/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434ranking

Fellow holofans, how do we terrorize other brand and indie livers if they take away dislikes? Many have turned off DMs so we can't send them pictures of dead animals anymore.

Did some compiling of Mori/Kiara/Ina's sponsorships. Not 100% sure it's complete but I put what I could find.

>>13078350
Hello fellow holofan. There is this sure fire way to terrorize other company livers: just find where they live and stalk them so hard their company keeps putting them on breaks to force the police to act, so they get tired, desert their wave and graduate!

how likely is it that Botan will get sponsored by Microsoft to play Halo? she collabed with xbox in the past and I think they have a good relationship.

>>13078432
>Draw A Lot
by Wacom and Clipstudio, if i'm not mistaken?

>>13078577
Not hard enough if they try to put the JP scene into it like Apex.
I hope they do that soon enough because of the Infinite's multiplayer beta release.

>>13078669
yeah, that's why I asked. Botan is good shill personnel due to her inoffensive and fun personality. it helps that she's actually good at games too.

>>13078350
Anon leave other people's livers alone. You can't make them drink.

https://youtu.be/cYfUaHljuKg
just fyi, this is will probably hit 2 million views by the end of this week

>>13078665
Yeah.

I was browsing the catalog. There are a lot of people who think SCs are the only source of income and that the top holos/nijis make as much as a white collar jobs.

>>13078577
I don't see why they wouldn't.

>>13079077
>and that the top holos/nijis make as much as a white collar jobs.
Depends on the job. Top ones are making “Regional Director of multinational company” type of money.

> There are a lot of people who think SCs are the only source of income
Uninformed people are uninformed, news at 11

Kadokawa partnership, that is a good one
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1460253755698384904

> “Houshou Marine Fan Book & Comic Anthology #Treasure Pirate Diary" will be released by KADOKAWA on January 27, 2022

>>13079163
5 figure white collar jobs.
>uninformed
Probably should stay that way.

if you're wondering where the usual shit flinging bait posting is during this hour, they're baiting hard over at /hlg/

>>13079320
Seems like it topped some sales chsrt, anyone can figure out what?
https://twitter.com/koro987_m/status/1460304526477385735

>>13079405
hlg is always a dumpster fire. I can't think of any recent drama to trigger it.
Also these threads are calm because of the absolute mogging from yesterday.

>>13078432
Ina's just different from most Holos in that her streams are basically advertisement for her professional illustration work. A huge portion of her revenue is directed to her roommate. Actually I'm guessing her contract is much more complicated than other Holos both due to her experience and the complicated nature of rights/commissions.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

Here it goes
>83,257: Lamy (Hololive)
>35,839: Pekora (Hololive)
>32,367: Suisei (Hololive)
>23,204: Marine (Hololive)
>21,574: Miko (Hololive)
>18,996: Kanata (Hololive)
>18,994: Kanata (Hololive)
>12,681: Kanata (Hololive)
>11,877: Polka (Hololive)
>11,577: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,087: Ina (Hololive)
>10,755: Ange Katrina (Nijisanji)
>10,751: Mio (Hololive)
>10,666: Fubuki (Hololive)
>10,634: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>10,358: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,253: Shibuya Hal (merise)

>>13079413
https://dengekiya.com/shop/default.aspx

>>13079413
Holo name = sells out in minutes and top sales charts
Cover is so bad at merch, they can never meet demand and make money. Their incompetence in not maxing out their revenue streams is comical.

>>13079471
>A huge portion of her revenue is directed to her roommate
Similar to Noel and Mel (so far) then.

>>13079446
nah, usually when Hololive wins this thread becomes a dumpster fire as well. but right now, the same shitposters are busy at /hlg/ to stir up shit here. I've noticed that the quality of the thread here and /hlg/ outside of JP prime time reflects each other. if niji wins, the thread is fine and there are actual discussions.

>>13079511
Kanatan that's illegal!!

>>13079320
>>13079413
Ina mentioned this on her stream, apparently she drew the back cover.

>>13079554
This time it must be Kadokawa, I doubt Cover would be controlling publication on this one.

>>13079596
If they barely print any it means that they have no confidence in Hololive.

>>13079593
Yep, 裏表紙 means back cover

>>13079632
nah it just means you are a fag

>>13079554
>>13079632
Nah selling a limited run, covering costs and securing a small profit, then generating a little hype and having a more precise number for the second run is an old school way of minimizing risk. Cover is nothing if not risk averse

Why did you guys fall for obvious bait when it's still available for order.
Pre-order period.
> 2021年11月15日(月)~ 2021年12月09日(木)

>>13079551
Thanks kind anon, that’s it

Vshojo inclining like crazy hololive en better watch their back cause I got a feeling their going to be a new queen in the west very soon.

>>13079823

>File: niji.png

fuck why i laughed at this

>>13079632
anon, they're taking orders now so they can print however many they need.

>>13079951
Schizo mixing up his images?

>>13079320
>>13079413
Are they going to sell it to overseas fans at all or is it Jap exclusive? I don't think it's the kind of thing they would put on Geekjack.

>>13079823
When will Nijiniggers stop putting Holo vs Every single vtuber in the world and acting like fortune tellers?

>>13080043
『宝鐘マリン ファンブック&コミックアンソロジー お宝海賊日誌』と、表紙イラストのB2タペストリーがセットとなった商品。アニメイト・ゲーマーズ・とらのあな・メロンブックス・電撃屋限定商品。

-> A set of "Treasure Bell Marine Fan Book & Comic Anthology #Otakara Kaizoku Nikki" and a B2 tapestry with the cover illustration. Limited edition for Animate, Gamers, Toranoana, Melon Books, and Dengekiya.

So unless you can order from one of those places I guess you're out of luck.

>>13080093
throw enough shit at a wall and it is bond to stick, kinda like niji's marketing tactic

>>13079823
Is hours watch a good metric for successful streamers?

