/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Just fuckin' do it.
Don't think. Just hit the go button.

Everyone breaks TOS, even the idol types. Whether YouTube turns a blind eye or not depends on how big you are.

Do it you fucking faggot

>>12442432
No one will go after you for TOS unless you're big enough to be noticed. And unless you're doing something wildly out of the norm, there will always be a counterexample that your defenders can point to from someone successful.

>>12442432
It's better to regret doing it, then regret never doing it and wondering what could've happened. Life is shorter than you think. Don't waste it worrying too much over things that haven't happened yet.

>>12442432
Do you get gripped by crippling anxiety every time you try to do anything in your life? Being an entertainer probably isn't for you. It was stupid of you to waste two thousand dollars on what I would hope was actually a model+rigging+stream elements.

>>12442432
nah, most of companies don't care at all if you're a small streamer

>>12442432
>>>/trash/42873929
Crash this thread with no survivors. Only the strongest will survive.

>>12442432
>>12352522
>>12421402

>>12443089
"ately there's been more and more people getting hit for Twitch TOS "attire" violations, and not just the vshojo chick from her debut last year. It's probably one of the only things a vtuber specifically would get hit for. That being said, just don't break attire rules or say nigger/faggot and you probably won't be banned from twitch.

>>12443330
why is it in trash?

>>12443268
fuck you this reply alone is enough to make me do it lol

thanks anons <3

>>12443678
Historical reasons. The one in /vt/ is called the front desk, the one in /trash/ in the back desk.

>>12442432
Stop being a pussy and just debut. If you want a based audience then simply stream based content that promotes traditional masculinity and femininity and has nothing to do with niggers, trannies, faggots, feminism, or (((leftism))) in general. The proper people will gravitate towards you. Also if you're a girl post tits or GTFO.

>>12443728
ty <3<3<3<3<3

>>12443801
lol fag

>>12443431
This is one of those things that is due to regulations not catching up with the times, same as DMCA. But it's still better to be early, build your audience, and deal with these unjust things, than hope for some better time that might never come for years.

>>12442432
>don't stream copyright music
>don't be a /pol/tard
>don't be a /r9k/bot
That's literally all you have to do as an indie and not be banned.

>>12443678
trash also allows them to post porn

>>12442432
You just cant name the jew directly or talk about the holocaust, use code words that could be denied but if you know you know. Also avoid any hard r’s and if you get in trouble for a “nigga” just say you are black.

>>12442432
Learn to RP you fucking retard, vtubing isn't about streaming with an avatar it's about role-playing as a character. Learn how to be someone else instead of being some insecure anxious faggot.

Reading the terms won't do much but paralyze you, they're written so they can get rid of you for any or no reason, but the chances of that probably aren't terribly likely if you aren't egregious. Just do it and have fun, fuck jannies.

>>12443937
Realistically you can say whatever you want as long as you don't hot drop any slurs.

>>12443937
>>12444063
you must be new to the internet

>>12442432
We have /wvt/, Kaneko Lumi, Pippa Pipkin, Kiki, Nadeshiko, (new girls from Prism and kawaii) and a lot more all spouting 4chan memes and doing weird ass shit all the time and they're in a far more precarious situation with eyes on them compared to you who has absolutely no fanbase and 0 viewers in comparison.

Just start and you need to grow first before you can get cancelled one day.

>>12442432
Literally don't think. Thay's how normies live life.

>>12444063
If OP wants to be a vtuber, acting like a bigot will make you radioactive to every other chuuba on the platform. No one will collab with you if you come off as racist and/or sexist.

>>12442432
Post your Twitter.

Stream to Twitch. Your first month of streaming or first three months is a practice run, just think of that.

>>12444464
Didn't read the thread, but yeah. Appealing to /here/ is a huge fuck-up and there is no real reason to do so other than autism. OP should see this as an oportunity to make new friends and just have fun, generally. You can still voice your opinions, as long as you don't sound literally retarded. In real life, people don't care if you think gays should die or whatever as much as you think they do. Really. Just be yourself, and don't overdo it.

>>12443872
It's not years, everyone hit by it has been hit in the last 8 or so months, most within weeks of their debut. Two I'm aware of were hit after their debut and they had less than 30 people at them.

