/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>1178874
their best talents are in suisei, miko, marine, peko, and aqua.

>>1178874
Shouldn't the roles be reversed based on what happened? Also, stop being a veiled bug OP.

>>1178914
>Everything that even slightly criticizes Cover's awful management and treatment of their talents is the result of muh chink boogeyman
So this what holotard cope looks like

>>1179119
I actually don't understand wtf is going on. No one was this defensive over Cover when they did stupid shit before like make Chang one of Coco's mods.
Is this what happened to Niji to scatter them to the winds?

>Haachama goes to the holohouse to find comfort with Coco
>Coco welcomes her with open arms
>They both go to Coco's room to talk about what's been going on
>Haachama explains that she feels suffocated by Cover's restrictions and limits, that she feels she can't express herself anymore
>Coco nods in agreement
>"I can't even collab with the EN branch anymore! All because of that stupid Enma!" scream Haachama
>Coco nods
>"That stupid Enma, huh?"
>Coco brings Haachama in for a hug
>Haachama begins to sob
>Coco starts to squeeze harder
>Haachama's tears and sobs become heavier
>Coco puts her lips up to Haachama's ear
>"Haachama..."
>"Mmm?"
>"...I am Enma..."
>Shock hits Haachama just as she hears those words
>Then the sharp pain
>Then the wetness of something gushing from her abdomen
>Then the cold
>Finally, the darkness

>>1179119
Why didn't you acknowledge the first part of my post anon? Cover is awful but for not the reasons casuals like you think.
>>1179171
Because some anons actually looked into the NGA groups, instead of just eating whatever people post on here and youtube comments.

>>1179171
Antis and seaniggers see an opportunity to kick someone while they're down and take it. They're like chickens that way. Haachama did nothing wrong and anyone who says otherwise is trying to start shit.

>"they're kissing cover's asses"
>brings up shiturine man rrats that have been dead
yeah no, fuck off

FUCK COVER

>>1179363
>>Because some anons actually looked into the NGA groups, instead of just eating whatever people post on here and youtube comments.
Haachama's videos are literally gone you fucking idiot. She posted a statement outright saying that the thing she had planned was axed by management.
What more proof do you need? Do you think Chang hacked Haachama's account, too?

>>1178874
https://streamable.com/3ekrt5

>>1179451
>Kiss cover's ass by trying to make the verifiably true statement into some schizo bullshit involving something no one has heard of
Eat shit and fuck off.

>>1179271

>>1179513
I'm sorry, I'm not the one who keeps fucking bringing up pissshitman well long after /hlgg/ got bored of him ages ago

>>1178874
That's not Korone and Pekora.

>>1178874
Because Cover lost their biggest cash cow (China) because of those two.

>>1179119
>So this what holotard cope looks like
Cover being awful is basically a running joke on both /hlg/ and /hlgg/
I don't know what discord these fags came from but they're on full damage control

>>1179475
What does Coco have to do with that? With the image, I thought OP was still banging on about the Taiwan shit. Use a proper image next time. Also discuss it in the Haachama thread like everyone else is.

>>1179119
Let the Holotards cope lmao. They can't even graduate a member correctly.

>Tonight I will remind them
https://soundcloud.com/fuck-cover-ch/fuck-cover

>>1179614
Unironically r/Hololive lmao

>>1179119
sad true is both things actually are right, cover work damn outside scouting and the chinamen are autistic enough to making the boogeyman true

>>1179564
Take meds, schizo.

>>1179802
Except it isn't and it isn't just Chinks dumb Holotard

>>1179570
China was generously 10% of earnings

>>1179690
>What does Coco have to do with that?
You mean how Coco literally had one of the antis appointed as a mod because Cover can't get its shit together?
Take meds, schizo.

>>1179690
Most fans hate dramafags and their discussions in the individual threads, especially dumb people who went bluntly posting "So what's the rrat of 'X narrative'", they usualylly just got told to fuck off and have no choice but to make a thread to get attention

>>1179614
>What does Coco have to do with that?
I think it's false flagging. No one can be as fucking retarded as the copers in this thread. They are actively making Hololive look worse and they're doing it in broken english, to boot
What was that mantra? Infiltrate communities and spread disharmony? The one they posted on their communities? Being a unrelenting fanboy is just as bad as being an unrelenting anti.

>>1179570
>new streaming rules just before the entire fiasco
said cash cow would turn anemic anyways

>>1179847
And up to 60% of the audience prior to the yab and getting replaced by dumb EOP faggots.

>>1179863
Fuck off. Drama is part and parcel of being a VTuber fan. Can't take it? Support non-corporate indies

>>1179863
You're an idiot. This isn't a rrat; this is literally something Haachama herself made a statement about.
Most fans care about the girls, not the fucking corporate suits who run them. Seeing the corporate suits throw them under the bus should piss them off more than some manager looking bad.

