/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Which vtubers best espouse principles of Communism With Chinese Characteristics such as the ability to own and operate capital as a form of property?

>>1347379
VIRTUAL YOUTUBERS WITH CHINESE CHARACTERISTICS

>>1347459
>>1347441
THIS

>>1347441
bro communism in hundred years, just wait for productive forces

WTF I love communism now?!

snakes with human traits

>>1347441
>Communism With Chinese Characteristics
>such as the ability to own and operate capital as a form of property

I wonder what a 19th political theorist would think of today, when communism is capitalism and capitalism is socialism

>>1347379
Here, a marxist vtuber

>>1347657
based

>>1347657
I knew she was pozzed. Unsubed

>>1347657
>Marxist
You wish.

Want some Chinese food /vt/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qH9Rv962zI

>>1347702
>Based
You wish, lol

>>1347602
If we are at the point of granting that coherence with legacy internationalist communism inherently entails commensurate trade-off on the potency of the Chinese Nation in comparison to Communism With Chinese Characteristics, then what further use is there in discussing it?

Comrade Deng has shown us the way.

>>1347379
Ew

>>1347657
She's a leftist, not a Marxist

>>1347379
are there any Vtubers that are trying to unionize?

>>1349097
Nijisanji did that back in 2018

I have filters to avoid JUDAS in this thread, yet, here we are.

>>1349068
what a sentence to read
social justice cult really threw everyone for a loop by intentionally not naming their ideology

>>1347656
I don't think any serious political scholar would call Chinese Communism Capitalism. The meme that China is a Capitalist state is just something you see on internet forums from mouthbreathers and political ideologues/hacks that write opeds for boomer news blogs like NYT. The state literally owns every single company and all the land in the country. They let it operate as a "market" but ultimately everything is going towards the same party coffers. They very regularly take action to regulate or engage in takeovers of entire companies and industries that run afoul of the party. The billionaires of China are puppets under the servitude of the state, unlike America where the state is a puppet to the billionaires. They're all fucking terrified of Xi and other high ranking party officials and do whatever they can to appease them.

This isn't really commenting on whether their economy and politics is corrupt though, just that it's still firmly state-owned.

>>1349262
State capitalism is not socialism.

>>1349262
Isn't the fact that their are billionaires at all proof that it isn't communism? Theirs still a clear class divide between the rich and the poor and I wouldn't say the workers in any way own the means of production. I wouldn't call it capitalism, nor communism. Probably closer to socialism in spirit.

>>1349262
American pigdogs are puppets to their priesthood, politcos and merchants both bend the knee to the chad media.

>>1349344
You know, something like...
Socialism with Chinese Characteristics...

>>1349344
I don't think regular workers in China own means of production or have any say how economy is managed... So I wouldn't call it socialism

>>1347379
fuck artia and fuck artiafags

>>1349262
It's just the ancient idea mercantilism.

>>1347379
kill you(tube)rself

Chinese government pushed their own vtubers but they were cancelled because of public outcry

>>1349281
State Capitalism isn't really capitalism it's just the state existing while upholding a heavily regulated market economy. By definition that's so damn broad you can't even call it capitalism anymore.

>>1349344
As far as I know China doesn't claim to have a fully Communist economic system, neither did the USSR. They're "transitioning towards communism" by manipulating global markets so they call themselves a Communist State even though they're closer to socialism(and kinda not even truly socialist at the moment). They learned from the death of the USSR due to its economic and political isolation that no state can survive on its own. Since the 1980's they've been heavily entrenching themselves into the global markets and slowly exerting control over large multinational corporations to pursue their ambitions. This is why they build ports and infrastructure in developing countries, to grow their economic influence. This is also what "Chinese billionaires" are for. They exist to be public-facing representatives of the party within economically powerful circles. They engage in cutthroat capitalist tactics and acquisitions to grow their influence and wealth while at the same time exerting China's sphere of influence globally. They're entirely puppets of the state and the moment they try to break free of the leash they're "reeducated" or replaced within their company, with all their wealth relinquished to the party.

>>1349369
Workers in China have a role in the political/economic process, the Communist Party of China is the largest labor union in the world and local chapters of the party regularly hold elections and appoint representatives. That's kinda what "workers owning the means of production" means, not individual workers owning their machines. Of course those elections are probably very corrupt in practice but they have the appearance of worker participation.

