/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

with botan goggles, this would have gone through 25k

>>11772126
He was supporting her long before she joined Hololive (together with many other small vtubers) unlike this thread who didn't know about her existence until INNK (or most likely until she actually joined Hololive)

can't believe everyone got mogged by nijimales fishing today

>>11773718
Too bad premieres don't count. Better luck next time, nijiniggers.

>>11773802
>proceeds to cry about this thread being a Holonumbers thread and why premieres should count because it's a form of content

are you sure you want to numberfag edited clips?

>>11773802
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3F2SPNlr4A
oh no

>>11773802
Oh look, a stream.
https://youtu.be/E3F2SPNlr4A

>200k ccv on koshien
>50k on manjisanji series premiere
>but
How come a supposedly top company get only 14k views and 600 likes? my god

>>11773948
dunno you have stats for suisei's radio?

>>11773939
>>11773940
Oh that's probably beating Suisei's 42k then.

>>11773939
>>11773940
Hey, gotta take some days for themselves in order to not let Niji look so bad at the end of the month.

>>11773973
and no i'm not talking about the tokomachi one

>>11773973
Oh no, now it's Suisei vs nijisanji channel

>>11773940
Its bgm like the umisea one

>>11774023

>>11774025
Naw it's a stream.
Already 40k so it's the Niji main channel's day.

How much will twitter seethe if Gura somehow manage to get 4M subs before Kizuna could get 3M?

>>11774110
Yes, on which channel?

>>11774110
nta but this channel is so fucking obscure to begin with. Give me a link.

>>11774138
why would twitter care about kizuna?

>>11774138
There wasn't an issue when she passed 3m, there's no difference now

>>11774142
On the same channel where the second part of >>11773948 is usually posted

Strong

>>11774197
Just link it ffs.

>>11774136
Yep, looks like it.
And this is why you wait until the end of the day to call anything.

Always

>>11774238
Yea...
Unfortunate for Suisei, but lmao at that anon who said it was over.

>>11774197
So not on Suisei or holo main channel, irrelevant then

>>11774238
Link me because live-ranking didn’t pick it up yet

Well i guess Niji gets today, such a shame

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3F2SPNlr4A

>>11774265
>>11774276
ILLEGAL VIEW FUNNELING

>>11774251
How come a supposedly top company get only 4k views ? my god

>>11774289
Still 3 times bigger than its main competition.

>>11774274
Well, other anons have posted it, but here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3F2SPNlr4A

>>11774289
Explain >>11773948
Dead subs? dead subs

>>11774308
lol

>>11774289
>It hurts itself in confusion!

>>11774314
Explain >>11773939 >>11773940

Guys there is still Risu outifit. I'm sure she'll not only beat Niji's 60k today but also defeat Coco's grad numbers.
Treerrat Supremacy!!!

>>11774335
Believe it!

>>11774335
I beleeb

>>11774333
4 man + main channel vs 1? weak

>>11773802
when even with ur cope they still mog then on a stream afterwards

nijimales are rofling and lmaoing at all of you

>>11774399

>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - OCTOBER 2021

1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament
10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse51
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna
13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft
15) Naraka (Nijisanji) - 53k - 3D Debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 33k - Blazing Sails Niji Tournament
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.4k - Judge Eyes
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.5k - Summer craft championship
19) Suisei (Hololive) - 83.5k - Outfit Reveal
20) Subaru (Hololive) - 26.4k - Minecraft

>FUTURE EVENTS/SPECULATIONS
22) Moona - Outfit Reveal

Hololive: 15/20
Nijisanji: 4/20
Just have to win 11 days in a row, Nijibros
WE MUST BELEEB!

>>11774285
>>11774311
Manjisanji still very strong.

>>11774427
>Corporate mandated unit
It's their UMISEA lmao

>>11774467
how new can you be rofl

>>11774382
>Four of the most popular male vtubers in the world doing announcement streams on the main channel.
It would've been embarrassing if they didn't mog everyone.

You may take the win today, but when myth comes visiting Japan and they'll do an island tour like those 4 faggots, you'll see the real numbers of the best vtuber group on top of having Marine and Aqua giving them a tour.

>>11774517
Since when Kaida is the most popular male?

>>11774462
This is actually the first legit large-scale project where nijisanji leveraging their male popularity. Variety all male unit with their own channel and regular show, all the stops.

>>11774517
four of the most popular would be kuzuha, kanae, hal and probably kuzuha's dad, not them

What is the number of Gen 3 big announcement?

>>11774577
I mean, it's 4 boys goofing around somewhere. 3 popular male chuubas + Kaida. Toya & Fuwa could carry the conversation, making it interesting.

>>11774558
He's not a weak/low tier one fer sure. Despite all the flame in his early days and sometimes still gets, he's the best of his trio. Helps his design is so good. I wouldn't mind having him as a guest character in Obey Me!.

>>11774550
>You may take the win today, but when myth comes visiting Japan and they'll do an island tour
Everyone knows this won't happen because they won't stream it.
This type of irl kino is something Cover is either too scared or too incompetent to do, as much as I would love for them to steal the concept and beat Niji at their own game.

>>11774620
that one with scuffed fps? 94k

>>11774650
Anon, Polka does it on legend of Polka but it's still on premiere format. She visited a beach before.

>>11774594
Hal is shaky if its not APEX. Kuzuha takes a hit if its not APEX but his numbers are still good, Hal not so much. Don't use Hal's numbers from him being godview of a tourney either.

