/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

Uops, real previous: >>11387028

Well, we have a Pekers stream today, so that's probably gonna be number 1 on the list barring some unfortunate incident hamstringing her, since I don't think there are any big events on Niji today? Guess it depends on what she has planned though.

>>11403422
I can see Gura 27,162 taking the day

>>11403495
Pekora hasn't played Minecraft since last week and she does one Minecraft stream atleast every week. So I can see her doing Minecraft and taking the day. She still hasn't opened her pack of cards as well.

>>11403495
The first guerrilla stream potentially being the daily top 1 this month?

>>11403546
Well, she has a "配信予定" for the same slot Botan is visiting the EN server and one hour prior a Nene-Kiara EN server visit

>>11403601
Yeah let's see what happens. If she does card gacha she will win without a doubt.

>>11403633
Card Gacha wins, same with another MC stream since she'll get buffed by having Botan on at the same time.
Unless she subjects everyone to another round of blinding coloration I doubt she fails to beat 28k today.

>>11403633
>>11403666
Maybe she'll continue with Yakuza, she didn't finish it yet, did she?

>>11403601
Wow moona, she really should be rebranded as Vsinger

>>11404007
You mean judge eyes? Its a weekend game anon.

>>11404042
She's not dumb, she knows what puts rice and fish on her table
>Minecraft (which she's in a self imposed ID exile right now)
>MoonUtau

Without those two she's a high 3 digits low 1k streamer

>>11404042
She and Cali. Irys unironically should be a streamer.

>>11404094
Moona, like Reine, is set for life lol

Holy shit its another sponsored VOD again for pekkers huh. How much money is she even getting

>>11404164
>>11404204
WTF is even this? Like, a clip show, but sponsored?

>>11404137
>Moona, like Reine, is set for life lol
Yeah, but in Moona's case, that's just for ID standards. I'm sure she has higher aspirations
>Reine tho...

>>11404204
>まさかのスクエニ本社さんで遊ばせていただきましたぺこ!!
Wait, what? Cover surely is going full blown with their full court press with Square Enix

>>11404252
Its basically like this. She did one roughly 2 weeks ago

>>11404353
Other way around, Squeenix invited both Pekora and Noel over to the Squeenix studios to try out the new games, they're the ones going all in on trying to attract hololive.

>>11404204
Guess that playing and getting amazing numbers for FFX and solid dragon quest numbers paid off for Peckers.

>>11404204
>>11404388
>>11404652

Is it just me or are more companies starting to turn to Hololive for endorsements? I don't think they had this many last year or am I just misremembering?

>>11404690
You are not wrong, the sponsorship increased a lot after someone left Hololive actually.

>>11404690
I mean, isn't KanaTowa singing the theme song for one of their newest game?

>>11404042
I would vote her to replace El Goblina iRys

>>11404690
Only the one they have contract e.g Capcom, SEGA, Square Enix. Bamco is neutral and go both companies. Nijisanji is Konami go to.

>>11404690
>I don't think they had this many last year
kek, one year ago plus a few months Capcom (and Nintendo) was contacting Cover alright
>HEY TANIGO! Fucking cute Wolf girl you've got there
>I just sent two strikes her way, a third will follow unless you come to the table to kiss the ring and pay your respects
>gg ez ftp btw

>>11404721
Moona needs to be EN first. She will never escape the ID label

>>11404712
>after someone left Hololive actually
Huh? You surely mean
>after Curry Mesh
That was the pivotal moment

>>11404721
If only she wasn't terrible with both English and Japanese...

>>11404690
There were two points this year where sponsorships dramatically rose.
Around March/April and right after Coco left.

>>11404690
Yahoo said it himself, after the curry meshi promotion, Hololive went from having to go to companies to sell their ability to sell, to having companies come to THEM. That is a massive change, as it means Cover gets to dictate terms and choose the best deals instead of trying to scrounge for scraps. The fact that many of their sponsorships have been roaring successes (red bull complete sellout in an instant) just keeps the ball rolling.
Many companies, having been caught on the back foot, then had to scramble to consult their marketing teams to figure out if THEY could get in on some of that action, and since the corporate world moves pretty slow with its layers of red tape and meetings and etc, it isn't until Mid 2021 onwards that all these deals start to bear fruit.

>>11404770
Nissin already with them since last year though but yeah Curry Meshi might be the biggest sponsorship before Coco left.
Come to think of it, where is the Sanrio collab?

>>11404840
When Yagoo said that? I actually curious

>>11404905
cancelled along with the evangelion collab

>>11404935
NTA but it was an interview he did in January.
https://signal.diamond.jp/articles/-/527

>>11404936
RIP.
The evangelion collab was probably just watchalongs, but the Sanrio collab could've been merch.

Heh. No wonder a lot of Holos were voicing out how busy they were. It also seems that myth is starting to get in on that action. Its a good thing that IRyS and Council are here so they can somewhat pick up the slack if ever Cover goes hard on using Gura and the others for promotions.

Pekora Minecraft incoming, will it be today's top i wonder?

>>11404987
I recall Kiara mentioned earlier this year that they have a list of game sponsorships they can pick and choose from. I wonder if this is still the case.

>>11403422
>>11403495
>>11403546
>>11403601
Pack it up boys, pekora playing Minecraft today

>>11404936
Why was the Sanrio one cancelled? Covid?

>>11405055
Yep, call 'er done and stick a fork in it.

>>11404987
uhhh IRyS is also pretty busy recently + treating her fucked up teeth but still find time to stream

>>11405018
so they can pick like twitch, but managed by cover? huh,any timestamp?

>>11405055
Can Peko Minecraft break 30k tonight i wonder? Botan will do minecraft EN visit and in an hour Kiara/Nene miencraft will have a collab.
If the 4 of them actually meet then 40k for peko is possible but if not then 30k it is.

