/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>1115407
based manager

Enma and Jenma need a good fucking

>>1115407
Manager didn't want pekora to associate with kiara because of subaru's accident.

>>1115407
She will have to prank Shuba again, huh.

>>1115407

I have been wanting to see an Amelia-Pekora collab since forever.

I think thats pretty dumb. But Holo EN barely plays minecraft anymore anyway.
Ame and Ina havent played it in a month. Calli hadnt played it in a month until the Gura collab.
Kiara plays it once every 2 weeks or so.
Gura is the only one regularly playing on the server.

maybe when EN gets more members they will use it more.

>>1115407
EN management needs to be fired. All they've ever done is gotten in the way of anything potentially fun.

>>1115559
Good, no need to drag JP with them.

>>1115472
What accident?

EN server is dying, so a bad prank could ruin it.

>>1115550
It is dumb, especially since they can visit the JP server.

>>1115470
I Volunteer!

>>1115582
The fucking austrian just went to a japanese home. Of course you will know that it was kiara doing off collab with subaru.

>>1115569
this
en branch needs to fuck off already, keep ina only

>>1115407
Sounds pretty based. Saving the eardrums of EN viewers from hearing her screaming.

Nothing is ever going to change unless we get reddit involved. I want to boycott Enma but a few hundred anons isn't enough

>>1115626
I dont understand this post.

>>1115666
>666
Not falling for your faustian bargain with reddit, satan.

>>1115666
go ask for help from reddit and stay there while you're at it.

>>1115670
tldr: she essentially got subaru doxxed by going to her house and a stalker following them

>>1115407
Which part did the manager say no? From that clip, it said that if Pekora got permission, she would go. There was no indication about the answer. Pekora was just waiting for the answer.

>>1115407
It fucking sucks, but it's not surprising. They'd have to let Haachama back on the server if they let Pekora on it.
When Holo EN started, it v was v the v collabs that I was b the most excited about. Where are the collabs!?
When

>>1115878
welcome newfriend, this is the default state of rrat peddlers on this board.

>>1115744
How is that in any way anyone's fault but the stalker's?

>>1115407
Where's the proof that they didn't let her?

>>1115470
What if enma is a dude

Did anyone ever figure out what the thing was that Pekora's manager denied her, that caused her to cry on stream that one time?
I figured that it was Coco's meme review, since Pekora said that other members had been allowed to do it. And I figured that her manager reversed the decision after the crying incident and just let her do it.

>>1115712
kek

>>1115938
You're assuming that facts matter. They don't, only rrats do.

>>1115922
2:15

>>1115949
Maybe it's Subaru's 1 on 1 talk thing.

>>1115744
>Kiara is a shit magnet
>(sjw is a shit magnet)
When will they learn peko?

>>1115949
I think it was because her project ideas kept getting shot down by her manager.

>>1115666
Of course Satan would be a redditfag.

>>1115949
why the fuck hire managers with horrible skills?
are clover really poor or something?

fuck it imma learn japanese just so i can be a manager at the house of broken japanese girls

>>1115666
Reddit contributes enough normalfaggotry to this, the last bastion of good entertainment, so take your demon worshipping ways elsewhere

>>1115744

>>1115949
>peko complaining about manager on stream then crying
Clip pls
Can't imagine such a thing would go down well with the whales

>>1115949
Short version: she wanted to do some sort of big event as a way to give back to her super generous community and it was shot down. We don't have specifics beyond that because obviously she isn't at liberty to share the details, but it is pretty widely assumed that some aspect of the event/contest/whatever the fuck it would manifest as would either be more complicated then Cover felt it could handle or potentially had pitfalls that Pekora just wasn't savvy to.

>>1116020
What are the odds of having a shot with Subaru or A-chan after doing this?

>>1115922
Problem is, only 3 of the 5 EN members are able to understand Japanese in any way, and Coco, the most competent of the JP english speakers, is seemingly in the same boat as Gura where she can't collab outside of her continent.

>>1115666
not gonna happen
they love Enma

>>1115949
She said that it was something for her fans, right?
How that fit with being on a meme review?

Keeping EN contained and away from Hololive JP, the good branch, is a great thing to see. Let EN collab with Holostars instead, they can whore it up together and pretend to date each other.

The thread started because the OP couldn't properly read the translation.

>>1115744
Ogey

>>1116091
>>>/jp/

>>1115946
That's not how management works in JP

>>1116100
>implying faggots on /vt/ read
next you'll try and say that they actually watch streams

why the fuck does cover keep Enma? I feel all she does is prevent EN from interacting with JP in any meaningful way. What the fuck is the point of that?

>>1116091
>Let EN collab with Holostars instead
I wouldn't even mind at this point, but they won't even let them do that

>>1116091
Calli got to collab with korone pretty early on tho, Kiara collabs with jp regularly.

>>1115407
>but they didnt let her
No shit Sherlock, everyone can see that those western whores are a ticking timebomb

>>1116157
>it's been 6 months
pretty slow fuse there anon.

>>1115744

>>1115744
Ogey

>>1116131
Ina collabed with Mel recently. Kiara sang with Nene. Botan also helped her pack PC before she flew back home.
Seriously, some of these commenters clearly don't follow Holo EN at all.

>>1116157
Ticking sure is taking a while ain't it?

>>1116196
>bombs are immediate
I can smell an american in debt from here

>>1116220
There's a way to wrap this back around to the shitty "Tick Tock" memes from the hlgg threads, but I can't be arsed to think of it.

>>1116091
what a stupid thought

>>1116214
>rrats, antis and shitposters don't actually follow the talent
No way

>>1116214
That's great, I'm glad the smaller (sub count) talents are getting collabs with them. But why do they keep turning down the bigger ones? Is Enma playing favorites?

>>1116235
I genuinely wonder sometimes, do people like you ever consider if their insults actually have the first thing to do with the conversation, or do you just default to it because you have no other potential input?

>>1116116
Educate me

>>1116220
>>1116196
En faggits, like the trannies they are seething at the truth.

>>1116291
Do you want to say that in English?

>>1116057
If that's the case, it's unfortunate, but would be understandable why the company would deny it. Things like contests and giveaways can edge pretty close to violating rules against gambling or lotteries. And that's in the US, Let alone Japan's significantly stricter gambling laws. One would hope Cover would have hashed out some kind of compromise instead of just saying no though. They really dropped the ball there.