>>1179838
read again you subhuman

>>1179859
What does Coco have to do with Haachama's videos being gone, you dumbass. Read the posts.
>>1179863
>Most fans hate dramafags and their discussions in the individual threads
Who cares, use the threads for their exact purpose.

>>1179863
I'm not the one betraying their talents for being creative, Cover is. Better yet, why even put up with it when her true potential as an indie or with VShojo or any other upcoming Western agency is holding her back?

>>1179924
>implying indie vtubers aren't free of dramas

>>1179990
No yabs and embarrassments. Do reps.

>>1179897
Ogey zhang.

>>1180075
It's true and you know it, mutt

>>1180119
I'm not an Amerishart, zhang.

>>1179962
>What does Coco have to do with Haachama's videos being gone, you dumbass. Read the posts.
The thread literally started with "Why does cover treat these two like shit?"

>>1179988
There are a ton of benefits to going indie. The biggest drawback however is Cover WILL NOT let her keep the Haachama/Akai Haato character.

I doubt she is leaving though unless things are worse behind the scenes then we know.

>>1180262
Oh there's a ton of untold yab that has probably happened behind the scenes. We're just waiting for our whistleblower frens at 2ch to expose and let us know more.

>IF YOU DON'T UNCONDITIONALLY DEFEND COVER NO MATTER WHAT YOU ARE ZHAAAAAAAAAAANG

>>1179475
Yeah, her edgy catalog has been removed. Rolled back to pretty much late January.

>>1180318
Cover shills gonna shill

>>1180178
Then I replied about it being NGA, then another anon replied that its actually about Haachama's vids being taken away, then I asked what Coco had to do with that. Do you follow anon? So what does Coco have to do with Haato's vids? I didn't ask what Coco has to do with the thread.

>>1179801
Is there a more pathetic fanboy-centric website than reddit? Literally Yagoo or Cover can do no wrong to them.

>>1180318
Blame Cocofags for making this a defence everyone goes for.

>>1180373
No lmao

>>1180392
There's a reason why we call her Reddit Dragon kek

>>1180361
>Then I replied about it being NGA
I don't know who that is.
The topic of the thread is "Why does Cover abuse their two best talents?"
Coco and Haato are two of their best talents.

>endless whining on this board about Cover when the talents themselves haven't said a thing
It's clear this is another wave of anti posting and it's sad that people are still falling for it.

>>1180542
You think the employees of a company are going to publicly attack their employer? What fantasy land do you live in?

>>1180324
>edge catalog
This is how we know you're baiting.
There's NOTHING edgy about it. Stop being such a pussy if a story of a split personality is 'edgy' for you.
>>AAAAAAA SHE SHOULD JUST PLAY APEX NO NO NO WAIT THAT'S TOO EDGY FOR ME, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Fuck off. She tried to do something clever and was punished for it by suits who don't do anything clever.

>>1180542
Lick that boot harder

>>1178874
you do realize that haato getting bapped was probably youtube getting pissy, right? as retarded as youtube's "community standards" are, they're still rules that people have to cooperate with.

>>1179395
>reee my oshi is perfect and flawless anyone who suggests she's not is a troll
this is why you believe whatever rrat you get fed.

>>1180542
>>endless whining on this board about Cover when the talents themselves
SHE
LITERALLY
RELEASED
A
STATEMENT
Can I just start posting wojaks at your stupid uneducated posts, now? You are clearly a low-IQ retard.

>>1180590
>there's nothing edgy about a story about chopping off your head and putting it on someone else's body
you have to be over 18 years of age to use 4chan, kiddo.

>>1180634
Why ask that question when Cover shills are the biggest wojak look-alikes on this entire website? Literally no worse than bronies. Holy fucking shit.

>>1179271
An rrat masterpiece.

>>1180613
>you do realize that haato getting bapped was probably youtube getting pissy, right?
How could an algorithm possibly tell between these videos and her normal videos? Reminder, all of them were monetized and used content made by her fans.
There are monetized videos on Youtube of people getting fucking impaled and breaking limbs, but you think Haachama's stuff is too 'edgy'?
I'm convinced all of the people trying to shit-catch for Cover are Zhangs trying to tear the community apart by defending an undefendable position. If you followed any of this at all, your head isn't jammed up your ass, and you don't have shit for brains; you would be on Haachama's side.

>>1180682
Like this, here. What the fuck is edgy about that? It's literally psychological, it wasn't real. The two share the same body.

>>1180682
>Over 18
>But "NO THE VIOLENCE IS TOO MUCH FOR ME"
You're literally a kid demanding the adults stoop to your level. Sorry your mom doesn't let you look at anything in the PG-13 section because you're 12.