>>11405163
It's almost always gonna get 30k especially since she has a project on EN now. Kuzuha doesn't seem to have anything unless he's also playing in Hal's custom today.

https://youtu.be/hBmpMMkXz6Y
The fastest vtuber related video reaching 8M views, gonna be the fastest to 10M in a few days.

>>11405362
I will wait the day some bored animator doing the full 18+ animation using Gura

Im looking at the mario kart stream from hololive and they are pulling good numbers i wonder why holoEN don't play this game.

>>11405480
>mario kart
Kiara plays it pretty regularly

>>11405516
Exactly 1 out of 11 EN is playing this game. Kiara's last mario kart was 13 days ago already. I've seen fauna and bae play this on their first week i think and after that they haven't touch the game.

Man, I really wish some big sponsorship deal would reach HoloEN. All they have right now is some subpar Taco Bell menu and some unknown mobile games. Xbox should do something about it.

>>11405630
>fauna and bae play this on their first week
iirc fauna got hacked (?) during it, making all item became bullet bill, or is it bug?

>>11405685
>Xbox
they gave up on it

I wonder what she'd be doing without APEX.

>>11405767
>I wonder what she'd be doing without APEX.
Based on her difference in VOD views between her 1 hour APEX stream and her 9 hours APEX stream, may I assume
>she could be doing better?

She clearly has a 200k VOD audience that doesn't grow proportionally to the time she puts in the game.
Huge maybe, but maybe she could really branch out to something much bigger if she had anything else in her portfolio to attract a more diverse audience

>>11405767
Based on what she said, Overwatch.

Funny thing is that what Pekora is doing right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZCS6WBanuI
(Premiere of a highlights upload of a sponsored gameplay, in front of 8k people)
is exactly what Kizuna AI should be doing ever since the meta changed from "upload" to "live streaming"

This is pretty much the natural evolution of her style:
>pre arranged montage of highlights and funny moments
but in the premiere / live era.

The more I think about Ame "burning out" the more I think how silly these "try hard and die trying" girls are.

Here is Subaru about to beat 20k CCV by having some fun with Subatomo and ticking the "streamed today" box at the same time.
It needs zero preparation, zero foresight, just hop on Mario kart and run some laps.
Why can't Ame (and some other girls) just do that? Not every stream needs to be some masterpiece of preparation and "talent", their audience, more than anything else, just want to see them having fun

>>11406059
Yes you are right thats why i dont like"creative" vtuber. They just burnout so fast.

>>11406059
EU fans are unloyal wankers.

>>11406059
People have forgotten that consistency is key, kino helps but it can't be everything.

>>11406059
Tummy hort

>>11406059
>>11406084
Their view of "being creative" is shallow and narrow.

>>11406059
Well, that's why if you're running an agency, you kinda want to have both type

>>11406095
>EU

this might take teh day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVIcBuqjFLU
>subaru+uimama

wait why are we having actual good discussion during SEA hours? how is this possible?

>>11405630
Gura really like it but dont play on stream because...?

>>11404936
where did they say the sanrio collab was cancelled? i know they had an official statement on the eva one but i didnt see any on sanrio

>>11405685
>Xbox
Botan had their sponsorship

>>11406059
Because Ame doing that doesn't bring even 10k. The problem with "creative" streamers is that people expect too much from them, if they are streaming normally they don't drag much attention because people tends to think they are underperforming, Haachama has the same case with Ame, to add something more about the burnout, people thinking they are underperforming eventually will reach the talent, is that time when they start to think that they need to do better streams

>>11406182
I don't understand it either i dont get why she's not playing this game on stream.

>>11406167
It will be up against peko Minecraft for the win though. This might be a close one I will say.

>>11406059
>>11406097
>consistency
=hardwork

seems like you dont not much about Subaru

>>11406212
>Haachama has the same case with Ame
Nah, Haachama has a different problem: after being "exiled" for three years, living in a basement and being bullied in Australia by colleagues and hosts, she just finally managed to get some social life outside of streaming.

It's more a "coming of age" story, and she's currently weighting if being a regular human being is worth more than being Haachama.
Haachama has no qualms about doing "run of the mill" streams, whenever she needs she just hop on, do a Karaoke, some cooking, some Clubhouse 51 and hop off.

>>11406197
Think that anon is just assuming since there has been no news on it for close to half a year.

>>11406211
yeah she even said something like
>i tired to play solo online
btw she came to Kiara's MK last stream and played with her few times

* opening numbers for the slot *
Iofi, as always, showing an incredible ability to find the WORST slots to stream the debuffiest games

>>11406182
>>11406211
I guarantee it's a procrastination issue with her. She said in the last stream that in order to play Metroid she would need 3-5 days from the time she submitted a request for it. She always finishes her schedules at the last moment and probably feels it's too late to bother with.

>>11406197
Or you can submit that question to subaru for the ASK YAGOO stream!!

>>11406059
It's hard work to be consistent.
Discipline isn't easy, and all the best performers that last have it. If you're not disciplined it's easy to fall into the trap of constant rescheduling, projects tossed to the side, broken promises...
More than anything, training oneself to be disciplined would offer the most benefits to each and every talent, but it is Hard work, and not everyone is willing.

>>11406255
Sir, we talk about numbers here, I was talking entirely about numbers, and is a fact that chammers has a buff when she does some schizo stream or creative thing
If you are talking about feelings you are right, to be honest I can deal with a chama graduation if she feels better like this, but something will feel empty forever if she chooses that path

>>11405685
Idk man.. the market on the EN side is pretty limited unlike JP

>>11406324
>hehehehehe
kek

>>11406374
I wouldn't say limited, I would say locked, even with Gura the EN market didn't reach the status that regular streamers market has, is still a niche

I've been on a game bender for abit, any interesting developments in the past three days or so?

>>11405685
Gura (or HoloEN) is a midget compare to monster streamers like xqc, shroud, summit1g, pokimane, etc.