>>11774558
He's on SC ranking a bunch

>>11774675
Those are subbed right?

>>11774517
Now it's the "OFC IT'S EXPECTED" copium

They don't even have the foreign audience buff due to the stream content not even being universally digestible since it's not a singing stream on top of nijisanji being out of the radar for most people in the west, cope more.

>>11774650
>>11774675
Good point, they stole Polka's idea

>>11774674
>homo at 1k
The fuck are they inclining? Its not Astel or Roberu

>>11774701
>foreign audience
>the west
Yeah, only Japan and the west exist.

>>11774675
That's true, but comparing the hype for Legend of Polka to what the other anon described is very different.
Has Polka had other holomems as guests on her show? I haven't been following.

>>11774706
Nah, like most things, they stole from traditional streamers/youtubers because vtubers are just those but with an avatar.

>>11774701
>holojp events at jp primetime
>foreign buff
That's real coping

>>11774706
Mito does irl content. The guys did a challenge video not an exploration.

>>11774679
Hal is honorary Niji because of his good numbers in Apex. Had Hal had shitty numbers no one would even adopt his FPS addicted ass.

>>11774577
It's like a group Kuzuha + Kanae

>>11774594
Four OF the most popular, not the four most popular. And I was talking about manjisanji.
>>11774558
How is he not? He'd be easily among the top nijimales if he had a 3D. We can ignore him tho, if you want to.
Still, it's Kenmochi, Fuwa and Kagami on the official Niji channel vs. Suisei.

>>11774674
WTF? Shien inclining?

>>11774734
Yeah, that's the problem with legend of polka. It's boring because it's centered around Polka and her assistant. She could've at least get some guests from other Holomembers.

>>11774767
Thats stupid. The vtubers who play APEX should be honorary KNR instead. Hal is THE APEX guy in JP. Its like him and CR as a group.

>>11774767
>Hal is honorary Niji because of his good numbers in Ap
You surely mean Kuzuha is an honorary Hal subject

>>11774700
Yeah, I've watched a couple of episodes before, they're subbed upon premiere.

>>11774767
Hal is an honorary Holo, retard.

Why not actually get anons from the Nijimales thread to contribute to this thread instead of pretending?

>>11774739
lmao, 26k non-Japanese viewers watched the Mori-Irys singing collab a few days ago right in JP prime time

>>11774816
Or A-chan at least

>>11774679
it's okay they can all just play apex in real life, a fight to death

>>11774452

What nijiniggers sees.

>>11774871
>HoloJP events
>Mori-Irys
your reading reps anon...

>>11774871
YWNBJ Seanijinigger.

>>11774901
EOPs, ESLs still watch holoJP big events

>>11774739
there's literally posts about Suisei's live being trending in the states right now.

you're the one who's coping

>>11774452
I want to see this but only for solo normal stream so no events, no collabs

>>11774206
Who?

>>11774965
That's a really boring list since it'll be Pekora and Kuzuha every other day since they get the best numbers for regular streams.

>>11774231
https://youtu.be/Zkho4j4WhTM

>>11774965
>>11774987
Kuzuha normal Apex don't get good numbers these days.
>3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
>6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
>8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
>14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft
>17) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.4k - Judge Eyes
>18) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.5k - Summer craft championship
>20) Subaru (Hololive) - 26.4k - Minecraft
Rough idea, some are debatable of course.

>>11774289
It's on some no name channel
https://youtu.be/Zkho4j4WhTM

I can tell by the number of posts in the last hour that this thread has reached peak retardation

>>11775036 (me)
Oh I just realized what you meant, never mind.

>>11774987
Kuzuha only gets his numbers during collabs/tournaments. His normal stream numbers are similar to mid-tier Holos at best

>>11774739
Just because it's JP primetime doesn't magically make it a shitty time for every other time zone. Stop being retarded.
Holos have a huge overseas following, and they will watch special events live even if they're not happening at the best possible time.

>>11774626
And festival wants to insert herself
Matuli...

Looks like we're in the timeloop again where Hololive having a global fanbase is somehow a bad thing and numberniggers try to discredit their numbers with a nebulous "foreign buff" that can't be quantified.

>>11774674
Weak day

>>11775018
>4.2k views / 58.5k subs = 7% turnout ratio
>14k views / 890k subs = 1.5% " "
I see no problem at all, nijisanji channel still mogged

>>11775093
Not true. Holos foreign followers are mostly clip watchers so they don't really add much to statistics. Also Susan loves to cull foreign views so there's that too.

How many viewers did Suisei have?

Risu is at 7.4K already and she’s just talking, 15K seems doable

>>11775171
n-no! how dare you use my coping method against myself when it's not in my favor!

>>11775195
Why are you chinese?

>>11775093
JP primetime is 4am PST/7am EST so it is an incredibly shitty timezone for NA.
The overseas fans watching these events live are more likely Euros, HK/Taiwan/Chinese VPNs, or SEA.

>>11775227
Hey, how dare you forget about us graveyard shift peeps...
It's not like managment forgets about us too...

>>11775200
Iofi…

>>11775195
>a fucking bug posting

I'm a little curious about Hal. Is Hal getting a good number only on Apex a bad thing? Is using your strong point (or talent) to cater toward certain group of audiences bad? When he got low number while doing something outside of Apex, I usually saw some anon shit on him.

