/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

I thought Selen was a god at Apex. 11th place is disappointing. No wonder she's declining.

>>13479216
Still a better player than overhyped Botan who doesn't even have the balls to join any Apex competitions

>>13479216
Is she one of those cases of uh low rank stompers or maybe a class onetricks? It happens in so many cases when a channel making content relating to competitive/matchmaking games.

>>13479393
Botan stomped the last tourney she joined.

>>13479418
>I love making up things that didn't happen

>>13479411
yeah, she's just a pubstomper so if you put her against actual pros she can't do much

>>13479480
we know little schizo

Are these good numbers for a collab of two biggest HoloEN chuubas?

>>13479393
Lmfao, cope and seethe more faggot.
Your Overhyped Selen was an embrassment

what streams are today's contenders for gold?

>>13479609
Noel totsu

>>13479479
Well that's unfortunate, from what I've heard from Selenfags maybe she should focus on selling herself as a comedy content on apex instead of competitive content if that's the case. She should try to be less like Tyler1 and more like Tobias Fate.

>>13479546
56k is a pretty good number, would probably be higher if they hyped it up more in advance though

>>13479609
Noel Totsu on Holo-side
No idea if anything out of left-field like Miamoto Pokemon might happen for NijiJP, so I'm not calling ANYTHING until midnight JST rolls around.

>>13479393

y'know that if botan actually streamed her playing apex in a tournament she would get three times more ccv than selen right? she got 30k watching her fucking battlefield of all things

Why aren't anyone talking about Ethyria numbers anymore?

>>13479787

>>13479770
*Battlefield where she hadn't really done anything in terms of practice and specifically has stated that any tourney that would actually require her to practice is a no-go
Botan is in full-on 'retirement mode', she's never going to be in a serious tourney, as much as I'd like to see that.

>>13478712
what the fuck is the context of this image

>Gooruh was getting stomped by Kronii
>Number barely stable
>Kronii straight up sandbags to the point of asking out loud "Why I'm not dead yet?"
>Numbers go up
You can't make this shit up
Chumbuds are really that salty gamers, the among us collab really shaped chumpedos' personality.

>>13479708
56 what?
I also wanna say I meant two of the biggest cross-gen.

>>13479770
>three times more ccv than selen
Botan only getting 9k for Apex when other holos with less FPS hype have gotten way more? yeah that's par for the course, she's a liar who doesn't have the guts to play Apex because she knows she'll crash and burn

>>13479840
Wave 4 cant come fast enough

>>13479787
Do you WANT to have more midget bashing? We know the 7k ceiling for non-event days is real, and until they can show they can raise that, there really is no point in discussing normal NijiEN numbers. Oddities where one or more livers get better than their average numbers is worth discussing, but day-to-day CCV isn't worth bothering with unless you WANT more shitposting.

>>13479840
fucking midgets

>>13479890
28k + 50% cull correction from Gura + 50% cull correction from Kronii = 56k

wow, one more to the list: botanschizo
if the gen5schizo wasn't enough

Since Vshojo will finally have their own rival on Twitch, with backings of some big youtubers and Twitch vtubers, this might begin the decline period of Vshojo. This is happening especially during the whole doxx thing is icing on the cake. Do you think Vshojo might become more competitive in the future? Right now they are moving at a very laxed pace.

>>13479975
Ah, OK. Makes perfect sense. I am going to use that calculation for everything from now on.

>>13479861
Anon, I was watching the stream at the time and none of what you said was true. My watching feed was steadily growing throughout that whole match.

>>13479975
is this the fabled holocope?

>>13480177
Drama will only make them stronger, the EN fanbase loves drama and will flock to any streamers that have tons of it.

>>13479907
>9k
That's literally more than 99% of VSpo girls and even most actual Apex pros on Twitch.
Only Kuzuha and Aceu can put over 10k on Apex only stream. Hal only if it a tournament.
But even with them, Kuzuha is far from being a Pro and Aceu is kind of like Selen, good on regular streams but on tournaments is a whole different story.

>>13479670
She didn't really help herself by showboating near her debut by pubstomping a bunch of bronze players.
People thought she was pro level and were disappointed to find out she's Diamond level. Doesn't help she got boosted to Masters by partying up with a pro and a pred player this season.

council and IRyS did well to bring chemistry to the EN branch. prior to them, EN feels really dry since the Myth girls don't feel like they have any on-screen chemistry between them

>>13479975
Why must you be this way?
(Actual culls are about 25-35% for EN and 15-20% for JP based off of adblock usage differences between regions. +100% is just shitposting, especially when you 'add' an extra 50% for having a collab partner. Ironic shitposting is still shitposting anon....)

>>13480330
>Why must you be this way?
It should be obvious by now that it's a flaseflagger.

>>13480323
Wrong thread this is about # anon go to global for a proper discussion

>>13480330
Collabs bring together fans of different chuubas and they're respectively culled so adding it together only makes sense

>>13480441
That's not how that works, you inbred moron.

>>13480594
Farming (you)s by being a retard on purpose, a classic.

>>13479216
Kek
Tourney won
Towa : 1
Selen : 0

Are all the real respectable Numberfags asleep?

>Mori sub 5k on jump king
Guess HoloEN still has that 40k cap on normal days

>>13480721
It's early (relatively) for Mori's timeslot too, so yea.

>>13480678
Towa...!
At least she is also incining thanks to Bora's graduation tour. Not big enough but a little better than before, I think.

>>13480721
What is the normal cap before irys and council?

>>13480888
Around 60k

>>13480888
120k

>>13480678
That's actually fair comparison
Both are midget in ccv
Both purple woman
Somehow superior purple woman ended won the tourney, not the shit Reignite kind of tourney as well

>>13480888
still the same. Just look at the ones streaming now, they're all Myth.
>>13480953
before Dec 2020, sure

>>13480678
Festival also won a tourney.

>>13479955
>but day-to-day CCV isn't worth bothering with unless you WANT more shitposting.

Shitposting is the only reason to ever visit 4chan. So yes, I want more tribalfagging and midget bullying.

>>13479840
Why does EN hate JRPGs?

>>13480280
Daruma is the actual king of apex streaming.

>>13481341
Finana was doing superchat reading when I took the screenshot.

>>13481341
Because it's boring watching people play JRPG.

600k in 2 days for gen3 original song
Flop?

>>13479975
What the fuck?

>>13481627
Either an actual schizo or a falseflagger. Take your pick.

Too retarded to take seriously

Nijisanji En has an major cross company collab plan on Saturday that Selen is planning for crab game.

So far they have uto,pikamee,templexx,froot, and restya. Plenty of other top notch jp streamers we probably don't know who in it yet.

>>13458601
>20 holo
>3 niji
I thought nijisan was bouncing? completely floored by holo

>>13481869
>>13481627
Probably nijifags who'll pretend to be a cumbud then proceeds to posts shit like this so people will trash Gura and HoloEN.

>>13482071
>top notch

>>13482071
>major
>top notch

>>13482071
rpr is hal wannabe, numbers consumed him

>>13479975
This cope is pretty bad, anon.

