/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Would you call this "3 view" level?

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434ranking

Finally a thread, refreshing the catalog scared me.

>>13095331
2-digit views, still a 2view.

I was watching Hakos' stream and stuck around for SCs. She got 66k yen, which is nothing to write home about. The interesting thing is it was more than half Korean. She didn't read SCs for too long so she could have gotten more. Also she sometimes makes an effort to read the ones that are in Korean, at least the names, so that may pay off later.

I know little about Korean culture, could Hakos get Korean gachikoi?

https://twitter.com/Holo_Data/status/1460410582297763843/photo/1
fake data numbers

>>13095537
IRyS got 28k yen in Korean money too.

>>13095595
That came from 1 dude spamming empty SCs and 1 akasupa with just Hirys as a message. Her SCs are always Half NA and half mix SEA donos

>>13095796
maintaining 9kish.

>>13095296
Is Japan genetically racist? I heard they eat so much rice that they develop a unique type of enzyme that fucks up their taste buds.

Back to vtuber numbers:
This is a good short:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NYsqm2E41k
> short
> fresh
> lore friendly

These are bad shorts:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNoxM_Kxoa-_gOtoyjbux7Q/videos
> too long
> too old
> too much lore (11 characters)

>>13095842
Collab with IronMouse, Vei and who else?

>>13095842
That's pretty for a single POV collab. VShojo ceiling is not too far from their floor, huh?

>>13095969
I hope they get better with time. It's clearly management making them and they seem to be getting better, that Ame one was cute.

https://youtu.be/wtzD4xVUDAA
more animation

>>13095969
It’s fine they got the introductions out of the way, which are kinda important for the new shorts audience, and can now put out wacky woohoo clips.

>>13095796
>VS amongus collab single pov
>10k only
twitch is a jooke ind discoverability

Hololive Over 100k Concurrent Live Views (Holostats)

** Top 10 **

07/01/2021 491,342 Coco Graduation stream
05/07/2021 194,140 Gura Costume reveal
10/21/2020 145,305 Miko 3D Return stream
10/21/2020 140,116 Noel Costume reveal
07/03/2021 139,393 Marine 1M gen3 3DLive
10/18/2020 137,900 Marine Costume reveal
07/29/2021 136,068 Marine 2nd Costume reveal
05/03/2021 135,527 Mori Costume reveal
12/13/2020 128,528 Pekora Pekomama debut
05/27/2021 126,480 Subaru Costume reveal

** The Rest **

07/30/2021 124,596 Marine Birthday LIVE
12/31/2020 123,926 Hololive NYE stream
11/13/2020 119,493 Gura 2nd Karaoke stream
08/14/2020 113,092 Botan Hololive debut
01/31/2021 111,367 Nene Costume reveal
11/08/2020 109,860 Rushia Gen3 Smashbros
05/02/2021 109,792 Ayame Costume reveal
07/05/2020 109,528 Kanata 3D debut
06/27/2020 108,689 Coco 3D debut
07/18/2021 108,004 Rushia 2nd anniversary
06/23/2021 107,020 Coco Costume reveal
07/12/2020 105,716 Watame 3D debut
08/12/2020 103,408 Lamy Hololive debut
10/04/2020 101,868 Noel Outfit reveal
05/07/2021 101,843 Amelia Costume reveal
11/15/2020 101,171 Shion Costume reveal
05/09/2021 100,436 Aqua 2nd 3DLive

** Non-streams **
09/30/2021 118,000+ Coco Chat

===

Has anything over 100k happened since Sept 30?

Going forward, what streams would break 100k?

>>13096512
How dare you, Twitch has its own separate Vtuber category, and a lot of 2views on YT are 3views on Twitch. How dare you!

>>13096636
YT doesn't artificially inflate views.

>>13096616
HoloEN mass graduation kek

>>13096636
The number of 2views depresses me. I've been dumpster diving as of late and coming across good models with good rigging and 2-10 live viewers. Lote of them have holo and niji tags. You'd be surprised how many PNG tubers use Koikatsu models.

I feel like things are pure luck sometimes.

>>13096512
The King-maker system is completely fair and just…

>>13096687
holocope

>>13096687
It's worse. Youtube deflates views.

>>13096636
i know you are being ironice but
if amazon cared enough they would have invested on twitch discover capabilities or automatization and be the dominat giant of the streaming industry and actually be making money on the platform. Twitch is best streaming platfrom in the near future but i feel the other are catching up since they haven come up with anything new.

>>13096687
so one culls the views while the other legally/illegally viewbot them.

>>13096711
The thing that really depresses me is when I make a meme thread and it gets filled with 2views trying desperately to promote themselves. On the one hand it kind of ruins the thread, but on the other hand I feel so bad that I don't say anything

So, what do you call this collab?

>Roberu 2k on Apex
>Ollie and rrat collab

>>13097165
Astella schizo's biggest fap in his life?

>>13097165
Winning son threesome collab

>>13096807
How the fuck is it holocope when holo wasn’t even mentioned? Nijiniggers really want to put blame on anything Holo related

>>13096975
>Twitch is best streaming platfrom in the near future
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/qskrhh/twitch_might_be_testing_removing_ad_free_viewing/?sort=new
>cant skip ads
>rampant of viewbots
>shitty vod viewing

Gura channel is dying

>>13097228
dont forget the annoying copyright mute bots.

>>13097267
I know fellow nousagi, Gura's graduation seems iminent.

>>13097267
She only has 6 streams this month
give it some minecrafts and karaoke and will be back to her regular.
>>13097228
to behonest twitch NEEDS to make money somehow but never developed an add viewing culture unlike youtube. Even if adblock exist a lot people dont use it specially on mobile

Is there any difference in how youtube treat Premium & Regular user?
i mean adblock is invalidate CCV but if a Premium user using adblock it still count right? and how about VOD views on MV, are looping same playlist for hours still count if you are a premium user?

>>13097380
Ayame channel is dying, she has 0 streams this month.
Shitpost aside is she only gonna stream on her birthday? Is this some sort of ridiculous buff snowballing behind the scenes?

>>13097165
>this is happening and there isn't a single bait thread about it
>astellaschizo hasn't said a PEEP
Is it past his bed time?
Or is it just proof that beggars don't even watch Holostars. By the way that's Robe's usual numbers when it comes to collabs/non normal streams.

>>13097439
no concrete evidence yet.
Only difference is the omeny they make the the channel creator

>>13097165
Is this equivalent to Kiara pekora collab? You know meeting your oshi collab

>>13097483
Bae - already filtered the hardcore idolfags during her debut. Collabing with the star won't do anything since she has nothing to lose.
Ollie - business as usual.
Roberu - business as usual.