>>11404271
>>Reine tho...
yeah, exactly why she only does whatever she wants all the time

>>11406059
The topdogs of streaming arent the creative ones. The ones that are able to connect and entertain their audience while maintaning their energy/personality with simple interaction are the ones who'll reign last long

>>11406477
>Pokimane monster streamer?

She's not even top 5 female streamer what are you on?

>>11405685
Xbox doesn't need a HoloEN sponsorship, their name is already pretty famous in the west. What they really need is holoJP to raise awareness of them in Japan

>>11406374
>>11406421
>>11406477

Again, the reality check is that VTuber in the West is still considered "Weeb shits" in the grand scheme of things
And, as much as weeb culture as whole has become more mainstream over the years, it's still nowhere near the level of irl entertainers

>>11406357
She won’t graduate. She’s trying to find a balance between her real self and Haachama and I believe she’ll go the “Ayame route” of low intensity high performance streaming.

>>11406477
I mean, Gura can easily match/beat Pokimane for CCV, it's the hours streaming that she falls behind on. The rest though, yea, the top5-10 on Twitch stream huge hours, often 50+ hours a week last I checked for some of them.

>>11406515
he just threw names

>>11406167
Cancelled https://twitter.com/ui_shig/status/1448622549823221761

>ENTERS THE KING
He brought reinforcements too: Sultan and He-Ayame and whoever that other person is
>PREDICTIONS?
Could he pull an outside run and take the whole thing?

>>11406525
thats why they payed Botan to shill gamingpass

>>11406526
True. The current generation might open up with weeb/jp related stuff but the western boomer are pretty much hate that shit.

>>11406559
Ear troubles again?

>>11406477
holoEN has only been in the industry for a year, of course.
>Follower count
They are all far above
>CCV
Gura is within range of shroud, pokimane. summit1g is Ina level now.

>>11406577
Hmmm. Much better timeslot, collab, is it single or split POV though?

>>11406586
Unfortunately yes.

>>11406577
What game is this?

>>11406577
dont call this midget "THE KING"

>>11405991
Stream highlights is also a good strategy if you're a new chuuba without dedicated clippers. I wish less popular Holos and Holostars following this strat

>>11406581
>The current generation might open up with weeb/jp related stuff
Too late its kpop and kdrama shit now.

>>11406601
Split

The truth of the matter is that a lot of Western marketing teams aren't going to take a risk on weebshit especially weebshit with loli designs and several self-described lolicons.

>>11406559
uimama is a whore

>>11406515
Pokimane is still the face of female streamers. She gets a ton of sponsorships every month

>>11406650
Good thing no one in HoloEN is a lolicon.

>>11406679
>face
ppl dont look at their faces, anon

>>11406592
>Shroud

34k average CCV that seems not within range for gura.

>>11406650
Props to taco bell for using their eyes, common sense and not rrats

>>11406691
>loves them short

>>11406706
doesn't matter, when we think of female streamers we think of Pokimane first
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20210512005015/en/HyperX-Renews-Sponsorship-with-Top-Female-Content-Creator-Pokimane-as-Brand-Ambassador

>>11406691
They were happy to show a video at the biggest anime convention in the West that included one of their infamously lolicon talents calling an EN a loli. While based, that's a pretty huge risk in the West.

>>11406713
>within
>upper and lower limit respectively
Reachable, not determined. Pokimane is below her.

>>11406746
Anon, petie girls exists ...

>>11406767
That's called Cover being incompetent and not doing their research, it could have backfired very easily if not for their undeserved luck

>>11406839
>undeserved luck
kek, since when luck is deserved?

>>11406839
Honestly filtering the people that would try to cancel their employees over that kind of thing is probably safer in the long-term.

>>11406937
When his preferred corporation benefit.

>>11406962
lol, this.

>>11406937
Luck is always on her side, and it’s well deserved.

About 30k for first and and second “viewer verification” stall.
35k tops?

>>11406996
Sounds like the safe bet.

>>11406996
>35k tops?
no unless, someone comes to interact with her

Toya stream died, liz might have a chance

>>11406996
31k

>>11406577
Hope he wins for a 4 days straight nijiwin.

>>11406996
32k peak but if Nene & Kiara say hello to her then it might reach 35k+

>>11404271
dont underestimate the quality of life of rich people in non (African/War-Torn) 3rd world country...
Person who earns a median American salary can live like kings and have a 24-hours "slave" for $100-200 a month...They won't have supercars etc but they would have huge mansions...
Source: Me, a guy who earns 40$K in 3rd-world country and has 6 bedroom self-owned home and 2 "slaves" to cook, clean and work.

>>11407083
>Hope he wins for a 4 days straight nijiwin.
Not looking too good right now, but not impossible

>>11407155
Touya's stream died and he is not restarting it. Kuzuha will take the win I think.

>>11407083
4 days straight nijiwin?? What do you mean?
Only 2 days of Oct had niji take #1.

>>11407130
I’m familiar, it’s more an “aspirations” thing.
It’s hard being king in ID if you have coworkers doing at least as well, but in JP.

>>11407173
3d debut tomorrow and blazing sail tournament on sat.

>>11407168
I don’t know, he’s stalling very hard on 25k, with some drops to 23k. Maybe he-ayame audience isn’t moving to his channel

>>11407201
whose 3D?

>"Hey bro, is 25k enough?"
>"Yeah sure, you can start your stream again now."
>Aight
>Touya opening stream again
ILLEGAL

>>11407214
Let's see if touya does not restart his stream then he has a chance else I don't think so.

>>11407239
More like
>hey tomodati, can you spare 10k viewers for me to beat the rabbit?
>no probs, let me just kill my stream for a minute or two
(nobody moves because he-Ayame is too strong)
>nandemonai, thanks for trying

>>11407291
he already did. it's not showing in nijimado but it's in ikioi

Imagine there's an EN-RU vtuber for EN 3 that plays Dota

>>11407372
Yeah I was confused as well. Just checked his channel.