>>1178874
I don't see Fubuki, Gura, Korone, Pekora, or Aqua there.

>>1179750
based

People don't even understand what they're arguing for or against anymore.

>>1180746
>Reminder, all of them were monetized and used content made by her fans.
rrat here, someone threatened them with legal trouble.

>>1179892
Its hard to get chinese money out of china in the first place

>>1180590
Wonder if this is the "Compliance Committee" at work?

>>1179719
Yeah bro! Show them how we graduated Roa and soon Gibara!

>not using your large vtuber platform to take a stand and call out western 'sjw' culture nonsense
>get shocked when your video project gets cancelled for being 'too edgy' aka being ableist

>>1180590
Yeah, no. It's actually edgy. That isn't mean denigrating it, btw, I enjoyed it, but it is what it is.

>>1180957
Listen.
I'm still going to watch Holos, unless something major changes or Fubuki (The canary in the coal mine, as it were) leaves, that's not going to change.

But anyone without the backbone to call out Cover when they make stupid fucking decisions must either be insanely dumb or intentionally trying to start shit.

So when I see people saying that a skit that isn't even on the same level of violence as The Shining is "too edgy" for them, I start to wonder if they actually believe that or aren't trying to start shit.

>>1181605
It's The Shining-lite. nothing Haachama shown would even get it above a PG-13 rating if it was in theatres. The 'decapitation' was literally just taking the head off of her 3D model with the cut tool in photoshop.

Are people just soft, now? Even as a teen I would go watch horror movies in unlicensed theatres. THAT was edgy. THIS is the lightest of psychological horror and people are acting like she performed an axe-murder on-screen.

Pizza Head skits in the 90's were more violent and gory than anything Haachama put out.

Maybe my standards are different, but I cannot see that as being edgy or remotely violent.

>>1181151
>rrat here, someone threatened them with legal trouble.
I doubt it. You can easily settle out of court by just giving money or letting them meet Haato.

>>1181888
Yeah, it's not "edgy or violent" for adults.

>>1181547
Maybe that's just it. SJW culture just made everything soft so something like Carlin's seven words is basically the same as the holocaust to some people.

>>1181990
I mean, look at the Marine thing. They're already on red-alert about it. What happened is someone used the art to get closer to her and they just shut it down.

>>1182012
It's not edgy or violent for children.
It's gumby levels of gore. Gumby was hardcore because people would fall apart and get torn to bits all of the time, because they were made out of clay.
This was shown to children.
Nothing Haachama did was even on that level.

Haachama will come back to Holoblive after the break like the little corporate cocksucking Japanese bitch that she is instead of doing the right thing abnd give YAGOO the finger and fuck off to do her own thing that she wanted, because Japanese are cowards

>>1182086
>It's not edgy or violent for children.
Yes it is.

>>1182012
Also when I said 'PG-13', I was serious. PG-13 means that 13 years olds can go see the movie. Nothing shown would get above PG-13 if it was in a movie.
Fuck, remember some of the shit that happened in disney cartoons we used to watch? THAT was PG.

This? Here? Children. In Theatres. Also waaaay worse than anything Haachama put out.

>>1182123
I don't think you get it anon.

In Japan there's two options: conform, or become a shut-in. You're not allowed to be a well-adjusted human being AND do your own thing.

>>1182086
>I was enjoying Haachama put on a comfy children's show.
Now THIS is insanity.

>>1182206
The context itself still matters. It's not a simply matter of going over a checklist.

>>1182186
No it's not, it's only to the kind of soccer mom that tried to make all of our media unfun.
see >>1182206

>>1182253
Nah, it was edgy, and if you didn't think it was, then why are you watching her lore. Shit was edgy as fuck.

>>1182086
Dude there was
>nudity and straight up suggested fucking/RAW fucking
>gore of decapitation and inards such as hearts
>cursing
>general horror

doi

>>1179271

>>1182322
He doesn't actually watch her.

>>1182239
>Now THIS is insanity.
It's actual insanity to think anything she put out is more "edgy" than a fucking cartoon you saw in the 90's. It's just your tastes are soft and you've become a soft person.

>The context itself still matters.
Do you want me to post all of the PG rated movies we saw as a kid?

>>1182283
I'm just going to start posting basedjacks if you seriously think that was edgy because I cannot picture you as being anything other than that.

>>1182322
>dude there was
>>nudity and straight up suggested fucking/RAW fucking
>getting electrocuted to where you could see her skeleton
>general horror
Ban Hercules from theatres now. I'm part of a church group and kids have the spines of pudding just like I do. That's too edgy for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>1182215
yea, pretty much
in other countries, this probably would be fine
but Japanese culture is super unfriendly to anything outside the norm

this isn't a problem with cover only, this is a general Japan problem

>>1182425
>I'm part of a church group
Explains why you're 100% incapable of understanding context and why it matters.

