/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

Do Youtube membership numbers tend to incline over time, or do they go up and down like Twitch subs?

Is Wave 4 even going to help NijiEN incline? A huge part of their fanbase were former holofans, idolfags who despises male interactions etc

>>11782864
They already collab with males (some of them).
I wonder how Rosemi will handle it since she seems to be doing some sort of GFE.

>>11782775
It's way too channel specific to make a generalization but mostly up and down. There will always be a core of hardcore fans and people who just forget about a 5/month charge, but Patreon, Twitch, Onlyfans etc all seem to show that like 90% of subs will leave after 3months or so. That's fine because the 10% that remain often become long-term subscribers and you can slowly build your base over time

>>11782775
probably up and down.
but i do think people on YT would join membership and then just forget about it.
While on Twitch the resub and gifted subs mechanics make it easier to remember to not renew the sub.

The new YT free membership message might have been bad for revenue in the long run, but there's no way to check it.

>>11783018
Do you all think the free membership message also make it so people superchatted less?

At what date did it go live for general users?

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

Here it goes
>63,203: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>42,514: Suisei (Hololive)
>25,382: Hibuya Hal (Indie)
>19,181: Miko (Hololive)
>17,460: Gura (Hololive)
>16,756: Hibuya Hal (Indie)
>15,647: Miko (Hololive)
>14,994: Risu (Hololive)
>13,411: Hibuya Hal (Indie)
>13,128: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,766: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>11,865: Subaru (Hololive)
>10,102: Lamy (Hololive)

Another very skinny day

>>11783069
Not really, Kiara noted that the free membership messages don’t get saved and they expire in 1-2 min.

>>11783201
It scratches the itch tho. I noticed for some of my beloved that small SC got replaced by the free member message

Truth be told membership, in the long run, is better for tthe chuuba than SC so there is that too

>>11783018
I can say for me personally, the culture of members only streams make me member to channels I would otherwise not be membered to, whereas I've never wanted to sub to anyone on Twitch

>>11783287
>membership, in the long run, is better for the chuuba than SC
In the long run if people don't turn off membership it does gather up.
Otherwise, 2-6 month tourists will give out more in 1 superchat than in that whole period of being a member.

My main reasoning for joining so many memberships was that it's way cheeper to support that way than giving occasional Sc.

>>11782864
Depends entirely on who they got and how they'll present them. At this rate though, releasing more rapid waves of Hololive lite clearly isn't inclining them, so a male wave is their only chance to carve out a good niche for them. It's hard to tell since it's untested waters. Their performance could range from EN Kuzuha to literal 2view.

>>11783551
There are members-only streams available on twitch but doing them isn't looked upon fondly there like "what the fuck this option is just going to make it easier for e-thots to wring more money out of people"

>>11783183
Is it just me, or does Pekora's absence affect negatively on the other Holos?
Needs a bigger sample size, but it seems like more Holos pass the 20k line whenever Pekora is streaming, compared to days when she doesn't.
Or maybe it was just a slow couple of days.

>>11783792
the real reason why is because most of the active bigger names just didnt stream today - aqua, shion, rushia, botan, fubuki, haachama, noel, etc

It's like 3 a.m. in Japan right now

>>11783945
Is Aki on Twitcast? Is that what that symbol means?

>>11783792
So this is my take after asking a friend from Japan who is also a hololive fan. People in this thread asking about the timeslot overlap here and there for days recently. My friend said that Japan is in a month with elections, and the candidates are allowed to campaign for elections before 8pm, so holomems and other streamers tend to stream after 8pm because of the noise in the background, and chances to give away their location by audience recognizing the candidates voice.

>>11783985
twitter space

>>11783183
treerat...

>>11782864
>idolfags who despises male interactions
Boy did they jump to the wrong ship, then.

>>11783792
>Is it just me, or does Pekora's absence affect negatively on the other Holos?
Nah, it's actually a a confluence of factors

>all of Gen3 are absent, either on a break or rehearsing for their 3DLive (except for Flare, which is playing Metroid)
>Ayame is on Ayame Time
>Aqua is absent, likely on idol Reps
>Botan is likely resting
>Haachama is Haachamachama
It left Miko and Subaru to carry the house and they got their 10k but not 20k

>>11783996
>and other streamers tend to stream after 8pm because of the noise in the background, and chances to give away their location by audience recognizing the candidates voice.
kek, imagine believing this

Not even with Japan literally paper thin walls you would be as unlucky as to get a rally outside your house in Tokyo and have the candidate heard across the wall

>>11783183
>>11783792
>>11784094
Wasn't the night after Watame's concert pretty quiet in terms of streams as well?

>>11784079
to be fair tho niji were clearly trying to take a slice of hololive's audience with their strategy of releasing exclusively female waves so far.

>>11784134
I don't know about election campaigners but there was the one time Gundou claimed to be on vacation in Italy I think and you could hear the Japanese garbage truck announcements in the background lmao

>>11783909
None of them normally gets past the 20k line.
>>11783996
That's interesting, but at the same time it sounds a bit paranoid.

It might be just me. Pekora and Marine didn't stream, and Subaru and Miko played debuff games today. I guess Pekora and Marine don't share much of their audience with the rest.

>>11783996
Yup.
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1448829120507351046
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1448829517363961857

>>11784134
>>11784272
It absolutely is an issue, Coco and Kanata couldn't stream during the afternoons in June because of that issue, and the campaigning vehicles are loud. They are designed specifically to be head even if you are living at the top floor of your apartment, so unless you completely soundproof your room it's entirely possible for it to be picked up on stream

