/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>10k already
Has Mori carved herself out a little niche with these streams

Why is Hololive so popular in Taiwan? NTD is probably the 3rd most donated currency for Holo members.

>>12435262
Unironically geopolitics

>>12435262
Hololive pissed off China. Pulling out of China can be interpreted as siding with Taiwan.

>>12435016
Challenge endurance stream + having possible guests helps

Previous thread
>>12412283

Also based >>12425427
honorary holo now

>>12434843
ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>>12435016
Maybe, her peak last stream with vc is 13-14k 3-4 hrs in the stream, this stream she's already in that number, Let's wait until someone shows up and buff the stream number

>>12435262
Bro... Coco was literally the Bastion of Light when the Taiwan Arc happened. Even pulling weebs to the China-Taiwan issue...

>>12435016
People watch on the off chance their oshi appears to chat with her.

>>12435262
Taiwan +Mainlanders using VPN

>>12436206
Why the Chinese using VPN to TW but not HK?

>>12436206
Taiwan need not to use VPN

Can West Chinks sc in Taiwanese currency?

Any big streams later? I only know team red practice in sportsfest.

>>12434843

Precious Thread >>12412283

>>12435683
>now
Hal has always liked Hololive, he's a unityCHAD.

Does anyone know if Playboard's Super Chat tracking also includes Super Thanks? If it does, what interval does Playboard check to update donation totals?

>>12435683
I was watching his stream when they discussed this. Chat was instantly filled with 'a' . The shark is really fucking famous.

Mainlanders don't use taiwan vpn, to them using taiwan vpn is a disgrace and insult to them. They mostly donate in jpy or hk to chuubas in youtube.

.t someone who spoke to tw anons during cocogate

>>12435016
The "jump king podcast" format has proven to be popular. Hololive 100% has analytics and they caught on the last couple of times she did this she got higher than normal views.

[Number Oddity] Mori has more viewers doing the JK DLC with Ina than she did with Gura in VC or reaching the peak during her last stream.

>>12438026
Time, anon. Its primetime on the west.

>>12438026
timezones are important

>>12435683
Sykkuno, now hal. Shark can't keep winning.

No one check or talk about her but lamy is currently getting good numbers on BOTW 2nd stream.

Her 1st stream peaked at 9k. Her 2nd stream peaked at 12k

>>12438171
Home 3D buff?

When Gura is being lazy, it's a waste of opportunity not to maximize your appearance.

>>12438171
damn that's pretty good. She doesn't have any competition in JP but its too early for JP so it evens out
>>12437516
Their SC tracking isn't even 100% accurate. I doubt they track super thanks

>>12438171
>>12438403
Today is holiday in Japan

>>12438171
Blue Fauna showing dominance on her kohai Green Lamy

>>12438171
Only JP Holo streaming buff

Speaking of taiwan, sora's upcoming concert on spwn is finally free from region block for taiwan and hk area. The speculation back then is cover signed a deal with bilibili for their paid concerts. The deal probably end next year.

Ririsya, a good singer chuuba, announcing a month hiatus and wanting to learn english better. She also did a cover of RIP, the same with Boogie voxx.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM81tQkjuVs

Why are some chuubas trying hard to learn english when they could be where they are and be happy with JOPs?

>>12438171
>over 10k during NA primetime while competing with NA streamers playing a debuff game
I kneel

>>12438684
Same thing to mori then

>>12438906
Japs really like gaijin attention. Feels good to know people who don't even speak your language are willing to watch you despite the language barrier.

>>12439019
She's not the only EN streaming

>>12439019
Kronii is reading superchats holding almost 6k so Mori isn't alone

Are there ever any legit sources for number of members or is it basically guessing until we get a twitch style leak?

>>12439058
>>12439073
Those are kronii base viewers

Gura's over halfway to 4m already while AI is still stuck at 2.98m

>>12439249
Who is Al

Vshojo final daily numbers (peak/average)
Ironmouse - 11901 / 9706
Veibae - 8550 / 7485
Apricot - 6159 / 4150
Zentreya - 3593 / 2769
Apricot - 3521 / 3009

>>12439103
Certain apps give member's stream viewer numbers, although I personally don't know how accurate they are. I remember full-screening Gura's Holoween story stream on my phone and seeing 1.4k viewers live. We also get member's-only poll responses, and someone out there counts unique chatters in member's streams. I'd bet that last one is best, but I haven't seen updated figures in a while. All of these methods will provide a floor but not a ceiling, because even chatting isn't typically 100% engagement.

>>12435262
Mainland bugs still like hololive even if it is illegal.

>>12439056
I feel that these people are late to the game and the era of EOPs flocking to japanese vtubers is dead. Korone is a relic of a bygone era, not an example of a 2021-2022 future.

Millie 1.22k ASMR while being the only NijiEN streaming…

>>12439499
Nah, that era is still far from over. It's just that the coof is gone, and they don't have time for normal streams anymore. Subbed EOPs that don't watch them isn't a disadvantage, it just means that the ceiling for special events is much more larger than it was in the past though I doubt Gura can get another 194k on her outfit reveal. The first one is always the special one, the second one getting delayed is probably Cover fucking it up contracting umiushi again then realizing he did a bad job on the second outfit.

>>12439654
>Cover actually preemptively trying to stop another RIGGER outrage
DRYBI

>>12439692
If it ain't Cover, it's probably omegatranny and Gura shouting their opinions on upper management. They'd rather delay the outfit reveals indefinitely than to get a second disappointment in front of 100k+ people. Gura not using her second outfit all that much proves that she didn't like the outfit and only use it occasionally.

>>12439654
>the second one getting delayed is probably Cover fucking it up contracting umiushi again then realizing he did a bad job on the second outfit
Doubt they give a fuck. It's probably just some scheduling issue.

holodex is fucked

>>12439810
im glad we ve got telepath on this board

>>12439103
You can get viewer numbers through a bug in the YT phone app. Put the member stream in a playlist with at least one other video and it will show the live viewercount.
But overall membercounts? Nope, it's only guessing with some hints.

>>12439318
Why is Zen more popular than Artemis? Is tranny voice more of a debuff than without having a voice at all?

>>12439990
Zen is part of a fairly popular company and Artemis is indie. Plus, I wouldn't personally know, but I've seen it said Artemis has pretty low quality streams and bad schedules.

>>12437882
This is the kind of thing they should have been doing all along, and stuff like the Gura/Kiara horror playthough, and impromptu MC collabs, but were too awkward for whatever reason to do before Gen 2 came.

>>12439990
Zen's popularity went up when the april 1st launch of the 'dragon model' went wrong and resulted in gecko zen

All things considered NijiEN is trending up and is in a good spot for growth.

>>12440256
Hold your horses anon, everyone's going to compare them to HoloEN and laugh at how shit they are, you're not allowed to say anything positive about Nijisanji

>>12440298
Pretty sure he's baiting for (You)s

>>12439499
I think the era of throwing out a couple of English phrases and calling it a day is over. For someone who can get their English to an intelligible level, even if it's just say Haachama level, there is an audience that wants an authentic Japanese streamer not a westerner.

>>12440298
I'm talking about trends, not magnitudes. They are trending up. Soon Selen and others will hit the niji female median and maybe beat the lowest vshojo or holoen.

>>12439990
Artemis is a really boring streamer in general.

>>12440393
>trends
What are you even talking about.

>>12440393
>Soon Selen and others will hit the niji female median
That's not high bar to begin with but happy for Selen I guess

>>12440440
Doing better as time goes on and growing.