>>13482071
Damn, they couldn't even get the top vshojo to join.

>>13482071
>top notch

>>13480196
>>13480234
>>13480330
>>13481627
uhh i think that's a joke you guys. Don't take it so seriously geez.

28K final peak, Mori and Ina getting some illegal view funneling.

>>13482725
I wonder if this weird drop was Susan being triggered by the sudden funneling.

>>13482876
Kek possible

>>13482233
collab fee is too expensive

Is the collab fee an industry standard?

cam on irys get that 8k!

>>13483150
Only Nijisanji practices this.

>>13483515
Really? since it's a finally maybe a little higer?

>>13483768
Is the JP dub a debuff for EN when playing RE8? It seems like only Gura got the buff because she played it not long after they got permission.

>>13482876
I wasn't watching the stream, but with JK a lot of people tab out/leave when they lose too much progress at once.

You guys said the VOD views were where it's at, but those aren't looking that great either...

>>13484084
That's basically doubled from where it was when it ended iirc but yea that's gonna be a slow-burn unless the algo picks it up.

gold medal?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofqnMs25UOQ

>>13484248
*Most likely candidate
Yea.
After the amount of slippage I've witnessed in the past few weeks I'll wait until midnight JST to call anything.

>>13483893
I think it has more to do that Irys picked the censored version.

>>13484614
She's in Japan, she could only get the censored version unless she uses a VPN, and she's not tech savvy

Pekkers will stream after Noel totsu. The Queen knew what she is doing.

>>13484614
She will be lucky to hit 5k, other streams will start in 15mins, her peak for a finale is 4k+, pretty low and it's only the 3rd series of the game

>>13485098
Totsus are ok to overlap though and tend to be 2-3 hrs long

>vshojo drama
>genv
Will NijiEN become #2 in English market?

>>13485232
It's probably gonna overlap and peko said shes only doing a short stream

>>13485556
>>vshojo drama
where??

More crane game stuff

>>13481052

>>13479738
>not calling ANYTHING until midnight JST rolls around.
This but unironically
Just don't call early, period

>>13485098
i love this massive numberfag rabbit

>>13480249
Depends on what kind of drama

>>13480678
Don't forget:
>Matsuri, of all people: 1

>>13485607
https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/r0e9kj/nyanners_response_to_nux_taku_problematic_vtuber/

>>13486203
>>13485665
>>13485607
western drama is pretty lame

Will the Vshojo drama incline the Vshojo brand like it the Chink arc did for Hololive?

Or will we see more proof for Hololive's black magic as Vshojo starts to decline after this yab?

>>13486487
Won't do much. Vshojo is drama prone anyways.

>>13486487
Vshojo doesn't have a reputation to save. This wont affect them.

>>13486487
VShojo's not gonna decline, but this will stun their growth a bit

Pekora just set up a frame right after Noel's birthday.
Possible upset candidate.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDalnofE9K3GMHMymH4Jz3w

Never seen a stop motion Hololive animation before, it seems this channel is getting pretty good views.

>>13487375
Cover's black magic. Even normal animes didn't get as much fan arts or animations by themselves.

IRyS’ RE8 Finale is doing pretty poorly (based on her standards recently), I wonder why? I thought she would have gotten a boost from the finale, not losing viewers compared to her past REs streams, and it’s not like there is any big HoloEN stream going around either (Mori 8k JK and Baelz’s 6k Pokemon)

>>13487375
>>13487454
I wonder how it makes other agencies feel knowing that Hololive basically has a monopoly over fan made content.

Not saying NijiEN, VShoujo, or any of the smaller startups have their fair share of fan artists, but Holo is on another level.

I think Pippa is the only other non-Holo I can think of that was made a 3D VRChat model by her fans

Fucking hell, I swear there's a lot of niji shills invading the Holo subreddit compared to before. They keep linking in posts/events that's related to Niji and Holo.

>>13487659
Slow and steady strat is working. Holo only faggots are not indoctrinated into Global Nijisanjification

>>13486487
Nothing will happen

>>13487659
Its the only way they can shill their chuubas on r/all

>>13487510
She's made no progress in the game, she has spent half the stream at Duke and 2 hours in has only just got started in the next zone from where she left off last stream. I like her but it's been like watching paint dry so far.

>>13487659
Main culprits is Ollie and Kiara. I swear those two doesn't think twice of bringing in leeches/parasites into the fandom.

>>13487830
>>13487659
>Give a shit about plebbit in the first place

>>13487918
Bae too but mostly it's just Ironmouse replying to her tweets and Bae ignoring Mousey

>>13487944
Like it or not, It's easy clout as compared to YT/Twitter. It's where most of the western vtuber fanbase resides.

>>13487659
Good timing, I called that one out and received -100

>>13487955
>Ironmouse replying to her tweets and Bae ignoring Mousey
does ironmouse still reply on kiara's tweet? i do feel like mouse paid less attention to kiara after former started getting higher ccv

>>13477566
They're already all above 100k subs, there's not a single holo, stars or otherwise who has less than 100k subs at the moment

>>13487944
well, it's the most visited website in the western world. Even beat twitter.

>>13487659
That's nothing new. When nijiEN debuted they went REALLY hard on the stealth marketing, even in here. The present state of tribalism probably still has some influence from that period.

>>13488509
one of the most visited websites*

>>13488466
The viewer amount don't increase tho

>>13488536
The game's been streamed to hell and back and it's not a game like FFX where people particularly care about the reaction to the ending.

>>13488608
meant for
>>13487510

>>13487659
Reddit has always been like that, they wanted something new. They used to shills Holostar before, then Pika-> Uto -> Vshojo. Now it's NijiEn. Anyway, they only watch clips these days

>>13488466
They need to beat poci mama first

>>13488774
Maybe it's because there are less Holo fans visiting Reddit now, so these shills have more opportunities to blend in.

how many 20k shitters does hololive have this month?
can they beat last years record? ten 20k shitters. req 3+ streams

>>13485607
tldr:
>Doxxfags impersonating Vshojo sending fake "You got accepted on the audition!" emails
>Retarded twitch vtubers fall for it and give them all of their info
>They get doxxed and swatted
>Vshojo knows about this and hides the info for months. Never warns anyone
>Nuxtaku a news (v)youtuber also receives this email
>Does background checks and figures out its a scam
>organizes a investigation on his own with some of the other youtubers that do tech stuff
>they catch one of the doxxfags
>releases the video on what happened
>Nyanners goes on a full mental breakdown and attacks him for making Vshojo look bad. Attacks anyone that talks about this
>Vshojo did nothing to protect the vtubers that were scammed, never warns anyone, never takes down the doxx website

Anyway this is why Omega doesn't let HoloEN collab willy nilly with EN vtubers. Even the established ones are major drama magnets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRgJLWiSIZk

>>13488862
the next drama will involve vtubers and another twitch streamer; rpr and his team

>>13487454
CMIIW, but you cant make fan anim from an anime, put it on YT and not get sued

>>13488841
Probably not. Pekora, Marine, Miko, Gura and possibly Subaru will the ones who have a 20k+ mean and median.

