/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Don't watch them if you don't like them. Simple.

>>12080988
Yeah, it's kinda bizarre how Cover hired a gen where 1 or 2 out of 5 actually seem to have interest in streaming. Others are just whatever tourists.

>>12081091
>Don't watch them if you don't like them.
It's difficult to watch someone who doesn't even stream.

>>12081095
>>12080988
They care more about quality than quantity that's why. Other streamers seem like they've been putting much work but that's because all they do is spam Apex. Holos don't do that fortunately.

No, not when Gen 1 and Gen 5 had a graduation within weeks

Looks like EN Gen 3 is needed

>>12081148
Holy cope, that's a good one, I laughed. None of the Council has high quality yet and less they stream, less likely it is that they will get to that quality.

>>12081148
>They care more about quality
>Minecraft
>ASMR
>Zatsudan
>rinse and repeat
No, please, tell me about the quality. I'm fucking waiting. Give me an example of a quality stream, I'm holding my breath in excitement.

>>12081143
Should be no trouble then.

Kronii is undergoing menhera arc, she'll probably recover soon.
You couldnt find any bait for Fauna, so you resorted to her ASMR which is pretty good, and her regular streams are 5x better than those.
Sana is admittedly taking a long time off, but her dog died so its kind of understandable. You, on the other hand, are a asshole for saying you would fire someone instantly for that.
Mumei is streaming 7 times this week and streamed 5 times last week.
You are a faggot, this is bait and everyone responding to this is a retard.

What do you want to see from them? Other than graduate. Be more specific than "stream more".

>>12081214
Sana's holoscopes are well prepared and engaging streams. Global was pure kino when the island survival one was live

>>12081317
Shame Sana doesn't stream anymore

>>12081214
>Mumeis quiz
>Holoscopes
>Mumei drawing
>Creepypasta reading
>ASMR KTANE
>Minecraft Speedrunning
All of these are brilliant concepts for streams and quite a few are high quality as well, especially Holoscopes and the quiz. Its pure cope to think that this isnt a quality gen.

>>12081390
>Holoscopes
That concept is full of shit and so is anyone saying it's good. What's next, homeopathic Holomember? Pyramid scheme Hologirl?

>>12081447
>Pyramid scheme Hologirl?
That's Nijisanji

>>12081447
Yeah bro, Holoscopes is actual horoscopes for people, dont watch streams just guess based on the title. Sana really believes that astrology is true and isnt shitposting about it in those streams.

>>12080988
>If my employee would come in and say they need a month long vacation because their pet died, I'd sack them

You must be a badass Manager at HokBen

>>12081506
Like I said, you are full of shit, thread reader.

>>12080988
>Sana has been gone for 2 weeks (almost) and has almost the same amount of vids as mumei and kronii
Based sana
Didn't read the rest of your post

>>12081569
I've watched all of Sanas streams

>>12080988
What a waste of great designs, although i like the rrat but outside of her this gen is a complete disappointment

>>12081569
Pretty sure his post was ironic

>>12081596
Then you know that she actually is into that shit and is happy that people eat that shit up with her now, since in real life people rightfully laugh at such stupidity. I know we are all being scammed by anime girls but let's draw the line somewhere.

>>12081719
>Sana
>Into that shit
You must be retarded. Do you unironically believe that she thinks that you can be categorized into types of bread using your star sign and also know a decent amount of quantum mechanics?

>>12081764
Well, I just go by what she said. I dropped her after those comments so you can link me videos where she goes full on "it's just a joke, bro" because I ain't giving her any more of my time. I also ain't giving any more of my time to you.

without the rrat and fauna, this month will just full of breaks

>>12080988
OP is a faggot but he is right. And not just technically right, but really correct unfortunately.
After the debut I said I'd give them a chance but all I've seen thus far has been unimpressive and I see no need in watch them any further such that it cuts into time I could be using to watch JP or Myth and a handful of others.
They've had long enough to "find their groove" and it's bland.
Shame.