>>12440393
There is no others, just Selen. Everyone else has plateaued or declined. Selen's the Gura/Pekora of Niji EN, at this point basically anything she does will easily outclass everyone else in her company by default.

>>12440399
I saw part of a stream on twitch where artemis just stared forward silently for an hour then left, that was the whole stream

>>12440470
Based on what?

>>12440604
Numbers.

>>12440393
this>>12440465
+Selen does it occasionally with good game

>>12440492
Probably a meme stream, like Moona did the other day, or Risu/Ollie's "typing sounds" streams. Normally he just streams like normal but is super low energy and doesn't really talk about anything engaging.

>>12440483
>anything she does will easily outclass everyone else in her company by default.
t. threadwatcher
there were quite a few ~1.3k Selen's streams

>>12440770
And Pekora has had 12k streams this year. A couple of lower numbered streams don't really affect the medians, especially for trends

Trend is just the new slow and steady isn't it.

>>12440770
That's what Pomu/Elira/Finana get for everything besides novelty/event/Minecraft and better than the rest of them do on everything. Having above the group average as your floor is pretty good.

>>12440661
Post it.

>>12441072
we were trying to compare her to girls outside of "NijiEn pool".

>>12440983
my point is she does Not get high ccv outside of Buff games so easy

>>12435683
so is this just the newfag general now?

>>12440983
Pekora only have 3 streams that is under 15k if im not mistaken 2 shinchan and 1 bravely default. 3 streams out of 340+ stream.

Selen is so overrated and overhype for a midget . She's not carrying her branch as hard as Bora so i don't understand the hype.

>>12441387
She's got a long way to go for that. People clown on Kiara for getting like 2.5k on part 16 of some stupid JRPG but when she does something interesting she can get 8-10k easy.

>>12441673
Bora isn't carrying her branch she's just massively outperforming them by focusing on non-Koreans (specifically Japanese). It does jack shit for the rest of the branch.

>>12441786
Selen is basically the same then, at least Bora has done something for the branch against their management.

>>12441786
to be fair Selen, personally, isnt carrying anything either. NijiEN just has more box pushing model in general

>>12441875
How? Bora can't bring Korean fans to her branch. While most Selen's viewers are EOP

>>12441786
Selen isn't carrying nijien aswell she's just like you said outperforming her peers.

>>12441875
>outperforming them by focusing on non-Koreans (specifically Japanese).
>Selen is basically the same
the Fuck..?

>>12442008
Define "carrying" then
If Selen's 2-5k viewers doesn't translate to her branchmates then does it mean that she's not carrying them? What do you mean exactly?

>>12441673
Yeah i agree, Selen is way too overhyped here

>>12442092
>Selen's ..5k viewers
what?!

>>12442233
Apexsanji. Just JOPs who tune in to watch some Apex. They don't show up to her non-Apex streams.

>>12442115
>overhyped
You mean one Selenshill who thinks that she's the best chubba to ever exist.
>>12442233
Occasionally she gets good numbers like that. Especially when playing Apex.
>>12442089
>>12442065

>>12442092
Selen do not "share" her viewers with other girls through collabs and branch activities.she just doing her own things and happen to be popular.

numberfagging KR scene. october median numbers

Isegye idol
>Gosegu 2,635
>Jururu 2,389
>Ine 2,114
>Viichan 2,010
>Jingburger 1,847
>Lilpa 1,805

>gangG 1,792
>sea_vtuber 1,310

NijisanjiKR
>Bora Nun 2,563
>Roha Lee 715
>Ban Hada 393
>Ray Akira 386
>Nagi So 340
>Nari Yang 325
>Seffyna 249
>Siu Lee 174
>Ha Yun 166
>Song Mia 161
>Suha Min 155
>Jiyu Oh 145
>Na Sera 141
>Ara Chae 134
>Ko Yami 119
>Lee On 118
>Hari Ryu 117
>Chiho Han 104
>Gaon 74
>Kiru Shin 57

>>12442355
>Selenshill
The only thing holding Selen back is the retardation of holoEN's fanbase that refuses to give anything that's not hololive a chance. If she was in holoEN or holoJP she'd be a 10k average easy, probably even more considering her APEX popularity.

>>12442355
>Occasionally she gets good numbers like that. Especially when playing Apex.
4k, not 5k

>>12442521
I'm glad Ban is keeping her head above water at least. She's probably kicking herself for not just waiting and getting into Niji EN since they're perfectly willing to hire ESLs.

>>12442541
>considering her APEX popularity.
not in hololive.
+
>there would be NO apex collabs
>no permissions
>restrictions

>>12442541
>HoloJP
kek
>Apex
is a debuff in Hololive, so that's just wishful thinking. I'm not sure how well Ame performs in Apex streams, but looking at Towa Matsuri and Roboco she'll not get 10k easy lol.

Non VShojo Oct twitch average viewers for female ENvtubers (1k+)
Snuffy - 4533
Saruei -3126
Haruka - 2966
Bao - 2136
Anny - 2010
Juniper - 1822
Vienna - 1531
Momo - 1493
Girl_DM_ - 1341
Trickywi - 1205
Bunny_gif - 1184
DyaRikku - 1157
Yoclesh - 1024
Lumituber - 1016

Let me know if you think I missed anyone because I probably did

>>12442735
>no APEX collabs
Towa does it all the time
>>12442736
>Towa
Has inclined heavily this year thanks to APEX, her subs would be Luna-tier otherwise.

>>12442736
>I'm not sure how well Ame performs in Apex streams
shitty

>>12442521
that gosegu girl is like KR vers of Gura.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tainxeUsPZo

>>12442794
>no APEX collabs
>Towa does it all the time
are you moron?
>HoloEN
>Collabs outside of Holo (especially with not Vtubers)

>>12442864
>implying Selen won't just get her way by laughing at management if it comes down to it

>>12442541
Selen's fanbase already has a significant amount of HoloEN fans, and they can and do stop watching Selen when someone from HoloEN starts streaming. Look at her Overlord stream from a week and a half ago. It topped at 1.7k, and then immediately dropped to 1k as soon as the HoloEN Among Us collab started.

>>12442736
Ame isn't that good at Apex and gets easily tilted by screensnipers, but she still does reasonably well numbers-wise when she plays it. I would call it average content for her, no buff or debuff.

>>12442897
...
how delusional are you?

>>12442761
Artemis of the Blue, female vtuber.

>>12442794
>collabs
JP and EN have different permissions in terms of collabs.
>thanks to Apex
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA no.
She did won a CR cup but her Apex numbers are always shit (around 3k to 5k), and she definitely did not incline via Apex.
Her better performing streams are her singing streams.
>>12442897
Retard.

>few threads ago it was vshojofag, now it's selenschizo
ok, how bad niji lost yesterday?

>>12442915
bad example, but i guess this is intentionally

>>12442971
...
Anyway streamed 4 hours on twitch with ave of 410

>>12442998
Towa used to gain subs at the same rate as Luna until she participated in more APEX and started getting attention from consistently teaming up with people from outside hololive. That's a fact.

>>12442761
Does Kana have a full month under her belt on twitch at this point?

>>12442998
>3k to 5k
not him but those are pretty good Apex numbers for holo member and Towa in general

Kpop really puts into perspective how small potatoes vtubers are

>>12443059
>teaming up with people from outside hololive.
this is one way to cut yourself from boxpushig strat

>>12443022
No, it just shows that many who watch her still prefer Holos over her. Wouldn't make a difference if she was in Holo or not.

