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11948516 No.11948516 [Reply] [Original]

It seems like Ayame got sick again...
Sometimes i think she's actually telling the truth all the time and she's some bedridden cursed with illness kind of person.

>> No.11948540

Doesn't she actually have a colostomy bag or something or some other serious illness

>> No.11948566

>>11948516
Yeah, sadly she came down with a sickness called my dick.

>> No.11948578

if she doesnt stop making shit up and stream, one of the jap schizos is going to send her to the hospital for real

>> No.11948659

>>11948540
Yeah, she has a prolapsed anus from the hundreds of cocks that penetrated it

>> No.11948737

Got dem throat cancers from too much deepthroat.

>> No.11948777

Hope she gets better. I'll save up my money to supachat her

>> No.11948778

>>11948737
My bad anon. I like her vomiting sounds.

>> No.11948793

>>11948566
>>11948659
>>11948737

Stop spreading rumours about ojou

>> No.11948799

>>11948516
Her boyfriend sounds like a nice guy, how about we supacha $100 for the boys?

>> No.11948806

>>11948793
If she didn't want rumors spread about her, she shouldn't be taking so many dicks daily.

>> No.11948819

>Same thread
>Same replies
I hate ayame but this is getting boring

>> No.11948828

>>11948516
She is, other holos have endlessly talked about it

>> No.11948866
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>>11948516
This

>> No.11948868

>>11948516
How in the fuck does her audience still believe that bullshit ?

>> No.11948948

>>11948819
>Your ojou just admitted she's hospitalized
This is why nakiricucks don't care about their oshi. They think enabling her laziness just because she's cute is her only worth. The one day, this news pops up.

>> No.11949036

>nakiricucks will defend this

>> No.11949205

>>11948516
>I couldn't make a good singing voice for a while
Her singing voice wasn't good to begin with

>> No.11949699

>>11949205
She is not Kiara though.
Ayame might not be the best singer, but she is still decent when paired with suitable songs.

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Watch her skip the sports fest now

>> No.11950508

You know she's just taking some time off with her boyfriend.

>> No.11951383

She really fucked up posting on her roommate account on Dec 24th as if some Jap menhera wouldn't find out about it straight away.

>> No.11951655

Several years from now I want someone to write a book 'Hololive: Behind the scenes' where we'll finally uncover the mysteries of what the fuck is going on.

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>>11948516
This looks like saviourfag bait. If it's true, this is just indicative of hololive being a black company dedicated to driving its livers into crippling depression. Truly shameful.

>> No.11951914

>Ayame haters
Bitter faggots.
>Ayame lovers
Happy people who are successful, decisive and well-liked.
Which do you choose?

>> No.11952166

>>11951914
*cums on you*

>> No.11952189

>>11951914
She's really got you under her thumb. She isn't going to fuck you, anon.

>> No.11952199

>>11948516
If you find yourself believing her just check her LoL profile anon.

>> No.11952375

>>11948566
micro sickness alright

>> No.11952933

>>11951914
keep eating shit dude

>> No.11953263

>>11948578
Holy based

>> No.11953434

>>11951806
Assuming your premise is correct, please explain why this black company that overworks its employees has allowed one of it's streamers to stream just 14 times in the last five months, with her last stream being over three weeks ago.

>> No.11953509

>>11948540
I think the rrat was she have Crohn's or something like that so she likely wouldn't just cry in the toilet...

>> No.11953512

>>11953434
she's yagoo's daughter

>> No.11953554

>>11953434
Her contract allows it, and they would be breaking it by forcing her to stream more. A black company would never accept such legal liability while the eyes of the world lay upon it.

>> No.11953703

>>11948868
Sounds like a better excuse than "they've cut my internet for two months, I've only managed to upload my cover go give it a like!"

>> No.11953723

>>11948578
Doubt it, they'd done it by now, the only problem is actual transparency. I mean at this point she has nothing to lose, hell, if she straight up tells what is wrong with her she might even start getting MORE SC.

There's a difference between recovering (Marine, Miko) and straight up having something that will fuckyour career if you continue (Kira) So if it's that bad she should prioritize health and graduate.

>> No.11953769

>>11948516
>Sometimes i think she's actually telling the truth all the time and she's some bedridden cursed with illness kind of person.
Have Ayame and Ironmouse ever streamed at the same time?

>> No.11953832

>>11953703
you can upload a cover at the office, anon...

>> No.11954116

This fucking place, holy shit

>> No.11954211

>>11953832
I think she said she gave it to manager or something like that but while we're at it you could also stream from the office/studio if you really wanted...

>> No.11954320

>>11954116
don't take a step outside the containme- general threads anon.

>> No.11954329

At this point just graduate and get better instead… then again the ez money

>> No.11954614

>>11954329
Condom money. Please andastando

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>>11948516
>im sick
I don't care, stream

>> No.11956421

>>11952199
link it

>> No.11957464

Funeral stream soon sisters?

>> No.11957626

>>11953723
>Doubt it, they'd done it by now
You don't know about Japan, they played the long game with Lulu in Nijisanji, all it takes is Ayame to piss off the wrong person with this,

>> No.11957706

>>11948516
I find ayame attractive and I don’t care if she’s gone for a month, she poop on me for all I care

>> No.11957979

>>11948516
ayame....how...how can i save ojou-san?
my savior.....

>> No.11958057

>>11953703
>cut my internet for two months
while she was playing LOL

>> No.11958201
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>>11948516
"health problems" is the go-to reason for any unglamorous excuse/reason to be absent from something in the idol world in Japan. This kind of works as a cover because the girls are very athletic and need to be closely coordinated/practiced with each other doing all their dances and such, so a twisted ankle or tweaked back etc actually-makes-sense for an excuse because the doctor might force them to take time off etc.

