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Do you think it would be possible to pull a Four Leaf Studios (Katawa Shoujo) and make a VTuber agency originating from 4chan? I feel like such a thing would almost self-promote itself given 4chan's reputation. And if the talent avoided acting like they were on 4chan (i.e. nothing TOS) they'd probably be popular by name/association alone. I mean, let's be real, if the Vshojo whores can band together under a common banner, why can't 4chan "get shit done"?

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>>1113222
>those digits
Maybe this is a sign that we should make our own vtubers.

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anon...

>> No.1113285

>>1113222
any woman would be better off not involving themselves with this place before setting out on a career which quasi-revolves around japanese idol faggotry and puritanism

>> No.1113307

>>1113252
Yes I'm aware. But AFAIK no one's actually made the model and/or made motions that they'll stream as the winning design (or a runner up). And there's no way asian moot is going to make his own agency. He did the contest purely for press.

>>1113285
If you follow the Japanese style of VTubing, sure. I just think there's a sweet spot between that and the rampant sluttery Vshojo exhibits. Said spot would go over very well, I think.

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pastebin ain't that far away

>> No.1113374

>>1113222
All the notable girls that came out of 4chan were tripfagging attention whores/actual whores, aka same shit as Vshoujo. One of them is in Vshoujo ffs.
And what would you want them to do, anyway? Spout memes? Get banned across all social media for using slurs? Play /v/core games? Except the anons who embodied /v/core are long gone, so you'd just end up with zoomershit anyway.
It probably would have been a bad idea years ago, let alone now.

>> No.1113382

>>1113222
>why can't 4chan "get shit done"?
Because there is no unity in this place. There hasn't been for years, and even then, the projects and events accomplished before were still more rare than what was actually to be expected. I'm not saying this is necessarily good or bad, but it's the reality, and going on about how 4chan used to be in "the good ole days" is a moot compared to current year.

>> No.1113383

>>1113222
Hahaha ha
I don't think hiroshimoot is retarded enough to create his own end

>> No.1113404

>>1113247
Koopa and Carol are a start

>> No.1113649

The fuck would a 4chan Vtuber even stream?

>alright anons!, let's check on that bait thread... wow! look at all those (you)s I got!

>> No.1113712

This is the 3rd worst idea I've ever seen here since this board was created

>> No.1113723

>>1113649
Very niche games, and maybe podcast like discussions.

>> No.1113742

>>1113374
The whole point isn't to stream "4chan content" like >>1113649 thinks. You'd have them do the usual VTuber stuff like any other streamer. The point is more to do what 4LS did and use 4chan's popularity to build initial hype and lead to a fanbase forming before anything even happens. It's literally free real estate. And believe it or not, there's plenty of content creators that come to 4chan. They just don't actively advertise that fact because there's no reason to.

>> No.1113760

>>1113742
This is what the Vtubers that are already from here do, how new?

>> No.1113790

>>1113760
How are you missing the context this badly? An Agency as opposed to just random independents.

>> No.1113826

>>1113790
Are they not almost an agency to themselves at this point? Who's funding this? Do they have management experience? Do they have marketing experience? Are you the same anon who keeps pitching this idea over and over?

>> No.1113894
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1113894

THEY ALREADY EXIST YOU FUCKING IDIOTS

>> No.1113901

>>1113222
YOUR LOST YOUR CHANCE MOOT

>> No.1113915

>>1113222
we have enough vtubers here to make our own agency anyway, along with a male spinoff
Just look at the group of people Koopa interacts with, 90% of them are here

>> No.1113938

>>1113309
>In this board: People who claim to hate /wvt/ recreate /wvt/ step by step in their heads.

Bet you all dreaming of the day you could all find western vtubers that don't talk about politics and are shitposters too, even oldfags.

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>>1113649
Never seen a chuuba browse 4chan on stream before?

>> No.1113949

>>1113404
>Koopa
Yes, she even has some other 4chan anons who got inspired by her and became vtubers.
>Carol
The green haired witch? Don't even touch her she is REALLY unstable and only used 4chan for like a week.