>>13097660
I meant the guy who sperged out over EN hating Holostars so much that he's made like 3 or 4 OPs where he ended the post with "I want to kill myself due to their behavior"

>>13097660
>Bae - already filtered the hardcore idolfags during her debut. Collabing with the star won't do anything since she has nothing to lose.
Not me. As a proud unicorn I was just assuming she was joking to make me jealous in her playful way. Now that she betrayed me I will anti her.

>>13097793
Where are your red SCs? You are poor inside and outside.

>>13097165
You know what, pretty based of Ollie to cockblock Bae. We all know the rrat would jump at any chance of sucking Roberu cock if no one was looking

>>13097439
For the purposes of ads, Premium users don't matter since they don't get ads anyway. They might count them if the ping system is set up to not ping them as well. You'd have to find a good chunk of Premium users on this board and get them to participate in view testing.

>>13097793

>>13096616
i can see pekora's new outfit get top 5, gura next outfit might get 100k+ too but i doubt mori can get 100k+ without the first ever outfit buff

>>13097660
The idea that losing idolfags is a guarantee to lose your SC's is pretty funny when Ollie is taken into account, considering there's been multiple months where she made more than the rest of ID1 and 2 put together.

Offcollab postponed no gold medal today

>>13095296
Wtf is Australian cuisine? Meatpies and Tim Tams and fuckin Marmite?

>>13097228
What about the paying to promote / boost visibility feature, is it still in beta?

>>13098066
wait really? damn the schedule for the night seems really empty without it.

So, gold medal is gonna be taken by mito's free part concert huh?

>>13098153
>pekora gets ape escape working again
heh, nothing personal, kid

>>13098066
Post the Tweet at least: https://twitter.com/uruharushia/status/1460501746728402945
Looks like she's sick, spooked that she's got the kung flu.

>>13098216
What is the predictions for this? Should be huge right? It is Mito after all.

>>13098251
only has one blood vessel going up the brain, makes sense why she's paranoid

>>13098268
25-40k

>>13098216
looks like it? unless theres some random totsu or something that pops up

>>13097793
Show me your membership, then we can continue to talk about why you should take your god damn meds

>>13098288
Eh, still an overreaction though I guess better to err on the side of caution. 37.7 C fever and nausea/stomach pains is probably a stomach flu rather than the kung flu.

>>13098354
she's the type who almost passed out playing drunk ring fit last year. it makes sense why she's so cautious

>>13097165
Oh , the rrat is really there? That's good. Numbers.

>>13098216
Unless it's at least 55k anycolour should just shut its doors.

>>13098458
That was a moment of retardation that doesn't warrant overcautiousness. I almost killed myself with a golf cart and messing with chemicals several times but that hasn't made me paranoid. Though I guess the effects of near-death experiences change depending on the person.

>>13097165
Damn, winning son getting service both in the front and the back. The man can't stop winning.

>>13098216
>nijisanji
Does she have a penis or a vagina?

Also didn't the first wave concert get 44k?

I hate nijisanji and nijien and I come here everyday to laugh aout their numbers and vtubers

>>13098622
Anon, there were 3D debuts from women that had more viewers and SC than men. Hoshikawa, Tomoe, Furen, it goes on. It depends on the vtuber and their popularity.

>>13098216
Any Hololive Streams today that can beat it?

Well Mito better get atleast 40k+ or else she might be subjected to the slippage. Unless if the rabbit decides to do Final fantasy 14 again.

Do idolfags exist foe EOPs? I'm not sure but isn't being idolfag looked down upon by EOPs, they actually encourage more intergender interaction.

>>13098705
Nah. Unless she's gotten to the Gold saucer off stream I don't think we'll be seeing FFXIV outta Pekora today.

>>13098216
Anything that doesn't clear 40k is subject to slippage as long as Pekora or Marine is streaming.

>>13095464
Why would it scare you?

>>13098705
She might stream the postponed Ape Game from yesterday.
Can that get 40k+??

Gura's Jackbox vod is almost reaching 500k views now while Suisei's Mario Party vod is still stagnating. Gura's views per video ratio is almost as good as a popular youtuber making one video per week, heck I would say even better.

>>13098845
It's a retro game, at most it will get 30k at best. Also I don't think she got her playstation fixed yet.

>>13098765
I'm one so they definitely do.

>>13098886
Bots just like her subs.

>>13098927
Can I ask you why you're like that? I mean, it's weird seeing this behavior outside of any East Asian countries.

>>13098765
Idolfags are also looked down by JOPs, but here we are.

>>13098886
She better be with that amount of subs. The only thing she has going for her is her sub count and decent enough vod views.

>>13098765
It's not idolfag for EOP. It's goslings

>>13098974
What’s there to understand, he supports his oshi in her goals to become a better singer/dancer/entertainer.

>its the gura vs suisei EN shizo timeloop again

>>13098974
idolfag != purityfag/unicorn

>>13095296
Alright /num/fags, what're anons analyses of my oshi

>>13098886
>Gura's Jackbox vod is almost reaching 500k views now while Suisei's Mario Party vod is still stagnating. Gura's views per video ratio is almost as good as a popular youtuber making one video per week, heck I would say even better.

>>13098886
SUSAN IS CULLING HOLOJP VOD!!!

>>13099166
you 100 percent love her anon.

>>13099080
Don’t forget her music rta, memberships, fan art, karaokes, clip-ability, voice, animations…

>>13099166
She needs to start doing GFE, her SC game isn't great. She's only gotten $26,075 this month.

>>13099320
>GFE
isn't for everyone, you don't just "start doing GFE".
Also Miko is already implied GFE.

>>13099307
All of which, don't matter. I'm sorry anon, you just have to admit they don't matter.

>>13097165
Red Holos collab?

>>13099356
Saying you can pretend she's you GF, go on pretend dates, and saying you don't need other women in your life when she's drunk isn't the GFE.

>>13099307
Almost all holojp has her beaten in animation count

>>13098216
>>13098268
An easy 20k.

>>13097165
Son is pretty much the safest male to collab with in holo.

>>13099364
> Enter /#/ thread.
> Nu-Numbers don't matter!

>>13099416
Also the guy never get heat unlike the tt guys.

>>13099402
No one said she has to be GFE.

>>13099424
He said the content doesn't matter only the numbers.

>>13099525
She needs to up her SC game.

>>13099166
Needs to impregnate Pekora if she wants to be the #1 Holo.

>>13099307
music? one original
fan art? art fags get out, it doesn't matter
karaokes? a once a month thing at most. decent numbers yes, but not the orgasm chumbuds clamour about.
voice? come on anon.. really that's how low you have to go?
I will give you clipability and membership(which we don't have an exact count of but shoudl assume is decent), but then again with her sub count if she didn't have those she should be even more ashamed of herself then she already is.

