/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>11888879
let's hope Ina don't get addicted again and ends up killing her channel with ffxvi streams

>>11888879
after the asmongold stream fiasco they know that stream sniping attention whores will get banned for acting foolish and dirsuptive, but the real problem is that final fantasy xiv is, how do you say, an extremely stalker-friendly mmorpg. i feel like even if they have everything on lockdown they're still going to be pretty easy to track down by obsessed types in-game.

I'm late on my archive reps, all of them getting addicted to a game I don't care about for a while would be a blessing.

>>11889370
it's cool but i sort of wonder how well the experience of a heavily story-driven mmorpg can be conveyed by a handful of vtubies.

Rip ina's sanity.

>>11888879
>Fans worried for playing game other than MC/Apex
lol

It'd be pretty fun to see the servers crash as their fans try to get in plastered on the news. Stream is cancelled and they play Gartic Phone instead.

>>11889559
No it's FFXIV fans who don't want swarms of holofags in their game.

>>11889688
>literal assfaggot furries don’t want anything disrupting their larp
Many such cases.

>>11889688
Isn’t that game ERP central? What’s another streamer in there?

>>11889746
>larp
what do you think this word means, anon?

>>11889052
>they play an mmo
>but not with fans
If I was a hololive fan, this'd actually rustle my jimjams. What's even the point of playing an MMO alone on stream? And if you're playing with the other holos while excluding fans in an actual unironic MMO (as opposed to amogus), why not just play off stream?

If they pull that shit, I'll definitely lose respect for them just from how arrogant it would be. What, are they too good to play vidya with fans? If so, then they're too good for my filthy peasant money.

>>11888879
Chicken already said it'd be a bad stream game for them as it is a lot of grinding. You can only do mmo content if it is the only thing you do. So if the jrpg addict who already played xiv is passing I doubt an arc will happen.

Irys will play, go oh that's cute and never play again.

>>11889663
FFXIV isn't some indie company MMO, their servers can take a player spike while some Holo is streaming, especially considering that even if we are talking about a 15k viewers stream realistically not even 1/5th of the people watching would get in to stalk them.

>>11889842
they kind of need to plan this carefully or it can get genuinely disruptive, for example constantly hovering around them and killing enemies they're trying to kill and etc attention whoring. maybe a good way to avoid bad things happening would be to invite members to join in for some parties rather than just randoms.

>>11889867
XIV's story carries you through the leveling process for at least one class without any grinding.

So could this lead to another Vshojo collab? Unless Hololive is using a private server, they're gonna run into each other.

>>11889688
Not them specifically, the servers are already on the brink of death and we're still a month away from the new expansion. The next wave of sprouts will be our last.

>>11888879
what people think will happen:
>everyone starts playing trying to get on stream
>"trolling"
>bored high end players being annoying as shit with music and mounts
what is going to happen:
>3 hour ques due to streamsnipers
>giving up
>somehow getting in, skipping all content via boosting and everyone getting mad

The only winning move is not to play

>>11889842
I think Reine and Fubuki already played an MMO on a stream. I think Reine's was sponsored. Miko would have a number of her fans in GTA. It's not that strict. I think some people like Ame just take it too seriously. Ame declined the offer of playing TF2 but Pekora did it. What's the difference? One person is more involved in the idea and was willing to look into it. Even when Pekora got a troll on her first Gartic Phone, she played it again to prove that fan engagement is possible.

This game was boring when I tried it, gave it a few hours but couldn't get hooked at all

>>11890123
That might be the ARR filter. Everyone even diehard fans say the beginning story arc is a goddamn slog

>>11888879
who the fuck wants to watch someone grinding for 10+ hours?
also didn't moona already stream this?

>>11890053
Remember that Ina already played the game and knows how the community would react if any of them boosted.
The queue thing is barely a point too, I bet they'll just make a party before queuing up.

>>11890111
HoloEN's managers must really hate the fans, they try to block all fan engagement.

>>11890208
the person you are replying to is referring to server capacity login queues.

>>11888879
THIS is journalism now?

>>11890257
you're reacting like this to the title of an article

>>11890250
Well, not like much will change then. At least Europe is still safe.

>>11890193
I'd rather just play a good single-player RPG instead. MMOs aren't worth it

>>11890257
They're otaku culture experts anon. They know their stuff.

>>11889842
Thats what Choco is doing. She has been trying to get her manager to let her play whatever the hell MMO she is playing on stream but she wont let her. So she just does 30 hour marathons off stream

>>11890223
Kiara always does stuff like amongus and gartic phone. They have the same manager. Irys is part of EN and is considering playing the game for funsies so it seems to me each EN chuuba is just using their own interpretation of the rules as basis. That famous clip of Gura stuttering and Kiara just talking like normal when asked about Irys before her debut is proof enough.

>>11890193
It is, Heavensward is where the game and story get good. It's also why it's included in the free trial.

>>11890309
Maybe it has a chinese dev. A lot of MMO has chinese ties

>>11890408
It has p2w garbage and boosters
I'm 99% certain its korean

>>11890111
Gartic phone has only ever been members only since the windmill of friendship and tolerance. I'm sure people will say it's better that way but it has been a change in response.