>> No.1113987

>>1113222
Decent idea but not sure of the legality of using 4chan branding without hiroshimoot being involved in some way

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>>1113943
Sheep...

>> No.1114003

>>1113222
It already exists retard, /wvt/.
Check trash for the real thread /wVT/ is just the front desk they didnt want to move.

>> No.1114035

>>1113285
You are absolutely right, you only need to look at that Miki thread where she try to introduce herself here. Pure shitfest, and hopefully she listened to the anons heeding her to leave before someone starts posting her real life pics.

>> No.1114056

>>1113222
we dont need an agency, but the ideals.
We’d need a streaming platform that has bare minimum TOS.

Itd also be interesting to have a streaming platform where you cannot get followers, and everyday your account name gets randomly generated or something. Maybe get rid of the search function, and only have categories (like boards)?

You could have a streaming service (or just categories to sort by) where streamers are favored depending on how many days streamed in a row, on hours per week/month streamed, or something of that standard.

The great thing about 4chan is that theres no ranking (karma, followers, likes), so theres no filter. Vtubers are one step closer to becoming anon, allowing for more people to speak their minds.

>> No.1114113

>>1113222
Let's say there is a girl who wanted to join, what would happen after? We petition Hiromoot for money to pay for a professional illustrator and rigger? Who's going to be the manager? Who's going to edit the videos? I think it's a good idea, but there definitely has to be involvement from higher up.

>> No.1114309

>>1113987
You'd have to make a new company that was legally distinct, yet similar enough in logo/name that the connection is obvious.

>>1114113
The idea being that the Agency funds for the model, rigging, equipment, etc. and manages the Talent. That includes editing, social outreach, scheduling, and more. Half the battle is acting as secretary and keeping the Talent happy.

>>1113826
If I thought it'd work out, I'd fund it. I made plenty of dosh on GME and Doge.

>> No.1114321

>>1113222
>I mean, let's be real, if the Vshojo whores can band together under a common banner, why can't 4chan "get shit done"?
Back when 4chan actually "got shit done" people were way less negative and cynical. I blame /pol/ and /v/ as usual.

Even then the few projects that actually got completed took years or were of very subpar quality. The key to all of them though was they weren't some scheme to make money or latch onto 4chan's brand. Starting a 4chan-themed vtuber agency would just get you ridiculed for being a leech.

>> No.1114346

>>1114309
>If I thought it'd work out, I'd fund it. I made plenty of dosh on GME and Doge.
Why not reach out to the existing people who post here and try to set something up? We've got people here with real potential

>> No.1114376

>>1114003
For the front desk it seems really active

>> No.1114455

>>1114309
I don't understand what the point of latching onto 4chan as a brand would be. Signaling to the world that your vtubers are racist/sexist/etc to attract controversy? Attracting underage followers who think 4chan is edgy? Encouraging drooling retards and tourists to spam dead memes in your chat? It seems like it could only ever hurt you.

Just making your own brand and posting here would be more successful and insulate you enough to not be "those 4chan vtubers" that everyone ostracizes because they don't wanna get cancelled for collabing with them.

>> No.1114467

>>1113222
I will do it, but I'd probably say a few slurs on accident

>> No.1114489

>>1114455
he says in his OP that he wants /vt/ to shill for him and his agency, and basically be the baseline population for viewers and subscribers so that he bloat sub numbers to pull in normal viewers.

>> No.1114549

>>1113649
>vtuber troll-off. first to 100 (You)'s wins

>> No.1114590

>>1114309
>If I thought it'd work out, I'd fund it. I made plenty of dosh on GME and Doge.

Okay so yes you are the same anon who keeps pitching this over and over because each time this comes up that's how they mention funding it. No one's biting frend.

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>>1113222
>4Clover
It's pretty funny that this already exists down to the actual name yet so many people simply aren't aware of it. It's honestly for the best, though, trying to promote it as an actual formal agency with the 4chan brand would be a terrible idea and would attract the worst kind of attention from both off-site and on-site.