When will they sleep

>>11784556

Here is the number of streams above 20k per streamer, per range

>20000-29999 :: pekora(136), miko(98), marine(81), gura(72), subaru(53), aqua(39), korone(31), kanata(26), suisei(25), rushia(23), botan(19), fubuki(17), haato(16), calliope(14), amelia(13), coco(13), mio(12), ayame(10), okayu(10), noel(10), inanis(9), kiara(7), lamy(6), watame(6), matsuri(5), hololive(5), ouro(5), flare(4), irys(4), ceres(3), nene(3), shion(3), roboco(2), mel(2), mumei(2), hakos(2), moona(2), reine(2), himemoriluna(1), towa(1), aki(1), sora(1), ollie(1), choco(1), polka(1)
>30000-39999 :: pekora(125), marine(35), gura(19), subaru(10), korone(10), coco(10), miko(10), suisei(8), botan(7), mio(6), hololive(5), kiara(5), kanata(5), aqua(5), calliope(4), rushia(4), nene(4), ayame(3), haato(3), polka(3), shion(3), fubuki(3), towa(3), lamy(2), roboco(2), flare(2), noel(2), watame(2), okayu(2), mumei(2), ouro(2), sora(1), aki(1), matsuri(1), melfissa(1), amelia(1), himemoriluna(1), inanis(1), iofi(1), mel(1), azki(1), choco(1)
>40000-49999 :: pekora(28), marine(18), coco(10), miko(7), gura(7), mio(5), okayu(5), suisei(4), subaru(4), aqua(4), watame(3), lamy(3), polka(2), kanata(2), rushia(2), ayame(2), nene(2), noel(2), amelia(1), ouro(1), fubuki(1), hololive(1), matsuri(1), sora(1), flare(1), shion(1), inanis(1), kiara(1), korone(1), moona(1), botan(1), roboco(1)
>50000-59999 :: pekora(6), coco(5), marine(3), aqua(2), towa(2), kanata(2), nene(2), himemoriluna(2), miko(1), ollie(1), lamy(1), calliope(1), shion(1), botan(1), mio(1), gura(1), korone(1), haato(1), hololive(1)
>60000-69999 :: coco(5), pekora(4), marine(3), botan(3), noel(2), hololive(2), korone(2), watame(2), aqua(2), fubuki(2), haato(1), towa(1), miko(1), himemoriluna(1), kanata(1), flare(1), rushia(1), gura(1), okayu(1), suisei(1), subaru(1), hakos(1)
>70000-79999 :: pekora(4), korone(2), haato(2), coco(2), lamy(2), miko(1), okayu(1), mio(1), noel(1), kanata(1), towa(1), amelia(1), fubuki(1), marine(1), kiara(1), aqua(1), rushia(1)
>80000-89999 :: marine(2), suisei(2), coco(2), kanata(2), miko(1), ayame(1), pekora(1), botan(1), polka(1), watame(1), sana(1), aqua(1)
>90000-99999 :: coco(2), subaru(2), mumei(1), pekora(1), irys(1), botan(1), kanata(1), nene(1), lamy(1), hakos(1), hololive(1), ceres(1), ouro(1), inanis(1), polka(1), marine(1)
>100000-109999 :: noel(1), amelia(1), ayame(1), rushia(1), coco(1), aqua(1)
>110000-119999 :: nene(1)
>120000-129999 :: marine(1), subaru(1)
>130000-139999 :: marine(2), calliope(1)
>190000-199999 :: gura(1)
>490000-499999 :: coco(1)

>>11784675
This is for 2021, btw

>>11784675
Be curious to see this data for Niji. Do they have an easily scrapable site?

>>11784079
How long until a NijiEN girl flirts with a wave 4 guy and ends up losing a part of her fanbase.

>>11784556
Luna been taking this slot for a while, she is now nocturnal

>>11784772
I genuinely can only access from 2021-07-17 forward, thanks to Mado.
I'm wrestling the bottle and procrastinating to actually process the data I already scraped but the allure of the white delicious liquid prevents me from processing it

It should include all of Edengumi and all of NijiEN

>>11782976
Rosemi already collabed with males and no one cared. It's not like she'll start flirting with them.

>>11783183
>>42,514: Suisei (Hololive)
LMAO. Her first solo live and she couldn't even break 100k. Just goes to show how unremarkable her numbers are when you remove the guests. Unless you're aqua of course. Aqua is quite literally built different.

>>11784497
>couldn't stream
They could've streamed if they wanted to. They just chose not to.
I've heard the campaign announcements on multiple vtubers streams, but it never affected anything.

>>11785005

>>11784556
Why is Flare still playing that game? It's not that long.
Is she attempting to 100% it, or what?

>>11785023
Sure, until an autist tracks them down and rapes them on stream like that dude who figured out where an idol was staying based off the reflection in her eyes

>>11784900
>Rosemi already collabed with males and no one cared
kek, no one cared mostly because no one cared about her anyway

>>11785057
A better example would be the schizo who beat up someone he thought was Shion’s roommate.

>>11785056
keep dying at the final boss

>>11785056
She's sadly not very good a metroid

>>11783183
I thought premiere's didn't count hear?

>>11783183
I thought premieres didn't count here?

>>11785176
They did a livestream this time.

>>11785057
With hundreds of thousands of undeserved subs come the schizos. That's normal.
Joking aside, who the fuck cares about Kanata?

>>11785216

>>11785089
Uh. Why would anyone want to beat up Shion? What possible motivation could they have?

>>11783183
This is a hololive without Kiryu Coco. Watching hololive without Kiryu Coco is like eating Curry Rice without using any plates. Completely baseless. No different from pathetic nijisanji dogs who eat off the floor.

>>11785308
>schizo

>>11785308
You have never known anyone who's a brat?

>>11785308
Schizo antis.
It’s the main reason why Shion was out for a long time, legal shit and depression.

>>11785308
a lot of people just hate vtubers in japan, especially because theyve risen so high in some sorts of media

>>11782864
Wave 4 is gonna need someone with connections to OTV and they'll incline through a streamer partnership between OTV, Vshojo and NijiEN

>>11785429
NijiEN already sucked off OTV and it did nothing.

>>11785452
What do you mean? Suck them off again and again . Sykkuno would happily obliged.

>>11785510
you know those collabs cost them money, right?

>>11785381
>not tortilla or other ethnic food
BOOOOO!

>>11785529
What do you mean, it costs "money"? As far as I know, Sykkuno only collabed with Elira on a shitty kusoge and VShojo with Scarra played GMod with Lazulight. How would they lose money?

>>11784823
they will lose their gachis

>>11783183
This isn't Vnuma. Playboard, really!!? Why is it whenever I come back to the numbers thread everything seems to be disjointed. Where is the order? Where are the graphs? Where are the number analysers? I'm sorry to admit. but this place has sadly turned into a lesser shell of itself. What happened?

>>11785023
It's pretty obvious that Coco and the girl who lives with her are going to have to keep up their opsec a lot more than the average vtuber for reasons I'm sure you can guess

>>11785595
The other way around. OTV charges for collabs with literal whos. NijiEN cant go spamming those.

>>11785650
>playboard
maybe you should have stayed out

>>11785705
I wonder if Sykkuno would pay to collab with Gura if the option was there.

