/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

kuzuha

>>12249020
Proof you listened to it?

>>12249117
faggot

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>75,846: Marine (Hololive)
>28,062: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>26,435: Miko (Hololive)
>26,322: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>22,420: Pekora (Hololive)
>21,372: Kiara (Hololive)
>20,530: Gura (Hololive)
>19,451: Subaru (Hololive)
>16,705: Shibuya Hal (merise)
>15,532: Flare (Hololive)
>15,377: Okayu (Hololive)
>14,699: Subaru (Hololive)
>14,030: Shibuya Hal (merise)
>13,266: Aqua (Hololive)
>13,205: Lize (Nijisanji)
>12,729: Watame (Hololive)
>10,292: Ange (Nijisanji)
>10,214: Shion (Hololive)

>>12249000
Why you posting Gwelu?

I thought we were avoiding vtubers in the OP image.

>>12249178
Gwelu is more suspiciously "tanned"

Last thread

>948 Replies / 120 Images

Biggest # thread in a long time?

hololive events with live audience in 2021
2

nijisanji events with live audience in 2021
15

>>12249122
Bitch, I watch Moona's karaokes regularly.
That cover sucks. Didn't add anything new to the original. The vocals were overproduced. The music was ass as well.

>>12249218
More than any other number thread in the expired list. I'm too lazy to check the archives.

>>12249161
Nijisanji 6
Hololive 12

Not a good day for Nijisanji. At least there are Niji females on there today.

>>12249161
the pirate is back boys

>>12249235
I'd rather have no events until they're allowed to cheer again, It's the same as having no crowd.

>>12249218
No, vnuma era was bigger.

>>12249234
Stfu. Proof.

If you want the real number experience just browse this shithole http://virtualyoutuber-matome.blog.jp/
All they do is talk about Holo vs Niji numbers and track the daily and monthly winners.
and no foreigners can't post.

>>12249235
Well shit, Cover has less members, are far more conservative, and are just bad at putting out events.

>>12249234
>Buzzwords
Anyway this is a numbers thread so your opinion doesn't matter. Also the "coming at you live" at the 2nd chorus is different so
>didn't add anything new to the original
is not a factual statement

>>12249315
go back, takeshi.

>>12249276
not wrong, but when did holobronies start to care about things like quality and soul? dont be hypocritical

>>12249161
>GatchamanV didn't use his model today
>first time all week he didn't make the daily list

Coincidence?
I think not.

>>12249234
The original is ass cringe tho, so who cares.

>>12249315
That site looks like extreme faggotry in general. This place kinda takes the piss rather than that sort of venom.
>matome
Yikes. That looks like a place for general vtuber antis.

>>12249330
Holy shit anon stop falling out of your ass making excuses for them, Niji just doesn't care about coof so there's that.

>>12249234
stfu while I'm raping YouTube's loop option

>>12249315
>http://virtualyoutuber-matome.blog.jp/
>Every single image is the JK gumi standard pose

So you're saying it's shit, right?

>>12249161
>Pekora down at 5
rare

>>12249235
Holo cancelled several events with live audience. Bloom, 1st gen, and Azki sololive are the one that I remember.

>>12249406
>Coincidence?
Yes. He just picked b4b instead of his gimmick phasmo.

>>12249352
if you wanna talk about numbers only then shouldn't quote my post then.
Just listen to the instrumentals original vs the cover's, it's not even close.
And the vocals weren't that good compare to the original vocals. I wish they weren't overproduced so that the cover can get something unique but yeah, I'm disappointed.

>>12249512
niji also cancelled at least four

>>12249471
>Cover is incompetent
>BRO WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING COVER!!11
Christ.

>>12249315
>【VTuber】なんでホロメンはにじ診断やらないの? まつりとかやりそうだけどしないじゃん 禁止でもされてるの?wwwwwww
What riveting discussion. That entire site looks like a time loop.

>>12249532
Did you mean to post this in the Moona thread or something?

>>12249532
I'm not the anon that cross-quoted you so you can keep your blog somewhere else. Here numbers = good and 100k in just over 4 hours is really good.

>>12249566
>>12249570
then stop quoting my posts

In some numbers news Luna the former niji ia currently mogging the entirety of Nijisanji and this includes the "sultan" Ibrahim.

>>12249218
A long time yeah. We would hit the auto archive limit dueing the VNUMA era though (1500 posts).

>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - OCTOBER 2021

1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament
10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse51
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna
13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft
15) Naraka (Nijisanji) - 53k - 3D Debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 33k - Blazing Sails Niji Tournament
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.4k - Judge Eyes
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.5k - Summer craft championship
19) Suisei (Hololive) - 83.5k - Outfit Reveal
20) Subaru (Hololive) - 26.4k - Minecraft
21) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 63.2k - Survival Island End Stream
22) Pekora (Hololive) - 32.2k - Minecraft
23) Hal (Indie/Merise) - 45k - Merise Announcement
24) Miko (Hololive) - 65k - Sportfes Announcement
25) Miko (Hololive) - 32.7k - Minecraft (Sportfes preparation)
26) Rushia (Hololive) - 30.4k - Umamusume gacha
27) Pekora (Hololive) - 50k - Minecraft (PekoMiko)
28) Hal (Merise) - 35k - Apex Custom (Stacked Pros&Preds)
29) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.8k - Minecraft
30) Marine (Hololive) - 76k - Return stream

>Final deciding match for the end of october
31) Mel's 3D concert vs. Kuzuha & Gen 1 concert

>>12249235
Thats a new cope I guess. I could sing in my back yard and call it a "live event". That is about the quality of these Nijikek events anyway.

>>12248574
This is about to mog kezuha's original, hence the pre-emptive coping

Can Lunya break 10k on Halloween playing this 'horror' game?

>>12249652
>31) Mel's 3D concert vs. Kuzuha & Gen 1 concert
dont grudgepost me because I dont believe it either, but HoloEN halloween collab has a small chance of beating both, depending of what theyre doing or if theyll split povs

>>12249716
anonchama..

>>12249716
Won't that be next day in Japan ?

>>12249652
Niji Gen1 concert will be shit. It won't even beat Nijirock. Mel is a bottom tier holo, so the day will be for Kuzuha to grab, but if Kuzuha can't win 31st, then he has reclined significantly.

>>12249716
>HoloEN Halloween
It will be on 11/1 in Japan, anon

>>12249716
>split POV
There are few things a numberfag dislijes more than the dreaded split POV. Hate it hate it hate it hate it hate it hate it hate it hate it!!!!

>>12249652
Nijisanji will get double 1st place. That means they get 20 wins. They will win the month by that metric.

>>12249716
I'd put that in the "30k potential"
but the others are in the ~45k and ~65k+ area

Where did the whole "JP fans don't like, don't comment, don't engage and just dislike" thing come from? And why?

>>12249716
>HoloEN halloween collab has a small chance of beating both, depending of what theyre doing or if theyll split povs
no one thinks it beats these two, hence only Mel's is discussed

>>12249780
Mel has buff guest so expect 40k. That isn't enough.
>first wave
Chiro and Mito? I can't name any others. Maybe Hajime if he's still alive.