>>11890208
If Irys will be the one to try it out first, she may not know anything. People may need to warn her first.

>>11889559
More like FFXIV don't want a wave of newfags in the game because of server issues.

>>11890340
>Kiara always does stuff like amongus and gartic phone.
Didn't she do that with invited artists from Twitter?

>>11890490
She initially did with viewers but then invited artists after because she wanted better art or something. It's gartic phone, it's supposed to be silly fun.

>>11889842
calm down nijibrony, no one gives a shit what you think

>>11888879
>Fans are worried?
no they arent

>>11889746
>larp
ngmi

>>11890477
Oh I'm sure they're talking about this internally. As long as Irys isn't a WoW refugee, since they have the tendency to just skip through shit as fast as possible to reach the endgame, she'll be fine. It's more of an RPG than an MMO and that's how it should be treated.

>>11890223
after the schizo letter a chumbud sent to Gura, basically saying he would rape her and the nazi who snipped pekora's gartic stream, i would be extra careful too

>>11890662
Wasnt it because they found location trackers in one of the mails

>>11890490
>>11890553
What happened was susan, the member invites only got sent to mobile users so really uninteresting stick figures followed. Artist invites saved the stream

>>11889842
>What, are they too good to play vidya with fans?
Yes. (You), holofaggots, need to get ur mental checked before having any kind of interaction aside from your mom

>>11890204
The same retards that watch people grind ranks in Apex? Or the same people who will watch people build mediocre shit in Minecraft for months?

>>11888879
Are they? Whose fans and why? Kiara played WoW with no issues. I take it this is clickbait.

Oh yeah what happened with Kiara playing wow?

>>11891688
WoW died.

>>11889831
Only on the Crystal sever.

>>11891610
>dead game
>played on european servers (even deader)
Come on now anon. You cant compare it to a real alive MMO

>yoshi-P adds hololive cosmetics into FFXIV
How would you react?

>>11891688
Nothing, she had a nostalgia stream with a shit-ton of fans and there was no issues. And now there's and issue why, exactly?

>>11888879
Do journalists actually get paid to write stories about vtubers??

>>11888879
Ina already revealed that months ago

>>11891809
More cash shop bullshit to milk his cows with

Who's going to get addicted to the gold saucer?

>>11891809
They already added Korone's jacket mate

>>11891610
There are quite a few ways a newbie can piss off the community. It's not quite as simple as with WoW.

>>11891828
Yes
Journalists write rrats AND get paid for it.

>>11891797
Bruh, it's still fucking WoW, the point stands. Despite the "risks" there was no issues, like with any other multiplayer game any chubas play. A chill-pill is in order.

what's the big fucking deal about FFXIV, moona played it no problem, it was just a chill stream full of the occasional snipers here and there

>>11891688
She always said it wasn't going to be an actual long running series anyway, she just wanted to hop into wow classic once for nostalgia's sake and that's basically it.

>>11891929
oh wait nevermind, she deleted those streams

>>11890204
>who the fuck wants to watch someone grinding for 10+ hours?
Choco don't look.

>>11891797
Wouldn't call it dead when it still has millions of players.

>>11891982
>millions
250.000 confirmed players as of before lawsuit

>>11891982
>millions
>plural
anon...

>>11891999
>>11892026
https://activeplayer.io/world-of-warcraft/

>>11891610
Don't listen to these retards. I play XIV and here's the truth.
If you don't know, WoW is basically on the suicide watch, so many players are jumping from that game to XIV, which is an arguably better clone who always existed but never was in the spotlight.
XIV had basically no streaming scene, WoW plenty. WoW streamers obviously jumped ship too, and do you want to know what's the playerbase that got most assblasted from it? The trannies, literal pussies and other retards who thought that streamers would bring the Ninth Calamity or something. Those are and always have been the worst part of the XIV community, they're a minority and nobody likes them.
In fact, streamers came, and nothing happened. Most of the XIV community welcomed them with open arms, even an infamous WoW streamer notorious for shitting on the game years ago.

So TL;DR: if it's true that the XIV community is complaining, they're the usual retards that nobody gives two shit about. XIV's community is very welcoming. The problem comes when you enter in groups full of drama queens or retarded elitists. Also, mods ban people griefing others very quickly, including streamers.

THAT SAID, XIV is a shit game to stream, hopefully nobody in Hololive streams it because it would be boring as hell to watch, even if they get to endgame fights which are the fun of the game (but to play, not to watch).

>>11888879
Wait, we're supposed to be worried? I had no idea.

The vshojos have been playing XIV on stream many times before without any big problems. Granted they did have a lot less viewers back then.

>>11889842
>playing with the other holos while excluding fans
That's just it, the fans wouldn't really be playing with the holos, even if they were invited. It would be a group of randos staring at them and not participating in the game, or they will spam in-game chat, or they will steal kills or grief by pulling high level mobs.
In a perfect world, holos could join with some members linkshell and go on raids with a few people sometimes, and no one would bother them. The reality is, every stalker in existence would buy the game just to stare at their in-game character and generally be a little retarded shit, ruining the experience for everyone.
This isn't even getting into the borderline nsfw content littering every corner of the game.