>>12080988
Council primarily sucks because of being controlled by a mentally ill parasite: OMEGATRANNY. Case in point, Mumei originally planned kino history streams and playing strategy games, but Omega banned them, which annihilated her character and left her stumbling aimlessly like a retarded grandma with severe dementia. Him trying to force the lore down everyone's throats created extremely high expectations on Council's streamers, and yet in a way that fucks with them; Baelz is another victim of this as she's forced to compete with Haachama and Pekora, while Kronii is actually a self loathing depressive who tries too hard to pretend to be a narcissist (you should have placed a real narc on the role like Kiara instead). And other more bullshit restrictions like the Coco-HoloEN collab ban which became a factor in her graduation when absoluitely everybody in the vtubing world wanted the collab. Fauna and Sana at least manage to adapt in spite of Omega's bullshit, but Sana was fucked by negligence and a poor design, and I just personally use Fauna as an ASMR sleeping pill because she's not good for anything else. So what does Omega do in his free time? Improve Council and HoloEN? Keep up with the times? Accept constructive criticism and use it to improve? No, instead he stirs up irrelevant shit on Twitter.

I was at first genuinely sympathetic to the plight of transgenders, but Omega existing redpilled me to the truth: they are retarded, egotistical, delusional, backstabbing parasites - no better than my original archenemy the Chinks. Unless this filthy parasite joins the 41% I can't support HoloEN (maybe except Ame because she is unironically a better manager than the tranny ever was)

>>12082054
>and playing strategy games,
there's no proof of this besides retarded hopeful wish fulfillment by anons who assumed "civilization" would actually play Civ.

>>12082101
note I agree with you about the fucking tranny, but the whole "she'll be playing civ/totalwar/eu!!!!" thing was just a pre-deb long shot

>>12082101
She said she wanted to play Civ during a zatsu or drawing stream, and said she was interested in strategy games in her debut. Based on that and the fact that she wasnt allowed to do natural history streams, we could reasonably assume it's omegatrannies fault.
>>12082054
Council unironically has everything going against them EXCEPT being boring people. Most of them are as entertaining as Myth (besides Ame) and have interesting streams, but they have shit character concepts, lore, managers, perms and luck.

>>12081259
>>12081091
>>12081186
>>12081390
Based
>>12082054
Hello GG or 2016 tourist? Omega is a producer not manager those are too different jobs you're going to have to find another boogie man

>>12080988
Sup Nijifag Fauna does ASMR only once a week maybe 2 if you are a member rest is either collabs or her playing games that hololive is limited to so your argument there is garbage.

>>12082245
Producers are still part of the command structure. They aren't just investors.

Don't care, Council is my fav gen

>Ayame of HoloEN
>Streamed 6 times last week
>Has 7 streams planned this week

>>12082632
Shes the Ayame of EN, and since anything EN is buffed, she actually streams.

>>12080988
This is just the state of western vtubers, Holocouncil represents the best of the best and none of the other english vtubers in NijiEn are even as talented or as entertaining as Holocouncil.

>>12082676
Wouldn't Kronii be the Ayame? Mumei streams more than her.

>>12080988
Im just their fan not a numberfagg likee you

>>12082622
Based

They put their psychological strength into streams, and many creative people have very few of them. A small number of streams is better reflected in their quality. Mumei is very sweet and pleasant to watch, I will be upset if she starts to overwork and burns out.

Hololive, despite poor management, have the best en vtubers that no one can surpass. For the sake of maintaining quality, you need to get used to a small number of streams from creative people.

>>12082245
Watch streams retard. Many girls alluded or even outright said that omega is the one making problems.

Imagine being a Sana anti
She's so inoffensive that you have to go out of your way to hate her

>>12083472
It's just a dramafag who is trying to get as many (You)s as he can with an easy bait thread.

>>12083472
>Sana anti
I dont hate her.
She's even more boring than Ina

>>12083472
Nobody really hates Sana, more like pity her. Screwed by bad design and managerial negligence.

>>12083332
>Hololive, despite poor management, have the best en vtubers that no one can surpass.
This is why management and the producers should be overhauled, and let the talents themselves excel in their talents. If YAGOO continues to allow parasites like Omegatranny to repress HoloEN, they will inevitably stagnate; look at how HoloEN today is nothing but minecraft after minecraft, while unique ideas (e.g. Mumei's original history streams proposals) are crushed. I bet Kiara and Ame are planning a Coco in case of such a contingency.

>>12084929
>unique ideas
>history streams
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbZQ4CbgWyF_Az1BszEwpcbqsqYksheQa

>>12085042
Literally nobody cares about 2 view nobodies.

>>12085075
cope

>>12080988
They are really underwhelming. Especially compared to HoloMyth and even IRyS by herself. The very fact that their most popular member is the most unenthusiastic and lifeless of their gen says a lot.