>>1116214
Based on the replies to OP, people here don't even watch clips let alone streams. I'm convinced half this board outside of individual vtuber threads has never actually watched any vtuber content and just guesses what goes on in streams based on what other people say, and those other people they're basing their opinions off of also probably aren't watching anything.

>>1116282
>what is wit and banter
Why does everything have to be spelled out for you EN retards

>>1116220
If other anon is to be believed Kiara got shuba doxxed, and aside from that has a history of various troubles.
Calli was a very vocal globohomo blm sjw cultist before holoen and with her mouth its only a matter of time until she slips up.

>>1116057
>>1115949
Something very important to note, she also said that she later saw someone else doing the same thing or something similar, and it was her thinking it was a personal slight against her that pushed her over the edge.

>>1116327
>>what is wit and banter
Something that you don't have

>>1116343
>If other anon is to be believed
He isn't. That's a fucking 5ch rrat and that stalker happened months after their collab.

>>1116282
Go back to reeeddit

>>1116288
The manager for Mel, yes that cute vampire Mel, was known to have sexually assaulted her. I don't think it's known if she was actually-raped or not but it wasn't good and was one of the fucking fattest rrats running around to ever come out of Hololive, back when it happened.

It is fucking amazing that Mel didn't quit from it. IIRC she said she was pondering it but her fans begged her to stay so that's basically why she's still around.

So what happened as a result of this is that talent managers from that point forward were made to be the same gender as the talent. Or at least, they're supposed to be, I don't know if it's true 100% of the time still but that was the general shift that the Mel incident started. My own speculation (which is just that) is that they aim for girl managers and the talent is given the option of a girl if it'd make her more comfortable, but, that the gen and branch managers (the talent managers' bosses) could be either way because they're not in close contact with the talents.

>>1116348
>I know you are but what am I-ism
EN trannies trade barbs at grade school level kek! You cannot make this shit up.

>>1116327
What was witty about that comment anon? Bants can be good, but just saying "lol american in debt" doesn't really lead us anywhere.

>>1116311
En faggits, like the trannies they are seething at the truth.

a non-linked EN server with only 1 gen on it was a mistake.
should just have been a few collabs on the JP server to build hype. and when ENg2 finally debuts, THEN you make an EN server.
Once we get 4-5 more HoloENs, i foresee the server becoming a bit better

>tranny janny erases him getting textually BTFO

Ah guess the meidos stepped in to nuke the more blatant trolling. Just to try to swing this back on topic a bit - I think it is important to recognize that we don't have enough context for the structure of Hololive's management to try and place the blame on anyone specific. People latch onto Enma specifically cause she was given a design by Ina and has basically become the defacto "face" of HoloEN management (sort of like how A-chan is who people think of for HoloJP or Shinove? (unsure how to spell it) is for Holostars) but we already know for a fact that there are personal managers as well as branch and generation managers.

Man, seeing all that manager bullshit shutting down all chubas ideas or just straight up fucking with them I'm glad Haachama's manager is based enough to let her do whatever she wants

>>1116473
I feel they'll always be retardedly behind the JP server no matter what because it'll always be a way-smaller number, and there's no rationale to separate them out other than to give into EN1 being dumb and naive enough to open their own server instead of use the JP one, or some prejudice coming in (from one side or the other) forcing segregation.

Also EN2 won't be out for easily 4-6 months I think, and so what? EN server will just be dead this entire time while JP continues to flourish? There is no sense of friendly competition on EN because there is almost nobody to show off fancy structures/buildings to. The big pull of Holo MC is socialization and impromptu collabs and you basically don't get that on EN without a planned collab. Moona's big rise was literally off the JP server which dispels naive bullshit concerns about lag or language barrier, they have nothing to lose and everything to gain. It's just a matter of people swallowing their pride I think, whether that be ENs or management or both.

>>1116523
No to mention the unpaid jannies(mods) on the subreddit.

>>1116542
Plot twist: Haachama's manager is Haato and Haato's manager is Haachama
They are also irl twin

>>1116542
Japan is ruled by seniority and Haachama was one of the first talents at Hololive. The only people that can tell her what to do are Sora and Yagoo themselves. No meme.

>>1116523
Yeah, Enma is just one little segment. We don't even know what rank of manager she(?) is. There are probably up to 7ish managers associated with EN if what we've heard about the organization is true, and that things like gen/branch managers are quite different roles than the talent managers.

>>1116580
ah yeah, they have a couple accounts that specifically mod for them as well, don't they? (I remember someone posting screenshots of one of them saying something vaguely inflammatory in response to some controversy or another to try and whip up more hatred of the reddit community)

>>1116564
Friendly reminder that the JP holoserver was dormant and pretty much abandoned for almost an entire year until around the Gen5 welcome event

>>1116603
That has to be a joke, managing 5 girls who stream on YouTube sometimes requires less than 1 person

>>1116611
Hardly, there are dozens of players on it. It's a matter of some big names not playing on it for a while.

Watame had pretty much single-handedly revived the server herself before the Gen 5 party as far as I'm concerned.

>>1116602
Nah even Haachama gets cowed occasionally, like when they forced her to stop one of her ASMR streams a few weeks back (or was it over a month ago? I swear the timeslip is becoming more and more real for me.)

>>1116622
We know for a fact that there are at least 3 managers in EN

Enma is extremely racist against the Japanese and doesn't want them tainting the purity of EN

>>1116542
>>1116602
Haachama was told to stop using the HoloEN hashtag for her streams.

Thankfully they didn't say anything about HoloEN0, HoloEN2.0

I just don't know why holoEN never plays the minigames. The realm subscription comes with minigames and pre-set maps from a curated selection every few weeks, its mojang/MS monetized so they already have permissions.

>>1116622
"manager" is a pretty loose/euphemistic term, I believe. Kind of like the inverse of "janitor" on 4chan being a demeaning term but in reality actually a really powerful user, more like jr. mod, a Cover talent manager I suspect can be more akin to a support role, like advisors/helpers, and liasons to the actual bosses who make tough decisions on things like ambitious collabs. I wonder if they're even paid much vs upper ranks, because it seems like at least some of them are longtime friends of the talents like Enma or A-chan, who apparently was Sora's friend from high school, we can assume these are not all formal business people, and that maybe only it's upper ranks wearing business suits.

Permissions I have no idea if talent managers even directly do much about that. Maybe they email companies on talents' behalf and such but I'd think it'd be something more formal from Cover's end to work on.

