/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>12393992
Jesus Christ how bad was it?

Which is more likely? This or there is no more nepotism hires to be done?

>>12393992
No one passed or no one applied?
Kek Hololive in shambles, cant even find two talents while Niji is debuting NINE this week

>>12393992
should not nt have put monye on the omegalul guy just saying

>>12394069
Absolutely no nepotism hires left

Hololive is quality and harmony first
Not like the other black company

Why are there two of the exact same thread up? Does this board even have mods?

>>12393992
The designs are not good enough, they look like secondary characters.

>>12395420
They are too busy getting railed by Omegatranny to care about moderating this board. Probably doing the human centipede right now

>>12394087 oh i'm not time looping guy just cheated on the test and changed the answers up a bit >>12393652

>>12394088
Ah yes the guy who paid for EN to exist they really shouldn't have invest his own money in him

>>12395420

No unless CP

>>12395709

Do better bait

>>12395420
jannies were told to stop babysitting newfags so they're on cp only mode.
since if they entertain every bait eaters like you, then more retards will cry for every posts that hurt fee-fees and flood mods with reddit tier reports

Maybe Cover looked at that they have nearly 60 active talents and decided they'd only be competing with themselves at this point.

>>12395420
oh well apparently im fucking blind, search function didnt show up.

>>12397277
Then they are lying here, which isn't a good look either.

>>12397277
all money goes to cover anyways and people still member multiple talents

>>12395420
Shittalk Calli and you'll see that this board ACTUALLY has jannies.

>>12397277
>>12399545
That was a 10-days long audition all the way back in Feb / March 2020. It was way before even Gen5 debuts and Cover definitely didn't have 60 members back then. They probably changed their mind sometimes afterwards and now decided to finally shelve whatever plan they had for these two models back then (additional GAMERS members?)

>>12393992
>based parsley design going to waste
shamefur dispray.
>>12394069
>aaAaAaaaAA nepotism!
getting a job with a friend's reference is not nepotism you stupid mongoloid.
>>12395709
>hoes mad

>>12394069
the latter

>>12395420
Meidos only exist in /hlgg/ and /nijien/

>>12395709
the only possible sex is oral

>>12399808
That is one of the best possible examples of nepotism, actually. I'm curious to hear what you think nepotism is if it isn't that?

>>12393992
If I were to hazard a guess the roles were too specific in requirements which ended up resulting in no passing applications. The fact that this was the auditions for a pair makes me believe that they were looking for another Okayu/Korone pairing where the applicants knew each other prior or worked well with one another from the get go.

>>12394087
There so many Niji """"""""talents"""""""" I cant even keep track

Quality over quantity, nijifag

>>12399908
not them, but isn't actual nepotism specifically about giving preferential treatment to relatives of employees?

>>12399908
>nepotism involves family
they're not relatives at all retard
what they do is a common practice called 'employee referral'
get a job

>>12394087
>niji hired petra and nina
all you need to know

>>12400009
Any personal or professional connection that helps you professionally is nepotism. There are no exceptions. If a friend refers you to their employer and you get the job, you are a nepotism hire.
>>12400035
You sound like you work for your parents and are deathly afraid to admit it.

>>12399995
>Quality over quantity
Kek

>>12399908
Getting a job because you know someone inside the org is actually very common. Sorry anon thats how the world works, it isn't nepotism. Thats why networking is so important.

>>12400102
I'm aware that's how the world works. It doesn't stop being nepotism.

>>12393992
What were the designs? These two?

>>12393992
>Council made them actually have standards

>>12400078
all good employees are nepotism hires
meritocracy by itself is untrustworthy

>>12400143
AAAAAAAA GOTH LOLI UWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
COVER DON'T SCRAP THE DESIGNS

>>12400078
>Any personal or professional connection that helps you professionally is nepotism.
Nope having professional connections is not nepotism that is just being able to network properly, stay mad

>>12400177
I disagree with both of those statements completely.

>>12395420
Hololive board, sir.

>>12400252
stay mad

>>12400072
but Nina is doing really well for wave 3 and Petra is a nice hit with Niji JP.

>>12400130
The reality is the majority of jobs do not require the qualifications asked for. And most of the people applying to a job are largely indistinguishable from each other. At that point the only thing really separating applicants is who is vouching for them.

>>12400172
>Audition that happened in March 2020
>Somehow it is Council's fault
LMAO

>>12400172
They couldn't find any former idols willing to become a vtuber anymore.

Is this this the final yab?

>>12400102
Welcome to reality. If you want to seethe and cope over references being more important than anything else you do that. Spend more time networking, less time being a retard who whines about nepotism and you too can get a job

>>12400177
based

>>12400078
Jesus Christ have you ever worked a job before?

>>12400130
No it's not you retard. Nepotism is giving a job to an unqualified individual because of a personal relationship and giving them preferential treatment over other candidates. Hiring someone who meets qualifications and was considered better than other candidates but was referred to by someone who knows them is not nepotism.

Kek this means only one thing: CANNUR ETERNALLY BTFO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The talents don't have a patience to wait for more than a year and a half just to debut, so it's likely they bailed. also Cover's probably too paraniod to hire another menhera like Aloe that's why they stopped hiring for more JP talents recently.

>>12394087
No one with their requirements signed
Either their standards were too high or no one bothered

>>12393992
Cause you literally mus have made content on the internet to be considered. It’s the stupidest shit ever and that’s why we know everyone’s identity

>>12400206
It's more like chuunibyou

>>12393992
At least they're critically thinking about this and not just shitting out talents left and right

>>12393992
>applicants are all subpar
>cover doesn't accept any of them
Good. Nijisanji needs to learn from this.