In the vtuber world? Not so much. Acting like suddenly it's a risky proposition to play video games 2-10 hours a day if Holos are doing it and you "burn out" etc doesn't sound so realistic when millions if not billions of people the same age around the world do that for free, for fun and aren't dying en-masse.

The voice going back is basically the only thing they can possibly lean on and I guess since most of them aren't speaking near their natural tone, that it can be stressful putting on the Holo voice over and over. For someone like Miko or Marine where they stream all the time and you could start to hear it straining/cracking etc it's kind of believable they'd damage their vocal chords over time. For Ayame? Who hasn't even streamed the past like 3 weeks anyway? HER voice is going out? From doing what, not streaming, not singing? I don't fucking think so.

>tl;dr bullshit, 10000% bullshit

>> No.11958357

>>11957626
Lulu didnt leave because any of them where particularly successful, but because management went overboard and wouldn't even let her stream while dealing with them, which would take weeks or months.

>> No.11958691

>>11958357
That's the point actually, since the person ended up arrested because they found her (or else police wouldn't care because lol its just threats!) so while she personally wasn't bothered and she hated not being able to stream, knowing a lot of cases like that not every girl gets as lucky as forced breaks, many end up actually raped and murdered.

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>>11948516
You know, even if it's true that she's ironmouse 2, I'm still gonna shitpost about her 10 bf's.

>> No.11958864

>>11948516
I thought she had an autoimmune disease.
Those can be pretty serious.

>> No.11958909

>>11958864
oh nevermind. I thought we were talking about Amelia for some reason.

>> No.11958971

>>11948516
swallower confirmed, bet her mouth is also full of mouth ulcers

>> No.11959002

>>11958201
t. not a streamer.
or if he is, he's a discord mumble "dead air" streamer.
Its funny how actually performing changes things from just playing games to an audience.

>> No.11959112

>>11958835
>>11958864
What is this shit, is this what they talk about to each other to cope on reddit or discords or something? No, she has some kind of gut/intestinal type thing, she said so maybe a yearish ago.

Even so I don't think that'd prohibit her from streaming. I think the real truth isn't that she's deathly ill on a hospital bed and can barely lift her fingers to play apex, NOR that she's at the club fucking 5 dudes a night telling everyone how much she hates her cuck fans. I think the occam's razor is she's just bored of this as a gig but because it's free money to do almost-nothing why would anyone quit. She was the only one who couldn't be assed to even make a 10 second video for Miko when she came back, she doesn't care about Holo and hasn't for probably closing in on two years now.

I suspect Yagoo just tries to appease girls who are on the outs considering graduating, because it's just a win-win proposition - they'll go easy on her and not hound her for ignoring streaming, she gets free money, Cover also gets free money because they get a cut so it's in their interest to try to keep her and any other partly-retired ones within the fold. It also helps prop up the projection of unity/cheery family when Cover isn't remotely as much a revolving door/fend-for-yourselves atmosphere as Niji.

>> No.11959123

>>11952199
To be fair, if its just throat issues she's feeling, then there's no problem playing games if she's not gonna talk.

>> No.11959208
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11959208

at this point defending Ayame is baiting

>> No.11959238

>>11948516
it's almost like /vt/'s rrats are a load of horseshit explicitly designed to anger her EN fans because trolling is a 4chan tradition, or something like that. and those that aren't are just the usual Shitty Faggots On The Internet projecting their own issues onto someone else because they feel better if they can mark someone else as "just as bad as they are"... with a side order of actual schizos babbling because they think they know more than they do.
>>11948868
by not being stupid enough to assume it's bullshit? I know, that's hard for a retard like (you) to handle, the possibility that other people actually do have problems.
>>11958201
that's right, your post IS 10000% bullshit. I'm glad you understand that, faggot.
>>11958057
>>11952199
>implying game accounts are tied to home PCs in the land of net cafes
come now, you can't actually be this stupid.
>>11958691
>the police don't care about harassment, only threats!
what thirdworld shithole are you from?

>> No.11959337

>>11959238
>>11958691
>because they found her (or else police wouldn't care because lol its just threats!)
You tried to twist the narrative, good try. Japanese police are notoriously lax when it comes to internet threats unless there's actual evidence something can happen. There's literal court cases you can look up that caused them to re-evaulate how they handle that kind of situation in the last decade.

>> No.11959552

>>11959208
seeing >>11959238

I'd be inclined to agree. It is difficult to believe someone could be just that fucking naive without some kind of ulterior motive. Probably nakirigumi, who are used to spending all day defending their oshi online because their oshi never actually streams so what else are they gonna even do when talking about her. That or Cover interns or wannabe ones who are pulling an emperor-has-no-clothes asspull.

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>> No.11959863

>>11959208
I don't defend her so much as question anons that get so mad that a girl isnt streaming enough to create hate threads and pile up on her, this shit can't be healthy

>> No.11959869

>>11951655
You don't need a book, just wait for Matsuri's next breakdown.

>> No.11959893

>>11959238
Dont be mad. It was just a troll bro.

>> No.11959902

I will sell her the antidote for 250 gold coins

>> No.11959986

>>11948516
she is definitily sick after all she is hardstuck in gold, after years of playing Lol.

>> No.11960052

>>11958201
Ayame is a lier, she should quietly graduate no body will mis her

>> No.11960193
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>>11959238

>> No.11960278

>>11959863
It's a thing for Ayame in specific because she gets a lot of praise from EOP clipfags for doing literally nothing, they just know her from hologra and dochi dochi - something she herself was just confused at blowing up, and was surprised is a thing at all - she said as much.