>>12443872
>This is one of those things that is due to regulations not catching up with the times, same as DMCA
Actually it's not, I'm fairly sure the TOS specifies that 3D and 2D avatars the streamer is controlling have these rules applied to them, it's to keep things somewhat fair so that VTubers can't just break rules that IRL streamers would have to stay to, though from what I've seen Vtubers still get away with a fair bit more.

>>12444084
There's no such boogeyman, stop believing in it.

>>12442432
In the words of the collab ruiner, "MAKE CONTENT"
Just fucking do it.

>>12444050
Playing a character will wear you the fuck out.
You need to have a balance between being lore friendly, and being yourself.
Streaming for hours on end is exhausting as it is.
Even the GTA RPers gets to bUrself with their chat.

>>12443678
Twittertrannies and schizos want to roam free without jannies.

>>12442432
Do it pussy

>>12444464
>>12444084
Go back.

>>12442432
Just don't say nigger or faggot and you will be fine concerning the TOS.

>>12445207
Do you ever have a lucid moment where you wish you weren't so neurotic?

>>12445214
not even faggot? geez. at least i am esl.

>>12445311
Most lucid moment I've had is understanding that if I censor myself human leeches like you end up winning in the long run.

>>12442432
>ive been gathering the balls to finally hit the stream+upload button
It's not as easy as just hitting the stream button. Being a chuuba is almost like starting a kickstarter; the pre-debut hype is almost as important as the debut itself. So that means before your debut you'll need to shill the hell out of your debut everywhere and even spend a few bux on youtube ads. If you couldn't even reached 500 subs before the debut then it'll be a long tough hill to climb

My 2 cents

>>12444050
fuck off i am not playing a character, id rather kms
im using my real voice and mostly real personality with some bits nerfed for TOS. obviously that includes amplifying myself for contents' sake but im not faking shit

>>12444464
i am not concerned with collabing with people who wouldnt want to if they knew 5% of my actual personality

my intention isnt to prioritize growth, i just like making high-effort content and a small loyal fanbase would be cool

my threshold for succeeding is if im proud of my own content and not banned yet lel

>>12444660
yeah im trying to find a middleground between autism and clean, id like to think i have enough nuance to not come off as strictly appealing to channers for the sake of being performatively based
refraining from nigger/faggot should be easy enough
retard is fine still right? what about sped/sperg/other "ableist" stuff, thats safe TOS-wise i think?

Look at the 2views on youtube (the ones with actual nice modesl) and try to identify what theyre are doing wrong.
Using a "natural" voice is really good on the long run (see Cali from hololive and Elira from nijisanji)
Expect failure, but try your best. You know its hard, vtubers are oversaturated and theres a million cute smart and entertaining girls doing it nowadays.

If youtube wont work out, there's always Odysee

>>12444050
Very few indies play a character aside from maybe a twist on their personality. It tends to filter the fuck out of people

>>12445475
>retard is fine still right? what about sped/sperg/other "ableist" stuff, thats safe TOS-wise i think?
Try to avoid using slurs and buzzwords. I know there is big faggotry surrounding them nowadays, but they just make you sound dumb. Treat your opinions naturally and not like you are some kind of cyberpunk MC.

In the end, it doesn't matter what you say, but what side you are on. If a certain kind of people don't like you, they will move every stray to make you seem like the worst person alive. They are that petty.

>>12443089
Nigger, eggman got banned off from Youtube and he only has like 100 viewers on his stream. If he can be banned for superfluous reasons, anyone could

>>12445475
Everything besides racial and slurs that target someone's sexuality or "sexual identity" are fair game.

>>12445661
100 viewers definitely qualifies for being noticed.

>>12445475
>retard is fine still right? what about sped/sperg/other "ableist" stuff, thats safe TOS-wise i think?
That is definitely not TOS safe.
Basically the rule of thumb is that any "derogatory humor/terms" you use have to punch above your weight class.

>>12444050
>he actually thinks Holos play a character before they blew up out of nowhere
There was a time when Rushia used to share her thoughts on marriage and her getting worried that her prospects are dwindling each year.