>>12393992
FUCKING BULLSHIT
HOW DO I FILL MY TANUKI WIFE NEEDS NOW

>>12401080
>"It's okay to lie to get into hololive"
>Everyone lies
>No one gets in

>>12400206
Welcome to the "holy fuck, I can't believe they are actually not going to use this design" club

>>12400886
>Nepotism is giving a job to an unqualified individual because of a personal relationship and giving them preferential treatment over other candidates.
So, Hololive.

>>12401369
A shame I bet she would have been super cute too.

>>12400830
The answer is obviously no. By their definition of nepotism I've apparently gotten several jobs thanks to it

>>12400078
I don't think you've ever worked a job before.

>>12401454
>sup hoe wanna stream video games?
>no, sorry, I lack qualification
Fucking zoomers get a job

>>12401369
This is an awful design for a vtuber

>>12401369
Made for sex

>>12393992

I genuinely do not believe a global entertainment company with hqs in 3 countrirs is unable to find even one new employee within a timespan of 19 months out of a pool of over 15.000 people.

Something is going on here.

>>12394044
>>12394087
>>12393992
>dozens of interviews
>everyone was so shitty that cover didn't hire anyone
I guess it means we're getting at least 4 new Cover reject- I mean, 4 new Nijisanji waves soon.

>>12401734
>Something is going on here.
It's just a way of saying that the designs were shit.

>>12400346
>add needless bullshit to job applications
>make people jump through hoops
>companies shocked when they can't find anyone

>>12401734
>Something is going on here.
Yeah. It's called quality control.

>>12400625
Literally the entire reason China is surpassing America. You are the actual cancer unironically killing the world.

>>12393992
>people would rather take their chances in niji than in holo
Damn

>>12395989
>post is literally not bait, but an insult
>"bait"

You are the kind of redditor ruining this fucking board.

>>12401734
They're looking for people who can convince them that they're not in it just for the money and will stay even if vtubing collapses.
If they don't see that they can get a good intangible ball and chain on you so you don't destroy the hololive brand when you leave, they don't want you.

>>12393992
daddy mummy, why do you abandon me?

>>12401978
Are you actually kidding here? China is the king of nepotism by a light year. It's not only accepted, it is expected. It's so embedded into Chinese culture that the whole thing started getting exported to the West as the revolutionary concept of 'guanxi' to give your career an edge over others, as though hiding it behind the Chinese word changed the essential meaning of it.

>>12402040
That actually does sound nice and principled and explains why they have so few graduations outside Holostars. However it feels kind of hard to believe when you see them take on hires that clearly knew very little about Holo or even vtubers (mori, kronii etc).

Somehow all the new hires knew fucking nothing about Minecraft at all and don't recognize a damn thing on the JP server indicating they have never seen more than a handful of MC streams and probably just watched some clips. When fucking millions of viewers all have between a loose to utterly comprehensive map of the MC servers in their head just from watching streams and new Holos themselves don't that's pretty lame. They objectively weren't fucking fans and objectively didn't fucking care about Holo, period.

>>12402241
maybe I'm the only one who thinks this, but I don't think an applicant being a fan or not of hololive should factor into hiring

>>12402426
Yeah it shouldn't be a make-or-break decision all by itself, but I mean in general it begs the "why are you really applying if you don't give a shit about us" question.

Which is, the money. Money money money money money money money money money money money money. Should be the easiest fucking filter possible to test someone's motivations in an applicant - "do you know anything about our company beyond that it's the big famous one?"

>>12402241
What you're saying doesn't contradict. Staying as a holo does not necessarily mean they need to originally like or be committed to holos. There are other ways of ensuring loyalty.

For Mori it was twofold. She was definitely pursuing her passion for non-monetary reasons, because only a fucking idiot would go to Japan and scrape by in JET to hopefully make it big in a dying rap scene. That sincerity meant that she wasn't in it for the money. Also, they knew that even if she did make it big in hololive (which they had no way of knowing how big she would blow up, since holoEN was anticipated to be more in between JP and ID numbers at best), the success after leaving it would likely be much smaller. They had reason to believe that their hold on her would be ironclad.

For Kronii she was an unsuccessful VA. Even if you were actually a successful VA, the industry can still freeze you out if you can't play the social game well. Leaving all of that aside, it's not like being a VA pays on the same level as holoEN2 either. If Holo drops her she's back to nothing. Again, their risk assessment would read as very low that she leaves.

design is horrible, too much going on like Irys'
keep it simple, baka

>>12401369
Wait this is a girl? Where's the boob armor?

>>12402487
True, but you could also argue that they are applying to EN branch and not JP one, so why should they know about people they can't understand.
Of course it's kind of irrelevant when all the branches are close anyways.

>>12401740
>Seething because Niji got the most seiso girl of them all.

>>12402487
Looking at the spirit/general relative interest at least 3/5 EN1s were between familiar with to extremely-into Holo beforehand - years beforehand in some cases, and it's arguably maybe even 4/5 (mori being the wildcard hire).

Irys? EN2? I dunno. Maybe Bae is a big fan - of Holostars. Fauna .. kinda? You really truly don't get a sense of care from the others. So, after it became clear it's a money train, they got apps from all the big 'un indies and Cover took some in. Is it just coincidence that Council appears far more casual and break-prone right off the bat? Is it coincidence Bae and Fauna are the ones holding the fort with their scheduling being the two that had personal interest in Cover's products? HMmm.