She has about the same subs as Subaru who puts in literally many times the effort she does and IIRC income too. The degree to which people like her / her popularity is not at all proportional to the effort she puts in and that rubs people the wrong way, like she just has it too easy and simply doesn't deserve to be rewarded for being demonstrably the most uncommitted Holo.

There are others who take long pauses and/or just don't stream consistently - Mel, Aki, Shion etc. You don't see hate threads on Mel because her numbers are not so great so basically it's an "all is right with the world" type feeling of she gets what's proportional to her (lack of effort), and people are happy to see her when she does show up and encourage her. She doesn't really give excuses and hasn't been caught red-handed lying like Ayame. There's a reason things are why they are around Ayame, those who have been around Holo for years are just sick of her and have not much good to say about her, those who are new and clipfag reddit children are not yet jaded and still stick strongly to the kool-aid Cover IVs into them while they're sedated with clips. Maybe, they'll learn too, but it could take years.

>> No.11960314

>>11959986
>hardstuck in gold
kek
Does this mean that the real reason she's straining her voice is because of all the gamer rage she's yelling at the screen because the jungler didn't gank her 0-5-0 7min lane?

>> No.11960381

>>11959002
>not a streamer
And neither is Ayame.

>> No.11960493

>>11948516
>m-maybe this time her illness is real
these people deserve their oshi

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>>11960381

>> No.11960655

hopefully a Jap schizo hides in her closet tonight

>> No.11960738

>>11960278
That's how these things go dude, I work my ass off everyday and coworkers and bosses praise menfor the most random useless crap I never cared about
Reality is just the perception of the masses

>> No.11960764

>>11960655
>Hurr durr I want a repeat of Aloe
You are not a hero.

>> No.11961077

>>11959002
Anon, xqc streams 12 hours a day on average. If it was that rough he would be fucking dead.

>> No.11961108

>>11960278
>she just has it too easy and simply doesn't deserve to be rewarded for being demonstrably the most uncommitted Holo.
In my eyes that's beautiful. She cares just as little as possible to make bank while making haters seethe. She's living the dream. Also bragging you spend hours watching anime girls being bad at video games instead of watching curated edited subtitled relevant clips tells me you are a fucking loser whose opinion should be laughed at. It's just a hobby anon. Touch grass.

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So what? let her be sick. I don't need to her stream every day, not even every week.
Anyone who is an actual fan beyond a surface level has gone through this multiple times before.
She'll steal the show at the sports festival and she'll steal the show in anything else she does, because she's always been and always will be the best girl in hololive.

>> No.11961202

>>11961119
Based Nakirigumi

>> No.11961212

>>11959112
This. Being in Hololive guarantees you make bank. Why would she fucking quit.

>> No.11961452

>>11961108
Clipfags take in way less than 1% of the body of content and are presented flanderized, clickbaity sensationalized accounts of events and Holos overall. From this they can and do form rather incorrect notions about them and what Holo even is.

Watching streams is a chill relaxing experience - you can literally just keep them tabbed for zatsudans etc while you work on whatever. It's not that hard to watch a stream, especially a VOD where you can just skip around (such as duck out for SC reading). Clipfags are presented this as some "whoOAA CURAAAZY KOOKY!!! She said WAHHAHAHHT???" type bullshit and that actually doesn't really reflect how the streams typically go. I think this is responsible in large part for how fucking garbage the chats are for many EN Holos - buncha 14 year old ADD kids pressing them to say the funny thing, do something funny, why are you playing so bad etc. Clipfags are cancer, very much a "fan of the fandom" type feel. For Ayame """fans""" who don't even understand a lick of Japanese they are truly, fans of -the idea- of being a fan of Ayame, and not actual fans who really know much about her content. The only way to not be a clipfag is to watch the damn streams.

>> No.11961494

>>11961119
>she will steal the show
True, i remember her team only won the last festival because she cheated.

>> No.11961525

Look at how Marine has been interacting with fans despite being unable to talk or stream with her throat issues. Ayame simply doesn't care about you nakiricucks.

>> No.11961605

>>11961452
There's a fucking language barrier you absurdly dense idiot

>> No.11961607

>>11961452
Will never watch streams. Not my thing. Stop trying to force people.

>> No.11961648

>>11961525
if we wanted some self-absorbed streamer that craved attention all the time don't you think we would have chosen to be a fan of someone else?

>> No.11961650

>>11959337
what an amazing country

>> No.11961737

>>11961607
Sure, you can do that, but don't consider your opinions on any matters on holos as being legitimate. You withdraw your having a valid opinion by doing so.

>> No.11961825

>>11961737
Didnt know we get fact checked when we submit posts like a fucking forum but whatever man.

>> No.11961835

What are some instances of Ayame being caught lying?

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>>11952166
>>11952189
>>11952933
t.

>> No.11963035

Why does /vt/ keep calling ayame a Korean-hating whore? What made these rrats?

>> No.11963130

>>11963035
>Rrats
This one is actually true. If you're triggered by it you're a gook.

>> No.11963351

>>11959238
>"just as bad as they are"
I'm flattered that you think I have as much sex as Ayame but I can assure you I do not

>> No.11963421

>>11961825
You get fact checked by me calling you a triple nigger clipfaggot when you post retarded shit backed by literally nothing on this board just because you saw the thumbnail of a clickbait 40s video, clipnigger.