>> No.1118821

>>1113894
>>1113938
I don't understand how people don't already know the home grown chuubas. They stream for (You) after all, anon.

>> No.1118863

>>1113222
>Do you think it would be possible to pull a Four Leaf Studios (Katawa Shoujo) and make a VTuber agency originating from 4chan?
VShojo beat you to the punch by acquiring Nyanners

>> No.1120160

>>1113222
Talent agencies live and die on their reputation and ability to make connections. Who in their right mind would want to be associated with this place with the reputation it has nowadays? If what you want is actually just a bunch of 4chan using vtubers to come together under some banner, rather than an actual official 4chan agency, then that is completely up to them I guess.

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>>1113222
You're so damn behind

>> No.1120391

no. it would be absolutely cringy.

>> No.1120408

>>1113222
none because that will be retarded and they will be a hotbed of antifaggotry. They will never be monetizable too

>> No.1120420

>>1113649
Magicka collab
RTS
Map painters

>> No.1120441

>>1120420
Maybe...opera too?

>> No.1120486

>>1120441
600 views, one of them will do the reps.
Believe opera anon, believe.

>> No.1120488

>>1118863
stop shilling yourself here, whore

>> No.1123322

>>1113222
Please don't

>> No.1126920

>>1113222
You have power of funny magick numbers.
Use them well.

>> No.1131638

>>1113712
How bad are the first two?

>> No.1131670

>>1120488
>thinking Nyanners would post on /vt/ of all places

>> No.1131958

We don't have riggers and artfags to do enough shit
We can't be a agency

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>>1113222
>Katawa Shoujo

>> No.1132555

Honestly I think a "full anon" style vtuber would be pretty fun.
I have no idea why you people are so worried about the usual suspects whining at you. I swear this site has battered wife syndrome these days.

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Welsh Sheep Fujo!

>> No.1133360

bumping, this is an interesting thread

>> No.1133607

>>1132555
I saw a good idea in an older thread to just have a few rigged models and a public account that anyone on /vt/ can use collectively. The only real problem would be people going live and spamming nigger until the channel gets banned but we could probably work around that

>> No.1133730

>>1133607
I think that would work pretty well so long as you could prevent the channel getting banned like you said.

>> No.1133734

>>1113222
A 4chan agency may work, however, a TRULY 4chan vtuber would be a lot cooler.
I.E. the channel is operated by multiple people, each stream is done by anons who volunteer to stream, with one anon using the model per stream. Superchat is disabled/goes towards 4chan itself rather than the streamer at first. Popular anons then get hired and take a cut of the superchats.

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>>1113222
someone just needs to make a yotsuba rig and we’d be good to go

>> No.1133806

>>1133734
Showtan from /vp/ is exactly this.

>> No.1133818

>>1133607
>>1133734
/vp/ that shit doesnt work

>> No.1133932

>>1133607
And what stops people from changing the password.

>> No.1133934

>>1133734
>money goes to 4chan itself
Ok Hiro

>> No.1133961

>>1133734
I don't know about collectivizing the money like that, either we use it to buy commissions or just let whoever was streaming take their cut. To stop people fighting over prime time slots just make firm 3-4 hour blocks and only let people use each one once a week

>> No.1133987

>>1133961
mayhaps donate it to a charity or something

>> No.1134007

>it's another episode of "4chan argues vehemently that 4chan is shit"
Bros, your cognitive dissonance is laughable.
If you really believed that this community is shit, you wouldn't participate in it. You all are essentially making the argument that you use this site ironically.

>> No.1134034

>>1113222
Alright, I've thought about it a bit and here's how I think the optimal way to go about this would be
>auditions are held in a thread, anons vote on the best men and women
>ask vtubers that are popular here if they're interested in joining
>mods contact hiromoot, he agrees to provide funding
>hiromoot hires artists, have them make designs based on each chuuba's specifications
>have hiromoot hire riggers, video editors, whatever else we'd need
Any suggestions?