The circumstances for most EN1 hires being basically pinned down as stuck with Holo or they're out on the streets, and Holo is their rags-to-riches story, worked out well probably for Mori in specific but it's both that + actually-liking-Holo for the rest. Tellingly you don't really hear or feel such pressures out of Mumei or Sana or Kronii. They were getting by in life somehow, they are very ordinary people in multiple senses compared to the EN1s and weren't big Holo fans beforehand either. So unsurprisignly their commitment is questionable and so will be their lifespans as Holos.

>>12402746
which one?

>>12393992
>Audition
Cover just couldn't find someone with 500k+ subs to willingly transition into hololive. If you really think that they would bet on random nobody, you must be really naive.

>>12402935
Rosemi, can't even explain what twerking is without her running out of the room.

>>12402912
also I'm of the opinion they should have rescinded the offer for Mumei and gone with someone else. For example all present NijiENs - any of those would have been better besides Nina. Imagine if Pomu, Selen or Rosemi had become the owl instead. Just, imagine the hype in comparison to the actual xanax material Mumei is. She isn't EN Aqua, Aqua actually is talkative and lively a lot and just ditzy, Mumei is a sleeping pill. Pomu has more personality in her pinky finger than Mumei does in her whole body.

I think, Mumei takes the acting bit too seriously and thinks she absolutely just must be a moeblob. IMO the ones who act the hardest are in reality the most fucking disconnected, condescending people behind the avatar. It's like, "you're not good enough to see the real me, I don't WANT you to know the real me eeew" and yes, I do apply this to Luna as well, the fakest Holo of them all, so fake even other Holos don't know what she really-really-really is like (do you really think someone can't just stay in kayfabe in an offcollab, etc).

>>12400072
Petra is amazing fuck you

>>12403067
A bit odd to make that statement in English, but alright.

>>12403035
>Mumei is a sleeping pill.
I was wondering if it was just me.
>"you're not good enough to see the real me
Kinda harsh, it could go either way, plenty of people aren't genuine because they think nobody would like their "real" persona.

>>12403035
>any of those would have been better besides Nina.
She's doing pretty great so I don't know what this autism is about, not to mention planning to stream every day of November now so you can't even call her lazy.

After what happened to Aloe no wonder any real talent doesn't want to join holotrash.

>>12403035
Isn't Mumei not even allowed to do the one thing she wanted to, talking about history, civilization and grand strategy games? I'd be phoning it in too.

>>12402912
yea i can see that. I also get more of normie vibe from EN2/irys. Not saying thats a bad thing, but its a weird contrast to alot of EN1. Even kiara's big stacycock energy is offset by her euro mannerisms

>>12403169
Presently her honey spam is obnoxious as all fuck and she is an ultra-tryhard just trying to force herself on everyone. She's a numberfag totally. From her PL however she has an open disdain of vtubers and is an absolute fox in the henhouse. I thought, Anikara maybe had better EN scouts until her. These days I think simply both corpos have some major flaws.

>>12393992
Hololive I kneel
wouldn't want another to end up like Nijisanji

>>12403270
>From her PL however she has an open disdain of vtubers and is an absolute fox in the henhouse
Isn't this not even the case since people were mixing up her PL with someone else who sounded similar. That person didn't even like anime and Nina watches Jojo and shit nonstop.

>>12403235
Oh, that sucks.

>>12403235
Yeah I'd suppose that might have something to do with it, although I think that was always unrealistic to begin with as no chuuba just sticks with their setting lore permanently.

They're all fated to become mostly MC/FOTM streamers because that's what Holo does. I didn't excoriate all the proto-hoomans hard enough in those mumei hype threads pre-debut, I'm sure half of them were utter newfags who had no conception of how little the char setting actually matters beyond the first week or two (and not even that for JPs). I suppose back then considering we were told lore was supposed to be a big deal for EN2s maybe that had people convinced they were going to break out of the stalemate of content collectivism, but welp, they didn't. I think Cover's own people didn't think it through hard enough just what they intended by that kind of structuring, how realistic it was to execute.

>>12403304
unconfirmed, but no one is actually digging deeper so they just go with whatever rrat
>>12403342
>Yeah I'd suppose that might have something to do with it, although I think that was always unrealistic to begin with as no chuuba just sticks with their setting lore permanently.
Luna.

>>12403342
>I think that was always unrealistic to begin with as no chuuba just sticks with their setting lore permanently.
Wasn't this actually the problem, it's because muh lore she's not allowed to do those things. Though there's a chance that's rrat. Feel bad for Bar too who feels she has to stick with her shitty lore even though it's in contrast to her character.

>>12394069
latter
Ina didnt have anyone else to suggest to omegatranny

>>12395420
It has mods. You'll see when they ban you for this post in a couple hours.
>>12399908
Nepotism has a fairly broad definition precisely because it's often used as a cope. Usually the understood definition is that it applies when someone significantly more qualified lost out.
>>12394069
That being said, if we accept this definition, then the former is more likely.
Why?
Because it's incredibly unlikely that NONE of the present talents or staff have no friends that would like to do that but don't already.
Like that's just not how statistics work.
This is one of the best gigs in the creative industry out there.
Yes, there are higher paid ones, but they tend to be gated behind everything from having to tour to having been born into the right religion or location to, y'know.
Being comfortable with showing yourself in public on the regular under your real name, which tons of creative people have always had massive issues with.

Creative people tend to have creative friends. So the pool being dry makes no sense.
Which, in turn, makes the nepotism option nonsensical.
>>12393992
Gotta say I respect them for that. Better than filling the slots with people not up to snuff because they felt they *had* to throw out another gen.