>>12443123
Towa's still immensely popular inside hololive and has frequent collabs including with Pekora so way to make a retarded claim

>>12443124
>Overlord
one of teh worst recent stream in term of ccv (even before drop)
>FULL HoloEN Among Us collab
>with Gura btw
Huge event

come on~, try harder

The key here is.. friend with hololive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU8picIMbSk
>hololive hommage (not even hololive original song)
easy 4 digits >>12442521
niji who?

>>12443074
Yes, a few actually
Kana twitch ave viewers
August - 366
September - 396
October - 510

>>12443059
>subs
I thought subs don't matter to NijiEN fags.
Still, she has been participating in Apex tourneys since a long time ago, Apex was never the main draw.
Luna is also starting to catch up to Towa in terms of CCV.
>>12443083
Towa (and probably Aqua) are the only Holomems that get good numbers playing Apex.

>>12443101
If you just look at normal top 40 shit even Kpop is small. #1 song right now is some Adele thing, 134M views on the MV which came out on the 14th.

>>12443101
Thats not even the best numbers kpop can get. Just check BP or BTS viewcount on the first day.

>>12443256
i didn't said it cut box pushing completely, but im sure there enough holo normies who do Not watch her Apex collabs because of that

>>12443314
Would have expected better, she used to get 1k on youtube.

>>12443354
>Towa (and probably Aqua) are the only Holomems that get good numbers playing Apex.
add Ame here. she can get ~10k

https://twitter.com/nakiriayame/status/1455766097651585028
Orisong MV today at 20JST, prediction?

>>12443390

>>12443390
Hahahha you don't know what you're talking about anon. Kpop numberfag is different beast.

>>12443430
It's gonna take time to build up a new audience I think. She just hit 20k followers and last month was her best month so far so heading in the right direction at least.

>>12442971
>female
Kek

>>12443441
>10k

I mean nousagi hates apex and apex fans don't really like pekora but she is getting somewhere around 21k-30k+ on her apex streams. That counts as high right?

>>12443059
Towa's incline started before she began to play in apex tournaments. It was towards the latter half of last year around when she organized the mariokart tournament and did a lot of other holo collabs so the japanese fanbase got exposed to her and also realized she's one of the few who will bother to actually put things together. The apex tournaments helped her pick up small pockets of fans who became kenzoku, mostly centered around the CR members and their fangirls. She's well looked upon by intercompany unityfags but that's not a large group who will push her and general apexfags in japan still either ignore or dislike her because she's 'not good enough to play with these pros' or whatever plus they have much better options since there's so many good male apex streamers in japan now or vspo if they want women since Towa actually doesn't play apex that much outside tournaments these days. A lot of people seem to forgot that after her yab, the wider japanese holofandom basically ignored her existence at best and she self isolated for quite a while.

>>12443256
heh, the first couple times she collabed with Pekora she got like 3-5k subs each stream.

>>12442541
>HoloEN fanbase that refuses to give anything that's not hololive a chance
LOL

Its not my responsibility to ensure the success of your 2view.

Selenfag thinks that Selen+Apex+Hololive would make her a 10k average chubba, hah.

>>12443390
Do you live under a rock perhaps.

Was this updated for october yet?

>>12444059
Probably 8k. If she was Gen 2 she'd likely be behind Mumei and above Fauna.

>>12443899
Don’t worry anon, we all were new one day. Eventually you’ll grow up and understand.

>>12444059
Yeah, niji is the apex company. She benefits more from being able to collab with people like Kanae and random apex pros there. It's Pomu that would benefit a ton from being in holo instead of niji.

>>12444217
Aside from Pomu, which chuuba would fit better in a different company than where they are now?

>>12442541
Man grow up already and stop letting hl live rent free in your head

>>12444217
>>12444276
You guys keep saying this as if there's a difference in content you're allowed to make in either company. There are idols in both, Apexfags in both, zatsudan streamers in both, skit makers in both, etc.

>>12444172
well october numbers from the previous thread.

>2682 :: 3001 :: 28 :: Selen
>1721 :: 2224 :: 26 :: Elira
>1710 :: 1841 :: 26 :: Pomu
>1324 :: 1467 :: 26 :: Rosemi
>1314 :: 1472 :: 21 :: Finana
>1286 :: 1217 :: 20 :: Petra

didn't change that much except for Elira and Finana reclining.

>>12444059
The floor for Selen in hololive is Botan-tier, she'll arguably perform even better than Botan because of frequent tourneys + greater gaming skill + playing better and more varied games in general

>>12444328
But there's definitely a difference in culture in the fanbase.

Otherwise tribalism wouldn't even be a thing.

>>12444059
They are so delusional its kinda sad

>>12444059
Getting into HoloEN would certainly give her a MUCH higher ceiling to shoot for but it doesn't guarantee she will be a super star. She could be the next Gura/Kronii or the next Kiara/Sana.

Concerning Selen I think she would do quite well in HoloEN. Her skillset would be unique for the branch, she would make an easy collab partner for Towa/Roboco/Choco and even Astel and HoloEN fans go nuts when EN collabs with JP. It seems to be a much bigger deal for them than a NijiEN collabing with NijiJP for example. Then of course when she isn't playing Apex she can boot up the most interesting and constantly evolving slice of life anime that is Hololive Minecraft.

>>12444390
Doubt. Botan is rumored to be a pro, Selen is just a rank spammer.

Didn't Selen do bad in the last tournament she joined?

>>12444398
But they still stream these types of things regardless of fanbase so what's your point?

>>12444390
Nah no, towa tier

>>12443004
Definitely bad, by the looks of it. that, Nijishills and collab beggars are appearing 1 by 1
>>12432349
>>12414184
>>12409328

Has Hololive done any Tales of Luminaria (upcoming mobage) streams already? Looks like Lize will be shilling it today.
https://youtu.be/FBXIYav17Zs

>>12444217
>She benefits more from being able to collab with people like Kanae
I can guarentee you that a Selen/Towa, or even a Selen/Astel collab would be a MUCH MUCH bigger deal than Selen/Kanae. The Selen/Kanae collab didn't even do that amazing numbers wise.

>>12444390
>Botan
Now you're just sprouting bullshit, Botan's floor is pretty high.
Frequent Apex tourneys in Holo is again, a debuff.
>>12444487
There's obvious differences despite similar content. An obvious one would be Minecraft.

>>12444487
Reception to them might be different even if content and personality stays the same.

There might be content/personality that's more welcome in Niji than in Holo or vice versa.

>>12444389
And those Elira numbers are with both birthday boost and 200k boost. If she's reclining even with that, her November numbers may not turn out too hot.

>>12444469
Botan WAS a pro but she is retired from competition now. I'm sure her skill has deteriorated a bit although she is obviously still good.

>>12444525
3, fubuki, mel and I dont remember the last one

>>12444328
There is. Do you think Selen would stream apex every week with this guy if she was in Holo EN? She'd get killed. That and even if you make the same content, the corpo fanbases are not the same. Pomu wants nothing more than to play minecraft every day. She gets mediocre numbers doing that in Niji EN, since no one else there wants to play it.

>>12444510
Pathetic

>>12444597
But I thought most Nijisanji EN fans were considered to be “bored hololive fans”?

>>12444583
Makes sense.

>>12444597
>She'd get killed
Remember she would be in HoloEN and not HoloJP. I think the EN fans would be fine with her playing the same game a lot since she is good at it and western streaming culture is full of popular talents that play nothing but one game.

>>12440215
>>12437882
>>12435016
Call-in collabs used to be popular with JP for a bit I think. They work a lot better than insisting every collab is equal levels of participation IMHO. Especially when it's a rotating format because, yeah, you get a small bump from anyone who *may* appear.