>>13099604
I thought Marine gets the most tag in danbooru or something.

>>13099307
NTA but
>voice
has nothing to do with numbers.

>>13098886
wow how did a vtuber that 3 times subs of suisei has more vod views ? I can't believe it.

Anyone else severely disappointed by Ceres Fauna's performance? She barely streams and she's a SClet. She had the world in her hand and didn't care, I feel sadness and it is a dismal hope but I would like her to pull herself up and be something.

>>13098216
>mito's free part concert
is it on mito channel or nijisanji main?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzkeE2pC5_M
not up to date but relevant

>>13098216
Anyone who says it will take gold is falseflagging and setting up grudgeposts.

>>13099766
Green lamy they said, she csnt even become green kiara at this point

>>13099766
I know, it's a shame and I'm starting to resent her on some level. At least stream. She has zero fucking sponsorships.

>>13099766
no, she's not my oshi

>>13099781
Nijisanji main, there is a preshow with Lize happening right now. It is struggling to reach 7k, meanwhile Kuzuha’s pre-show had over 30k viewers. I doubt this one will be today’s winner.

>>13099823
I don't really watch Niji but It's THE Mito right? It can't be as bad as Panda's birthday plus new outfit now can it?

>>13099781
Come on anon, it's Nijisanji, of course it's on the main channel.

>>13099856
>main
Something something trickle down to smaller livers something.

>>13099766
More break days then streams this month. If you don't put in the work you can't expect a reward can you...

>>13099893
Yeah, it trickle down into Niji main channel

>>13099766
Her last two gaming streams reached 5-digits CCV. She's doing well as a streamer.
None of the Council milks their viewers so far. HR team filtered the materialistic applicants so hard that Council is full of money haters.

Is screenshots also illegal in Mito's concert?

Top 2 nijifemales not even getting 10k.
Manji-

>>13099916
I know. It is such a shame, all her buffs are wasted and she doesn't even care. Her fans don't either. I wish someone would push her to excellence.
>>13099845
She isn't mine either but this is a numbers thread and she does fucking nothing. At least Bae gets sponsorships, endears herself to a new market, and Sana can help produce merch while being good on SCs. Ceres is the biggest failure of the council when you take everything together. If she streamed we could have an argument about her value by filling up time but she doesn't.

>>13099999
I think so.

>>13100005
Toya is there too, for a short time though.

>>13099963
A sorta high CCV doesn't matter if you stream weekly.
>money haters
And that's the problem. You need people to earn. Cover isn't a charity. Fauna generates little revenue, a model like that and a position like that could have 100s of people better at making money.
>muh ASMR
She doesn't do it often and she's not great.

>>13100051
kek, makes me laugh every time

>>13100051
never gets old

>>13100136
Unironically irys could have done better in that live2d

>>13100136
Fallenshadow I know your debut got postponed but don’t take it out on Fauna.

>>13100189
She has 209,600円 for this current stream. Higher than usual for her. I don't know what's up

>>13100250
SC reading with SCs open. She has gachis too.
>>13100238
Fallen is a friend of Fauna now.

>>13100296
She always has it open. She never closes them. She usually gets about 150,000 max on regular streams like this

>>13100296
>Fallen is a friend of Fauna now
Cmon fallen..

>>13100296
Really? they made up?
Maybe she saw how Panda can still be friends/lover of Kronii despite not being seal anymore

>>13100296
HR Monitor is an SC buff.

>>13100136
If Cover is so desperate for some extra SC revenue, they'd have told Council to open SC during their SC reading streams. The fact that they haven't shown that they don't care about those SC that much, and they picked Council members (or Fauna in particular) for other qualities than SC farming

>>13100348
>Kronii's old mates love her
>Bae's old mates love her
>Rosemi's old mates unpersoned her and one even hides tweets from a vtuber who brought her up
Is it dick sucking to get good on holomems side or was Rosemi that hated?

>>13100413
Well, for one, neither Kronii nor Bae (not even Fauna) dumped their friends after getting L2D and a bunch of support to jump onto bigger ship

>>13096711
They dont call it getting a big break for nothing. Theres usually that one pivotal moment that changes everthing. But luck is often indistinguishable from skill.

>>13100378
>Kronii
Good voice and streaming potential. Gachikoi magnet and she knows how to manipulate them. Works well with Myth.
>Sana
Professional artist and good at getting SCs while not spoiling the collab broth. Works well with Myth.
>Bae
Can shill well and is a bring home the bread 9 to 5 streamer, consistent and reliable
>Mumei
Can kinda sing and had numbers; always clipable and has a laundry list of 6 figure clips. Seems good in collabs with her mates and Myth.
>Fauna
Can't sing, can't get SCs, barely streams, annoying voice, has no clipable moments, barely exists in collabs, and doesn't do promotions. She brings fucking nothing.

>>13099802
Which one that will be next HoloID3

>>13096711
It might sound rude to the legacy, but if you watch the five heavenly king's old videos(probably beside luna), their streaming skills don't hold candle compared to mid tier niji or holos now. They were just at the right place at the right time.

>>13100462
What kind of "dumping their friends" did Rosemi do?

>>13100296
I think all Myth and Irys have established their own gachi culture, despite having low SC, Gura, Ina and Ame still can let their fans go crazy when needed. Kronii might be the first in Council to establish her gachi culture, but she seems debuffing it, but I believe her ability is still there. Still waiting for Bae because she might be my most anticipated one in Council.

>>13100587
Was that supposed to be a rhetorical question, or are you not aware of Rosemi - Tsunderia little drama?

>>13100525
Fauna has 1.6k clips using her tag.

>>13100675
>but she seems debuffing it
She literally has relationship points with members which they earn as a collective. It's gonna be uncontrollably powerful if she sticks with it.

>>13100675
Kronii has huge potential, she just needs to get her fucking head straight.

Did Mito's pre-concert hype stream reached 10k?

>>13100675
Does Bae have prechat on? I know she never turns off SC though. Maybe she will get more SCs if she keeps sticking with the Koreans.

>>13100764
>why isn't the appetizer a full meal
Her concert will do well. I know it's early but I don't think I will be wrong if I declare her win now.

>>13100734
I believe having a visual symbol for fans also help with establishing gachis when you don't go hard on it. Deadbeats, chicken employees, shrimps, takodachis, all create strong relationships.

>>13100764
No.

Starting, and no social distancing.

>>13099766
>Ceres Fauna's
are there more than 1 Fauna vtuber that i am not aware off? feels like you could just say Fauna or Ceres

>>13100882
That movie theater is packed. I guess that's why no one watched the pre show.

>>13100882
Why are there gaps in the middle then

>>13100917
2473 capacity, smaller than Watame, Suisei, and Kuzuha.