>>12403364
luna is the heath ledger of vtubing anon. there's no more difference between her true self and her persona

No this is the correct decision, We don't want to become like Nijisanji in just hiring people for the sake of it plus getting into Holo is a golden ticket these days, The standards will have certainly increased and rightfully so.
Or they just wanted to cancel these for Gen 6 own designs behind the scenes, Kakage one was fucking shit anyway but Parsley's was really good.

>>12403442
It's equally likely because Holo is so popular, their standards are probably too high. You're not going to get accept anyone under 200-300k subs but anyone above that is fine working for themselves.

>>12393992
jp gen 6 absolutely never, maybe they finally started filtering for menheras, used goods, and general persona non grata?

>>12403472
>You're not going to get accept anyone under 200-300k subs
roru
rumao
Council

>>12393992
What audition are they talking about???

>>12403416
>Nepotism has a fairly broad definition precisely because it's often used as a cope. Usually the understood definition is that it applies when someone significantly more qualified lost out.
Read a dictionary, jfc.

>noone is good enough for them
>while Matsuri and Ayame are still there
Yeah, I doubt that they couldn't find non-whore that streams more than once per month in about 16k vtubers
Why they couldn't reach to actual voice actresses or idols? They are big enough for that.
Cover is incopetent as usual

too many tranny applying this time right? thanks omega

>>12403543
quality over quantity

>>12403016
Ah, okay.
Shame she wasn't accepted into Hololive again, I expected to see the "I'm ceasing vtuber activities" on her twitter again.

>>12403504
Standards increase as popularity rises

>>12403611
you just repeated bullshit over my arguments why this is cover being retarded, not some quality control

>>12403543
Legacy hires. During Gen 0 and 1, they were basically looking for anybody with streaming history. Ayame was Gen 2, but she actually worked when she first started, now she has no contractual obligations and can stream whenever she feels like.

It makes sense that a company gets pickier with their choices once their talent pool grows from a few dozen applications to literally tens of thousands. Whenever Hololive opens up spots, EVERYONE applies, and then they just hire Ina's friends anyway

>>12403617
You wish, maybe HoloEN could be good then

>>12403304
anon Jojo is weeb normie shit thats something you expect out of someone pretending to be into weeb shit for $$$

>>12402531
I feel bad for Kronii, listening to her other VA shot, she sounds decent at worst. I've definitely heard worse in anime dubbing and shit

>>12403680
>weeb normie
>didn't even like anime

>>12403680
The girl everyone thinks is Nina wasn't a weeb at all.

>>12403543
Will these highly qualified people stay if the bubble bursts and they end up taking home 3-4k a month?
Cover doesn't want people who could make it outside by themselves. They want what every Japanese company wants, hires for life.

>>12402241
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if not THAT many people in the EN vtubing landscape were big fans of Hololive or Nijisanji. Not in the sense that they don't like them, but more like they can't name many members outside of the obvious ones and they wouldn't really call any of them an inspiration to them.

>>12399908
Get some friends loser incel

>>12402241
Holostars haven't had many graduations either, only two proper graduations (one being for health reasons), and a third one that was forcefully terminated for funding illegal Beyblade yakuza

>>12402746
>most seiso girl
Miki took Tsunderia for a ride and immediately jumped ship with her new pc to NijiEN.

>>12403909
>Get some friends
>/vt/

>>12397277
If you don't compete with yourself your content will get stale and talents become complacent

>>12401734
You think they go ahead through 15,000 applications?? They're usually handed over to the talents and and they're asked "Do you know anyone in this list?"

>>12402487
Sure it sounds soulless but what else is there to pull applicants in other than the success? Big and small groups all have menhera management so you can't use that, permissions tend to kneecap almost all groups so you'll be playing a lot of the same games, and the more EN girls they get the more you'll get ones that can't speak any Japanese so the chance to interact with JP will lose its luster.

This is good. Means they still have standards unlike nijisanji and their hundred vtubers whom only 4 are good

>>12404058
only aqua, pecor, marine and Korone are good in Hololive

>>12402426
It's incredibly dumb because it limits the talent pool, why go for the Hololive fan over someone thats more qualified and is capable of meshing with her gen and the rest of Hololive.

>>12401229
Their "high standards" are really just "having a lot of subs on roommate account"
Look at their V"singer" who sings out of tune most of the times and they hired her because one of her videos had 100 million views because algorithm mistook it for the original.

>>12404112
No you're not supposed to say that.

>>12403760
Sucks, because Japanese companies share something in common with a lot of other companies around the world: treating their workers like resources instead of people. That makes it so only desperate/gullible people would join

>>12402912
In my opinion Mumei threw her career in the trash by joining holo, even if it's paying more it's probably she had a following and viewership she could probably life comfortably before, way more freedom and probably dealt with way less shit. Now she's stuck where she is playing a retarded character because she can't really do anything she originally wanted.
Bae was rag-to-riches too and she's the greatest winner of Council in this regard. Great for her since she can fully appreciate her stay and maybe get dicked by Roberu one day.

>>12404220
A proper fan would be great at promoting the brand and teaching their viewers about some of its history.

>>12404225
If you want to falseflag for Irys you need to be more subtle. Her being so extraordinarily in tune to the detriment of expression is a big part of what made her early singing soulless.