>>11407372
>>11407387
Mado only updates on the top of the hour, with the hourly peak no?

Fauna played Dota but she doesn't want to stream it.

If Pekora was on twitch right now, she'd be in the top 5 ccv and top 1 for the japanese tag. She's also currently #1 on Japan live. Super strong.

>>11407378
They will either have to play very well, or Tyler1

>>11407378
Bro that's TI ffs. Check normal streamer numbers

>>11407440
she knows the fanbase

>>11407423
It shows current too

>>11407440
>smart girl
>person who played Dota 2

>>11407440
I wish she'd at least cast some games in TI, it's guaranteed numbers on stream

>>11407225
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-o-E6I3IC2q8sAoAuM6Umg

CCV seems to be around 2.5k~ and she's had about 70k in SCs over 2 years.

>>11407444
Twitch and YouTube have different audiences, she wouldn't be able to get 35k

>>11407533
Yeah and a guaranteed chat full of fangay this fangay that.

>>11407440
Pretty sure she could make it a flavor stream honestly. Valve allows permissions for everyone to stream their games.

>>11407474
I'm saying there's a market for EN-RU Dota vtubers. There's 240k watching on EN side and 200k on RU. Could be a chance to get new viewers from another game genres instead of Botan's FPSfags.

Nijifags, don't ever associate this midget to Ayame

* numbers in the end of the slot *
I-Iofi…

>>11407533
Cancerous chat like any other big esports event

>>11407552
>>11407598
Well no shit, but we're talking strictly numbers.

>>11407584
Does Iofi do any gacha, or just gameplay?

If it's the latter, then I can understand
She's not shork

>>11407584
Eh, what can you do, she chooses the time slot that's always congested so she'll never get tourists.

>>11407567
>11k watching a frozen screen.
Pretty good.

>>11407612
Yeah, and she won't do it because of that. So any talk of numbers is meaningless

>>11407584
not suprised, ID is just on their own at this point

hmmm that little incident on botan's last stream doesn't seem to affect her CCV and likes/dislikes ratio, i guess botan's viewers are a bit more mature and not sperging idolfags?

>>11407612
>>11407633

NTA, but number in a vacuum won't help much

Does the large number now worth it? If it means getting the attention of the Dota crowd, and risk sabotaging future number?

>>11407656
???
What happened last Botan stream?

>>11407611
Twapper...

>>11407656
stop relying on /vt/

>>11407638
Any speculation on what ID3 is gonna bring? Will it help energize interest like Council did or will it cannibalize the numbers further?

>>11407656
Botan never market herself as someone for idolfag to follow, no?

>>11407694

NTA, but last Far Cry 6 stream some schizo sent an aka to spreg about her joining the BF tournament with Towa, and her Korean friends (1 of them is male, cpt)

>>11407656
How many genuine idolfags is there anyway? People always talk about stepping around them to not cause outrage but Aqua seems to get more haters for not playing Apex.

>>11407656
It's not big deal honestly. Don't let dramafag schizos on /jp/ and /vt/ control your opinion.

>>11407656
same for Towel, schizos on suicide watch
>>11407694
some retarded shit, one angry superchatter (never seen before) complained about she playing battlefield with the cr guy, whos friends with her team (torreto and bora)

>>11407684
Of course, Fauna wouldn't get large numbers from playing dota. But if it helps getting new viewers into the hole, then it'll be worth it in the end. Just the mention of "Dota Vtuber" with CCV higher than some of Dota pros like SingSing or bulldog is enough of an attraction.

>>11407656
/jp/ dramafags blew things out of proportion as usual.

>>11407763
Dunno, wasn't there a story about pekora and pregnancy trending some time before?

>>11407720
It will bring in more bored EUs/Americans who aren't at work or school. The debuts will be big events but a big dropoff.
>>11407771
Most holofans don't care all that much, it's the super schizos, SEAnigs, and whale gachis who do. The main problem is normal fans don't bring in merch and SCs.

>>11407567
DELET! Kuzuha debuffed him!

Mori - end of a life
2M views
13 days

>>11407748
Oh pfffffffttttttttttt
One schizo sperging about something like that when it isn't one of the following doesn't matter, especially since Botan never marketed herself as unicorn bait nor GFE
Gen3
Kanata
Miko
Thats off the top of my head, but yea unless the Chubba has explicitly stated they won't collab with makes or panders hard as some girlfriend replacement, participating in an FPS tourney with male participants or partners means jack shit.

>>11407656
i won't be relieved by that if i were you, i'm still worried if people are gonna riot in the actual scrims or tournament after seeing botan actually interacting with the males, i hope not though.

>>11407779
/jp/ fags were hoping /vt/ would get upset and they just told them to fuck off.

>>11407855
I mean, you try to tell that to /jp/ and see how well that went

>>11407905
/jp/ + burger hours, that was a really terrible thread yesterday.

>>11407763
Plenty of genuine idol fans around, it's just that /vt/ has an absolutely retarded take on what idol culture is that is imported from reddit and think idols aren't allowed to speak to men ever.

why aren't anybody talking about selen?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_bQjDGRKl4

>>11407886
>>11407800
Who the fuck still used /jp/? The niji thread is a corpse and last time I was in /hlg/ it was a shitshow with 150~ IPs. They were spamming the same old roommate pics to get to the image limit because someone was mad at either 35ps or nousagis or someshit.

I was /jp/sie from 2008-2015 and I can't even look at the place now.

>>11407656
turns out nobody gives a shit about schizos what a surprise

>>11407951
Because everyone have already talked

>>11407951
There are vtuber that is getting 30k+, 20k+ and 10k+ right now why would we talk about someone getting 3k+

>>11407972
Me. I only use /vt/ for /#/ and /oshi/.