>>13097165
well Bae doesn't seem to have many gachis and this is what she wants. Fucking based, joining holo and collabing with her oshi

>>13100882
Are they allowed to cheer or are they still doing the "stand silently, don't yell or get excited" stupidity over there

>>13100995
They should be allowed to cheer now, but we'll see.

>>13100882
Anon is this a legal screenshot? You're gonna get arrested by the niji police.

I still don't get the rationale of having the sololive broadcasted on the main channel instead of the livers own. It's not a company event, it's Mito's. Probably just Nijisanji culture at this point I guess.

think holofes would have a live audience this year?

>>13101058
>live audience
Yes
>this year
No

>>13100944
are they seating 2434

>>13100882
>Empty seats
>less than 10k on preview
Holy shit, Manjisanji is fucking real!!!!

>>13101020
I mean, even Kuzuha's birthday was on Niji's channel, just sayin ...

>15k
>only Chii-chan is streaming
I hoping they're breaking records in digital ticket sales because otherwise this is disgraceful

>>13101095
The question is whether or not it's a smart thing to do so.

>>13101020
It's just one of the management tactics to undermine their livers' influence. The new wave starts bitching? Well, it's time to debut more waves.

17k now
>>13101084
Yes that's why you can see empty seats in the middle kek.

>>13097216
I guess that's because when YT took measures against bots in 2020's december, Niji channels were fine while majority Holo channels experienced 20-40% loss of average viewers. Holokeks usually avoid calling these YT measures by their real name and just call them "Youtube update" or "Youtube culling viewers".

Another attempt at ape escape 3 for the bunny.

>>13101164
Yep. Nijisanji is trying to replicate Vinnie Mac's tactic in WWE. Trying to make the brand the selling point instead of the talent. Funny enough, it's also causing them the same problems too which is the inability to create new breakout stars.

>>13101204
>Niji channels were fine while majority Holo channels experienced 20-40% loss of average viewers
kek

So Pekora trying the monkey game again today, I guess she fixed her ps3 somehow.

Have I been missing anything but why is everyone suddenly hating Fauna? She seems like the least to be caught up in some controversy?

>>13101299
>everyone

>>13101299
One (1) retard

>>13101299
It's one/two schizos that have oddly decided to take up residence in the numbers thread of all places.

>>13101299
Eh, just some anons feeling that she's underperforming. And the general EN schizos of course.

>>13101280
>replying to obvious bait
this thread is hopeless

>>13101299
Just fallenshadow being off her meds again. Also, because Holo vs Holo is the only way to get (you)s currently with Nijisanji getting mogged almost everyday and VShoujo still not strong enough to replace them as bait.

>>13101299
It's fallenschizo being schizo again

>>13100413
>Rosemi's old mates unpersoned her
I hope I'm not the only one who noticed Miori (Tsunderia) freaking out on twitter when Bae was debuting saying stuff like. RAT QUEEN, BEST RAT, MY RAT QUEEN, CUTEST RAT!!!! She was obviously taking shots at another rat vtuber she used to know while showing support for her former genmate.

>>13100587
TLDR after getting accepted for tsunderia and getting a live 2d and music video Rosemi proceeded to stream more on her indie channel than her tsunderia channel and before graduating less than three months after getting in.

Alright, can we pretend no one ever made the claim the free part of Mito's concert would be a gold medalist? I mean it's doubtful she'll get 25k.

So that's how the live audience can see the AR part, they use two screens. Anyway 20k now, will be hard to get gold especially if Pekora will stream later.

>>13101400
free part is only 30 minutes right ?

>>13101400
25k has won gold on slower days. What does the lineup look like for today?

>>13101428
20 only I think, Kuzuha’s was 17 or 18 minutes

>>13101400
No wonder her smile is so bright in this thumbnail

But can this get gold tho? Is this game even good? first time i ever saw it

>>13101430
really slow in holo side, only subaru and pekora are the big ones. Unless if Miko decides to snipe some slot.

>>13101430
Subaru something stream, Haachama schizo stream, and Pekora Ape Escape. Unfortunately Rushia had to postponed her offcollab with Marine stream.

>>13101428
I think so. Assuming that Iinchou doesn't get more than 25k then Watame actually mogged her.

>>13101430
Chammer's announcement stream, Pekora with her usual 20k+ most likely and Subaru

>>13101280
English, motherfucker. Do you speak it?
You clearly can't read or simply didn't read my post.
Also, it's hilarious how this holokek tried really hard to select only those vtubers who lost viewers and avoided a fuck ton of others, who gained. Absolute state of /#/ - holokeks spamming cope and seethe about actual facts.

>>13101430
You have Peko and Shuba. Later on will be the Haacahama Announcement

>>13101476
Miko's out today so she's definitely not sniping. Probably.

>>13101020
>>13101164
that makes no sense whatsoever, even more when those concerts are paid and only the free part is on the channel.

>>13101470
Pekora's on a hot streak right now. As long as it isn't a shill stream, 30k is a good bet for her.

>>13101455
Kuzuha started early (i forgot the time but if it was scheduled at 4pm then he started around 3:48pm)
I was tracking down his numbers so i know

>>13101280
Now post the one from hololive where there's also a lot of red for holo yoy

>>13101470
Can it get gold, yes unless there is something breaking 35-40k. I haven't played it but there seem to be some clamouring that it's a nice retro game so might pull some people just because of the novelty.

>>13101504
>>13101550
(You)
You're welcome, now get out

>>13101430
Well, I haven't seen it past 20k. Could a 19.9k stream take a day?

>>13101504
This was already posted before idiot. I guess Nijis has been losing so hard for you to seethe this hard.

>>13101583
I think the lowest gold we have so far recently is 26k with that awful Pekora Mario Kart game. What is the lowest gold so far?

Does subaru have a personal buff game he can pull out? She could actually go for the kill and take the gold if she want.

>>13101583
I don't think it's possible to get gold under 20k. hell, I can confidently say you need at least 24k on a really bad day to even get it.

>>13101524
Yeah but 15 of those minutes where just watching people sit down beofre it actually started. i was also tracking down his numbers

>>13101651
Totsu sausage legend stream.

>>13101485
>Watame actually mogged her.
Deservedly so.
I haven't heard anything in Mito's free part yet that sounds good. I managed to ignore King's shitty voice in his live but do you need to be Japanese to understand Mito's songs too?

>>13101651
If she does anything remotely related to Oozora police expect it to win the day.

>>13101580
>>13101550
>Now post the one from hololive where there's also a lot of red for holo yoy
You still didn't learn English to read my original post. You'll only be allowed to ask me something after you understand that post.
And I am not a creator of these pathetic tables. Those are made by a holokeks, who, again, tried really hard to select only those numbers they want to see. There are a plenty of monthly summaries for average or median Holo viewers in archive. Just look at one of them and see for yourself.