>>12444653
Think it has more to do with her interacting with guys often, which would drive the unicorn schizos insane.

>>12444597
Ollie and Calli get away with being obsessed with male e-celebs just fine and Botan said day one on her stream that she has no issue collaborating with men and wouldn't hear any shit from her fans if she did. Towa streams Apex with guys all the time. Actually brainwashed into thinking men are illegal in Hololive.

I was wondering why today felt so slow, only Mori and Kronii were streaming on EN side, one doing Jump King while the other superchat reading.

>>12444701
Those kinds of people aren't nearly as prevalent in the EN fanbase. They do exist of course, but they are very fringe. I mean, Mori just collabed with a male on multiple songs and the songs are getting rave reviews. Gura is the only one I can see being actively hurt by collabing with a male and maybe Kronii.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECkxzFgbJqQ
This is going to be her video for this month btw. Gonna get the Goodbye Sengen "no other videos to watch" buff. 1m under a week since the song sounds good from the 3D

>>12444633
Oh there's a new one too.
>>12444193

>>12444390
Come on, anon. If you aren't watching Selen, at least pretend you do. If anyone still think that Selen has better gaming skills than Botan after her SC streams, you probably need to get your eyes checked. Botan has been decent at most games she tried so far, even those she did for the first time. Selen, a little bit less so

>>12444851
What the fuck is this, lol.

>>12444851
hahahaha wtf

>>12444510
>>12444633
>>12444851
Its probably Nijiniggers swallowing their pride and realizing that the best way for NijiEN to incline is if they get the HoloEN collab.

>>12444851
2bh, you must be a retard if you think it's fans from either side making those pathetic threads. It's just threadwatchers looking to stir up shit.

Well, one thing I agree with the Selenfag is that HoloEN needs an FPS spammer, just to fill the niche.

I just think it should go to a RU chuuba instead of specifically Selen. Just to solidify the hold on the RU fanbase. Ideally playing the FPS that's popular in RU instead of Apex.

>>12445034
I pretty much consider the Number threads as a pseudo HoloNiji thread.

>>12445078
It's why it's the best thread.

>>12445057
Ame could if she feels like it, Mumei too if she ever decides to drop the pretense.

>>12445078
Yeah, the numbers thread has kind of evolved into more of a vtuber general where you aren't crucified for bringing up numbers like you are in the other generals.

>The floor for Selen in hololive is Botan-tier, she'll arguably perform even better than Botan because of frequent tourneys + greater gaming skill + playing better and more varied games in general

Ahahahha goodshit anon. Not only her numbers are overhype her skills in game is overhype aswell. How delusional. It reminds me of some amefag that thinks ame is good at fps before.

>>12445124
>Ame could if she feels like it
Kek do you want her to do a burnout speedrun? How does anyone watch Ame's FPS streams and think its a good idea for her to make it her main thing?
Oh wait, forgot people don't watch streams here.
>Mumei
Stop.

>>12445057
>HoloEN needs an FPS spammer
HoloEN GAMERS would be an interesting thing. Make it a 3 person gen like the original HoloJP GAMERS. Get somebody who is good at FPS and a vtuber speedrunner would be an interesting thing as well.

>>12444390

She's not near Botan, I would say she's closer to Towa, they're not bad but Botan has more experience.

We're talking about Apex but you can see it in the BFV collab, Botan was able to rank top 10 most if not all games even when she wasn't even playing serious and she didn't even practiced.

Botan is rusty in Apex but just give her time to get used to it again, she still has the skill, she just has to tune it.

>>12445277
Yeah, Ame has it in her to be good at FPS but she gets tilted way too easily. It wouldn't be a wise career turn for her.

>>12445057
just play dota

>>12445364
That's a good idea too. MOBAs/ARTS are underrepresented in vtuber space.

Or maybe I'm just not looking hard enough.

The only one who I found playing Dota 2 was some indie named Kureha.

>>12445057
They mostly need better gamers, the girls have toher skills, the most competent one rn it's Sana I think.

If they can get ahold of ppl similar to Botan or other rounded gamers for a new gen then they would be settled.

Tho getting a Botan is difficult, it took JP branch 5 gens....

>>12445277
>Ame
>do you want her to do a burnout speedrun?
another1?

>>12445403
Don't know if Fauna would want to get back into Dota 2, sounds like its been a few years and the meta drastically changes in Dota 2.

>>12445403
there is Vtuber(f) sponsored by cloud 9 who plays LOL

>>12445403
Hololive Philippines DOTA 2, CROSSFIRE AND MOBILE LEGENDS KINO

MAKE IT HAPPEN COVER!!!

I bet IRyS's CCV during the sports festival will be surprisingly big due to how likable she is. She can bridge the connection between EN, ID, and JP since she collabs with all of them.

If Hololive really wanted a good gamer for HoloEN they could easily do it. We already know they don't mind taking chances hiring people outside the usual vtuber circles so all they have to do is find some small streamer on twitch or whatever and offer them a deal, lol. Get an FPS streamer, a speedrunner, and a fighting game player, call them HoloEN GAMERS, and profit.

>>12445403
There is Siska from Nijisanji ID who plays it sometimes but it’s not even ranked. Some guys from VirtuaReal play it too but who knows how they are doing there. Maybe some EN indies too? Interestingly, Kureha paid some pro players from SEA to play pubs together on the stream.

>>12445403
>MOBAs/ARTS are underrepresented in vtuber space.
If Kuzuha can't get 15k playing LoL, what numbers do you think a vtuber will get if they play LoL or Dota2?
Even for 3D streamers, Tyler1 and Doublelift are the only 2 who get impressive numbers playing LoL.
Most of the famous MOBA streamers get worse numbers than HoloEN.

>>12445450
>play Dota/LOL on stream as big Vtuber on low rank
i'm sure Nothing bad will happen.

>>12445423
EN need hag, hags has been proven to be a good vtuber for holos (fbk, mio, koone, flare, watam, luna, botan, reine)
Pls cover gib me EN hags AAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>12445585
Isn't Irys a hag?

>>12445554
Gura would be the dream for big numbers but for the overall event IRyS and Bae are fantastic choices. Both of them are outgoing, know japanese, and can get along with anybody. Fantastic choices for the quality of the event.

so gamers = esport moba/fps to you fags huh
who cares about other genres right?

>>12445585
rrats say Ina & IRyS is getting there

>>12445556
Kouchi from VR is so obsessed with Dota any collabs he does basically cuts into his Dota time and he rushes out of VC to go play more Dota.
>>12445557
Kuzuha used to be a semi pro even.

>>12445557
Kuzuha is a JP vtuber and LoL or Dota aren't popular over there.

Dota 2 is big in SEA and RU. LoL is big in NA/EU/KR. There's potential there.

>>12445557
>If Kuzuha can't get 15k playing LoL
FPS autists are Not loyal fanbase, ask ANY FPS spammer
>Most of the famous MOBA streamers get worse numbers than HoloEN.
pro/famouse players are exceptions, but yeah

>>12445618
Still cake but, I'll pretend her to be one for now, I love her

>>12445635
Please read, we also included speedrunners as well.

>>12445618
>Isn't Irys a hag?
going by his list.. yes she is

>>12445635
See >>12445555

That would be the perfect combination. I'm most intrigued by the speed runner thing. Cover could even get them into that AGDQ thing, lol.

>>12445640
They're cakes. No one in EN is at hag yet, give it a few years and maybe.

>>12445563
She can always mute chat and voice, issue id see more are stream snipers.

>>12443858
yea, she was actually saved by EOPchads whose company kept her going until she managed to build even a little JP fanbase again.