>>12249652
>31) Mel's 3D concert
Don't try to embarrass Mel, please. She lost to a fucking babiniku earlier this week. She hasn't got a chance.

>>12249706
My knees would break considering it's 2AM in Japan and it's a kusoge. Watame is streaming with 12K+ on MC tho, maybe if she ends her stream it's possible.

>>12249824
>Chiro
*Chihiro

>>12249285
Ah, the vnuma golden era...

>>12249855
It's the last day of the month. Will Mel with the forces of Marine & Pekora be able to defeat a Kuzuha outfit reveal? Find out more tomorrow!

>>12249652
Niji Gen 1 is comprised of has been Mito who puts up a fraction of the numbers she used to, and a bunch of literal 2 view shitters. They are unironically in worse shape than Hololive gen 1.

>>12249716
Here anon, to help you with your timezone reps

>>12249886
Why didn't he just release the source code and databases?

>>12249270
I will never forgive Marine for not sitting in my face

>>12249908
Nip and the inflated sense of value of their creative output

>>12249888
Just because holobronies falseflagged to grudge post over Marine's return that doesn't mean you should do the same.

>>12249824
These are first wave, JK Gumi still have a popular image, even if only Mito among them still gets good CCV.

They had a full collab a week ago and didn't pass 9k.

>>12249938
Eh nah no, I just want to see if an underdog can win it. My prediction is still around 40-50k for Mel, 45-60k for Kuzuha.

When was the last time Gura hit 1 million watch hours in a month? Feels like it's been a while.

>>12250022
This months. 1-25

>>12249979
the only one bringing numbers for the concert is Mito the other are deadweight

>>12250022
Other than those lying bastards at Streamhachet, who the fuck tracks those?

>>12250048
I mean prior to this October, which is why I brought it up.

>>12250065
>>12250064
https://twitter.com/holo_data

Kuzuha will win tomorrow comfortably, Mel has a small outside chance but she's just too unpopular to get a huge amount of viewers even with her guest line up.
I don't watch Niji so I don't know how popular Sanya is or if its widely requested by his fans but he'll get above 70k.

>>12249888
Kek. I guess you've never seen Kuzuha's outfit reveals?

>>12249908
some company gave him a not so friendly warning, he wouldnt risk it

>>12250085
Yeah, I guess so. I'm just predicting using Kanae's outfit reveal numbers as reference.

>>12249979
Elu is so cute. It's a shame she's a Niji.

Rikkun needs to rethink his strategy because right now, only a handful of older members can carry the weight while the rest can. Sure, things might be fine and dandy npw but who know what the future might bring.

>>12250022
1 Million watch hours equals 114 watch years. That's a more than one lifetime spent on watching Gura this month.

>>12250058
There are some people on that list that have lots of antis. Maybe they will hate watch.

>>12250131
More like, a shame she plays APEX all the goddamn time.

>>12250132
Nope, they can't. They might just be okay with <5k chuubas from new livers, but it won't look good for their investors when the competitor is pulling x2/x3 numbers than them. Even the new EN gen gets x5/6 the numbers of the new wave.

>>12250092
Why? It was harmless.

>>12250201
antis don't watch, unless they spam their chat, they just leave a dislike

>>12250132
They aren't really dead weight though, they still generate a profit with little investment. Sure they don't shit out noombas but they aren't a net negative. The new wave makes good SCs.

>>12250205
I don't mind Apesex. It's a good game if you know how to play it.

>>12249639
I’m actually surprised Luna hit 8k. It looks like she’s getting traction during late night JST

>>12250236
Nijisanji don't like losing

>>12250322
it's euros and spics time

The've been a lot of covers lately, especially Halloween themed,

This one though, with Flare was completely overlooked.
Probably because of low exposure, being too cutesy and that it's on Patra's channel, where her ASMR watchers don't watch much of her other videos.

>>12250372
yeah, the ch is always an important factor

>>12250313
Then what's the problem with her being in Niji?

She gets 1,652 average viewers.
She'd get the same if she was in VSPO playing Apex, and that'd be fine.
She'd also get the same by playing Apex in Hololive, and that'd be worse.

>Gura: Twintails
>Pekora: Twintails
>Marine: Twintails
>Aqua: Twintails
Why are twintails women so powerful?Even more powerful than blue women

>>12250439
>She'd also get the same by playing Apex in Hololive
true
> and that'd be worse.
Worse than the other box pushing activities she would do on Hololive, like playing Uno, Minecraft or Mario Kart

>>12250453
Lamy became the perfect chuuba then

Pekora must be the female streamer with the biggest average viewers.

Playboard - https://playboard.co/en/channel/UC1DCedRgGHBdm81E1llLhOQ - gives her a average of 21'066.

It gives Valkyrae 19'523. https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCWxlUwW9BgGISaakjGM37aw

Going through TwitchTracker - https://twitchtracker.com/channels/viewership - the highest average viewers female streamer is Pokimane with 18'465. (30 day average)

>>12250453
Strongest gamer Korone:Twintails
Strongest gen 5 Botan: Twintails
Strongest ID Ollie: Twintails

>>12250439
>She'd also get the same by playing Apex in Hololive, and that'd be worse.
That's simply not true. She'd have more subscribers (and therefore more viewers) if she was a Holo. Just like Luna.

>>12250372
Channel does matter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9wUbw5qevU for example.

>>12250236
Makes Nijisanji look bad.

>>12250526
Blue twintails are too strong

>>12249979
I don't recognize anybody in that pic except for Mico. She is the one with the black hair right?

>>12250551
yes, but she'd get about the same CCV, which people would call very low for Hololive

>>12250521
Guess she'd be a Roboco then, they debut around the same time. As you said, would do better for Holo streams even if Apex would be the same, so she wouldn't be as criticized for playing it, like Matsuri.

Wait...don't tell me tomorrow kuzuha's new outfit is female version of kuzuha

>>12250132
Nijisanji can't create new stars and this has been a problem for a while. Its like the long standing Niji fans are still there (except for Mito, the queen of recline). However, new fans are picking Hololive instead of watching the newer Nijikeks.

>>12250644
>Mico
Anon...
also you should at least know some of the memes

>>12250794

>>12250794
Hello Amamya from Nijisanji

>>12250734
Then i won't tell you

But
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trlVHJTeQxk

>>12250857
If you can't beat them, join them

Lets transport ourselves back to the middle of 2018. I come up and say that Sakura Miko, with her double digit viewership at the time, will eventually run laps around Nijisanji's Mito in popularity. How crazy do you think I am?

>>12251039
Heh

>>12251039
People would call you an idiot, but honestly, there won't be a case like that in the future if Cover keeps holding onto those 3D debuts for EN. They can stretch their popularity out for at least 2-3 years.

>>12251075
kek

>>12251039
ok look, Selen will be the most popular vtuber in the world in 2023.
Mark my words

>>12250857
i want to fuck king now
this is so wrong

When I first got into vtubers through Hololive streams I had Nijisanji streams recommended to me so I checked them out. I was immediately put off by the extremely low viewership.

>>12251075
pls stop, those anons necked themselves long ago...

I know you guys are busy with something. I went and checked Moona's other KDA. I am surprised at how open Riot Games is. I love them now.