>> No.11963538

>>11961108
Watching clips in and of itself isn't necessarily bad in and of itself, the issue is when someone who only watches clips claims to know as much as someone who actually watches full streams and sometimes is willing to die on that hill

>> No.11963598

>you mean prenant

>> No.11963605

>>11963421
Yes and what you going to do, cry?

>> No.11963752

>>11949744
If marathon runners can shit their pants and still go on then Ayame can do it too

>> No.11963883
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It's kinda amazing really how much feast Ayame clippers can make and get: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vspMGU5h3-c

>> No.11963952

>>11963538
WHAT DO YOU CARE ABOUT KNOWING MORE ABOUT ANIME GIRLS THAN ANOTHER PERSON HOLY SHIT MY DUDE

>> No.11963980

>>11963883
Oh boy, this one almost a million views: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7osCU5fk0r8

>> No.11964010

So she's going to go to the hospital and take medicine because her voice is shit? Excuse me? Is this the best she could muster up?

>> No.11964135

>>11963752
It doesn't matter if she can or can't, she won't

>> No.11964179

>>11963035
It's a joke rooted from her completely ignoring a nice painting Ina did of her and tweeted, which actually-happened.

That all roots from Ayame just being as she is - ignorant of most of Holo. Even in her goodbye message to Coco she was like "uuhh yeah, sorry we never actually met and I never responded to you for a year, oh well take it easy." She also totally ghosted Miko when she came back and was the only one in the JP roster to do so. She says it's social anxiety but I'd say it looks more like just pure don't-give-a-fuck about basically anything besides herself as a Holo, which she barely barely gives a fuck about to begin with. Kinda makes sense that if you simply don't consider Holo a real job or part of your life that you aren't too interested in meeting your coworkers there either.

>> No.11964273

>>11963952
If you wanna talk about them about background shit like this you ought to come prepared to talk about it. If you're that much a casual what does any of this conversation matter to you at all? Fuck off to reddit and wait to upvote the next dochi dochi clip like the good little stupid sheep you are.

>> No.11964299

>>11963952
That's obviously not the point you fucking retard, the point is that a clipfag trying to argue with someone who actually watches streams will always look like an idiot, regardless of whether that matters or not. Try being genuine for a second in your life instead of covering everything with a thin layer of irony and a "who cares about anything dude" attitude

>> No.11964400

>>11964273
>>11964299
Stop responding to the obvious baits you idiots

>> No.11964604

>>11952199
link

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>>11964179
Anon you wrote all of this and know absolutely nothing about Ayame.

>> No.11964677

I have not watched a single stream of this bitch. Because she is never on.
And I already hate her.

>> No.11964852

>>11958201
>Acting like suddenly it's a risky proposition to play video games 2-10 hours a day if Holos are doing it and you "burn out" etc doesn't sound so realistic when millions if not billions of people the same age around the world do that for free, for fun and aren't dying en-masse.
Hobbies stop being hobbies when you make them your job anon. Plus the people who play that much after 20 years old all become human trash with mental and physical ailments in a few years.

>> No.11964880

>>11964609
>believing a fucking thing out of Mio's mouth
>believing most Holos aren't playing hard kayfabe around each other IRL to avoid actually personally knowing each other, so Mio can just act as a cover

Same shit with Aqua and her autismal-ness. She said she's worked at a convenience store before, which requires talking with people and such, and doesn't even have Shion's real phone number for bare-bones starters.

It's all a matter of how wise or naive you are to all this. Sure it's a cute story that Ayame is a gentle cinnamon roll who would have a heart attack if you talked to her before she evaluated you silently 3 times, but I'm sure she's not actually-like-that IRL. Thing is literally nobody can prove/disprove it so you can just take the cute story as that and read between the lines from her actual behavior of ditching even these bare-bones responsibilities as a Holo but also throwing out shoddy excuses which only makes it more insulting. I'd have been happy if she flat-out said "yeah I've really not been feeling this whole thing lately" but she can't because that'd fuel a bonfire of graduation rrats so they have to go with ambiguous health problems as foils.

>> No.11964987

>>11959112
>first and second generation
>having to stream
they don't even have the same contracts as the 3rd+ gens anon, that was supposed to be a side job from the start for all of them.

>> No.11965193

>>11964299
Alright then. Seriously let's get some perspective here. You're claiming subject authority on the latest bottom of the barrel flavor of the month time niche entertainment is related to the time you sink in it, and use it as ammo to shit on the entertainer because, according to you, an expert on the subject, she's undeserving of such success because she doesnt care while jimmy watched clips and sometimes subs to her and gives her a fiver.
I mean come the fuck on irony is the perfect respond to this

>> No.11965438

>>11965193
Arguing in favor of literal dumb ignorance being the favorable trait to have is definitely not going to change peoples' minds. If someone has taken the time to become 10x more knowledgable than you about something their level of care is probably a lot more and thus their inclination to slap you upside the face for saying dumb retarded shit is also far-higher. learn how humans work.

>> No.11965700

>>11963752
radcliffe-chan...

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>>11963752
Holy shit, i want to see Hololive do a 50km race walk. It would be as kino as pic rel.

>> No.11965867

>>11965438
Nah you dont need more than surface level "knowledge" for irrelevant shit specially in entertainment. You just desperately wants to justify your hatred for something that's more popular than what it "deserves". Occams razor is a bitch.

>> No.11965982

>>11965867
And you're desperately trying to pretend it isn't messed up someone is making a living doing 1/100th the work of her peers "because it's entertainment" and she has an army of actual fucking shitlicker simp idiots like you defending it. Fans really do fucking reflect the oshi and in this case the only people willing to defend Ayame are ones who think this entire medium is trite and retarded anyway - which she clearly probably does. You can go ahead and fuck off /vt/ then, prove to me just how much you don't care. You'll totally win this last-word-itis argument bro.