>>11407951
bad numbers

>>11407905
I ain't wandering into that hive of schizoshit, they're worse than us, and that's saying something. Deluded is what they are, like I said, those sorts of standards really only apply to the unicorn pandering/ GFE chubbas. Like, if someone like Rushia collabed with a male male (Tamaki doesn't count), schizos may have a point. Botan? Pffftz get bent.

>>11407951
>midget.png

>>11407720
as far as i know, probably it will end up the same as any ID branch. the active and creative one will have more subscriber, but the average view probably around 2k. no matter how much talented the ID mems, they still get those "ID" debuff. but i still looking forward to it since every new ID gens always impressed me. its like, they always get a good scouting. its keep getting better and better. no matter how people dislike ollie, she still one of the most creative member in hololive

>>11407945
I wonder how many are just taking the piss. 90% of /vt/ doesn't care about about the shit with some Council members. Most of the unicorn faggotry feels like raids.
>>11407951
She's really the star of the entire branch. I wonder if she can reach 5k average CCV. The entire thing reminds me of the 2001 76ers, Allen Iverson just carried, like Selen.

>>11408061
>worse than us
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>11407851
Is this a high performance for her? In terms of numbers?

>>11408020
Because every numbers thread needs to talk about Holo recline% and Niji Incline % and about how NijiEN will surpass HoloEN as soon as the Holo bubble pops

>>11408061
>they're worse than us
DYRB?

>>11408126
Anyone who genuinely thinks idol culture revolves entirely around unicorns and start shitting on idols / falseflagging as unicorns are the retards, and at this point that's most of /vt/ including this thread.

>>11408141
Not sure about how fast Live Again and DEAD BEATS were, only slower than RIP, OWTH .

>>11408126
>I wonder how many are just taking the piss.
With Botan? 99%
With Council? A lot of people care, but the people still actively posting about it are just there for (You)s.

>>11408167
....I mean....
Fuck I dunno, I guess we can be worse, but I probably don't see the worst of it because I just avoid the hlgg thread and the obvious brain-dead baits.

>>11407972
/jp/ thread mainly used by schizos who refuse to move over .
/jp/ Niji thread is a clique that has their own personal meido

>>11408228
+Roki if including cover song, KING and Getcha are not on her channel.

>>11407992
Also Botan dunk on the guy h a r d

>>11408250
Given that the "obvious brain-dead baits" make up half of the threads on this fast-moving board that should tell you this place has a huge schizo problem.

Pretty good time for Holo numbers right now as always. What's the prediction for the current Nene-Kiara collab?

>>11408338
It only takes one schizo posting on cooldown to shit up the entire board.
Kiara antis proved this.

>>11408348
pretty low given that both pekora and botan are on En streaming too.
5k for kaira 8k for nene as time goes.

>>11408121
I'm not really agree with you on the creative front

But one thing about Ollie is her outgoing and fearless with collaboration. Being ID, funny enough, is a buff for her, since no one will complain about ID collab with potential "Yab" people, with may be some complain from /here/

Like, just watch her birthday stream

The guess list looks like something for Smash

>>11408348
So many people like making predictions I wonder how a fake /#/ casino would fare. Like having lines, over/unders, futures etc.

>>11407567
>Solo streams : 20k
>Collabs :10k
What went wrong to the niji true king?

>nenechi solo micra 7~13k
>en tour buff not even 10k
kiara debuff field really strong tonight

>>11408210
The thing is, much like everything else ever, is the loud one that gets the spotlight

Like, when it comes to idol culture, most people will spend hours tell you about stalker, death threats, dox and sexual harassments

>>11408410
>The guess list looks like something for Smash
I'm surprised Ironmouse appeared there.

>>11408126
Selen's alright but comparing her to Iverson is a fucking insult to AI. At best, she's Jerry stackhouse with the pistons. Borderline all star having to carry a bunch of dead weights.

Millie could already be superchatted now and she's got $39 to her name right now. There's also a stream scheduled in a few hours titled "Celebration" with takoyaki party. So, this will probably be her monetization stream.

>>11408453
No they are overlapping with pekora and botan. Dont be delusional with the numbers

>>11408503
after reimu i dont think any record will be broken.

>>11408140
Really outing yourself as one who hasn't been to /hlg/ enough. The worst this thread can get is maybe 100 posts worth of bait/tribalfagging in a bad day, /hlg/ can go 500 or even more posts of doxxing, shitposting, baiting, tribalfagging, shartposting, gore/porn spam at random times.

>>11408453
If only Bae is the tour guide...
Japs seem like cute Bae much more than Kiara

>>11408477
They collab before on Mouse's channel, if my memory serves me right (She did a talk show, not unlike Holotalk desu)

Well, this pirate game that nijis are playing is shit, its like discount blackwake with fortnite childish graphics. No wonder they have a low-ish number.

>>11408464
>muh reflection in the eye

>>11408536
There’s also a stars schizo who spams cp on a weekly basis as well. Not sure if he stopped.

>>11408576
i belive gura played it before. i wonder why some MS games are hard to get permissions to.
psychonauts, halo for example.

>>11408250
I don't get how hlgg is so infamous nowadays, that thread is the reason we got /vt/ in the first place and all the oldfags are there, or is it just all the newfags that don't know about the original board culture gets bullied out of that thread and instead coping by evacuating to their own split threads or makes shitty bait threads?

>>11408504
But Kiara's ccv for MC is still concerning, she seems like the only member in EN and JP doesn't have the MC merge buff

>>11408610
is it the same one that used to spam gay porn when stars got mentioned? dude really upgrading

>>11408536
>this thread
is a single numbers thread with less than a hundred active IPs, I'm laughing at the idea that /vt/ isn't far, far worse.

>>11408576
>It doesn't count because the game my king is playing is not a buff game
Fuck off
Gura and Pekora play debuff games all the time

>>11408166
Rent free in Holobronies heads baby. Stay seething faggots

>>11408672
Hi Ange

>>11407972
nah /hlg/ is for discussing JP streams.
/hlgg/ is so Myth centric

>>11408250
Hlgg is very tame compare to the rest of the board. It used to be very bad but most of the schizos are on the split thread now since they get bullied.