>>12403645
i mean what matsuri and ayame do have no bearing on what hololive's current hiring standards are

>>12404336
https://youtu.be/2SXHxLnr7Js if you think this is a good singer it means you haven't listened to actual good singers

>>12402912
Are you getting Sana and Fauna confused? Her first time in Minecraft she talked about how surreal it was to be in the server after having watched it for months, so at the very least she watched Ina pretty extensively. She's also interacted with more JPs than some Myth members, and at least knows something about their personalities. Like when she was in Minecraft with Pekora, she knew when to be wary about Pekora trying to trick her and when to just go with the flow. The fact that she jumps at the chance to interact with so many of them tells me that she's a fan.

>>12404336
her voice just lacks an identity and impact, she's a well tuned robot with a soulless voice.

too many girls audition with questionable past this time eh?

>>12404525
Boyfriend-free girls doko

>>12404112
Samefag here! I forgot to mention Miko, Nene, Luna, Okayu, Rushia, Botan, Subaru, Haato, Lamy, Fubuki, Noel, Flare, Kanata, Watame and Suisex. My b

>>12404616
>Miko
>Luna
>Okayu
>Flare
>Kanata
kill yourself EOP.

>>12401369
Ksuwabe confirmed once again he was in charge of his design once the auditions had closed this year so you have to wait
https://twitter.com/KSUWABE/status/1372816071279800323

>>12404451
And...that was a live karaoke performance where, as someone without any professional training, she hits nearly every single note she aims for. Extremely in-tune. I don't know what your expectations are. Did you seriously expect Cover to hire a fully fledged singer out of the gate? A nascent Ado or Aimer? That's not what the brand is about. There is no journey if the beginning is already indistinguishable from the end to the average fan.

>>12404722
Well, they hired AZKi. She was very very very far from a nobody.

>>12404451
I can't really put my finger on what's wrong with it, but it really feels like it lacks SOUL.

>>12404722
>There is no journey
She has been a singer for more than 10 years lmao she's not a newbie on the road to perfection you're deluded.

>>12393992
Is this a sign that the vtubers craze is dying?

>>12404762
So she's already perfect? Alright then.
The duration of time before that doesn't matter. The fact is there is clearly room for improvement. The whole subtext behind the idol journey is all about making the fans feel invested as though they are watching her get better. If you think she's already reached her peak, she's not being marketed to you.

>>12404791
Their candidates just had boyfriends. Different issue

Say what you will about Irys' singing, but the way she articulates herself is pleasing. Just something about the way she talks.

Thank you for coming to my TEDx talk.

>>12404822
Doesn't seem to have stopped EN2. That or if EN2 management is fine with it they are proving Westerner influence in Cover a lethal mistake just as everyone on /jp/ fucking knee it would be the instant they learned of HoloEN.

>>12404750
In certain circles, sure. But Azki is still massively more successful than her (still-active) alterego.

>>12404879
No one got lynched in EN2 unlike someone in JP

>Auditions
>Cover

>>12404791
I think we are close to the top of the current phase of interest, but virtual content creation will grow way bigger in the future

>>12404888
But you can't really say there was a journey for her, she was accomplished from the beginning when people recognized her voice.

>>12404844
Her talking style is super girl next door very comfy

>>12401734
Wait, where you getting "hqs in 3 countrirs" from? Is this some rrat or actual knowledge? I'm pretty sure they don't have an ID office, and I'm damn sure they don't have an NA office, they could have just rented a studio out and have had 3d for the EN girls done by now. Keep in mind that while opening a single office in another country can be either a big or small investment for a company, there usually has to be some concrete reason for it, like tax breaks. Even Nintendo recently closed some offices in NA.

>>12393992
All of you are a bunch of EOP niggers apparently.
The post is specifically talking about the audition for the 2 characters released by Parseley and Kakage back in March 2020 and that nobody who auditioned fit those 2 characters.

>>12404822
I’m sure almost everyone in hololive has BFs with only a few exceptions. My bet is they were looking for people who have more qualifications than just GFE this time around and couldn’t find fitting candidates.

>>12404960
She did nothing but covers. Right here you have people saying she's not a good singer. With hololive she actually has an obligation to focus on vocal training and release originals, as well as put on concerts. It would actually be her job instead of a hobby. These are things she would otherwise not have done. I don't see how you can say there would be no journey.

>>12394087
How can people even reply to this bait?

>>12405086
newfags and false flags

>>12405058
wait, are we talking about n****a or *n*****n here? former had original music released before hololive.

>>12405012
Bit of a sidestep from the thread topic but someone entertain me for a moment. Why doesn't Cover just open up and US office (NOT california or any other shitlib place) and move their "headquarters" to there on paper? Isn't the whole thing of them needing to get permissions a japan thing because they don't have fair use and it wouldn't apply for a US based company? lawlet

>>12405039
>2 characters released by Parseley and Kakage
Isn't one of those artists seething about it?

Also those characters were never going to see the light of day since they're already memes.

>>12393992
Nepotism well ran dry. It's over.

It seems you guys are not used to corporate speech. It's mathematically impossible to not find like 3 suitable people. It means people were already chosen by they reached some disagreement and they didn't join

>>12405181
The latter. Of course the former did, and has an amazing discography. But for both of them, breaking out into the mainstream is far, far less of a pipe dream as holos than going it alone.

>>12405230
see >>12403225

>>12393992
All I'm seeing here is that Kakage and Parsley are gonna be mommas for different characters in the future.

>>12405256
Aloe wasn't even public at the time of these auditions

incoming nijisanji debut with high school girl design

Inb4 Merise stole all Hololive candidates

>>12405285
It actually only vaguely says that they will be getting Kakage and Parsley to work on something else.