>>13487659
I went to check it out and man some people are desperately pushing for collabs. Feels like vyt more than the Hololive subreddit.

>>13489255
I bet the ranking is going to be like this

1. Pekora
2. Marine
-------------- 30k line
3. Kuzuha
4. Aqua
5. Miko
6. Suisei
7. Gura
8. Subaru
-------------- 20k line
9. Korone
10. Toya
11. Rushia
12. Shion
-------------- 15k line
13. Kanata
14. Lize
15. Fuwa
16. Mito
17. Mio
18. Botan
19. IRyS
20. Ina
-------------- 10k line

>>13489595
>some people
It's just kfp and selenschizo

>>13487659
Giant pomu face kek.

Is it just me or there is never that many collabs between HoloEN and HoloID. I mean, both branches speak English anyway so why is the amount of collabs between them so little? Even Ollie is never that excited to seek out a collab with Gura, the freaking most sub vtuber, despite being in the same agency when she tries to collab with any creature that synthesize Co2.

>>13487659
Checked the frontpage and haven't seen any.
Checked new, and still haven't seen any.

>>13489595
And people claim that Holoassociation isn't a thing. It's clearly working, if something as simple as a Tweet gets so much attention in Reddit why wouldn't Uto's "same mama" shit?
That aside Kiara and Ollie needs to be kept in check. Those two are going to ruin the ecosystem.

>>13489893
u clearly didnt

>>13489893
It's the one with pomu's face front and center with Kiara's reply squirrelled away at the bottom and that makes it technically Hololive content

>>13489893
Didn't take me 5 seconds into the subreddit to see this

for the guy looking for that yagoo latecomer tweet here you go
https://twitter.com/tanigox/status/591028015502503936

>>13489938
>>13489987
>>13490002
Using old reddit, didn't see it.

>>13490048
So am I

>>13490048
Ok, found it, guess it's time to downvote.

>>13490048
>major announcement news

>>13488536
A bit before LazuLight debuted, I recall one very committed """anon""" to the NijiEN cause refusing to use the words *fag, nigger, or anything unfriendly and did not like it in the OP. I would just say that this was a tourist if it was not for the fat that he was seething that people weren't putting NijiEN twitter/youtube links in the OP.

>>13489858
busy schedule.

>>13490094
I doubt this will affect HoloEN's viewership that much. It would some snicker, but in the end no one will watch NijiEN anyway.

>>13490027
also here's the source for the freeriding/planting greenery nip numberfag meme
https://www.moguravr.com/anycolor-vtuber-producer-interview/

>>13490146
Oh it's actually happening. Don't think it will make selen incline that much since holoid is going downhill lately.

>>13489858
Ollie is afraid of Gura and her fanbase. Otherwise Reine in particular collabs with holoen a lot and even Anya has on occasion. ID1 is ID1.

>>13490147
That sounds like ShinobiHost, a NijiShill on vtuber reddit.

>>13489858
There are a few, but it's mostly because of timezones. The IDs basically live in the same timezone as the JPs so the only one who could collab with them well is Mori and Irys

>>13490261
Kek, even Ollie is afraid with her personality?

>>13490259
What'd be fantastic is if Selen ends up draining Ollie's viewers.

>>13490304
The stupid girl is /here/, and she probably wandered into /ggg/ wondering what they thought of her. It's not positive last I checked.

>>13490304
That's something a lot of people don't realize about Ollie. A lot of her persona is a purposeful exaggeration and she's actually as neurotic as ID1.

>>13490338
I hope so, with her decline she will either all out in collabing with these literal who's then crash and burn or cut back collab with outsider and trying with holos again

>>13490521
Maybe that Selen's power, sucking up all the fanbase to her. She then will utilize her own black magic to score a HoloEN collab, slowing sucking up their fanbase as well. Yagoo's black magic might have another competitor.

>>13490604
Then after she accomplished all that, she graduated and reincarnated at holoEN 4 bringing those massive fanbase back to holos
Wtf I love selen now

It will be another matsuri situation again, keep collabing with literal whos and you get abandoned by the greater holo viewers. For a chuba to properly incline via collabs, you need constant same collabs until you form a group narrative. One time collabs don't really work.

>>13490722
>she graduated and reincarnated at holoEN 4
You really think anyone from NijiEN would graduate to join HoloEN.

>>13490374
Ollie and her fans have been bullied out of hlgg, that’s how much they hate her antics.

>>13490261
Chumbuds basically cut Ollie’s point of access to Gura by overwhelmingly telling her to not play Apex, she even had it on the schedule but never mentioned it again after the feedback.

>>13490837
I think her CCV has been tanking as well (not just her but most of ID actually). Her subgrowth remains higher than Moona so she'll still probably pass her in terms of sub count.

>>13490882
Rosemi

>>13490837
You need constant same collabs until you form a group narrative. One time collabs don't really work.
How did you learn this? Who did you observe? Do you have any example of people doing callabs right?

>>13490837
when will they understand? holobronies only watch holoshit. Himawari has been collabing with Polka but shes not inclining at all

>>13490970
And it's a good thing. Leeches deserves nothing.

>>13490967
Luna

>>13490837
kek
Ollie really is ID matsuri huh
>best first time impression during her debut days just like watching matsuri clip for the first time (at least for me)
>both are good streamer until fallen to Apex
>pushing outside collab knowing portion of their fans is uneasy with it
next Ollie just need to create another haachama drama like matsuri

>>13490970
Some holo clip also tend to stall in views when they feature collab with people most holo fans don't know.

>>13490837
yeah this is definitely going the matsuri route it looks like

>>13490967
Towa - Bora - VSPO girls is a good example.

>>13490410
Are you implying her persona doesn't make her come off as neurotic?

>>13491109
Stupid girl has Matsuri as her holo-Oshi too. Sigh, she really needs to stick to just 2-3 out of Holo peeps max, any more and people tune out if you're collabing with another random person the week after.

>>13491194
>>13490837
>>13490970
>>13491059
Guys, this is the numbers thread not the wishful thinking thread. The reason why matsuri declined is because she attracted one type of audience (The people who came in for the bandaid/pissing stuff), and then filtered that audience by playing apex all fucking day even after that original fanbase complained. It has absolutely nothing to do with outside collabs, and it especially doesn't apply in Ollies case because she attracted most of her audience by collabing with outsiders, namely the chess and apex collabs.

>>13491194
Feels like Matsuri is her stepping stone if anything. She acts like this to most other Holos and baits them into marrying her. Remind me when was the last time you've heard about Matsuri X Ollie interactions?

>>13490967
Flare with Micomet

>>13490995
How are friends collabing leaching?
People take the leaching shit way too seriously, it barely matters. Pomu, the 3rd most popular NijiEN collabing with the 10th most popular HoloEN will do nothing for either. HoloJP collabing with NijiJP didn't really make them incline, it was Hololive's own content and effectiveness of clips. NijiEN will only "leach views" if they provide more appealing content and get a little luck.

>>13491332
Because that was meant to be a throwaway insult.