>>11783183
>>63,203: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
The rise of Nijisanji AKA ChadSanji. Suisei Solo live MOGGED. Pathetic copy-and-paste minecraft streams MOGGED.

>>11785705
Wait, they charge them? This is a first for me kek.

>>11785803
how about we compare nijisanji solo lives
what are the numbers for those

>>11785803
>The rise of Nijisanji AKA ManSanji AKA ManjiSanji AKA TouristSanji AKA Chinksanji. Suisei Solo live MOGGED by male sausage fest. Pathetic copy-and-paste minecraft streams MOGGED by male sausage fest
Fixed it for you.

>>11785747
Ignore the shizo. They show up once in a while with their lazy copypastas.

>>11785078
>already collabed
Past tense. Wave 4 will be different because they'll be collabing with them on on a semi-regular basis because that's what the general niji audience expect from niji livers. Shipping between the girls and boys will inevitably happen and that'll alienate hardcore gachikois, and as we know gachikois bring the big bucks.

Seriously...

>>11786426
how long it takes to beat the game? is it actually that long?

>4 streams
>4 POVs
>UNO
Why do they need to even do this

>>11786453
8 hours for a normal playthrough

>>11786453
If you know what you're doing, it can be done in 4-6 hours.
If you don't know what you're doing, or if you just plain suck, it will take significantly longer

>>11786565
So their gachis donate to their channel.

>>11786565
>cutthroat org where everyone is cannibalizing each other's viewers
Idk, why would they be streaming their pov instead of just ceding all the viewers and money to their competition? I can't think of one reason.

>>11786591
Isn't she already familiar with Metroid? She beat Super Metroid, right?
How is it taking her so long to beat this?

>>11786565
>5k watching.
Flare please, just play Minecraft...

>>11786632
Well, that's a shame. Wave 3 is already a problem from the get-go. UNO is okay to stream from one POV. There's really no need to have different POVs when the rounds aren't that long.

>>11786565
kek, WTF? ARE THEY LEGIT RETARDED?
And I don't mean
>Cute Nene ditsy retarded
I actually mean
>FULL BLOWN FIST OWN BUTT, SCOOP A FISTFUL OF POOP, SNIFF IT DEEPLY AND THEN EAT IT
retarded

FUCKING ROBOCO usually fetches 20k on it because Uno is a very funny game for collabs. WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY SPLITTING IT? IT'S A ONE FUCKING POV GAME
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/9XFKINdb7Kw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XFKINdb7Kw

No, really, WHERE IS MANAGEMENT? I WANT TO SPEAK WITH MANAGEMENT, KAREN MODE!

>>11786874
I always like how they act like chuunis during their UNO collabs. It’s a lot of fun.

>>11786426
stream ended, did she win at least?

>>11786874
Their management was fine with them doing watchalongs on debut week, having donation readings as the literally first stream they do post intro, and other bullshit like that. What makes you think they have any idea how to run a branch?

>>11786874
letting them stream on multiple povs allows them to gain a little bit of money more, in total

>>11787272
>MONEY

>>11787272
You know what would let them earn even more money
>doing it four times, once a week, in each of their channels, with the combined views of all four, a fast chat and 4x the potential donors

>>11786565
>Millie
>Spanish joke
>Reimu missed this

Also, the titles for the other 3. It's too generic.

>>11786565
either they are retarded or their managers are retarded, or maybe both

>>11786632
>>11786874
>>11786565

Seeing people freak out over the idea of competition in a numberfag thread is actually pretty pathetic.

>>11787480
Reimu has a sack of potatoes as a personality. It's no wonder she missed it.

>>11787572
Got one of the nijiEN member here kek. Which are you?

>freak out
No one's freaking out. From a numberfag perspective, it's counterproductive to do 4 POVs for a UNO stream.

>>11784497
What do they do make noise like ice cream trucks but it's a political thing? Just seems fucking weird.

>>11787572
They’re competing to see who gets the lowest number?

>>11787788
They essentially drive around in vans with loudspeakers attached to them that say "Vote for so and so, the candidate for the district of such and such because he will implement x and y policies." its basically just a massive awareness campaign

>>11786565
What's the view order gonna be, say, 30 minutes into the collab?

>>11787710
From a numberfag perspective a 4 pov from a fairly popular game with no clear skill bias is pretty useful in judging how well the four stack up to each other.

But I don't expect you to understand. You're probably here to treat this as another split thread where you can circlejerk about how why
>Console Bad

>>11787788
Taiwanese here, but how Japanese run the campaign is like us. You earn a small truck, standing on top, and circle around your election area with a big mic yelling your slogan or something, we called it "begging for votes on street"(掃街拜票)

>>11787940
None of them getting pass ~800. If they do, 1k at max.

>>11787962
>is pretty useful in judging how well the four stack up to each other.
In the same way a no holds barred four way fight to submission would determine who is the strongest in a dojo but not even Cobra Kai is this dumb: in the end you would get four of your fighters injured for no reason

>>11787788
Japan is a pretty politically apathetic country besides the old people.
They’re more or less begging for votes.

Is deltarune the debuffiest game of this season?
>DISCUSS

>>11788349
1:16 is really short stream, did she have tech problems or something?

>>11788181
Is it really gonna kill them to get 700 instead of 1.2k? X4 you get slightly more overall ad rev + people can SC on all 4 channels. Holo, Vshoujo, and Niji JP don't bother because they don't care about some chump change but Gen 3 are all poor ESLs and need the extra cash to get their Niji career started.

>same time
Who's going to win?

>>11788916
Faunacraft

Off to a great start already

>>11788880
>Is it really gonna kill them to get 700 instead of 1.2k?
Didn't Selen more than proved that you can actually funnel even the few viewers (and gachis) from their whole branch if they stream long enough and get enough guests?

>>11789235
That helps nobody but Selen though. Do you think these girls are going to prioritize muh 7k one stream ccv or their own growth?

>>11788916
Fauna
Ina will get 5k-6k since talos is one of those games.
Kiara is WAAAAAYY out of her usual slot to start a stream. she will get her usual 2.5k

>>11789235
>wave 3 combined is 2.2K
jesas

>>11789285
Rotate collab host around. People are a lot more likely to click into a 7k+ stream than a 1.2k one.

>>11789285
>That helps nobody but Selen though.
My whole point is that if these four girls here >>11789235 did like Roboco here >>11786874 whoever got to host would benefit a whole lot more than they splitting the thing four ways.