We're moving to Hololive Korea now

>audition from March 2020
I'm a retarded newfag, which holo division was the audition for and how come it took ~18 months for Cover to announce that everyone was rejected?

>>12403611

You could fire half of hololive and streaming quality would probably increase. Cover has more than a few expandable individuals in each gen. Not to mention the new sisterbranches.

>>12405484
best korea?

>>12405620
https://www.hololive.tv/characteraudition

>>12403669
You need to speak English to join HoloEN.

>>12405182
This is like saying that you are not subject to Japanese law, as a Japanese citizen, because the company that employs you is a US corporation. It does not protect the holoJPs. Also, this would subject them to other US laws which they may not like, as a company they may have to pay both US taxes and JP taxes, et cetera.
Maybe you could set up a US subsidiary for your foreign vtubers. But then you're still resopnsible for that company.
Arguably so far holoEN has never been taken down for not having permissions to stream a game, only music - which happens to non-JP streamers as well. So right now it's more that Cover is paranoid about not testing their fair use rights of the Americans.
And in the end, even if you're legally in the right, it still doesn't stop that DMCA takedown from being sent. So if you prove you're protected by fair use as an American on your second takedown, great, but you've still lost like a month of streaming while you waited for it to get hashed out.

Why hold auditions for specific characters when you have full freedom of creation? Why not just find someone good and design a character that naturally fits them?

>>12394087
Oh a GLOBALLY FAMOUS VTUBER COMPANY HAS NO APPLICANT FROM THEIR OWN COUNTRY WHERE ANIME IS RAMPANT

>>12405898
There's basically no protection against copyright trolling on Youtube, even if you are a megacorp (and those often end up DMCA'ing themselves, somehow).

I want holostars EN already. so we can have that one paint sniffing SEAman who was tripping about Suisei while playing dota debut as a real vtuber.

>>12405927
>Why not just find someone good and design a character that naturally fits them?
Because $$$$$$$$$

>>12393992
eh sounds like an excuse to not use the models, more likely they just redirected those they liked to gen5

>>12406017
Hololive brand no longer means anything because Coco has destroyed any good will Cover originally had. Now everyone is wary of applying into Hololive because it is finally confirmed that they are indeed a black company

>>12407091
>they had no good applicants in early 2020 because of Cocos graduation in mid 2021

>>12393992
Nenetradamus anon was right again!! They are closing these two models speculation before announcing jp6 in mid november

>>12407061
Also consider how long it took Cover to wrap up the EN vsinger thing which wound up being just one hire when they said it could be up to 3. They definitely have upped their standards these days and are probably extremely wary of another Aloe, because that would probably trash their reputation in Japan.

For the En sphere it seems totally different people are looking now and it feels like Myth was carefully looked over by JP staff while Council was more independent hence the stupid ideas like the pretentious pointless lore focus for Minecraft streamers and the "don't call them gen 2!!" arbitrary fucking retardation on display.

>>12407230
time travel yo look at console

>>12407402
>because that would probably trash their reputation in Japan.
most of her fans are japanese though

>>12407402
That's because they probably don't know what their EN branch is supposed to be, they definitely want them to be idols too since ame was told to practice her singing + all Myth sings during their debut, and then they pivot the branch to content creators(according to subaru zatsu) and it shows since half of gen 2 didn't bother trying to sing.

>>12400206
Is that really a loli design? Looks more like Rushia, Baelz and Ollie design as in they're just petite not really UOOOHH material

>>12401734
Probably not enough applicant or not good enough. I work at a company with HQ in all continents and HR can't find a damn frontend engineer to save my life

>>12407765
Your HR is discarding all the qualified white dudes by default lol, enjoy your corporate hellscape.

>>12399908
Referrals are commonplace

>>12400078
I don’t believe you have ever held a job, Anon. Stay mad pigcel

>>12405927
Probably because they already have/had the rights towards using those designs for models and see if using an audition can let them salvage the commisioned designs into a vtuber..

>>12407829
I got a job as a white dude. I'm literally the only male in my office. I'm the "minority hire." Feels good man.

>>12400886
This is literally the definition. Other Anon is just a retard who thinks he knows how the world works

>>12393992
Makes sense. Holo is at the point where the talents it scouts need to bring something to it rather than be investments they develop from the ground up. They want experience and skills.

Meanwhile indie chuubas with either of those can get decently big on their own now and sign arguably better (at least less restrictive) deals with other corps who are more desperate for new stars than HL currently is. HL has a rep for shooting down "out there" pitches on material on the JP side and being very controlling of character premises/designs to start out which is also unappealing to a lot of indies who've had a taste of controlling that stuff themselves and being able to work on what they want to.

HL isn't going to suffer much from a longer delay before their new gen debuts, they can ride this out just fine. And it'll arguably be good for their current girls and future hires as it provides an incentive for them to realize they need to be more competitive and can't just count on being #1 to attract top level prospects anymore or retain them.

>>12403270
I can understand the Honey spam criticism since it was really grating at debut, but I'm going to have to call you out for not being up to date. She's dropped the mommy faykabe quite a lot during recent streams and stopped saying Honey so much. Also her Darkest Dungeon streams are super Kino.

>>12400078
Character references from existing trusted employees are worth nearly as much as a degree in a lot of jobs, always have been.

If your definition of nepotism is so broad that literally any sort of connection to the ones hiring you qualifies as it then the majority of hirings for jobs in general are nepotism.

>>12408228
there is no point in responding to him, no matter what you say he will just keep screeching like he has done since Council.