It peaked at 21,193
This will probably not win but it's at least top 5 material. Maybe.

>>13101651
Peko is excited to play that ape game, Subaru won't dare steal the gold.

Probably won't get gold today. Also it's a bit boring....

>>13101586
Nothing substantial in your post anon. As expected from holokek.

>>13101738
*20,193

>out for a month
>endurance stream for 11+ hours when back
Pretty sure this is Sana's way to deflect criticism that she is not pulling her weight. Not a bad strategy I guess.

>>13101738
Time for Anycolour to shut its doors, disgraceful display.

>Mito getting pathetic number
>nijinigger shitting up the thread
ah yes the eternal seethe

>>13101793
No one thought she'd get more than 20k. The fact that it was only 20k proves that a ton of people bought tickets to see it.

>>13101841
>muh more real tickets
Holy cope

>>13090771
I dunno a on, looks to me like everyone, including Nijisanji, dropped in December, which is whe. The new spam-view Culler update was pushed out by YouTube.

>>13101727
I'm not the anon who made the table but weren't the one in the tables the highest median of NijiJPGirls?
>>13101763
Again, not this anon but why are you guys seething
>>13101775
Well i guess i can't blame you if there are people shitting on the concert.
I didn't watch it, but isn't Mito the biggest NijiGirl? How can she get only 21k?

And sony chose to support Mito over Kuzuha

>>13101841
keep coping i love it

>>13101841
So nobody bought Kuzuha's sololive ticket? Poor king....

>>13101841
And after the nijiseethe comes the nijicope

>>13101888
>Sony chose to support nijisanji
FTFY

>>13101841
Cope

>>13101841
I wish you guys also realized this when Suisei and Watame had concerts.
I only see nijifags trying so hard to shit on them when the concert is ongoing

>>13101871
>inb4 this is a graph made by Holokeks and all the data there is false go do your archive reps and find some imaginary graph where Holos have a steep recline

>>13101430
>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - OCTOBER 2021
>8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
>20) Subaru (Hololive) - 26.4k - Minecraft
>29) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.8k - Minecraft

>>13101871
Which is exactly the point made in >>13101280, to counter the assertion that "Niji channels were fine while majority Holo channels experienced 20-40% loss of average viewers"

>>13101871
But Niji drop is smaller then some of it's other regular drops, while Holo's drop is more than double of Holo's second biggest drop.

>>13101770
I mean, that's one aspect she can control herself, so ...

Today is for the king

>>13101940
Yes, I'm just linking the easily digestible graph for any wanderers who may be swayed by the obvious schizo/shitposter that may or may not be a nijikek.

>>13101913
>sony chose to lose money

>>13101932
Do it if you want. Make your own graph.

>>13101985
This does not slip!

>>12574733
>>12519373

>>13101932
Cope, why can't you just admit they're reclining as well.
Holos got an incline due to the Sportsfest and if you have a proper functional brain, you'll see so many Hololive getting 10k above.

>See something that can be used against Holos
Nijifags consider it FACTS
>See something that can be used against Nijis
Nijifags considers it retarded and believes Holofags are lying

>>13101660
>>13101615

See this for Oct, this is all the sub-30k gold for that month, including that MK stream >>13101938

>>13101985
if he streamed splatoon its guaranteed 30k

>>13102036
>inb4
Comprehension reps, anonchama.

>>13101985
What will he stream?
>APEX with major collabs?
Then yeah possible
>Solo APEX?
Nah

>>13101877
It wasn’t bad, her album is actually pretty good, and the songs in free part were quite nostalgic too. New outfit too. Mito is clearly not the best singer but nobody expected anything extraordinary. If I have to explain low numbers, it’s probably because Mito is not exactly known for her singing and people watch her for different reasons. You can argue that Kuzuha isn’t either but he has a very different audience.

Speaking of Nijisanji and drop, here is that chart, but without HoloEN and HoloJP.

Asked Nijisanji fans to try to help explain the current trend, is there anything in particular happenning that could explain?
Anon suggestion Splatoon tournament but one would assume that would be a buff.

>Sana streams for 11:30 hours
>averages 4k views with a peak of 5.1k
>124k viewers for VOD
Goddamn, how many people are ten minute tourist?

>>13101913
Sony Music last investment was in 2020 and they hold a minority share. Mito is only with Sony Music as a label, much like other nijisanji like Kuzuha, Trinity and others are on different jp labels.
It's stupid anyway because the labels don't care about the talent, otherwise they would pick Chima, Melissa and others, but popularity.

>>13101888
Mito didn't turn into a numberlet until recently and Kuzuha wasn't the god power he is now.

Labels steal anyways.

>>13102195
Hi here, newfag, enjoy your stay and make yourself comfortable.

>>13102223
>the labels don't care about the talent, ... but popularity
Well yeah, no shit. If you're already known within the industry, it doesn't matter if you're super talented. The numbers speak louder than your skills, they're trying to maximize sales after all.

>>13102195
If you watch literal 2views, the live viewer count does not register a viewer until a certain amount of time. People were typing in chat while the live viewer count was zero so I guess some watchers don't get registered as a live viewer but still gets included in VOD count.

Why are you guys falling for it

Why am i falling for it too!
Damn Kronii i miss you too

>>13102303
A...anon!? I think you're in the wrong thread. Kronii thread is at the bottom of the catalogue, this is the numbers thread.

>>13102303
>>13102326
Yep sorry my bad, i was so excited to see Kronii's tweet saying she misses us kronies

>>13102303
Kroniischizo, I know your Oshi isn't streaming so you can't send her an angry SC, but it appears you've replied in the wrong thread.

really good for numberfags that pekora didnt choose the idol route where mito, aqua and recently kuzuha are heading. well, there is the 3rd gen live but she's just participating there and her streaming pace isnt slowing down

>>13102303
Get your cringy ass from this thread!

>>13102223
I really don't trust music labels. Especially SME knowing what they did to Kaguya Luna. I mean, we shouldn't really be surprised since if SME could screw with Michael fucking Jackson of all people than what hope does any Chuuba have? Which is why I think it's smart that cover started to expand their discography and is starting to become it's own label instead of depending on an outside company. If they pull it off then they basically have control instead of having to negotiate it with someone else.

This thread got extremely bad once Mito comically underperformed. Why?

>>13102358
She chose both

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpHzXSWg8Fw

>>13102409
It didn’t, that’s a normal state.

>>13102377
didn't they pull that off already with Bloom? they became their own music label and their talents' original songs are under their label?

>>13102370
>>13102353
I said i'm sorry lol, I'm just so happy i accidentally sent it here

>>13102358
>>13102408
She also considers taking dance lessons for fun after the live. How can one hikki rabbit have that much energy and autism to do those is beyond everyone.