Sorry Risu, shouldn't have overlapped all of those special streams

>>11775092
>His normal stream numbers are similar to mid-tier Holos at best
This is just patently untrue.
Even on lackluster days, average Kuzuha Apex clocks in 23k, which is a number only top tier Holos get.
You're vastly overestimating the number of Holos that get 20k+ normal streams.
Mid-tier Holo would be Okayu/Flare level.

>>11775278
you can't access youtube in China, retard

>>11775279
>Is Hal getting a good number only on Apex a bad thing?
No. Numbers are numbers

>>11775218
Because I live in Taiwan. Are you having a problem with that, retard?

>>11775312
But why are you chinese?

>>11775279
is being a one trick pony a good thing? Imagine if EA takes down all their apex servers tomorrow

>>11775283
Watch how no-one will overlap Moona tomorrow

>>11775312
Yes, my problem is that you're not Japanese.

>>11775302
kek, yes, and spambots were never a thing

>>11775279
No but it shows that he's a one-trick pony and these kinds of people don't stay long unless they reinvent themselves for the next big thing.

>>11775283
Well, she’s doing pretty good despite the overlap, unlike Iofi yesterday, that was bad

>>11775279
There's nothing wrong with being a one trick streamer.
If anything, it's most streamers. Even Kuzuha and FPS_Shaka mostly stream Apex.
The problem comes when retards on an english forum board start calling you Emperor because they misconstrue your tournament hosting numbers as the norm, when in reality, you're a 15k Apex, 3k other games streamer.

>>11775092
>>11775299
>20k+ <
High tier
>11k-20k
high Mid tier
>5k-10k
lower Mid tier
>1k-5k
Low tier
>1k >
Trash

>>11775171
Cool now compare levergacha to holo's shitty game show

>>11775342
doubt

>>11775398
Your shitpost, your job

>>11775227
Just go to bed early, you baby.

>>11775385
who are you trying to fool, you were the one calling him emperor

>>11775433
I'm not the one who started coping with low view premier tho

>>11775460
No, YOU were. I saw you do it.

>>11775299
don't blink

Here is one interesting chart
>Mean average of CCV, Hololive and branches
JP surely inclined in October (so far) in relation to September. EN is about the same (debuffed by the new gen) and ID is in a free fall.

>>11775498
kek bad day to do it, good chance of being beaten by Hal on the same game

>>11775385
>misconstrue your tournament hosting numbers as the norm
This mostly for me. Saw in another thread some retarded anon claim Reid was a strong streamer but he was probably using numbers from when Reid was the godview. Most FPS streamers in JP stream APEX because its like the fucking national FPS of Japan with attempts to boost others not really successfull. And its known that APEXfags aren't loyal. Kuzuha's numbers can drop below 20k, they turn on streamers easily (see Chihiro/Aqua) and even Noah had to tweet asking for support and no negative comments because she's trying the same solo Master challenge that the other two girls tried too.

Why is Niji's main channel game so strong while Holo's are so weak (outside of Hologra)?
Tourists that won't even bother watching the individual livers?
>>11775517
>ID
I have nothing to say to them.

>>11775517
I was expecting a lower EN with how less the streams we had so far, and obviously lower end ccvs

>>11775498
Kuzuha has always been the star in ChroNoir like Daruma in DaruSaka.

>>11775498
https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly/2021-10-13
He started his stream at 2am and got 19k at 7am after 5 hours.
It was very impressive actually.

>>11775574
>livers

>>11775593
Those are not vtubers

>>11775574
For Maruyama I can say that they started it retardedly with MonHun Rise because by then, most fans have already consumed so many streams of that game. The holos they had on weren't playing it on stream/video for the first time either.

>>11775517
Here is the same chart, but median of peaks instead of mean of CCV

>>11775574
Official channel :
short video/ song : Holo> Niji
live stream : Niji > Holo

>>11775625
And? I'm comparing them as male duos.

>9.5K
I feel bad for Iofi

>>11775582
what? fewer streams usually mean higher CCVs

>>11775610
What's so bad about livers? Even Okayu has called herself that. Might be because Shiina, though.

>>11775673
How much did she get? I always forget Iofi. Hell, I remember Anya more than her.

>>11775673
Why?

>>11775684
>yozora mel, akirose, risu

>>11775610
liver is a much better name than vtuber.
Imagine calling yourself a vtuber while streaming on Twitch

>>11775639
Looks like a good month for Holo. Myth hasn't announced new outfits yet

>>11775673
Why? Lofi was always the janetty out of ID Gen 1, even if she has the most networking in all Hololive. Risu is just Ayame's level and the Moon is just the Moon.

>>11775756

>>11775574
I mean, the 94k HoloFantasy 3D announcement stream was on the main channel.
Depends on who the guests are for the main channel streams.

I do feel like overlap hurts the Holo main channel more than the Niji main channel.
For Holos, the main channel usually streams at the same time as Pekora/Marine and other big Holo streams, so people choose their oshis instead.
For Nijis, only Kuzuha has the power to draw away viewers from the main channel and he usually starts hours after the main channel does their special streams.

>>11775756
Liver is what Japanese use for streamer

>>11775700
Iofi is just forgettable for some reason

>>11775694
sure donate your livers for merch. nijisanji just want to sound cool, and no, they don't. call them streamers.

>>11775283
I mean it was either overlap those or overlap Suisei's live...

>>11775764
they are anounced but havent schdeueld yet.
I think i heard end ofthe month from mori but could be wrong

>>11775639
Here is the "mean of peaks", which is the one used in "that" chart.