>>13491332
That 10th HoloEN worth wayyyyyy more than 1st of nijiEN nijinigger

>>13491301
Fair, that is true with Ollie. Alas, novelty only works for ao long before it fades and you have to stand on your own merits.

>>13491319
Polka...

>>13491463
Shiraken and Bakatare circus have done good for the menhera clown. She's streaming regularly again instead of being in hiatus-menhrra daze.

>>13491301
Matsuri was inclining while collabing with people outside of hololive. The cause of the decline is her content and attitude, not people leaching views off of her.

People get insane about collabs. I don't get the mentally. You see it a lot in Japan, like how some people don't have the right to collab with people and an obsession with leaching.

>>13491433
>That 10th HoloEN worth wayyyyyy more than 1st of nijiEN
Yes but it won't cause the downfall of HoloEN. Collabing with HoloJP did not cause the downfall of NijiJP.
>nijinigger
I don't like NijiEN in any capacity and I never have and never will watch Nijisanji from any branch.

>>13490967
OKFAMS, SENPAITACHI, SubaChocoLuna, Gen 3 unity, Gen 5 unity, ShiranuiKen, Usaken. KanaCoco, etc.

Many good examples in Holo. Note that Matsuri isn't part of most of these

If you want a non Holo example, then you have Chronoir.

>>13491533
>I don't get the mentally. You see it a lot in Japan, like how some people don't have the right to collab with people and an obsession with leaching.
Just like how this board is more obsessed with pleasing unicorns than actual nips are, some people just using "the nips do it" as a thin veneer to excuse their own retardation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rhSft6IBsA
pekor

>>13491332
Here is a simple logic. If they are trully friends, they can just play offstream, no need to involve the brand, right? what's the point?

>>13490270
And, unsurprisingly, those two (and Bae, who also lives in the same timezone) have the most ID collabs. It also doesn't help that nearly half of ID (Moona/Risu) are inkyas.

>>13491557
>Usaken
I wouldn't really group it with the others on that list. There's not really any sense of bond or periodic collabs there. Unless you count TowaPekoBota as a usaken group, which is kind of stretching it since they never collab in MC.

>>13491648
dunno, that's not for me to decide if two people want to collab. I don't know if they interact on or off screen. It's not my duty to "protect" the brand's image. I like hololive because of the members and content.

>>13491533
>Collabing with HoloJP did not cause the downfall of NijiJP.
True, and likewise, holojp don't need to save them

time to lower irys floor from 6k to 4k again got too cocky

Another CR cup
https://twitter.com/riteiruozisan/status/1463370380228186120
12/25 lmao who the fuck watch some ecelebs playing gaypex on Christmas day

>>13491740
Apex truly is the japanese dating game

>>13491740
>overwork
brutal org, give your team a nice holliday pussies

>>13491729
It's not "saving them" since it doesn't really do much for them.

As Suisei's star is rising the same can't be said of her best buddy Inui Toko, who has declined. She declined.

>>13491617
Pekora does Mog everyone, makes sense she is on Mog radio. Will be interesting to see if this vod will get much more than the normal 60k these videos get.

>>13482071
>no kson
I think something is worth investigating here lads

>>13486487
This is just your regular tuesday for twitchfags

>>13487597
They probably just jealous, not the seething type, just wish it was them

>>13487659
I swear if this is a complex scheme to outs the tourists in /here/, you've done a good job

>>13492124
It takes less than a minute to type in "Holoreddit" in the search bar and find that huge ass Pomu face in the front page.

>>13488841
if everything played right it's still possible
the only hard part is to get Ayame to stream something

Irys hiding the ending scene of RE8 and her ccv drops when this is suppose to be the only time the viewers will come.

>>13491740
No more Bora..

>>13489858
IDs are mostly japfags. They love to living the anime dream of interacting with irl anime related nips

>>13492124
That's like making a complex scheme to detect oxygen in earth's atmosphere.

>>13490146
Untill when will she realize these collabs are just eating away her viewer base. This is why she will never beat moona, numberwise

>>13492254
Blame Capcom and their retarded policies.

>>13491533
>You see it a lot in Japan, like how some people don't have the right to collab with people and an obsession with leaching.
Well, a lot of people /here/ still haven't left their /jp/ phase

Wait so Noel finished Final Fantasy X and only got roughly a 6k ccv boost? I was expecting that she would atleast hit 20k. Is this just a Pekora diff in her presentation on the story?

>>13492386
When do they have this policy? I remember Gura showed the bloody whole thing, now I think about it, Ina didn't show the whole ending either.

>>13491194
She should've stick with her astel-ollie pair. That shit is way better than throw ur view outside

>Noel birthday totsu with no overlap
Will this win the day?

>>13487597
>I wonder how it makes other agencies feel knowing that Hololive basically has a monopoly over fan made content.
Most companies don't give a fuck about designs, nor do they use 'lore/kayfabe' correctly as a marketing and branding gimmick.

>>13492503
They've always had that policy, it's just that they are shit at communicating it and also laizee faire in enforcing it so it's pretty much on the honor system

>>13492520
They do. They try it all the time. It just doesn't work too well.

Meanwhile, when no one was looking ...

>>13492569
Good. Now chinks cant impersonate omegafag in the chat

Speaking of CR CUP. Interesting number here.
Did you know who, at 6 champions, has the most champions in the CR cup? A small devil from the Hololive Vtuber agency who has played in 4 of the 7 Cr cups that have been held.

6回トワ様 (Towasama Hololive)
5回ウォッカさん (Wokka CR)
4回のせさん (Nose Vspo)
3回多数 (Many others)

Ame...

>>13490967
The most dramatic example for this observation isn’t even a proper collab, just two autists regularly finding each other playing in the same Micra server.
>PekoMoona
Moona inclined heavily and Pekora had some of her best CCVs in 2020 when Moona appeared on stream It helped cement their place as CCV queen and No 1 ID which lasts until today.

One-off collabs has been known to bring some benefits but it doesn’t seem to last except perhaps for sub numbers

>>13492694
>Did you know who, at 6 champions, has the most champions in the CR cup? A small devil from the Hololive Vtuber agency who has played in 4 of the 7 Cr cups that have been held.
what?

>>13492694
I bet Towafags will be thrilled to realize that their Christmas stream with their oshi is gonna be fucking Apex.
Also what are you on? Champions as in tournaments participated or first places?

>>13492694
Kek

>>13492569
the true tutorial boss
>>13492642
Have they even tried? The recent batch of chinks haven't exactly been the sharpest tools in the shed

>>13492698
irys...

>>13492734
There are 5 matches per CR cup, and Towa has actually managed to get 6/20 in the ones she's participated in? That's actually pretty good.

>>13492698
irys is a fucking failure

>>13492770
Last christmas the stream was apex too, duo's with open voicechat, much towafag spaghetti was spilled. And it all devolved into hilarious stream sniping, fun was had by all.
Also, It is champions as in, wining games in the finals.

>>13492694
Cover and their black magic.