>>1115550
>>1115593
I legitimately don't understand why they needed their own server when they can just use the JP server like the ID girls do.

>>1116744
As far as we can tell the ENs themselves decided on it. However two things stick out to me about that.

a.) They did this before the month-long Holo-wide collab ban was lifted. They may have been really chomping at the bit to take advantage of their unexpected hype.

b.) We don't know if management in their infinite "wisdom" pushed them to make their own server out of their own prejudice against JP.

c.) It's puzzling how longtime fans like Kiara and Ina just went with it despite knowing just how critical MC is as Holo lifeblood and that they'd be exiling themselves from all the benefits by striking out on their own. You would have thought Kiara would have fought fucking tooth and nail to be on the JP server to be around Pekora etc. Maybe they were outvoted or convinced it'd just be temporary?

IS PEKOR NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO SAY "EN" FUCK OGEY

>>1116785
It's Pekoglish, probably never heard someone say "n" by itself clearly and/or just doesn't remember it sounds like "en", so pronounced literally just the tongue-to-mouth part of the letter.

>>1116670
Yeah, but just seeing how she simply switched to holoEN0 shows she clearly doesn't give a fuck, it's like if they'd ask you to not wear shorts at work so next day you come wearing a scottish kilt or kimono

>>1115407
Maybe holo management isn't really as bad as they actually appear to be and it's just the view from the outside looking in but man do they not help themselves out with their image.

>>1116785
It's a joke, idiot. She's censoring it because she wants to prank them and saying the actual name would give it away and spoil the prank. The joke is that there's literally no other server she could be talking about so censoring it is pointless.

i hope they just unify the regions on a single server when the new update comes.

>>1117049
hope so too

I think it's fairly obvious that HoloEN is basically a separate company and collabing between branches probably requires additional paperwork. The Haachama incident has also demonstrated that EN managemend are for some reason possessive about their assets to the point of not allowing JP girls on their server without a prior permission.

>>1117081
>The Haachama incident
The what?

>>1115938
pls undstnd Kiara is guilty by existing, at least in their schizo mind.

>>1117117
they banhammered chammers from the server

>>1117081
That Genuinely makes no sense though, because how the heck does HoloID function then? They seem to collab just fine with JP *and* EN.

>>1116205
What the fuck is that image? Now can I feel rats crawling in my head

>>1116853
I don't think it was malicious or anything, they specifically asked her not to use the tag that HoloEN uses. Any other tag is fair game since people aren't gonna wrongly associate it with the rest of the branch.

>>1115666
this
>>1115712
the best you can do is repeatedly gaslight them with posts calling into question these prohibitions on specific collabs (coco + anyone EN) and the MC server thing.

>>1117195
>That Genuinely makes no sense though
I wonder why.

>>1117004
Inb4 he was only pretending to be retarded

Man, I havent watched Holos in like 2 months and just popped over to see how things are going, and you guys have somehow gotten more derranged and neurotic since then. Maybe take a break from constant drama-mongering and go watch a stream or something, Jesus Christ

>>1117363
eh things are more or less the same, it's just that with the new board people can larp about their fantasies in their own threads instead of constantly shitting up one or two threads.

>>1117363
It's not always like this the EN girls are just lazy and when the EOPs can't watch Gura or Ame, which is seemingly most days, they start flinging rrats in an autistic fit.

>>1117195
I almost think HoloEN is the only one with a separate entity for some bizarre reason. Probably some corporate stuff going on with it.
Holoid is just Moona and all of her friends so they don't care as much.

Management has been a real fucking shitshow. I mean look at Subaru's incompetent fucktard. Thankfully she got someone with half a brain as a replacement.
>>1116387
Whether or not he actually physically assaulted her is unknown, but IIRC he'd call her in for a meeting and keep her there for HOURS (till dawn sometimes) talking about random bullshit unrelated to work, obviously in an incredibly creepy way of trying to get into her pants. Prime case of abuse of power because, being her manager, it would be hard for her to say no (to the meetings) and still maintain that autistic level of japanese politeness that's ingrained in their social interactions with superiors. Resisting his clumsy and creepy advances and eventually rebuffing him the guy's obsession flipped to hatred and he started his online harrassment campaign.
Cover did fucking nothing until Mel reached out to a lawyer, last of the last of the last resorts in Japan, no one does this preferring to fade away and suffer in silence instead.

The company will linger on for a few years before it sinks under the weight of its own ineptitude. A few good departments can't save a firm when the top brass are absolute morons who could barely manage a burgeoning VR tech firm staffed by a handful of autistic nerds let alone this media company it's turned into.

>>1115407
Aww man. We could use some more war crimes

>>1117195
i pretty much agree with this one
they stated before that they want to make EN very much their own thing with their own identity away from JP.
>>1117195
my guess for ID is that they are a little more lax on them because theyhad not planned as mch about them in beginning and they are seen as an asian market still.

>>1116276
>That's great, I'm glad the smaller (sub count) talents are getting collabs with them. But why do they keep turning down the bigger ones? Is Enma playing favorites?
They won't let the leddit doragon collab with anyone in their precious EN branch. They're afraid the increasingly irrelevant chink autists will somehow poison that newfound youtube success spurred on by EN1.

...I'm starting to believe that a lot of people in this thread did not actually watch the video.

>>1115945
Peko said it herself, you dumbfuck.

>>1117625
You should watch the clip first.

>>1116630
That's not exactly a normal case as she was planning something fucking stupid that'd violate health and safety in all but the most negligent 3rd world shitholes.
She wanted to do a ringfit stream all lubed up.
Great way to slip on those hardwood floors in her room and cause even more brain damage to herself.
Besides her physical well being there's probably some legal complications in her contract related to risky behavior too for that matter.

>>1117195
HoloID had the option of doing their own server too actually but decided not to because they thought it'd be too lonely.

So EN being on its own server may not necessarily be management meddling but we can't say for sure. It being protected so fiercely though, even from the fucking #1 MC buff Holo who would have brought a huge shot of energy into the EN server? Yes that is pretty stupid.

Peko basically said she was shut down because she wanted to do a prank, it seems. I mean, Peko shouldn't have fucking said that if she knew Enma (or whoever decides that for real) wasn't so out-of-touch to not know that pranks are near or at the #1 most hype content for Holo MC and this was in reality an incredibly generous gesture of Peko to do, that she plays a mischievous bunny as a character but the notion of coming to EN server would have been HUGE HUGE HUGE.