Is there world PvP in XIV? Snipers could gank them all day

>>11892171
Can you even steal kill in FF14? I thought everyone got exp depending on how much they participated in the fight.

>>11892218
No, but they could bother them in other ways like covering their screen with giant flying mounts.
Last time someone tried to do that to a popular streamer they got banned fairly quickly tho.

The problem isn't griefers, it's the boring ass game itself.

>>11890223
to be fair, EN (more like global) fans are much worse than JP fans when it comes to being disruptive, so there is reason to be more restrictive for EN engagement online.

who keeps posting dirtsheets

>>11892054
>WoW is now on par with WoD in terms of sub count.
You are actually insane if you think this chart is in any way accurate.

>>11890111
>Ame declined the offer of playing TF2
she's a fucking pussy, and shows how much she trusts her fanbase

>>11892317
I don't see any evidence contradicting it.

>>11892069
>t would be boring as hell to watch

It was fun when Moona played it with fans.

>>11888879
I don't play FFXIV but didn't Ina say she would be hesitant to play it on stream because it would require her to start again or something?
Given Ina is a massive pussy when it comes to online games I'd be surprised if she plays it.

>>11892408
Well if the majority likes it no problem, I assumed nobody likes to watch MMOs. Popular MMO streamers are exclusively watched for the streamer themselves rather than the game, while Holos viewerships decrease a lot when they're streaming niche games.

>>11892397
Where have you been for the last 4 months?

>>11892542
Where's your evidence?

Guys. I don't see any problem. It's fucking Irys. She will 100% be clueless and be engaged with chat and try to play the game to her utmost pon ability. If people do something yabe on her stream, she will just cut it off. If she does something "unethical" people will forgive her because she doesn't know shit. If fans does something shitty, she will just not stream it anymore. End of story. If everything goes well then it can be a game that she MIGHT play from time to time once she realizes the grind is too troublesome for her. She tried playing Subnautica twice and we are still waiting for the next sched for it. Probably never.

>>11892573
It's called common sense. Keep living in your delusions though.

>>11892449
>Given Ina is a massive pussy when it comes to online games
Ina is absolutely hardcore no fun allowed. She puts on a mask for vtubing but that's who she really is behind it. FFXIV is her biggest drug and it would mean to take off the mask and return to her tryhard addicted self.

>>11892601
All sources documenting WoW's active player count indicate that player counts are in the millions your "common sense" is bullshit delusions.

>>11888879
Kiara recently talked about the XIV thing a little bit in an sc reading afterpart of a stream.
Basically heavily implied that it's actually Omegatranny who is pushing the whole EN group to all get on XIV, for some harebrained whatever reason of his (also remember the old connection that Omega may be Ina's AO, and the minecraft chat leaks where XIV was brought up), he apparently reeeally wants them to play this (his) fucking game.
From how she sounded, it didn't seem like the girls are all too hot and eager on this idea. Some are not interested, some are apprehensive but would go along, but no one is really excited about it. Kiara would be up for it, but probably boost through the parts she already played years ago (I believe she mentioned being level 60 or so, that'd mean she played around heavensward time) and said for her it heavily depends if enough other girls also come along (playing solo is boring and miserable), oh and Ina would be more of an advisor than a smurfing player again.

As for if playing XIV would be even a good idea in general, nah I'd agree it's not really. And not because of hurrdurr streamsnipers, trolls, and shit. Sure, that too, but that's only a minor annoyance. The main reason is I think it's just not a good stream game (if you like it, great for you). It's very story heavy and can be a slog to grind through, especially watching 11 girls go through the same shit. Or they could just buy jump potions and watch the XIV story nerds explode. Most of the girls are not sweaty gamer types enough to be enticed by the prospect of hardcore raiding (also it'd be a logistical nightmare to constantly organize collabs if they want to tackle raids as a group), and what else is there to do? Dick around in housing and glamorshit? They already got minecraft for all their chill casual gaming needs. It's just boring and would require a huge time investment from the girls in return for very little reward, and there's better stuff they could do with their time than waste it on a making a new huge fucking series out of it if they themselves aren't really into it.

>>11892361
I wouldnt trust EN fans either espfuckingecially in a shitfest like TF2 where you can use literally any image you want 0 moderation for shit like sprays and such and thats not even mentioning names
Its a miracle that pekora managed to end up with a redditor and only got greeted by the ogey

>>11892623
Yeah actually I realized another problem with XIV:
I suppose Holos will take it easy on stream, but if they plan to do something harder together... Well, imagine Ina (good at the game) playing with someone like Anya who dies to literally every mechanic.
She can keep her calm as much as she want but I bet she'd rage inside.
Bad idea of a game, unless they keep it casual.

>>11892595
Just watch her 12 Mins stream. The girl is hilarious and barely missed a bit. She doesn't take anything too serious and will 100% play this game with the same approach. Just for funsies kind of look. There really is no point in making a big deal out of this. If this was someone like Ina or Kronii maybe drama can arise depending on how they react to situations

>>11892700
>Basically heavily implied that it's actually Omegatranny who is pushing the whole EN group to all get on XIV
Just fucking kill that Vtweeter already.