>>13492903
Well 'finals' as in the actual 5 matches and not the scrims yea, but considering the lineupsfor the CR cups, to get 6 champion (wins) out of 20 matches is a really strong record, even if Towa isn't the big point getter and more of a strong supporting role.

>>13488841
We will probably never see numbers like Nov 2020 again.

Peak Minecraft Construction companies/ Peko-Moona storylines.
Miko, Coco, Haachama with their return buff.
There were ~20 Hololive vtubers who took longer breaks in Oct for health or other reasons who returned and were buffed in Nov.
Peak vtuber interest in the west
Myth still riding debut wave
Lockdown nth peak
Pre-culling YT

>>13490931
>Her subgrowth remains higher than Moona so she'll still probably pass her in terms of sub count.
When is she predicted to surpass Moona? Will she beat her before 1 million? Shame about her CCV though, I genuinely think she can surpass Moona in terms of CCV if she stops somewhat debuffing herself

>>13485843
They'll have to compete with Hololive dominance if they want to cheese the YT algorithm.

Why aren't that many people making fan animations of vtubers other than Hololive?

Is it just because Hololive lore is more engaging?

>>13493637
because it's more rewarding?

>>13493637
Because it brings more numbers.

>>13493650
Is it? Lots of the fan animations seems to be passion projects with the views being a nice bonus.

>>13493637
Because numbers beget numbers.

>>13492694
Selen don't look...
Its ok to get 11th place, a participants badge

>>13493637
Hololive is the new touhou

>>13493637
Numbers -> Numbers
Algo dominance means that it takes much less work to get something good to gain traction if this holo-themed. Also, artists are notorious bandwagoners, and will hop on any trend to keep themselves relevant because YouTube hates animators, so any trick you can use to beat the algo is fair game.

>>13493750
>>13493698
If it's passion then numbers shouldn't matter.

looks like the korean hololive hashtag reached 10k videos with 474 channels.
#홀로라이브(hololive) = 10k videos, 474 channels
#니지산지(nijisanji) = 3.4k videos, 176 channels
#ホロライブ = 132k videos, 6k channels
#にじさんじ = 95k videos, 4.9k channels
#hololive = 219k videos, 12k channels
#nijisanji = 20k videos, 1.7k channels

whats surprising for me is:
#vtuber = 1.4m videos, 44k channels
jesus christ

>>13493781
Ha
Hahahha.
hahahahahahaha
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
All the good artists are massive numberfags, and it helps your passion to know that your work WILL be rewarded instead of hoping and praying that your work gets noticed. Many projects, amazing fanart and shit, languish and die due to a lack of exposure to a wider audience.
Like, if you know that you can put in 20+ hours into something and at the very minimum a several thousand people will notice it because it's Holothemed, that's a lot of anxiety, pressure and stress taken off your shoulders and lets you focus on putting your all into it instead of having to spend a chunk of your time trying to get people to notice your work.
I'm not saying there isn't any passion involved, but anyone who's good enough eventually has to deal with the reality that the numbers do matter.

>>13493781
Well, idolfags have a lot of passions, unironically
And some of them have the audacity to actually do their reps and channel their autism energy into something productive instead of spregging about it in some Chinese crypto scamming backwater website

>>13493878
Vtubers are the new touhou

>>13493878(me)
#anime is 2.2m videos, 440k channels btw

>>13493781
It isn't that simple. I assume it's similar to why FGO dominated Comiket until Covid hit, too. Artists make fan projects -> fan projects attract new fans and raise the IP's popularity in general -> demands raise -> artists are more motivated to make fan projects -> rinse and repeat.
There is the little story about one of FGO artists (don't remember who) who tried to make another IP doujin for one comiket, only ended up having much difficult time selling his doujin compared to his FGO doujins. Said artist promptly went back to FGO afterwards. Passion is nice and all, but seeing your product of passion failing isn't all that nice. Spending dozens hours for dozens thousands to millions views feel good. Spending that many hours for a thousand views is... less so

>>13493886
this 100%
you talk like an artist anon

>>13490970
Maybe for the JP side. EOPs will check out anything holo touched, the problem is being able to retain them. Uto and Sodafunk are examples of this. Selen will definitely benefit from this, clips and memes will give her exposure.

>>13493886
Exposure leads to expossure. This lad does some animations and then suddenly he's doing the MVs for some holos. https://www.youtube.com/c/MochimikoEN

I think some 3D animator who quite a few hololive animations got work for doing Myth's song. His other videos don't get as much hits but they probably did get boosted by association.

>>13494108
Eh, if it's a one-and-done, the effect won't be much

Case in point: Pikamee, VShojo

>>13493957
How soon until Vtubers overtake anime?

>>13494121
Kanauru has been making Hololive MMD videos during the peak of Hololive in the West (around Jan 2021). He only really blew up with the Coco and Elite Miko Freedom Lady skit.

But tbf, I don't think he originally was an animator, he mostly uploaded dance videos until he posted Hololive content

>>13494252
>How soon until Hololive overtake anime
ftfy

https://www.youtube.com/c/HoloLiveSings/videos?view=0&sort=p&flow=grid

Hololive Sings got copyright struck by Cover and is being terminated tomorrow.
RIP to all these karaoke cover views. Literally millions of views lost for Gura's clips.

>>13493886
And dont forget, the reward is doubled if the artist can actually came up with something unique and kino to get commissioned by holo, meaning more exposure

>>13493999
Musically trained, but given personal circumstances and understanding of the limits and risks, opted not to go into a career in music. Just how things roll sometimes.
Okay, blog posting aside, the fact that you could potentially end up doing work for you Oshi is no doubt an absolutely tantalizing bit of motivation. Ame, Mori, Kiara ( and probably Gura if what one Anon in this very thread has indicated that Dudul is working on something for Gura) have all tapped into fan animators for work on one thing or another. It's one thing to believe that such opportunities are there, it's a other to see it in action.

>>13494273
Understandable. With how paranoid cover is, i bet the song holders prompt them to take down those illegal songs/the non paid/the unarchieved ones

>>13494121
Ame being so loud about commissioning artists from the community probably helps drive this somewhat.

>>13494388
Yea...given how he worded it, he knows the songs that were struck likely had pretty significant legal issues and that's why he's not making a huge fucking fuss and instead being very understanding why he got blown up over it.
Makes me wonder if other uploaders who went and uploaded other unarchived karaoke shit might get strikes sooner rather than later.

>>13494481
It might be because of the hololive name attached to his channel

>>13494252
If 2hu still didn’t (despite being much an entire giant thing) vtubers (or Hololive) also won’t.

>>13494767
2hus didn't occupy the same spot that anime occupied, though, unlike vtubers.

>>13494566
thats it

* streams over 10k so far, unfiltered *
No 1AM surprises today so the thread will likely be slow and comfy and unslippy

>>13494767
2hu didn't have a fucking story. It's literally "Reimu is a dick to the new kids on the block"
It was purely fan driven and fans need to be herded in some way.

>>13494784
Explain.