>> No.1134035

>>1133932
just making a new channel and re-shilling it

>>1133987
donate it all to the Gates Foundation to make schizos go nuts

>> No.1134075

>>1134034
>relying on hiroshimoot for anything

>> No.1134484

>>1134075
How else would we afford anything? Crowdfunding? Have them start as pngs and use the superchats to buy proper avatars?

>> No.1134603

There are already 4chan-grown vtubers.
Promote them.
>>1113309

>> No.1134697

>>1133932
I don't think you need to log into the channel to use it just a stream key

>> No.1135875

>>1133734

4chan vtuber collabs where all the avatars can be customized with the trappings of 4chan's various boards.

>> No.1135906

>>1134007
nigger
>>1134603
fuck off

>> No.1136210

>>1113222
Maybe you can pick up the failed Holo applicatants from /auds/

>> No.1136246

>>1113222
I believe in your digits, anon, this will finally be the thread to start 4Clover for good.

>> No.1138177

>>1113222
There is an /a/ project to make an anime that has seen no progress in a few months, is anyone interested?

>> No.1138298

>>1113285
Girls on 4chan are more pure than normal girls nowadays

>> No.1138364

Running an agency is hard fucking work. You're paying contractors, staff, business formation fees, doing community outreach and promotion. In the last several months I have dropped the equivalent to my entire annual income getting this off the ground. And remember, VShoujo has one of the co-founder of Twitch. The best /vt/ could put together is probably a decentralized coalition of VTubers who collab and support each other. Otherwise, there's no way you can take this thing and make it legit without sacrificing anonymity.

>> No.1138787

>>1138364
That’s why it’s a 4chan vtuber agency, so we have hiromoot to do all the employee hiring and equipment buying.

>> No.1139008

>hiromoot will do all the work for us
how new and how retarded?

>> No.1139338

>>1134484
My point was hiroshimoot is not reliable so he should not be relied on to go along with something like this. He just cares about the advertiser bucks and data.

>> No.1139822

>>1138787
https://desuarchive.org/qa/thread/2452130
https://desuarchive.org/qa/thread/2369102
This is why it won't work, hiro expected everyone to literally do it for free when he tried and made no effort at project management other than hosting a poll he ignored

>> No.1139930

Wait 4chan vtuber agency? Don't you need females for that? no ones going to watch a bunch of neets with dude avatars

>> No.1139963

>>1139930
we would watch ourselves

>> No.1139986

>>1139963
I guess that actually sounds kind of fun

>> No.1143305

>>1136210
Hi, first time posting in the thread. Stopped by to say that this would be a crapshoot. It seems like the point is to have home grown chubas who share the relatively similar values structure of a single community the same way hololive jp, cn and en sourced primarily from nico, billi and youtube respectively.

Having vtubers with horribly conflicting personalities and values would only lead to infighting and power struggles. Vtweeters, faggots, ledditors don't exactly jive well in public, which is where the vtubing would take place. It's better for each community to build and have their own than to pickup ragtag stragglers from hololive's dumpster and try to herd bitterly territorial cats. Diversity isn't our strength. The universal value of pseudo-anonymous candid discourse is. Vtubers from other sites don't necessarily have any kinship with us, and they couldn't necessarily be trusted given their tendency towards rabid moral imperialism.

>>1138364
>The best /vt/ could put together is probably a decentralized coalition of VTubers who collab and support each other.

This was already tried by BANS. They were a ragtag band of controversial indies growing, evolving, collabing and eventually formalizing under a single banner. Having an informal group makes it more dynamic but also devalued as a brand, as the lack of unity or logistical planning means that the individual streamers and sub groups would be considered far more definitive from a branding perspective.

There's also the inevitable natural human tendency to self segregate into cliques, which would likely lead to a two or more tiered dynamic where you're either in the club with the big dogs or might as well not be in the alliance at all. Managing everyone's interactions properly and fairly would presumably require an independent third party like a formal agency.