>>13102457
You don't need to apologize. All you have to do is to get your ass from this thread and dive right into appropriate thread.

>>13102471
Shes the choosen one

>>13102409
Nijisisters angrily coping cause she mist likely wont get gold today

>>13095296
>China lowest score on Italian food
They are so salty pasta is better than noodles its hilarious

>>13102169
>NijiEN is literally their worst performing branch
HOLY KEK!!!!

>>13102195
>22 minutes per view
That's good actually

>>13102572
NijiID... NijiKR...

>>13102452
BLOOM was a pretty ambitious endeavor since there was no record label involved. An entire concert with nothing but original songs. It was amazing too. I thought it blew the doors off of Holofes. I just wish it had a live audience. Man was it great though.

>>13102452
I mean they have a foot in the door. It'll take more than one (albeit successful) concert before we can call it a true success

>>13102377
Most holomem use NexTone for music stuff

>>13102638
Well, two successes now with Suisei. It's coming along, all things considered. Has Watame released an album with all her originals yet?

>>13102452
They are going that way, specially after Moona confirming they now have a budget for orisongs

Any update from Oricon anon?

>>13102620
fucking blue clapper man. I love that song. still felt blueballed yesterday by Lamy. can't believe she chose secret base instead of blue clapper.

>>13096616
>10/04/2020 101,868 Noel Outfit reveal
2021?

>>13100000
>>13099999

>>13102409
The female vtuber at nijisanji can't outperform kuzuha

>Sasaki 22k
>What,jpg
>Kuzuha in discord
ILLEGAL

>>13096616
PPTrio mogging the shit out of everyone to get the first 100k+ vtuber streams 3 weeks in a row was the fucking best, I miss those days of yonkisei unity so much

>>13103295
Higher numbers than her outfit reveal + birthday. Kek. Manjisanji is not a meme.

>>13103295
>Deploy kuzuha on every niji stream to boost the number
Trust the plan

>>13103304
>pptrio
>yonkisei unity
I think I understand what you're going for but that's still amusing.

>>13103436
the kuzuha atlas only gets bigger

https://youtu.be/PrnIOGFWyf4
Subaru playing smash with viewers. She should get at least 15k. However, she may get more considering only Matsuri and Sora will be streaming at the same time

>>13102620
Cover is building a pretty good catalogue of original songs. Multiple Holos have enough to do their own concerts never one the entire company. There were growing pains but doing without the assistance of a major label forced them to build their own competencies and now of course they keep the money in house. Ironically focusing on music/concerts hurts your numbers in the short term, though it can help in the long term and obviously is a huge cash cow

I woke up with the weirdest thought today
Youtube recommended me a Mel clip which I'd never watch but it's still there which means people with the same interest as me is watching that, but that's beside the point. It got me thinking,
Can you numberfags prove if being "an unironic whore", or "coomerbait", or "unapologetic very lewd", pays off? In the short or long term?

>>13103692
I'll go with 20k-25k considering her yakuza floor

>>13103692
Last time Nenechi got around 15k peak if I'm not wrong

>>13095296
>separate categories for china, hong kong, and taiwann
You love to see it

>>13103304
I get it... because pptrio killed yonkisei. And then pptrio died. At least Kanata and Watame are doing well on their own.

>>13103722
Can't give numbers but I have to assume it is if only in the short term. Why else would every indie,VShoujo and even Niji and Holo go that route if it didn't? Kronii and Marine are good examples in Holo while Finana, despite being the most vulgar NijiEN outpaces her branchmates like Pomu (who seems to be starting.to go that route now too). Issue becomes if that's really the only thing you can offer because it's not really a viable long term strategy.

>>13103295
Boosted sasaki then opens his own stream

>>13103866
>Kronii
>"an unironic whore", or "coomerbait", or "unapologetic very lewd"
You must be kidding. While I wouldn't say she never does anything that may be construed as that she's far from being the one I'd think of as a "good example". For fucks sake Gura is probably a better example in that she intentionally teases her viewers, mostly in member streams. Kiara is the one who acts the most vulgar in HoloEN.

>>13103866
>Kronii
talk about a dumb post, I bet not even her clips would imply that

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1460564110806949891
Saturday's ticket sold out but Friday hasn't yet. It fits the number trend where everyone's numbers tend to be on the lower end side.

>>13103722
>Can you numberfags prove if being "an unironic whore", or "coomerbait", or "unapologetic very lewd", pays off? In the short or long term?
Being sexually overt without being excessively promiscuous can be a buff, one that Marine uses to great success.

The secret seems to be to project the message
>I could be lewd with you
without also passing
>I could be lewd with anyone and everyone

It's a fine line

Still Still Stellar sold 359 Physical Albums last week, 215 Digital Albums.
Total: 20634 Physical, 7745 Digital.
1∞ Color sold 349 Physical Albums last week.
Total: 1785 Physical
Sunny!! (Pmaru-sama) sold 181 Physical Albums last week.
Total: 21145 Physical

Three things

1) This is 100% I-LL-E-G-AL
2) Today is gearing up to be a slow enough day for a 30k+ stream to be able to win the day
3) I understand that a solo concert free part should not get many views (on the assumption the paying patrons will be at the paid event) but I think 20k was a little bit on the small side

>>13104051
Is it possible for Suisei to catch PMaru before the end of the year or this was a one off?

No trend numbers for mito live?

Are they viewbotting her? Her chat is so slow like theres only 5-6 people chatting

>>13103866
I was thinking like there could be a way to get some linear regression or other numeric tool to find the + or - EV by applying some sort of "lewdness" variable to their curve

>>13103965
>>13104009
I mean the guy did talk about coomerbait and although I agree that Kronii doesn't act vulgar or whorish, that goddamn design and voice is just absolute SSSSEEEEEXXXXX. Kroniies are basically the best examples of Takeshis evolving into Goslings.

PSSSSSSSST
>HEY NUMBERFAGS!
COMBAT THIS!

PekGura, combining Gura western virality and Pekora work ethics and consistency.
>PROTIP: you can't

Her hair is unbraided to limit her power a little

>>13104177
Apex streams’ chats are always slow, especially on Twitch and in collabs.

>>13104285
Add bilingual skills and you have the perfect life form.

>>13104017
oh yeah i forgot about that, how long did it take for the saturday tickets to sold out anyway?

>>13096616
i'm proud in saying i'm not one of those numbers who watched bitch graduation stream

>>13104225
The guy is talking about an active decision, not a passive buff. Kronii doesn't usually actively go for the coomerbait angle. I'd argue that she doesn't fit the category being presented here.