>>13494802
>2hu didn't have a fucking story
Which makes it similar to vtubers. The story is made up by the fan base as it goes along

>>13494803
Someone who watches anime is not going to drop watching anime so they can go play a shootemup. They might take a passing fancy to it, or perhaps fap to a few of the doujins, but it's not going to replace anime for them.
This is not the case for vtubers, for many people vtubers have completely replaced the spot that Anime used to occupy in their schedules.

>>13494794
... 12k

>>13494860
Vtubers have absolutely supplanted the time I used to allot for 'cgdct' anime. Why watch that when I can watch cgdct...in realtime?!

>>13494794
can we even call him silverboy anymore...

>>13494849
Vtuber show up more often than touhou games do plus unless you're schizo touhous don't respond back. What you're stuck with is talking to fans and absorbing yourself in doujin content. There is less direction.

>>13493637
Hololive talents create passionate fans and the fans in turn create passionate art/animation/clips/shitposts for their oshi. Hololive fans unironically do their reps lol

>>13494794
well FBK just started it's looking really strong
miko also starting in an hour
those will sure be over 20k

>>13495057
Wasnt there a channel that made NijiEN animation? I also recall Temmie of Undertale fame made one of Selen. Wonder why they havent made more

>>13495110
Wasn't there a talk just a couple of days ago about how nijisan basically asked clippers and reactors to make nijisan content? Forced content isn't going to last.

>>13495147
sasuga organic growth

>>13494941
>unless you're schizo touhous don't respond back.
TAKE IT BACK!

>not taking the meds tho

>>13495110
>Temmie
She watches Flare now

>>13493637
>Hololive lore
lmao

>>13495147
>Doesn't like forced growth.
>Does this shit anyway.
Riku is a massive liar.

Hololive's growth is far more organic, considering it's actually a grassroots effort.

>>13495237
Hololive has the most fanfics on Ao3. Clearly their lore is working.

>>13495147
It might not last but if it does it is money well spent. Nijisanji had almost no foreign presence, letting people hear their name and be exposed to it multiple times will keep Nijisanji in people's heads. NijiEN isn't exactly setting the world on fire and they aren't growing BUT they're not Tsunderia and Prism Project tier. Considering ANYCOLOR decided to change their name from いちから the same day NijiEN debuted makes me think that they were hoping for something, throwing some money hear and there might help it some more. One meme catching fire can do a lot.

>>13495281
Mind reminding me Pekora's/Korone's/Okayu's lore?

Fubuki is getting almost 20k watching her play pokemon btw

>>13495057
There's the one dedicated Mio fan who posts Mio content daily on reddit. And he got rewarded with Mio noticing him.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/qzbyoi/i_cant_believe_it_posting_mio_content_daily_until/

This is the shit that creates passion.

>>13493637
>Is it just because Hololive lore is more engaging?
Vshojo is pretty popular but even they don't to get stuff like this done for free
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFt3snZ0gE8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R_U25XyF2M

>>13495303
Peko is a runaway princess from Pekoland.

Korone is a baker dog.
Okayu is a gamer cat.

>>13495316
She restarted for 2 straight days to get a shiny starter.
Her run is going to get consistent 20k just because of the narrative of having a shiny starter run.

>>13495336
Holy shit, that's kino.

Also, another example of lore helping inspire fan projects.

>>13495316
She's playing a "pokemon of different colours" challenge. That's certainly a bit different.

>>13495363
Oh. No wonder. Is she going to do an all shiny run then?

>>13495293
That reminds me, surely Nijisanji JP had many memes considering they were the top vtubing company for a time.

Why didn't their memes become popular?

>>13491557
>Note that Matsuri isn't part of most of these
Matsuri isn't in ANY of the sub units. In fact, she ended up burning all of her bridges with almost every Holo she got pushed with and ended up getting more recurring collabs with outsiders than insiders for a narrative box push. Even the corporate Umisea unit was more successful in maintaining presence than Matsuri with any of her groups.

>>13495094
>>13495316

Sometimes Fubuki does streams that remind us why she used to be the ace of Hololive before the other girls overtook her.

>>13495411
They likely did, in Japan, but not in the west.

>>13495411
They do, they just aren't known about in the west because of the massive divide between the Niji EN and JP fanbases.

>>13494941
>touhous don't respond back

i can't forgive this anon.

>>13495233
Going through her twitter I've seen
Holos: Flare, Ina, and another one who I forgot
Nijis: Kanae, Kuzuha, Selen, Elira

I also want to call out the meme that Walfie abandoned holo for NijiEN. I went through his shit and it's like a 5:1 holo:niji ration. Not sure how that meme started.

>>13495336
Thank you for the lore omega!

>>13495419
HoloEN doesn't have the strong bonds nor the members yet to form a natural subunit, but once they do, they might see a second wave of renewed interest.

AmeSame being stopped was a damn shame. Even if Takamori was forced and kinda cringe, it still spawned a lot of fanarts and fanfiction, which is good for fan engagement.

Gura has Bonebros wth Calli for now, but they need more collabs for it to take off.

Gura, Kronii, and Mumei could be a subunit in the future.

>>13495409
Yup.

>>13495451
>>13495435
I meant to ask why they didn't blow up in the West, but I forgot to type it lol.

>>13495409
>>13495519
I've gotten way more shinies in this then I ever have before so maybe it is doable.

November superchats so far, updated up to yesterday
>Lamy - $88,336
>kson - $83,347
>Rushia - $74,214
>Kuzuha - $45,260
>Noel - $43,075
>Miko - $41,647
>Mori - $39,460
>Marine - $36,651
>Pekora - $33,315
>Kanata - $31,039
>Ibrahim - $30,387

>>13491883
Their subgrowth is pretty much the same. It's pretty unlikely Ollie will catch up to her before 1M, especially if Moona starts actively streaming again.

>>13495457
Because he started doing some NijiEn stuff, and you know how this board loves its rrats...

>>13495579
Wamy!

>>13495457
last time i browsed his 2nd account he can't stop talking about nijiEN though?

>>13495579
Holos never dominate the top of the day list but somehow always dominate the weekly/monthly list.

>>13495612
Because they are consistent and don't really rely on events to earn SC.

Oh the frame for gen3 live tomorrow is up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5UouZHdBqU
The earlier timeslot will probably hurt the free part peak numbers but should be decent if nothing else.

>>13491533
>I don't understand how brand loyalty works, my brotherinos!
There's decades of history to make you understand the kind of mentality that shows this isn't unique to Japan or even unique to the chuuba market.

People get invested in their particular brand of product and will not tolerate when "lesser brands" try to cash in on their products success. This also applies to everything from consoles, to sports teams, and even motherfucking soap operas. Did you forget Edward vs Jacob was a thing once upon a time?

>>13492437
>>13491610
Neither of those are arguments against collabs of any kind. Until they are viewed as peers by the audience that has to deal with them, they will be treated with hostility.

>>13495605
I'm browsing it not and he talks about both companies a lot. I'm not saying he doesn't like NijiEN, he may even prefer it, I'm just saying the meme about him being a full convert and abandoning hololive is extremely false.

>>13492903
That was great. Playing the couples game on the couples holiday with the aim to hunt down and kill the couples with kenzoku.