>>1117502
>when the top brass are absolute morons who could barely manage a burgeoning VR tech firm staffed by a handful of autistic nerds let alone this media company it's turned into.
"What do you mean we need a legal departmwnt who actually knows shit about copyright law"

>>1117601
No, really?

>>1117823
>>1117601
>watching clips
heh
what do you think i am?
some kind of reddit asshole?
lamaao

>>1117795
The weird thing is HoloEN have done minecraft collabs on the EN server and Ame even invited Reine to play on the server whenever she wants. No idea why the managers are so protective of the server when the girls themselves seem desperate for people to play with.

I guess maybe the logic is they don't want it to be too developed before HoloEN2 can join in? But honestly who cares it's just a minecraft server...

Some people don't bother watching the clip. And some don't know how the word "if" works.

>>1116693
A bunch of them are fanmade maps that Mojang got the rights for, so like with mods, they'd have to get permission from every map maker involved.

nothing would happen even if she logged in bc holo en server is simply utter soulless garbage and theres nothing to see

In other news. It looks like Cover setup a new JP server. After a period of 5 days with no minecraft content on the server Moona finally streamed on the server.

>>1118053
Wasn't it just the same one given a new IP address? Or is it brand new? Guess I ought to just go see Moona's stream.

>>1117870
Just imagine the JP girls simply migrating over to the EN server, because they got bored of the JP one.

>>1118102
Yeah, they reuploaded the files to a new server. It's not on the same IP as before Well at least it is not responding to pings on port 25565. I might try some other ports later.

>>1118141
thats the dream. Itd be nice if more and more jps started playing on it until the two servers became interchangable.

>>1117795
that shit is a pure speculation. funny that all of you autists believe if some jp girls join hole en server it will become dramatically fun even though holo en server is pretty much empty so far. also even if thats the case that enma girl decision is pretty reasonable because holo en doesnt even have any actual good shit. prank works when it already has an established value. otherwise it could be straight up insult.

>>1115407

Good.
Don't let this indog magnet anywhere near EN.

>>1118266
It wouldn't necessarily save the EN server, but it'd be a damn lot more exciting than what's going on it currently which is basically nothing+existential crisis.

I'd prefer if the ENs just move to the JP server and/or they make a gateway from EN/JP like they have for their resource server. But more interaction is better than nothing.

Pekora would probably have to upgrade the infrastructure of the EN server to make it even possible for her to gather the materials for her pranks.

Only Haachama is powerful enough to make Enma kneel

>>1118223
I have reason to believe: the JP server made the mistake of having huge biomes. The main area is one gigantic plain.

>>1115949
The current rrat is that she wanted to do whatever expensive project that Marine recently started working on to celebrate hitting 1 million subscribers
https://youtube.com/watch?v=0MPsmwMy6ps

>>1118266
Did you see what the JP server looked like when Gen 5 showed up?

>>1117502
>the top brass are absolute morons who could barely manage a burgeoning VR tech firm staffed by a handful of autistic nerds
Aren't top brass actually are autistic tech nerds? Yagoo is the CEO, after all.

>>1117795
ENcraft is basically Gura's playpen.
Gura is not a social butterfly.
Haachama and Pekora both directly intrude n Gura in different ways. Haachama by actually getting in her space and Pekora setting up a prank that only Gura would give a shit about.
Enma is justifiably terrified of Gura pulling a Senzawa and ghosting the entire community on the spot. Therefore, anything or anyone that has the known potential to make the shark upset or confused is barred.

>>1115648
i agree

>>1118698
Are we shifting the blame from Enma to the shark now? This rrat isn't outside the realm of possibility

>>1118359
im not really a big fan of holo en but id argue just wait for holo en second gen to join it. realistically speaking, 4 people are too powerless to make some impressive stuff or hold an event. 8 people however are enough to make some stable "town" at least if they arent lazy. cover will keep hiring new holo en members so moving holo en members into holo jp server isnt really a good strategy. hole en members should their own "culture" unironically.

when holo en server has a somewhat big/active town like that both jp and en members can actually interact well with each other like a relationship between two relevant countries.

>>1118869
>should their own "culture"
*should create

>>1118698
>ENcraft is basically Gura's playpen.
She spent the last MC stream starting a new shark house because she "didn't know what to do"

>>1118641
this scenario will become more likely when the cave update comes out and the EN server has more unloaded chunks to try it out on

>>1118901
that depends on if mojang can actually work out a way to let old worlds convert to the new system.

>>1117502
>I mean look at Subaru's incompetent fucktard
Spoonfeed me on this

What compels people to make up narratives based on very limited knowledge and then fully believe them as fact?

>>1118869
Each generation has 5 members, not 4.

>>1119170
boredom really

>>1116345
If true that fucking sucks man. Poor Peko.

>>1119170
General perception of ineptitude at hololive leads people to create explanations for it.
General rule of thumb for /vt/'s perception of Hololive problems is:
>management caused it
>widespread company ineptitude caused it
and if it's EN:
>Gura caused it
>Kiara caused it
It's fucking stupid.

Do managers not realize the Internet isn't region locked?

>>1115949
No, it was her own project, and will use her own money to persuade the management. Got rejected and cried, end stream after a phone call. Then she cried again on her membership stream, saying she felt bad because she couldn't return back all the love she received from the nousagis via this project of hers.

>>1115744
I thought this narrative died already

>>1119131
Subaru's manager deleted a lot of Subaru's gaming VODs instead of setting them on private.

>>1115407
seethe

Gura talking about wanting the new update to come out makes me think the plan is to create one united holoserver when Cliffs and Caves comes out and worldgen gets fucked, she doesn't strike me as the type of person to keep track of the minecraft dev cycle. This is probably just empty hope though

its sad to know EN is cursed forever because the greater community is unaware of the faggot manager's decisions and the girls are too much pussies to make their voice heard

>>1119582
Gura is absolutely the type of person that is a seasonal minecraft addict. She just wants new content to play because she's bored of the current content.

>>1119556
Thanks. What a shithead
Years ago i watched some independent youtuber who, when hit with yt bullshit, privated all of his videos and organized his own archive site with the help of his fans. Why a company like cover can't do it is beyond me.

The EN server could've thrived if they didn't ban Haachama.
She literally built a majority of infrastructures in the JP server. Hell even doing a massive project as the Tower of Babel. She's a good Minecraft architect. But no, they had to let the server stagnate because muhh separation.