>>13104145
26.4k

>>13097896
>based

>>13104017
friday is a slow day in general

Subaru surely inclined lately. Depending on how long she can hold on to her fights she will break 20k

>>13104310
sounds like a cope lmao

>>13104465
Can she beat Mito's free part of the Concert?

>>13104465
not really that recent, she's inclined ever since the subaru duck meme. she's definitely made gen2 one of the strongest gens, if only they streamed more...

>>13104560
>Can she beat Mito's free part of the Concert?
She's already got 20k but the peaks are too short so live-ranking may miss it if she doesn't hold for some time

>>13104575
>not really that recent
Recent in the span of the existence of Gen 2

>>13104339
Yeah, but then it wouldn't be Gura or Pekora. It'd just be Kiara pretending to be Gura pretending to be Pekora.

>>13104575
Ayame...
>Could get Fubuki or Korone numbers if she streams more
Aqua...
>fuckin declined in streams but atleast now the main face of holo sponsorship
Choco
>she's atleast hanging on and have the ShubaLunaChoco Trio
Shion
>not even shark cunny can beat this one's laziness/depression?

>>13104611
we always have holostats anyway

>>13104560
Maybe? Subaru at this point should be considered a high tier Holo. Someone who can get 10k almost on the reg and get roughly 20k from time to time. She's not Pekora or Marine but she's definitely above the Mios and even Kanata's of Hololive.

>>13104560
>Can she beat Mito's free part of the Concert?
She just did.

Subaru is something else, she provides the PERFECT
>tomboy gaming girlfriend
experience without even going for that, it's just her natural enthusiasm towards the game.

>>13104741
https://files.catbox.moe/4uxc1q.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/az59zt.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/p59n49.mp4
Subaru is the perfect GFE for people who want a normie gf that happens to enjoy games.

>>13104741
god I want to fuck Subaru so hard

Bad numbers except for Leos

>>13104408
Thanks, missed the tweet because it fell off so quickly.

>>13104741
Nijisanji embarassing fucking company

>>13104810
Lain...
what the fuck happened

>>13104810
>Lain...
Seriously, if you're an aspiring female vtuber who has any form of skill, is there any reason at all why you'd pick going to Nijisanji over Holo? Unless you're a fujo or yumejo and even then you'd have to deal with the autism of your fellow Fujos.

>>13104736
>should be considered
Her numbers are there already. There is a
>PekoMarineKuzuha tier
of having a consistent presence in the 25k zone, then there is the top tier.

>>13104741
8k less than Watame free section

>>13104938
>Lain
>who has any form of skill
Isn't the biggest criticism towards her the fact she lacks any form of charm, talent and skill?

>>13104938
You can flirt with men and boost them up

>>13104940
gura...
sorry couldnt help it

>>13105002
S-she has VOD views!

>>13104938
They can't get into Holo.
>>13104984
kek you win.

>>13104810
I thought anons said Leos is not doing good?

>>13104938
Considering the constant enjou that is part of the fanbase's culture at this point and the low return, unless you were a hardcore Nijifan or detested the restrictions that Cover/Hololive puts on you there's no real reason unless you're rejected by Hololive. There's something to be said about not wanting to be in Holo due to the culture around that but it's really the only reasonable thing I can think of.
>>13105002
Here, let's get the EN schizo posting over with:
OMG GURA FUCKING SUCKS SHE SHOULD GRADUATE ALONG WITH THE REST OF HOLOEN THE USELESS FUCKS.

>>13104938
I mean, it's not like Holo pushes down waves as consistently as Nijisanji

Matsuri surely is doing well in this karaoke. Strongest numbers for hers in quite a while.

She took a brief leave of absence 3 days ago (I hadn't even noticed kek) and returned now, is this a return buff?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruC8uatmxDI
Can we take a second to appreciate Matsuri is getting 7k on her utawaku? That's not only way above her median, but also the most she's gotten for a singing stream in months.

>>13105052
>restrictions
The "restriction" is pretty normal though? And even if there is "restriction", the benefits far outweighs it.

Makes me wonder how entertaining an "x country has talent' style audition for Hololive would be in Japan. Or maybe something like old school American idol?.

>>13104938
>Nijisanji over Holo
you're saying as if getting into Hololive is an easy task. The requirement for entry is gonna get higher and higher. Didn't Subaru say that for gen 5 each spot was 1/2000?

>>13105113
Gen 5 has had a ton of breathing room to establish themselves after a rocky start. They might all reach a million before JP6 debuts. You can’t really ask for more as a talent

>>13105052
You're stealing his job Anon...
Also I love how that schizo that was (pretending to be) a Nijikek stfu as soon as the graph that showed everyone dropped during December got linked.
Yea, Gura's November is gonna be bad, just like her April was pretty terrible due to MH. Ah well, sometimes playing a game you enjoy > numbers, especially with Gura. Her numbers will reflect her lack of care wrt big numbers for the month, unless she gets hooked on MC again or something.

>>13105131
Nope

>>13105149
>Makes me wonder how entertaining an "x country has talent' style audition for Hololive would be in Japan. Or maybe something like old school American idol?.
Nips don't roll that way (for the most part)

Their idol "ascension" process is more similar to the american sports ascension process
>junior varsity idol
>school idol
>town idol
>city idol
>regional idol
>national idol

>>13105127
Matsuri gets decent views if she's not playing apex or collabing with outsiders.

>>13105157
Yes but Hololive doesn't seem to want to push for more waves unlike Nijisanji who are happy to saturate the fuck out of the market

>>13105138
I agree, which is why I said you'd have to have an autistic dislike for Hololive's culture or obsession with Niji/Niji's culture to not choose Holo over Niji.

>>13105166
You're talking about her DMC4 stint, right?

>>13105155
1:1200 was the number and in that she also said the scouting department told her that she had potential because she was a bit weird and was pretty enthusiastic about the stuff she did.

>>13105131
>>13105127
Matsuri basically spent months doing everything possible to tank her numbers. She won’t rebound overnight but if she returns to the content they made her popular and actually interacts with her coworkers instead of say playing Apex for hundreds of hours or collabing with Nijis there’s no reason she can’t rejoin the mid ranks

>>13105157
Hololive is only hiring experienced hags in their JP branch its kinda annoying we won't have bright faced young talents (unless its Nene)

>>13105215
Nijisanji didn’t have a wave for a year and you know it very well.

>>13105224
DMC4 and probably trying to finish Metroid iirc, both which are unfortunately bad for numbers.

>>13105216
Holo culture is bad but Nijisanji has a different style of bad, Hololive fanbase became baffled when nijisanji fans started harassing Chigusa over singing the nijisanji song because they literally cheer when a newbie holo does the same.

>>13105215
Push obviously not. But it seems the natural progression for some successful Holos is their schedule starts to get crammed with obligations and their stream hours suffer (or their health). That seems like a good time to add some fresh faces.