ads

Speaking of watched hours, here is the chart for watched hours
>pic related

Here it goes
>1439795 watched hours :: 27277 mean CCV :: 53 hours streamed :: Pekora (jp3)
>1170987 watched hours :: 27023 mean CCV :: 43 hours streamed :: Miko (jp0)
>600597 watched hours :: 15519 mean CCV :: 39 hours streamed :: Subaru (jp2)
>585742 watched hours :: 22076 mean CCV :: 27 hours streamed :: Marine (jp3)
>386968 watched hours :: 6718 mean CCV :: 58 hours streamed :: Watame (jp4)
>383214 watched hours :: 9851 mean CCV :: 39 hours streamed :: IRyS (ensingers)
>352099 watched hours :: 7741 mean CCV :: 45 hours streamed :: Calli (en1)
>348047 watched hours :: 9690 mean CCV :: 36 hours streamed :: Fubuki (jp1)
>335693 watched hours :: 9546 mean CCV :: 35 hours streamed :: Lamy (jp5)
>277168 watched hours :: 12902 mean CCV :: 21 hours streamed :: Rushia (jp3)
>226696 watched hours :: 7372 mean CCV :: 31 hours streamed :: Flare (jp3)
>224813 watched hours :: 5728 mean CCV :: 39 hours streamed :: Kiara (en1)
>213936 watched hours :: 9608 mean CCV :: 22 hours streamed :: Baelz (en2)
>209386 watched hours :: 7034 mean CCV :: 30 hours streamed :: Botan (jp5)
>206284 watched hours :: 15394 mean CCV :: 13 hours streamed :: Gura (en1)
>199271 watched hours :: 9881 mean CCV :: 20 hours streamed :: Mumei (en2)
>187233 watched hours :: 15734 mean CCV :: 12 hours streamed :: Shion (jp2)
>183338 watched hours :: 22495 mean CCV :: 8 hours streamed :: Suisei (jp0)
>176937 watched hours :: 9767 mean CCV :: 18 hours streamed :: Kanata (jp4)
>175346 watched hours :: 7099 mean CCV :: 25 hours streamed :: Noel (jp3)
>158686 watched hours :: 9836 mean CCV :: 16 hours streamed :: Amelia (en1)
>155913 watched hours :: 9383 mean CCV :: 17 hours streamed :: Kuronii (en2)
>153149 watched hours :: 4632 mean CCV :: 33 hours streamed :: Luna (jp4)
>143536 watched hours :: 7815 mean CCV :: 18 hours streamed :: Okayu (jpgamers)
>137639 watched hours :: 22140 mean CCV :: 6 hours streamed :: Aqua (jp2)
>135713 watched hours :: 6264 mean CCV :: 22 hours streamed :: Nene (jp5)
>127029 watched hours :: 4788 mean CCV :: 27 hours streamed :: Towa (jp4)
>125520 watched hours :: 6606 mean CCV :: 19 hours streamed :: Haachama (jp1)
>113850 watched hours :: 9461 mean CCV :: 12 hours streamed :: Ina (en1)
>108291 watched hours :: 10396 mean CCV :: 10 hours streamed :: Mio (jpgamers)
>103558 watched hours :: 14026 mean CCV :: 7 hours streamed :: Korone (jpgamers)
>90000 watched hours :: 3232 mean CCV :: 28 hours streamed :: Mel (jp1)
>84508 watched hours :: 6517 mean CCV :: 13 hours streamed :: Fauna (en2)
>80301 watched hours :: 5519 mean CCV :: 15 hours streamed :: Polka (jp5)
>72611 watched hours :: 5936 mean CCV :: 12 hours streamed :: Sana (en2)
>60144 watched hours :: 1807 mean CCV :: 33 hours streamed :: Ollie (id2)
>57682 watched hours :: 4364 mean CCV :: 13 hours streamed :: Sora (jp0)
>55145 watched hours :: 1843 mean CCV :: 30 hours streamed :: Roboco (jp0)
>45365 watched hours :: 1357 mean CCV :: 33 hours streamed :: Reine (id2)
>31189 watched hours :: 3498 mean CCV :: 9 hours streamed :: Choco (jp2)
>30950 watched hours :: 3458 mean CCV :: 9 hours streamed :: Matsuri (jp1)
>28051 watched hours :: 1096 mean CCV :: 26 hours streamed :: Risu (id1)
>24786 watched hours :: 513 mean CCV :: 48 hours streamed :: Aruran (stars1)
>21212 watched hours :: 949 mean CCV :: 22 hours streamed :: Leda (stars2)
>18284 watched hours :: 3217 mean CCV :: 6 hours streamed :: Aki (jp1)
>16083 watched hours :: 12532 mean CCV :: 1 hours streamed :: AZKi (jp0)
>14127 watched hours :: 781 mean CCV :: 18 hours streamed :: Roberu (stars2)
>13164 watched hours :: 567 mean CCV :: 23 hours streamed :: Temma (stars2)
>12960 watched hours :: 991 mean CCV :: 13 hours streamed :: Anya (id2)
>11068 watched hours :: 862 mean CCV :: 13 hours streamed :: Rikka (stars1)
>8419 watched hours :: 9020 mean CCV :: 1 hours streamed :: Hololive (corp0)
>7553 watched hours :: 619 mean CCV :: 12 hours streamed :: Oga (stars3)
>7016 watched hours :: 558 mean CCV :: 13 hours streamed :: Miyabi (stars1)
>6473 watched hours :: 694 mean CCV :: 9 hours streamed :: Izuru (stars1)
>4653 watched hours :: 552 mean CCV :: 8 hours streamed :: Shien (stars3)
>2639 watched hours :: 1028 mean CCV :: 3 hours streamed :: Moona (id1)

Peko and Miko chart so high this chart would be better remade without them so the difference between the rest would be better seen.

>>13080371
nah it just favors those who spam them
eg see how veibae got in but not nyanners

>>13078503
aah, the old and good nijiway

>>13080450
either put a * or " in those watched hours, you know damn well that's not the full numbers.

>>13080371
>good metric for successful streamers
It’s a decent metric to compare streamers as long as you have the number of hours streamed.
It would be better off split in two “weight classes”

>over 3 hours streamed per day
>under 3 hours streamed per day
(for instance) to separate heavy hitters from heavy grinders

>>13080371
It says more about how often you stream than how many are actually watching.

>>13078503
or not support them, the chuuba eventually choosing to leave and study.

>>13080489
Youtube premium money is based directly on watch time. It doesn't mean much for Twitch streamers though.

https://youtu.be/ECkxzFgbJqQ
is it possible that it will hit 1 million by the end of today?

better than Sana's number they said

>>13080371
At least it's better better than median peak CCV

>>13080861
Selen’s relative popularity was mainly due to the fact that she was frequently playing interesting games, while others where playing some shit. This time the game is shit.

>>13080861
That game is a hard debuff on her while it's a buff for Kiara (compared to JRPGs)

>>13080751
maybe but 2 days is more likely

>>13080861
graduation soon

>>13080751
No, it's been 8 hours already in japan. The average views per day @ 31k views, based on playboard

TOP 5 (non-celebrity/brand)

1. 桐生ココ 49万人 2021/7/1
2. jun channel 39万人 2021/11/15
3. コレコレチャンネル 31万人 2021/7/7
4. バベル 29万人 2021/6/19
5. コレコレチャンネル 26万人 2021/7/4

jun I kneel. Niji koshien btfo

>>13080861
zatsu part

>>13080943
>2. jun channel 39万人 2021/11/15
WTF was he even doing? All I saw was he playing Pokémon platinum and getting his ass kicked

>>13081069

>>13081206
HOLOEN IS FINISHED

>>13081069
Her peak was not much better.

>>13080371
Better than vod for live streamers

>>13081206
So what? I saw this in the last thread.
Her audience is not interested in such games, she kills herself

>>13081206
Oh no oh no
Gura killer... i kneel...

>>13080296
> AnyColor spams shit vtubers.
> Nijiniggers spam shit baits.
Company policies shape up their fan behaviors. Who would have thought!

>>13080450
>383214 watched hours :: 9851 mean CCV :: 39 hours streamed :: IRyS (ensingers)
This is actually impressive. I doubt anyone would guess EN-AZKi would be such a consistent streamer

>>13081283
>he doesn't know
Anon...

>>13080402
> Advertising out of stock products
What a waste of expenditure.

>>13081249
LMFAO, her peak is a lot worse than Sana's worst while doing a debuff stream.

>>13081341
Interestingly enough, she make whatever games entertaining. I can't believe I watched throughout the FFXIV stream. She's on Suisei level in that regard, I did not miss the ToA streams.