>>1182370
You don't watch her because you think she's too 'edgy'. I imagine you don't watch anything other than MLP and Steven Universe, and even then you're probably the kind of cuck that goes on /co/ to complain about them being too violent or mean spirited.

>>1182465
>T-THE CONTEXT
This movie >>1182206 is literally all of the souls of the people he had cursed coming back to suck him to hell.
This movie >>1182425 is the villain being struck with her own lightning bolt and turning to ash.

PG-13. Show it in schools.

Haachama is about a depressed schizo with two personalities.

TOO EDGY, BAAAAAAAAAAAAN. REMOVE IT F ROM YOUTUBE OHHHHHHH HOW DARE THEY SHOW THIS TO THE CHILLUNS
WON'T SOMEBODY

PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE
THINK OF THE CHILLUNS?

>>1182425
>Ban Hercules from theatres now
The fuck are you talking about? None of that was in Hercules other than the decapitation of literally monsters, and Herc didn't even kill the Hydra in the end if I remember right, just knocked it out

>>1180634
>>>1180542
>>>endless whining on this board about Cover when the talents themselves
>SHE
>LITERALLY
>RELEASED
>A
>STATEMENT
>Can I just start posting wojaks at your stupid uneducated posts, now? You are clearly a low-IQ retard.
They literally didn't

>>1182123
Poor bitch has the curse of being Japanese. If she were true HoloEN she'd stand right the fuck up for herself like what she could be to get our respect.

>>1182597
There's a report function for "extremely low quality".

>>1182370
>>1182322
>>1182012
>>1181605
>Won't somebody think of all the children that watch Haatochan?
Holy fucking
lol
Is this where we are? Where we gotta think about everything in the context of children who are going to watch a Vtuber?

holy shit

Better not watch Coco's streams. You might bust a vein in your head about her greeting everyone with 'motherfuckers'.

>>1179171
People are so paranoid about bugman ops that they see them everywhere

>>1182427
Fuck Japan nigga. I hope HoloEN pulls out and sees the hypocrisy of this rotten black company

>>1182623
>The fuck are you talking about? None of that was in Hercules
Quick question, where do you think that picture came from?

Pop quiz, where did this picture come from and what was the rating of the movie?

>>1182664
For the people calling Haachama's work 'too edgy'? That's some pretty low quality trolling.

>>1182668
I didn't say think of the children, but youtube as a platform/Cover has a company generally aims toward kids, and so they can/will get into trouble if the wrong content is shown to them. You can get federal trouble over that if kids watch something they "aren't supposed to". It's a matter of allowance, not morals. Stop strawmanning

>>1182597
>anon literally starts breaking down in real time on 4chan because he can't force people to agree with him
Yup, it's religious.

>>1182737
>Quick question, where do you think that picture came from?
Not Hercules? Are you retarded? Jesus fucking christ, stop replying to me you moron

>>1182739
>I didn't say think of the children, but youtube as a platform/Cover has a company generally aims toward kids
And we're done, we're done talking. You know nothing about this company. The target audience is in their 20's.

>>1182668
The rule existed before Haachama made her art. She knew it was against TOS from the beginning and got lucky for a long time.

>>1182806
Advertisers aim for kids or are you literally that goddamn ignorant

>>1182747
>N-no you're breaking down, I can't argue against you but you're religious!!!!!!! I swear!!!!!
It's not even that you disagree, it's that your conclusions are so fucking stupid that I don't believe that you think them either.
I think you're trolling.

>>1182791
It's literally from Hercules, look at who is being shocked. Holy fuck. You are actually both retarded and uncultured. Go into minecraft with a rope and enter the nether.
Stop replying to me you shithead. Especially when you don't even know what the fuck you're arguing about. You're objectively stupid.

>>1179119
Look NGA tread

Anon

>>1182811
Prove it. You're making up rules as they go and subjectively applying them because "MUH EDGE"
And as the other anon said, this isn't any worse than the disney movies we used to watch. You're just a weak kalemale.

>>1182960
>I think you're trolling.
I'm not the one ignoring the fact Haachama made edgy art and then started raging in all caps, THEN tried to make it all about your church going.

>>1182960
>It's literally from Hercules
This is Ursula from The Little Mermaid >>1182425

I didn't need to google this to know that but, here you go

>>1182791
>Not Hercules? Are you retarded?
It's from Sleeping Beauty, a movie from kids from like 70 years ago.
That's what he's trying to tell you.

>>1183085
>It's from Sleeping Beauty, a movie from kids from like 70 years ago.
I am aware Maleficent is the other thing but it's still not relevant literally whatsoever.