>>12251281
getting a license isn't that hard anon. Cover is just too incompletent to get a western song license

>>12251039
I would ask you who the fuck Sakura Miko, Nijisanji, and Mito are.

>>12251269
Back when I didn't know what a Nijisanji or Hololive was I was watching Ars' GTAV playthrough and got recommended Miko's. Miko was so much more entertaining so I just dropped Ars and went to Miko. I do wonder what would have happened had I not done that. Would I be a nijifag instead of a holofag?

>>12251375
Yet, shit like this can happen.

>>12251039
As an Omesis chad, I'd ignore you, having no idea what you're talking about.

>>12251462
well, they still got their names there. What's the problem?

>>12250734
That idea would've been better for April fools

>>12251618
I guess all money for that video goes straight to Magic Music Record entity.

for those who dont know this Magic Music Record retarded claimed it recently, got a fuckton of backlash and already said theyll take that claim away, with a shit excuse and non-existent apology

>>12251799
eh if that's the case original contentID will appear (no Gura's name).
Here you can she they made a deal with the record label, so Cover will definitely get some money.
Even in Moona's case, the record label will definitely get a portion of the revenue as well, licenses aren't free

>>12250644
>Mico

>>12251875
how can they claim something they don't own (Gura's version)
here is a normal claim

>>12251964
It's content claimed and I'm gonna have to bring up reddit to explain this one.
also, yes, the claimer also uploaded the "remix" of Cali Gura's cover on Spotify
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/qipuo2/an_update_from_channel_creator_that_copyright/

>>12252084
>>12251462
>>12252121
ok I get it. This Magic Music Record is a no name guy who registered Gura King version with YouTube content ID.
This isn't legal anyway.

>>12252083
Based familiar chad.

I'm not trying to shit on her and yes, it's a "Delayed" birthday celebration, but still

It hurts seeing numbers like this for main Nijis.
Peak was 550 btw.

>>12252379
Just imagine that the viewers were in person. 500 people would be a giant wedding with 50 tables in a reception hall. Don’t let Hololive distort your perspective too much. Having a stadiums worth of people show up to your birthday is the very rare exception for those at the pinnacle of the field. It’s part of the reason every HoloEN went through their imposter syndrome/the fuck to I do with all this money arc.

>>12250721
What makes you think her CCV wouldn't be affected? Assuming she joined Holo instead of Niji, she'd have up to a million subscribers by now and her Apex numbers would most likely be higher than Towa's. That is assuming she did Apex as her main content.

Two things

1) LOOK WHO'S LAUGHING NOW!
2) What good does not overlapping if they're going to DO A FUCKING WATCHALONG

The month will end in one day and the numbers will be run.
Do you guys think NijiEN median will be above or below Holostars? Wave3 above or below Holostars?

>>12252564
wasn't thinking in terms of Hololive, pretty much every Niji JP can get 1k for their birthday.

>>12252637
>Watchalong
even worse on holoEN side. god I hope they stop that shit and do it on members-only or twitch instead

>>12252637
Current numbers. I can understand how a watchalong for a chuuba with a solid audience in the four digits can be rewarding to the most loyal among them: the chuuba takes a little hit in her numbers but, on the other hand, the loyal audience gets some quality quiet time in which chat is slower and they can interact with her more often in a shared experience.

But for a recently debuted chuuba? Are they fucking dumb and just emulating what the other girls are doing without realizing why they do it?

>>12252800
>even worse on holoEN side
It's not, that's the thing, see >>12252850.
I can understand why Amelia would do it, or even Gura
>smaller audience, slower chat, can interact better when them and in a shared experience synchronized by the movie

But NijEN? They should fuck SPAM their strong suits be it singing, gaming, variety until they ACTUALLY have an audience they can thin out with such perks

>>12252680
What are Deron's numbers on a bad day? As far as I know, she hasn't revealed her birthday, so it's possible that she gets shit numbers on her birthday.

>>12252637
And so the month has gone by with Wave 3 squandering their non-existent debut buff. To the dumbass Niji-Intern browsing this threads, here's some advice on how you can actually do your job better
>No more watchalongs. The new wave needs to be the focus of the debut.
>Extend the debuts to at least 45min-1hr. No more Intro 2.0. That's the dumbest shit that Nijisanji does and I feel scammed that I ever though short debuts were better in the long run.
>Don't even bother doing any half-assed collab ban. It'd be too obvious and not to mention NijiEN isn't anywhere near established enough that a collab ban expiring becomes a substantial boost.
>If there is one thing you need to ban, it's fucking watchalongs and donation reading. Ban that shit for at least a week. Let this bitches show that they're not just a bunch of nepotism hires
>Avoid overlaps for the next wave. The pie that NijiEN has is already small (6-7k). Dividing that between multiple livers will just kill any growth.
Do all of that and at least the new wave won't be behind the goddamn 8 ball imediately after debut.

>>12250058
Mito is the queen of the recline herself

>>12253090
Thank you for your feedback, we will consider this as we move forward.

So Sana is planning a comeback. If you are her manager/HoloEN manager how do you overcome the triple whammy of cut subs, niche content, and a month break during a critical period of development? Or do you need to? Could she just be a strong superchat vtuber with a niche audience?

>Peak CCV
A. Kuzuha costume reveal
B. Wave 1 free concert portion
C. Mel's live

1. ABC at 6/1
2. ACB at even
3. BAC at 80/1
4. BCA at 100/1
5. CAB at 2/1
6. CBA at 30/1

Which is the best bet?

>>12253236
Start from scratch and do hololive meta content for 1 week to recapture tourists, and go back to niche thereafter.

>>12253236
Start by having some collabs and let people know she's here. Also some minecraft.

Try to ride her for SCs and make sure she is good in collabs. Try to maximize what fans she has.

I don't recommend an unarchived karaoke as her first stream. Make it the archived one and enable SCs. People will be more incentivized to send SCs for her first appearance over her second.

>>12252379
Let her rot in Niji obscurity. She made the decision to join that awful place. If she was smart she would leave and join Hololive.

>>12253363
>Also some minecraft.
She was tied with Bae in the "interacting with JP members in Minecraft but not streaming" category.
She missed a lot of that wave, but there are still plenty of JP members who'd want to tour the server with her.

>>12253452
>and join Hololive.
Staffkun here, we are full, unfortunately.

>>12253264
>2. ACB at even
Most lopsided rate considering the high chance it happens
>5. CAB at 2/1
Best bang for the buck, considering it is not impossible and has a decent enough rate
>3. BAC at 80/1
Best option if you REALLY need to make a small amount of money go big (to pay your bookie back before he breaks your legs or something)

>>12253516
ACB probably should have been 1/2 now that I think about it.

Luna inclining by finding an unoccupied slot and making it her own

>>12253264
ACB looks a cert.
CAB looks a cheeky outside bet.

Nijisanji first gen are not popular at all.

>>12253588
game choice is pretty good too

>>12252953
No way, Deron's first birthday in 4 years would be a big event.
She might not have great ccv, but she's still very popular in all of Japan, as a member of JK Gumi and NijiRock.

Lowest was little over 1.1k for this BF5 Beta stream.
https://playboard.co/en/video/uZJASO6DBOM
Otherwise her CCV has been pretty high lately (5,698) because of events, tournaments and collabs.