>>11408701
watch out, Selen might pass her soon with just a bit of fluctuation

>>11408672
what happened to he-ayame

>>11408464
The same people who conveniently ignore the fact that stalkers, harassments and death threats happen to Western celebrities and online personalities too because it doesn't fit the narrative of "teh crazy nip idolfags". Doesn't make them any less retarded, and doesn't mean it's not the majority opinion on /vt/ and on reddit.

>>11408273
Covers and originals should not be directly compared. Covers have an absolutely massive advantage

>>11408654
Well the thing with /vt/ is there's at least meidos that pop up from time to time, in /jp/ the meidos can take a long time to take action or not even be up by the time the thread already archived. You should have really seen the /hlg/ threads when some guy managed to wheelbarrow it at moments where the meidos were asleep.

>>11408694
Not my king, and I'm only stating that this is a such shit game for tournaments.

>>11408615
Did she get a good number for it at least?

>>11408615
Don't know about psychonauts but in the case of Halo, the music is the issue.

>>11408646
>Literally collab with every JP already
>Talks like japanese
I wonder why japs don't see her as a foreigner...

>>11408912
it was before dec so yes.

>>11408410
>I'm not really agree with you on the creative front
i dont know whats your terms in creative, but if thats your opinion i respect it.
but if you look back at her debut, Olivia story, girls talk, etc. for me thats creative. she always do something new and have confident to do it(less the yubigate rrat and e-celebs)

>>11408615
I'm pretty sure they already have permission to play the Halo games, but it's complicated by Halo music often getting copyright claimed.

>>11408646
Overlap is an issue but the bigger issue is Kiara is speaking JP, which filters a big chunk of her audience

>>11408646
>and JP doesn't have the MC merge buff
did you miss this weeks streams?

Pretty sure Holo needs to top the charts for 1-3 more days and they've claimed the majority of October for winners of the day.

>>11409015
I don't know why they are so afraid of claims lol. They're pretty harmless besides not getting any ads money from the streams

>>11408795
A watchalong stream.

>>11409027
Did you even finish reading my whole sentence?

>>11409027
Anon your comprehension reps.

>>11409064
Cover won't do anything without explicit written permission ever since the holo-caust.

>>11408646
nigga is kiara, she competes in JP primetime and is having split pvo collabs.

>>11409088
You missed a 'that' in your sentence, and that other Anon must've skimmed the sentence. Silly mistake. Kiara yea....she doesn't seem to be benefiting as much from the merger as other Holomem...
Perhaps it's because of her participation in Usaken, she's already viewed as 'old news"? I don't want to timeloop the voice issue either, but it's probably something that filters people that would otherwise be watching....

>>11409064
Why even consider risking it after the holocaust?

>>11409162
Doesn’t help there are schizos on the JP side that are waiting for any reason to report Cover to publishers or just flat out make up their own shit (Gen 5 janitor and Miko/Marine BL doujin clips for example).

>>11408141
It depends, in number terms is doing just fine, but in the critic is where all people are praising her a lot more than other songs she did

>>11408646
I mean, it's Kiara. There's also a lot of MC overlap right now, and i would expect to start seeing lower numbers for these EN visit MC streams as the novelty of it fades away.

>>11409025
>speaking jp
Bae didn't seem to get affected by this debuff on her en tour collab with Miko

>>11409297
bae and miko didnt have an overlap

>>11409201
Well Kiara's also already interacted with a lot of JPs already so perhaps the novelty isn't there as much compared to the Council members who are new, Gura and Ame who barely can talk, Ina and Mori can talk and have had JP collabs but not really to the extent Kiara has gone for.

>>11409297
Because its miko. Just like how kiara get 15k on MC collab with peko.

>>11409223
>Gen 5 janitor and Miko/Marine BL doujin clips for example
none of that has anything to do with music licensing which is a deal between youtube and the major music labels

>>11409297
what about her regular streams

>>11409297
Bae is a new member who hasn’t interacted much with the JP side.
Kiara has collabed with most members by now and has been to the JP server many times.

>>11409297
Nene and bae have a Minecraft collab on 16th . Let's see how that performs.

>>11408646
Eh, she's giving shitty tour anyway
didn't know what is what during watame tour, didn't let flare finish on commenting EN building or attraction, speed through everything then let's go phoenix town

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIbY4zejR6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIbY4zejR6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIbY4zejR6A

Upcoming drunk Matsuri stream

>>11409483
Uh have these been doing any significant numbers or do you just wanna compare if it manages to get her higher numbers than usual?

>>11409483
>900 waiting room
NGMI

>>11409483
another menhera breakdown inc

>>11409297
Bae is cute and japs love cute things

>>11409535
The latter desu

* last night NijiEN performance *
E-Elira...

>>11409483
>1,339 watching now
Just retire already Festival please jesus christ this is sad

Well Kronii's now 100k gap between Mumei, what happened to that guy who said Mumei would pass Kronii eventually? The gap has been gradually widening rather than shrinking.

>>11409701
Selen opened up strong today tho. She's making the whole branch look bad

>>11409711
Literally around Ollie's number, of all people

>>11409701
Selen was a viewership black hole for NijiEN yesterday.
Sucks for Wave 3 but it’s not surprising.

>>11409740
*her collabs

>>11409701
Why did Nina privated her stream? What was even it anyway?

>>11408544
What have you been drinking? Bae is the one least liked by jps out of council

>>11409701
Elira please just collab with Toko, Chigusa, and Suisei.

>>11409740
She playing with kuzoha boy toy she should be higher so that kinda sad to only see 3k,

>>11409780
Jojo watchalong

>>11409792
Suisei? That seems unlikely unless there's a roommate connection I'm unaware of?