>>12445554
I like IRyS, but I'm afraid that her Sport Festival stream will suffer the same issue most of her big collab streams had so far. For some reasons, she kept streaming on Low Latency instead of Ultra Low, so her streams were somewhere between dozens seconds to a few minutes behind others. That would turn people off.
IRyStocrats, send your oshi some SCs and ask her to stream her PoV properly

>>12445750
>stream snipers.
this is the REAL problem anon. it takes only 1 person to ruin ~40 min game (and no matter in which team he will be)

>>12445662
Kuzuha can still get 25k if he does a zatsu or something japs like that he doesn't regularly play, he has a fanbase that doesn't watch his FPS streams and they essentially replace the Apexfags who check out.
However, when he plays LoL or Valorant, both his regulars and his Apexfags aren't interested.

>>12444539
What do you mean? Some Nijis play Minecraft almost every day/week. Some never touch it. Same with Hololive.
Again, none of these posts make sense and sound like you all think there's some contract to only streaming specific games in each company.
>>12444597
She would. Other girls can get away with it, why can't she?

>>12445921
5 minute delay, though that will mess up chat interaction I guess.

>>12445967
Differences in numbers obviously. Nijifags aren't interested in Minecraft whereas Holofags suck them up like drugs.

>>12445939
>LoL or Valorant
even collabs go poorly?

>>12445450
>>12445471
>Thinking that Gaben will give Hololive permission to play DOTA2 after he / Valve screwed that Pinoy (was it Kuku? I don't quite remember) for the "crime" of pissing Chinks off

>>12445991
you underestimate stream snipers.
+only thing they need is to get into the game. ppl will just run and die, sell their items etc

>>12444821
Why was this delayed? Normally you drop this after 3D.
>This is going to be her video for this month btw
not sure if bait or serious

>>12446110
It was Kuku. But Kuku is still allowed in The International. He was never banned, just suspended IIRC.

>>12444597
HoloEN fans don't care about the male interaction thing, that's a JP idolfag thing and rpr is the worst fucking example you could've picked.
Towa got her best Apex numbers ever collabing with him, because he's a Kenzoku supreme.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/lVO-tsx7XY4

Japs love this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOK3eBYmdec

>>12446110
fair point btw, CN is the biggest fanbase of d2

>>12445876
Someone already did, so she's aware of the issue. Something to do with her thinking she had set it to ultra low but apparently the setting didn't save between streams? Hopefully someone mentions it to her again before SportsFes just incase because she can be a bit PON at times.

>>12446150
Music video I assume
>bait or serious
Ayame streamed once last month, and it was the 3D

>>12446164
The people who care the most about male interaction are the girls themselves, lmfao. Nobody who is an actual fan would give a single fuck if a man entered their airspace.

>>12446000
Meanwhile Chihiro and Belmond get better numbers doing Minecraft

>>12446164
>HoloEN fans don't care about the male interaction
didn't Gura's fans bullied some Big twitch streamer who wanted to collab with her?

>>12445554
I hope she has undivided attention during cameraman duty, she often distracted during her mc stream, as for the likeable part agreed, she and baelz so far I think liked by holojp and ID member

>>12446245
Towa yab says otherwise. Also the Matsuri hand incident.

I think Towa could get away it because it happened early in her career.

>>12446245
Pekora and Marine won't be collabing with males anytime soon after their fanbases basically said "DO NOT". Pretty sure they if Nousagi hadn't said no that Pekora would probably be fine collabing with dudes, so long as the ideas made sense. Also, pretty sure fandead might have a bit of an issue too.

>>12446110
Fauna said they had permissions to play Dota 2.

>>12446279
Never heard of it. Is it Sykkuno? He's a well known chumbud, but I never head of him being bullied.

>>12446245
I'm pretty sure Rushia would suffer losses if she ever colllabs with a man.

>>12446300
That is not a male interaction on stream, that's a man being with her in her room.

>>12446164
They don't sperg as much as JP but do have parts who don't like it, I believe Mori's Rikka collab had lower than her usual numbers.

>>12446344
All valve games and rito games is okay to stream

>>12446300
Both of them are IRL related. I mean Suisei and Botan had recent collabs with male and both got less <600 dislikes

>>12446279
Sykkuno? Wtf stop eating up rrats.
Chumbuds brag about Gura brainwashing him as proof of her power.

>>12446300
They got disliked bombed by dramafags. Lying about it made it worse.
Do you think Aqua and Fubuki did something to piss off their fans too?

>>12446417
>Do you think Aqua and Fubuki did something to piss off their fans too?

Yeah. They're not at fault obviously, but it's obvious they did something that their fans didn't like.

>>12446350
Sykkuno gets bullied by his viewers and ribbed by the OTV crew over his chumbud status (the entire otv crew know at this point).

>>12446164
isn't it because rpr is genuine fan of Towa

>>12446323
Marine has collab-ed with dudes either on her radio show with Fubuki or as a guest on a special program.
Expecting 0 male interaction is retarded anyways since the cameramen who work with them for 3D lives, the composers and writers of their songs, YAGOO...etc are all male.

It depends on the fan culture fostered, but the first anon said HoloEN, which definitely does not have the same fan culture as Fandeads or Yukimins.

>>12446323
This is true also the fact Marine knows 5ch likes her a lot.

The rare duo of Lamy and Mori have been teaming up to save Holo's numbers all day so far.

>>12446648
Blue and Pink women strong.

>>12446300
>>12446323
>>12446350
And? Losing one or two paypigs will not hurt the insane revenue of the chuubas you mentioned. In the end it's their decision not to collab with men because they're the ones who run the channel. I'm not saying they're doing it for financial reasons, maybe they just don't want to. But acting like collabing with a man is the death of a channel is stupid. Furthermore, a proper collab with a man is not the same thing as Towa yab and ZA HANDO. Every Fandead who knows their shit knows Rushia had a boyfriend and was rattled when said ex got arrested for beating the shit out of another girl.

>>12446495
Since when are Chink antis "fans"?

>>12446350
>>12446417
>Sykkuno? Wtf stop eating up rrats.
everything i know that he wanted to collab with her and even was in her chat, but then stoped (presumably because of Twitter threats)

>>12446648
Blue Fauna holding 10k for 6 hours

>>12446736
not funny

>>12446711
Since before the incident. The reason they hate Hololive now is because they feel betrayed on some level.

They're basically acting as if they were NTR'd.

>>12445328
You're joking right? Botan is older, has lousier reflexes, and was only Master in APEX even when carried while Selen is a Pred.

>>12446754
I thought it was.

>>12446695
It's not the death of the channel or anything, but let's flip it around.
What would they GAIN by collabing with males? Legitz they'rr already so busy and have so many options for collab partners within Hololive that going against their fanbases wishes is pointless drama for the sake of what, sticking it to unicorns? Just let the girls who have chosen the route of not collabing with males donas they please, and those that don't have an issue to continue as they see fit.

>>12446790
selen was carried to pred, she says that herself
hell, selen just climbed to master in apex and was being carried by both rpr and restya

>>12446814
I literally said in my post I can totally understand why they wouldn't and it's fine if they don't want to. I am not begging for a collab with males nor would I ever imply they're obligated to.

>>12446814
NTA, but there's nothing to flip around.
First anon says the girls will get destroyed for collabing with girls.
Second anon says it might piss off a few of the gachikois and a subset of the audience might not like it, but the majority of their fans won't have a strong reaction to it.
No one said anything about forcing people to do collabs with males.