>>1119556
I'm actually surprised that up to that point they didn't even have them locally archived in the Cover offices in case Youtube does something retarded. What the fuck? Hard drives are extremely cheap, what were they thinking?

They probably don't want JPs to go to the server cause there are way more JPs than ENs so if too many of them joined the EN server it would just be a second JP server at that point.

>>1119855
I'm still holding out hope that they'll lift these stupid JP bans when EN2 debuts and is able to get a foothold on the server. It'd be kinda awkward if they joined the EN server and the main spawn area was full of Haachama and Pekora's structures.

>>1115407
I'll buy that rrat, thanks.

>>1119855
separation is good. fuck your globohomo shit. if jp members joined it and worked hard in holo en server then itd just become like a holo jp alternative server and wouldnt have any identity as holo en. if holo en members cant build any good shit then they are just incompetent assholes who dont want to improve themselves, and should accept it.

>>1115470
>Jenma
Thats dumb. Enma is Enmna because of EN+manager, so Jenma makes no fucking sense.

>>1119855
Thats why management kicked her out. The EN girls dropped minecraft aside from Gura, who doesn't know what to do after building everything she set out to make.
Having an esl minecraft pro build the shit out of the EN server only benefits the og numberfag.

>>1120067
retard

>>1116070
A-chan is marriage material. A woman that can get shit done.

>>1115744
People are shitting on this, but not explaining why.
The biggest reason this is bullshit, is that the Kiara off-collab happened weeks before the 5ch dude found Subaru's house. So the two being connected is not that saliant of an assumption.

>pekora makes a prank on the EN server
>nobody ever even finds it since nobody plays on the fucking server

>"it's kinda lonely on the EN server"

>>1120168
That is the pain-peko moment.

>>1115407
Enma wants the EN server too die so she doesn't have to pay for it

>>1120168
This actually happened with Gura months ago trying to create a prank but literally no one visited it. Not that it matters since she also never finished it.

EN server is fucking dead. The EN girls are too normie to have Minecraft autism like the JP's.

>>1115949
She talked more about it in this member's stream before the incident
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0iqxh5ltd8&list=UUMO1DCedRgGHBdm81E1llLhOQ&index=4
It's time stamped in the comments

What if one of the ENs invite Pekora to build such a prank structure?

>>1115648
>>1118753
Why do you hate EN branch?

>>1120871
It's not their place to invite any non-EN holos. Anything beyond EN holo only is manager permission county.

>>1120917
they're /jp/ idiots and only like ina because she's asian

>>1120919
Does Cover even pay for the EN server? Since it is a realms server I assume one of the vtubers pays for it. If it's not Cover's server they can invite whoever they want.

>>1120999
That's not how being under management works.

>>1119215
> Holofive

>>1116148
Kiara wants to be the sole and only point of contact with jP. That's why she emotionally manipulates Calli into ceasing further collabs, and why she constantly attacks Ina, because Ina just ignores her.

She mostly ignores Gura and Ame because she knows they are dependent on her to know Japanese in anycase.

She is also the driving force behind the isolation of Haachama and Coco from interacting with EN, because they are direct threats to her position.

>>1120431
i mean holo en members arent really interested in gaming in general.

>>1120936
pure /jp/ posters would hate her because shes korean

>>1121086
ogey

Enma is a SJW, they don't let JP girls enter EN because "It will hurt Ina and Korean people especially my oppa"

>i want to collab with EN
woah ok pecor what'll it be
>minecraft
excellent. people love pekora minecraft content. so you're gonna invite them over and have some kind of usadakensetsu recruitment? I know a bunch of people have asked for collabs with EN so this could be a great way to have a big event. what a great idea
>no actually i was going to go build a prank on the en server
you mean the server with 5 people?
>yeah.. but it'll be good content and people will watch
you mean people will watch you play minecraft and then they'll also watch the extremely popular EN branch? hmm well it's an interesting idea pecor we'll think about it and get back to you
>ogey

>>1115407
Imagine having to ask permission when the vtubers are the one that actually create content for Hololive.

>>1115407
>wanting to play with EN subhumans
someone is asking for a graduation peko

>>1120090
>after building everything she set out to make.
>Atlantis still not built
>she literally said she ants to do something simpler before undertaking a project that big, then decided to move her house for some reason
Depression and nihilism fucks you up, I guess

I fucking TOLD you guys they did a forced segregation in minecraft which is why haachama had to leave. You all wanted to pretend it was just a rrat

>>1117625
No. she didn't.

> No JP/EN collab cause of one incident in Among Us
> Forced Haachama to leave the EN server and stop the 0th gen gimmick with Coco
> Blocked Pekora from playing on the EN server for the same reasons
> Blocked COCO from EN collabs
> Told Gura to not say 1 million
> Blocks Mori from doing some JP collabs, especially the fabled Suisei collab
> Stifled any real relationship the EN JP and ID girls can have to a point where it feels dead
> Is Korean
> Cut Ina's karaoke list in half due to songs "not being approved", despite the stream being unarchived

ENMA HATE

>>1121519
>Cut Ina's karaoke list in half due to songs "not being approved", despite the stream being unarchived
this one was miscommunication from inas side.
https://twitter.com/ninomaeinanis/status/1365453891253411841

>>1115470
Jenma is based though

>>1121519
>Forced Haachama to leave the EN server and stop the 0th gen gimmick with Coco
They forced her to stop using the EN hashtag, they let her do her EN gen 0 stuff

>>1121584
Ina is just covering for her fellow gook

>>1121519
So is Ame pretty much safe from the wrath of Enma because I dont think I ever see her name on the lists of what Enma has cucked.

>>1121519
>> No JP/EN collab cause of one incident in Among Us
What incident? I watched the collabs nothing bad happened that I remember.

>>1116091
Based

>>1121660
They killed the shark too much.

>>1121647
Ame has played it safe so far, only collabing with low profile JPs

>>1121789
I wouldnt say Haachama is "low profile"

>>1115407
Good, they need to protect Pekora from that filth.

>>1121519
> Told Gura to not say 1 million
For what purpose?

>>1118359
They definitely need to consolidate ALL of the HOLOs into one server when the Cliff & Caves update happens. If they don't do it, they'd be utter morons.