>>13081401
Out of stock? Mel and Watame just opened up new packs the other day

>>13081402
>endurance
>debuff

>>13081389
Tell me what i dont know

>>13081341
Irys is impressive in improving, but we can't rule out that she has a big buff on SportsFes for that watched hours for this month, same for Bae.

>>13081448
Endurance is a modifier to the base content. She's playing a decade old wii kirby game.

>OH, LOOK AT THE TIME!
Time for some more loops

>>13081522
Selena plays the debuff game, if she chose the FPS game, then the results would be much better.

>>13081619
One trick pony the niji special

>>13081516
>she has a big buff on SportsFes for that watched hours for this month
>same for Bae.
That's how evebt streams are supposed to work. If these event streams lead to their audience growing by even slightly higher than average, then it may well be called a success.

If they can retain said audience, then it speaks to their talent as entertainers.

>>13081516
>but we can't rule out that she has a big buff on SportsFes for that watched hours
Boosting this or that streamer through company wide events and collabs is pretty much the definition of “box pushing” and a big part of the numbers of many of the mid to small chuubas.

With that said it’s easy to calculate: under 6 hours stream, under 20k average means under 120k contribution from the SportsFes.
Even removing that, the remaining 260k still has her on the Top 10

Holoen numbers
Will there be at least one stream over 10k?

>>13081619
I didn't say anything about Selen.

>>13080861
doesn't get noticed by my boy Mcgee, not relevant.

>>13081807
The hype around FFXIV may boost IRyS to some 15k (down from 18k from the first), and RatGirl may ride the tail end of the Korone buff.

>>13081807
Has Irys played RE 7 before at least?

Sana passed 5k, nice.

>>13081898
>>13081968
Oh, fuck, it’s RE7?

>>13081898
Irys hasn't played RE8 right? Then there will be a good amount of hype to push her, the hard part is the RE8 stream afterwards, we see that Ina hasn't retain much attention for her part 3.

>>13081968
"VILLAGE"

>>13082028
meant for >>13081996

>>13078350
>>13078503

Anybody still tracking Kuzuha/Anya's Vampire cover views? How does the view growth compare to GuraMori KING?

Let's see if Calli, Irys and Bae can reach at least 35k total ccv tonight, I wish the buff on RE8 and Evil Korone can push them over 40k.

>>13082102
>>13082028
there is this thing about this hobby (both “watching chuubas” and numberfagging) who makes people EXTREMELY motivated to do things for their oshi and extremely lazy to do for other chuubas.

>>13082081
Yep, use of that stupid word is the tell tale sign that they are false flagging Nijiniggers.

>>13082221
WHAT?? so there's no actual kuzuha fans in this thread?? color me surprised.

>>13082232
Have you considered the possibility of it being bored shitposters double falseflagging?

>>13079511
>hololive buffed month
>no EN in the list

>>13081807
no gura no 10k

>>13082424
>no EN in the list
Your eyesight reps anon…

>>13082146
i don't think mori has any stream today

>>13082304
No functional difference.

>>13082102
It's at 3.4 mil after 2 weeks, which is obviously faster than 99% of vtuber covers, but it's nowhere near Calligula KING anymore in terms of growth (it got 4 mil in 1 week).

Still, 206k likes and 3.4 mil in 2 weeks is faster than Ayame Goodbye Sengen I think.

>>13082455
IRyS will hit 10k

>>13079077
Vtubers like Pomu are making as much as mid-tier white collar jobs. Holos make substantially more than that. Top Holos like Gura, Mori, Pekora make exponentially more.

>>13082702
Thanks, i really need to hammer in that mori and gura is in a league of their own in terms of chuuba music views.

>>13082702
>3.4 mil in 2 weeks is faster than Ayame Goodbye Sengen I think.
Likely yes, not by much tho it seems.

>>13082914
Indeed

>>13082930
I guess the Ayame's Goodbye Sengen has technically grown faster after the first week since Kuzuha's Vampire got 2 mil in 4 days, whereas it took Ayame 9 days to reach 2 mil.
One of the incredible things about Ayame Goodbye Sengen and Deathstar Getcha is how good the legs were for months after they were released.

>>13082909
>Pomu
Her SC after YT cut is at 90k USD. Her debut was about 7 months ago meaning she has made at most 13000 / month in SC (assuming Anykara doesn’t take a cut and that she has zero out of pocket operational expenses from her streaming activities), which extrapolates to about 160k / year.

That’s a little over a “mid tier” white collar job, more like a high tier (but not media mogul / tech CEO tier)

>>13083508
so why hasn't she quit her job yet?

>>13083508
the cancer thing really helped her huh

>>13083546
Anon
>assuming Anykara doesn’t take a cut and that she has zero out of pocket operational expenses from her streaming activities
is a huge ass assumption that is guaranteed to not be true. Halve the amount and you're probably getting closer to what she actually makes.

So any prediction of today's winner?

its business ofcourse theres a cut.

>>13083546
Because she doesn't actually get that much and she's using her wagie job for the health insurance.

>>13083508
>assuming Anykara doesn’t take a cut and that she has zero out of pocket operational expenses from her streaming activities
this is not the mental retardation thread

>>13083508
Niji/Holo take 50% of what's left after Youtube. There is stuff like membership, merch, sponsorships, ad rev ect to help make up for that.

>>13083609
Hololive

>>13083730
30% youtube, 50/50 split company/talent is the default, other jp companies are like that too.

>>13083624
>>13083546
That’s obviously a ceiling estimate. This anon at >>13083605 has it right and the value is likely half of that.

Also it’s fickle as fuck as a income source: one YT glitch or change of heart and you’re out on your ass for an undisclosed amount of time.

Today's superchats

>>13083804
>Over 50k in two days
Yukimins I kneel

>>13083710
It’s a fucking ceiling estimate. Floor estimate is zero, assuming Anykara takes all of it as their cut.

The real number is not possible to guess because only they know the actual numbers, but should be somewhere in the middle

>>13083804
Lamy almost earned more than everyone combined(around $200)...

>>13079561
>if niji wins, the thread is fine and there are actual discussions.

If

Holodata

>>13083508
>Leaving out Riku and Uncle Sam tsk tsk tsk
No wonder she’s keeping her office job despite her boss putting more work and responsibilities on her. Might also be why she let out her feelings about the upcoming waves.

>>13084090
Pekora is too strong

>>13084106
>Might also be why she let out her feelings about the upcoming waves
what did she say?

>>13084090
FUCK!!! Miko is still within striking distance though but she has to turn up the heat. Quickly losing hope though. COME ON MIKO!!!

>>13084174
Something about how she feels they're putting them out too fast. Might have been some more stuff but I don't remember.

youtube 30%
split 50/50
所得税 45%
住民税 10%

how do we save them bros...

>>13084312
that's sad but true

>>13083804
Blue woman too strong wtf

>>13084298
she put a good fight for half month but she's against Pekora after all

>>13084174
Here’s Pomu talking about it and other numbers stuff. The comments under that video are pretty funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WpFMbkXKRg

>>13084396
?

>>13084396
LMAO

>>13083804
Updated totals for November, now halfway through the month
>Lamy - $74,594
>kson - $65,093
>Rushia - $51,522
>Miko - $35,267
>Kuzuha - $31,876
>Ibrahim - $28,798
>Nene - $28,674
>Mori - $27,896
>Marine - $25,844
>Pekora - $25,308
>Haru - $24,423
>Flare - $20,791
>Matsuri - $20,468

>>13084396
Damn, Pomu let herself go.