>> No.11966102

>>11953723
Did they ever say what Kira had?

>> No.11966128

>>11948516
Oh no. Anyway ...

>> No.11966380

>>11964609
She's actually kinda sorta like that, not to that extent, but she doe's definitely not this innocent girl. She can say some pretty off the cuff stuff in members streams.

>> No.11966444

>>11961874
weird looking mexikan kid

>> No.11966648

Ayame has said before that she wishes to physically beat up people that say negative things about her. She dreams in her sleep about punching them in the face.

>> No.11966673

>>11966380
Literally everyone in Hololive does. That's what member's streams are for. Either way it's not like any of this will affects anyone but Ayame. She's already stated that her antis are just mostly people who would find fault with anything she did whether she streamed a lot or not so why bother paying attention to them. She does things her way and if you don't like it she literally says there are plenty of other wonderful Hololmems to watch. Ayame's cultivated a very strong fanbase because she's cute but also really lays down the law on things. She's adamant on what she wants and works hard to obtain it. She does things her way and her way only. She's shy but has strong conviction....or rather she actually grew thicker skin because boy did she not have it at the beginning.

>> No.11966885

>>11966648
Being mad at being calling out her shit doesn't make her right, it just makes her a butthurt bitch mad that not everyone buys these paper-thin excuses of hers.

I get the same kind of energy from Mumei, she hasn't gotten mad openly (yet) but surely knows a lot of people call her completely fake as shit and from her rage emotes and her overall being completely normalfag basic bitch taste and not really caring to stream much already, all vs her contrived Holo self, I can see a conflict on the horizon.

>> No.11967445

>>11961835
>claims to be in the hospital in tweet for why she can't stream
>is spotted to be actively playing LoL a bunch

Also was spotted playing LoL while supposedly the internet was cut off from her house. Hence people are like "it must be from her BF's place" etc as the reason she magically still can anyway.

>> No.11967610

>>11967445
You can tether your phone data to your computer and use that for internet. You can't stream with that though.

>> No.11967791

>>11967610
You can, moona streamed a few times from a fucking car

>> No.11967978

>>11965982
you are living 100 times better than some people working 100 times harder than you somewhere in the desert
someone is currently living 100 times better than you just because their grandfather bought something that got value
cut it out with the just-world fallacy anon, you're going to hurt yourself. The world is unfair. Ayame can make a killing without streaming a lot because she's cute, small, sick and inflates her value by being scarce, which is a cocktail saviorfags and concerfags dig.
You could work harder than all of hololive at once and never get close to 10% of their numbers by virtue of being a man and not wanting to appeal to manchildren.
Life is unfair, and if she's actually chronically ill she also has her fair deal of unfairness playing against her. Maybe that's a way to consider her life to balance out, but some people don't even have any solace for being chronically ill.

Get over it.

>> No.11968116

>>11966648
I want ayame's weak punches.

>> No.11968174

>>11965982
It isnt bro
She should be praised if anything
Given the opportunity anyone with half a brain would work just as much as they deem needed to

>> No.11968468

>>11964880
>real phone number
I don’t expect much from bait threads but do people here really not know that Mio’s use LINE??

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>>11965982
Getting upset for people who are in no way upset or offended is twitter tranny behavior. Let people like what they like. If they enjoy Ayame's content, they enjoy the once a month content. This is literally something that doesn't matter to anyone but Ayame. If anything Ayame's lax streaming schedule means nakirigumis are most likely to check out other Holomem streams since she always talks about enjoy other folks company, especially those she's close with like Korone, Mio, Marine, Kanata and Okayu.

>> No.11968563

>>11968174
Would you like it if a restaurant just randomly didn't give you your food 90% of the time and charged you in full for it, but it's really good that 10% something is actually-there? Would a restaurant be based for getting away with this or would its customers all just be complete fucking idiots who don't mind wasting their time and money? The restaurant may be based for daring to do it but the customers would still be fucking idiots.

>> No.11968596

>>11968468
You are aware Holos have Cover phones and private phones right.

>> No.11968672

>>11968563
What the actual fuck is this analogy? You don't pay Ayame anything to stream. You're acting like people are forced to supachat Ayame or something.

>> No.11968681

>>11968596
And LINE uses a LINE ID and not phone numbers

>> No.11968725

>>11968672
Her fans pay her $5 monthly for almost-nothing at bare-minimum. Some pay way way more.

>> No.11968745

>>11966102
He had the problem of being unable to keep that voice, he streams perfectly normal now with a male voice

>> No.11968763

>>11968725
they don't need to, people who pay for free content are retards

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>>11968725
>Her fans of their own volition because they enjoy her content want to support her
WOW IT'S ALMOST LIKE IT'S THEIR DECISION AND THEY AREN'T FORCED TO DO IT. Are you actually being fucking retarded on purpose right now?

>> No.11968878

>>11964880
>Same shit with Aqua and her autismal-ness. She said she's worked at a convenience store before, which requires talking with people and such
she didn't say she was good at it, liked it or lasted very long

>> No.11968904

>>11967791
That just means internet in Indonesia is just way better and faster.it doesn't

>> No.11969019

>>11968763
I agree it makes total sense to not pay Ayame a fucking dime for her complete half-assing of all this, but clearly many people are happy giving her tons of praise and money to do just that. This is the fundamental issue here, what the fuck is wrong with them and why are they enabling this shit. So basically daily you have people shitting on Ayame for getting away with it. IMO really people should make threads directly @nakirigumi instead of just Ayame.