>>11409701
elira should kick selene out of her euro night time
burgers hours arent doing her ayn favor.

>>11409819
Ensta.

>>11409792
No way, NijuEN stay away from Suisei. Only toko get to enjoy her

>>11409787
>least liked
You're the one drinking
Sana the black is the least liked by japs

>>11409987
Doubt Suisei would really give her the time of day unless Toko really insisted.

Pekora getting a buff after Botan finished. Is anyone beating her 34K today?

>>11409740
Selen is NijiEn kuzuha. Screen cap this

>>11410026
>Sana the black

>>11409787
>Bae is the one least liked by jps out of council
For fuck sake anon, Bae is getting 5k min streaming dead in the middle of JP primetime

>>11410121
Unless a super-mega guerilla stream happens, no.

>>11410143
Also, the only one out of council doing jp only streams

>>11408307
deets anon, I wanna see this in action.

>>11409987
Only he gets to enjoy both toko and sui

>>11410138
I mean, whenever we get screenshots of translated text from 5ch when talking of Flare, they sometimes call her "Black Flare" or something.

>>11409483
Views asides, her sc dropped a lot last month, and she had the new costume buff stream, I think people are actually getting tired of her shit.

>>11410202
Someone translated it on YT already

>>11410283
her outfit overlapped with tsunomaki janken 3d

>>11410303
People can still send sc after the stream is over.

>>11410286
That makes it easy

>>11410202
>deets anon, I wanna see this in action.
>>11410286
>Someone translated it on YT already
Stream and timestamp plz. No need for clip, send me the original

I guess Pekora's Minecraft with 35.5k will be today's top.
Any Holos event tomorrow that can be used to fight Niji 3D Debut?

>>11410390
she told them to go to watames stream after her outfit was done, she even said no SC reading.

>>11410433
>Any Holos event tomorrow that can be used to fight Niji 3D Debut?
You never know. Even a run of the mill Subaru stream could end up being
>Oozora Police
and take the day

Didnt notice Nina was streaming too at this time
>900
not that it matters a lot

>>11410425
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HdYtFDD4Hc
I'm giving you the clip because the timestamp is not in the comments and I didn't have time to find the specific timestamp yet.

>>11410451
>Oozora Police
Well probably this one then, haven't every stream of this almost or did crack the 100k number?

>KIARA BTFO!
WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW!

>>11410440
No sc reading for that day.

>>11410525
None over 100k AFAIK. I am not saying it will be, only that you can't rule out any Holo from getting the stream of the day because even a "non special event" stream could end up being special

>>11410525
The anon is just giving an example, there doesn't seem to be any Shuba stream tomorrow.
They do have the ShubaChocoLuna song though so that might do decently well.

>Cleared 35k
APOLOGIZE!

>>11410607
I refuse! Because I figured she'd get 33-35k range.

>>11410534
Kiara and Nene overlapped with Pekora MC(peak 35k) and Botan MC(peak 14k).
And don't say these 3 overlapped with Toya and Kuzuha because Towa and Miko also overlapped them holding 10k & 16k respectively.

>>11410507
Come on...guys...
She has reached the age that she can't bleed anymore...

>>11410607
Why should I ever doubt Peko?

>>11410507
It all started because of this guy. This is the guy who sent the sc, genuine unhinged individual. Or just a false flagging anti. One of his last retweets is a towa clip of her past cr cup games. Doesnt even seem to be that much of a fan of Botan. And to cap it off , he has a follow from Sora.
https://twitter.com/smokinnnns

Sumire return stream only 8k peak? VSPO is reclining hard

>>11410743
T u T

WHO WOULD WIN THIS BATTLE FOR PEKORA LOVE THROUGH NUMBERS?

>The Pride of Australia, the Champion of the Visigoths, one of the most recognized members of the most recognized vtuber group in the West armed with the hottest game in town, the buffiest of buffs, the holiest of holy, a Minecraft tour accompanied by the vtuber featuring this week's Weekly Playboy's List of Next Gen Beautiful Women?
>one humble songstress pouring her heart in some emotional tunes to a mostly third world audience?

THE ANSWER WILL ANGER; CONFUSE, DISTRACT, SCRAMBLE YOUR EGGS AND UNBRAID PEKORA'S HAIR!

>>11410143
She only gets any decent numbers playing minecraft and that only because people think others will show up.

>>11410751
ISREAL

>>11410835
HATERS AND LOSERS BTFO!

>>11410890
>Collab with the second biggest en and not even 15k.
Embarrassing

>>11411058
>not even 15k
Uhhh....

>>11411058

>>11411058
Anon, your reading rep ...

>11411058
In your haste, you appear to have gone blind.

>>11411058
Embarrassing indeed

>>11411058
You need to get your eyes checked anon…

>>11411058
Much better numbers than Selen collabing with second biggest JP male member

>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - OCTOBER 2021

1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament
10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse51
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna
13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft

>>11410890
>Second biggest EN that only good at music and bad at streaming

>>11410499
>Didnt notice Nina was streaming too at this time
She wasn’t supposed to be, she moved the stream back like 7 hours.

>>11411058
anon.. u still alive?

a challenger appears

>>11411220
Sorry anon, people saw the >>11411058
>Collab with the second biggest en and not even 15k.

>>11411270
I missed his post, which one was he referring to?

>>11411252
>7.1k

That doesn't look like a challenger to me.

>>11411220
She overllaped with Gura, Mumei and Kronii playing MC for +50k viewers and Ame playing Dead Space with 3.5k viwers
Also, that stream was the 7th part

>>11411319

>>11411252
A challenger to what? Also comparing YT vs Twitch seems pointless unless we get some decent comparison stats

>>11411319
This: >>11410890

>>11411252
>Hololive have a server mc buff
>Vshojo having their own server for similar buff
This leechers

>>11411058
kek

>>11410890
Still does not change that her numbers are worse than all the other members except sana. And sana at least gets superchats. She has kiara tier views with ina tier supas. So please tell me how she is not a failure

>>11411220
>>11411336
Mori also overlapped with IRyS ASMR stream

>>11409792
What qualifications does Elira have? Bitch can't sing shit.