>>11892746
He is Ina's friend from her XIV days and became manager and centerpiece of Council. He has become deeply ingrained into Hololive even if none of the talents other than Ina seem to like him

>>11892702
Pekora also got Watamelon'd

>>11892702
Ame already did that sponsor stream where she played with people. I doubt it would be any much of a mess. Take a chill pill

>>11892700
Found the timestamp: Kiara talking about playing FFXIV and some of her thoughs on it being a possible HoloEN project, from a recent stream (oct 17)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU_nCvEq_Y4&t=5751s

>>11892896
NOOOOOOOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND I DON'T WANT THEM PLAYING FF4GAY THEY HAVE TO PLAY MIIIIIIIIIIIINECRAFT ! !

>>11892789
Was it a dude? Irys heavily implied it was a woman. And Irys have worked with her a lot given that she's her producer. I don't know if people like Kronii who is using he for her has even spoken to her.

>>11892960
This but unironically.

>>11892688
Your sources don't even say where they get the numbers from, the fuck does "logged players" mean? It's literally the same shit with FF and it's 26 milion players.
Listen here, 9.0 was shit, 9.1 was underwhelming, 9.1.5 has no content and 9.2 is in late march. Every major streamer has left the game and everyone is shitting on it constantly. If you seriously think they're sustaining 6m subs with this piece of shit expansion, then there is no saving you.

>>11892960
Are you ok?

>>11892978
AO/OA/Enma is a dude and the same person. Kiara said it once and got bonked.

My bet is that they are just forced to pretend it's a woman since some people (aka /vt/) would go schizo about it if it were more known.

>>11893025
Not him but they actually are, of course they're bleeding dry, but MMOs fanbases are full of Stockholm syndrome cases that would let the game even fuck their wife and still wouldn't bat an eye. Specially Blizzdrones.

>>11893054
almost certainly yeah. if their manager were a guy it'd be rrat-city so their "persona" and social media presence has to be at worst non-binary

>>11893054
I always wondered why they don't just hire someone like A-chan and save themselves the headache of having 10 people dancing around the topic all the time.

>>11893054
I don't think anyone would be upset to know that the first employee of HoloEN is a dude. They do talk the same way now that I can recall. Anyways, I would be more pumped to see a stream where Botan plays an FPS coop with Irys, Bae, Mumei and Kronii. That sounds hella fun.

>>11893194
Unironically nepotism.
People meme about Sana being nepotism but she's just a sweet girl that draws amazingly and could have gotten in with or without Ina's help since her portfolio is even better than Ina's.

Ina keeping OA/Enma's faggot ass in Hololive is her real nepotism sin.

>>11893274
what exactly is wrong with this person

>>11893194
Cover has a lot of dudes working for them. It's a tech company foremost. Most/ALL of their leadership are dudes. I think managers are mostly women though. Even their creative staff have men. Just look at the credits for Legend of Polka. A-chan btw is not a manager. Omega is not a manager as well.

>>11893274
Omega got in before Ina got hired. Omega probably hired Ina.

>>11892978
>>11893054
>>11893172
>>11892789
>>11892746
what

>>11893388
Yes. He did a good job with the screening process. What he didn't needed to do was
1) Create some chuunishit fanfic lore for EN2 and make all of the girls dance awkwardly around the topic
2) Make an OC DoNUT St33l, insert himself into his chuuni fanfic, AND make himself the most powerful being in the setting. Literally 12 years old deviantArt tier writing there, OA.
3) Steal EN2's thunder by being the "secret boss debut" despite not even being a streaming talent
4) Try to become an A-Chan kind of figure despite not having the charisma nor the right sex for it. He just keeps vtweeting and doing nothing

>>11893637
don't include me in this i'm not a part of the hate crowd for a random behind the scenes holo dude i'm just saying i know people here are fucking insane

>>11893637
me

>>11893677
If he is a dude then he may never stream whatsover. If he does stream regardless in the EN channel, then it's probably going to be something big like a sponsorship stream that everyone is involved. I don't see any happening. We will have to wait and see. The lore shit is fine with me. I don't really see a problem with it. I think they just wanted to justify wanted to create a lore that can connect the FGO artists that they hired for EN2. I think people like Kiara are just bitter that the new batch is more powerful than her lorewise which is a really stupid thing to be upset about. If you really don't care about lore then why be upset about lore? It only means you care.

>>11893917
Kiara wasn't even upset about him. I am.

>>11889842
Moonafic were well behaved during Moona's stream, she even made a guild for members but... I can't imagine how bad it'd be if Chumbuds or even worse Nosagi found out their oshi was going to be playing

>>11893968
That still proves my point. Why be upset about thing you say you don't care about?? It's like you are just looking for something to get annoyed at. I am more upset with how Omega handled Irys's EP. The TV size for COD was a bad move. It should have been a full song. It didn't have to be full animated to cut the cost. They should have made the MVs for the other songs in the MV sooner rather than making covers of HoloSongs as well. The HoloSong covers should be what Irys should be releasing in a bi-weekly basis on her 2nd or 3rd month.