People do wisen up eventually, tons of Matsurisu did although not all of them. Ayame hasn't even had that kind of shakedown Matsuri did yet and it's fucking overdue we basically have an intervention with the nakirigumi to make them demand more from her or just stop giving her money to do fucking nothing and go 'tummy horts' on twitter for 3 weeks of nothing.

>> No.11969082

Funny this thread went from calling Ayame a whore to guilt tripping Nakirigumis about buyers remorse. It's like there are people that really want people to stop liking Ayame.

>> No.11969177

>>11968725
>>11969019
you seem to be mistaken about something. you say that we should be upset but the reality is that nearly all of us (yes i am generalizing) are fine with ayame's conduct. Yes we all wish she would be more active but everyone knows what they are getting into by being a fan of hers.
She's never betrayed us or fooled us like some have. She is who she is.

>> No.11969206

>>11969082
People don't like Ayame herself either for the lying, or because she's wasted potential.

Her fans stick to her for her potential I think, hoping secretly that she becomes a serious streamer - as with her voice/model/personality she does have the formula to be a major force in Holo for real, rather than a nothingburger propped up by clips and empty hype. She's the big star that never was and people support this empty shell of a Holo and it's sad.

>> No.11969224

>>11967791
emphasis on "a few times", if you stream more than a few hours this way if you don't have a special contract (if it even exists in your country) the bill ends up massive, league can run on a 3G connection and would need you to play all month to even burn a Gb.
The simplest explanation is that she played from a net cafe, which is pretty common for Japanese people and explains why she could do one and not the other.
(anyone has a link to her profile? i stopped in S8 after 8 years of this kusoge but i'm still curious)

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>>11969082
That's how Ayame threads always go. It always starts with people going what a whore and then if it doesn't die within 80 posts it devolves into retard arguments and then trying to attack Nakirigumi, most of which don't really give a shit either way because they either watch other Holos, watch their oshis vods, or just do something else.

>> No.11969352

>>11969206
>People don't like Ayame herself either for the lying, or because she's wasted potential.
A few schizos aren't the majority. Most people (here) actually just don't give a shit about Ayame because she has no presence.

>> No.11969382

>>11969177
>>11969177
>She's never betrayed us or fooled us like some have. She is who she is.
She literally lies to you every single week.

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>>11969231
why yes how did you know

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>>11969391
I'm a Nakirigumi myself.

>> No.11969530

>>11948516
Ayame you twat! Do not google seach your simptoms. And stop sucking old mans cock, its obvious that the rich old cocks has a grit like grinders do.
>Dust, Sand, Gunk and Dead skin cells accumulate around the dicks girth and hardens over time.
That alone moving back and fourth in your throat will grind your insides and you're gonna complain the next day like a faggot.

>> No.11969531

>>11969082
Someone accused all Holos of being liars and that they can’t be friends because they use LINE instead of exchanging phone numbers and then doubled down by showing that he doesn’t even know how LINE works
They aren’t the smartest and will bring the dumbest arguments to make someone hate Ayame just to fail while people will continue to like her or don’t care about her

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>>11969382
/vt/ lies to you by the minute yet you still believe it.

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>>11968904
No, Noraneko from Nijisanji streamed herself rushing to buy MacDonald's in a race against her Uber Mcdelivery guy from a laptop with data from her phone hotspot while riding on her bicycle juggling her laptop, phone and her mic. She was almost arrested by the cops for dangerous driving. While Ayame couldn’t be bothered to stream voice only zatsudans to her fans once a week just to play LoL and suck her boyfriend's dick. You Nakirigumi are literally paying for her boyfriend's condoms with your membership, LMAO. Can't help the cucks who never want to change from being losers.

Pekora is still the best Oshi, she is committed to streaming for her viewers. She takes the effort to make every stream interesting.

>> No.11969672

>>11969531
those rrats work anon, i used to really enjoy listening to subaru telling her stories but since someone here told me she invented them and lied i can't even watch her without feeling awkward so i stopped

>> No.11969877

>>11969663
Once a week? That'd be nice if she did. It's once every 2-3 weeks now, get with the times.

Soon it will literally be once a month and Nakirigumi will praise her for it. Nakirigumi, praise your oshi who gives absolutely zero shits about you besides as a cash register and tell us you're not pathetic manipulated little shits wrapped around a clearly lying manipulative ethot's finger just because she has a cute avatar someone else drew for her and assigned for her and collects most of your money for.

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>>11969877
Yep. I'll praise it because Ayame cute. What are you going to do about it besides calling me names?

>> No.11970031

>>11968563
This false equivalency exposes you're either simple minded or inherently dishonest. I'm done replying either way youre a lost cause

>> No.11970059

>>11970011
recommend you see a therapist for being mindfucked by a virtual avatar is what I'd do.

>> No.11970076

>>11969877
>he complains that people are not expecting a random woman they'll never meet to give a shit about them
parasocialbro...

>> No.11970110

>>11970059
I don't know, you seem to be the one who needs a therapist considering how upset you are that people enjoy the content some girl with a virtual avatar puts out.

>> No.11970145

>>11969663
>She was almost arrested by the cops for dangerous driving
The fuck is this rrat nigger it was a bicycle

>> No.11970250

>>11970145
It's exaggeration for a shitpost but I don't see how that changes anything

>> No.11970322

>>11970145
She was riding on the road, it's considered an offense to be riding with dangerous stuff on the road. This is literally not a rrat. Do your reps newfag. Just 2 days ago she streamed herself on the toilet stuck with constipation and everything was heard LMAO.