>>13084396
Damn, why you gonna doxx Pomu like that bro

>>13084174
Iirc she said something about not her feelings of inadequacy being the lowest subbed member of Wave 1 and that she doesn't agree with management's strategy of shitting out talents because it doesn't allow them to grow their fanbase

https://youtu.be/R6SpqrYh_r8

>>13084396
damn Pomu looks like THAT?

>>13084396
I hope you're trolling and here's your (you), otherwise you copupasted the wrong link bruh.

>>13084513
Ah yes, this. This was slung around as bait when it was posted.

>>13072285
>I was wondering why my numbers and your didn't line up but I guess it's a rounding thing in how the time is calculated.
FOUND IT!
I (>>13080450) was rounding it to the minute while >>13084090 rounds it to the second.
Fixing that fixes my Pekora and most of the others.numbers to the last digit in comparison to Holo_data

>>13084298
She can't get close to Pekora without the sport's festival

>>13082102
Vampire got ~55000 views yesterday, so it is estimated 54K~58K daily views recently

>>13083508
>Anykara doesn’t take a cut
didnt know they are a non-profit/charity organization to help vtubers while take zero cent out of them

>>13084561
Definitely wrong link, here's the correct one >>13084513

>>13083804
That was Namahoshi-chan's highest earning stream ever and with no special event, doing virtual signings is a great way of making money and expecting more vtubers to pick it up soon

https://seesaawiki.jp/hololivetv/
It seems Hololive unofficial wiki is gonna make overseas talents' individual pages.

Lazulight six months anniversary collab.

>>13084090
The Queen is back to the Top, as she should be.

This is her stategy to break the moral of her competitors. She gave her opponents a head start, giving a false hope of winning into them, before the Queen showcase her superiority again.

>>13084782
Walfie costumes?

>>13084821
No it's just Minecraft.

>>13084782
A-at least they beat Sana!
Hololive is over bros

>>13084777
nice

>>13084782
Can’t wait to see what type of merch they announce.

>>13084894
more voice packs...

>>13084777
It amuses me everytime that japanese internet seems like it's stuck in the 2000's with that interface.

>>13084793
It's her payback for the previous incident.

>>13084396
Okay, jokes aside, the guy did a follow up video on the subject

youtube.com/watch?v=Uy5HGhP1Kyc

>>13084777
https://hololive.wiki/wiki/Main_Page
here's another wiki page but it is in English

>>13084662
Pekora also streamed the sports festival dumbass. They are very much on equal ground this month.

>>13084894
It would be disappointing if they didn't have merch by now.

>>13085215
Myth had merch + 5 BGM

>>13085134
???? it's literally the most uneven month we're going to get for a while. Miko got sportfes buff which she milked hard, and Pekora is busy with 3rd gen live every weekday and a not great numbers wise weekend sponsor game.

>>13085134
No. Sportsfest is huge buff for miko this month. She is the "Main" camera for that event and she did 2 streams after the event and gets big numbers.

>>13085317
I'm aware. And Ame had birthday merch even though it was only 4 months since she debut at the time.

>>13085328
Awww poor Nutsagi. Fuck off Noutoddler.

>>13085387
mad about what lmao she's still gonna win the month easily

>>13085365
even fucking anya had merch adn ehr birthday was 3 onths after debut

https://youtu.be/a2gsmcSLMdY
>offcollab
welp, this is most likely the winner, right? what's the schedule like tonight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2gsmcSLMdY

Today's possible winner?

>>13085437
Do NijiID/KR have physical merch?

Here is the combined Top 50 for Holos and Nijis, Nov 1 to Nov 15

The format is
>ranking) median_peak :: avg_peak :: author (companybranch, num_streams)

Here it is
>01) 34711 :: 36589 :: Usada Pekora (holojp, 16 streams)
>02) 28881 :: 32906 :: Houshou Marine (holojp, 12 streams)
>03) 27328 :: 26973 :: Kuzuha (nijijp, 11 streams)
>04) 24919 :: 27932 :: Hoshimachi Suisei (holojp, 7 streams)
>05) 24643 :: 34553 :: Sakura Miko (holojp, 14 streams)
>06) 18740 :: 29771 :: Uruha Rushia (holojp, 6 streams)
>07) 18207 :: 21831 :: Oozora Subaru (holojp, 12 streams)
>08) 17871 :: 21502 :: Murasaki Shion (holojp, 5 streams)
>09) 16578 :: 19754 :: Inugami Korone (holojp, 4 streams)
>10) 15586 :: 19413 :: Gawr Gura (holoen, 6 streams)
>11) 13584 :: 14000 :: Tsukino Mito (nijijp, 3 streams)
>12) 13018 :: 14210 :: Lize Helesta (nijijp, 6 streams)
>13) 12754 :: 13265 :: Watson Amelia (holoen, 9 streams)
>14) 12084 :: 12087 :: Fuwa Minato (nijijp, 11 streams)
>15) 11956 :: 14603 :: Amane Kanata (holojp, 11 streams)
>16) 11542 :: 12699 :: IRyS (holoen, 9 streams)
>17) 10755 :: 9575 :: Ange Katrina (nijijp, 3 streams)
>18) 10571 :: 11131 :: Shishiro Botan (holojp, 11 streams)
>19) 10467 :: 13059 :: Ookami Mio (holojp, 9 streams)
>20) 10113 :: 13199 :: Nanashi Mumei (holoen, 8 streams)
>21) 9775 :: 9385 :: Mori Calliope (holoen, 12 streams)
>22) 9533 :: 11670 :: Ouro Kuronii (holoen, 7 streams)
>23) 9502 :: 10654 :: Kanae (nijijp, 17 streams)
>24) 9150 :: 10282 :: Shirogane Noel (holojp, 8 streams)
>25) 9067 :: 13930 :: Yukihana Lamy (holojp, 15 streams)
>26) 9046 :: 9436 :: Momosuzu Nene (holojp, 10 streams)
>27) 8867 :: 11685 :: Shirakami Fubuki (holojp, 20 streams)
>28) 8852 :: 11701 :: Ninomae Inanis (holoen, 4 streams)
>29) 8533 :: 11592 :: Nekomata Okayu (holojp, 10 streams)
>30) 8340 :: 10372 :: Tsunomaki Watame (holojp, 13 streams)
>31) 8190 :: 8474 :: Yashiro Kizuku (nijijp, 8 streams)
>32) 8014 :: 11076 :: Shiranui Flare (holojp, 10 streams)
>33) 7594 :: 8160 :: Akai Haato (holojp, 8 streams)
>34) 7340 :: 7243 :: Kagami Hayato (nijijp, 10 streams)
>35) 6934 :: 8371 :: Ceres Fauna (holoen, 7 streams)
>36) 6884 :: 7594 :: Ibrahim (nijijp, 17 streams)
>37) 6598 :: 8475 :: Takanashi Kiara (holoen, 11 streams)
>38) 6188 :: 7912 :: Sasaki Saku (nijijp, 10 streams)
>39) 6062 :: 6410 :: Tokoyami Towa (holojp, 12 streams)
>40) 5965 :: 6144 :: Yuuki Chihiro (nijijp, 15 streams)
>41) 5953 :: 9096 :: Hakos Baelz (holoen, 10 streams)
>42) 5722 :: 8846 :: Maimoto Keisuke (nijijp, 7 streams)
>43) 5713 :: 5960 :: Hoshikawa Sara (nijijp, 7 streams)
>44) 5690 :: 8743 :: Tsukumo Sana (holoen, 6 streams)
>45) 5618 :: 5763 :: Himemori Luna (holojp, 13 streams)
>46) 5475 :: 5582 :: Ex Albio (nijijp, 10 streams)
>47) 5447 :: 6467 :: Nui Sociere (nijijp, 9 streams)
>48) 5396 :: 6701 :: Mayuzumi Kai (nijijp, 4 streams)
>49) 5390 :: 6618 :: Omaru Polka (holojp, 9 streams)
>50) 4804 :: 5000 :: Yuzuki Choco (holojp, 7 streams)

Only streamers with 3 or more streams so far were included, sorry Aqua, he-Ayame, Moona and assorted riff raff (all of which streamed this month), and Ayame and others that didn't.