>>12081506
>Sana really believes that astrology is true
To be fair, Sana DOES believe astrology is true. That won't stop her from shitposting about it.

>>12080988
Just kys, man

lets be real, there pretty good vtubers in a vacuum but as part of hololiveEN how where they supposed to stand a chance. everyone knew myth was gonna do well but how could you predict Gura would become as big as she did. anyone comming after simple cant compete. though the council is still way better than kiara

>Entire thread is just anons throwing out as much bait as possible

>>12081091
luv me rat, luv me owl, luv me autist, simple as

>>12085794
We have this thread every day and it's always the same "does anyone else think council is... le bad?". Same op. Same replies. Every time.

>>12080988
>>12080988
LORE LORE LORE LORE LORE LORE. dumb as fuck. I can't wait for JP6 to debut and show these EN management amateurs how it's really done. Simple is Best.

>>12085789
Nobody expected Cali to come out with a debut song that drew in both weebs and JPs too. Still my favourite song from her. Don't really dig the others except that recent sad one.
>>12086087
Clock and Owl for me then the tree then I don't really care for the other two. Wished Owl was in the upcoming DBD collab....

>>12090291
We'll be getting NijiEN 6 before we get HoloJP gen6

>>12081719
>In real life
Anon you do not go outside to experience real life

>>12090291
Cannot wait for the Japanese to have embraced that kind of lore, and people who hate Council lore to love it, because it is Japanese

>>12080988
>If my employee would come in and say they need a month long vacation because their pet died, I'd sack them on the spot
Sana's not a wagecuck, wagecuck. She's a commissionchad. Wagecucks exist to generate value for their owners, commisionchads work to make money for themselves.

>>12080988
>I'd sack them on the spot.
Calm down she's just streamer, it's not that important

>>12090623
Why are all white knight sanallites thread readers? At least watch your oshis streams before embarrassing yourselves.

>>12080988
HoloCN, ID1, ID2, arguably even Gen 2 are worse.

>>12082054
>he actually thinks that omega is a tranny instead of just a guy larping as an "above gender" god

>>12080988
Honestly Myth is objectively worse as they actively made the EN vtuber scene worse and made cover try to pander to EOP audiences even harder than they were before. Plus of the 5 from myth, Ina is the only one who is even remotely talented and a good fit with other JP and ID senpais. If they got rid of the other 4, there literally would be no change to anything that happened in Hololive outside of Gura's subs.

>>12080988
>Is Council the worst generation of any hololive?
This is impossible because Hololive Indonesia exists.

The worst thing about them is mostly not even the fault of the girls themselves, but more because of Holobronies getting too high on their own supply in the lead up to gen2

>Wow, HoloMyth was an amazing breakout gen and made HoloEN the undisputed leader in the worldwide Vtuber industry!
>From seeing this success, Hololive now must surely have amazing applicants lining up to be a part of the next generation. I wonder what set of diverse, outstanding professionals we will see in the future!

And then the Council girls came, and they were just... okay, I guess? For anyone who didn't already drink the Hololive brand koolaid and thinks even a silent cardboard png cutout is suddenly the best thing ever, if it only has the blue triangle next to their name, can recognize that the "Cover scouting magic" meme was more just luck and has run out.

>>12094112
it was retarded luck that runned out with IRyS, who's great for none of the reasons she was hired + ugly model

It's always cute how people who don't watch Fauna always harp on the ASMR when she streams 6-7 times a week and usaully only 1 of them is ASMR.

>>12080988
Although fauna is pretty uncreative with her content atleast she usually has a pretty packed schedule

Yeah its true council is kinda w/e at this point.
Kronii did a 3 hour stream yesterday talking about her personal life and at some points sounded like she was going to have a joker moment, it was depressing and made me depressed while listening
Fauna does asmr and stays quiet in collabs w/ the occasional uuuu
And mumei pretends to be retarded
I dont watch ratt or sana, but i dont want to watch the ratt interrupt horror games like the KiMoFaBa phasmo collab

Meds. All of (you).

>>12094454
These threads are entirely made up of people who don't watch x pretending that they are an authority on how x is.

>>12096211
This rrat is just boring at this point, like, c´mon people we're three months in already, I know you guys can come up with something better.

>>12096598
Stop making blatantly false statements and people will stop calling you out on it.

>>12080988
>It gets good after a year bro! Trust me!
Yeah im not gonna do that again