>>12253588
Damn, if she can keep that up she's gonna creep into the top 50 next month. I find her streams chill.

>>12253587
Here to help you with odds. In this example, Barcelona beating some literally who while playing at home is a shoe-in. Tying is a possibility and being beating is as far fetched as it can be

>>12253670
And here for a more balanced game, where the odds of winning, losing or tying are more even

>>12253670
I think Mel has a better shot than literarily who over Barcelona.

That being said only 2 of those options would get much action. I'm not sure the best way to balance it to not lose my shirt. Kuzuha is a public team after all, I'm not sure what odds to scare people off.

>>12253776
I think you would get an even split on
>Mel - Kuzuha
and the sum of
> Kuzuha - Mel
> Kuzuha - Wave 1

Mostly because people would take their "flag" instead of the best option, and also because even among Holos there is no doubt Kuzuha would beat Wave 1

>>12253236
hereà my suggestions pool contribution maybe go full nigger

>>12252800
Peak CCV

HoloEN - 9 watchalong out of 216 streams

Mumei
>4.9k (w/ IRyS)
>2.9k
Ame
>2k
>3.7k
Mori
>8.9k (w/ Ina & Gura)
>2.9k
>3.4k
Kiara
>4.8k (Watame's concert)
Bae
>2.2k

NijiEN - 8 watchalong out of 250 streams

Nina
>381
>269
>424
>628
>896
Reimu
>374
Enna
>313
Pomu
>702

>>12253951
Come on, Amelia has one watchalong per week min for the past few weeks

>>12253951
*Last 30 days

>>12253588
>unoccupied slot
Well except for the obligatory late night Minecraft addict of each company

>>12253994
She did only 2 in October

>>12253998
>*Last 30 days
Oh! OK

Because Ame made it her safe heaven for the lazy stream of the week

>>12254032
Other than today Watame had vacated that slot for some time

>>12253951
Watchalongs seem worth accounting for. Maybe weigh them differently or take them out since they routinely get way less than average.
>>12253840
Wave 1 beating anyone just seems unlikely. for anyone but homers to choose. It feels like free money so as long as I get even money on ACB and CAB I will profit, even if it isn't much.

It's way harder to be a bookie than a better.

Nice to see Towa's heart cover close to 500k already despite the original only having 200k.

>>12254052
Wasn't she off in a break for a part of October?

>>12253642
>No way, Deron's first birthday in 4 years would be a big event.
It would be if she revealed it. My point was that her birthday is essentially just a normal day for the viewers since they don't know when it is.

>>12250453
twappi...

>>12250453
Migoti...

>>12254085
>Watchalongs seem worth accounting for. Maybe weigh them differently
Not the anon, too much work I'd say. It's part of their public performance, either the ladies do it on duo, or stop.

>>12254201
35p san, you have timestamp for her sneeze on her recent stream?

>>12254072
"For some time" = Time where Watame need to prepare for her live concert?

>>12253951
I was thinking about this, is Gura the most watched vtuber for watchalongs?
Even if they aren't on her channel, the 2nd i can think of are Miko's Twitch watch parties, even with all the buffs there, they're at about 5k.

The reason as to why is pretty clear, her fans like watching her react to stuff because she's funny, just want to confirm the numbers.

>>12254259
yes, that time... Since about End of July she's been inconsistent around that slot, scheduling around her prep.

It took a toll on her watch hours and average CCV, but she won a lot in other places.

>>12254243
NTA but 1:27:43

>>12254267
Pekora for raw ccv, but probably gura for views yea

>>12254215
Just multiply the normalized CCV averaged by some coefficient that represents the inverse of the typical percentage of viewers lost from watchalongs. We can see who's watchalongs add more value, or subtract less value. Then we are kinda getting into imagined numbers territory and that will piss off people who only want real measurables. Kinda like how people hate sabermetrics in baseball.

>>12254369
Pekora does have a higher peak for her first Watch Party and the Nintendo direct, but otherwise i think Gura still has higher average CCV for watchalongs

>>12254085
Watchalongs depend entirely on the chuuba. Usually they get shitty numbers, but I've seen normal numbers, and even buffed numbers before, so dismissing them or even weighting them differently wouldn't be right, imo.
Just because watchalongs are a debuff for someone doesn't mean they should be treated differently. I mean, should we dismiss Moona's doing nothing stream from a few days ago as well?

>>12254383
That would make this no better than BiliBili secret sauce.
One hour is one hour, one viewer is one viewer

>>12254334
Thanks!
>>12254383
>We can see who's watchalongs add more value, or subtract less value.
Piqued my interest. This is becoming numberbrainrot for real

>>12254201
Migo...

>>12254459
dont compare different platforms, pekora had a few watchalongs on youtube

>>12254530
Yes... that is why i added the Nintendo Direct.
On YT, the only other one i an find for Pekora that's public is the Ragnarok one at 6k
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/b2oIycPh9Qg

>>12254655
holy wow and it's paid. very low turnout for pegora

>>12254501
>One hour is one hour, one viewer is one viewer
Tell Susan, not me. Raw metrics can tell a lot but maybe more complex analysis can tell us more.
>>12254492
It could imply dedicated fanbases. I don't think it'd be bad to quantify vtubers into pure metrics, it'd just take some work but it would be interesting to see.
>nothing stream
We could also check for what streams are buffs for particular vtubers and what aren't. We can see the best specialization for them.

>>12253264
speak human language i dont know what all this is supposed to mean

>>12254511
>numberbrainrot
Is the idea that bad? I know it seems a bit dehumanizing...

>>12254966
>in the numbers thread
>can’t even read numbers

>>12253264
>Kuzuha's costume
You never know with Kuzuha's costume reveals. On one hand, Nijis never reveal their costumes like Holos do. They tend to reveal it all in one go, and Kuzuha has never cared about costumes that much. On the other hand, it's Kuzuha, so good numbers can be expected.
>Free concert
Doesn't last that long, and the only "big" name is Mito. Hajime is also a massive debuff.
>Mel
The longest event of the three, with multiple A-grade guests. Revealing the guests might be a buff, since now viewers will stick around to watch Marine and Pekora in 3D. It's Mel, though, so who knows.

Kuzuha is pretty much confirmed to get better numbers than the 1st wave concert, but if I was a betting man, I'd put Mel at the top, therefore CAB.

>>12255528
Hajime is not a massive debuff, more people care about him than Aki. It will get low views despite being 1st gen and Aki 3D debut because who the fuck cares about people like Moira, JKgumifags bought Deron, Rin, Mito, and Deonbu tickets already, and this was announced at the same time as Nijirock (which sold out instantly)
I have a feeling Mel will beat Kuzuha unless he whips out a girl voice, guests, or the stream happens before the cover.