>>12445730
He has to be creative to make em funnier. Basketball americans for example

>>12445730
Retard is TOS-safe, as are most things aside from >>12445730 as long as you're not targeting someone in chat with it. Context of the terms are taken into consideration, it's why some people get away with it and some don't. Usually the banned people are directly insulting a specific viewer or streamer when doing it. "Wow, that was retarded." isn't the same as "You're a retard Glopglop191"

>>12445937
this is what i assumed yeah, i use generic slurs in daily speech but i can easily refrain from using it in a way that people would take as a "personal attack" (aside from those who consider any usage to be an attack, ive lost them already lol)

>>12445867
>he
wouldnt trannies 'n jannies take this as WORSE than just saying the word outright? i feel like this is asking for trouble LOL

i think i got the general gist, thanks for the input

>>12446299
>>he
oh yeah, there is that too. fuck, i can refrain from using the t-word, but in no way i am calling a man a "she"

>>12446299
I assume everyone as a dude on the Internet till proven otherwise. And yes, trannies count as "he"

>>12446385
>>12446413
LOL
am i uncultured or are a large portion of western vtubers that put actual effort into their content tranny men? i cant tell if this is something that will actually be questioned or if its generic "girls on internet dont exist" banter

>>12446582
Are you fucking retarded? How could I know someone from an anonymous imageboard is a girl unless they have posted their tits/vocaroo with their timestamp? Make that joggin of yours workin

>>12352522

hey homie, if you want to discuss your /asp/irations we have a general for that. They're generally friendly unless you go full schizo AND they have a bunch of useful things.

go and stream

>>12446582
>am i uncultured
yes. there's no trannies making good content

>>12446640
i figured vtubing was synonymous with being female you retard i dont see many men out here, its a female-dominated genre. the only people who watch male vtubers are fem coomers and people on this board are far from that
>>12446758
thanks, ill go back to chilling there from here on out, think ive had everything i initially wondered answered

gg, thanks guys, im just gonna do the thing and be smart about navigating

>>12442432
Lumi might be your closest bet. All of her mods are /here/ and she commentated /vt/ divegrass and 4cc without breaking ToS or getting cancelled. Her audience is about 50/50 between people from 4ch and normies.

>>12447034
is it possible for you to drop a link or some place to contact you?

>>12447078
big stacy energy

Just stream, I went ahead and streamed even as I wait for my model to be completed to gain experience (voice only, don't want to get doxxed like my oshi if I ever join a company)

>>12442432
just do as the oppai loli maid says

>>12442618
This is the best advice for literally every single hobby that does not carry any risk of death or shit like that

Unironically try Rumble. Their infrastructure has been pretty good the past month, especially with the week Crowder got supended from YT.

Alternateively, Odysee. I know a few podcasts that do live shows there. not sure about the monetization.

>>12451301
You can send their version of superchats through a crypto system used by the LRBY network. Its a bit daunting to normalfags but other than that, its pretty good

>>12451369
does that tie into some blockchain/crypto thing? I know Minds does someting like that, not sure about the alt tech video sites.

"Oooh, can I say nigger and faggot on stream? I'm worried it'll slip out and I'll get banned :("

How the fuck do you function? I hope this is is a bit , otherwise it's pathetic that you think you're just gonna start throwing that shit around. This field is 100% talking, you know? Maybe find one where you won't be so retarded as to drop slurs on debut.

>>12451398
I think so?
https://explorer.lbry.com/?_ga=2.191960495.423107394.1635933411-346613563.1635933411

>>12451470
>hurr I hate fun
faggots like you are the reason why the Internet is so dull these days. And you wonder why that's the case

>>12442432
stream faggot, pander to the lowest common denominator like kiki, gosling bait, act dependent on your viewers in unhealthy ways. get that free pc because you need an obligatory upgrade, blame anons
after for getting to attached, make up , then keep lying to keep your audience of autists and man children

>>12451557
I'm not personally offended, I'm more just shocked someone would think they could violate the twitch ToS just by "being genuine." No filter on this fuckwit? Just gonna go out and be cringe till you get banned?

>>12447277
for what purpose? it is available

>>12451301
i had looked into alternatives - i think ill restream to at least one alt streaming service and upload to bitchute or some shit, at least before i can make a backlog big enough to justify hosting it somewhere myself

>>12451470
nobody said this but you, if you read the goddamn thread youd see me specifically saying i do not plan to say nigger and faggot
stop projecting, sperg. not once did i express a lack of self-control or say im worried about slipping up - im planning ahead to see what is doable and what isnt. if my absence of self-control was so large that i didnt have the power to choose my own fucking words i wouldnt need to ask any of that would i lol

>>12442432
>ive been gathering the balls
>but
No buts just fucking gather some more balls

>>12451672
balls grown, thanks anon

>>12451649
log off and gain some reading comprehension

>>12451668
Dont upload shit on bitchute. They're slowly cracking down on their users lately. Odysee is just so much better

>>12451668
First question;
How new are you to 4chan?