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>>11961108
>Touch grass.
with just that, you reveal yourself as an outsider, so all your opinion is dismissed, and anons gonna hate what anons are going to hate, and there is nothing you can do about it, your bait is like throwing a glass of water on a building on fire

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>>11969518
Nakirineko unity thread when
I don't watch the holos much at all these days, but I like to make exceptions for Ayame when she's active.

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>>11963035
last year a man was caught interacting with her by 5ch in her roomate account, they were very friendly and flirting, later was found that he sympathize with the Uyoku dantai, an ultra nationalist group in japan, that's the real root of the rrat.

>> No.11972084 [DELETED] 

>>11963952
sure, you can talk shit of someone else hobby if you want, that's bait afterall so whatever, but you don't pretend to know more about their passion, that's disrespectful and you should kill yourself clipfaggot

>> No.11972141

>>11971128
Oh wow anon doesnt consider me a member of this super epic sekret klub?
The funniest thing is I first read "touch grass" on this very board lmao

>> No.11972185

>>11971922
Based.

>> No.11972502

>>11948566
>>11948578
>>11948659
>>11948737
>>11948778
The great minds of /vt/

>> No.11972754

>>11971922
so she doesn't cancel people because of irrelevant politics
nice

>> No.11972840

>>11967610
yea unlike US, Japan has functional cellular network with better-than-broadband speeds.

yea data cap might be an issue, but how much data do you get with 1 supachat? a lot

>> No.11972883

>>11972502
Possibly the greatest minds in all of /vt/

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What's the point of practicing hundreds of hours to perfect a choreography?
double cheking the translations of words, so there is no misake and more oversea fans can understand what you are talking about?
training your voice so you can overcome your trauma about singing until you cry blood?
inserting yourself in the otaku world so you can really understand the passion of your fans and friends?
and supporting other members forming real bonds by become friends and grow together?

WHEN YOU DON'T NEED TO DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AND BE CARRIED BY HUNDREDS OF CLIPPERS AND BRAIN DEAD FAGGOTS ON REDDIT AND BANK AT THE END OF THE MONTH?

>> No.11974115

>>11973171
Subaru still sounds like a yelling hyena bro and I bet she's fat
Cope and dilate

>> No.11974263

>>11973171
Oh so this is what this is about
"Your oshi makes more money than my oshi without as much effort therefore I hate your oshi"
Pathetic even for holosimp standards

>> No.11974830

>>11974263
>Oh so this is what this is about
as expected of a brain dead nakiricuck, he can't figure things out on his own, he needs to someone spell things word by word for him to understand, the world is unfair is shit anon everybody knows, just like Ayame.
Still nothing's gonna change regardless of whatever you say or do, and it seems Ayame is going to overthrone Kiara the queen of ME, in a couple of months

>> No.11974869

lets be honest, hololive is a shackle for ayame at this point. she has no need for hololive anymore. she's too good for them.

>> No.11974908

>>11973171
Pffft, idolfags. When will they learn.

>> No.11974977

>>11974869
yeah the whore needs to graduate

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>>11973171

>> No.11975098

>>11974977
t. Gaijin cover employee

>> No.11975100

>>11969082
I mean you can like Ayame all you want, but it's obvious you're a complete retard if you do. This bitch is grifting her fans harder than anyone else in Hololive, she simply does not give a fuck about anything other than taking time off, playing LoL and fucking her BF and it's completely transparent that she only bothers coming back intermittently when she needs more cash. If you like Ayame I think worse of you as a person.

>> No.11975154

>>11970110
>people enjoy the content
What content has Ayame produced in the past 3 weeks

>> No.11975174

>>11975100
Oh no, anonymous is mad at me, pls dont blow up my white van.

>> No.11975244

the more I read about Ayame, the more I like how based she is

>> No.11975277

>>11975174
Mad at you? No I pity you. You're the one getting assmad that you've made yourself an easy target by being a brainless NPC who has attached himself to someone who views you as a convenient ATM.

>> No.11975299

>>11975100
Still better than those that play Minecraft.all.the time

>> No.11975333

>>11975277
So we're looping back to this? Kek.

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>>11959002
>t. not a streamer.
To be fair neither is Ayame

>> No.11975389

>>11975336
Kek.

>> No.11975429

>>11975333
Looping back to what? I think you're missing the point, it's incontestable that Ayame is a grifting bitch, the debate on that has been over for a year now. The only thing left to do is mercilessly mock Nakirigumi for being the biggest cucks in Hololive and maybe some of them will shake out of their retardation in pure shame.

>> No.11975511

>>11973171
Society

>> No.11975545

>>11975100
I like her, i just dont give her money. She still gives me more than i give. Stop being payfags and everything will solve itself.

>> No.11975555

>>11958201
>A woman lie
No shit anon, especially a woman with loose anus

>> No.11975671

>>11975429
>The only thing left to do is mercilessly mock Nakirigumi for being the biggest cucks in Hololive and maybe some of them will shake out of their retardation in pure shame.
They wont care, you're wasting your time.

>> No.11975744

>>11967978
based statement anon, and a good way to approach a lot of situations in life.

>> No.11975778

>>11968116
She fought her dad before and won, which either means she's strong or her dad is weak as fuck

>> No.11975846

>>11961874
but that's you

>> No.11976156

>>11970110
>enjoying the content some girl with a virtual avatar puts out
Okay but where is it

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>>11975511
exactly

>> No.11976265

>>11974830
I dont even know what that word means, schizo. Seek help if you hate someone for their success. Simple as.