Then they could simply take turns hosting it and even make it a regular thing. It's fucking "box pushing 101" and the whore reason SENPAITACHI, SMOK, Bakatare and other impromptu groups even exist on Hololive.

>>11789171
>>11789352
Well of course Fauna is gonna win with minecraft, tho she did bleed some viewers. Ina vs Kiara with debuff games is more interesting tho.

>>11789462
kek at F A M S getting world filtered

>>11789359
it's pretty hilarious how badly they are doing on debut month. the lowest median views for debut month for a niji en so far is finana at 1.7k. this was supposed to be their "golden" generation with top indies with amazing singing voices and so on.

>>11789359
Not even their combined views can beat Yorumi and it's 5 AM in Japan.

>>11789782
Well they're beating that nazi guy so there's that. Small victories.

>>11789911
Losing to Hajime should warrant graduation.
He's the most hated Niji.

>>11789967
NijiKR don't look

>>11789235
And this image is now a bait thread

>>11789782
at least their combined now are more than kiara.
But yeah just choose a host next time

>>11789782
>enna the first to satrt by one minute
>also the one with most view
interesting

Are more than half of Ina's viewers brainlets?
To think I'm more supportive for her than her actual fans is pretty sad.

>>11789782
>they haven't even started playing yet
>actually it looks like they didn't test beforehand and ran into technical issues and can't play it
lmao did they pick up these girls off the streetside

>>11791184
>actually it looks like they didn't test beforehand and ran into technical issues and can't play it
HAHAHAHAHA, no kidding

inafag...this is so sad...

>>11791184
I refuse to believe this is the best that Anycolor could get in the EN vtuber scene. This is probably the result of heavy handed nepotism.

>>11791184
Scratch that. After 50 something minutes, they have finally figured out how to add friends on steam and then play Uno together.

Is it just the time of day or something? Feels like barely anyone's watching anyone.

>>11789967
Why's that? Never even heard of him.

>>11791427
Look at the other waves. Finana? Petra? Rosemi? The bar ain't exactly high and there's 0 evidence any decent sized vtubers are auditioning.

>>11791501
Nips hate him for unashamedly actively trying to leech off more popular talents (most notably Mito).
Also he's boring as hell apparently.

>>11791470
Uno is kind of a bitch, last time Holo EN played it they all had to redownload it or something, Kiara said she bought it like 3 different times. Still I'm sure chat enjoyed doing the "you have Uno!" bit for an hour.

>>11791588
Funny thing is, the latest wave's numbers are like half the numbers of the previous 2. If any decent indie or even low tier corpo like Prism was looking at Niji EN, they're likely thinking thrice now. Just wait for the next Holo/VShojo auditions.

>>11791427
>This is probably the result of heavy handed nepotism.
It's the exact opposite of "nepotism". People in this board, for some retarded reason, call
>having a referral
which is standard in most high skilled professions, "nepotism":

Tech industry is based on referrals, financial industry is based on referral, pretty much every high skilled industry has hirings based on referral.
Only retards would hire someone off the streets based on an interview instead of actually asking people already working under you to recommend people they know and trust

>>11791501
He proclaimed that Mito is better than kizuna Ai back in the day.
Nowadays hating him is just a meme though, and also he's sort of defined his entire streaming persona around that

>>11791683
Bae getting into Gen 2 probably gave a lot of people hope. No connections, no numbers, no real standout talent, only thing slightly notable about her is fairly good Japanese. If she can make it why not someone else from one of the small companies next time?

>>11791817
Forget Baelz, Ame was basically a random small time Twitch streamer without any particular standout talent on the level of Mori's music, Ina's art, or even Kiara's language proficiency, and she was part of Myth.

>>11792015
Ame was picked up for a very specific reason and had a really long streaming record. She's still the "lucky" one from EN1 but not so much everyone could convinced themselves they could do the same thing. Bae doesn't really fill any niche, other than maybe her streaming hours, which anyone can do if they are willing to. She's a pure luxury hire on Cover's part, just someone who did good in the auditions and got picked up because they liked her.

>>11792015
>was

>>11791760
>He proclaimed that Mito is better than kizuna Ai back in the day
They hated him because he told them the truth

What happened here?

>>11791817
>>11792015
I think those 2 (especially Bae) getting in keeps the hope of 2views being able to join Hololive going. Bae was a literal 2view and she got in. Honestly, she reminds me of Shuba for some reason. Regardless, with NijiEN proving that they're not the golden ticket that Hololive or even VShoujo is, I doubt any of the top tier indies will even bother applying which just opens the door for even more of Pomu and Elira's circle of friends to join. I'm not against referrals but getting your talent from the same small circle of Indies ain't gonna cut it.

>>11792624
Korea's first national rocket or something along those lines. It wasn't just another launch, it was a big deal.

>>11792881
Which Korea?

>Fauna minecraft - main server, just writing a peace treaty for Kronii - 10k live, falls when ina starts, but grows back to 10k live
- Fauna minecraft - same stream, but she changed into speedrun now - 7.5k live
quick proof that it is the storyline and not minecraft itself what gives them the buff

>>11793523
You're not wrong, but this is also her 4th MC speedrun stream so there's not much novelty left.
It's mostly a comfy zatsudan + watching Fauna eventually fail stream.

I'm more surprised Kiara and Ina didn't get any boost from those 2k leaving. Ina's is understandable, but Warioware is easy enough to catch up on even if you're late to the stream.

Has anyone opened the Ethyria Uno stream?
It looks like they're playing it on tabletop simulator instead of the Uno game that most Holos play.
It's a pretty awful viewing experience so the low numbers aren't that surprising.

>>11793635
>Kiara and Ina didn't get any boost from those 2k leaving
im not sure what you mean by this, there is no way of seeing a boost since they just started their streams by then, overlapping with Fauna who started 1hr earlier

>>11793635
>You're not wrong, but this is also her 4th MC speedrun stream so there's not much novelty left.
She'll go up after finally beating it.

>>11793842
3400~ people watching Ethyria + Finana.
Don't the other waves get ~5k when they do a full collab.

>>11793842
>It looks like they're playing it on tabletop simulator
Yeah, WTF is that “flipping the table” animation anyway? It was fun the first 6 times or so but then it got tiresome

>>11793967
>after beating it
more likely to die randomly to some creeper or other mob

>>11791588
We don't know that for sure but if /aud/ and /asp/ are anything to go by then yes, many people applied.