>>12451796
started browsing easily 7ish years ago, didnt start using actively until maybe 4? years ago? /a/ /v/ /vg/ ive used consistently, had a /pol/ phase, obligatory /cgl/ since femanon, throw in some skimming out of curiosity

What do your model look like

>>12451911
debating how faggy it is to publicize myself here, purpose of the thread wasnt self-promo. i dunno man its cute and it moves and stuff

>>12451962
Just make shorts videos on Youtube

OP I've watched a number of /here/tubers for varying lengths of time and none of them have been seriously cancelled. Actually, they tend to run out of steam after a while and just stop uploading on their own initiative.

>>12444050
The only roleplay my oshi does is as a bloodthirsty psychopathic murderer when her lore or design has zero relationship to it

>>12451872
Fine. Go to /asp/ and /wvt/ for advice. Lurk around to see what they're up to, and go read their paste bin. Link to the threads.
>>12352522 - Help desk and guides, has Alumni like Terumi and Lumi
>>12421402 - The front desk of /wvt/. On-topic discussion. Introduce yourself here.
>>>/trash/42873929 - the backrooms. Has helpful advice drawn from actual experience, plenty of vtubers here have been streaming for a year or more now. Be warned, schizoposting is rampant. Do not self-post and learn to integrate.

Go to the big company generals like NijiEN and Hololive Global to get a gauge of their interests.
Check the catalog for weird but maybe useful requests, sometimes you get gems like anons screaming to the avoid about wanting to see someone play Dragon's Dogma.
Open the small company generals to also gauge their interests, some of them offer unique niches and it clearly pays off, like the mentioned Lumi above. All of them are /here/ and learn from their mistakes on how NOT to engage with the 4chan audience.
And whatever you do, lurk moar.

>>12442432
most of the "modern" successes had no one to look up to either. they paved their own path.

you're never going to make it if you're just trying to cash in on a formula.

>>12451668
But why would it even cross your mind? Any rational person would know you probably can't say that. Maybe get those two brain cells you have knocking together focused on something productive. I'm gonna give you the NGMI stamp, you're clearly too stupid for this.

>>12442432
Post your voice

>>12451668
>for what purpose
just so I can pick your brain on how you're going to approach vtubing and stuff like that

>>12452095
genuinely helpful, thanks anon.

>>12452220
ill selfpost in /wvt/ later

>>12452236
give me an email and ill reach out! im obviously not terribly worried about being discreet with this thread but it seems jewy to promo or whatever here

>>12452394
Why later?

>>12452456
writing script for video rn, on that vtard grindset

>>12442432
You're supposed to stream 4fun as an indie since you don't have to follow stupid rules besides the very obvious stuff, just do it

>>12442432
>ive had a fully functional $2k+ model for months
Sounds like a pretty terrible idea, I hope you have a bit of streaming experience, never spend like that for someone you don't even know you like or can do properly, too many people do this huge mistake.
But as you seem not to know much about TOS etc. I'm having doubts about that.

Anyway TOS shit is pretty random, if you're small you get away with a lot of shit unless some dedicated antis report you constantly, like how they got beatani twitter suspended. But she still have VODs where some loli +18 doujin pictures were shown up for a long time on youtube so yeah, as long as you don't scream slurs left and right every minute you should be fine.

>>12442432
>i aspire for a based audience but i have no idea how to accumulate it safely
>spent 2K$+ on model and stuff with apparently not experience
recipe for disaster, I hope you're a male on top of that just to really drive the nail in

>>12445730
Beatani uses retard or autist constantly, and the japanese card doesn't really work when all your content is in english. The only issue she had was too many "kill yourself" on twitter with suicide cult mentions but never had any issue on youtube.

>>12452886
I look forward to this trainwreck, getting shades of schizos past here.

>>12444223
Surprised you named basicaly all here chuubas but the one openly dropping slurs and similar on stream for your examples
https://streamable.com/cq738r
https://streamable.com/2l3yy5

>>12442432
You sound like someone I really want to watch.

>>12443268
Based

>>12445340
>ESL
Dropped. Unless you're Japanese.

