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>> No.11998266

>>11998189
They are too big.

>> No.11998832

I'm not seeing the link, other than sex voice.

>> No.11998863
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11998863

>>11998189
and thats a good thing

>> No.11998964

>>11998189
Not even remotely comparable

>> No.11999015
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11999015

...how?

>> No.11999016

>>11998832
They're both blue.

>> No.11999100

Flat women only appeal to closeted homosexuals. Kronii is for straight men.

>> No.11999127

>>11998189
Nah, Kronii actually knows how to play Minecraft.

>> No.11999167

Unless she releases hit songs like her and Mori every month, that comparison isn't even remotely close.

>> No.11999263

>>11998189
I understand comparing Mori and Suisei but this one is just kinda retarded.

>>11999100
I'm not closeted though.

>> No.11999288

I'm gay for flat pussy

>> No.11999385
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11999385

I need to fuck Suisex so bad. She makes my dick so hard it aches. You guys have no idea how insanely horny she makes me.

>> No.11999393

>>11998189
They have zero similarities

>> No.11999394

>>11999127
No she doesnt

>> No.11999478

So Kronii is a descendant of a Russian noblewoman, too?

>> No.11999581

>>11999478
I don't remember Suisei being my daughter.

>> No.11999606

>>11999478
I didn't know my mother in law was Russian

>> No.11999649
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11999649

>>11999394
More so than Sui.
https://youtu.be/c22ATfW3ZKs

>> No.11999682 [DELETED] 
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>>11998189
There's an unspoken rule in hololive, enacted by the holofandom, which is that you must either demarcate your apathy for streaming explicitly, with some sort of verbal declaration (excuse) or consistent pattern (Ayame), or not be apathetic towards streaming at all.
This point is obviously salient when you look at the holo streamers with the most loyal fanbases: Amelia, Ina, Kiara, etc. They have consistent as fuck stream times and streaming weeks, and will let you know if there are any changes to their regular streaming pattern.
Mumei encapsulates this perfectly. She clearly has an excuse (valid or not), mentions it explicitly, but still shows effort and interest in streaming. She gives you a guerilla Karaoke after a long college day, as she is quite literally falling asleep from exhaustion. That's commitment.
Baelz is another recent example - she streams regularly and often, has built up a loyal fanbase (used to average 1-2k viewers 2 weeks after debut, now averages 5-6k minimum), and had a valid excuse (internet dying out) that she mentioned EXPLICITLY to explain her sudden change in streaming hours. Brrats are happy with that.
Fauna is the same: tooth surgery. Irys as well. This is why their viewership is so fixed and there are no massive fluctuations in their CCV (Fauna is, comparatively, Ina-tier when it comes to viewer retention. That's loyalty).

KRONII, on the other hand, has failed to deliver on all of these aspects. These sound pillars of good streaming.
(1) You come to expect a variable streaming schedule
This is by far Kronii's biggest mistake. A variable streaming schedule is a surefire way to destroy any viewership loyalty, as your fanbase finds themselves catching fewer and fewer of your streams until they just decide to stick to clips or to drop you entirely.
(2) This variability is marked by a reduction over time
This is a massive issue. No EN besides Amelia has actually reduced their streaming over time, and Ame did it 1 year later after months of extremely committed streaming hours.
Kronii? 1-2 weeks of frequent streams and stream time, then suddenly, after breaking EN SC and membership records, she just stops. Stream frequency goes down a fucking cliff. That's a big mistake paired with (1).

(3) No explicit excuse
With the exception of this week (a little too late, viewers are skeptical of how genuine your excuse is), Kronii has not given an excuse for her horrid stream times.
She has not told us about a second job, or some familial commitments, or maybe that she flat out just doesn't want to stream as often. She keeps everything under wraps, which is not only damaging to her fanbase loyalty because viewers come to distrust you and your effort into hololive, but moreso it represents your rigid adherence to kayfabe, to not open up to your loyal fans but remain a fixed distance from them.
Case in point: the bond level thing was dropped 2 weeks ago, after being mentioned almost every stream.
Case in point 2: Mori, early on, suffered from highly variable stream times, but kept her fans loyal because of her very valid excuse of holding multiple occupations.