HoloEN2 had a 1:1200 acceptance:rejection ratio, for reference.

>SHOT

>>11794963
>CHASER
They all actually reclined as the game progressed

>>11794963
The four of them together peaked at 3.8k? While Kiara alone only peaked at 3k?
Oh no Holobros we got too cocky! If you add the eythria together they beat Kiara oh no!!!

>>11793523
Solo server minecraft or creative mode or whatever always gets lower numbers. It's still a buff just not as big as the share-world one of playing on the official server or the even bigger buff of playing with other Holos.

>>11794831
According to most people at the time NijiEN auditions ended up with 6 members out of 12.000+ applications.
Since it came at the perfect time for the big Vtuber rush.

NijiEN is a MacGuffin, the reason people were bringing them up was to piss holofags off. No reason to kick midgets while they're down over someone who just used them to piss you guys off.

>>11794831
Isn't the 1:1200 is JP2 according to Subaru?

>>11794831
I'm sure many people applied, just not sure anyone with a decent sized audience or any real level of prior success did.

>>11795019
Interesting that bird is the biggest one. I wouldn't have called that.

>>11795182
No one with a brain is actually kicking them down, it's just tribalists trying to bait each other.

Even if it's their first week, everyone in Wave 3 is getting 3-10 times more viewers than they had in their best month as indies, they're all feeling really good about these numbers, even if they split the revenue with AnyColor.

>>11785381
MF, she didn't even interact with other members much during last 6 month outside of MEME review and graduation month. you can watch her regular solo streams every day right now (she even has live2d), so what the fucking difference? or you just missing redditors jokes so much?

>>11795380
It's a meme or something the guy posts it like every other thread.

>>11795150
If I was a NijiEN hopeful I'd probably be seething since it was just a group of friends among the top indies that got in.

>>11794963
>UNO with 4 povs

>>11795520
>seething since it was just a group of friends
nah, vtweeters to busy shiting on "REAL black corp". just bunch of fucking tourists and clout chasers screaming into a void

>>11795520
Except for Finana, Petra, Nina, Selen, whatever the ghost girl's name is. There's more than enough Niji spots to go around, I doubt they slow down on waves anytime soon.

>>11795520
Those girls are breathing sighs of relief once they see these dumpster tier numbers. They can wait for the next VShojo/Holo auditions now and truly get a chance to make it.

>>11795356
>they're all feeling really good about these numbers
Eh maybe. There are doing better than there were but it has to be impossible to not look across the road and at least day dream, what if I got picked up by Hololive? Sana literally actively filters her audience and takes 2 weeks off and will come back to enough superchats to make a tomb for her dog made out of solid gold

>>11794831
>>11795150
people just applied to both

>>11795891
No shit, anyone not retarded applied to both.

That being said I don't think Mori, Ina, Kiara, Sana, Kronii, or Mumei could have made it into NijiEN.

I don't think any of NijiEN could have made it into hololive.

>>11795356
>they're all feeling really good about these numbers
not sure about this1.

>>11795999
millie was already screeching about overlaps, lmao
she's a huge numberfag

>>11796034
At least she is the type to keep things to herself and isn't a big menhera drama peddler.

With a bigger name like VOM's Ryugon Daimonji showing up, Kson's morning show will probably get a 2nd wind for the next episode, people now also excited to guess the next "mild celebrity" guest.

>>11796069
PPFFFT

>>11795979
Any of those people could have made it into Niji EN. They took Finana who's only credentials were tweeting and appealing as a guest in like 2 streams. Pomu or Elira could have made it into Gen 2 over Bae. Not saying they definitively would have, just that it would have been a real tough choice between them.

>>11796082
Is she actually relying on VOMS for views?

>>11795979
i see where you going with Mori, Sana, Kronii and even Ina. Kiara just simply will not apply.
But Mumei??

>>11796082
Maybe if she gets Pikamee, a big JP vtuber, a Vshoujo, or a Niji EN instead of this chump, then yeah.

>>11796190
Nijisanji doesn't hire menheras

>>11796188
>yadda yadda bait yadda yadda
no, she's calling a different vtuber every morning, building the "kson gang" she talked about on Oct 1st.
So far every one of the vtubers she's called has seen a sub and viewer boost, as much as Susan's new sub culling allowed.

>>11796034
to be honest you genuinely grow to love numberfag-chubas, they work the hardest and bring numbers 1 way or another.

>>11796269
Eh I thought Kson gang was like an actual vtuber group?

>>11796235
is this supposed to be a joke?

>>11796228
Random 1 off unexpected collabs don't generate big numbers unannounced.
On the other hand, the YT algorithm loves a building, consistently uploaded series, and this is developing properly.

>>11796311
Or give up, stream JRPGs every day, and marry their cats.

>>11796235
???
are you sure about that?

>>11796082
>Ryugon Daimonji
but his number isnt that bad to be fair. he gets like ~400-500 just like blue( girl who is really talented btw)

>>11796387
>they work the hardest and bring numbers 1 way or another.

>>11796311
Selen is big dicking her out of existence without being a number nigger.

3 of them going to superchat reading combined have half of Kiara’s SC reading

>>11796172
None of HoloEN were friends with Nova/Mint so they wouldn't get in. NijiEN looks for different things than HoloEN. NijiEN looks for good earners that get along but have a solid presence in their previous life, HoloEN looks for whatever their voodoo witchdoctors say will bring the rains.

>>11796599
true she is Really hardworking dragon

>>11792957
the one with actual rocketry

>>11796717
in term of ccv?

>>11796763
>HoloEN looks for whatever their voodoo witchdoctors say will bring the rains.
to be honest i still do not understand why they picked Ame (im not saying she is "bad" or somthing)

>>11796872
Ame had some unique content compared to your standard vtuber. She was also a 2 view streamer for years which shows she had some determination/love of streaming.
She also had experience in 3D/VR stuff.

>>11796763
> NijiEN looks for good earners
Once the new waves bring down their CCV to 200, they'll start advertising discord dates.

>>11796269
here you go, some dead subs, courtesy of the dead subs queen

>>11797273
She was arguably also the biggest holofan coming in. Though Ina might have a case there too. It’s obviously not a requirement but I bet it helps. Actually. Have any ENs mentioned they followed any Nijis in character? JP has no qualms saying about it obviously.