>>12249652
>2020

>October
niji: 2
holo: 28
others: 1

>November
niji: 4
holo: 26
others: 0

>December
niji: 10
holo: 21
others: 0

>2021

>January
niji: 12
holo: 17
others: 2

>February
niji: 8
holo: 19
others: 1

>March
niji: 11
holo: 18
others: 2

>April
niji: 7
holo: 22
others: 1

>May
niji: 4
holo: 26
others: 1

>June
niji: 5
holo: 25
others: 0

>July
niji: 13
holo: 17
others: 1

>August
niji: 15
holo: 13
others: 3

>September
niji: 10
holo: 18
others: 2

>October
niji: 5
holo: 22
others: 3

Just give them a win

If Choco keeps playing Micra she will surely incline based on the level of amusement her adventures there generate. For instance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGqDTTWKYVw

A little heavy in the heart (and hilarious at the same time) but it is the exact type of content that will tie in into future adventures
>because if Pekora learns what happened she will sure make a spectacle of it by paying restitution or something

Also
1) Is anyone numberfagging deaths caused by UsaKen personel and contraptions?
2) Hensei surely saw better days in the past. Very few views

>>12256587
>August 2021
But they already have one, isn't that enough?

>>12256587
So Nijisanji are the Bears and Hololive are the Packers?

>>12256705
>barely won because omegatranny decided council to do a relay debut

>>12256587
Damn, October was rough.
Then again, that was full swing Minecraft ark,
with Akukin, Usaken, Pekomoona and the multiple return and costume streams.

>9,699 watching now
Ina inclining about 1k again now that Watame ended her stream.
I always knew they shared some part of audience outside of me.

>>12257121
Another example of illegal view funneling. Box pushing should be made illegal and punishable by death.

>>12257121
She'll probably pass 10k now.

>>12256587
Niji won August? Huh? I know it was Koshien month but I don't remember them winning the whole month.

>>12257248
Koshien and a 3D debut almost every week iirc

>>12257248
Kind of surprised they didn't win July too with how much they were pumped up those 2 months.

Marine and Subaru came in clutch.

A surprise to be sure... how many fucking Vampire covers do you think will drop on Halloween?

will niji catch flak if people who attended their concert started to tweet how they got 'rona?

>>12257698
>Niji fans (or any group for that matter)
>Tweet that they got covid from Niji's concert, basically throw shit at their favorite group's name, not to mention possible legal issue
Do you really think any of them would do that, anon? You'll have better chance hoping that the concert starts a new cluster and nip media'll blow it up

>>12249822
nijifags because their audience refuses to give engagements for whatever reasons. people theorized that is it due to tourists watching the streams. that's why the vod view count might be similar but the engagement metrics are lope-sided towards hololive.

>>12257698
No one is getting sick in Japan, this isn't America

>>12253452
>If she was smart she would leave and join Hololive.
why do you guys always make it sound like it is that easy? doesn't cover have pretty rigorous scouting and interview process?

Another 10K (barely) for Ina.

>>12257966
i mean, one way or another it'll come out if it happens. Hiding it will only make the scandal bigger. They'll inevitably trace the person's movements to that concert and have to follow up on everyone there.

>>12256587
>October 2020
>niji: 2
>holo: 28
>others: 1

>October 2021
niji: 5
holo: 22
others: 3

Holo with that massive as fuck decline. How can we save them, bros? Should we lay low a bit?

>>12258339
Yes. Just walk up to YAGOO, look him in the eye, give him a firm handshake, and tell him you want to be part of his company.

>>12258512
knowing Yagoo, who knows, it might just work because he's a quirky ojisan

>>12258512
You've Got Guts Kid, I'll Give You That

>>12258512
The only Holos I can imagine having a firm handshake are Nene and Korone.

>>12258730
maybe that's how Nene got in after numerous attempts

>>12249261
Hal isn't Niji no matter how much you fags want to push it.
He's not even indie anymore

>>12257698
Will you do this yourself anon? Run it through deepL or something?

>>12250857
Between Kuzuha being a vampire + meme female cover, this has potential to get 400k in a day imo.
Not even falseflagging, this feels big.

>>12258773
>numerous attempts
Nene got in on the first attempt. She sent multiple applications because she thought it would improve her odds, but she still got in on the first attempt.

>>12250857
>25k likes 12 hours before premiere
Between Kuzuha being a vampire + meme female cover, this has potential to get 400k in a day imo.
His viewers are going to be funneled to it after his stream too.
Not even falseflagging, this feels big.

>>12258918
no, because I'm not schizo. I just wanted to know how bad will it be for niji if that were to happen

>>12259464
>Vampire
>King
Yeah, no shit anon. This would be in the ballpark of Gura covering Baby Shark during Shark Week.

>>12259546
Didn't a niji already get covid?
Meanwhile Holos have a 0% infection rate. (ID shithole country doesn't count).
Just goes to show the precautions they have and how Cover takes covid seriously.

>>12260011
to be fair, a jp holo getting covid would have much bigger effects than a random niji getting it.

>>12260011
yeah, they even force the holos to take the vaccine

>>12260204
its was Honma Himawari, not a 2view one

>>12259546
>>12260011
Numberfagging covid infection rates. Any epidemiologists?

>>12259464
might be another 10 mil contender

>>12259546
Maybe schizo will take your idea and go to twitter

>>12252084
>>12252121
Just a follow-up, looks like they got their asschecks clapped and have this posted in the vid description now.

"Attention everyone!

The track is deleted and the application Content ID is also deleted.

We have sent requests to all sites for deletion, it will take from 5 to 10 days.

We cannot influence and make them all at once.

We apologize to everyone!

In this video track - Kanaria, Gawr Gura, Calliope Mori - KING (Remix vrtix) (Official Music Video) DELETED"

>>12259863
>>12260624
Makes me wonder if anons shitpost and then grudgepost themselves.
There were so many posts shitting on Kuzuha for losing to Miko by a few hundred and saying he's reclining, but unless they're living under a rock, these fags know he's favored to win and get a ridiculous number today right?

>>12261007
Reminds me of being a kid and resting my foot in some soft dirt, which ended up being an anthill.
First few stings wake you up then all you want is to make it stop.

>>12252121

Kiara Vampire Cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x86wabH-Qs

Predictions?

>>12260411
All Nijisanji females are basically 2views. Such is the way of Manjisanji.

>>12259464
It will flop just like his original. What a massive flop that turned out to be.

>>12261237
Unironically more than Kuzushit's version.

>>12261464
Stop falseflagging

>>12261007

>>12261265
Don't you diss honorary Holo...

>>12261237
Kiara usually gets 150-200k on the first day, so around there.
It will look bad since Kuzuha's cover is released on the same day and it'll blow hers out of the water in terms of numbers.

>>12261643
All of Kiara's originals have performed much much better than Kuzushit's original. You have no basis for this statement. Kiara's version will do better because nobody cares about Kuzushit.

>>12261007
What did he expect would happen?

>he says, while preparing a “NO NO NO NO NO KFP, WHAT WENT WRONG” shitpost

>>12261722
Fuck off, retard.

>>12261811
I'll accept your concession.

>>12261806
>1.2 mil sub FEMALE loses to 1.08 mil sub MALE covering the same song
> how could we let this happen holobros?

>>12261643
Don't they have the similar subscriber count?
And Kiara gets a lot of views on her songs.
Her original songs are all past 1 million views.
Meanwhile, Kuzuha has no original song over 1M. It's all just covers.