>>1121865
They were butthurt she swiped it from Korone, typical Japanese MUH HONOR RESPECT YOUR SENPAIS shit.
Ultimately it's a rrat, but a very believable one. Gura literally REFUSED to say the number, did a very vague and ambiguous "thx for your support" stream as celebration that didn't mention the sub count at all. You might say, maybe it's all Gura, maybe she just feels bad about it, but here's the thing. Gura said that a real proper celebration for the number she's not allowed to say was in the works, something Cover was supposedly organizing. It never fucking happened. They lied to pacify her and not look like villains.

Now the 2m subs "suddenly" had none of that bullshit, and "suddenly" she did a normal numberfagging celebration stream and said the number without the weirs censorship. Gura didn't suddenly change her mind a decide to be """"rude"""", Cover simply didn't give her a gag order for 2m

>>1121915
The Japanese fear the chad shark.

>>1120009
Fuck you, all of the HOLOs should be on one server. My poor boys in HOLOstars are neglected.

>>1121915
it's a very dumb rrat

>>1121913
The ping on Japanese servers from the US is fucking awful.

>>1121705
That's funny. Primo content.

>>1115456
FPWP

>>1121660
HoloEN fans are children who got mad because Gura kept getting killed by imposters in a game where imposters are supposed to kill the crewmembers.
Yea, it makes no sense.

>>1120009
This opinion is stupid and wrong.

>>1122148
I mean Gura really didnt get to play the game at all. But her dumb chat got really salty.

>>1122382
I'd say she came into the game with the wrong mindset which amped up her saltiness even more. Impostor is fun but being a crew is part of the game too.

>>1116564
You don't remember that ID being on the JP server was controversial? It's only accepted now because Moona grinded like crazy and only got a boost after the others and didn't overtake them.
If EN joined at the start it would've been a massive source of drama. That being said they should probably join now since they clearly got the subs on their own.

>>1122148
The rrat is that it was Gura's saltiness over no one listening to her explain she wasn't imposter and she knew who was that pissed her off and made JP wary of collabing with ENs and Gura specifically. It's been blown out of proportion by chumcucks but Gura admits she was genuinely ticked off.
Also, fans gave Kiara and Iofi shit for not live translating every word not spoken in English while they were playing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRZ36YG2wcM
This one collab including Luna is the only contact Gen4 has had with EN

>>1116744
The ID girls are on the server because it was originally just Moona. Iofi and Risu weren't interested at the time, Gen 2 hadn't debuted yet. If it wouldn't have been LITERALLY just Moona playing alone the IDs probably would've had their own server too.

ENs don't even play minecraft anymore how would letting them play on JP change anything.

>>1121396
this

Jp holos mostly play along with Pekora because it gives them an opportunity to react. EN holos have flat anticlimactic reactions to everything. How would it look if pekers spent all day making a prank and gura just says "well that was weird huh chat" and walks away

>>1123011
yikes, now that you say this, it really sounds like EN don't deserve the peko

>>1115456
based Enma

>>1115648
INA LOVE
EN HATE

>>1123011
that shit is very predictable. cynicism like that is one of the reasons that has made american comedy shows boring and soulless.

>>1123011
Imagine the salt if that really happens.

>>1123011
that's fucking hilarious in its own way

>>1123011
based

>>1121396
the audiences are different. most eops watching gura and such dont really want japanese stuff

holo en can make their own contents for their audience.

>>1123011
>EN holos have flat anticlimactic reactions to everything
That's only Ame.
Even Mori has enough sense to know when she's supposed to overreact and scream autistically

>>1123011
This
Just watch the first EN&JP collab in Among us, especially when they got killed. The JP girls all go EEEEEEEEEHHHHH while the EN girls go Eh, expect for Kiara who got previous idol training to react for such occasions

>>1123972
mori can adapt herself to japanese boke and tsukkomi comedy as both roles, if she can be fluent in japanese

>>1115744
Imagine believing in 5ch rats.

>>1124202
yes and?

>>1123011
I 100% believe EN management is trying to protect EN from some esoteric Hard Yab in a collab, like Pekora pushing Gura in lava and her fanbase throwing a fit, or Pekora building a bigger The Sorrow and EN just breaking the door to get out with no reaction other than "oh it closed lmao ey pekochan you should put a button on the inside so it opens".
Also, most of the stream-content-worthy constructions in the jp server only really work because the JPs are 30 people giving you potentially 30 clippable, stream-padding reactions. Making Watame's janken machine on the EN server would be a waste of time since you're gonna get at best 4 different reactions.
When EN gets its second or third gen, it'd be good to open it to JPs. But as it is now its just 3 people.

>>1116023
>the last bastion of good entertainment
Nice joke

>>1115744
How the fuck is that Kiara's fault? You chicken antis are getting more desperate by the day, that's pathetic.

>>1122484
>only contact gen4 has had with EN
Well except cloudy sheep

>>1123972
Mori has probably the worst, most inauthentic reactions to anything that happens to her because that's her entire personality. Her entire character is hamfisted 'jim looks at the camera' irony

>>1118646
>Marine getting special treatment
What a shock.

>>1122484
luna is the most skilled comedian in holo jp especially in a one on one collab. shes pro at analyzing others personalities, so no

>>1122148
Gura kept talking to the JPs like they were fluent in English. Ame was smart and talked to them using simple words.

>>1124677
wut faggots cant even read english

>>1121114
she's canadian though

>>1116387
>I don't know if it's true
Yeah, that's all I need from this post.

What's the rrat on Suichan's recent fight with management?

>>1117502
If cover just fucking died and the chuubas started their own company, they'd do a better fucking job (assuming there would not be big animosity between some of them)

>>1126079
>they'd do a better fucking job
they'd just be the Creatures all over again and spiral out of control.

imagine supporting a company that forbids their talent from even playing fucking video games lmao
holotards are truly brainwashed

>>1124520
she wasn't careful, pretty moronic of her to endanger her colleagues

>>1126384
I don't support cover, I exclusively donate to my oshi's roommate

>>1125036
korean canadian

>>1126375
At least whatever would happen to them would be their own fault.

>>1115456
This

>>1126459
the creatures and now offline tv have proved that you need management with these youtuber groups otherwise it's not going to work out

reminder to delusional EN holofags, none of them there relevent untill they joined Hololive. Idea that they could acquire popularity gathered because of Hololive presented opportunities again after going independent is insane.

>>1126514
I didn't say they should not have management. But they could hire whoever they want and fire them when they would do a shitty job.

>>1126563
*were relevent

>>1126579
and look how that worked for the creatures

>>1123499
Yeah like overreacting is the most funniest shit ever. That is why i don't care for most of comedy anime.