START FROM YOUR FEET YOU DUMB TREE RAT

RISUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>11775893
FUCK NO YOU STUPID TREERAT THAT'S THE WRONG WAY ARGH.

>>11775785
still a better name than vtuber

>starting from the top
risu...
there goes my 15K prediction

dumb treerrat revealing head first..

WHY DOES THIS FUCKING RAT HATE NUMBERS

I KNOW YOU'RE WATCHING THIS THREAD RISU

>>11775574
Hololive is a talent-first agency so much of the collaborations' main POVs are on the talents' channel.
Nijisanji on the other hand cares more about numbers and profit so big collaborations usually happen on the main channel.

THERE IS HOPE YET

>>11775893
There you go

>>11775893
>>11775915
>>11775921
>>11775932
>>11775934
Thank god chat started to spam Feet, face hasn't been revealed yet, so there's still some time.

>>11775694
Even their official translation uses vtuber, not liver.

>>11775823
And here is how "that" chart would look like today. Don't have Niji numbers yet but it is a sneak preview

>>11775811
For me, her design and honestly her debut wasn't memorable at all. I can remember Risu's singing and surprising Japanese in the debut and Moona singing spongebob and stuff like dogs/motorcycle noises. Don't remember a thing about Iofi's. Also not a fan of her art. I do like that she sometimes does those talking streams with Sora.

I think Nijisanji only needs to do 3D streams on their main channel to take the top spot in this month.

JUST KIDDING ANONS

>>11776039
A liver doesn't necessarily mean a vtuber but a vtuber can be a liver.

>>11776120
Too bad the Nijiguys 3D thing has its own channel now, Nijisanji ch. can't leech off it.

>>11776135
THANK GOD CHAT IS SMARTER THAN THAT FUCKING TREERAT

YES DO IT SLOW YOU SLUT

>>11776135
RISU STOP OVERLAPPING WITH JP I KNOW YOU ARE HERE

>>11776071
HoloEN reclining...

>>11776071
Saw this from a mile away. It's the ONLY thing they can ever see.
>>11776199

>>11776071
Do we have a mean or median of average ccv? Feel like for long-term tracking that makes a lot more sense

>>11775823
>>11775639
Hmm, Hololive as a whole inclined while HoloEN slightly declined (or stagnated / stabilized, whatever term you want to use). HoloEN is understandable since Council has been taking break, but I didn't expect Holo as a whole to incline. Guess HoloJP carried their weights there

>>11776199
Yep, and surprisingly a lot less than expected because
1) Sana is on a break
2) Gura is on a streak

If this outfit is an excuse to use her Ayunda voice then Risu for the love of god don’t use the original one ever again

>>11776226
Sorry Anon, I couldn't help myself!
Yes yes, ironic shitposting is still shitposting, but it was just. Too. Tempting!

>>11776171
The color and rigging looks nice

>>11776286
Yea, just numbers aside for a sec, wow this outfit is really, really nice.

Best tail of Hololive, easily. And also
>FUCKING TREERAT, YOUR NATURAL VOICE IS MUCH MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN THE SQUIRREL ONE!

15K GET

Risu 15K

>>11776243
3) Kronii is an addict

just a few more…

15K
>15K
15K
>15K
15K
>15K
15K
>15K

>>11776351
Nice as fuck

>>11776252
>If this outfit is an excuse to use her Ayunda voice then Risu for the love of god don’t use the original one ever again
agreed

>>11776365
15k Get...but Holostats didn't catch that peak FUCK.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/6zgzr8h1hjE

>>11776351
This looks really like one of those Light Novels' magical academies uniforms

>>11776386
addict to off stream

YOU GUYS ARE LYING

>>11776365
>15K GET
>>11776380
>Risu 15K
>>11776404
>15K
>>11776425
>15k Get
NOT SO FAST, INFIDELS!

She did get 15K very briefly. Holostats "only" got 14,994 tho.

>>11776462
>>11776463
IT MISSED THE PEAK FUCK

>>11776495
lol these anons won't be able to sleep tonight

>>11776517
>Miko dunking on Risu

Niji won today? Holy fuck my prediction. I jinxed myself again.

>>11776468
>>11776517
If there were no overlaps, do you think Risu could get 25k? Or she would still fail 20k?

>>11776659
Hey, at least HoloID manages to pull numbers once I'm a while...better than their competitors in that regard at least.

>>11776659
holoJP, purisu anderstando

>>11776768
Yeah they needed it, they been smoked hard this month afterall

the number predictions on Risu were right, I wonder if Moona can win tomorrow

>>11776411
*nice to fuck

>>11776846
Moona is on a different level than Risu and Iofi. She can probably get 25k-30k but winning the day will be very hard

>>11776896
I said peak 20k max

>AYAME IS ANNOUNCING A FACE REVEAL STREAM RIGHT NOW, TURN ON CNN!

>>11776846
Moona will get like 20k i doubt she will win tomorrow.

>>11776768
Please repent and call yagoo to release the emergency collab CunnySea.

>>11776846
I predicted 15K for Risu and 30K for Moona after Iofi's stream.
i am not so confident in Moona's prediction tho, a lot depends on the overlaps

>>11776120
We should go back to 3Ds being the norm instead of L2D.

>>11777053
Ironic considering Mito popularized l2d.

>>11776896
Short hair tho...shitsux, I'll just wait for someone post how it looks.

>>11777084
Yep. We should go back. Its been around 2 years already?