>>12261722
I suspect Kuzeha will have higher early numbers and Kiara will catch and surpass him

>>12261966
>It's all just covers
Good thing he's releasing a Vampire cover then

>>12261966
Yeah, this is what I've been trying to say. KING got caught in the algorithm and was a lucky break. All his other songs have preformed pretty terribly while all of Kiara's songs have performed well.

We're talking about viewers/subscribers now? I thought it wasn't allowed in this thread.

>>12262078
>All his other songs have preformed pretty terribly
Should've stuck to talking about his original.
He only has 4 covers and they're all over 6 mil.
Not to mention, he has the most viewed Turing Love cover.

>>12262505
>6 million
Those are pretty pedestrian numbers. Hololive covers destroy that number.

>>12262505
You'd think that if you were gonna shitpost you'd at least do your research to make sure your shit isn't super-easily debunked...

Too many retard posters here that I'm not surprised to see self grudgepost later on

>>12262604
No need to reaserch at all when there's suckers like you who fact check posts for me

>>12262977
Fuck off, you inbred retard

>11.3k
can Ame beat Fauna`s karaoke now?? Or do we have a new queen of SOVL?

>>12263357
And IRyS after Ame.

>>12263403
Irys is too good at it though, fauna x ame is fairer

>>12262596
Stop falseflagging. 6 million is a great number even within Hololive

Anyone else notice a sharp rise in people posting idiotic things while pretending to be part of a fanbase they're not actually a part of? This seems like a new phenomena in these threads.

>>12263357
Ame will beat Fauna, but both will likely lose to Irys.
Pretty funny actually that it's in ascending order of singing ability too.

>>12263738
Falseflagging is not really a new thing, I just felt like correcting bait today cuz I'm bored.
My bad guys.

>>12263531
Holo 30 songs ( originals + covers) over 6M (Oct 1)

>>12263509
IRyS will beat Fauna but not Ame. IRyS is overlapped by Kronii and Mori's members karaoke. IRyS shares a decent overlap with Mori's members due to timezone and their collabs. Also karaoke from IRyS even if unarchived is not much of a special occasion.

>>12264006
Sorry meant Mori's members ASMR. Karaoke on the brain today.

>>12249161
Senchou is back and ready to crush all competition

>>12253236
Do something similar to Miko's return stream where you have every EN member record some message for her return.

>>12254492
What movie they pick also has an effect on what numbers they can get.

So today total CCV Among Us + Mel 3D > Kuzuha + free concert part
because it's end of the month let's use total CCV for closing the month guys

>>12264414
dont forget splatoon lottery on ex albios ch. thats 20k - 40k atleast.

>>12264521
It's kind of an orgy tomorrow. I wonder how'd it be if we stacked all of Nijisanji vs all of Hololive.

>>12264562
>I wonder how'd it be if we stacked all of Nijisanji vs all of Hololive.
thats koshien vs coco graduation

>>12264266
Watchalongs aren't limited to just movies. You can watch movies, series, events, or even other vtubers.
You can also boost your numbers by actually streaming what you're watching, if you're ballsy enough.

>>12263738
I've definitely notice a sharp rise of "anyone else" posts

>>12264907
Looking at how much Mio and Subaru got watching Hologra, they'd be great during reaction meta, but it's not something the Japanese do much, mostly Coco and Haachama.

[Interesting News] End of a Life and Unison hit 3 million after pretty much the same amount of time (26 days).

>>12264521
Niji is doing a Splatoon tournament too?

lol people always ask what is the advantage of flooding the market with vtubers and this is one.
Easy to schedule tournaments since 50 of your talents are 2views with nothing better to do anyways so you only need 5-6 top Nijis and 20 literally whos to set up a tournament and generate hype.

>>12264759
More like Koshien vs MiCra Sportsfest
Graduation is too much of a buff in itself

>>12263531
>muh 6 million
Kiara knows those are rookie numbers

Hmm, I'll be interested to see what happens. Last week Towa did a watchalong for the apex pro tournament ALGS, got around 3k watching however this time, she's gotten permission to mirror the stream while last time was the standard offstream.
https://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1454602468122263557

damn ame you gonna make vsinger karaoke number look a bit embarrassing..

>>12270041
last IRyS unarchived non-member karaoke was last month, that peaked 17.4k. She still has a chance

>>12270041
IRyS will overlap two other EN streams, and some JP streams at the one hour mark. Ame has the timeslot to herself.

>FOTM
>Birthday buff
>Lore buff
>Halloween novelty buff
>Female persona buff
You cannot ask for a better combination of buffs for a song release. If Kuzuha's Vampire does not reach 1m views in under 3 days it's 100% a failure

>>12269979
This one i'd be interested to watch now

>>12270437
It's mixed by Soraru too, Mafumafu's butt buddy, a big utaite, and the one who mixed his King cover.
It'll be the biggest Niji cover in a while, that's for sure.

>>12270437
Finally something to challenge either Ayame good bye sengen or Calli Gura King

>>12270437
>FOTM
It was that maybe half a year ago. Kuzuha should really up his numberfag game.

>>12271237
I'm curious how fast is Kuzuha's KING to reach 10m

>>12270234
I honestly don't care. Irys so far has the best Karaokes in EN that can sing that doesn't repeat songs over and over because they can't find the time to learn anything new. I like Irys a lot and she does stuff like these that do hurt her numbers. I actually thought she would do this at night time her time to avoid clashing but she just pushed it an hour her regular time because Ame took her slot. The girl doesn't know how to numberfag

>>12271557
She's streaming in her normal timeslot that she shares with Calli. Kronii just recently decided to move all her streams going forward into that timeslot as well.

>>12271526
>89 days
newfag

>>12271720
Even so, she should have done this karaoke at night her time because she's going to clash with so many people. I think her last 2 karaokes also had the same problem where she just didn't care. I mean she still got decent numbers at about 9k+.

>>12272000
At night her time is JP primetime and she will clash with even more. A lot of JPs watch EN karaokes.

>>12271557
Today's night time would be really crowded though.

It would be funny if this cover launches him to become big in the global market. A catalyst like Fubuki's Scatman.

>>12272122
>not even a meme song
not gonna happen

>>12272071
10PM JST is the right slot. That is right after the amongus collab, flare singing and korone shilling her game. She will be the only EN that will take the EN audience that are awake.

>>12271449
True. Maybe I should have said popular song instead.

>>12272122
The only way it would do that is if it gets 100M views or something. His King cover got him a lot of views too so I don't know what you are talking about

>>12272122
Don't know if you are the original anon >>10532500 but thanks for giving me a laugh with this prediction in the reply >>10533317

>>12272122
>song that literally nobody outside nipland knows
if it was like renai circulation then sure maybe

>>12272122
No. That isn’t happening.

>>12272122
If it went viral in Tiktok maybe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IND6zn6kTJY
>70k views per week pace for the 2nd half of October
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_89otvkb1EA
>Literally Sparks tier
Maybe if Kuzuha spams "Stream Contrail" in his streams it might get more than 100k views a week.