>>11893837
this is faked because i'm >>11893172 and you aren't

>>11893917
i actually don't even know why people hate the extremely loose "lore" to holoEN. it genuinely isn't any more cringy than any of the lore shit in holomyth, much less more than a handful of holoJP's character backstories that are completely idiotic. and unlike holomyth, holocouncil definitely takes their characterization and backstories way the fuck less seriously and as such actually talk like normal people right out of the gate. they learned from the stumblings of early holoEN.

>>11894109
KFP behaved well too when Kiara played WoW. Good.
Takos are a bunch of attention whores and Ina attracted a bunch of rabid XIV fags for being a triple legend. Bad
Deadbeats barely even watch Mori stream. Good.
Chumkeks are the biggest, youngest, and potentially the worst.
IDK about Teammates but I'm gonna say neutral.

>>11894199
much less cringy than more than a handful*

Here's a rrat that isn't related to Ω
Maybe Cover is just trying to get into the Square-Enix influencer program and they need something more than Nier streams.

>>11889052
Asmongold had a rough time trying to play FFXIV, and that was even with GMs protecting him and banning excessively disruptive players. Hololive is going to be disastrous.

>>11894335
They already have Pekora, Botan, Fubuki, and Subaru to name a few that has done more than enough sponsorship streams for Square Enix. I cannot count how many but the girls have raked in quite a buck. I think Mori and Gura has too. All of those streams were not related to Nier btw.

>>11892702
>>11890111
Why not a private server with another holo? Pekora and Botan had a really fun PUBG match with members from each channel.

Kinda makes me feel nostalgic for the audience participation AmongUs Streams.

>>11894225
teammates gonna be a 50/50 split of the well behaved and absolutely depraved.
>>11894480
EN side though. On the JP side they have no issues for sure yea.
>>11894465
It got better once the griefers knew the GMs would act, the first bit was really fucking rough yea.

>>11894465
oh, no doubt. but i still look forward to it. but consider this: if irys lives in japan, she might play on a JP datacenter, and if holoclowns ruin THEIR servers with their sniping and attention whoring they'll probably ban a lot more of them and prioritize it more, because they don't care about non-JP servers for shit lol

IF it happens then it'll probably just be them running some Endwalker dungeons or early questing on boosted characters as a promotion for the game and then never touch it again.

>>11894777
Kiara seems to say here that
>>11892929
They would be playing it for real and not as a promotion
If it was just a 1 and done thing I don't think there would be nearly as much speculation and distrust about it

>>11894628
>It got better once the griefers knew the GMs would act, the first bit was really fucking rough yea.
It did get better but there's still crowds time-to-time which makes it hard to access NPCs and stuff.
>>11894630
Endwalker is going to have crossdata center travel

Should they pick a job that's fitting of their lore?
>Calli - Reaper
>Kiara - Summoner
>IRyS - Bard
>Ina - Sage
>Ame - Monk
>Gura - DRG
>Sana/Kronii - Astrologian
>Fauna - WHM
>Mumei - PLD
>Bae - Black Mage

>>11894958
not at launch

>>11894630
I think JP datacenters are the best place for them to play on, latency notwithstanding. Because hololive is a bigger thing and attentionwhoring is a bigger social stigma. FBK had well behaved strangers on PSO, even when she was just grinding public events.

The only reason the GMs were on asmongold and the other media "influencers" was because ALL the Elevens were uncomfortable with the WoWfugeees, even the "normies". https://automaton-media.com/articles/newsjp/20210721-169712/

>>11895148
probably not. they should pick jobs they have interest in playing (also RPR, SGE, and AST aren't available as starting jobs).

i think what's likely to happen is there'll be a base job they pick and if they pick up a secondary at any point it's going to be one of the jobs that unlocks at and starts at level 50, 60, or 70 because there's less work involved to pick them up.

>ywn teach your oshi how to play their job optimally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU_nCvEq_Y4&t=5751s

>(Kiara responding to chat comment)
>Final Fantasy XIV? Uh, yes, I mean… that’s kind of been like in the talks since the very beginning. Uhm… I don’t know if it’d really be a big thing in Hololive English, to be honest though… why, I like the game and you know Ina also likes the game and all that… I feel like, uhm, not everyone is that interested in it in Hololive English, and I don’t blame them, it’s not everyone’s kind of game.

>So, some people said they would participate but they don’t want to stream it… I don’t know, it feels like… management, SOMEONE from management [tl note: fuck off, Omegatranny] wants to push… wants to see us play it, and wants it to be like kind of our thing, but uhm… not everyone is quite into it... which is okay, understandable, I’m also not into all kinds of games.

>And I see how it can be very difficult to stream MMORPGs. First of all, I was asking like, okay if we do this, are we start from like level one and grind ourselves up, or are we gonna get like one of those max level thingies, and then work from there? Because, if it’s like, almost all of them (are) beginners at FFXIV, I feel like it makes no sense to give everyone max level immediately, because they will miss the whole story and they will not understand how the game works, and once you’re max level you’re like, what’s your purpose, you’re gonna be doing dungeons n’ shit. But you don’t even know how the game works, and you miss like the whole point of the game.