>>13105246
Yeah because they had to spam waves in the EN market. Wave is on it's way.

>>13105246
If you're talking exclusively about JP sure, but they are still pushing waves on their other branches pretty consistently.

>>13105245
I wish, the only hag in gen 5 is botan

>>13105230
I swear, we keep having these kinds of posts about being surprised that Matsuri can still get these numbers whenever she's not doing apex or collabs with non-holos. I hope its just from newfags and not people that are trying to bait in one way or another.

>>13105155
1:1200. So you basically have 6000 applicants vying for 5 spots. This was also prior to fall 2020 before Hololive really exploded so for all we know we could be looking at double that amount of applicants all trying to get into those same 5 slots. And now that Cover can afford to be picky, they don't even have to settle for those applicants either and can just scout talent outside the Vtubing sphere. I do wonder if more underground and former idols will start applying seeing the success that nenechi has.

>>13105295
Huh? Why were they mad? Even if it’s not a great song SSS is basically wrapped around to being a meme at this point

>>13105245
Nene, Lamy, and Aloe are pretty young anon...

>>13105230
She surely needs to bounce back into shape, here is the dangerous neighbourhood she occupies for the first half of the month

>lower position of all of HoloJP, including being outranked by Mel, Choco, Sora, Aki and Roboco
>being outranked by Bora Nun
>being outranked by Selen
>being adjacent to Elira
>being closedly tailed by Reine

All she needs to do is exactly what you said
>lay off APEX
>return to the box

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1460578394916016129
more music. this time, they are remixing fan-favorite tracks

>>13105377
I have no idea how old is Lamy and where did they even get her from

>>13105295
Anon what part of
>Considering the constant enjou that is part of the fanbase's culture
did you not get. I agree, Nijiculture has it's own bad aspects, and personally I feel like the Holo restrictions aren't all that bad all things considered. The constant boxpushing and policing around Holoculture also definitely helps in that enjou often gets trampled under the masses.

>>13105328
is polka not....?
>>13105329
When she overlaps with stronger Holos with her Karaoke her numbers do suffer sole, but yes she's still able to get these numbers with Non-apex/outsider collabs, especially now that the yabs have had some time to fade from memory.

>>13105344
Former/failed idol or kpop girls seem like a natural fit but Cover seems to like hiring people with niche or oddball interests or demographic appeals. Hard to stand out with generic idol skills. Also let’s them broadened their appeal to sponsors and carve out niche audiences

>>13105230
if she wants to play apex then do it only for tournaments, no practice streams, and streams opening the boxes for that supas

>>13105364
"You fucking leech you haven't proven yourself worthy of the nijisanji name yet, and still you dare sing Nijisanji's signature song? Know your place female bitch"

Basically that

>>13105364
Something something, you have to earn the right to sing it. It's elitist autism from a particular section of the Niji "fanbase". I put it in quotation marks because they may as well be part time antis. I wonder what kind of an effect their presence has had on Niji's numbers as a whole.

>>13104177
He is right >>13104310
This is the usual behavior of viewers during the apex stream.

>>13105364
She had not earned the right to sing VtL yet.
>>13105404
Her yakuza connection.

>>13105393
a-chan needs a 3D model

>>13105364
Because apparently singing the group anthem is srs bzns to them. Japanese "earn it" autismo is next level stupid sometimes.

>>13105472
What would A-chan's 3d numbers be?

>>13105447
>if she wants to play apex then do it only for tournaments
There is an expectation of performance to play on APEX tournaments and things can really go sideways if you tank your team because you didn't practice.

It is the exact reasoning Botan gave for being picky about which tournaments she would accept (if any)
>if it is a tournament where practice is required count me off

You can have lots of fun on APEX by their tournament audience expects a certain level of performance (specially in cross company collabs) which can become very vicious if you are dragging their oshi down.

>>13105417
she's still a cake

>>13105472
Doesn't she already have one by virtue of the fact she's in Hologra?

>>13105393
Cover needs more good mixers. A remix contest night finds some diamond in the rough. Worked for Mori.

>>13105382
That weird Haachama drama hurt her considerably. It’s very rare for interHolo drama to become visible to fans.

>>13105472
A...anon? Have you been living under a rock? https://twitter.com/achan_UGA/status/1323323992326000642

>>13105505
>>13105505
then she needs a proper debut outside of hologra

>>13105245
>only hiring experienced hags
That’s demonstrably false. Cover loves having a young fresh face every generation to be their JK virtual idol like Sora. Mumei is the most recent. JP6 will have a barely 18 chuuba hopefully paired with a manager that wont fuck her over like Aloe

>>13105225
>scouting department told her that she had potential because she was a bit weird and was pretty enthusiastic about the stuff she did.
holy shit, Cover's scouting team is actually god-tier. who would have thunk that a genki normie girl that barely knows about the internet would make a damn good chuuba.

>>13105498
Yea, it must be the fact that she hangs out with Bakatare so much that's got me mixed up, thanks.
>>13105472
Anon...

>>13105404
Lamy's family background screams Yakuza family, and she's the pampered ojou.

>>13105492
69k

>>13105507
Well DJ Tekina/Yuyoyuppe is pretty well known in Vocaloid community

>>13105495
Of course she needs to practice with your team just don't stream your pov

>>13105455
Basically the same effect the niji thread over on jp had that gave people the impression impression that nijifags are all a bunch of elitist bastards

>>13105344
>source:my ass
Anon-chama, Cover failed to hire TWO people to fill in their pre made models. Where are your 6000 applicants then? This only proves that NO ONE wants to work for Cover because they have already outed as a black company who only takes in the cash and doesn't even bother to support their talents or ensure their models/3D are of decent quality.

I'm a Holobro and even I'd agree that working for Niji is a better option because atleast you're not supporting a fucking black company

>>13105537
I said recent JP gens anon, if they were hiring inexperienced bright faced girls then kakages daughter and the other one would have been claimed already.

>>13105545
Part of Subaru’s appeal is as a straight man to the antics around her while still being high energy and charismatic. Which is also why Luna and Choco convincing her bathing and sleeping naked together is totally normal for sure is pretty amusing.

>>13105507
>That weird Haachama drama hurt her considerably.
It didn't, not from the fanbase side. Matsuri and Haachama aren't interacting on a regular basis for what, some 18 months to 2 years now?

I don't recall seeing Matsuri and Haachama hanging out casually or even interacting (outside the 3D lives) since Haachama-Watame and Matsuri-Luna was a thing.

Things went sour for Matsuri with her own fanbase, I don't think anyone from the other girls fanbase even had a second glance her direction, mostly because she's so isolated by herself people only reminds her from her "bandaid" glory days