China gate.
Most applicants inspired to be voice actress.
Hololive is blacklist in China and working for them mean you have a chance to be cancel in the future, thus most anime studios will hesitate to hire Hololive former Vtuber as voice actress.

>>12407485
I think they started the branch unsure of what it would be due to lack of familiarity with the western market beyond knowing it was into their jp talent already with language barriers.

I'd say that Irys was the last overture towards them having to be idols to because by then they realized that it was not at all needed to build a western fanbase or even the most profitable way to leverage them when you factor in issues with timezones and remote recording sessions and etc. Hence why Irys debuted solo, focused on JP side fanbase at first, and now does a lot of vidya streaming with no signs of another Vsinger coming - and also why Council has so few serious singers but instead has ASMR and artists. They have now decided EN branch can be a mixed org of content creators split between fields instead of being JP2.0 where they try have as many as possible double up as idols.

>>12407091
(You)

>>12401369
The difference between holo and Niji is that Niji eventually some of their auditioned charas, some used recently like Oliver and some were transfered to KR like LeeOn if I'm not mistaken, Cover didn't even used their dumped charas for ID3 tho like why?

>>12408521
Why not? a miscast can be fatal to chuubas, that's the rrats on why luna left niji after all.

>>12408606
Luna was miscasted as what??

>>12408671
Left in pic related

>>12400072
Petra is like Niji's Irys. She had a rough start, but has really found her stride since.

Wave 3 is pretty awful though. I'll give you that.

>>12408346
This. Most VAs have a side income voicing random mobile games from china/korea.

>>12400078
Then there's no value in labelling someone as a nepotism hire,

>>12403955
korone does the same thing and it is still fun

>>12393992
I bet I could do it.

>JP doesn't recruit anyone since everyone was below their standards.
>EN recruits council...

>>12408799
i thought petra was the only decent en girl

>>12409396
exactly

>>12394087
jump off a bridge and did pathetic nijibrony

>>12393992
Considering what happened with NijiEN3 thank fucking christ for this
I'd take nepotism hires over that abomination any day of the week

I would have loved to get nepotism-hired once in my life.

>>12403442
MF DOOG

Couldn't find a single Japanese girl without a Google level boyfriend. That's what happened.

>>12409704
You need friends first.

>>12409582
>think Niji Wave 3 is bad
Oh boy do I have bad news for you. And before you throw some buzz word yes I watch and legitimately enjoy Enna and Nina. Nina's game choices are unironically great and she toned down the honey spam.

>>12410137
What's the bad news? That you like them? Anon, no one cares that you have shit taste.

>>12410137
Ironic shitposting is just shitposting

>>12410137
Dude, you're arguing with people who don't even watch them. Don't waste your energy.

>>12410137
Nothing can change Nina's past though. We know her true colors.

Pre made models do be like that

>>12393992
Sephira reincarnation hopes....

>>12402554
This, I'm glad the designs are going into dumpster

>nips
>being able into soft L
>immediately followed by a consonant
Kiaroo, jusuto gibbu appu...

>>12403605
If so Cover is based for rejecting them all

>>12393992
Based, no t. rannies accepted

>>12404810
Anon she wasn't hired for anyone, but making money...
People wanted an English singer, not a robot that prints out JP albums.

I imagine Hololive doesn't want to expand JP until more members graduate

>>12394087
and prepare for even more after this massive rejection

>>12412269
Two more and Cover will have a generation's worth of JP graduations!

>>12412410
Exactly. We'll get a new generation in 2022

>>12411429
She applied to Nijisanji

>>12412410
you're counting Chris?

>>12409396
I blame management, not the talents. Bae is top cute but avatar of chaos? That's stupid

The キャラあり auditions are the ones with those two premade characters. I doubt it's ended because of no suitable candidates since it's there before even 5th gen debuted, it's more because Cover changed their audition model to one where the characters aren't shown to the public before the audition process so they scrapped that one.
They just had to give some random reason to officially end that "audition" and take it off their website since they were likely getting a few candidates now and then.

>>12408755
Moruru was such a hot fucking model man but casting Luna as her is a mistake

>>12410137
Enna ok.. Nina a shit

>>12412896
Nina is completely fine when she's playing games she actually likes. Watch her Darkest Dungeon Vods

sdsdsadad

>>12408755
friends forever

>>12412594
Fuck you I want to fuck that 0 yo nnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>12405783
Not true, two of them only speak Australian. I don't know wtf they're saying half the time, I'm no native speaker

>>12401740
Next wave is full male wave anon

>>12412229
It's almost as though doing that requires people to like the stuff you put out enough to give you money for it.

>>12403270
But, Honey spam is attach only to the character, are you fucking retarded?

Will Milky ever get her chance?

>>12407653
it says ゴスロリ right there you dumbass and it doesn't mean what you think it means

>>12408216
>2 hours ago
https://twitter.com/NinaKosaka/status/1455523253070581768

Whom the fuck are you trying to fool nijinigger?

>ITT: Lots of NEETs who never worked a day in their miserable lives and don't know what nepotism and network is.

>>12400143
these designs ,huh?
not a fan of them

>>12414237
No, Ina will personally veto her just out of spite

>>12393992
Probably has mostly to do with not finding enough unique people. They don't want to have too many overlapping personalities.

which two current non-holo vtubers would be good enough for holo jp?

>>12412555
>trash an excellent design
>give the all green on sana's face

>>12414456
post invalid
Out of all the possible designs you could've picked since march 2020 you went not only with the most recent one when council wasnt even being considered for discussion but not even the worst one of the gen which is Mumei who has both shit design and was done by Guras shitty rigger partially before being thrown to the other more experienced rigger to attempt and salvage it

>>12414322
Tone down ≠ stop using it

>>12414322
NTA, but in her solo streams it's definitely toned down.