>>12446936
>collabing with girls
collabing with males*

>>12446724
>presumably because of Twitter threats
There were no threats, he stopped because Gura just straight up ignored his ass, as well as pretty much every other collab beggar outside Hololive.

>>12446819
You can drag someone kicking and screaming into Masters, Matsuri is evidence of that. Selen at the very least would have needed to be a Masters-tier player to get "carried" into Pred. She's being humble.

>>12446788
You really think every chink dislike bombing and setting up spambots are disgruntled Holofags?
Bruh, the Taiwan yab incident blew up so much on bilibili that every zhang that wanted CCP brownie points hopped on the anti train.
Chinese Holofags just stfu and hid in their bunkers and continued to watch Holostreams through VPNs.
The ones hating on Aqua rn aren't even the same Chinks hating on Fubuki, they're taiwanese Apexfags.

>>12447041
Doesn't matter, Selenfags are just boasting her capabilities.
Matsuri still won a tournament.

>>12446903
>>12446936
Fuck me, I need to re-read things. Fair enough, time to get some goddamn coffee *third shift woes*

>>12447094
So you haven't actually watched either of them play and are just blindly supporting your oshi? Good to know.

>>12446724
Sykkuno has never begged for a collab because he knows how weird it is for a fan to beg for a collab.
It's his friends trolling him by tagging Gura and asking her to collab with him.

The power of totsu

>>12447144
Thanks to insufferable fags like you I'll never watch Selen.
My oshi is Tower and I do watch streams, now start following your oshi's footsteps and be humble yourself.

>>12447201
Hating on a vtuber because of half a dozen obnoxious fans on a containment board is retarded, you stupid tribalist.

>>12447171
IRyS is a great conversation partner.

>>12447171
>>12447303
how long have Calli been talking with IRyS?

>>12447291
>hate
Never an EN fag to begin with so it doesn't matter. Associating the words "Selenfag" and "annoying" is just the cherry on top.

>>12447303
IRyS and Mori just have a special connection

>>12447343
I think more than 2 hours now?
There hasn't been a second of dead air. Irys is a chatterbox.

>>12447343
Give or take 2 and a half hours

>>12447343
Almost three hours

>>12447201
Nta, but can you blame others for getting turned off to Selen because of obnoxious fans like you?
>>12447041
Selenfags are even worse than cumbuds i swear

>>12447367
>>12447369
>>12447388
Owl just joined. I think Calli can go over 13k again

>>12446407
Suisei was tanking a lot of things, shinymasfag, enstarfag, chinkfag, unicornfag

>>12447360
They've been able to hang out in person, and IRyS is also a massive dork. dorks together strong. She's essentially slotted into the role Kiara had when she was there, a fellow HoloEn member she can hang out with and talk about work shit if she wanted to in english without worrying about leeching etc.

>>12447360
Irys is like a replacement of Kiara for Mori, even bonebros is a very recent thing that Mori never thought that she can vibe with Gura.

>>12447512
>shinymasfag
Does this game have a toxic fanbase? I'm not watching Suisei but i am curious what she did to get hate from them

>>12447577
>replacement for a friend
sasuga Mori

>>12447615
Every single idolfag game has a toxic fanbase, most of the time idolfag gamers hate vtubers hence the forced Enstars drama

>>12447615
It's because of that one Shinymas seiyuu NTR scandal

>>12447201
>>12447391
Selen isn't my oshi, stopped watching her when every other word out of her mouth became "fuck". You are completely delusional if you think Matsuri can even touch her in terms of skill. Towa is a better player than Matsuri.

>>12447682
>you think Matsuri can even touch her in terms of skill
But I don't. I'm just saying that
>people here boast Selen's actual skill
and
>Matsuri might not be that good but she still won a tournament

towa 6k in apex. Is she inclining?

>>12447640
Ohhh ok, well now that i think about it, i guess idol games main market are idolfags
>>12447577
This is why i consider Council and IRyS as great addition since they're main accomplishment is made Gura and Mori more active than usual. It also revitalized their passion in a sense.

>>12447682
I really hate Selen because her toxicity doesn't correspond with her skill level. If she plays like ImperialHal, I'd probably support her even if she does poopoo peepee jokes all the time.

>>12445328
I can't believe I followed a stupid Selen reply chain to find an even dumber post. Botan is never fucking playing Apex again; maybe if Nene asked nicely, but certainly not in any serious capacity. She played Siege for years and never even streamed it, just put up some clips. She's not "tuning" shit. There's several other Apex players in Hololive that play Apex at her level or possibly even better (Astel) if you really wanna numberfag with someone, even Aqua is more likely to play again and she damn near died while getting a shitload of antis last time she streamed Apex. "Botan is Selen tier" is an irrelevant and completely unprovable argument.

>>12447751
Apex has a new map, character and season rank reset

>>12447751
New season buff. Hal currently has nearly 20k at the moment.

>>12447682
Towa and Matuli are good team players but Selen is not, former pred status means nothing if you can't do good IGL, when she played with a master from KR she couldn't do anything and kept having to be saved. She is also a bad sport about playing, every stream I saw of hers she's bitching about the other team. In fact she did remind me of ImperialHal, that guy is always bitching.

Oh god. someone turn this thread back to numbers.

>>12447751
Nah. Apex isn't her buff content. It's most likely novelty from the new updates.

>>12447751
Towa easily gets more with Minecraft

>>12447743
correctly if i wrong, but there were actual current Apex predators on tournaments which Matsuri/Towa won, right?

>>12447863
i thought i was in global

>>12447833
is Kuzuha gonna stream Apex today? He might win today with those buffs
>>12447863
Apex timeloop, never expected it

>>12447863
It's still better than some of the previous threads so I'm up for it.
>>12447888
Not sure about Matsuri, but Towa was indeed playing with preds and pros.

Nui is getting a big spike for the end of Judge Eyes just like Pekora did a couple of weeks ago, obviously smaller numbers all round but 12k is very good for her

>>12447863
Very good retention

>>12447922
He is going to do Chronoir stuff I think but a late night stream isn't out of the question.

>>12447949
Jump King totsu is actually a genius idea for retention, everytime it looks like her views are flagging she'll make progress or have a new guest on and the numbers will surge.

>>12447818
Selen is no where near Botan's level when it comes to general streaming skills though. I really got turned of by Selen's display of unprofessionalism when she collabed with Bon during that one tournament. That shit would never fly for JP streamers in general. She needs to grow up and stop being toxic.

>>12447863
Selen fags shitting up the thread again.

Any Streams that might take the day??
>Miko is gonna do Minecraft again but Pekora will overlap (possibly minecraft as well)
>Queen Ayame is gonna premiere a song so it's possible she'll be streaming today too
>Apex has a new map so if Kuzuha plays he might win

>>12447171
I think Mori found her Tetris

>>12447939
Nui's Judgement numbers in general have been pretty good for how much Nijifemale numbers get meme-d.
6-7k on multiple eps is what I expect a HoloEN (except Gura) or mid-tier HoloJP (like Flare or Polka) would get for it.

>>12448089
The fact that Mumei of all people called in makes it seem like the ENs (and maybe more) actually want to call in and chat rather than feeling obligated as well, so it's something she could just keep doing once a week if she wants.

>>12448056
>>12448015
>>12447818
Selen's Average of Peak CCV are just 3001 and yet selenfags are already like this.

Damn imagine if "somehow" a miracle of miracles happen and she rose up to atleast Ina or Kronii levels. I might pray for the deaths of obnoxious selenfags

>>12448065
The minecraft thing is a training arc for the entire Red team

>>12448065
I think, Pekora has a personal policy to avoid consecutive Minecraft streams as much as possible. So she might hand today's gold depending on her choice.