The maiming of humans and the maiming of monsters are naturally given different levels of consideration in media. Duh. What the fuck

>>1183027
>Prove a rule everyone cites constantly already and everyone already knows.
Nah.

>>1183041
>edgy art
Here we go again. You know if you repeat something that's incorrect over and over again, that doesn't make it correct right?
There's literally nothing edge about it but you're going to whine and whinge about shit that was considered tame even when we saw it. Shit we thought was for actual little children when we were kids.
God
Damn.
How are you so dumb? Why are you trying to make it about church going when you're literally like the fucking church going soccer moms who got everything we liked cancelled when we were a kid because they thought shows like transformers were too 'edgy', too?

>>1179395
Do not dare compare SEAnigger with Chinxs Anti

>>1183170
You're literally just making assumptions because people are telling you you're incorrect in other assumptions. Are you drooling on your keyboard, too?

>>1183151
> am aware Maleficent is the other thing but it's still not relevant literally whatsoever.
It seems pretty obvious what the point is. You're intentionally acting obtuse so you can pretend to not get a very simple point.

>>1183151
>but it's still not relevant literally whatsoever.
Yes, it is, because the rules were different then than now. For good reason.
>inb4 all caps demanding why and sperging out

>>1183170
>Because I say so!
You're gay. That's all there is to it. If you argue this, then you're just wrong.

>>1183257
you're literally making the assumption that it's edgy, probably because you don't actually watch Haachama or saw her videos before.
You're just bleating over and over again 'It's Edgy'. No, it's not edgy, you're just a soft idiot.
How many caretakers do you have to keep yourself in that bubble? Do you cry at Carebears, still?

>>1183288
>It seems pretty obvious what the point is
That you can kill monsters in media with no one batting an eye? Are you pretending that there's no difference? Do you believe there's no difference? In either case, then there's no point in arguing. You're simply incorrect.

>>1183304
>Yes, it is, because the rules were different then than now. For good reason.
>>inb4 all caps demanding why and sperging out
I'm not sperging at all? I don't even know what point you're trying to make.

>>1183390
>a soft idiot
What does that mean?

>>1183304
>Because I say so
I've literally been posting Disney movies, made for kids, that are ten times "edgier" and more violent than anything Haachama posted.
This isn't "because I say so", this is "Because you're a fucking limp-wristed, slack-jawed kalemale"
The evidence is obvious if you think this shit is 'edge'.

>>1183465
>continues to ignore context
That's like saying, "It's an innocent matter because there's just one panty shot," then you realize the entire movie was a panty shot. Context matters. You're just fishing for (You)s at this point.

>>1183404
>That you can kill monsters in media with no one batting an eye?
With a sword through their heart and it bleeding uncontrollably?
That's way worse than anything Haato posted.

I think that's the point he's tryin to make. Anyone saying Haato's videos were 'edgy' probably didn't see any of the shows that were made for kids when we were kids. Or at the very least are completely out of touch with what is actually considered edgy.

>>1183465
>ten times "edgier" and more violent than anything Haachama posted.
I can't, and you can't, post any Disney films with active decapitation if humans, sex, or opened chests displaying bleeding hearts.

You can't because nothing exists. Of course nothing exists, because why would it? It's for children.

>>1179570

>> Cash cow
>> 7% of income

Big market.....

>>1183571
It's a dragon you stupid faggot.


Kids slaughter animals in reality, hence why in media this is not seen as untoward generally. Some kids literally butcher animals as par for the course as they grow up on barns. The thing is, no kid living in a decent society grows up with the normalization of human violence/death

>>1183571
No it isn't, and if you think it is, then you've never seen the movie or Haato's content.

>>1183439
It means you probably think Spongebob would be too edgy for Youtube. You're arguing something is 'edgy', but you can't actually describe why it's edgy. Meanwhile actual movies made for children are head and shoulders above what Haachama did, but you ignore that.

>>1183559
>Context
See >>1182597
>This movie >>1182206 is literally all of the souls of the people he had cursed coming back to suck him to hell.
>This movie >>1182425 is the villain being struck with her own lightning bolt and turning to ash.
What fucking Context did Haachama do that puts either of those CHILD MOVIES to shame?

Go on, please, explain. Tell the class.

>>1179570
>biggest cash cow (China)
lol Zhangs believe this

>>1183728
>links back to sperge posts that are already BTFO
You're wrong. Simple as.

>>1183728
Nobody's ignoring anything, you're ignoring what people are telling you (like how human and monster violence are different). Are we done? I'm certainly done.

>>1183697
>It's a dragon you stupid faggot.
It's bleeding uncontrollably you moron.
Don't reply to me again if you're going to pretend to be obtuse any longer.

>>1183700
>No it isn't
That's the point, it's not. It's not edgy at all. You're overplaying something that wasn't remotely violent or scary, acting like someone who needs PG guidance to be on Youtube at all, for t he purposes of an internet argument so you can tear down on Haato.