>>12414496
mumei's design is more than fine, rigging has nothing to do with the core art that goes into it which is what the post chain you're replying to is about

>>12393992
>No one passed the audition.
LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES
More Cover nonsense. Where's the transparency? Just come clean and reveal to us the real reasons why you cancelled JP5 DLC.

>1. Shit designs that look like they belong in some Indonesian branch
>2. JP6 is coming. And this is all a ploy to dump kakage sensei

>>12414846
Kakage is still doing art work for Hololive and even got the status of holomom despite not even having a design in (as of now), how do you know that his design isnt already in with as you said, JP6 or IN3?

Honestly, its more likely they opened auditions and kinda forgot about the fact that they did eventually because of the vtuber boom.
it took them this long and they still couldnt find anyone, so likely they werent looking for a majority of that time.
that or they were trying to find a duo like korone and okayu but finding pre-established duos is way harder then it was before the boom

>>12414237

>introduces Mori to vtubing and encourages her to give it a shot
>only Mori blows up

Fuuuuck that’s got to sting at least a bit

>>12393992
probably because kakage didn't sell them all of the rights to the model

>>12414237
Who?

>>12414846
I'd venture to guess they might have two-for-oned some of the talents dredged up by this exercise either into Gen 5 and we just didn't know, or they may be waitlisted shoe-ins for Gen 6 and they didn't wanna do another mini-gen again.

The EN vsinger wound up being just fucking one person and they said it was gonna be up to 3. Wonder if they are keeping the applicants on file for future gens however (if not already tapped some for Council).

kakage... his daughter got aborted...

>>12414846
>dump kakage sensei
Anon read the fucking tweet before posting

>>12394044
its a lie

>>12393992
Imagine if u were actually one of the girls who applied for this and Cover just straight up said u r no good. It's one thing to get picked over but to just say u aint good enough is a bad look for the applicants. Cover prolly turned hundreds if not thousands of girls who liked Hololive into antis.

>>12400206
cover please....

>>12403035
>Pomu, Selen or Rosemi
Those girls are collab beggars. They thrive on outside collabs specifically Selen.

I doubt HoloEN management want to deal with more outside-collab begging, they already have to deal with Kiara and Mori's begging.

what ethnic background is Elira, leaf isn't an ethnicity. I need to know just so i can dictate how hard i can beat my meat

>>12417866
Most retarded take I read on this fucking board recently.

>>12417866
>Those girls are collab beggars.
People in the NijiEN thread were complaining for months that Pomu wasn't doing enough non-NijiEN collabs.

>>12417866
Selen doesn't beg for them. She gets offered them because her being entertaining in collabs is great for the collab partner too.

>>12404288
>maybe get dicked by Roberu one day
>one day
>Roberu
>dicked
>get
>by
Any other wishes the rat want when she's finally found the genie?

>>12405694
Wait, there were actual auditions for them? I thought those concepts were eventually reworked into Reine and Ollie.

>>12417544
Yeah, they pretty much said they'd rather have literally nobody than you.

Funny thing is, 1/3 of present holomembers wouldn't pass this audition

>>12417544
If getting turn down from a job is enough to send you into a menhera fit equal to most of Kiara's base, they were never meant for the job.
The only good thing about all this baturao yuchuba is that most of them can't go back to the company and shoot up the place. Firebomb, maybe, but not shoot up.

>>12418161
Nobody wants collab beggars you stupid nigger

>>12404288
What was the rat's PL like?

>>12403922
>nooooo you have to be loyal to the first company you join

>>12418724
Mostly gen 1 and 2 I guess. As the prestige goes up you raise the bar accordingly so it isn't surprising.

>>12418724
Why are standards different from when a company is an upstart to well known? Nobody knows.

They probably saw EN2's slow growth and figured they've reached a peak and need to slow down lest they turn into another Nijisanji

>>12393992
this was for premade avatars, and nobody suited them

>>12393992
Why would you even announce this though? Like if you filled the position at least people applying would think to themselves that there was someone else better, and apply again next time. Flat out saying "no one qualified" is like slapping every applicant in the face and saying all of them were shit. Who in their right mind not applying for the money would see this and ever apply to another audition from them?

>>12402241
Tbf most minecraft youtubers don't know anything about minecraft either.

>>12423112
>thatsthepoint.png
Its Cover’s way of telling all the 2views and wannabe trend hopping faggots who only see it as a chance to get big then try to run the moment they get the Cover buff to fuck off.

>>12423112
because thats not what the tweet is saying at all. do your reps, google cant translate for shit
It says the live2d designs they showed off on March will not be used as no one fits or want the design. they're basically saying the design are shit so fans of the artist can stop expecting the design to be used by future members or at all.

>>12401734
Good designs dont want 75% of their earnings to not go into their bank accounts

>>12393992
extremely based.

>>12423733
>want the design
>thousands of girls apply for design

>design are shit
>Guras hole in chest/Irys whitewashing skin tone are fixable as is any other avatar

>>12423989
who are you quoting?

>>12417544
>having standards turns women into antis
Accurate.

>>12423746
like a 0 viewer like calli suddenly having 1.5m subs just because of hololive, and you think they dont want it?

>>12425090
>having standards
sana was a diversity hire recommended by Ina and omega is a tranny vtweeter

>>12425209
Did cali have a good design?
Also
>EN