>But the other way around, if you start from level one, then the whole game can feel very grindy, especially for people who don’t play MMORPGs in general, for people who don’t even like MMORPGs or have no experience with it, just getting from level one to level sixty, and then onwards from that. I did that before in FFXIV […], but as much as I personally enjoyed it because I love MMORPGs, it took definetly a lot of time, and it definetly was grindy. They have great story too, but MMORPGs are grindy, so… I really don’t see how most of Hololive English would enjoy it, unless you’re an MMORPG addict, like me and Ina.

>And not only how the members would enjoy it, but how it would be streamed? And it’s quite the commitment, because you gotta put a lot of time into that if you want to get somewhere with it. And the girls just don’t have that much time, to invest into something that they’re not even that passionate about. I don’t know… there’s not much motivation, currently. I wouldn’t mind revisiting it, but I don’t know about making it into a whole thing, like a series. But if you don’t make it into a whole series, what sense does it make, though? Start an MMORGP, play it for one stream or two streams and that’s it, personally to me that doesn’t even make sense…
>(Kiara continues to talk about her personal experiences with XIV)

>>11895511
Thank you based chicken please keep being a big mouth when defending your coworkers from management's retarded whims

>>11895511
This will all be moot IF they ever get a big sponsorship stream for it. All boost characters and just them running around getting amazed about the most stupidest thing. I will find it hilarious and all point will be lost. These girls are entertainers. The games however you want to project your requirements unto them is only a tool for them to engage with their viewers and create content. This is why I don't like watching Jrpg streams except when Miko or Pekora plays them. I don't care about the story. I just care about the chuuba's reaction to stuff

>>11895511
Not the biggest fan of ol' chicken voice, but she's absolutely on-point with this one. Unless one of the holos really wanted to nolyfe 30-40 hours a week this shit like asmongold and a bunch of other streamers did it, it's not so great of a stream game, even after the changes to the MSQ from 1-50 + Astral era quests.

>>11895605
Same, for all her faults, her outspokeness gives us valuable insights into some behind the scenes stuff we wouldn't get otherwise, and yeah if all the other girls are too passive or meek and go along with such a retarded management idea (like, Omegatranny forcing his talents to become XIV streamers) even if they're actually not really into it, you can count on Kiara for at least call out that bullshit.

>>11890193
The game unironically takes 100 hours to get good, but after that point it's a masterpiece

>>11895947
I disliked her at first but she successfully forces this gigantic group of autists to collab and makes sure that bullshit like OA's retardedness doesn't flies. Also the rest of the girls seem to like her. She's an absolutely necessary part of HololiveEN and it wouldn't work if instead of her they had hired another meek autist introvert.

>>11895511
Holy shit based bird, people give shit to Kiara but she really does not hold back in these situations. Fucking proves that all the problems EN has been facing lately is because of Omega, dude has been pushing the girls to stream FF XIV when it becomes available for them because for whatever reason he wants it to be their main game probably so he can larp with them in game and carry them. If the rrats are true, he was someone who played with Ina's roommate and probably wants to replicate that experience for stream.

Fuck XIV. I want to see Ame teabagging shitters in Halo Infinite MP.

At least one Holo is going to do a sponsored stream of it since MS is desperate for any nipland exposure that they can get

>>11896105
Even Ina moved on but considering he doesn't seems to be that good at management or at anything, getting Triple Legend along with Ina seems to be the high point of his life and wants it to happen again despite dealing with a completely different group of autists than his old raid party.

>>11896165
Then Botan will get the spons not Ame

>>11896165
Only if they manage to make Infinite O'Donnell free.

>>11895794
Sure, maybe Omegatranny's big project is to whore the EN girls out to Squenix and make them into their big dedicated shill ambassadors for Endwalker or something. (think Kiara for Tales of Arise, the crucial difference being that she is actually a Tales fan and wanted to play the game anyway, whereas most of the EN girls couldn't give less of a fuck about XIV and would have to be forced to do it).

So if he gets a sponsorship, he could order them to do it for business reasons, but it would be absolutely miserable. You know how some of them, like Ame and Gura, can't fake any enthusiasm for shit they clearly aren't interested in, so they'd basically just mindlessly going through the motions to get their required hours done in to collect the paycheck, and then drop that shit like it was leprous.

>>11888879
If they are going to play MSQ then they should not play at all. They will just gonna move around with tons of stalkers, not fun to see. If they are going to play raids contents together then it's good, we can get some good laughs just like when Nijisanji ID did Bahamut in the past.

>>11889004
Ina at least knows she has that tendency fro that so she will be careful. I'd be more worried about IRyS. I could see her spamming it and massacring her channel.

>>11896167
Ina moved on because she realized it was fucking up her life. Which is why I can't see her touch it as Ina.

>>11896167
don't have to worry about that. there is literally a 0% chance that a group of hololive streamers will clear a savage tier, much less any or all ultimates.

>>11896211
I doubt it will be that boring if there's like 11 people playing at the same time. It will most likely be chaotic with Council and Irys driving the conversations of trolling proportions. People will make hundreds of clips and everyone will be happy. MC streams only became entertaining in EN because people were playing it together. Many people that watch Holos are normies that just want their oshis to have fun with other girls.