That shit is cringe, bro. Stop posting cringe. Haachama is a great content creator and made a great thing that anyone can enjoy. You're tearing down on her because you don't seem to be able to grasp how nonviolent her videos really were.

>>1183822
>>It's a dragon you stupid faggot.
>It's bleeding uncontrollably you moron.
Ah, so you really do think the murder of a cow and the murder of a human are the same thing? Are you a furry or something? What a bitch

>>1183822
>Jack the Ripper content isn't edgy.
k kid

>>1181444
>Gibara
Huh ? what happened to Gibara?

>>1183801
>Go on, please, explain. Tell the class.
>I REFUSE THAT'S BLOWN OOOOOOOUT (by the way none of those posts addressed those examples)
Do you want preparation H for your ripped out asshole, anon?

>>1183802
>Nobody's ignoring anything
You're ignoring it RIGHT NOW, as in right at this moment. You're intentionally ignoring them.
And you bitch and whine that I'm ignoring people when you won't evne answer the simple question. What made Haachama's work edgier than anything we saw as kids?
>(like how human and monster violence are different).
Two of the posts are literally humans being mutilated. This is what I mean by ignoring. You're ignoring a simple fact.

>>1183928
>Two of the posts are literally humans being mutilated
One's and octopus and one's a dragon you blithering faggot

>>1183728
Even if you or I believe that kind of content is okay, Youtube's rules, the logic behind them, and how selectively they enforce them is completely arbitrary and borderline random. There's no point in trying to make a logical argument about them.

>>1183928
>more all caps
>fixation on anal sex
Last (You) from me chief.

>>1183849
>Ah, so you really do think the murder of a cow and the murder of a human are the same thing?
>>1183855
>Jack the Ripper content isn't edgy.
Haato wasn't murdered. You're just posting cringe cope about a video series you didn't even watch.

Are you two just Antis? That is the only explanation I have on why you're acting this obtuse.

>>1183993
Yes I'm a Haachama anti.

>>1183952
>One's and octopus
With a human top half
And the other is literally a man being haunted by decapitated human heads.

Dipshit.
Don't reply again if you're going to cope with your destroyed, humiliated argument.

>>1183972
No it's not, you lost this argument so you need some gay way to cope. You can't address or even talk about why you think Haato's content was 'edgy', so you instead just play the "W-well I'm too GOOD to talk to you" bullshit cope argument.
Bad news faggot, you've been talking to me for over an hour. You don't get to play the "Well I'm too good for this now!" card AFTER you lost the argument.

Maybe you can go crawl back to your discord and discuss ways to soothe each other's assholes after this thrashing you've received.

>>1184204
>With a human top half
Being electrocuted, a thing seen as comical in Western media and thus is completely normalized. Skeletons aren't seen as graphic in the West.

Huh, maybe you really are Chinese

>And the other is literally a man being haunted by decapitated human heads.
You never posted anything like this.

>>1184032
Well that makes sense at least. I mean, I can't think of why people are acting like she had a Jason-esque slasher film uploaded to Youtube when there was basically no violence shown, no gore shown, and some mild psychological horror that might be as bad as Five Nights at Freddies, maybe.

>>1184204
This is just cringe, stop. You're making the rational argument look bad by doing this.

>>1184291
>she had a Jason-esque slasher film uploaded to Youtube when there was basically no violence shown, no gore shown, and some mild psychological horror that might be as bad as Five Nights at Freddies, maybe.
Wait, you didn't watch her videos? I guess you won't see them now.


You didn't even watch the one where she fucks a viewer, I guess.

>>1184267
>Being electrocuted, a thing seen as comical
That's not comical. at all.
>You never posted anything like this.
It's LITERALLY linked in one of the posts, four times.
>>1182206

And you're the one complaining that I was ignoring what you were saying? It was linked by these posts
>>1182239 >>1182253 >>1182597 >>1183728

Do you want some kind of consolation prize?

>>1184402
>That's not comical. at all.
Sorry I don't know any Chinese insults but just pretend I've used one

>>1184402
>That's not comical. at all.
Oh, NOW it's edgy.

>>1184377
>Wait, you didn't watch her videos?
I DID watch her videos, and she didn't have a jason-esque slasher film uploaded to it.
Now I know you're just trolling. you're trying to make the videos that were completely innocuous seem like violent pieces of gorewank because you know no one can go watch them anymore.
That shit is gay, bro. You're spreading rrats to tear down on Haachama about something that was completely innocent.

>>1184454
Yeah I bet you would use a Chinese insult, Chang. I know you're mostly reading from a script.
>>1184458
What was it you've been saying all the thread? Context matters? That's her frying to death, that wasn't played off as humor. That's her ultimate demise.
It's not like daffy duck getting electrocuted, that's her actually dying.