>>13085437
Surprising to me that Nijisanji dropped the ball with merch when it was supposed to be their main bread and butter.
>>13085528
All I see for ID are voice packs.

>>13085596
Here is top 51 to 100

>51) 4650 :: 4394 :: Shiina Yuika (nijijp, 9 streams)
>52) 4643 :: 6132 :: Ars Almal (nijijp, 12 streams)
>53) 4375 :: 4839 :: Yozora Mel (holojp, 8 streams)
>54) 4369 :: 4079 :: Furen E Lustario (nijijp, 13 streams)
>55) 4327 :: 5209 :: Leos Vincent (nijijp, 17 streams)
>56) 4145 :: 5402 :: Tokino Sora (holojp, 8 streams)
>57) 4029 :: 5511 :: Saegusa Akina (nijijp, 7 streams)
>58) 4024 :: 4002 :: Honma Himawari (nijijp, 12 streams)
>59) 3963 :: 4515 :: Hanabatake Chaika (nijijp, 7 streams)
>60) 3926 :: 4155 :: Machita Chima (nijijp, 4 streams)
>61) 3880 :: 3881 :: Joe Rikiichi (nijijp, 5 streams)
>62) 3735 :: 3792 :: Axia Krone (nijijp, 11 streams)
>63) 3580 :: 3191 :: Mashiro (nijijp, 6 streams)
>64) 3568 :: 4687 :: Lauren Iroas (nijijp, 12 streams)
>65) 3566 :: 3468 :: Hakase Fuyuki (nijijp, 12 streams)
>66) 3161 :: 5037 :: Kaida Haru (nijijp, 15 streams)
>67) 3063 :: 3118 :: Amamiya Kokoro (nijijp, 13 streams)
>68) 2953 :: 3233 :: Suo Sango (nijijp, 9 streams)
>69) 2829 :: 3286 :: Bora Nun (nijikr, 14 streams)
>70) 2657 :: 3799 :: Aki Rosenthal (holojp, 3 streams)
>71) 2513 :: 2761 :: Selen Tatsuki (nijien, 14 streams)
>72) 2384 :: 7771 :: Luis Cammy (nijijp, 7 streams)
>73) 2356 :: 2637 :: Roboco-san (holojp, 14 streams)
>74) 2355 :: 2381 :: Kureiji Ollie (holoid, 13 streams)
>75) 2339 :: 4612 :: Natsuiro Matsuri (holojp, 6 streams)
>76) 2230 :: 2312 :: Elira Pendora (nijien, 11 streams)
>77) 2201 :: 2689 :: Belmond Banderas (nijijp, 4 streams)
>78) 2134 :: 2702 :: Takamiya Rion (nijijp, 12 streams)
>79) 2100 :: 2375 :: Elu the Elf (nijijp, 23 streams)
>80) 2082 :: 2255 :: Shellin Burgundy (nijijp, 6 streams)
>81) 2051 :: 2012 :: Matsukai Mao (nijijp, 8 streams)
>82) 2046 :: 2549 :: Debidebi Debiru (nijijp, 9 streams)
>83) 2033 :: 2205 :: Suzuka Utako (nijijp, 4 streams)
>84) 2023 :: 2149 :: Fushimi Gaku (nijijp, 7 streams)
>85) 2021 :: 2351 :: Yorumi Rena (nijijp, 14 streams)
>86) 2018 :: 2113 :: Yumeoi Kakeru (nijijp, 7 streams)
>87) 1948 :: 2007 :: Pavolia Reine (holoid, 11 streams)
>88) 1945 :: 1930 :: Oliver Evans (nijijp, 12 streams)
>89) 1930 :: 1785 :: Sister Claire (nijijp, 6 streams)
>90) 1899 :: 2061 :: Pomu Rainpuff (nijien, 10 streams)
>91) 1892 :: 2453 :: Makaino Ririmu (nijijp, 11 streams)
>92) 1787 :: 2926 :: Nagao Kei (nijijp, 20 streams)
>93) 1784 :: 2249 :: Higuchi Kaede (nijijp, 8 streams)
>94) 1739 :: 1987 :: Kuroi Shiba (nijijp, 4 streams)
>95) 1704 :: 2167 :: Finana Ryugu (nijien, 12 streams)
>96) 1531 :: 1931 :: Naraka (nijijp, 6 streams)
>97) 1482 :: 1534 :: Hayama Marin (nijijp, 9 streams)
>98) 1451 :: 1711 :: Uzuki Kou (nijijp, 6 streams)
>99) 1449 :: 5053 :: Genzuki Tojiro (nijijp, 6 streams)
>100) 1393 :: 1346 :: Ryushen - Game (nijijp, 7 streams)

>>13082781
I kinda doubt that. I think she might be able to hit 10k, but I don't think it's anywhere nearly being guaranteed. Her CCV will more likely be around 7-8k (maybe close to 9k). Is RE8 still a buff game nowadays? I've seen plenty of chuubas playing it and it no longer has the fresh FOTM feel anymore
(I will be happy if she can cross 10k, though)

>>13085605
>All I see for ID are voice packs.
well fuck

>>13085596
>>13085632
Pic related contains the full list.

With Moona absence Bora Nun is the highest foreign branch non HoloEN of the ranking. Her numbers will be missed

>>13084090
Welcome back based pirate

>>13085134
Lmao no one in Hololive is equal to Pekora. You gotta always pull out big number on normal stream to be her equal, and almost all of them can't do that without resorting event/costume buff or some big collabs or some niche stream. Marine is the closest to Pekora's level, but she lacks consistency.

>>13085596
To your experience for counting medians, how many streams would you prefer for each month as a bar to prevent cases like Ayame streaming with a bang and leaves?

>>13085771
5 in the month, that's the cutting point the nip numberfags use.

>>13085508
>>13085512
Seems like an Easy 40k +

>>13085605
Okay, figured.
Seems Anycolor reallllly doesn't wanna give up a cut for physical merch to a 3rd party like Geekjack, so they're not giving out physical merch to overseas markets.
IMO, that tells you all you need to know about priorities and how much value they place on their overseas divisions.

>>13086039
Well that's a lot of potential sales lost.

>>13086039
Anycolor is just trusting the plan anon.