>>11777084
>Mito popularized l2d
Haha, no.

Tamaki outfit reveal https://youtu.be/_wuMfS40HYQ

Estimates? Will the numbers behave like a niji (not that special) or a holo(big numbers)?

>>11777163
Aren't Niji numbers special tho? It will do good numbers.

>>11777163
It'll probably top up around 15-20k

>>11777163
I wouldnt expect much after the disappointment that were her birthday and 3Ds. But some holos are calling in, so who knows

>>11777156
Umm yes. Nijiniggers popularize the L2D style

>>11776240
>EN wins 5 months
>carried their weights
kek

>>11777163
Half of Ui mama number, so 20k I guess?

>>11777422
>EN wins 5 months
using the average numbers which is retarded

>that deltarune debuff

>>11777163
10k

>>11776199
I feel like it was expected. The debut of Myth was explosive and it would have been very unlikely they kept that sort of steam going. It will be interesting to see where they go from here over the next few months.

>>11777475
See>>11775639
>average
It says "Median of Peak" ,retard

>>11777527
i find it weird, why does undertale is such a huge buff but deltarune;s a debuff? it's basically the same game.

>>11777163
>Who do you want to meet NOW
>Nobuhime
Just collab already please

>>11777527
Why hasn't Deltarune been as big a hit as Undertale?
>>11777550
Why is Myth the equivalent of Undertale and Council the equivalent of Deltarune?

>>11777527
>Reine and Anya playing buff games
>Ollie playing part 4 of a debuff game
Ollie….

>>11777648
because undertale is complete

>>11777618
same shit.
JP has dead weights like Choco or Mel, when EN get 50 members they'll dead weights as well.
And the dead weights drag the average down

>>11777707
>part4
how you stretch deltarun to 4 parts?
even sanas was 2 and she did each chapter on oeach one.

>>11777707
I don't think RE is a buff or debuff game. Its normal.

>>11777721
Cope
Kiara,Sana are dead weights too,retard

>>11777163
Holyshit Tamaki is 750k now!?

>>11777806
>4k ccv
>dead weights

>>11777747
Ollie is far less skilled, and also did far shorter sessions than Sana. Sana is actually pretty good at games, having seen her play deltarune and Celeste. Of course 'pretty good' being compared to most of HoloEN.

>>11777721
Choco is not a dead weight though.

>>11777798
it is for Reine right now

Using average ccv across talents seems wrong somehow. If a company debuts a new generation that matches the average of the preceding generations and thereby expands the fanbase, views, SC etc without moving the needle on means/medians, is that not a success? If you manage to double your viewerbase going from 1 gen to 2 without cannibalizing your viewers, that seems like a win to me. There has to be a better metric for measuring a companies growth aside from revenue which is too sporadic. Overall views perhaps?

>>11777889
>>11777923
Everyone who is below the average is dead weight.

>>11777967
I think its better to get average or mean per generation

>>11777923
>Mel
>Streams like 3 times a month
>drag the average down

>Meanwhile Kiara
>Streams almost everyday

>>11777967
Yes, so as a metric of 'growth' when adding a new gen it's a silly metric. It's good for tracking trends of existing talents, but cannot parse the addition of new ones' affect on overall audience growth.

>>11777967
people focusing on one metric dont see the big picture. Like the post below you.
Growth happens in many ways and so declines. Is best to keep a track of all posible variables.

>>11777967
we need to calculate the total CCV aka the total number of view a branch is having in any given time.
The get the peak of that everyday and then calculate the median for every month

Don't forget JP don't do SC reading streams
They read SC right after stream over

While EN do a lot of SC reading streams which drag the average down

>>11778170
>JP don't do SC reading streams
Kek

>>11778170
Rushia do. Watame do. Nene do. Lamy do. Alot more JP do it more than EN i just name few on the top of my head.

>https://youtu.be/c5-3gotpgz8
This video is actually interesting. I don't know if that work for streamers though

>>11778271
>Rushia
>Doed SC reading streams

>>11778361
>11 out of 12 SC reading streams.
Anon..

>>11778170
>which drag the average down
Except the average as in calculated at >>11775517 is unaffected by that.

The calculation for the collective average is the same as the calculation within a single stream meaning it doesn't matter if the SC reading is split in two streams or done in the same stream, the end result is the same.

For instance, take these two cases
>one 1 hour regular stream @ 10k avg CCV + a second SC 2 hours reading stream @ 5k avg ccv
and
>a three hours mixed stream @ 6.6k avg CCV

The traditional way to calculate the mean for the first case would result in
>(10k + 5k) / 2 streams = 7.5k average
where in the way >>11775517 was calculated it would be
>((10k * 1h) + (5k * 2h)) / (1h + 2h) = 20kk / 3h = 6.6k
Which is the correct value whether it is in a single stream or split.

Bottom line is: >>11775517 is unaffected by superchat reading

>>11778420
Are you retard?
SC reading streams mean only read SC

>>11778420
This is SC reading streams
Blindchama...

>>11778440
Incidentally that's how the average is calculated within a single stream as well
>((3672 * 20seconds) + (4014 * 20seconds) + ... + (13092 * 20 seconds)) / (20 seconds+ 20 seconds + ... + 20 seconds) = 9508

>>11778511
>>11778572
See >>11778440 and >>11778580, this chart at >>11775517 is not affected by splitting the stream into SC and not SC or by having it in the same stream.