>>11797388
Ina would probably be the only one who knew they existed. She said Pikamee was her oshi.
I think Kiara mentioned watching Pomu but that's about it.

>>11797273
>which shows she had some determination/love of streaming.
ironic

>>11797388
Plenty of NijiENs have said they like X and Y but I think a handful are phoning it in. Wave 3 has at least 2 people into Nijisanji, wave 2 has one, and the first wave has 2. Council only has two holofans for reference, Fauna and Bae. Mumei twitter liked about anything in the EN sphere and even liked startup company's shit. Sana and IRyS are people with friends in hololive. Kronii doesn't really know what a hololive is.

>>11797290
>discord date with Selen
LETS FUCKING GO!
but to be Serious Rosemi can do this shit for real

HoloEN SC
Niji EN:
Reimu: $121
Enna: $150
Millie: $61
Nina: $748

>>11797388
>She was arguably also the biggest holofan

>>11797698
>Nina: $748
This is very good considering her viewers. She does well for herself. She gets a +1 in my book.

>>11797698
>people would rather throw money to the cunt playing a hag because mom issues and jojoshit over her actually talented genmates

>>11797719
>>11797388
>>11797719
I just recalled something form one of myths first collabs. There was a quration about how many members were on hololove.
I tecall the number ame gave was not only the correct one but it included both the id, homos and chinese branch in it.

>>11797816
Hey, she was right.
People eat up the mommy shit up.

>>11797816
You make it or you break it. Ironic considering millie does asmr

>>11797698
holoEN
Kiara 924,28$
Fauna 896,35$
Ina 355,13$
NijiEN
Reimu: $121
Enna: $150
Millie: $61
Nina: $748

>>11797838
pretty, cooll, but whole Kureiji family are simps so..

ITT: anons taking /vt/ memes and shitposts as truth

>>11797698
>Fauna is going to be top SC earner! She's le green Lamy!
>mogged by Pomu and Selen without even accounting for streamlabs donations
Kek

>>11797855
she knows teh rules and so do we

>>11797980
she could beat ill girl otherwise people would cancel her

>>11797980
she couldnt beat ill girl otherwise people would cancel her

>>11797980
Fauna has a lot of debuffs
>bad, really forced voice
>not good at ASMR
>0 gachikoi and will never get any

>>11797980
Hiw many streams each?

>>11798239
It's mostly that she keeps Superchats disabled during SC reading, until she's done with what was sent before the stream.
Kills the momentum.

fauna disables superchats half of time

>>11798239
Why did they hire Fauna?

>>11788349
Is she beating Niji Wave 3 average CCV despite being ID and playing the debuffiest game possible? Sasuga Ollie.

>>11798309
>keeps Superchats disabled during SC reading
why are those bitches so stupid?

>>11798309
>>11798346
I blame ame

>>11798348
mumei*

>>11798305
Pomu: 8
Selen: 6
Fauna: 5

>>11797980
Fauna is actually at $5,101 right now. Playboard is still tallying up her current stream.

>>11798346
And? Not my problem. You either get numbers or you don't. If she doesn't want numbers she will be treated as the non-factor she is.

So what happened to endengumi?
It looked so good for them unlike council at debut but is council the one eding up being better.
What does jops want now on a streamer?

looks like the SEAniggers woke up early today, Jesus Christ.

>>11798486
Lain: 1.3k CCV and $86k in SCs
Oliver: 1.7k CCV and $98k in SCs
Axia: 2.9k in CCV and $95k in SCs
Lauren: 3.1k CCV and an eyepopping $220k in SCs
Leos: 3.5k in CCV and $127k in SCs

Looks like they're doing fine to me.

>>11798719
>the sole female member at the bottom of every metric
sasuga manjisanji

>>11798719
What's their SC so far this month?

>>11798719
>looks like they're doing fine to me

>>11798719
That's the total SC so far

>>11796872
Long time content creator > Is probably dedicated to her craft.

Twitch streamer> Probably to try and appeal to Twitch audience

Also, she's La Creatividad

>>11798719
Those are like, mildly higher than Niji EN numbers. Can Niji not create stars anymore?

>>11798760
Women are just that much worse. Is it really that surprising?
I mean, let Roberu loose and he'd absolutely dominate HoloPro in every possible metric.

>>11798834
Those SCs bro.

>3.5k is bad
It isn't. It just maintains the average. These are stable numbers and didn't eat into anyone else.

>>11798825
I'm not bored enough to do everyone.
Lain has gotten $4,673 in SCs this month out of 16 monetized streams.
Lauren has $15,626 in 15 monetized streams.

>>11798719
>eye popping
Lol. Please

>>11796172
Wasn't Finance a self proclaimed "HololiveEN finalist"? Pretty sure Anykara saw that and went," if she's good enough for Cover, she's good enough for us"

>>11798719
Those aren’t even Kiara numbers. Actually Kiara gets above average super chats but those aren’t even close to her midget (for Myth) ccv. Is this the bar for success in Niji now?

>>11798483
>Pomu: 8
>Selen: 6
>Fauna: 5
Straight up lying to make your whore look better I see. She has 7 in the same timespan and Pomu also 7. You have to also take into account that most of her streams were solo and Pomu's were collabs. Pomu clearly gets more than her solo, without even adding up streamlabs which is a significant amount.

>>11798719
>an eyepopping
nijibros...

>>11799046
I take that back, I am bored enough to do the others
Axia: $6,714 in 16 streams
Leos: $15,871 in 15 streams
Oliver: $14,211 in 10 streams

Superchat - October
Leos
>$ 15,869
Axia
>$ 6,715
Oliver
>$ 14,211
Lain
>$ 6,336
Lauren
>$ 15,626

why are nijiniggers so desperate right now? did something not go their way again, and thus the need to spam this thread with their cope? Some brand new gen UNO collab, perhaps?

>>11799198
Still 6 monetized streams vs 8 in a span of the week between 10/14 to 10/21.

>your whore
Fuck off, I hate Fauna. She's trash and by far the worst member in council.

Oh no no, da-daisenpai...

>>11799437
They're probably coping with the fact that Cover could pick up a random crack addicted hooker on the side of the street, slap a Hololive EN brand on her, and that girl would do better than any new hire Niji could do. In any branch.

>>11799654
who scheduled it first?

>>11799475
Where are you seeing 8 in my picture? Can you not count? That's 7. The Mario video is a clip, dumbass.

>>11796436
Can you circle the menheras for me?