>>13085720
A couple of interesting thing

>Mito is back with a vengeance
>Choco made into the top 50
>Bora Nun outranks all of HoloID
>Selen outranks all of holoID
>Astel outranks all of NijiEN Wave 3
>Petra outranks all of NijiEN Wave 3
>Hana Machia is no longer the highest ranked NijiID

>>13086039
hey you gotta take it slow and steady

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdL5pnwy2RU

>>13085508
Marine + Noel off collab bath 2 pairs of BOOBA : 81,597
So Marine + Rushia = 81,597/2+ few hundred (1.01 pairs of BOOBA)

>>13083787
YAGOO would never fuck with the algorithm and throw Pomu on her fairy ass.

>>13085838
I give it 60k at LEAST.

>>13086415
Excellent math and logic anon.

>>13086655
Even more considering the timeslot which is an hour after Pekotime, Pekora might give them gen 3 unity buff and be the opening act for the funnel.

Updated

>>13084106
What's worse is that Anycolor(Cover too most likely) takes all the youtube money and pays corporate taxes on it, gives it to Pomu, and then she has to pay Japanese health care system taxes along with Uncle Sam's cut. At least she doesn't have to pay Japanese income tax too since the US has a treaty in place with Japan not to take income tax from the same person twice.

>>13086776
>Eat
kek

>>13086776
>Most subs less sponsorship
>Least subs more sponsorship
.. maybe subs is not-

>>13086776
>>13086846
>Eat
This slot was sponsored by
>The Architect

>>13086776
I wonder, is it lack of desire to do sponsorships, costs, or something else that leads to Gura having the least sponsorships? (In that sponsors don't think she's good at shilling)
It's a curious thing.

>>13086888
Gura's actual real subs is around maybe 400k-500k while others are at 500k-600k. I think YT needs to do a bit of investigating forbMyth's sub counts.

>>13086776
The list is missing the Cookie Run: kingdom sponsor for Gura. It's listed under Ame, but they were shilling it together.

>>13085407
Anon don't bother replying to bait. If he actually watches Miko, he should know that Miko has been busy preparing to move this month after the Sports Fes ended. She already took a couple of days off and will continue to take more days off until her move is complete. If anything, this is actually Subaru's or Marine's best chance to take the #2 spot.

>>13087074
Lack of desire mostly.
Kiara has said before that the girls are free to pick and choose what sponsors they want unless they're specifically asked for.
That said, it just shows how much money they're making if they can turn down sponsorships like its nothing.
>>13087124
Thanks for catching that.

another break? https://youtu.be/rg_74n-6ke8

>13087115
Show proof or actual seething and coping? Kek

>>13087202
The kanji for that is almost always used for good news.
Probably her 3D live announcement since it was delayed earlier.

>>13087169
Right, I do remember watching that. Given Gura's lazy and also likely making way more on VOD views + Memberships than the rest of the myth girls...
That really makes me wonder what kind of sponsors have lined up for HoloEN that we don't see. (I have no doubt Raid: Shadowlegends is shameless enough to have offered)

>>13087202
she said she was working offscreen on something, maybe that?

>>13087202
It's titled :D anon, Haachama is likely mocking at all us doomerfags with the black background + white text.
>>13087300
Thanks for the clarification, that would make sense, if she's figured out things in her schedule to get it done.

>>13087115
>Gura's actual real subs is around maybe 400k-500k
can't believe shark girl mogged kezuha with back to back 11m views on cover and og song

even with nerf, she still winning

>>13087303
>>13087169
>>13087074
At least for me, Taco Bell and Bookwalker is the most fun shilling stream from Gura.

>>13086776
Present a data table or graph here and no one bothers to fact check it kek

I can't wait for the Omocat × HoloMyth merch to drop. A merch made for the Western market like this will likely show us a more accurate picture of how popular HoloEN is in the EOP side of things.

>>13087937
Gonna wait for the whole set to drop, the shirt is way too "FULL POWER LEVEL" for me so far, but the jacket looks alright.

>>13087937
is Omocat big enough to satisfy the demand?

>>13087202
How chaotic will it be if its actually a graduation announcement

>>13088007
agreed... but i'll probably get the shirt anyways and just wear it around the house.

>>13084876
No they didn't

Now, if you want to see something reaaaaaally interesting (and for some, maybe a little concerning)
>pic related

It is the current snapshot of that chart the NipBro makes with the mean average of peaks for each company..
Hololive JP with a massive incline, HololiveEN with a more modest incline and Nijisanji JP...

>>13085512

Kinda crazy how Senchou is going with all these collabs. She mentioned on stream too that she will have one of these with Flare and Mel this month too (Off-collabs)

>>13088023
The tweet announcing the collab is heavily liked. And the fact that Omori was played by many big Youtubers is another way of saying, yes Omocat seems like a big deal.

>>13088186
S-slow and steady bros . .

>>13088217
Mel is seriously grinding. She is even booking a collab with Marine.

>>13079511
Why JP fanbase is getting bigger when EN fanbase is getting smaller. Since Coco graduated no one care about reddit or meme anymore. EN without meme is just a dead EN.

>>13088186
>>13088324
Trust the plan

>>13088186
Uh........
Oh that's kind of a concern ain't it. They haven't been below the 4k line since June 2019...Now, I know the month isn't done, but still...

>>13088186
Culture and cultivate bros.. steady bros..

>>13088186
Aaaaaaand that's gonna be a bait post in a few hours.

>>13088186

When is the Splatoon tournament happening? Maybe that will bump the average quite a bit (Maybe)

>>13088471
Is it on the Bora's graduation week?

I just realized, considering the few discussions on boardat how excessive NijiEN and other groups are at swearing in their stream. Do you guys think they intentionally do it in order to have their Miko clip moment? It makes sense in that scenario but the viability of second fiddle is always lower.

>>13088186
slow and steady..

>>13088186
Uhhhhh let's give Nijibros a copium and say "the bump was caused by the sportfest and practice streams"

>>13088538
They are always baiting for that viral moment. But it instead makes them more cringe.

>>13088538
>EN girl swearing
>ok
>JP girl swearing in English
>cute

>>13088684
they declined because of the sportfest?

>>13088471
Its a 2 days tournament it wont bump their numbers

>>13088538
>Miko clip moment
Are you retarded? She got the moment because it was a cute JOP anime girl saying "nigga" with perfect inflection. The humor is in the unexpectedness and retards are more likely to forgive some Japanese girl for saying that. Some EOP chick swearing in English is perfectly normal and mundane, and if they dare say "the dreaded n-word" they'd get fucking cancelled in the West.
This has to be bait. Which I realize I'm taking which makes me the retard huh.

>>13088875
>Are you retarded?
no but NijiEN are if what you say is true.

>>13088186
T-trickle-down bros?

>>13089027
Why? yes it is trickling down, just as planned

>>13088766
It's called a copium for a reason anon, it doesn't need logic.

>>13088845

When will it happen tho? End of the month?

>>13088875
All of you said and one more thing: Kizuna AI catapulted herself into the eyes of the western world with her perfect inflection of "Fuck you", still in 2017
Clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QYh90jhrhY (jump 3 minutes)
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyFYH-7Ody0

That was more than a full year before MIko did, and Miko was not even the first to do it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ8t6A-g5hc

>>13088538
>swearing excessively
>Retards clips it, labels it as chemistry and post it here
Niji clipniggers I swear

There has been illegal view siphoning.
IRyS stole 500 viewers from Sana.