>>12448243
That will take the day then most probably. Entire red team one POV is a lot of heavy hitters.

>>12445554
Like in the sport festival they had before it's likely to just be the team leader PoVs.

>>12447975
They are announcing a concert/event.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf2EWpKMizo

>>12448291
It's already confirmed that Irys and Bae are the POVs for Red C and White C.

>>12448303
Jesas Niji is on fire with the concerts.

>>12446562
Rpr is a great example of expanding your fan and viewer base permanently in the space of a week. JPs love him because: he’s really good at APEX, he has respect for JPs and tries to learn some phrases, he’s respectful of vtuber culture even defending it when some of his chat complained, seems to be a genuine Kenzuku enjoying her music etc, and during collabs doesn’t do any bonehead moves like Connor since he seems to understand that makes collabing with idols can be a touchy subject. Now he has collabed with most of the of the prominent Apex vtubers and is a regular in popular JP tournaments. Hell he has a pretty good anime avatar. He has been rewarded with an almost tenfold increase in ccv. He’s sort of a reverse Selen: he was an FPS gamer that tapped a unrelated vtuber audience and inclined massively because of it. Koefficent in some ways is a similar example

>>12448303
Kuzuha and Kanae are going to be in 2 concerts in 3 months jeez

good thread guys, btw shibuya hal 18k on Apex rn, beat that selen

>>12448369
Half of Gura's fanbase might just watch clips or the vod (if someone put timestamp) then.
RIP Numbers

>>12447949
This is in the dead of night NA which is even more impressive

>>12448457
It's apparently a free stream concert. A live, in that case.

>>12448550
oh shit we can numberfag correctly

>>12448540
The JP timezone holoens seem to have fanbases on both sides of the Pacific

>>12448550
In that case, the numbers will be very interesting.
For the most part, Niji3D lives (not debuts) aren't the most crazy for numbers except for huge 16+ member lives like NJU.
IIRC, Kuzuha and Kanae have never had a 3D live where they're the main focus.
Kuzuha's tourist attracting power now is much stronger than NJU days too, so something like 90k might not be out of question.
The obvious debuff would be that it's on Chronoir's channel, which gets 1/3rd the attention Kuzuha's channel gets.

>>12447201
You are not missing much. She's a poopoopeepee shit-tier streamer.

>>12448369
Where'd that get mentioned?

>>12448703
I would hold your bets on 90k because again this is the Chronoir channel. Their own solo viewers are not Chronoir fans, only a fraction are. Not a small fraction, but a fraction nonetheless. Wait to see what this announcement stream gets.

Cdjapan’s real time ranking has 9/10 Hololive plushies in the top 10. Plastic love releasing today snagged the top 4. Fubuki shot up to the third spot with Suisei and Coco still on top. The other members have started to catch up with even Aki in the top 50. And these are all preorders for April! Can we get sales numbers on that Plastic Love release? It would give us some numbers on sales

>>12448891
Kiara's twitter about Bae, and Irys I think you can find the clips about Moona for not streaming the SportsFes

>>12448891
Kiara's schedule for Bae
IRyS confirmed it in her latest Minecraft stream

>>12448995
This is a rabbit hole you don't want to go down, anon LOL
It's not worth it for imaginary and incomplete numbers.
Just be glad the girls are doing well.

>>12448703
90k huh, since it's a free concert and will have an announcement. Numbers will be high.
But if it didn't even touch 80k then prepare to be grudgeposted

>>12448445
rpr is "leeching" done correctly. he earned my respect defending and banning people in his chat saying vtubing is cringe. I'm glad that he's seeing more success now.

>>12449189
>might not be out of question.
Just an overestimation on my part considering I don't think Kuzuha has done a 3D live where he's had half the screen time.
His free concert section stream coming up will give an idea of what to expect.

So Marine won't be streaming the Minecraft Festival huh? She a number anti now? wtf?

>>12449301
She is not even sure if she'll participate in the event, she'll get her second vaccine shot the day before.

>>12449301
She’s taking the nanobots jab the day prior and expect side effects.

>>12449351
>>12449355
it seems like a cheap excuse cause she said she doesnt want to be the leader anyway

King just started a stream
>Splatoon
Could win the day in his usual frame with that, don’t know about now

>>12449417
Being the leader and being the cameraman are two separate tasks

>>12449429
King need to do his idol reps for upcoming concert pls understand

>>12449429
Is it just me or is Kuzuha missing on Holodex?

>>12449429
He has gotten silver so much recently that he has become addicted to it. It has a hold on him that he has no control over. Only inpatient treatment can help him now. A Silver addiction.

>>12448065
>>12449429
https://youtu.be/lf2EWpKMizo
He's going to win with the good old bait (????????)

>>12449468
the leader is the cameraman for their teams

>>12449697
No, Kiara is White C's leader but the cameraman is Bae

>5.3k
Luna's incline is nice to see

>>12449429
If Splatoon 2 is still getting big numbers 4 years later you'd better believe everyone is going to be streaming 3 when it comes out, it's going to make this year's Monhun arc look pathetic

>>12449727
really? thats stupid
anyway, i want marine to be the cameraman cause she gets most views

>>12449429
what site is this?

>>12449727
>>12449697
>>12449468
So is there confirmed leaders already for the JP Teams?
It should've been Miko, Pekora, Marine, Subaru, Aqua, Gura, Kronii for maximum numbers

>>12449853
>Subaru
Korone or Ayame, you mean.

>>12449784
It's getting big numbers because there's a Niji Splatoon tournament coming up.

>>12449853
Miko is going to be doing the broadcasters perspective with Mio. She isn't on a team.

>>12449836
Mado

>>12449891
Right, forgot about them.
>>12449963
Yeah i only included her since she's confirmed to have a POV.
Pekora is almost a given but for other teams, any mention of who's going to stream their POV?

>>12443101
Yes2. We intend to keep it that way.

Fubuki will stream team B practice (?) At the same slot as pekora and miko
https://youtu.be/KKNppSnpTLM

>>12449784
It's a tournament and they're practicing, please pay attention to literally anything for once in your life

>>12450096
You can try, but both companies are slowly and steadily trying to work their way into the mainstream.

>>12450104
I guess Niji will take the win today huh. With all those overlaps, i don't think even Pekroa will breach 40k

>>12450112
It's not and never will be KPOP level mainstream though. It might capture a little bit of the anime and manga fanbase but it will not go mainstream. Anime-tier at best.

>>12449853
the leaders are Pekora, Subaru, Fubuki, Aqua
which sucks consider Gura won't stream for EN also
Pekora and Miko will just dominate everyone else
They should have let Botan, Marine and Ayame be the captain instead, that will pull in a much larger number

>>12447841
There's a reason rpr calls selen the female Hal and it's not because of how good she is kek

>>12448163
This kind of thing is Nui's specialty. She really gets into the stories and worlds of rpg and rpg adjacent games. If someone is interested in a good streamer of these things, Nui's your girl.

>>12450317
Subaru has the best team for viewership

>>12450210
Hololive knows their place and it's in the anime section. Nijisanji is trying to become mainstream even though they're just streamers using a virtual avatar.

>>12449784
Even if it didn't bring numbers half of the jp chuubas will play it anyway.

>>12450456
that might work in japan, it will never work outside of it since facecam streamers already captured that market long ago

>>12450456
How are they going mainstream exactly? All Nijisanji stuff is anime, i.e. fucking anime style vtubers

>>12450317
they wanted Marine but Marine didnt want to be captain

>>12450581
Pretty sure that anon is just repeating what the nijiniggers say

>>12450581
Don't mind them, they think that Hololive is winning over Nijisanji because of lore even though their top performer is just a gurl in a bunny costume who loves carrots.