>>13495258
No shit even back then 5ch called him out on his bullshit.

>>13495636
>watch pekora stream ONEBLOCK after the free portion while doing her concert.

>>13495612
The daily list is usually dominated by whoever is having a special stream or event, or told some sob story during the stream. But those people aren't going to get the consistent donations the top SC holos get every single day.

Subaru continuing her Pokemon saga with Okayu later today, that'll probably get good numbers but nothing that would beat a totsu. Pekora is an unknown since it might be a mengen, it might be skyblock, it might be anything really.
Any gold contenders on Niji's side today?

>>13495636
Alright let's posts our predictions:
>Since it's 5:30pmJST then i say it can get 60k (i say it can get 75k-80k if it was JP Primetime but it's too early)

>>13495579
Where's Fuwa? I assumed he racked around 30k already. 10k from Splatoon tourney, and another 14k iirc from today. Dude makes a killing from events. August had that morning event thing, ends with 16k. September Nijirock, 21k. I don't know bout October. Now, November with Splatoon. I would always compare his SC output with Gura but Gura would always end up closing up to him without any events.

>>13495636
Too early and too short to gather enough views, I'll give it 50k~60k

>>13495636
How long is the free portion?

Matuli... just leech off of your colleagues for a while...

>>13495800
30 minutes preroll shilling, 30 minutes concert.

>>13495820
seems more than enough for it to reach its full peak, though the early timeslot will hurt it.

>>13495731
That slot at 22 jst is cutthroat, Subaru showed that she will get good numbers with Pokemon, Okayu will also grabbing a good bunch. Pekora will of course also grab a big part regardless what she plays. I wonder though, if she continues her Pokemon playthrough, will the overlap will Subaru Okayu hurt her?

FBK getting an easy 24k. 3 years into the job, and she rarely lost her footing. Mito, however...

>>13494905
>Why watch that when I can watch cgdct...in realtime?!
This was the end goal all along. With anime, you know there is a beginning middle and and, but with chuubas, the end is only when they simply stop streaming or you lose interest.

CGDCT was defeated by live streaming VTubers.

>>13495835
Pokemon is her weekend game, she made an exception for the holiday. She'll be doing something else today, I'm guessing one block since Marine summoned the monster she asked her to, so now it's Pekora's turn to do solo progress

>>13495857
If its oneblock it might have a special reaction buff since people will want to see her react to the world tree being burnt, it won't have the same buff as when her house got burned offstream but it will be interesting to take note.

>>13495758
Oh I forgot to add him oops lol
>Lamy - $88,336
>kson - $83,347
>Rushia - $74,214
>Kuzuha - $45,260
>Noel - $43,075
>Miko - $41,647
>Mori - $39,460
>Fuwa - $37,481
>Marine - $36,651
>Pekora - $33,315
>Kanata - $31,039
>Ibrahim - $30,387

Didn't follow the Splatoon tournament, how come he made so much from it?

10PM JST looking super stacked today

>>13495855
Pretty much. That's part of the reason hololive was able to tap into such a big market without compeltely overlapping with niji. The no-males policy comes as much from CGDCT anime as it does from idol culture.

>>13495731
>Any gold contenders on Niji's side today?
Not that I'm aware of. I think most people already conceded that Noel's birthday totsu with probably only FBK streaming against it will win.

>>13495886
Basically the hacchama birthday situation again, atleast Miko isn't camping in that timeslot too.

>>13495884
>how come he made so much from it?
He dabbed his way to a victory over the stacked team.

>>13495758
Fuwa is such an anomaly to me.
He's like Kuzuha lite, 10k less in median and his song views are slight worse but still high for a vtuber.
The dude has insane peak potential (143k 3D debut and 90k costume) and SC farming potential ($139k 3D debut). His clips and tweets go viral and whenever he does special streams, the numbers are comparable to top Holos, but his sub growth and daily numbers are underwhelming compared to his popularity.
If you only looked at event numbers, you would think Fuwa is right up there with Kuzuha and stronger than Kenmochi and Kanae.
Then again, he's still 10k monthly median so it's not like he's doing poorly for a 450k sub vtuber.

More holoshit at C99
I wonder how the lines will be
I wonder if scalpers will eat well

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1463447303319011329

>>13495778
What time did the Gen 1 Free Portion and Kuzuha Birthday started?
Because i don't think this can get lower numbers than Gen 1 but all of you are saying this started too early that it will make lower numbers than expected

>>13495917
Easy. Blue/white colour and his model is attractive.

Wtf, Sora dropped a new(?) cover. Did I miss a premier scheduling? Can't really see her hyping it up on twitter either after the release.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgRLreIZiaE

>>13495974
That's a good point actually, I don't know when that one aired but it should have more than that by default

>>13496009
Sora's covers don't do that well anyways so it probably wouldn't have made much of a difference.
Her issue isn't exposure, every Holofag knows who Sora is.
She just doesn't have that many actual fans despite many people liking her.

>>13495636
>pre-recorded

>>13496009
she sucks at numberfagging and always stealth drop his covers.

>>13494905
Anime with great effects, fights, dark storylines etc will always have a place. But slice of life, cgdcgt, idols anime etc has massive overlap for sure

>>13495884
Funny how all 3 nijis needed events to get into the ranks

Also, I just noticed that Rushia is $7k away from beating Coco's SC. How long did it took already? It's around 5 months so around 130+ days to get like 500k to beat coco?

>>13495974
Same time as the Gen1 concert (it's an hour earlier for those outside of Japan since they don't observe DST)

>>13495431
FBK doesn’t chase after numbers she leaves that to her kouhai. She hated the pressure of being #1 and is comfortable at her own pace.

>>13495854
who's mito? Miko sister?

>>13496119
Same with Gura lol. Gura probably prefers having a kouhai to overtake her.

>>13496130
yes anon her ugly goblino sister

>>13496061
>to get like 500k to beat coco?
Truth be told Coco graduation alone added some couple hundred thousand to the gap, which was already shrinking

>>13496072
No sane country observes DST

>>13496138
I don't know about this anon we saw her ccv numbers drop this month and now she's playing buff game after buff game. The meme about her not wanting to get big numbers is such a BS take to me.

>>13496227
NTA but they're probably talking about Gura's laziness to streaming schedule.

>>13496227
If Gura wanted big numbers, she would stream more consistently, stream fan interaction stuff, put herself out for more collabs, use social media more effectively, and celebrate her milestones.

>>13496227
>Buff game after buff game
Please don't tell me you seriously think Holos pump up more minecraft streams when they notice their monthly numbers dropping...

Gura doesn't care about numbers.
She hides the CCV on his OBS.

>>13496227
You have to watch Hololive more then. They don't numberfag unlike Nijis cause most Holos are already financially stable and their jobs secure.

>>13496227
Gura could do basic things like stream regularly, put out schedules on time, put in more hours etc that would boost her numbers considerably. This month she’s done Minecraft, Pokémon, and GTA but also done a DMC4 which is a debuff. Doesn’t really seem anything out of the ordinary for her

>>13496061
Funny how you're assuming that holos didn't have any celebration streams and events to get there

>>13496303
>his OBS.
Gura is shota?!