Nijisanji 1m

1. KING - Kuzuha (4 Days) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPAcjv__fbc

2. Summertime Record - AXF (4 Days) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccz4yLqlzPA

3. Memeshikute - Nijisanji (6 Days) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDb7PGB5kc4

4. Monster - Fuwa Minato x Saegusa Akina (6 Days) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNswz1kQUFo

5. Turing Love - Aiba Uiha x Mayuzumi Kai (6 Days) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utXWdobfbwQ

6. Vampire - Ange Katrina (7 Days) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHXB1xp-xXc

7. SUGAR HATE - ChroNoiR ( 9 Days) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNgVknQ69cc

8. VOLTAGE - Rain Drops (11 Days) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNCMXcP6AYE

9. Turing Love - Honma Himawari x Kuzuha (12 Days) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek840SVER7c

10. Virtual Strike - Nijisanji (12 Days) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsu5VIXRC48

11. Phony - Machita Chima (12 Days) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9Eewd8TEWE

12. Unknown Mother-Goose - Kenmochi Toya (13 Days) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA8vzvYiIyo

13. Entertainer - Rain Drops (13 Days) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuKGfoREGeg

14. Black Out - OBSYDIA (13 Days) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-V0EHF30rk

15. Outsider - ChroNoiR (14 Days) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElrslcJTaAk

>>12273533
how many does holo have?

>>12273571
see >>10533317

>>12273571
>>12273627
That list is outdated. 67 songs updated on 10/28

1. REFLECT (Gawr Gura) - 10 hours (29m)
2. KING (Gura and Mori) - 11 hours (36m)
3. UNISON (Houshou Marine) - 39 hours
4. Off With Their Heads (Mori Calliope) - 45 hours
5. Roki (Mori Calliope) - 2 Days (0h 26m)
6. Goodbye Sengen (Nakiri Ayame) - 2 Days (14h 51m)
7. Kiseki Knot (4th Gen) - 2 Days (17h 0m)
8. Can You Do the Hololive? (All members) - 3 Days
9. Hololive Ochame Kinou (All members) - 3 Days
10. end of a life (Calliope Mori) - 3 days (9h 50m) **NEW**
11. GETCHA! (Suisei and Mori) - 4 Days (1h 45m)
12. RIP (Mori Calliope) - 5 Days
13. KING (Nakiri Ayame) - 5 Days
14. Goodbye Sengen (Minato Aqua) - 5 Days
15. KING (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 5 Days
16. Red (Mori Calliope) - 6 Days
17. Peko Miko War (Miko and Pekora) - 6 Days
18. Goodbye Sengen (Takanashi Kiara) - 6 Days (18h 37m)
19. Sorairo Days (Matsuri and Gura) - 7 Days
20. Ijimekko Bully (Mori Calliope) - 8 Days (10h 1m)
21. Umapyoi Densetsu (Aqua/Fubuki/Mio/Rushia/Marine/Kanata) - 8 days (13h 43m) **NEW**
22. Goodbye Sengen (Uruha Rushia) - 8 Days (17h 6m)
23. Fansa (Kiryu Coco) - 8 days (18h 0m)
24. Violet (Ninomae Ina'nis) - 9 Days (13h 40m)
25. The Grim Reaper is a Live Streamer (Mori Calliope) - 9 Days (13h 54m)
26. Mogu Mogu Yummy! (Nekomata Okayu) - 10 Days
27. Vampire (Minato Aqua) - 10 days
28. Turing Love (Moona and Pekora - 10 Days (0h 24m)
29. Bluerose (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 10 Days (3h 37m)
30. Ghost (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 11 Days
31. Envy Baby (Mori Calliope) - 11 Days (21h 3m)
32. Stellar Stellar (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 12 Days (14h 41m) **NEW**
33. DEAD BEATS (Mori Calliope) - 13 Days
34. Saga Jihen (Suisei & 3rd Gen) - 13 Days
35. Cry Baby (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 13 Days (1h 10m)
36. Veah (Haachama) - 13 Days (22h 24m) **NEW**
37. Live Again (Mori Calliope) - 14 Days
38. Ahoy (Houshou Marine) - 15 Days
39. Take Me Home, Country Roads (HoloEN) - 15 Days
40. Palette (Tokoyami Towa) - 15 Days
41. Odo (Murasaki Shion) - 15 Days (14h 11m)
42. Shitsuraku Petri (Nekomata Okayu) - 16 Days
43. Shoujo Rei (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 16 Days (2h 21m)
44. Hana ni Bourei (Nakiri Ayame) - 16 Days (2h 37m)
45. adrenaline!!! (Oozora Subaru / Shigure Ui) - 16 Days (4h 5m) **NEW**
46. KING (Pavolia Reine) - 17 Days
47. Weather Hackers (Kiryu Coco) - 17 Days (0h 14m)
48. Indonesian Folk Music Medley (hololive ID) - 17 Days (23h 42m)
49. KING (Murasaki Shion) - 19 Days
50. Envy Baby (Omaru Polka) - 19 Days
51. Cinderella (Usada Pekora) - 19 days (18h 26m) **NEW**
52. Usseewa (Murasaki Shion) - 20 Days
53. VILLAIN (Moona Hoshinova) - 20 Days
54. Aikotoba III (Kiara and Gura) - 21 Days
55. FLOS (Nekomata Okayu) - 21 Days
56. Ranbu no Melody (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 21 Days
57. RED HEART (Akai Haato) - 23 Days
58. HINOTORI (Takanashi Kiara) - 23 Days
59. p.h. (Nekomata Okayu) - 24 Days (19h 25m)
60. SPARKS (Takanashi Kiara - 24 Days (19h 49m)
61. Alice in N.Y (Sora, Kanata, Suisei, Marine, Flare) - 28 Days
62. Vampire (Omaru Polka) - 28 Days
63. KING (Tokoyami Towa) - 28 Days
64. Cursed Night (Mori Calliope) - 29 Days
65. Blessing (NePoLaBo) - 29 Days (1h 10m) **NEW**
66. Kakero (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 29 Days (10h 38m)
67. Plasmagic Seasons (1st Gen) - 30 Days

>>12273701
This just for songs that got 1M in under a month right?

>>12273768
Yes and so is the Niji list above since Diamond City Lights is not on there.

Most songs over 1 million:
Hoshimachi Suisei 25 (+3 from the topic)
Mori Calliope 21 (+9 from the topic)
hololive ホロライブ - VTuber Group 20 (+8 from the topic)
Minato Aqua 12 (+1 from the topic)
Amane Kanata 12
Nekomata Okayu 10
Murasaki Shion 10

Only Suisei Marine, Mori and hololive main channel having 2 videos over 10 million views.
Suisei will have 5 videos over 10 million by the end of the year with no one else looking to close that gap.

>>12273817
Gura just has 2 videos over 10M views

>>12273817
Hmm? Rip deadbeats and king are all over 10m unless collabs don’t count. Red owth and Roki are all over 8 million so not too far from 10M

>>12273701
Under 30 days
Mori: 13/67 (5 covers 8 originals)
Suisei: 11/67 (7 covers 4 originals)
Both of them on their own can match with the whole Nijisanji
Under 7 days
Mori: 7/19 (4 covers 3 originals)
Suisei: 2/19 (2 covers)

>>12274257
>king
That's on Gura channel right? I assume that anon list is based on channel, therefore Getcha also counted as suisei(?)

cam on irys get that 16k

>>12274257
OWTH and Roki are both slowing down to 100k/week pace so they are 4 months out. Red have a decent chance to hit 10m views by the end of the year.