>>1126652
I'm a zoomer. I have no idea who the fuck are the Creatures.

>>1124616
>most inauthentic reactions
You think Japs are gonna notice that?

>>1115407
Based EN managers, let the roasties in their containment server plz do not plague true hololive with their bullshit

>had to censor herself when she says "EN"
why tho

>>1126688
the original hololive, offline tv, big group of let's players all living together. except they started a company and hired their own staff but eventually self destructed under pressure and 2/3 of the members quit youtube temporarily (some for years) or in some cases permanently. two of the members who got out early formed cow chop but that fell through too. they're really the first big superstar "group" of youtubers. the entire website seemed like it was about them for a couple years there.

>>1126896
Thanks for the explanation. I don't think they'd be bound to fail. Rather, it's that most people who try something like this fail simply because most people are just not capable of running their lives well. It would probably happen here too, but I'd rather see them try do something by themselves and fail than see them slowly die off because of Cover's ineptitude.

>>1120067
J = (((Jew)))
En = English
Ma = Manager

>>1126688
>>1126896
Since I know who the creatures were and eat he'd them for a few years before the collapse, am I a millenial? Was born in 1999.
Also saying that YouTube revolved around them is a bit of an overstatement, same if you claimed that for Yogscast. They were big but not that big.

>>1119131
what >>1119556
said.
They did more fucking dumb shit besides this but it's too depressing to even think about. Just know that Subaru's in a WAAAAAY better place nowadays with her new otaku manager woman. Hopefully that other person was dumped on the curb.

>>1119877
>what were they thinking?
>thinking
lmao
Though you'd be surprised at how this one simple trick to save you from disaster is so very often ignored.
Hey anon, have you saved your work lately?
lol

>>1127374
Well, I'm 2000
I mostly watched non-English Youtubers at that time.
Other than that I only ever watched Pewds and Nanners and their groups.

>>1127569
nanners often collabed with the creatures back in the day

>>1127374
>>1127569
if you remember life before 9/11 you're a millennial, if not you're a zoomer.

>>1116623
it still hardly people playing it considering they have 20+ JP members already

>>1127607
I looked at the list of their members and I only recognized Chilled and Gassy. I watched those sometimes too. Maybe I just don't remember the others. Never knew that something like the Creatures existed, though. Maybe I've heard of it before and just forgot it.

>>1126423
Now that's based.

>>1116580
subreddit mods are full-time cover staff thought.

>>1118698
I Dunno man, i don't like Gura that much but i don't feel like she would actually act like an autistic child in real life that throws a tantrum if she doesn't get what she wants, she is an adult as well afterall and i doubt she developed a "diva" personality just because of her amount of subs

this thread is just a minecraft schizo containment zone isn't it

>>1117133
as long as she draws breath I will have a reason to shitpost
the cycle must continue

>Pekora self-censored EN.
The fucking hell WHAT?

>>1127745
chilled and gassy were kicked out/left around 2011-2012.

>>1117753
>She wanted to do a ringfit stream all lubed up.
Haachama really is a crazy girl, isn't she? I used to think she might have been a media genius with all the crazy stuff she put out there, but she really might just be a weirdo.

>>1127793
I dunno the among us collab felt like her legitimately throwing a tantrum towards the end rather than an act

>>1120009
> wouldnt have any identity as holo en
summarizes holo en in a single sentence pretty much

>>1127793
>>1128084
There is a very distinct maturity difference between the JP and EN.

>>1120009
Should it really have a separate identity, though? What's the point?

>>1121975
Also this.

>enter thread
>rrats so old they're putrefied down to skeletons
>leave thread
anyway, ENMA HATE.

>>1123011
Gura and Ame did explore The Sorrow when they visited the JP server. I seen to remember them having a fun reaction to it.

>>1128084
Then you have kanata literally crying at the end of Among us after getting voted off twice as crewmember. you fags get way too mad about that collab for no good reason..

>>1115407
Of ALL the people to tell "No," to joining the server, Pekora, Ms. Introvert Extraordinaire, should not be one of them. The literal hell is going on? Why is Hololive self-destructing with these stupid rules?

>>1123011
I think Pekora's flabbergasted expression would be the entertainment.

>>1128271
>Pekora: Wait... WHAT? Why didn't they react? Did I not kill them hard enough?

>>1128242
To overcompensate for last year where 6 of their talents said nigger on stream.

>>1118646
>10 Million Yen
>£67k / €77k / $93k
What the fuck

>>1127887
There's ONE anon who is really buttblasted that HoloEN is bored of Minecraft already, we have the same thread about once a week with the OP updated with whatever recent schizo rrat he just discovered. The OP's writing style is always similar, if you were compare thread start times they'd probably be similar too. The rest of the board doesn't give a shit and openly hates minecraft streams, so yeah these tend to be Minecraft autism containment/management rrats.

>>1128232
https://youtu.be/wYJPZ0InJtQ
compare that shit to an of these
https://youtu.be/72bZZ2e4CMQ
EN isn't even smart enough to find it, nevermind react to it.

>>1128372
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlDE4kWnTfM

>>1126563
Gura had a 1M subs channel wherein she shitposted and did nothing that one could consider content.

Mori was getting some success in the amateur music scene, and her stuff is very good.

Kiara was a successful version of a weeb and cosplayer.

Ina, I don't care enough to know, but she isn't relevant now.

>>1115407
>>1116057
do you think she is thinking about quitting?

>>1128593
>Mori was getting some success in the amateur music scene, and her stuff is very good.
pfffffttt
>Ina, I don't care enough to know, but she isn't relevant now.
PFFFFFFFFFTTT HAHAHAHAHAHA She's literally an illustrator and way more successful than queen of cringe

>>1128704
The Ina thing was a joke, I just don't find her interesting. Mori's music is good, though. She just needs someone to help her out in bringing some power to it.

>>1128454
This hurt to watch.

>>1115407
everything went to hell when Gura throwed her tantrum in among us, imagine all the holos apologizing to Gura for playing a fucking game, blame the cucked chumbuds for this.

>>1116783
They needed an early collab content for when they all finished debuting and minecraft was the safest one. None of those girls actually like minecraft except for Gura, maybe

>>1128593
>Mori was getting some success in the amateur music scene

No, she is not, she is literally a starvation artist and have to juggle 3 jobs to feed herself until being Holo

>>1116205
This is one of the worst images I've seen on 4chan and I frequent /b/ daily

>>1128768
your thinking with your dick anon her rapping is outdated and shit, its not 2002 stop with the fake hardman voice that's why most uk rap is shit beyond belief

>>1129919
so outdated she raked in millions of views and topped charts with it

She seems to be doing pretty well for herself on Spotify.

