or have archival paranoia, you can literally got to any tech related forum and see how many have their fuckin furry oc as profile picture

Or you can keep it simple and lurk /cumg/ even though you'd probably not understand shit of what they might be talking about.

I probably shouldn't have to say this, and I don't know if it's going to actually matter, but make sure you fags do your OpSec reps.

>>10938535
nyanners "refined her craft" for 10 years while making peanuts too
veibae streamed to 50 viewers for 4 years, she used to be happy to make a hundred bucks in a month
ironmouse streamed to barely anyone for 3 years while bedridden

These whores don't have it as easy as you think and getting a meme degree doesn't make you more deserving of success than them despite what your bias tells you

>>10940842
From the creators of "/vt/ doesn't watch streams" and "/vt/ doesn't watch clips" comes the hottest new sensation: "/vt/ doesn't read threads".

>>10938480
Don't forget to include his second channel for occasional chill-streams and extra emotes.
>Rescue 130682.07

>>10939938

>>10940962
Why is brazil always there?

>>10939613
I get that /vt/ is wrong a lot. I mean some of them actually think Kronii is trans too, but artemis is 100% a trans woman. It's pretty obvious. I'm not even phobic like most of these people. But my autism leads me to notice small details like the princess and the pea, it's hard not to notice all the signs, the valley girl cadence, the starting high pitch but becoming raspy at the end. Husky voiced woman have more consistent voices, because that's their natural voice. Trans women need to train themselves to sound like that, because the vocal cords are permanently change by testosterone and no amount of estro HRT fixes it. They can't keep up the act 100% of the time and the small inconsistencies are glaring. Look up voice feminization on youtube and youll see what they go through to do it, and youll see the signs.

>>10941079
>But my autism leads me to notice small details like the princess and the pea
Being able to distingush between male and female voices doesn't mean you have autism, it means you're a functional human being

This shit just make me depressed, I have a fucking PhD and I release a few science articles every year, and I still gain 1/10 in a year of what they make in a month.

Should I get on streaming with and 2Dlive?

>>10941135
You'd make better buck teaching other people science using a live2d avatar with a kayfabe of a mad scientist from animes

>>10941135
being a scientist isn't a high paying job
these guys got lucky, the only reliable way to make serious money is to be into business

>>10941079
The whole reason people think Kronii is trans is because of there being "they/them" pronouns; however, retards think this is equivalent to meaning she was born a man as opposed to born a woman. If there was never the pronouns thing, nobody would think Kronii wasn't a cis woman. If she is trans she'd be born female then non-binary. Thread retards are just retards and think all "trans" means born man -> woman, and since her voice is deep never question it.

>>10941135
Anon there's a nurse chuuba that frequently has 24 hours+ shifts during which she can't stream, you should be perfectly able to become a chuuba yourself
I hope you have some other abilities as well though like a passion for your topic, good zatsu skills or something relating to arts like playing piano or drawing

>>10941135
These girls are the few vtubers that made it to the top. They're standing on the corpses of thousands of 2views that make pennies or absolutely nothing. Just getting a model does not guarantee success.

>>10939843
It's a completely open deal anon. If you donate expecting to get something in return it's your head that's fucked up.

>>10941102
I think a lot of people don't pay that much attention. I literally heard her speak for 3 seconds and knew she was trans. Not like I was gonna simp for her either way, the blatant attempt to leech from gura and EN, i mean she had her chat raid KIARA... pathetic. there's a reason why she's down to like 7k views on shit after a several 100k debut.

>>10941038
Dude, Brazil may be a shithole, but it is the biggest latin country. It's like asking why are indian channels so big on youtube.

>>10941135
When these amounts go more mainstream I expect a new wave of indie vtubers followed by graduation in three months as they all realize that without the money they anticipated coming in they don't actually enjoy struggling to find things to talk about for hours to five people (if they're lucky)

>>10941290
>I think a lot of people don't pay that much attention
Recognizing inflection in peoples voices is a fundamental human developmental process, you start learning it before you learn to talk, which is why its so baffling that these people cant recognize an obvious tranny

>The biggest and most successful vtubers on twitch are rich
What a surprise. I am shocked.

>>10938019
>Miko
>903 current subs
>am one of them
>don't even watch the watchalongs, just want to give her more money
And she deserves every penny

>>10940460

Nyanners is not pink and not in the stink.

>>10938019
there are more than a few vods that got deleted from miko. i watched them live, she did a watch along of something then did an episode of "the boys" but ended it there. peko also deleted some of her vods after the fact. so there were more streams than were listed, as to why they were wiped? no idea. i know peko did minecraft there for an hour, and a watch along that's not in the vods a few days later.

>>10941244
The real depressing thing is how many people overlook this obvious fact. If you're really dumb enough to look at the 0.1% who made it and think "I should have been a vtuber too" as if it were an easy ticket for success then you deserve your misery.

>>10941135
Problem here is someone is paying you a steady paycheck that's capped off after a certain amount. These people are being tipped a bunch of money, that doesn't have an actual ceiling other than the size and good will of their audience. Of course if you have a small audience that doesn't tip well or if the audience you built up suddenly says fuck you then that's a different story.

>>10941840
and yet everyone's trying to hop on now, as if you can just start as an indie and achieve the success of indies who have been going for 5+ years or corps who threw millions in funding at it for almost as long.

>>10941135

Yes. Yes you should

>>10942543
It's the same as those people who thought you just have to be very good at guitar to be a rock star or act your heart out and get a leading role in hollywood in three years. You can have all the talent and drive in the world and it might not mean shit because of the incredibly top-heavy nature of entertainment.
The first thing people always get told is 'stream only if you enjoy it for it's own sake' - but in most of their minds 'stream' is correlated with some income so they laugh and think 'Video games? Sure I enjoy it'. Until they realize that making fresh energetic conversation for hours a day isn't effortless and they're still running a net loss on equipment after months of it.

>>10936752
Most donations over there go directly trough streamlabs and won't be tracked by Twitch at all.
Bits are rarely used

>>10943596
>Bits are rarely used
Depends on the streamer
They're used quite a lot for sound alerts on Mouse, Zen and Veis streams

>>10936540
OP didn't make a judgement or talked about deserving or not tho, wonder what the fuck you read

Anyone found Koopa_ch in the file ? Not "Koopa", that's an unrelated channel. Her ID is 618467536 according to >>10936309

>>10935858
basado

>>10943687
Well that's pretty unusual then. Guess they probably put some reward under the use of those.

Adblock on. Never subbed. Never donated. Never bought merch. Never watch sponsored streams. Thanks for the FREE entertainment.

There are so many completely retarded and bordeline schizo posts in here being taken seriously. This board is fucked.

>Ironmouse is making more bank than simp queen Pokimane
Impressive

>>10944784
From subs. Direct donations are not included in these numbers because they're through streamlabs, not Twitch. I think Pokimane has whales that empty their bank accounts for her.

>>10945061
i thought pokimane limits the amount simps can donate now, or is that old news?

>>10945232
I wouldn't know. It's good if she does.