>>13089267
It's an endurance, she can have it back

>>13089121
this weekend

>>13088538
Yes. To attract vt/lsf edgy niggers

>>13089134
Right, Kizuna's fakyu is legendary, though I think Mikochi's にぇっが~ went around more. Kizuna's definitely had more of an effect though in that I remember it helped her ride her wave of popularity to global significance. Mikochi's was really significant to her in that it basically saved her numbers but it didn't have nearly as big of an effect. Though I guess Kizuna would've made it big either way so I can't really chalk it down to fakyu while part of Mikochi's claim to fame with the EOP audience was にぇっが~.

>>13088186
Here is the same chart, but without HoloEN and JP, and with NijiEN, HoloID and Holostars. Everybody is trending down, for assorted reasons

>HoloEN, due to the end of the effect of the debut numbers in the average
>Holostars, because APEX season is just starting and Astel is not doing much high view APEX streams
>HoloID, because Moona only did one stream this month
And NijiJP. Later I'll split men and women to see what's going on, I genuinely have no clue.

>>13089267
>look at Sana she's having a shitty stream! only 5.1k peak!
>look at Elira is having an amazing stream with a grand 3.1k peak!
When does NijiEN clear the tutorial boss?

>>13089440
>Kizuna's fakyu is legendary
I think it was a bit forced because she said that out of nowhere. The move feels like too corporate as if she's reading from a script.

>>13089134
>That stream was more more than TWO YEARS ago

Jesas, time flies so fast
Also, seeing Miko having a slow chat is bizarre

>>13089662
Either way it worked. It pretty much because the default "fuck you" soundbank for ten thousand memes back then

Nene will take a break from streaming due to her health. She was told that she has been pushing herself too hard lately

https://twitter.com/momosuzunene/status/1460442779889246210

>>13089662
Anon, she was literally reading the game's dialogue

>>13089600
Nijisanji must have good summers.

Wasn't the lock down worse in the summer? Maybe that explains it, less people going to the park or dinner or someshit.

>>13088186
I recall the olympics having a big effect on HoloJP numbers. I think the difference in size between NijiJP and HoloJP makes HoloJP more susceptible to random events than NijiJP. Despite being less suceptable and having lower variance NijiJP lost 40% in 4 months.

Irys incline lately. good for her. The most consistence en aside from ina and bae.

>>13085720
Told you Enna is inclining

>>13085720
IRyS is the 3rd most viewed HoloEN? When the fuck did this happen?

>>13090385
Undokai.

>>13090385
She not lazy that what happen.

>>13090259
Both Enna and Nina inclined their median but only enough to cross 1k from 981 and 979 (respectively) in October

>>13089600
>>13088186
Thank you so much for this.
But i gotta ask, do you have rules on what you include or not?
I'm not the brightest in math so maybe i did something wrong but i got:
>HoloEN (11558)

>>13090428
>Undokai.
It's not. You can remove that stream altogether and she would still be ahead of Kronii

>>13085720
Festival....

>>13090481
>I'm not the brightest in math so maybe i did something wrong but i got:
Holostats ate one Calli stream (at least) which I didn't manually reinserted because I don't have the average.
Also streams under 10 min are striken from the record because they're more likely than not restarts.

And also: are you using JST for your timezone?

>>13090551
This is a result purely of her own making, and it's up to her to decide if she wants to really get back into the swing of things and try and rejoin the box, or stay where she is, focus more on her roommate and ultimately become like Chcoo/Mel where the focus is more on roommate than main. Though in Mel's case she appears to be shifting her focus more towards Hololive as of late.

>>13090151
>Nijisanji must have good summers.
>Wasn't the lock down worse in the summer?
You need to do your reps anon, if you don't know what happens in the summer that inclines Nijisanji as a whole you need to lurk this thread some 12 more months

>>13089600
>Later I'll split men and women to see what's going on
FUCK, "later" ended up being now.

Here is the same chart, with NijiBoys and NijiGirls separated as well.
The drop was across the board, seems to have been even worse at the boys side.
I don't really have an explanation for that.

Question for the people really paying attention to Nijisanji: other than the end of their baseball season is there anything hurting the overall numbers on Nijisanji?
Maybe more streamers entering the "idol route" and reducing activity?

>>13090551
damn she's actually dead last now, didnt even notice that

>>13090597
Yeah JST, I just list down HoloEN's yesterday since i'm curious. When i saw yours i just include today's streams.
Anyway, it seems Sportsfest barely buffed HoloEN huh? (i do know Kronii, Ina and Gura had barely streamed yet but i thought they'll make it to atleast 12.5k)

why are irystocrats such numberfags?

>>13090811
HoloEn did like, barely any real followup streams, whereas there were quite a few on the JP side.
Sigh, goddamn fucking wasted chance for extra numbers.

>>13090844
You should check the Kronii general, they've been begging the Kronies in there to check out her streams during their oshi's break.

>>13088007
I can wear the jacket to work. The T-shirt is for conventions only.

>>13090811
Not much practice stream or followup stream, and I remember many EN members did practiced but they weren't streaming (at least that is what I know from watching Subaru and Miko's practice stream, you can see them right there)

>>13090844
I thought it was just one guy in the thread who keeps cheering for Irys and her usual 5k. Good that she is inclining though.

>>13090844
Someone explained it weeks ago. Betting on IRyS is like betting on the dark horse in a horse race. She also is slowing inclining and building her base which is pretty interesting

>>13091060
>>13090876
Yeah but somehow even though Sportsfest is done.
HoloJP is fucking buffed right now, all mid-high tiers are getting numbers above their average even on Normal Streams.
Pekora barely got below 30k.

Irys 10k get.

50 minutes in RE8, Irys finally reaches 10k

>>13089600
This goes to show how much weight Moona pulls for HoloID’s numbers

>>13090385
Sportfes

>>13090844
>Why is ____ fanbase such numberfags?

>>13090844
her stream is inclining her music on the other hand...
irystrocrat needs some win somehow

>>13091197
Yeah, her karaokes are massive outliers

>>13091270
She hasn't released anything in four months. Not that I think new releases would do amazing but there's not much to compare with.

>>13091280
Minecraft and utawaku are her main content tho

>>13079718
>inb4 yab list

>>13091356
Good thing she gets great numbers on them then

>>13089778
She broke down on stream. Her manager needs to take a "break", too.

>>13091455
She was inclining so well, it is a pity. What's her main complaint, other than having worked herself into an unhealthy state?

>>13091522
sub numbers, which is the worst way to measure your worth in hololive

>>13089778
Called it >>13023021

manesan need some spanking for overlooking her health

>>13091008
Her fans overlaps a lot with Myth and Council. Basically people that stuck around because she was the newest girl after Myth but also would frequent her even though Council exist now.
>>13091270
She is working on stuff in the background. Maybe a new EP and a cover. Her music is handled by Omega. She has no say in the matter.

>>13091522
comparing herself to the rest of her gen, some unlucky things also happened to her roommate if you want to include that

>>13091608
>comparing herself to the rest of her gen
>>13091553
>sub numbers,
FOR FUCK SAKE! WTFare they even doing? The most useless metric of them all and that's what she focus on?

>>13085662
10k get

irys lost 300 when bae started

>>13091695
I mean, what's the first number you see when talking about a channel?

>>13091197
kek imagine if Moona or Ollie graduates like what happened with Bora, it’ll be over for HoloID

>>13090648
The peak was July, not August.