>>11778143
Niji numbers.
>>11777198
only for 3D debuts. Niji 2D outfit updates gets a small bump like around 50% increase from their regular streams.

>>11778440
Doesn't really matter, ENs have cultivated a culture where they turn off SCs and do not encourage people to stay around for SC reading while JPs are pretty shameless about it, less people turn out for EN SC readings making it look like their average is lower.

>>11778696
>ENs have cultivated a culture where they turn off SCs
Tell that to Kiara and the nijiENs.

>>11778617
Because some charts we use as a reference from other sites are mean peak of ccv.

>>11778440
I think mainly due to overlap. HoloEn is about the same. But NijiEn's numbers are going to be pretty terrible this month

>>11778617
Yes it won't affect Mean Average
But it will affect Median of Peak which is the only thing we care about

>>11778296
Ok the beginning part was gonna turn me off but thank god the guy that made the video has a better voice.

Anyone manage to scrape any numbers on the Suisei concert stream? Was it shitting itself because of bandwidth issues or was there some other technical problem?

>>11778025
>per generation
No can compete with 3rd gen so is kinda unnecessary

>>11779087
HoloMyth

>>11778826
>which is the only thing we care about
I care about all of them.

>>11778696
>ENs have cultivated a culture where they turn off SCs and do not encourage people to stay around for SC reading
Nor does JP and you can see that clearly in any of the charts, the HUGE CLIFF that starts when the streamer pretty much shoos away the audience to start SC reading

It is one of my main criticisms, SC reading is one important part of the stream of various chuubas like Subaru, Okayu (whose SC reading is indistringuishable from her regular zatsu), Kanata, Ayame, even Haachama does a whole post show in SC reading but all of that play a huge ass ED implying the stream is over to turn away the audience.
They shouldn't, they should just cut quick to SC reading and keep the audience, it is an entertaining part of the stream

>>11778170
>Don't forget JP don't do SC reading streams

>>11779110
No

Is there any source we can see SC distribution from old fans(>1 year) and new fans?
Old fan should give higher SC than new fans.

Do you guys think Nina will eat entire RU market?
Maybe Botan will bleed russian fans

>>11779328
She doesn't do shooters, and is not much of a gamer at all. She is not gonna get much of Botan's audience.
Her appeal is totally different too. She would get a share but not much of Botan's share of the RU market.

>>11779195
OK I will give Watame a pass
But she seems like rarely doing that

>>11779294
I don't see any other gen with the highest average subs, VODs, SCs

>>11779328
>Do you guys think Nina will eat entire RU market?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, unless the Ru market is like, 75 slavs that is very unlikely
You can actually check for yourself, Anya reading fucking superchat has a bigger audience right now

Nina: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxKMTmuectE
Anya: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-7s7nnZQI0

>>11778296
Ah. hahaha. Session time. Fuck. This is what makes hololive clipping so bloody powerful as an algo hack.
Consider, you click one clip, you're probably going to watch a bunch of other holo clips. Bloody hell, if anything these are the key points out of the video
-Short storylines/punchlines that draw people in
-Session time retention per user is high
-Thumbnails and titles that hook people
And thus, Hololive clippers have, through brute-force optimization, already come to the same conclusion and thus we see the rise of the short-clip meta, etc etc.
TL;DR - Hololive clippers already do this FOR Hololive, so the streamers don't need to. NijiEN clippers need to start using this shit more aggressively if they want to stand a chance at gaining ground against an established incumbent.

>>11779465
It won't work anon. Watching any vtuber clip recommends hololive clips. The algo needs to stop favoring holo in general.

>>11779328
Yeah sure, and millie will eat the entire pinoy holofags too. Come on anon, this is literally bait thread material.

>>11779328
go away nina

>>11779507
That is a problem isn't it. Hololive is so entrenched on YT that in the EN-sphere, v-tuber = Hololive to many. It's basically the strat from the vid, multiplied across so many clipper channels. How do you fight that, as NijiEN?

>>11779553
Actually scout a Gura and Mori Tier chuubas.

>>11779553
It is a tough battle. Needs a stoic audience and dedicated clippers to get even a fraction of algo recognition, and they can't fight the sheer volume of existing Holo clips and the amount that gets pumped out every hour. For every person just watching Niji clips, there are many more that are consuming general clips or even just Holo clips, and the more clicks those get the more they stay relevant.

>>11779403
>Rarely doing that
She commonly does them. While there are "only" four streams explicitly for SC reading listed here she commonly does them and some only have it in Japanese w/ すーぱーちゃ. Also they're still 5-6 hour streams anon.

>>11779618
They have to scout non-streamer, how many of NijiEN are not pure streamer?

>>11779698
None of them.
They’re all pure streamers.

>>11779432
>I don't see any other gen with the highest average (...) SCs
Sorry anon, you are sorely mistaken. Here are the results of September 2021, the month of the anniversary of EN Myth gen

>$104,604 :: Rushia (gen1)
>$64,921 :: Call (en1)
>$59,544 :: Pekora (gen1)
>$54,277 :: Kiara (en1)
>$45,273 :: Noel (gen1)
>$41,114 :: Amelia (en1)
>$39,210 :: Gura (en1)
>$31,307 :: Marine (gen1)
>$28,801 :: Ina (en1)
>$22,896 :: Flare (gen1)

Total
>jp3: $263,624
>en1: $228,323

>>11779507
>Watching any vtuber clip recommends hololive clips.
This. Youtube is basically hololive's playhouse.