>>11799654
nice, shame for Moona, she's the least to overlap during their senpai big day, this is because that dumb alien and treerat

>>11799437
kuzuha can't get it up

>>11799728
You're kinda stupid bro.

I thought about the comparison of Umisea to the new manjisanji group, why is Anycolor going so hard on them?
>a 3D show a week
>several social medias
>upcoming music & branding
Are they scared they're going to lose relevancy so they're shoving the guys in everyone's faces?

>>11799926
>Pomu makes $785 per stream
>Fauna makes $865 per stream
Eh, it's splitting hairs at this point. The top of NijiEN is on par with the bottom of HoloEN in SCs.

>>11783183
So what's this in #1? Some sort of new Nijisanji group?

>>11799926
That $17 number isn't showing up anywhere in her videos. Clearly not counting it right.

>>11783183
>7 holo
>3 indie
>2 niji
>1 noripro

7-6 is pretty even and getting a gold mean Nijisanji won the day.

>>11797980
This is still missing a chunk of SCs from her monetization stream though no? We know its missing from Hololyzer too (not that that doesn't still put her behind)

>>11799875
The fuck you're talking about?
Even a 100000 year old grandpa would get it up for Rindou.

>>11799805
People aren’t that petty you know

>>11800270
We're using the exact same website, not my problem if they are using different variables for each tab. I am using the same metrics for both people. Pomu does well for herself and earns on par with a HoloEN member. That is a win in my book.

Nijisanji EN - October
>$ 91,850


*********

Wave 1
>$ 45,090

Elira
>$ 23,719
Pomu
>$ 14,793
Finana
>$ 6,578


*********

Wave 2
>$ 24,388

Salen
>$ 13,133
Rosemi
>$ 5,823
Petra
>$ 5,432


*********

Wave 3
>$ 22,372

Nina
$ 7,562
Millie
>$ 5,842
Enna
>$ 5,622
Reimu
>$ 3,346

>>11800276
rumao rumao

>>11799437
It reminds of the guy who used to compare Pomu to IRyS and then when IRyS raced past Pomu in every metric he started comparing Lazu Light as a whole to her and argued some voicepacks was worth more than an EP that charted in 20+ countries.

Hololive EN - October
>$ 174,456

*********

Myth
>$ 90,561

Gura
>$ 29,164
Mori
>$ 28,956
Kiara
>$ 19,267
Ina
>$ 6,881
Ame
>$ 6,293

*********

Project Hope

IRyS
>$ 23952

*********

Council
>$ 59,943

Kronii
>$ 16,747
Sana
>$ 13,369
Fauna
>$ 11,241
Baelz
>$ 10,455
Mumei
>$ 8,131

>>11792542
Mito couldn't hold Ai's jock.

>11800276
>anyone not Hololive is now Nijisanji

>>11801390
It's their new cope.

>>11800797
>>11800875
>HoloEN has 10 times more viewers than NijiEN but not even double the SC
>this doesn't even include streamlabs and voicepack sales
It's so odd seeing the reverse happen here considering holoJP girls get way more SC than NijiJP girls.

>>11800791
lmao, the absolute state of elira

>>11801507
>streamlabs
>voicepacks
Just because SC is your midget's main income doesn't mean it's theirs.
And it would be stupid to compare "merch" sales, stop embarrassing yourself.

>>11801507
Pomu nendo where?

>>11801507
SC doesn't always scale linearly with viewers, but you know what usually does?
Memberships, ad revenue, sponsorship requests etc. Shit we can't fucking see so we can't reasonably numberfag.
NijiEN is seen as 'hololite' and in that sense, they did eat a chunk out of even HoloMyth's SC earnings, if what I saw comparing month-to-month SC earnings of before and after Lazulight debuted. EN just doesn't have as big of an SC culture as JP does though there's still a good amount to be made (See Mori, Kiara).

>>11800791
>Only 3k for one of Ame's buff games
Damn she fell off a cliff.

>>11801604
b-but she did good sc this month, nevermind that she had her birthday celebration this month

>>11800791
>>11801737
too bad you didnt take the screen on the first 10 minutes, it would have made for a better bait

>>11801882
>Still only 4k
Yea that's pathetic for Ame, she just came back and people loved her previous Outer Wild's stream.

A Summer Day with LazuLight | NIJIScenario (NIJISANJI EN VTuber Anime)
10-15 : 27641 Views Gained
10-16 : 3431 Views Gained
10-17 : 1335 Views Gained
10-18 : 1035 Views Gained
10-19 : 677 Views Gained

>>11801882
>No schedule
>Announce the stream only on Twitter an hour or so before the stream starts
>unstable streaming times so no-one really knows when the FUCK you actually stream
Fuck you ame, do you hate numbers or something?! Would it hurt you to have some goddamn CONSISTENCY!?

>>11801952
>and people loved her previous Outer Wild's stream
do you not know what game youre talking about?

>>11801957
They should put up ads to boost their views so this looks like less of a failure, and traumatize anyone who watched it so they would never touch Nijisanji ever again

>>11801957
That fell off a cliff. Good thing it is only some flavor to the main channel and not a real project.

>>11802109
The thought of them running an ad for this aimed at Hololive fans is pretty funny.

>>11801507
HoloJP girls get 3-4 times as much as Niji girls do, on average.

>>11801996
>>No schedule
>>Announce the stream only on Twitter an hour or so before the stream starts
>>unstable streaming times so no-one really knows when the FUCK you actually stream
You'll get used to it
t. Omaruza

>>11801507
dont use Selen, you fag

>>11791746
>Only retards would hire someone off the streets based on an interview instead of actually asking people already working under you to recommend people they know and trust

Pre-2020 Holo says hi

Views + Subscribers (Last 30 days)

Niji EN
> 9,301,591 / 342,9k

Selen
> 1,909,000 / 21k
Elira
> 1,337,000 / 15k
Rosemi
> 1,185,000 / 15k
Pomu
> 1,005,000 / 11k
Millie
> 784,758 / 68,6k
Finana
> 783,563 / 15k
Petra
> 705,922 / 16k
Nina
>679,148 / 16k
Nina
> 679,148 / 66,5k
Enna
> 462,015 / 57,6k
Reimu
> 450,185 / 57,2k

>sabotages herself even more by continuing to collab with shart
What the fuck is she doing? She honestly deserves to recline into 2view territory. Why isn't the Niji management blocking her from doing this?