>>13091608
>comparing herself to the rest of her gen
Lamy anime hit her hard huh..

>>13091608
>>13091553
Fucking Nene, instead of thinking of yourself in being in the 99.99% percentile in viewers/SCs/Subs you have to compare yourself to the only 30 people ahead of you.

Oof... The censored version cut some views for IRyS.

>>13091849
Edengumi debuted in July, that boosted the baseball numbers even higher.

>>13091980
Bae started, some people were probably waiting for Bae

18k for HoloEN

>>13091553
>>13091940
>sub numbers
she needs that Coco speech about Marie Antoinette to watame

>>13091817
Depends immensely on the channel. Nobody talks about subs number for Shibuya Hal or Patra (for instance)

>>13091940
>>13091695
i mean, reading anti comments probably aggravates the feeling of inferiority a lot more since she regularly ego-searches

>>13092112
Should have learn the art of not giving a fuck from Suisei.

>>13090771
>NijiJP females
>2.8k
If you wanted fame and money I think Nijisanji would be choice #2 at this point. The only female they've debuted in 15 months has a CCV median of like 1.3k or something.

>>13092290
arent the vspo girls inclining these days? some people have been saying they're #3 in japan now

>>13092374
merise will claim that with Bora reincarnation and maybe matsuri

>>13092374
kinda , because cover for some reason doesn't want to release a gen 6

>>13092374
Dunno, I don't have the numbers so I'd like to not guess but if that's true then it'd be sad if Nijisanji falls to #3. Remember, as much as we meme there are more females in Nijisanji than males. Also I think you have to be competent at games to be in vspo.

>>13092470
They should, just so they have some people to delegate some work to. A few good shills and it might reduce tension.

>>13084513
I’m honesty surprised she has the lowest number of subs in her group, she was a quite successful indie growing rapidly back at the time. At least good SCs remain.

>>13090473
Nina is actively damaging hers with jojo watchalongs but it's only relevant in this thread.

>>13084513
This is funny. A lot of NijiEN fans like to prop her up as somebody who would rather join NijiEN instead of Hololive because she was such a Nijisanji superfan. You would think if she was such a big Nijisanji fan that she would know that this is how Nijisanji does things, lol. They shit out wave after wave after wave. Its been that way since the very beginning. Some "superfan" she is.

>>13090771
Bottom members. That's why I've asked to make another one separating top 20 males and top 20 females to see the difference but it was ignored.

>>13092732
Petra and Reimu are more superfans than her.

>>13092470
releasing a new gen is kind of tricky, i think i remember coco saying something like feeling weird seeing newer members get huge numbers right from the start and matsuri saying that mgmt should make sure that releasing new members would not make the existing members lose benefits

>>13091940
The problem is because she feels like she is the runt of her gen. She's also a former idol and idols are deathly afraid of being the last in anything.

>>13092033
both Bae and Irys are bad in horror games so people were going to watch both. They share a lot of viewers because seem to have great chemistry. They are the bickering divorced couple that is still sweet towards each other. They don't go hard in the yuri baiting though. They are just sweet lowkey. People are jumping tabs because Irys is exploring and the jumpscares will take a long time at this point

>>13091940
She didn't say anything about subs, fuck off with your drama fagging.

>>13092885
Matsuri is basically saying the same thing Yagoo said, they need to grow into the need of having a new gen or you end up like Nijisanji where the stragglers don’t get much if any sponsors or merch tie-ins. The group is largely peaceful because everyone gets to have their share of the cake right now.

>>13090771
This splatoon tournament is involving a lot of vtubers and they’re streaming their POVs all the time while training. It gets somewhat lower views for a majority of them. September is always a weak month compared to August, October is a bit of surprise though. And no, they’re not really going “idol route”, at least right now. The next concert is quite far anyway, most of them (except maybe Mito) are streaming as usual.

Baaaeeeeee noooooo.
Why did you walk away first you stupid rrraat aaarrggghhh

>>13093086
Maybe Cover can shave off HoloEN. That deadweight is taking up too much space, where a much better HoloJP gen can actually get better views and engagement.

>>13093233
kek

>>13093197
Let see if she can break the curse of Bad Ending

Moona’s Villain just reached 4 million. Why do you think the reason why the Baddest is taking so long to reach 1 mil?
https://youtu.be/Jr3Z9qtBk7k

>>13093197
Anyone who does that ending first is a bad streamer. The other ending is best for enjoying the game and for numbers and the game is literally trying to let you know that

>>13093332
i personally dislike the MV art and the baddest is not that good compared to the other one

>>13092746
Not that guy but I have some numbers for the top 20 of total NijiJPs for the month of October up to the 29th. The median is 7633. A lot better but not hololive tier. My dataset doesn't distinguish between male and female. If we only use the top 10 of Nijisanji, which is only 8% of the total, Nijisanji is 12711 compared to the entirety of HoloJP which is at 12728.

So, there you have it. The top 10 of NijiJP's CCV median does not beat HololJP's top 31 CCV median.

>>13086328
>Hana Machia is no longer the highest ranked NijiID
you think she will finaly stop sabotaging herself?

>>13093565
She wants it this way.

>>13093233
>HoloEN
when HoloID is right there in front of you

>>13093486
Obviously with the amount of 2view tier niji's the number goes down hard but overall the top 20 seems to be doing decently.

>>13093486
Anon please give a top 20 for holos and let's see how high they go.

>>13092694
Well if Nina wasn’t doing that, she would lead her wave in every category. Not just subs and SC, but also live viewers. She has two Jojo watchalongs in a row next. Will be declining further from that.

>>13093708
Can't drop HoloID because Moona getting laid off will make her quit.
Also ID actually did their reps and can communicate with their JP senpais.
Imagine being employed by a Japanese company for a year and still not be able to communicate in Japanese.

>>13093721
Yeah, they weigh down the median a lot. The top 20 does more than twice as well.
>>13093771
I think the top 10 Nijis vs the top 31 Holos gives the message it isn't a contest, no need to continuously set arbitrary limits if the top ten of Nijisanji cannot beat the entirety of HoloJP.

>>13093708
Pls stop replying to the EN schizo
For a better /#/

>>13093876
Do it just for fun

>>13093086
Nijisanji is basically like EA releasing FIFA 2019, FIFA 2020, FIFA 2021, NBA 2K19, NBA 2K20, NBA 2K21 etc. They look okay at first due to ads and marketing, but then they default back to playing apex while Hololive is like Bethesda releasing Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, etc. Each release is enriching the lore.

>>13094046
isn't fifa a money printer?

>>13094160
$1.34 billion in revenue in it's fiscal Q4 2021. Yeah a big money printer.

>>13093332
Villian has a better art.

dont give up nijibros we still have this!

>>13093876
>>13093486
I am retarded, I was comparing Nijisanji to HoloJP September numbers. The HoloJP med for that period of time is 14995 and NijiJP is 12903.

Volume, being nice with China, Sony, and Konami is keeping Nijisanji as competitive as they are. If the chinks were okay with Hololive and Sony created a vtuber agency Nijisanji could be demoted to second banana.

>>13094295

>and Sony created a vtuber agency

Not even the anon knows..

>>13093860
HoloID can be a good add-on, since they don't take much effort to maintain. HoloEN is wasting to much resources on managers and useless shit.