>>1347702
>he doesnt know where that specific hashtag screenshot is from
Kiara is unironically a self-hating European who supports Antifa and BLM. I'm very happy and impressed that Kiara hasn't let it leak into her Vtuber persona but there's no changing she's pozzed

>>1349678
Sounds pretty based to me.

>>1349616
ogey zzang


well actually, this is something only a millennial white male could write

>>1349068
LOL

>>1349678
Ok tell me, how does it relate to China and Chinese Vtuberss?

>>1347379
CHINK DETECTED

>>1349751
China is a Leftist country and Kiara expouses a lot of Leftist opinions and ideals outside of her Vtuber persona. Don't be silly anon

>>1347379
Did someone say Communism?
https://youtube.com/channel/UCx1K7Kc_1PUf62Wate5VfDg

Communism outlived fascism and now it will outlive capitalism. The level of sheer coping because of this has been an incredibly amusing ride

>>1349829
>vtuber for 2 years
>only 1k subs
That's so depressing I'm pretty sure you could get more subs than that uploading a 3 second dancing baby gif as your only video. I feel bad for her putting so much effort into a project like that and not being acknowledged.

>>1349829
Based

>>1349821
I see
>>1349616
I think China is just an ethnostate that is using communism to uphold their legitimacy and a means to keep their people united

>>1347379
>ywn hate fuck Artian and cum deep inside her treacherous chinese womb
It's a mixed kind of feel

>>1349865
This is the reality of modern art. Only those with money or luck can make it

>>1349569
You know, that's a pretty good argument.

Maybe call it State Mercantilism?

>>1349896
Should shilled herself more

>>1347577
Yogurt...
Is she ogey?

>>1349911
That would go against her Communist ideals.

>>1349865
>her
It sounds like a dude with a voice changer.

>>1349262
>>1349281
It's only socialism when it fails. If you suddenly churn out the biggest economy in the world, then it's capitalism of some sort.

It always gets to me how many people interchangeably use socialism and communism
Socialism actually is something valid to strive for, communism is not

>>1350341
Yes that is ultimately what happens; the degree to which they prosper is the degree to which they consign marxianism to the dustbin of history.

>>1350377
>Socialism actually is something valid to strive for
As someone living in a former socialist republic: no.

>>1347657
Unironically makes me love my oshi more.
Fuck nazis and fuck trump

>>1349262
Not even USSR was fully socialist they could never own the 100% of means, same situation with China where they allow private property, its not like you can call China capitalist, but also you can't call them socialist.

>>1347657
>Is leftist
>Gimmick is literally being a fast food restaurant owner
This bitch

>>1350459
socialism is not when "the government does stuff" faggot

FUCK FEMINISM

>>1350459
Kinda curious, as I'm half former Yugo, what country? Because while I say socialism, that assumes as well it'd be done well...granted I can't deny that's been one hell of a struggle throughout history

beeg Government =/= socialism

>>1350377
'Socialism' is a vacuous term that has been impoverished by centuries of rhetorical memeweapons all plugging in to the same denominating. All it can ever mean is 'give me power', 'give me the fruits of power', and or 'join me in destroying my rivals in return for fruits of power'. Such is the terminal course of all political speech under popular governance.

>>1350640
Right. It's actually socialism = good smart inherently moral guys = us and capitalism = fascism = evil dumb egoistic guys = them.

>>1350634
Romania

>>1350997
I can understand it then, yeah

>>1350326
He is.

>>1347657
Kiara isn't smart bird. She will believe anything, as long as it is not aimed directly at her.

zhangs keep winning

>>1350556
That's actually the perfect gimmick. She pretends to overwork and abuse her employees in "the usual room" and also acts like a bitch giving them orders and demands. It's all satire to make capitalists look bad. Very based imo.

>>1350956
This but unironically.

>>1350956
True
>>1350392
This is a socialist board you know? Please go back to your containment board if you want to spout DDIQ bluepilled talking points.

>>1351308
I got your bluepill right here.

*unzips*

Socialism is actually great and the only thing better is national socialism

>>1351430
based and xipilled

>>1347657
Floyd the Landlord

>>1350956
this but unironically.