>>12274421
Only wild card might be new popular Mori release which might boost her catalogue a bit.

>>12271557
>don't care
Yet you wrote out a whole essay.
Nice cope

Kronii just chatting and 7k get

>>12275906
Now she has started Minecraft. RIP Irys numbers.

Kronii just switched from Hades to Minecraft after losing her save files.

>>12273533
Wow. Never knew Nijis weren't total pushovers. Do these include illegal ad pushing?

Kronii and Irys earning 14.5k ccv

>>12276789
Anything from NijiEN was ad-boosted, so only BLACK OUT.

>>12276563
ILLEGAL VIEW STEALING

caaam ooon irysss 16k quotaaa

I think we just found IRyS' specific niche. This is incredible. I know it will probably be a japanese song but if her next original in a broadway style show tune it would do bigger numbers than a japanese pop song. This is amazing.

Strong day for EN multiple 10k+

>>12253090
Maybe they are keeping the short debuts for the watchalong stream? I don't think they should even have that, but it oculd be a reason.

>sings a japanese song
its over goodbye 16k

>knows Japanese
>bridges connection between the branches
is IRyS what Kiara tries to be? why does IRyS better received by anons here compared to Kiara?

>>12278490
it has nothing to do with the song, JP streams are starting now

>>12278646
I wonder why

>IRyS getting 15.5k overlapping with Kronii's 16k MC
>Ame got 16k with no overlapping.
If this doesn't show that there's a part of the Holo audience that only watches Minecraft and a part of the Holo audience that does not care about singing at all nothing will. Probably a lot of overlapping in those two groups.

Only 30k EOPs watching right now? Pathetic

>>12278646
-No pity party bullshit
-Much better personality
-Much better voice
-Much better singing voice
Yes, except that Kiara is definitely more proactive in trying to get things organized between members+branches it seems.

>>12278765
it's really surprising to me that even the anons at /hlg/ on /jp/ seems to like her

>>12278953
>Hafu
Literally what most of /hlg/ want to be anon. Not hard to see why.

>>12278953
what? jp hates almost every EN and ID

>>12278646
Not obnoxious as fuck, entertaining, better voice, actual sweetheart. The irony is that IRyS probably is the best HoloEN streamer.

>>12279023
nah, they have a soft spot for IRyS and recently have been opening up to Gura due to her interaction with Shion.

>>12279023
Nah, I'm not that sure about council since I don't go there as much as I used to before /vt/ but Ina and Ame were always pretty well liked. Gura was more mixed over there but had her fans (especially when she sang). Really they only hated on Mori and Kiara. Really not that different from here to be honest.

60k watching Holos, 6 streams

>>12278716
It's also the third karaoke within like the last 5 hours, and the only Holo EN MC stream in days (albeit guerilla).

>>12279118
Her design fucked her so hard it's pretty sad, if she had a design that isn't atrocious she would pull much better numbers

How powerful is IRyS if she has a perfect model?

>>12279250
I mean, IRyS gets pretty decent numbers even by Hololive standard

>>12279310
Below Gura tier. The Miko of EN.

>>12278718
Only 30k JOPs watching right now? Pathetic

>>12279023
Other than one or two schizos, they've been pretty open with EN ever since IRySa debut.
>>12279250
Yeah I hope she get another model like Azki.

>>12279310
...Too powerful, probably matches Kronii, but at the same time it probably would've taken her longer to get over her nerves. She was pretty rough for the first 2 weeks when she was getting used to streaming to so many more people.

>>12279222
>>12279219
>>12279418
After all one can't tell if the ones posting there are the usual jp anons or the banned anons from vt, after all if you get banned here you can still post in jp and they don't have mods except the tranny niji meido

>>12279460
I thought she was really polished at debut, as far as vtubers go, her biggest problem is she didn't show a ton of personality the first few weeks, so some people wrote her off as bland.

>>12279418
>Other than one or two schizos, they've been pretty open with EN ever since IRySa debut.
I think it was actually council that did that. IRyS open up the idea but council debut took it to the next level. It is funny to me because this feels like Japan's history. The trade with the Portuguese caused their government to lock down the country. But then the Americans came and forced Japan to open. The parallelism is quite uncanny.

>>12279658
She explained it in a recent stream. She was trying seem more focused and mature at first, but dropped the act as time went on.

Is Irys the one with more experience as a vtuber before joinning hololive? that would explain why she could adapt so good and quickly

>>12279822
Ah, must've missed that but that does track, she's definitely better now that she doesn't seem as 'stiff' as though she was putting on an act. Dorkrys is far more entertaining.

I swear if Moona or Risu would have debuted as EN singers too they could had these numbers too

>>12279593
Sometimes people copy pasted bait posts from here to /hlg/ kek

>>12279658
This 100%

After her first couple of streams I had her chalked up as another chill streamer like Ina. That got proceeded to get blown the fuck out as she opened up more and became more Miko than Ina. Just a clumsy dork full of energy.

>>12279995
Risu needs to fix her mic

>>12280130
>Risu needs to fix her schedule

>>12280204
Risu needs to actually sing, like, at all......

>>12280249
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWwiTXGFjcY

>>12279851
From what I understand of their streaming/vtubing experience:

Extensive: Ame/Kiara
Moderate: Gura/IRyS/Bae/Kronii/Fauna
Light: Ina/Mumei
Very Little/None: Mori/Sana

>>12280108
I don't how the scouting department for cover does but almost every member they find has a second layer of personality. Plus to add to this the collab ban makes that second layer coming through even more prominent giving another point of interest to viewers.

>>12279995
They're both too ESL. People complain about not being able to understand Kiara and even Sana, those two would have a larger audience than they have now, but they would have had a hard ceiling of people that were turned off by that.

>>12279995
ID3 should be a singing focus gen instead of Reine's friends

>>12279995
>With Moona's autism
Never

>>12279851
Nah Irys like literally just have a few months of being a vtuber before she deleted it all when she got accepted into Hololive. If you meant as a youtuber/utaite though then yeah she's been around for a long time.

>>12280499
I'd rather have Reine's friends because we all know how talented they can be (because they're rich)

>>12280499
I don't get this rrat. Care to spoonfeed me?

>>12280204
>>12280249
Mic first anons, you haven't noticed on The Baddest? her voice audio was out of place

>>12280535
Yea, IRyS has about as long of a YT history as Gura does, give or take a year?

>>12280589
Ollie and Anya are both friends of Reine and that's why they're in ID2 is the rrat. This is based off of roommate info on Reine, and that's as much info as you'll get from here.

>>12279310
Irysfags are delusional, she can't even beat Ame's Sovl tier singing numbers. Below Ina tier is where I would rank her.

>>12280589
Big political connections, there are also some photos of her and the president of Indonesia

>>12280730
Gonna post this here too? Look how much over lap IRyS has right now, when Ame had none, and they reach about the same peak. If you wanna numberfag do it properly.

>>12280694
Everyone in the ID vtubing scene is "friends" with each other and no one really knows anything about Anya.

>>12280730
Ame was singing English songs with no competition on prime time for her. Obviously she will get the numbers retard