PG film.
>Oh, NOW it's edgy.
It's not, neither is Haachama's videos.

Glad we could agree, Zhang.

>>1184469
Good job ignoring the sexual content and gore.

inb4 another rant. You're going in circles and it's obvious you didn't/don't watch her content. It's an impressive play at being an ant: a false flag. Pretend to be a retarded Haaton and make her fanbase look like spergs.

I mean you ARE pretending, aren't you? Surely you aren't seriously this offended? Like, Soccer Mom tier offended? You wouldn't be, right?

>>1184555
Save yourself the embarrassment and stop posting. You spent the whole thread trying to act like the things she uploaded were as bad as any Scream movie, and now you're moving the goalposts to it being sexual content.
You know and I know that there was little to no gore involved and the fanart shown was stuff posted to her twitter. You're intentionally making it seem like something that it never was because you know nobody can verify it anymore.

Stop.
You're pathetic.

>I mean you ARE pretending, aren't you? Surely you aren't seriously this offended? Like, Soccer Mom tier offended? You wouldn't be, right?
I like how you're now trying to turn this around on me when you're the soccer mom that called her stuff 'edgy'.

>>1184660
Nice, nice, go the full autismal rant route! That'll do it!

>>1184555
>it's obvious you didn't/don't watch her content.
This.

>>1184555
>Good job ignoring the sexual content and gore.
>I mean you ARE pretending, aren't you? Surely you aren't seriously this offended? Like, Soccer Mom tier offended? You wouldn't be, right?
So little self awareness in such an empty head. Like you don't even realize that these two contradict one another.
Do you need Mommy to come pick you up from the park, little timmy?

>>1184709
Reply.

>>1184729
Also this.

>>1184681
Save yourself the cringe. you're not even pretending to argue anymore. You exclaim that I don't watch her content but then you whine about gore that wasn't there and sexual content that's on her public twitter account.
Whatever little game you were trying to play is over, you need to stop posting.

>>1178874
wachu talking about coco just got a free ps5 and a yakuza7 sponsorship

>>1184814
Reply.

>>1184729
>>1184792
Are you offended? Like Soccer mom offended?
You should be, you've wasted an hour of my time posting brainlet tier takes of someone you clearly don't watch. I hope the anger keeps you up at night.

>>1184894
Snarky reply.

>>1184894
Obligatory (You).

>>1184830
Do you even have anything to say for yourself? Any response to the fact that she retweeted the 'sexual content' on her twitter account and the 'gore' was also on her twitter account?
Like any kind of defense at all? Even a pretend defense?

I just want to know if you STILL think the same wrong things you came into the thread with even after you seemingly cannot defend your point of view anymore. Do you still think Haachama's videos were 'edgy'?

>>1184949
Quizzical reply.

Snazzy reaction image.

>>1184911
You should have stolen one of my posts for snark and wit.
>>1184919
Love it! Thanks.

>>1179897

Audience size does not matter. Earnings matter. Audience size is usually tied to earnings, but if you've got a bunch of broke-ass Chinese folk who aren't donating in superchat... who the fuck cares?

>>1184980
So you don't, you don't have any at all. You come into the Haachama thread after she has objectively had something really awful happen to her, tear down on her by saying her videos should have been taken down, and then start pretending to be an idiot.
Lovely.
Exactly what I expected from some loser anti who hates one of the most innovative vtubers in Hololive.

>>1185090
Yep.

>>1185137
Okay, but remember:

>>1178900
Mention Peko but no Korone? You should be ashamed.

>>1184993
Reply alluding to your homosexuality.

>>1185228
You'd be the expert on that, wouldn't you?

>>1185263
Nothing wrong with being gay, anon. This is about Homolive, after all.

>>1185263
no u

>>1178874
DRAMAFAGS ASSEMBLE the post

>>1185316
I mean, Cover really did fuck up.

>>1185290
Holos are good little girls who would not engage in sexual depravity.
Homostars on the other hand

>>1183954
The problem is that this doesn't hold even when you think about the kind of games they stream.
So Korone can play an actual horror game with dead bodies on every screen and corpses and dead children jumping out from behind every corner, but Haachama can't show her live2d model with the head lazily lopped off?
No, this isn't a Youtube decision. This is some dimwit at Cover. Youtube clearly doesn't care when other talents play way worse games ,why would they care about this?

This is someone at cover not using their head and crushing Haachama's story that she's possibly been building up for years.

>>1185402
Such creativeness.
https://youtu.be/fk5WeXBaID8?t=68

>>1185635
Yep.
Because that's Haachama exploiting Haato's body.
And all of that art was posted to her twitter.

Ten times more creative of a twist on a regular fanart review video than playing Apex for the thousandth time.