Views + Subscribers (Last 30 days)

HoloEN
> 62,567,420 / 620k

Gura
> 14,986,525 / 110k
Mori
> 14,703,097 / 40k
Ina
> 5,015,002 / 30k
Kiara
> 5,001,908 / 30k
>Baelz
> 4,155,723 / 59k
Kronii
> 3,959,086 / 110k
IRyS
> 3,793,980 / 34k
Fauna
> 3,524,458 / 54k
Ame
> 3,347,505 / 40k
Mumei
> 2,873,068 / 80k
Sana
>1,207,068 / 33k

>>11802517
Flare even said she'd collab with Lain but Lain ignores her...

>>11802498
>Nina
>Nina
>>11802517
Nijisanji's freedom. I thought you fags love to boast about it.

>>11802562
really? any clip on that?

>>11802612
I'm lying. They follow each other on twitter but I don't think Flare collabs with anyone outside of Hololive besides Patra.

>>11802562
Flare is doing this tonight.

>>11802606
Just ignore the one with 16k subs

>>11802659
>I'm lying.
Well, that was obvious. If Flare hasn't collabed with Ririmu, then why the fuck would she even entertain the thought of collabing with Lain?

>>11801957
>>11802117
They spent 5 months on this.

>>11802807
Ririmu's model is right in Flare's strikezone... Maybe she's jealous of her skin color.

Flare isn't a big enough name to want to collab with unless you're already her friend.

>>11802899
They didn't spend that much time on this. They took 5 months to release it. It probably only took a week of manhours.

>>11796763
>HoloEN looks for whatever their voodoo witchdoctors say will bring the rains.
I mean … Is working so far, so I trust the witchdoctors there

>>11787788
This is literally soapboxing. The difference is that in the west, we developed NIMBYism and enacted loads of "noise pollution" laws/ordinances to force people to shut the fuck up so that we can watch some whichever-brand-of football in peace.

>>11800875
>>11802552
Mori and Gura are about 1/3 of the all the SC and 1/2 of the views

Mori's revenue is probably close to gura despite her getting only 1/3 of Gura's median CCV

>>11800090
>Why is Anycolor going so hard on them?
Anycolor is getting desperate. Hololive is so far ahead of them at this point that I don't think anything would truly make a difference at this point.

Numbers in the Spanish Market. A lot of competition today, so numbers are a little lower than usual

Miu Hizuki takes the lead with a food stream. She is trying (and failing) to do a popular LatinAmerican dessert

Numbers in the Spanish Market. A lot of competition today, so numbers are a little lower than usual

Miu Hizuki takes the lead with a food stream. She is trying (and failing) to do a popular LatinAmerican dessert

>>11803415
Well it will make them incline for a while. Until Cover also get threatened and do something against it.
Win-win for everyone!! Tbh both Cover and Anycolor needs to step up their game if they want to remain relevant.

>>11790088
Read that thread. Shit was hilarious.

>>11799768
Wouldn't that be the boundary of the whole picture? They're all Japanese after all...

>>11796800
So the one with nukes?

Looks like they're doing an official cover of the Don Quijote theme on top of the big plushie merch push.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p7P9XRoeEo

>>11803382
Wouldn't say close if we take memberships into account. But then again, if we're talking all consistent revenue channels, Mori has her music streaming empire as well.
I wouldn't be surprised if Mori and Gura make the most money by a wide margin in all of HoloEN.

https://youtu.be/mfzo8NqHaYE
this Gura cover can potential reach 1 mil by the end of the year

>>11804734
Koreans love Hololive more than NijiKR wtf. Why is this?

>>11804822
Dunno about the rest, but Bora speaks in Japanese 90% of the time.
I wonder.

>>11804611
Nah music streaming pays like crap. All of Mori’s Spotify streams were worth around 120-150k. Obviously she has a lot of views too but Kiara has strong SC and I’d expect merch to correlate with SC income. There’s no doubt Gura and Mori are in the lead but I don’t think it’s a massive difference before #3 who’s almost certainly Kiara

>>11804851
But Hololive members barely speak Korean.

>>11804734
Fuck it. She should just do an official cover or pick another popular Kpop song to throw the KR crowd a bone. Keep a stranglehold on the audience and make sure Niji can’t make any progress

>>11804822
Vtubing in your native language is cringe.
Vtubing in a foreign language is cool/cute.
Nijisanji vtubers are generally streamers with an anime avatar while Hololive vtubers can give off the air of someone playing a character.

>>11800875
So, is there a solid explanation why the frontrunners are so far ahead in EN? With JP it's exceedingly obvious why certain members of Gen 3/Lamy/Kanata/Aqua are ahead, but what about EN? I assume Mori is mostly because people want to fund her music?

>>11792748
Vshojo isn't a golden ticket either, everyone who's successful in vshojo now was already successful before they got in. And the ones who aren't didn't see much of a boost from joining vshojo. Hololive is really the only organisation that can boost a two view like that, no other organisation has anywhere close to the same brand power

>>11805103
I think Veibae was really the only one who got a boost from joining Vshojo.

>>11805043
More stream hours, more talking streams, more SC readings = more SCs.
Unless you hate money like Ame and turn off SC half the time until chat begs you to turn it back on.
People can't donate if you don't stream and donate less during gameplay and collabs.

>>11804914
We will never know for sure since there are too many unknowns. Last thing I would say is that I'm confident Mori gets a very big cut of that $120-150k since she has full creative control over her songs instead of the usual youtube revenue channels which are split to Susan and Cover.
>>11805043
This >>11805177 but also paypigs. Mori and Kiara have the most paypigs, thus most SCs.

>>11805142
Listen, I dislike Veibae, but her incline really is down to her own hard work. She already had a following before joining Vshoujo, and now after joining it she's putting in a shit load of hours and built up her viewerbase.

>>11805142
Yeah, a boost of about 2k ish, she was already pulling 4-6k before joining vshojo, it's not like the brand boosted her that much.

>>11805103
Nijisanji boosted Edengumi massively compared to their former lives. Even Selejo had a big boost when they debuted last year.

>>11805177
>Unless you hate money like Ame and turn off SC half the time
Why bother reading SCs for hours and hours when instead you can leech off your friend's six figure gacha sponsorship

>>11806435
>Even Selejo

>>11806671
Chigusa was pulling triple digits at best when she was indie, now she's consistently four digits.

>>11806671
Anon is talking about getting better numbers than their past lives