>Otherwise, there's no way you can take this thing and make it legit without sacrificing anonymity.

Agreed. Anonymous vtubers are a pipe dream if the goal is to generate and distribute profit. The goal should definitey be to source vtubers from 4chan and then have them be proper, legitimate vtubers who put their own spin on content creation based on their topic(s) of interest while being marketed to a wider mainstream audience.

They shouldn't be officially connected, related or beholden to the site itself. The association should be purely informal, even if it's practically an open secret that this is their back alley bar of choice and probable core demographic.

Given the grab bag of boards on this site, you basically have your pick of niches to pander to and a potential wider audience than even conventual gaming/singing vtubers. If you could find at least one good voice actor or personality from each board, that in and of itself would create a powerhouse team with broad appea and decent staying power. However, even that kind of roster would still bump into the biggest problem every agency faces: scouting, recruiting and properly vetting both staff and talent. That's the true final boss of any talent agency which can't be defeated by money alone.

Ultimately, what vt should be most worried about is funding and quality staffing before even worrying about the talent. That'd be something biz would presumably be far more adept at. Vt is only relevant to brainstorming about and critiquing the company's more public facing employees after the backstage infrastructure is already in place.

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>>1113222
Just for being related to this shithole they would be shadowbanned unless (You) made a pact with the 4 darkest watamages
>btw,Nice numbers, bro

>> No.1143892

>>1113649
>The fuck would a 4chan Vtuber even stream?
The Birth of a Nation.

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>>1133734
I'm interested in this.

>> No.1144692

>>1133607
>>1133730
>>1133932
No, dummies. You just let people make their own accounts and use the models with some collective tag. Then it doesn't matter if some rando decides to yell nigger a bunch, because they will be individually banned and all the other people streaming anonymously under that character identity keep streaming.

>> No.1146627

>>1139986

I just want to recreate a session of the UN except all the attendees are oshimen representing their respective home boards.

>> No.1150450

>>1114056
>where streamers are favored depending on how many days streamed in a row, on hours per week/month streamed, or something of that standard
YouTube already has channels that play 24/7 via bots, not gonna work without extreme curation.

>everyday your account name gets randomly generated or something
It's the Twitch equivalent of chaturbate except instead of random, you're asking a bot to take categories and get a waifu. If there's not enough streamers, you could just roll the dice and get your usual, and skip most of the streamers from the one you enjoy. Sounds good as an experiment, but sucks as a business model.

>> No.1150552

>>1133734
Has been done, TFV failed because they leeched from here, and got disappointed when crossposters started pollinating with redditards, leading to an identity crisis before death.

I'd rather trust a 4chan news chuuba before going back in that hole.

>> No.1151409

>>1113222
Can you generate at least $300k+ as a start up cost?

>> No.1151430

>>1113382
Consider /4cc/, which lasted a decade now. It is a project not even considered to be affiliated here, and it is done "for free"

>> No.1151453

>>1143305
I get where you are coming form, but the guys from /auds/ would be some of the few actually willing to put them selves out there in any way. Also consider that they post *here* for a reason. Their actual personalities and tastes aren't welcome among the redditors and twtubers.

>> No.1153560

>>1150552
TFV?

>> No.1158460

>>1113222
We have a unique advantage by being in the shadows and we should play to it.
What we should make is a VTuber Memetic Protection Bureau where we hunt down anti's and protect VTubers based primarily on memetic value.

>> No.1160230

>>1151430
There's also another group of people from here that do work for free and it's really poorly done.

>> No.1161064

>>1113222
Kuro is doing the closest thing possible with his Lewdtuber brand over on aco.
The problem is that chuubas from 4chan are fiercely independent loners and autists, and the closest thing you'll ever get is that sort of loose clique with a central hub to offer anonymous services.

>> No.1161170

>>1113222
Western shit is cringe, period.

>> No.1161187

>>1113222
Short answer? No.
Long answer? Fuck no.

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