>>12452613
As always OP never put out

>>12443678
Bwfore /vt/, western chubba threads like vshojo had to be in trash inatead of jp

Your awful personality show through, Anon. Unless you get your shit together and get a bit of smart into that head you'll get the worst possible fanbase. If that's your goal, good luck. I can already savour the menhera outcome.

>>12442432
If only a pic was shown

>>12442432
/here/ vtubers are utter cancer, and you don't even have the confidence to stream.
don't even bother trying, you wasted your money and you are retarded

I'm feeling a little bit better about my /asp/irations because I haven't commissioned anything and I seem to be on track to debut by the date I set for myself. Who has over $2,000 to drop on something they aren't going to actually use for months??

>>12442432
>an audience of pansies who think im someone that i am not
people change and so you should.

>>12458542
an autistic trust fund faggot

>>12458542
Show the model

>>12453032
Bea is special
You cant compare the 71 iq bear to anyone
https://youtu.be/qSNV1WBV-ok?t=6604

>>12458800

>>12459052
Show the model

>>12459105
He just did.
Introducing Luke "No way fag" Roosevelt, the latest and greatest >here chuuba!

>>12459725
That's right. But in all seriousness, I don't want to share it here because I don't want to brand myself as a /here/ vtweeter months before my first stream.

>>12442432
Same, I've had my model for 6 months now

>>12459825
Just use this https://litterbox.catbox.moe

Go for it man. Don't let censorship and cancel culture stop you. What have you got to lose, your non-existent vtuber career? Just make sure you follow good opsec so when the /wvt/ trannies can't dox you.

Having an internet personality that actually speaks there mind and isn't just another drone cow-towing towards social norms is always refreshing, regardless of their political alignment. I'm a big support of free speech on the internet, and I will support any chuuba that has their own opinion on things and the balls to say them.

>>12460499
Generally speaking if you're gonna "just speak your mind" it helps to not be ignorant though.
People respect someone that is above the normalfag public's acceptable level of discourse, not someone who sniffs their own farts and brags about it.

>>12460644
Yes, this. The last thing I would want to watch is a vtuber that styles themselves after a political pundit.

>>12460644
Agreed, stay away from topics that you aren't really that familiar with. But having said that, just because you're not an expert on things doesn't mean you're not allowed to have an opinion. Working in IT, I can say a lot of so called "experts" are fucking horrible at their jobs. Often getting an outsiders perspective is refreshing. Just don't try to present it as facts or you'll come across as a dumbass.

>>12442432
Retard, if I can stream with a rigged model of HFZ watame and just a corsair void elite for a mic then you can stream with actual resources.

>>12453032
Because Bea is special and japanese. There's no way anyone can cancel her.

>>12460499
dont let any nijisanjiEN viewers read your post

>>12460917
Why?

>>12460902
The only vtuber to get anywhere near "cancelled" was the EN chick who was fucking her 8 year old brother last year.

contact me!
https://twitter.com/bunnyonvt

>>12460955
They just got a high profile political activist infiltrating their newest gen

>>12460995
...excuse me?

>>12461001
You're not my wife, get out of here larper.

>>12460995
What about Carol who was grooming IRL kids?

>>12461014
I have no problems with this. Free speech goes both ways. If a commie is allowed, we should also be able to get vtubers who are allowed to sing moonman:

https://streamable.com/v3hsj5

>>12461027
its me anon..
https://voca.ro/1lbQw2T5JF4K

>>12460995
>EN chick who was fucking her 8 year old brother
Jesus what the fuck? Who was that?

>>12461085
I don’t want to watch that kind of content and I hope it doesn’t become popular

>>12461101
You had that vocaroo saved, I still don't believe you.

https://vocaroo.com/1cxkBWovCOq5

>>12461085
Neither is fine retard
Dont come to vtubing to push your political dogshit

>>12461179
let me change my bio to have
"its me" in it
:^)

>>12461169
>>12461211
The point is you should have the freedom to watch whatever kind of content you want to watch without having to worry about censorship, if you don't want to watch a chuuba that gets into politics and is a kayfabe purist then stick to those.

>>12461241
I can't believe my oshi had her twitter account hacked my some larper

>>12461289
STOP BULLYING ME GOOSE

>>12461085
It doesn't actually work like that though, commies talk about redistributing wealth and /pol/ larpers talk about restarting the civil war and exterminating non-whites. They're not two sides of the same coin, one is a lot more welcoming and accepting than the other. You can be a open communist on stream and not exclude anyone from your streams while getting along fine with non-communists as their ideology doesn't revolve around dehumanizing others. You can't do the same while being an open racist and so no one will want to associate with you as it will harm their own fanbase.