>>11896211
>Kiara
>Tales fan

Does she have any Fujo tendencies? I know the Tales fandom has a fuckton of them which led to the shitshow that was Zestiria.

>>11896318
No way. Irys is wayy busier than your average HoloEN. She has a lot of stuff going for her behind the scenes. She only really plays games that she can finish in one sitting. If she does ever play this game. The best outcome is for her to play it once a month if numbers are good. Her subnautica stream didnt get a part 3 because it was grindy and she didn't enjoy that part.

>>11896337
>Be Ina 7 years ago
>Be worthless NEET
>Do nothing with your college degree, can't even get a job
>Spend all day every day playing XIV
>Literally all you do for years
>Parents are really worried
>Suffering and depressed because the only thing in her life is XIV
>Drop XIV except for when expansion drops
>Start dedicating yourself to be a pro artist for serious like you always wanted
>Manage to practice seriously for a few years until you become really good
>Get $$$
>Become a streamer for fun
>Apply to Hololive
>Manage to get in because your art is really good now
>Become even richer
>Set for life
>New friends
>Lots of exciting stuff to do everyday

Dropping XIV was literally the best decision in Ina's whole life. Anyone that wants her to touch it again is a fucking retard. Especially OA since he seems to be her friend.

>>11896048
HW is great, SB not so much. I mean, it's not BAD as such but it really suffers from having 2 concurrent storylines that are supposed to be interconnected but aren't in practice. ShB is the best FF story in 20 years though, no hyperbole.

>>11890223
All it takes is one "NIGGER" to bypass their text filters on screen then they have a PR nightmare

>>11896401
Nah, she's mostly in it for the cute girls, and has never given any indication that she likes BL

>>11888879
>Not minecraft

oh thank fucking god

>>11889688
But I'm already in their game? I made Gura my retainer.

>>11896495
>not disabling on-screen chat or covering it
It'd be brave to take that risk, but there's always the option of just covering it.

>>11891828
As much as clippers per click Id wager

Isn't most FFXIV content either 4 or 8 player? Won't they have to odd-one-out a girl most of the time?

>>11896666
There's no way moomers or mori bother with it so no worries

>>11896666
95% of XIV content is pug-friendly. You only really NEED a premade for top-end raids. Oh and PvP I suppose, but nobody cares about that.

>>11896473
FFXIV is definitely less grindy than subnautica desu

>>11894335
Jahy sama the anime ia produced by square enix and the first ending was sang by subaru nene and luna
But yeah them playing the new ff14 on launch would solidify Cover's partnership with Square enix

>>11896495
Eh, seeing dumbass chats isn't really their fault. Calli got baited into saying nigger and nobody cared.

>>11896392
It's gonna be a massive logistical nightmare to get all 11 girls playing together, especially as a regular thing. With timezones and everyone being busy, scheduling is a bitch, has to be basically organized weeks well in advance, and installments are gonna be weeks apart so progress will be slow as molasses (especially in such a narrative driven game like XIV) and as Kiara said not everyone (basically no one besides her and Ina) is actually all that interested in the game in the first place (sure, they could fake it for the duration, if being "forced" by business reasons, but do you really want that for them?), so it would be rather miserable.

This wouldn't be comparable to the recent impromptu Minecraft "collabs" we've seen, where people just randomly see that someone is available and decide to hop on for a while (exactly because it's so casual and unforced is what makes those so fun), it would be more like "official" organized shit, like raiding for example, and that'd suck most of the fun out of it (there's not much good casual conversation to be had when everybody needs to be focused on boss mechanics etc.)

Now, I'm not saying it couldn't work, if it's for a smaller group of people (for example, only the ones who are actually interested, or have enough of the common time available), or only done as a small series, so no "xhundreds hours journey from level 1 to 80" for every girl, but just a few focused streams, dedicated to showing off different parts of the game to appease the sponsor, and that's it.
But for whatever pipedream Omegatranny has, that HoloEN is gonna become his personal dedicated full-on FFXIV streamer org, no way fag, just fuck off black to vtweeting or whatever you do, instead of tormenting the girls like this.

>>11896473
Ah you're right. I sometimes forget she's a Vsinger that has to practice a lot and attend several concerts a year once she got her 3D. Guess there isn't much to worry about because HoloMyth don't really care and I can't see the rat or moomer playing it more than a single stream in which they get distracted and do their own thing for 2 hours tops.

>>11894958
>It did get better but there's still crowds time-to-time which makes it hard to access NPCs and stuff.
That has less to do with streaming, and is just a general issue with the game itself. Patch release days are far worse than anything that has been on Asmon's stream. There are several in jokes about the various server and instance crashes on patch days (Raubahn EX, red chocobo apocalypse, etc)

>>11889052
>Asmongold stream fiasco
Quick run down?

>>11895148
SCH is a better fit for Ina, plus it was apparently her main anyway

>>11890123
Same, crafting was cool, but it was just so boring and the quests weren't plentiful enough to just have shit to do compared to classic WoW

>>11897407
I actually thought SCH at first, didn't know it was her main

>>11897407
Ina was a SCH main? It's hard to imagine her having the typical smug arrogance of a Triple Legend SCH main.