>>1185635
It actually is very creative because it plays into the story she was trying to tell. You would know that if you
yknow
watched her videos instead of whining about them being edgy on 4chan.

>>1185635
I like how you've quit arguing that Haato's video should have been removed and are now just tearing down on Haato as not being creative.
The mask is off and you're not even going to pretend that isn't the reason you're in this thread.
If she just streamed minecraft for the last month, you wouldn't be bitching at all, right? Or would you be calling her uncreative for that, too?

>>1185812
>>1185743
>>1185694
I'm not even that guy.

>>1185576
>So Korone can play an actual horror game with dead bodies on every screen and corpses and dead children jumping out from behind every corner, but Haachama can't show her live2d model with the head lazily lopped off?
Yes, that's exactly my point. The AI is insane and demonetizes or blocks content without any kind of internal logic. I agree it's possible Cover made a stupid decision for no reason, but I think it's also possible Youtube forced their hand.

Are people here on meth or are you just that new. or what? Did you already forget how Haachama vanished for a week after her 3D only to drop Red Heart with no fanfare. Did you already forget her Australia arc where she did similar things. This is how Chama operates and she's telling us "I'm taking a break, wait for me ok".

>>1178874
Because tomatoes are the sweetest if they struggle.

>>1178874
Retard drama addict thread

>>1185954
Sorry, it's easy to be on edge when the people outright admit that they're just here to shittalk Haato.

>>1185958
>Yes, that's exactly my point. The AI is insane and demonetizes or blocks content without any kind of internal logic.
But the decision to stop it also lacks any kind of internal logic.
It's literally the day of the reveal. Would it have killed them just to let her post the video? It's actually nonsense to stop it after she's already this far in. Clearly the algorithm didn't care before now.

>>1186428
Yeah, but we don't all mean what we say. I feel it is part of the board culture to troll and be trolled Being on 4chan too long makes our blains Haachama.
https://youtu.be/up_8JXefHlk

>>1179719
Meanwhile Nijis ignore or aren't aware of the dozens of talents that just disappear and abandon their accounts without so much as a Twitter post. Not to mention EOPs wouldn't give a shit about most indies graduating or leaving unless some retard Reddit or translator channel posts about it.

>>1179926

is this why hololive EOPs are basically begging to give yagoo a blowjob half the time

>>1186976
whatabout whatabout

>>1181888
People are offended by fucking everything now. It's the moral panic timeloop. Millennials are having kids, and they're acting the same as their parents did when they were kids, and their parents were just acting like their parents.

>>1180613
>>reee my oshi is perfect and flawless

>>1179271
this is NOT ogey

>>1179119
/jp/keks can't handle criticism of glorious Nippon company. What's new?

This thread
>Smelly neggers doing their /jp/ part
>Chink chong Teipen Chihwa nuhba 1
>Plebbit m'lady tipshats clap clap
>Tourismos who are worse than the first one on the list
To wrap it nicely, do your sudoku reps and one day you will succeed

>>1178900
>Aqua
Fucking pls

>>1187547
NijiCHADs not like this kek

>>1180392
>>1180431
>Blaming m-muh Cocofags and not nuclear-level autistic Zhangs for causing this situation in the first place

>>1180431
You are also a mistake.

>>1179119
it's true, but the NGAfags making part of their plan to raid /jp/ saying it made it chinkposting

>>1191838
>Acting like if Aqua isn't one of the most important talents of Cover.
Do Haatons really?

>>1178874
I dont really think its a Cover issue. They could probably do a better job at covering them ironicly but at least in Haachama's case it seems more on Youtube then anything.

Two weeks of depicting self harm, suicide, and mental illness even through a fictional character is dangerous content for the platform. Seems more likely all her boundary pushing finally caught up with her.

>>1208773
Why are you bumping a thread that needs to just fucking die already?

>>1209097
More like EOPs who solely watch Haachama outside the EN branch because they hate Japanese deep down

>>1212619
Just like the haachama arc.

>>1209097
She's the nijikiller and I respect her for that but she's not particularly talented at anything nor relevant now the chinks have gone

>>1179750
I kneel.

>>1179897
EOPS are more plentiful, less clingy and donate more. They also don't throw a feces hurling hissy fit over the existence of a country. If you think about it logically, there is quite literally no reason to choose CN over EN

especially when you consider that HoloCN is not only commitment to China. Its also a Commitment against all of Chinas enemies, which includes a long list of promising economies, which includes, but is not limited to:
-India
-Vietnaam
-and the entire Western World

>>1212587
do you expect antis to understand logic?

>>1179271
You farmed my (you)

>>1220813
They debuted HoloEN and CN didn't make a peep. They could've coexisted perfectly fine.

>>1179750
god white people rapping is so cringe