(4) The jury is out: appears for more hours on other people's streams (in VC) than on her own.
This is by far the biggest knock against Kronii because it completely omits many valid excuses one can come up to defend a lack of stream time and stream frequency.
It is the fact that 3 weeks ago, during the big EN MC portal build, Kronii streamed for a relative 7h but appeared on other stream's (and VC) for nearly 10h.
Then, you have chumbats stalking holoEN MC server activity, and just what you see from JP/EN MC streams recently, and you can see that hasn't changed. Kronii is clearly comfortable being on camera (in voice) in her free time, and has a LOT of free time. Why isn't she spending that free time with her viewers?

Finally,
(5) apathy.
Kronii's general nonchalant and apathetic attitude, intonation, and approach towards streaming has soured the previous four points tremendously. It isn't her fault, per se, as long as the apathetic attitude is just a part of her tonic everyday personality. But it does leave a bad impression. Coupled with everything else you've done? Not a good look.

There are many other things to pick at.
Her failure to live up to her membership promises, for example. Her lack of social media interaction. But those are quite nitpicky, and really applicable to any holo if framed the right way.
Kronii is bleeding fans, support, and general good will from the hololive fanbase. Her own split has turned against her, and I am very sad to see this as she is one of my favorite ENs. Kronii, for your own sake, either man up to your lack of interest in streaming or start streaming more often.

>> No.11999948

>>11999682
All of that and you are still a faggot.

>> No.12000094

>>11999948
I didn’t even read it it’s too much text to me

>> No.12000463

>>11999581
hello father-in-law. Last night with suisei was good just like every single night

>> No.12000565

>>11998189
How fucking dare you. Kronni is 100% a beta Becky while Suisei is THE Stacey of hololive. Nene being the second.

>> No.12000669

>>11999682
What the fuck? Actual rational thought out criticism without insulting anybody, fanbase or talent, on my board? What the fuck?

>> No.12000722

>>12000669
You didn't read all of that, didn't you??

>> No.12000784

>>12000463
Hello my son, I hope you only did anal. My daughter's dream is very precious to her and it would hurt me if she became pregnant.

>> No.12000794

>>12000722
It was the best post I have ever read on this godforsaken board

>> No.12000827

>>12000794
Taking /vt/ seriously outside of the generals is a problem

>> No.12000844

>>11999385
That's gonna be a finna based from me suisex companion

>> No.12001345

>>11999682
Based and agree

>> No.12001757
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12001757

>>11998189
She kind of the exact opposite.

>> No.12001850

>>11998189
you posted the wrong Mori, dude

>> No.12001857

>>11998189
Literally how?

>> No.12002307

>>11999127
She doesn't stream, so who the fuck would even know?

>> No.12002350

>>11999682
tl;dr

>> No.12002419 [DELETED] 

>>12002350
Kronii doesn't (or never did) care about streaming anymore and has failed to give an excuse to why she never streams, unlike other holo members like Calli.

>> No.12002535

>>11998189
What does Kronii's smell and taste like?

>> No.12002550

I’m surprised nobody has posted the suzy pubes image yet, hoshiyomi usually immediately drop it at the mere mention of her name.

>> No.12002677

>>12002550
>hoshiyomi
Probably just hornyomis, shitposters or people really horny, vanilla hoshiyomis don't do it.

>> No.12002684

Ah, i get it. They're both sex.

>> No.12002692

>>12000844
>finna
go back

>> No.12002740

>>11999682
>>12000669
>>12000794
>samefagging this hard

>> No.12002840

Yes, both overrated

>> No.12003012

How?

>> No.12003116

>>12000000

>> No.12003278

>>12002677
vanilla hoshiyomi are puritan faggots that can't bring themselves to admit how much they want to fuck suityan

>> No.12003315

>>11998189
blue women good

>> No.12003429

>>12003278
or they are not disgusting neckbeards, not everyone wants to fuck their oshis

>> No.12003441

>>11998189
But Suisei streams?

>> No.12003474

>>12003278
Vanilla hoshiyomis are the ones that KNOW that she would be horrible in bed, she would be a terrible girlfriend, they will get in the way to her dream and they don't delude themselves into thinking otherwise but still support her.

>> No.12003656

>>12003474
She might be a dead fish in bed, but I think she would be a good girlfriend.

>> No.12003710

>>12003656
Some people in another thread explained it, but essentially she'd unironically be better suited as your cool buddy than your girlfriend.

>> No.12003718
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12003718

>>12003429
Perhaps those people should try not being massive faggots then

>> No.12003817

>>12003656
>he believes this

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