>>11896392
Have you actually played XIV? The game doesn't really drive opportunities for what you're describing.

>>11897407
Ina used to upload her raids to a 2view youtube channel but she nuked it all. She was a SCH and was apparently one of the better SCHs making some kind of raid content.

>>11897977
Apparently some XIV players here have recognized here and have said "Oh HER? I didn't expect her to be the chill type of streamer at all". So yeah if rrats are true she mellowed out with the years.

>>11897123
>there's not much good casual conversation to be had when everybody needs to be focused on boss mechanics etc
That's the one thing I noticed when I looked up XIV ages ago. For such a narrative-heavy MMORPG, the G part of the acronym isn't easy at all. Like damn, I wasn't expecting every boss to be a cakewalk or every Job to have a 2-button flowchart, but holy shit.

>>11897349
On his initial few streams of the game there were a lot of people coming to disrupt the stream and cover the screen with big mounts. Some people got banned by the GMs for doing this.
That's it. It's been pretty much fine outside of those initial couple of streams.

>>11897349
>>11898573
there was a literal parking lot of people on giant mounts covering the ground in the first area outside of town. also tons and tons of screen covering skill animation spam

>>11895511
►So sure anytime Hololive gets permissions for any game it doesn't mean 100% of the talent are going to like it That being said (minecraft) more on that later

►Same as above okay we get it I don't know why she reiterated this, as for the someone pushing them it could've been YAGOO for all we know or Cover investors [but lets be honest it's easier to have a target that's popular to hate on 4chan and that's transexuals and since Omega has used the freedom of not being CIS they get to be the lowest hanging fruit despite EN existing in the 1st place because of them]

►On no I have to play a game to enjoy it ! not all the girls will play it for the story no matter how good/bad or long it is, Minecraft/Apex have no story either what's the purpose of playing those? this is basically complaining about options which is weird I don't know why you would hate having options.

►same wow you have to play a game for it to be enjoyed, Games are grindy wow, if people don't like MMOs or even RPGs this isn't a problem I don't know why she states it so much, Minecraft is also grindy if you're not in creative mode and even then you still have to build everything you want block by block

►It's not hard to figure out how or even how much of a game to stream or even when to end one like so many other before FFXIV, Minecraft has basically become a series Umisea, Summer Festival, fireworks festival and now the server portals of which we still are going to have to go through ID after the honey moon phase of EN server wears off.

>>11899645
Why are you so defensive, Omegatranny? Scared your dreams of forcing the EN girls to be your personal XIV guildmates isn't coming to fruition because they clearly don't give as much of a fuck about your game as you wanted? Just let them be, faggot.

>>11888879
So what server will they be playing on?

>>11897123
This is the thing you guys are missing. Unless someone hold their hand (Omega or Ina), they will just wander off and look at shit and comment how funny looking things are or just troll each other. It ain't going to be goal oriented whatsoever. Maybe if you had sweaty people like Choco, Aki and Coco before with Ark but noone in HoloEN will actually dedicate enough time for that. They will just stroll around and mess with each other's avatar. The seething will be immense but that's really what's going to happen here. They will treat it the same way they treat Ark

>>11896495
They should worry about Ame then

>>11890309
Someone, anyone needs to save this woman and put a baby in her.

>>11914067
Here's the thing (you) are missing: They don't even want to play FFXIV in the first place! Look at how deflated and apprehensive Kiara or Ina talk about the game when it's brought up to them, and then remember those are the two who are even most likely to play at all, so you can imagine how much more disinterested the rest of the girls really are. So all this theorizing about how they would behave in the game is pretty moot anyways because there's only a very small likelihood that they are gonna play this shit at all.
Or if they ever do, it's probably most likely only because Omegatranny forced his order through and/or bound them into some sort of sponsorship deal with Squenix. So you get the typical "shill stream fake enthusiasm" for however many streams required the contract is, and then they're gonna drop it again like every other mandated bullshit they have to endure.

>>11888879
Click bait?
Last group I was in was talking about the Amgus EN Collab to day. With so Tako saying how much he loves his priestess. I see people talking about them all of the time and not in a bad way since the people that play overlap with people you watch Vtubers.

>>11915256
Irys already said she's interested thus the article. Don't you know where you are responding to??? The most casual of all people is interested which means she will touch it for funsies to see what is up with it. Maybe people like Bae too. The most normie will check it because it's there available to be played. That's the point. No people that would have touched it would actually play it not unless Omega throws them a big sum of spons money and even then it won't be that bad because they will probably play it as a group with boosted characters to make things easy for them. To the normies they will probably say that "it's just a game, lol" which their fans will also parrot.

>>11892601
>final trannies coping eveb in /vt/
go back to r/asmongold

>>11896087
Chicken need to be around cause you need someone that can get autistic girls to talk and or doing things, you need the tard wrangler that is good at talking. Jp as like 3 I can think of and they are needed role when since Hololive hires like 90% autistic girls

>ITT