>>11779736
Replace "gen1" with "jp3" there

>>11779736
Why is Rushia so fucking high? She is fake as fuck.

>>11779736
Marine isn't even 100% that month since she took a a break.

There is this channel callee "Memeable". Despite not having anything related to Hololive in channel name, profile image and banner, most of their videos are Holo memes. And the best thing is, almost all of those meme videos are averaged at around >100k views. While not big viral, that is very impressive because how consistant the views are since the channel itself only has around 27k subs.

THIS IS NIJISANJI WITHOUT THE KING, ETC, ETC, EATING CURRY MESH WITHOUT A PLATE FROM THE FLOOR, ETC ETC

>>11779806
It's her style, she farms a lot of gachikois even unicorns. Kiara and Calli may have gachikois but the latter are very few.

>>11779873
Imagine being in a major group and pulling under a 100. That's got to sting a bit.

>>11779806
>Why is Rushia so fucking high? She is fake as fuck.
Imagine girlfriend experience, a la Darling to the Franxx (any of the girls, Zero Two, Kororo, even fucking worst girl Strawberry).
Now imagine cute retarded daughter you want to protect, a la (for instance) Kana from Dragon Maid, or Latina from that "If It's for My Daughter, I'd Even Defeat a Demon Lord" show.
Now imagine a fucking unconditional love yandere girl like Yuno Gasai

Now mash the three concepts together and you got Rushia, arguably in real life too. It's the perfect storm for gachis

>>11779873
I don't care if this is a tribalnigger post, Hayama is here and just looking at her makes me happy.

>>11779873
>Nijisanji's horde of chuubas spamming streams everyday to appease the algorithm
>Hololive's horde of clippers spamming clips everyday to appease the algorithm
When you can't beat clippers, pump more chuubas to defeat them

>>11779806
Fake...
I dunno anon, the thing is I'm not entirely sure it's completely fake. If the rrats I've heard that Rushia's roommate was cheated on are true, it could go a long way to explaining some of the members content leaks I've been. She might have genuinely entered into a parasocial relationship with her chat.

>>11780015
>I don't care if this is a tribalnigger post
It's not? At most, some light hearted jest

>SC

Total SC January - September

>Hololive MYTH

Mori Calliope - $623,450
Takanashi Kiara - $587,010
Gawr Gura - $514,768
Amelia Watson - $310,213
Ninomae Ina'nis - $275,866

>Hololive Fantasy

Uruha Rushia - $1,353,640
Houshou Marine - $762,120
Usada Pekora - $693,832
Shiranui Flare - $414,482
Shirogane Noel - $352,592

>>11780007
She is just perfection.

>>11780062
She quite happily talked about how shit she was treated by the one boyfriend she's supposedly had before she joined Hololive, and it just sounds like classic abusive pump and dump. I genuinely believe she isn't being all that fake, she definitely knows what her gachikois want and plays into it a bit, but it's not 100% an act.
>>11780085
Don't care either way, Hayama makes me happy so the image makes me happy.

>>11780102
First beats first, second beats second, etc. Don't even need to sum to know gen3 is in the lead. I wouldn't be surprised if you could remove Rushia and it would still be ahead

>>11775195
>>11775312
>using simplified chinese
Why bugs always try to pretend to be Taiwanese kek

>>11780102
I really do think that Gura is going to start seriously moving ahead when it comes to SC now, she's been doing really well with it lately now that she's reading them all and even responding live a lot more. Kronii has fallen off a bit, though, it honestly looked like she might challenge Mori for a while there.

>>11780102
Do you have each member SC growth? Using same method as ccv (median SC each month)
Make a self-comparison

>>11779873
Oh hey, nina joined the party

>>11780301
>Using same method as ccv (median SC each month)
That's silly. CCV makes sense doing a median or mean, Superchat only makes sense doing a straight up sum.

>>11779873
This. Those bottom feeders would unironically be better off in one of the start up orgs. They are small but have pretty dedicated fans. Nijikeks only care about you if you are Male or if they can ne tourists on some big event stream. Nijikeks are the worst vtuber fans.

>>11780007
To be totally honest, her roommate being very cute probably helps some too, given the fansbase she is cultivating

>>11780255
Mori and kiara combined is below rushia that alone tells you something specially those two are considered monster in SC

>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - OCTOBER 2021

1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament
10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse51
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna
13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft
15) Naraka (Nijisanji) - 53k - 3D Debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 33k - Blazing Sails Niji Tournament
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.4k - Judge Eyes
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.5k - Summer craft championship
19) Suisei (Hololive) - 83.5k - Outfit Reveal
20) Subaru (Hololive) - 26.4k - Minecraft
21) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 63.2k - Survival Island End Stream

>FUTURE EVENTS/SPECULATIONS
22) Moona - Outfit Reveal

>>11780102
Kiara being ahead of Gura always impresses me. She may not have ccv but her members and SC are solid for her size.

>>11780452
>Kiara being ahead of Gura always impresses me.
Why? Kiara devotes easy peasy 12 hours per week reading superchat (I'm likely lowballing) while Gura (and Ina) barely glanced at theirs for most of their first months until it became a running meme

>>11780452
The gap between Rushia and Pekora is even higher.

>>11779873
When does slow and steady start working?

>>11780404
Nijifans also don’t care if you can’t make a living as a vtuber in their company and even say it as a positive thing.