>>12450669
Why do you people take what shitposters say as fact while ignoring reality.

>>12450692
Eh. Why is Hololive eating Nijis lunch then?

>>12450814
Did you respond to the wrong post?

When 99% of Niji conversations turns into talking about how Niji is better than Holo, you can’t really do anything to win against a retard.

>>12450581
He's gonna start saying the EOP audience nonsense again.

>>12444389
What about their new wave?

Marine barely played minecraft, she is just like Ms. Koro

>>12450893
They certainly loved EOPs when they thought EOPs were going to propel Kuzuha's Vampire to 1 million faster than Reflect, lol.

>>12450883
You know what they say, ask a holofag who's their favourite chuuba they'll tell you and send you a few clips to get started
Ask a nijifag and they'll start by explaining how it's better than hololive.

>>12450969
>What chuuba from your company should I watch

>Hololive fan
The best vtuber to watch is Sakura Miko (Elite Miko)

She is funny, entertaining, great at improvising to fill dead air, has well behaved EOPs, and a great dynamic with her 35p. As far as collabs go she is one of the best and knows how to play to her collab partner's strength to make the most entertaining collab possible. She also does a lot of them and has great rapport with a ton of members so her collabs are always great.

If you don't understand japanese she is rather EOP friendly for a couple of reasons. She is a master of visual comedy which means that even if you can't understand what she is saying you are still going to have a good time and laugh at what she is doing. She also makes great use of her unorthodox voice for tons of funny noises. She also frequently has live translators if that is your thing due to her being pretty popular. So again, if you are an EOP don't be afraid to dive right into a Miko stream.

If you do understand japanese though, wow, you are in for a hell of a stream experience. Miko likes to talk and she talks a lot. My japanese isn't even good but even knowing a little bit increases your stream experience with Miko by a lot. I have learned so much about her over my time watching her that I feel like I know her. She constantly talks about her childhood, her life experiences, how much she loves her co-workers, deep topics, comedic topics, emotional topics, etc. Nothing is off the table especially during her superchat readings. You need to stick around for those as that is where she gets into her deeper discussions (other then membership streams of course).

I simply can't recommend her enough!

>Nijisanji fan
Fuck off back to your Holowhores Holofag. Nijisanji is #1 in Japan.

>>12450969
my favorite is Lulu because her tits are fat and she's cute :DDDDDD

contenders for tonight?
https://youtu.be/uM4hJNb92Ok
https://youtu.be/SNVMVPTnpsE

>>12450969
my favorite is pegor because she is a sigma autistic numberfag.

>>12450836
Luck in the timing to the out of Japan market.

There is an universe where Hana Macchia didn't incinerate her EOP fan base by being a dumb chick on stream and on social media, one where Shizuka Rin embraced her kaigai Pewds fanbase and onboarded them somehow instead of chemoing them with Final Fantasy XIV spam and in that universe
>Shizuka Rin would be more like Haachama instead of having a worse median than Petra
>Hana Macchia would be more like Moona instead of having a worse median than all but 3 Holostars

It could have happened

>>12451128
There is an unironic alternate universe where dotlive managers weren't incompetent and Siro's blowout moment in pewdepie's channel plus her bilingual skills shoot dotlive girls into the current hololive of that reality.

>>12451128
>mentions luck
>all the excuses are niji "talents" being retards and telling prospective fans to fuck off instead of embracing them
lol

>>12451128
I swear that all the Niji who caught EOP attention always self sabotaged while every Holo who caught EOP attention was somehow the perfect gateway for Hololive content

Even those Niji who didn't turn away the EOP graduated, like Lulu.

>>12451088
MERCH GUISE, EVEN THOUGH OUR LIVERS HAVE 0.1 VIEWERS COMPARED TO HOLOLIVE, WE STILL WIN MERCH LOL, OH AND WERE ALSO SUPERIOR BECAUSE OUR LIVERS CAN INTERACT WITH MALE, MORE FREEDOM, MORE GAMES TO PLAY, TECHNOLOGY IS ALSO MUCH MUCH BETTER THAN HOLOLIVE, NUMBER 1 IN JAPAN GUISE BETTER THAN HOLO.
that's how i got filtered back when Holo was a nobody, deep hatred grew when Holo just debuted JP gen4 and has been the most united, but Nijifags are such insecure fags, Nijisanji were what introduced me to this criteria, but also made me hate them. Never even felt this hatred before any fandoms.

>>12451195
The Nijisanji era is over. The nijifags are living on past glory, coping with alternative "what if" scenarios.

>>12451182
There's an alternate universe where Kizuna Ai's company weren't retards and now holds an unbreakable monopoly on the vtubing market.

>>12450969
>>12451088
>Nijisanji fan
they just too embarrassed to admit that they watch translated clips

>>12451271
kek

>>12451272
don't forget the alternate universe where Sony wasnt a goddamn retard and actually supported luna into making more goddamn content, making her the queen of the era.

I want to read the fanfiction of vtuber alternate history.

>>12451297
No single talent can compete with Hololive a lot of their strength is in the gen system and collabs (see:Kuzeha). They’d have to build around her and that’s a lot harder that it seems

We have a winner now.
Marine playing this game will surely bring atleast 100k


Rip Median and Average peak

Numbers thread? Why not just change it to shitting Nijisanji thread.

>>12450969
Maybe I don't lurk enough but I've not seen a nijifan explain that niji is better than hololive when asked who their oshi or fave chuuba from nijisanji is. Though, I do see a nijifag explain that niji is better than holo when baited.

>>12451338
At least senchou is smart enough to put the big titted one front and center next to her on the thumbnail.

>>12451338
>Marine playing this game
this is shill stream of mobile game, fubuki d the same for ~2k ccv

>>12451338
Pekora gave marine the kusoge debuff after Marine talked about her legs and ass.

>>12451380
Well, that's sort of what is going to be like on a board that was created primarily to contain holobronies no? The ones that are here instead of in /jp/ will primarily be the ones who got into Niji via translated clips and/or have a real hateboner for Hololive and followed over to cause shit, becuase why not? The mild-mannered ones will stick to the various nijithreads otherwise. I do think the shitting on Niji is a bit much, but it is true that they really screwed the pooch when they were given golden opportunities to capture the EN market early on.

>>12451395
Kiara got 2.4K, Fubuki got 2k+ thought it’s not on holo.poi for some reason. Maybe 10k for Marine? But it is obviously a pretty powerful debuff. Either they pay well or Cover wants to strengthen their relationship with BN

>>12451380
See >>12442541
And also
>>12444510

>>12451272
>where Kizuna Ai's company weren't retards and now holds an unbreakable monopoly on the vtubing market
To add to that: the below mentioned streamers were ALL part of upd8 at one point or another

>Oda Nobuhime (which is most definitely a popular current chuuba)
>AyaMina Games (which may or may not be popular current chuubas)
>All of AniMare, including Haneru
>All of HoneyStrap, including Patra
>AZKi
>Tomari Mari
>Shibuya Hal

They surely fucked up big league

>>12451380
Holo wins the day
>Nijifags copes and starts falseflagging, baiting and delusional talk. (Ccv today is regarded as useless metric)
Holo loses the day
>Nijifags trashes Hololive and starts Slow&Steady cope (Ccv matters today since niji won)
>>12451395
It's ahhh you know.. Joke
since i expect Marine to barely get 10k or maybe even less