Also Nina isn't a commie she used a fucking tiktok meme on stream one time.

>>12460902
She got permabanned from twitter thought for suicide jokes

>>12461046
And pretending to be a teen to get actual teens/kids trust and fuck over other people
Still waiting for her to ever return, after she vanished forever the day incriminating document about her got posted. She has answers to give.

>>12461369
spoonfeed me on her?

>>12461317
Go to bed Kiki

>>12461407
ok fine sorry...

>>12461334
/pol/ doesn't want to exterminate non-white, those are just memes to trigger snowflakes

>>12461448
I'm not them and I don't really disagree with you, but isn't that a pretty strange thing to spend your free time LARPing about? I really can't stand that board, honestly.

>>12461509
/pol/ is a big board with many different political persuasions. I'd say the actual nazi larpers there are the minority, a lot of it is ironic shitposting. There is a lot of people who just like /pol/ humor, and that is what attracts me to the board personally. I find offensive things funny, more so if it triggers people. I don't actually hate minorities that much, except for maybe the jews.

>>12461406
she's vanished forever now so no real need, some schizo into lolicon/guro larping as a teen who got too close to the sun, got into some cancel drama but it backfired a bit and she disappeared forever when asked to prove she was a teen like claimed

>>12461448
Well they succeeded in making the snowflakes believe it.
It was unironically easier to be right-wing on the internet before everything became associated with a singular race-focused ideology that feels exclusionary to everyone that doesn't fit into the "chosen race". No one cares about your based beliefs regarding guns or economics when racism is the one thing the right constantly dogwhistles over. If those beliefs are in fact not genuine and just trolling then it's either a brilliant falseflag or a brilliant self-destruction right around the time the internet became way more politicized.
EN vtubers can't even talk about their views without being heavily scrutinized for being potentially racist if their views are at all /pol/-adjacent. Look at Pippa who has never actually been publicly racist and is careful to toe the line on what is acceptable political discourse but because she likes libertarianism and guns every discussion about her turns into /pol/ vs anti-/pol/ and accusations of racism.

In summary if you're gonna be a basedtuber its best to avoid politics entirely and focus on other topics that offend normies like lolis(only if you're female) or hating vegans or something.

>>12461669
More power to you, I just don't have it in me to engage in online contrarianism with stakes as high those on /pol/. I have good faith disease and it is terminal.

>>12461807
I imagined that most genuine right-wingers feel that way. Left and right-wingers ultimately have a lot in common, after all.

Is this the stealth pol thread? How do we feel about Artemis of the blue?

Hey, since this thread has a pretty model centric topic, anybody got any tips on how to find a good freelance indie rigger?
I've been considering commissioning a artist friend of mine because I like his style, but I've got no possible connections when it comes to the rigging.
Basically just would like some tips on how to differentiate between good riggers and bad riggers, what a fair price is to hire a freelance rigger, and how difficult self-rigging is, like how Beatani does it.

>>12462425
Unironically, do it yourself. Its really not that hard and you can probably do a good job for a starter yourself
You dont need a million parts all moving at the same time

I've obtained a rare Kiki vocaroo posted in another thread other than /pyon/ bros. I don't know if I should share it with you cretins.

>>12461001
!!! hope restored

>>12462425
look in the live2d discord server, they have a channel for riggers with comms open + price points and examples

>>12464136
>discord
Fuck off tranny

>>12442432
TOS is gay, break all the rules and be epic

>>12465546
you dont have any friends do you

>>12468481
KYS Di*cord tranny

there are only like 20 viewers who bother with desperate /here/tubers who drop epic redpills and newfag memes and they're already split between like 5 vtubers

just stop this is embarrassing

>>12470173
Well first 20 viewers is actually pretty insane to start with, the vast, vaaast majority of indies never reach those numbers even with their best effort and original content. Then it's not quite split, beatani often get 60 to 100 people, kiki 30 to 60, nade 20 to 30 etc.
And most beatani VODs have 1k to 2K views too
So while it's not an instant guaranteed success, if you're willing to deal with the drawbacks, it's absolutely worth it.

>>12451617
many such cases