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She clearly has real problems and isn't just taking off for no reason. We know at the very least she has low blood pressure problems, she probably has pretty bad anxiety as well or something of the like.
For a board of Saviorfags you all are being pretty cruel to Ayame simply because hasn't streamed much in the last month.
>muh AyameCuck
Never donated a cent to anyone ever

>> No.11976404

>>11973171
>Whats the point of doing literally anything
For the enjoyment of it, art for arts sake.

>> No.11976501

>>11976332
>For a board of Saviorfags
what is there to save? Ayame's disintegrated anus?

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>>11976404
>art for arts sake
good luck with that

>> No.11976638

>>11976618
I'm pretty sure every idol at hololive is still making bank

>> No.11976681

>>11976618
They're in hololive. Even Mel is doing fine.

>> No.11976724

>>11966885
>"I get the same kind of energy from Mumei"
You too? They're similar but also pretty different. She nearly got upset at chat super early on, and outright says she won't read superchats that aren't at least of a certain level. But at least we know Mumei is doing school shit, same reason no one ever gets mad at Haachama.

>> No.11976998

>>11975511
tourist dont get it, they still think this is reddit

>> No.11977133

>>11976332
If she were to actually reveal them, it would probably go a long way to explaining her behavior and most people would be pretty supportive. But it's hard to imagine it being bad enough to keep her from streaming because you have literal bubble people vtubers like Iron Mouse who still manage to stream several hours a week, or Rushia who's so at risk of dying that she isn't even allowed to do Ring Fit. Truth is probably somewhere between her being a lying slut and actually being a shy young girl with severe health problems, but she won't confirm the latter so we just assume the former.

>> No.11977918

You don't have to look that far. Just have a look at this thread. Ayame will always be Ayame because she knows there will always be fags out there defending her regardless of what she does (not).
I say, if the girl can milk retards let her milk retards. It's their money.

>> No.11978930

ayame threads are the best

>> No.11981090

I am glad at least some of the anons here use their time to try and fix how unfair the universe is by letting Ayame have any fans at all
I am sure you can fix this cosmic injustice by posting 6 threads about it every day, keep going

>> No.11981095

>>11961835
On December 24th she said she was recording on her twitter, and then on her roommate account she was talking about how much she enjoyed going on a date with her boyfriend.

Personally I believe its fine that these girls have boyfriends, as it doesn't really impact their work. However, it's something that should never be disclosed. Why because holofans pretty much see it as betrayal.

Again I haven't liked Ayame since I found out about this shit. She shouldn't have made any post on either accounts on the 24th, blatantly lying like this was pretty wrong, and could of easily be avoided.

>> No.11981283

>>11976618
> Marine, circa early 2019

>> No.11981760

She want out of this vtuber shit and it's all because of kaigai cringelords

>> No.11981774

>>11981095
Meds
Even /jp/ didnt make up so much headcanon

>> No.11981817

>>11969019
Apparently there was such a confrontation between Ayame and her fans during her 150k celebration stream but that happened before the overseas covid explosion so it isn't known about that much.

Whatever happened though, seems like it ended up being much ado about nothing and whatever fans she shed were replaced by overseas.

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>>11951806
>dedicated to driving its livers into crippling depression
You cant drive someone into crippling depression when they already are riku-kun

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>>11976332
Saviorfags have nothing to even pretend to save about Ayame.

>> No.11983772

>>11959112
So basically, Ayemecucks got scammed.

>> No.11991525

>>11983772
just a little were and distanced themselves from Ayame, but the vast majority is and remains a cuck, because they choose to be blind

>> No.11992243

>>11981095
>reddit spacing
Go back

>> No.11994975

>>11977133
>but she won't confirm the latter so we just assume the former.
sounds like a you problem

>> No.11997121

>>11948516
Please die please die please die please die please die please die please die please die please die please die please die please die please die please die please

>> No.11997870

>>11967978
faggot

>> No.11998017

Still more believable than Matsuri's house getting broken into.

>> No.12001487

>>11948516
shame

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>>11997121
NO

>> No.12002994

>>11948516
She probably has black mold growing in her apartment.

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One of her anal fissures must have gotten infected.

>> No.12005026

>>11981774
>>11992243

Sorry but this page seems pretty legit. Its not my headcannon. And I don't use reddit either.

https://nyfco-org.translate.goog/nakiriayame-zense/?_x_tr_sl=ja&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=nui,sc

>> No.12008068

>>11948516
Sometimes 5ch is a great place to hang out.
>3 weeks no stream Ayame where are you?
>ATM did you just speak?

>> No.12009328

>>11948516
Yeah she's really having trouble with this pregnancy but she's determined to have our baby no matter what.

>> No.12014438

i cant accept that there are random old men having sex with ayame, i gave her all my money but she wont have sex with me.........

>> No.12014558

>>11961119
> I don't need to her stream every day, not even every week.
So what do you want? Do you pay her only for her existence? How sad is that? This woman exist somewhere in the world, you don't know who she is, how she looks and that's enough for you to pay her.
You are the definition of an incel

>> No.12014581

TUMMY HORT

>> No.12014707

>>11975299
By playing nothing none of the time?

>> No.12014751

>>11969651
Ironic post since Spamton was about breaking free from the lies and traitors who sell subpar soda on tv, while you embrace them.

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>> No.12019148

>>11948948

The anon is right tho. This board repeat the same thread and the same replies
over and over and over and over over and
over and over and over over and over and
over and over over and over and over and
over over and over and over and over over
and over and over and over over and over and over and over over and over and over and over over and over and over and over
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>> No.12020411

>>11981774
"Head cannon" was Ayame's nickname down at the glory hole.

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