>>11780543
True be told, as far as Hololive goes there is Rushia, then there is a [POWER GAP], then the rest fight for scraps.
Rushia has been on the Top 5 at worst, top 2 usually, most superchatted monthly worldwide the whole year

>>11780007
It's funny to me how Rushia's SC reading is like this confession zone while the only one higher was Coco whose SC were wacky jokesters oneupping each other to get her to throw tsukkomi at them. Such a contrast in culture.

>>11780442
>FUTURE EVENTS/SPECULATIONS
>Moona - Outfit Reveal
kek, trying to get it wrong again anon?

>>11780607
Then, why be a vtuber then honestly. If they preached that, future talents might as well go to Hololive instead if they want to make it big and stay big after graduation like what it did to Coco.

>When HoloEN collab with HoloJP:
Hype! Wow! Peko! Ahoy! Doggo! Friend! Onion! Cutting board! Nyahello~ Shuba! TMT!

>When nijien collab with nijijp:
Hype! Wow! ... Who?

Rushia does not do SC only stream because her SC time are > 50% of her streams.
More like she never do game only stream.

Is Ina the only EN who doesn't read superchats?

>>11780739
My prediction is 20-30k. Enough to get top 1 if there's no other significant event in the company or in Nijisanji. It's a Friday too, so big events for niji is out of the question. They usually do it during weekends.

>>11780804
Nah, "same chan" is thrown around by the JP crowd very often, and also they absolutely LOVED ClockGirl's voice

>>11780822
hm my prediction is low 20ks, which would beat literally 0 of those other days listed. Shed have to get pretty lucky in terms of competition.

>>11780822
>My prediction is 20-30k. Enough to get top 1
I don't know anon, I can see Pekora, Subaru and Miko doing a basic bitch regular ass stream and, depending on the overlaps, beating 30k with ease

>>11780607
No wonder their brand is meaningless in the west and even in Japan is only good for 2 months. Even VShojo cares more about their unpopular talents.

>>11780819
Ina reads them while playing

>>11780819
She reads them if they're either horrid pins that make her laugh, personal growth milestones like graduating uni or getting a new job, or requesting a happy birthday.

Ina jumping in on yet another shit game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVMqFMNdcfI

>>11780916
Just like kuzuha

>>11780886
The issue stems from mostly how the fanbase sees the talents.
Instead of seeing them as a collective, they see them as individual streamers.
My personal anecdote but I have friends who have said that they just treat them (NijiEN) as if they were indies in regards to their viewing habits.

>N-Nina…
Maybe trying to flee rush hour didn’t help. What’s next?

Anyone got the numbers for peak live watchers of Suisei's Solo Live free portion on YT?
Also, is there a way to find out the approx. ticket sales for concerts like these?

>>11781379
Peak is 42k.
And no there's no reliable way to do so

>>11779728
What happened to the Opera singer girl? I don't pay attention to ddox, but is she still in or was that another case of /vt/ being wrong about a liver’s identity again?

>>11773699
PUBG? Really Miko? She seems to be going out of her way to not play Minecraft right now aside from her server tour with Bae. PUBG, racing game, motorcycle game, Ace Attorney, etc. Hey, she is still putting up strong numbers which is awesome. Good for her.

>>11781379
For the first, please use holostats for any Hololive peak streams that are on a Hololive channel.
For the second, no, unless Suisei says how many were sold we won't know.

>>11781379
An anon managed to scrape SPWN data back then during Fes 2 but I don't know if he still did it or not.
>>11781432
Not in NijiEN3.

>>11781379
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/LtqzI9y5yII
holostats got the stream so that one is easy
the ticket thing on the other hand is hard unless its published by cover themselfs

>>11781334
Fleeing Niji EN prime time isn't going to work for Niji EN ever. They have been unable to grow their viewerbase pretty much at all. Their viewerbase is at NA prime time in the night, they have very little pull anywhere else.

>>11781456
The fact that it had 60k or so tweets and took #1 worldwide trending implies that a lot of people were watching. No firm numbers but it's pretty unlikely <6K viewers generated that many tweets. It was probably much, much more than that.

>>11781562
You can't really say that until they try, no? Ina was very consistent about her times even though the slot is pretty bad overall it had minimal competition and she grew to ~10K averages over the course of a year.

>>11781435
Miko doesn't really spam MC though. Unless she have shiraken collab or she have projects working on MC she usually do one per week if im not mistaken just like pekora.

>>11781435
she played minecraft yesterday with Flare, just not on her channel

>>11781565
>60k
More than 120k

>>11781808
Shit. I looked mid concert. Which is a good sign, the next 60K were presumably from people who were actually watching, and not from the free stream. The way she was shilling/pushing the concert even over the album makes me think she made an absolute killing on it. Especially since it was all her originals and she owns the rights to her character.

Daily top will be posted next thread. This one is near page 11 already and it would just be a waste

>>11782521
>>11782521
>>11782521
migrate when ready

>>11782600
Thread will survive at very least another hour.

>>11782774
we are three threads from getting knocked off the board, that is very optimistic

>>11782833
I am the other one doing OP. I usually wait until this one is at Page 11 to kick it off the catalog with the new one.

Trust me, from >>11782774 to out of catalog, unless someone bumps the defunct threads (which I also usually do, btw, to speed up the process), this one is lasting another 40 mins

With this very last post of I'll declare this whole thread allegiance to the one true empress of numbers
>Ayame
WE ALL KNEEL!
(Any objection? Nay?)

>>11783086
I refuse