>>11411252
>We will do what ever HoloEN is doing

holoJP should practice minimizing Kiara's volume, ffs

>>11411609
>hololive invented minecraft

>>11411463
>So please tell me how she is not a failure
So far, in October, given her consistent scheduling and many streams, she's ahead of Sana and Fauna and close to Mumei in hours watched, a great feat considering the hours she put on JP primetime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu5heLukYzI

Kiara and Nene joined VC now

Can she get to 40k ...

>>11411705
>>11410811
It's fascinating watching everyone's numbers, including Pekora's, start to incline once they all start goofing around together, it's still inclining too

>>11411781
Well, it's only 3 of them in the server now

Then again, it's passed 12 AM in JP, so I'm not sure how much more they can get

Peko has been there for 3 hr already

>>11411781
As said before Holo minecraft is about the interactions and not about the progress being made.

>>11411693
I mean what were they waiting for building MC server until now?

>>11411202
I thought this should be counted at 1 AM JST? or the rule changes again

>>11411505
Isn't she the best singer in NijiEN?

>>11411883
>I thought this should be counted at 1 AM JST? or the rule changes again
There is no rule change but anon is correcly estimating that nobody will reach Pekora today.

It would take a massive feat of strength for a stream starting before midnight JST to beat that number

Rabbit over 37K. They should get to work on a minecraft tournament/hunger games arc ASAP. Easy numbers

>>11411919
That's probably Enna. Still need to wait for her karaoke but her debut singing was better than Elira's.

>>11411698
Sana and fauna barely streamed this month and bae streams longer hours than most in council

>>11411997
That's my point exactly. There are two way to succeed in this business, three actually

>be like Ayame, stream sparsely but get HUGE numbers
>be like Flare, Lamy or Watame: get midtier numbers but put ABSURD HOURS
and, of course, be like Pekora
>get HUGE numbers putting ABSURD HOURS
RatGirl is clearly succeeding at the hard work

Pekora interaction manage to give Nene/Kiara higher peak.

>>11411781
STOP THE COUNT!

>>11411883
Yes but sometimes that rank can be made early when there's no doubt that another stream will do better better

>>11411781
Given that we KNOW tab-outs don't count towards CCV, I suspect what's happening is that the multiple voices are causing people to pay more attention to stream and tab-in to see what's going on instead of just passively listening.
It explains why the numbers climb up so quickly once it happens, and it's not like this is the first time we've seen this sort of thing happen.

>>11412094
Would like to see you categorize all the members in success.

>>11412094
>Brrats star posting kfp hard work cope

So unarchived karaoke could potentially gives you twice the usual viewers

CCV
Niji 39.3k (22 streams)
Holo 72k (11 streams)

>>11412373
Niji needs to figure out their shit. There's no reason why they can't do unarchived english karaokes when Holo does them all the time and has been completely fine. It's free views. If they actually ever get hit then they can stop.

>>11412468
I mean, the reason they stopped is because Pomu got hit isn't it?

>>11412373
that's Moona only thou.
Pekora's karaoke, for example, wouldn't be a buff

>>11412656
Pekora get 28k+ on her karaoke that is better than her average ccv.

>>11412373
Moona unarchived happens to be 2000s pop and Disney, which is a huge pull for the Sea audience.
Setlist matters a lot.
Tbh I don't know any JP that does unarchived stuff so I can't compare there. Gura doesn't do archived. I guess you can try and use Kiara numbers but she is not really known as a singer, so comparing Moona and Kiara might not be the best.

>>11412656
Yeah that's why I said "potentially". And I think this is the only karaoke which goes back to back between unarchived and archived.
>>11412755
I only remember this from HoloJP

>>11412814
Probably too few examples to see if it doubles properly. English karaoke sounds like an event but this is also Suisei before her karaoke buff numbers.

>>11412814
Coco and Haachama had some but there defenetly were even more holos that used it

>>11412599
She didn't get a strike or DMCA takedown notice
What happened with her was a simple ContentID match, this is normal and happens with Hololive's members too
When the ContentID system detects a copyrighted content you get automatically a license in exchange for the monetization

>>11412945
Wait that's it? I only see the Pomu got hit once thingy around here but that is nothing, it is unarchived anyway so claiming the song means nothing.

https://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/research/articles/404583/

>>11413114
>Context/title
Ain't gonna click a sus link

>>11412814
Some retards always say : unarchived blah blah blah blah
Because fucking DMCA only hit english songs faggot

>>11412814
that one was a rebroadcast, it was the second one. That one was at 3pm JST, bad hours for her and for overseas too but the first one was at 3am JST and had like 15k or something like that.

>>11413168
NTA but here.
Seems to be some sort of popularity survey? Conducted from october 2 to october 9.
Pekomoon is 6 and Gatchman (I think that is right) main channel is 2.

>>11412243
>Would like to see you categorize all the members in success.

Here is an attempt, for October so far
>Blue is hours watched
>Red is hours streamed, normalized on Pekora hours watched

Anyone left of Hololive is above the company average (which doesn't include the stars) and anyone with "hours streamed" above hololive has more hours streamed than the average of the company.

Ina, somehow, is an overperformer, even not putting crazy hours.
Noel likewise, but it was on the back of special events.

Gura in October tho, showing what she COULD have been if she had even Subaru work ethics

>>11413567
Also
>that Ayame flex

When did VShojo had their own MC server?

OK, real talk here
>IS THIS THE LOWEST CCV FOR A HOLOLIVE STREAM THAT DIDN'T GET SUSAN'D

WTF IS IOFI THINKING?
>MAKE FUCKING IDOLMASTER
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH