/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>12412751
So /vt/, when do we gonna make final yab?

he cant copy the voice

>>12413445
In real time. He did copy her voice though. An edited voiceover will sound way better.

>>12412751
Sounds robotic desu

>>12412751
Honestly deepfakes and voice cloning technology scares me, feels like we are going too far.

>>12412751
This is hardly surprising when you've seen how good deepfake videos of real people can get. The only impressive part is the efficiency of creating the model off of a single picture. Anyways it changes nothing because 1 the voice is still way off and 2 even with perfect voice emulation nobody is going to believe a deepfake for long if it isn't on an official youtube channel.

>>12413664
Imagine what else is out there that isn't available to the general public

>>12413664
We are not going far enough to be honest. This is why blockchain exist if you ask me. It's to verify the fakes to the originals.

You posted your own video, didn't you, Squidward?

>>12413664
Well, it could be used as a weapon to cancel someone or falsify evidence if they aren't indistinguishable from the real one. I think the general population has at least heard of deepfakes but probably wouldn't be able to tell one apart unless it's really obvious like terrible rendering like you'd see in a bad CGI movie or subject matter. I pretty sure Martha Stewart isn't secretly a Nazi planning to exterminate the jews with her cooking. Bias of believability will determine if they take whatever is posted online at face value or put a little scrutitiny on what is presented as "fact".

Though, twitter doesn't have that filter and is just the modern day digital witch hunt at this point that it probably doesn't matter to them what is fact or fiction. If you hate someone once you're obligated to hate them for life, no matter how much they might have changed as a person because growing up from mistakes doesn't exist on social media.

>>12412751
deepfake deez nuts lmao https://youtu.be/R1zwYxfZeVo

Cover is officially obsolete.

>>12413664
It's no different from photoshop and that hasn't ruined everything.

>>12413951
They really aren't the same thing anon

>>12413911
Some of those are fucking spot on. Cover is obsolete.

>>12413996
How is it different?

>>12414015
I can't see anybody impersonating someone with a photoshopped image

>>12413664
yeah ok jeremy

>make some video drama
>make it as low quality as possible
>have it recorded from a phone
>say that it is a leak
>the video was deleted
At least 40% of people would believe the drama.

>>12414165
(you)

>>12414082
I look forward to the days where people fuck small children and deepfake them to sound like Gura. The media would its mind trying to blame it on anyone other than their childfucking democrat Patrons.

>>12414222
Yeah I have no idea what you're talking about. Maybe go back to /b/?

>>12412751
The biggest indicator of fakeness is actually that it's too animated. Anyone who actually watches vtubers knows that their live2d's are way stiffer than what that thing produces. Gura's iris' don't shrink, nor can her head tilt independently side to side like that. Same with the fubuki example.

>>12414082
Not like we stopped using documents just because they could be forged with photoshop.

>>12414561
Impersonating someones voice is on another level from forging documents

>>12414442
Fuck. You're right. Is this the end of riggers?

>>12414824
You wish.

>>12412751

wow
soon my virtual wife will call people niggerfaggot on stream and play Angry Goy 2
What a time to be alive

>>12412751
This is basically crack for /vt/ sisters.

>>12412751
Live2D riggers made completely worthless.
Fuck L2D.

>>12412751
CLAIM YOUR VTUBER
https://waifulabs.com/

>>12414442
That can be trivially modified on a per-person basis. This is just some shit thrown together as an experiment.
Made in to a proper, fully fledged tool for Vtubing it could have all those options and considerably more so.
Riggers, hell, L2D itself, has always been the worst part about L2D. It fucking sucks as a technology. In every single way.
It's a hacky piece of shit that requires way more work than is necessary when lots of the stuff done could be automated away with software and these experiments have only proven such.
The sooner L2D dies, the better for the industry at large.

>>12415437
Oh shit. This plus that shit in the video can make an instant model for vtubers. The future is here. I just hope they can increase the fps.

>>12412751
We can save them

>>12412751
This is better than her rigging...

>>12413335
...

>>12415611
KEK

4chan vtuber contest can finally have rigs

>>12412751
Thats pretty cool, ive drawn plenty of character designs that are just A posing, i checked out the rigging but its very time consuming. If its a useable tool i could test my stuff out easily and see the characters come alive that would be very helpful.

>>12415716
*contestants

>>12415716
You reminded me I saw a video of someones basic-ass rig of the design everyone wanted to win. I cannot be bothered trying to find it again, it was in a mess of thousands of videos.

>>12413911
Holy shit that Korone impression, she even got the laugh

>>12413335
resurrection

>>12414687
It's an okay impersonation. It's still obvious for anyone who actually watches them that it is a fake voice.

The good thing is that in a couple of years you will no longer need to hire live2d riggers and only with your PNG you can jump to Vtuber.

>>12414442
Why not just design characters that would be compatible for this technology?

>>12415928
If startup or aspiring company really want to ge a head start they should invest in the tech right now.

>>12414165
Don't forget to put liveleak to make it genuine or chinese youtube logo

I’ve done AI work in audio so I had a feeling this was going to eventually happen with vtubers. It’s going to change things in a big way. You’ll be able to create designs by using randomisation and then you refine whatever cool thing it spits out. Rigging will be done for you. More emphasis will be put on the person behind the avatar because everyone will have good rigging. Stars like kson that are carried by their designs and rigging will be fucked.

Look at smartphones these days which have fully optimised because of competition. All good, all look the same, all boring and you can’t really go wrong. What differentiates them? Fucking cameras. The same shit will happen with vtubers. I just don’t know what the ‘camera’ of vtubing will be.

>>12412751
If you want to become the next Iron Vertex this is your shot. He jumped on the L2D tech really early and now he's one of he biggest names in L2Drigging. If you jump on this tech now you can become a big name in the industry

>>12412751
I'll use this to declare war on china

>>12414165
>upload it about a company
>get absolutely shat on by the law.
Well unless you live in some country nobody has heard the name of.

>>12413911
bitch should do a good model impression

>>12416169
Starting your own vtuber company is going to become a lot less expensive

Holobronies are literally, literally LITERALLY brony-tier. This is literally, unironically the Pony Preservation Project.

>>12413445
TTS vtubers won't be a problem

>>12416387
Sure but why the qualification? It's not like any other vtuber's fanbase is any better. Hell, they overlap.

>>12413664
Most scaring thing is this thing is this technology is in diapers.
Skynet will become real eventually

>>12415937
Mokujin Vtubers lets gooooooo

>>12416553
>Trannytuber
Yeah no

>>12414165
>leak of them using a model
That literally makes no sense.

>>12412751
Maybe with this technology someone can make Gura entertaining.

>>12416340
kek

>>12413753
There's pleanty of clips from unarchived streams out there or you might claim it's YABE that was edited out from the regular one as does happen. Who's to say Kiara didn't claim during an 7 hour spacha reading stream that her role model is the Waffen SS and she commemorates Rodolf Hess right before a cat tangent??

>>12418250
With technology advances, we will finally get to the point that nobody can tell the difference

>>12415920
Yeah but obviously this can be improved, that's what scares me. The future of this technology.

>>12413664
You dont want your very own Gura to say whatever you want it to? Faggot

>>12412751
Somehow that single image tracking is better than some Cover's rigging

>>12418960
Not really

>>12412751
How is it that deepfake Gura has better rigging than the real Gura?

>>12413761
Nothing more impressive.
The only way private tech could improve on what is public is by using stronger hardware.

Can't wait to have my personal hololive member living in my pc saying how much she loves me

>>12419073
Didn't Sony or some other company shelve a voice changer technology because they feared what it would become in the public hand or am i misremembering heavily?

>>12412751
>the deepfake has better tracking than the original.
Lmao, Cover on suicide watch

>morons being impressed by deepfake Gura
>Not realizing this is just Yagoo playing 4D chess by making the real one a lot easier to spot and preventing yabs.

>>12418960
I would like to voice chat in games using Gura's voice. Sounds fun.

>>12419113
Like misremembering. Voice shit is extremely hard and processor intensive. Even something as basic as filtering background noise is an extremely hard process, much less isolating the voices you do want and modulating it correctly

>We have the technology to bring her back

>>12412751
How long until you can have your own personal vtuber.

I was going to actually try this out but
>requires iPhone

>>12419215
>Even something as basic as filtering background noise is an extremely hard process, much less isolating the voices you do want and modulating it correctly

and yet there's AIs (like LALAL) readily available that do this already

Give it a few years and deep fakes will be indistinguishable from originals

>>12419451
Maybe in a few years, but I don't think it's been done already yet.
Personally I'm still skeptical, maybe to the human eye/ear it will be but I wouldn't be surprised if there were digital signatures you could derive from AI generated works that would make exposing them relatively easy. (E.G. animations being too smooth is a common one you can see with the eye, this would be even more obvious to an AI looking for it)

>>12419052
NiggerRigger Umuishi!

>>12419451
>Give it a few years and deep fakes will be indistinguishable from originals
Reminds me of everyone and their mom screaming about photoshops but anyone who has spent even half a second on such software and tell what is and what isn't photoshop, like a stray pixel or faulty colored seams between the real and fake.
If you're gullible to believe everything on the internet then you're either a boomer who should have died out already, a retarded zoomer who just came in or just retarded.
Besides, it will be a good thing more than bad since if such deepfakes are hard to distinguish people can easily deny all evidence and shit as deepfakes, like how everyone dismiss every damning photographic event as a photoshop.

I see no downside here.

>>12412751
This isn't the final yab yet.
I need to be able to make Gura say "nigger", but I'm too lazy to learn all that shit.

>>12419880
The last part is the downside imo. People won't be held accountable for things they should be because they can just blame AI when presented with proof.

>>12419921
>People won't be held accountable
Only poor people can be accountable for shit anyway.

>>12413911
is it really an impression if you just shout their one catchphrase?

>>12420112
Yes. The point of an impression isn't to show off an entire 3 hour chat segment, its a filtered down mockery of the person.

Deepfakes are already extremely advanced and there's a fair chance most of the politicians, events and people you assume are real don't actually exist. To be blunt I absolutely believe this. The Anon who wrote the "Dead Internet Theory" on wizchan years ago hinted strongly at this.

tl:dr in this case is that the vast majority of celebrities, e-celebs, politicians and events are simply manufactured deepfakes and CGI. Unless you have witnessed an event in person it is impossible to prove it has actually happened, and entire wars and events can just be CGI'd into news and public consciousness by the media pretending and probably not even knowing they are fake.

>>12420280
Wow...you really need some meds. This is an automatic response. This is a message that you know to much and we are currently on our way to your location. Do not run, for we are already tracking you. Do not resist, it will only make it harder for yourself. It will be over soon. Thank you for your cooperation.

>>12412751
Free alt outfits

>>12412751
Does it only 'rig' faces? Can he same tech be used for objects?

>>12412751
now make porn from it

>>12412751
when a deepfake is more expressive than the actual rig provided by cover. fucking nigger company

>>12413664
we'll have to be more mindful but the authentication technology we already have covers the worse case scenario.
the only people who are going to get tricked by deep fake stuff already fall for facebook conspiracies without any fancy technology behind it.

>>12426037
leave annoying orange alone

We’re still maybe 10-15 years out from a solid personalized v-tuber in a box, but it’s coming and there are thousands and thousands of hours of recordings they can pump into the machine learning algorithms to train it.

>>12413664
Good, accelerate

>>12412751
>zentreya is now fully replicable and replaceable by anyone

>>12412751
what has this guy released upon this world. shut it down

>>12413784
>Blockchain
Boy, I can't wait for the real energy crisis this causes.

>>12434498
>real energy crisis this causes.
Stop spouting mainstream media bullshit. People waste more energy keeping on unused lights than for blockchain.

>>12413911
This is what we call a simulacrum, she can intimidate the voices and mannerisms, but only for a short time. Try and ask her to do an entire stream, and she'd run out of gas 15 minutes in.
Also unless you're looking to be just seen as a scab in the voice acting industry, you always create your own voices rather than just mimic others.

>>12434663
>t. restarting old dirty fuel power plants just to count imaginary numbers.
Both are a problem and should be ended.

>>12434756
>imaginary
Your money is imaginary. Value is imaginary.

>>12413784
dude let me just put my voice and face on the blockchain

>>12413784
You don't even need blockchain. Current deepfakes can be detected by simple neural networks. Their "artificiality" is very noticeable when analyzed as data.

>>12418889
It will be the best, because men can actually behave, be funny and be entertaining, unlike women who need to be beaten up every day to not like act like whores.

>>12418889
Finally, some good guilt-free ERP.

>>12413664
https://youtu.be/Zkrcx3_DtCw?t=46
https://youtu.be/Zkrcx3_DtCw?t=46
https://youtu.be/PCBTZh41Ris
https://youtu.be/PCBTZh41Ris

>>12415866
WHERE THE FUCK IS CHRIS?!

>>12436070
I've tried the first one with a vtuber model as reference. It can't make it dance. It always fail.

Hopefully this puts rhombus riggers out of their jobs

>>12450747
Rhombus riggers get work from Cover, the most incompetent company in the vtubing industry. Their jobs are going nowhere.

>>12434900
Block chain is imaginary and a waste of resources then

>>12415716
>>12415757
we should make an AI 4chan vtuber. like taytay but streaming 24/7, learning from chat

>>12454732
someone will eventually hook something like GPT3 to something like live2d and life as we know it will end

>>12413445
Motion is also wrong. Real models are much stiffer when they turn, they can't flex their neck as is happening in the example (or at least cover's software can't, maybe other software is better about that).
Not to say that problem isn't insurmountable but this still won't stand up to scrutiny right now.

>>12450747
This AI shit is already miles better than Umiushit's rigging, kek.