>>1129919
I don't even know what she looks like and she's probably too sooner for me. I do know that she raps the way I like it, and not that mumble rap shit. Eminem and Dr. Dre not 6ix9ine and Future, okay? Dog bless hip hop.

>>1130362
Here’s hololive.
Marines ahoy has the largest individual at 2 million plays.

>>1128234
>you fags get way too mad about that collab for no good reason..
Gura didn't even try to speak slowly for the JP members at all and started giving everyone attitude towards the end when they were just trying to have fun. Calli even helped try to explain what she was saying but she kept screaming over everyone so the JP holos were just confused.

>>1130581
>Marines ahoy has the largest individual at 2 million plays.
As it should be

>>1130581
all me

>>1119170
Years of watching Cover fuck things up. You learn to not trust them and have a jaded reaction to hearing talents' own ideas and will getting shut down for little good reason. Literal children on youtube don't understand this process, like they can't comprehend there might be less-than-good employees at Cover, don't understand how a company works. The reddit is a corporate mouthpiece, of course you can't review all their incompetence there and their purebred yes-men army just sucks Yagoo's dick.

Things like the Mel incident were covered in this thread but permissions arc/Holocaust weren't even reviewed here.

>Cover claims they have people working on copyrights and everything will be fine
>has holos stream a ton of games, almost anything they want, assuming everything is fine, for months and months
>half a year later, it turns out no, things weren't fine, they had acquired basically no permissions at all and didn't do shit
>double-tap strike copyright strike (thanks Capcom) on Mio brought her to within a fucking hair of being permabanned off Youtube, merely got a channel suspension.
>holocaust ensues. tens if not hundreds of thousands of hours of JP VODs going back to the dawn of time all privated forever to cover their asses to try to prevent more strikes, Subaru's channel archive actually-nuked entirely and permanently

They DO make mistakes. Frequently. Management makes calls on some things we'd consider good sometimes like blocking Mori from doing stupid shit with ecelebs, but in particular around EN server and with certain members (not) collabing it's questionable what wisdom really is leading those calls, so much as manipulation and internal rivalry within the company spilling out into the actual content. We don't like seeing hints that someone's ego is getting in the way of good content. Nobody should.

>>1130235
>deadbeats will stream her music all day because they're deadbeats

this really doesn't prove anything about the music being good. in a vacuum where there's no massive holo push behind her, there's nothing outstanding about her beats and her flow is objectively not that great.

>>1131134
In a vaccum where theres no massive Dre push behind Em, theres nothing outstanding about his beats and his flow is objectively not that great
Plus when he's not whining about his mom he comes off as cornball.

>>1130966
Also I forgot to clarify, Mio's account suspension was IIRC 2 months.

For all the haughty newfags here, imagine if Gura or Ame suddenly were blocked on Youtube itself for 2 months out of the fucking clear blue sky, over something they didn't personally do wrong, but were led into believing was safe by Cover and as it turns out wasn't, and walked into a trap of their own making. It is jaw-dropping incompetence on display, over and over.

With Cover the scouting is good, the talents are good, Yagoo's intentions are good - but that's probably about the best you can say about them. Some of the managers seem pretty wise like Haachama's (letting her do fun creative stuff but intervening when absolutely necessary like blocking the lubed ringfit stream), but many don't.

>>1131467
Managers are shit until you try predicting any of the stuff they have to deal with. Like just try and figure out if Nene going full degenerate will work out or cause massive damage.
Haachamas manager giving up is smart, for now, but you'd have called Matsuris manager clever this time last year and then Cover spent the rest of the year trying to salvage her reputation.

>>1127622
>9/11
>implying either of us are Americans
The world doesn't revolve around you, I didn't care back then and I don't care now.

>>1132063
America invented anime.

>>1130966
>blocking Mori from doing stupid shit with ecelebs,
I don't consider that good.

>>1132063
I was referring to the lesser airport restrictions and less crazed political shit in general. if you don't remember what just walking into an airport and getting on a plane with basically no security was like then I'm sorry

>>1120067
Maybe her name is jenny or something

>>1128361
if anything they should do that more

>>1123011
Good point. EN either can't or won't play the sukkomi role. Kiara is also a boke so their dynamic would be off. Sometimes I wish Ame would just go along with the joke. Instead she'll stop the comedic momentum dead and change subjects.

>>1132127
I don't think I've even been to an airport in my entire life.

>>1132265
the boke/tsukkomi style of comedy just doesn't work as well in english. same reason why dubbed comedy anime has so much localization and why jokes are often completely rewritten.

>>1132265
ollie:"I PEED LIKE A CHARGE RIFLE"
ame: "uh that's interesting"

>>1132305
consider yourself lucky then

>>1132322
ironically Ame is the autistic one in this exchange, this is why the first half was off, Ollie wanted to create any interaction and Ame just shrugged them off.

>>1124615
That's a song but I'm referring to streams, specifically one EN with on or more JP.
>>1124858
I know and that's why I'd like to see her collab with an EN not Kiara. Luna could carry the stream and passive aggressively shit on them in Japanese.

>>1132113
It is good. I'm not watching vtubers to have them collab with Critikal, xQc, and Nuxtaku like every other clout chasing youtuber.

>>1132316
It actually works very well. Larry David's show specializing in the boke/tsukkomi setups. Has nothing to do with localizations.
>>1132322
Ame had so many options there and she took the worst one. She could've shown disgust like Towa would do, one-upped her story like Haachama might do, or be turned on like Marine.

>>1132556
>It actually works very well
sure, maybe with scripted jokes with a practiced delivery, but not for impromptu comedy or for the inexperienced comedian.

I am so fucking glad that my oshi isn't playing fucking chess; that said shogi arc when?

>>1132322
That's a textbook straight man reply. But I'm sure it would've been hilarious if she explained for 5 minutes why ollie talking about piss was actually weird.

>>1132322

>>1121097
Petition Hololive for an EN Gamers generation.

>>1122023
>Implying the lag has ever stoped the jpgirls streams

>>1121913
I'm not familiar with minecraft server specifics, can they like, add a portal that'll teleport you from one server to the other?