>>13496318
Still, watching her hours watched number from being so low from the start of this month and jump back to top 10 is amazing.

Gonna clear some number brain rot a lil bit

>FBK could get #2 on twitch, beating Elon interview kek
>Towa could get #10 on twitch
Yesterday, we talked about GI and how much marketing by paying streamers. For example, Tectone. He has an average viewership of 9k. Mihoyo probably spent hundred of thousands for him. Hololive has multiple tectones under their banner with some being on the level of top streamers on twitch. If anything, Cover could make the game popular just by having Hologirls streaming it. They'll earn a killing from it, get some investors and make another killing from another game project. And the cycle continues. If they can make it long term, I can see them becoming big in the future and Yagoo's dream to make a VR ping pong world tournament can become true.

>>13496455
Elon is reclining . .

Why do ENs put up schedules anyways? Most JPs just have an usual-ish timeslot and just put up a frame a few hours before the stream

>>13496455
Yagoo's dream has always been to make a multimedia empire out of hololive, he said as much during his interview back in the day and the game and holoalt is his first steps towards realizing it.

>>13496227
If she wanted big numbers she would have dropped anything related to the DMC franchise early this year. But she doesn't since it's her comfy game. It is however numbers poison.

>>13496455
Elon Musk MOGGED

>>13496516
Well, the schedules might make them less lazy.

Gura's PL was even lazier than she is now. Having a manager to actually pester her to stream actually improved her work ethic.

>>13496072
Gen 1 got 65k peak (the day wasn't a holiday right?)
Then this one has a high possibility of breaking past 70k.

>>13496412
It's almost like she didn't stream for a good chunk of the start of the month of something and shitposters love numbers out of context the most?!?! Who coulda guessed.

>>13496516
JP used to put up schedules, but they eventually dropped them with the exception of a few like Nene and Lamy. Schedules are great for garnering a following in the early days but eventually the flexibility of being able to hop on a new trend when it comes out wins out. Especially for the JP talents where seeking permissions is just a phone call away

>>13496061
Working it out she made $583,974 since Coco's graduation, Coco made around $750k between her announcement and graduation so there was a lot to catch up on. For comparison since she "returned", kson has made $376,712, although she didn't stream during July.

>>13496455
You need to strike a balance. They're still chasing trends to get their numbers. If holo starts turning streaming into a marketing business, their numbers will go out the window faster than you can say Yagoo's dream is dead, and this time it's not going to be just a meme.

>>13496646
Not doing schedules also helps them in the endgame of creating viewers that watch them for their personality and not the content.

Towa with another of her 10kplus karaokes. Not much completion for her at this timeslot.

>>13496227
>Minecraft
>AC
>Pokemon
>Skyrim
>GTA
>Smash
She stopped playing Minecraft after getting burnt out trying to finish the haunted house. She played it this weeks as a filler and said as much during the stream.
Animal crossing got the new update she was excited to try out, she talked about it a month before with Fauna.
Everyone is playing Pokemon since they got permissions.
She played Skyrim because of the anniversary meme lol
GTA this one I’ll give you but she had a lot of fun and wants to finish the main story.
She joked about it with Kronii during the DBD collab, they would have collabed sooner but Kronii didn’t confirm the date until after she returned from her break.

>>13496318
Jackbox collab on her channel, super smash bros, unarchive karaoke, skyrim vr.
I also remember her playing dmc but the title has nothing to do with DMC which peak higher than her normal DMC. She said this before aswell that she doesn't like playing MC alone but guess what she played one block alone.

>Gura could do basic things like stream regularly

She wont. She's doing it at her own pace. She's trying to avoid the burn out basically . People are build different anon just because one vtuber can stream everyday doesn't mean the everybody can.

>>13496519
Honestly, they're doing a good job right now, but they still need to advertise their Stars branch more. They missed the part where they could just do an EN audition for stars during ID2 and reap double the benefits from the global yumejofags. Unfortunately, they listened to their current Star roster and stopped debuting males. ENstars could be a best way for JPStars to incline like Myth did to the JP branch or ID2 to the ID branch.

Other than that, HoloKR. If they made one member popular just because she could sing and dance good with a 3D model along with other members, some media corpo would ask to handle the branch like Bili2 with VR and make a killing from KR weebs.

Man, Gura is so lazy I'm beginning to think she does not deserve all that subs. Though it's a good thing now that her CCV has fallen through the roof.

>>13496695
Why is Towa pure sex?

>>13496715
>Unfortunately, they listened to their current Star roster and stopped debuting males


Things like this reminds me how Cover prioritizes the talents over the brand.

They could just not give a fuck about the viewership of the boys and debut a gen whenever they feel like it, but the fact that they're listening to them shows they care.

>>13495778
Suisei can get 42k with that same timeslot, now fucking way sankisei concert would get 50-60k only.

>>13496821
It's just a missed opportunity. A big one at that.

>>13496715
>>13496821
How long can they drag this though? Surely the Stars won't just be stuck with 3 gens and what, 10 chubbas forever

>>13496861
Nine now.

Kiara upping her leach status by putting up a watch along of the Gen 3 free concert. God I just want her to get hit by a bus.

Mel have been very hardworking lately and her Median is even improving.

>>13496227
Because while she might not like being number 1, she also has no reason to actively debuff herself playing shitty games. Gura's a zoomer at heart and will gravitate to the new and shiny games that get released.

>>13496897
meanwhile festival's "revival" frame...

>>13496861
They'll never, vtuber trend is dead in the West anyway, and Stars need EOPs to survive.

>>13496894
kek

>>13496894
Oh shush, managment has actively praised it as a move that's helped sales. I don't know why she didnt do so for Suisei, be it due to no interest or if she just wasn't able to make time for it, but yea if it means sales are improved, that's more money for the girls and I'm fine with that.

>>13496455
Wait, I thought Holos/bigger Nijis were relative small fry on the scene and we are just whacking off our niche.

>>13490146
>major announcement news
>a fucking apex collab
remember this when you think nijiniggers are only retarded /here/

>>13496968
they are small fry and niche in the western world, in nipland not so much

>>13496894
In case you don't know, Coco/Kanata/Suisei had Aqua sololive watchalong before.

>>13496894
How fucking new? Kiara has done that to a lot of the paid concerts already, like I believe she's done it for Holofes 2, Bloom and Gen 1 concert.

>>13496894
Oh no, this will hurt the main channel ccv

>>13496968
Vtubing is still a small niche at the end of the day.
It can bring huge number from time to time but still Weebs see vtuber fans the same way Normal people see weebs.

>>13496968
What made you think that?
Hololive and Nijisanji are relatively giant in the streaming scene, only beaten by the Titans that get 50k+ every stream. It's been that way for at least a year now.
Like ffs, 20k easily lands you in the top 20-30 gaming streamers worldwide iirc. How do your think Pekora ends up as 2nd most watched female streamer? She's certainly not grinding the hours as hard as some of the others on the list, and yet the fact shes up there should tell you plenty.