/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I wish somebody is there for Matsuri right now....what Haachama did cross the line. How could she do that to Matsuri?

>>13218315
Literally just copying some comments from the Matsuri general as an OP is lazy even by the standards of this repetitive shitty bait general.

>>13218315
There’s no hope for them anymore. I genuinely think they might dislike each other that they started to avoid one another. Which is a shame. Hopefully, Cover does something before there’s another incident.

I hope there’s no drama this time around like last time. That’s what’s been worrying me ever since the stream.

>Matsuri, notorious menhera who airs dirty laundry on alts accounts who ghosts people she clings to due to retarded paranoia
>Chama, regularly cancels collabs and meetups at the last second with no explanation, takes breaks, and ghosts people she believes she wronged and makes them worry
Imagine trying to save these women.

>>13221475
Well, she did update her roommate’s alt accounts. So there’s that.

>>13218315
So I ask the AI overlord how to save Matuli:
>How can we save Matsuri from herself? How can we save our society from her insanity? Can we still save all who are in danger? These are the questions we face in this final chapter.

>As soon as Matsuri found that she was pregnant she had to break it to her mother. She couldn’t tell her mother the truth because, as her mother had reminded her many times, the child was a girl.

>Matsuri’s mother had never known why she had been sent to boarding school, and when she finally found out her mother had no choice in the matter, she just couldn’t accept it. She didn’t understand. She didn’t know what was happening to her daughter
>“Matsuri, how can you be pregnant at your age, of all things!”

>Matsuri watched her mother closely and said nothing. She was terrified that if she said anything her mother would become very angry with her. Matsuri looked worried.

>“I think we should leave it, Mother.”

>Matsuri’s mother didn’t say anything, but as soon as her mother was out of the house she told Matsuri to go to her mother and see what she thought of it.

>When Matsuri knocked on her mother’s door her mother yelled at her to get out.

>“Get out! Don’t come here again!”

>Matsuri left the house in anger. She was angry that her mother was calling her a liar

Has Matsuri even commented on this? She was literally stab in the back by her crush and former friend. I don’t know how she can recover from this betrayal.

saving matsuri...

>>13218315
What happened with them?

I don't think Matsuri minded. She would have had a meltdown by now if she did. Maybe Luna actually picked up the phone for once. It's great that Luna and Haato don't really interact but imagine if Luna had shown up...

>>13218315
>Haachama mentions Matsuri on her streams.
>Matsuri replies, likes and retweets Haachama on Twitter.

How we will save /vt/ from baiting threads?

>>13230509
>Matsuri asks haachama if she could participate in her 3d celebration. Haachama says yes.
>Rushia asks Haachama if she could participate in HER 3d celebration. Haachama says yes.
>However, Haachama was about to go on another menhera hiatus (due to college). She lets everybody know well in advance behind the scenes.
>Being responsible, Rushia scheduled the recording for Rushias live concert early so that haachama could make it
>Matsuri, not being responsible, does not, and expects haachama to show up during her hiatus.
>Naturally, haachama can't, and cancels on matsuri.

>Fast forward to when the live shows actually occur. (you didn't really think it was live did you? Its all prerecorded lmao)
>Matsuris live has a cardboard cutout of haachama, likely a staff member filling in.
>Rushia has the real haachama.
>Matsuri watched rushias and concluded that it totally wasn't her fault and that haachama should have come to her live and that life is unfair.
>Has a menhera attack on all her twitters including her official one (she deleted the official ones complaints)
>Everybody rightfully calls her a cunt.
>She makes up with haachama and all is back to normal on the surface.
The worst part is that people keep insist that Haachama did nothing wrong and she was innocent despite her leading Matsuri on.

>>13234924
>The worst part is that people keep insist that Haachama did nothing wrong and she was innocent despite her leading Matsuri on
Did you even read the greentext you pasted?

>>13231805
by saving them anon

>>13235836
But anon can't even save himself, how will he save them?

>>13231805
liar, I don't see it

>>13234924
>>Has a menhera attack on all her twitters including her official one (she deleted the official ones complaints)
What did she say?

>>13236635

>>13239290
I can't read this

>>13239290
Why is hachama such a cunt she seems like a nice girl wtf

>>13239290
So, was Haachama just a moody bitch?

>>13239290
What made her think this was a good idea?

>>13239591
>>13242207
>>13244133
WHAT DOES IT SAY

>>13244246
Do your Japanese reps.

>Matsuri going on hiatus because 'health reasons/throat'
More like to snub Haato's 3D Bday stream
What a bitch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULX76GYG3so

>>13245705
Literally no one who watches haachama, whether they're on this board or not cares about Matsuri at all.
She can actually go kill herself and people would laugh in the face of squirrels, she can try all she wants but haachama will never again treat her like she did before.
>>13246749
Never again anon... Never again...

>>13245705
Many such cases.

>>13246749
What’s happened between them to get this far.

>>13226689
Based gals. That will teach her to have sex.

>>13239290
Ok since no one here bothers to fact check anything. She never deleted anything on any one of her socials. I was following the entire thing every closely and was recording every tweet sent. It's all still there. Matsuri is a lot things but she's incredibly forward with her feelings and rarely deletes anything posted.
https://twitter.com/7216_2nd/status/1416767768905490434?s=20

Just look at all her current yabs. Most of them could have been fixed by running it back or deleting things but instead chose the roughest path to take. Imagine my disappointment when she handled it immediately after and fixed shit. I was preparing for this to become a mega yab but it amounted to nothing but a couple days of dislikes.

You rratposters spinning up this non-drama bullshit into some convoluted revenge scheme are even worse. Baiting newfags with this shit. Any one of the actual haatons and matsurirsu that actually follow them know that those two are on the same terms they've been on even before the yab. They mention each other multiple times on their own streams with no bad blood at all. But none of ya'll would ever know that since you're either EOP's or dramafags. Who even watches streams on this stupid thread.

>>13250079
We obviously know anon, I watch EVERYTHING haachama streams and I can assure you that there's nothing bad between them, they even still talk on discord and Matsuri still retweets and shills some of her stuff.
But that's pretty fucking boring imo and this is much more fun.
HSKW and chammers are and were friends since fucking day so this isn't really that crazy to imagine.
Plus a 3D like this is restrained by the 1 hour mark, I'm sure given more time haachama would've loved to get Matsuri, even all of the Gen 1 girls (though scheduling wise that can be pretty rough) to sing plasmagic seasons to make up for her missing Matsuri's birthday.
Any real haaton knos that haachama doesn't hold grudges against anyone, and any real matsurisu knows that Matsuri is a bit too straightforward with how she feels but she isn't a bad girl.
Things obviously aren't as they used to be when they first started and given the reasons why a lot of Matsuri's connections and bonds are in shambles now we can deduct who's fault it is but that's in history now and we move on.
Final conclusion is that both of them are good with each other, haachama didn't do this to spite Matsuri but it's much more fun to think that way

cope

Matsuri already found someone to be saved by.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jau24XGnRWo

>>13250487
>Final conclusion is that both of them are good with each other, haachama didn't do this to spite Matsuri but it's much more fun to think that way
We don’t know that.

cope

Saving HSKW...

>>13236347
>>13231805
What we should asking Is how do we save OP from making the same thread every week?

How can we convince OP that being a massive fucking faggot doesn't help Matuli?

>>13239290
Haato breaks her promises all the time and cancels shit she doesn't feel like doing at the last second. I'm glad Matsuri is exposing her for being the lazy lying cunt she is.

>>13257646
Stop replying.

>>13235803
NTA but seriously, could Haachama not take time out to do one segment in Matsuri's live?
While Matsuri could indeed have been more on the ball and planned ahead like Rushia did, I would not think that a hiatus meant that Haachama would be doing absolutely NOTHING during that time and even renege on a previous promise.
Matsuri may have overreacted but lets not pretend Haachama didn't screw Matsuri over.

>>13259753
Hiatus is hiatus, it's exactly not doing anything. But I'll agree that Haachama could at least reply her to cancel, but I think this is more a Japan thing (You know, having to literally know what the other is thinking about)

>>13260605
>Hiatus is hiatus, it's exactly not doing anything.
She took a hiatus because "reasons", it's not like she was hospitalized or whatever, her dog didn't even die.
If a self-imposed hiatus meant that Haachama absolutely couldn't take time out to show up to record a 5 min segment, she's a shit friend.

>>13261288
>she's a shit friend
JUST for Matsuri

>>13261574
Then Matsuri is fully justified when she decides to stab her.

Who else needs saving saviorbros?

>>13262216
all EN gen 2
How we save them?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=5jnZMW8C6wA

Well squirrels? Give up this nonsense and let's move on towards a brighter future like our oshi's want.

>>13261574
And this makes it okay when she already agreed to perform for Matsuri's live? What world do you live in where this is okay?

>>13219258
>be haachama
>be friends with HSKW before hololive
>still hang out with her
>this is an outrage for the deranged pansexual who wants to fuck you and your friend

It is difficult to be friends with someone who was probably molested as a child.

>>13263559
People will continue to make excuses for Haachama. She will never improve with people babying her.

>>13219258
>I wish somebody is there for Matsuri right now
There is...

>>13266301
Sad but true.

>>13261288
She didn’t even need to show up, recoding the audio for the song at home would have been fine too

>>13262216
Fubuki.

>>13266369
I don’t think her brother can comfort her

>>13218315
Why are these kind of things being made into threads now? I mean the
>Lets put these 2 together when they shouldn't be
Like the Anya/Petra general. Those 2 never interacted with each other ever. So why? WHY?!?

>>13274671
>So why? WHY?!?
Both of them are menheras in need of saving.

>>13277704
Haato is just a quirky weirdo and Matsuri doesn't want to be saved.

>>13277833
That’s what people tell themselves so they won’t do anything. Both girls are in dire need of saving.

>>13245705
And you know what? Matsuri is right to do so. Haachama snubbed her during her event. Why not do the same?

>>13218315
It’s over between them. I expect a Yabai to happen soon. Like the one in summer. We could have prevent this.

>>13289403
>I expect a dangerous
This thread is full of the worst kind of people

>>13285219
>Why not do the same?
Because its childish.

>>13289664
To be fair, they are young adults.

Finally got to finish up the Pokemon stream. It was comfy. A shame she couldn’t get more viewers.

>>13218315
We need to be more active and vigilant.

>>13297117
Anon, give it up, they won’t fuck you. Maybe Haachama if she’s drunk, but that’s a big if.

>>13227428
Why is Haachama like this? Doesn’t she know she’s hurting Matsuri with this? Is she that callous?

>>13263737
>It is difficult to be friends with someone who was probably molested as a child.
Source?

>>13218315
THERE IS NO REDEMPTION
THERE IS NO REDEMPTION
THERE IS NO REDEMPTION

>>13304832
There’s always a chance at redemption. Haven’t you read the Bible? We must not give up on them.

No rrats please, but how did they get this way? Didn’t they have good childhood?

>>13306701
>Didn’t they have good childhood?
Matsuri's life is pure suffering.

>Friends with a cute as fuck vtuber
>End up coping legitimate feels for her
>Ask her on a proper date and she accepts
>at the end of the date she asks her out
>Gets friendzoned and Hoshikawa tells Matsuri she's straight
>Goes full menhara during a 9 minute breakdown where she cries the whole time
>Finally recovers from the devastation
>Starts spending more time with Luna, who is also a total cutie
>It becomes increasingly clear Luna has actual feels for Matsuri, Matsuri likely feels something back
>Instead of fucking the princess, Matsuri can't help herself and has another massive menhara meltdown
>Goes crawling back to Hoshikawa and throwing endless simp money at her
>Luna gets deeply upset by this and drops Matsuri like a bag of rocks
>Ghosts her and then the awkward birthday stream fiasco occurs
>Luna dropped Matsuri to go try and fuck Subaru who is like 99% likely to be as straight as an arrow
>Now the girl she was simping for and ruined her possible chance at happiness has decided she's totally bi as fuck and wants to fuck everyone but Matsuri
Like holy hell man. Matsuri's life is an actual trainwreck.

I hear matsuri started eating like a pig again. Such a shame After she lost so much weight years ago

>>13306738
>>13306832
And that's why you don't support faggotry of any kind. It ruins thousands of lives

>>13302525
>you aren't allowed to be friends with people because people who used to be your friend want to fuck your other friends

This is why gays were banned from society for 1500 years.

>>13306985
>>13307342
It’s like you two never fell in love.

>>13309794
>NOOOOOOOOOOO I HAVE THE RIGHT TO FUCK ALL OF MY FRIENDS OF THE SAME GENDER

And this is why gays were banned from society for 1500 years.

>>13306701
Strong implications she molested her brother.

Someone save chammers of this fatal terminal cold she's got...

>>13309860
what

>>13311795
It’s true, anon. Don’t deny it. There’s been hints about it.

...I did not think people unironically blamed chaamers for matsuri being matsuri...

I am sad.

>>13312739
Don't try to victim blame Matsuri.

>>13309827
>implying this shit doesn't happen to straight people.
Women will tell a guy no sex until marriage and then he'll find out she's been fucking every one of his friends. Or how about the "i'm not ready for a relationship" line followed by relationship with another guy one week later. Both straight men and women will use each other as rebounds then throw each other under the bus at the slightest chance to "simp" for their ex or whoever they truly love. You literally have 0 experience in anything. This has nothing to do with being bi or gay, it's just human interactions and she had a lot of shitty ones.

>>13311795
He is absolutely terrified of her.

>>13314374
Yeah cheating isn't the same as menhera. It could be considered on the menhera scale though.

>>13312739
Otherwise people would have to blame matsuri for matsuri.

>>13314522
Those were just examples. Matsuri's story could happen to a straight guy or a straight girl.

>>13314547
>her story

It couldn't specifically because she's the fucked up one because she is bi. Men who cheat are also more likely to be bi.

>>13314472
Source?

>>13314601
oh you're retarded, nevermind

>>13314374
It does. The difference is that you don't have to be looking for another mentally ill person that specifically likes exactly the same shit as you, so it's a lot easier to rebound from it.

>>13314472
Matsuri would never molest her little brother. She loves him and would never hurt him.

>>13314374
Never happened to me, but I know friends who did this and now they have a lot of regrets

>Matsuri would never molest her little brother. She loves him and would never hurt him.

>>13314543
Matsuri never did anything wrong.

ah the matuli

Said order to save these menheras, we first need to understand what makes them become menheras, and what other menheras in Hololive share with them. They each lack a strong father figure, not to mentioned they were bullied when they were in school.

In order to save these menheras, we first need to understand what makes them become menheras, and what other menheras in Hololive share with them. They each lack a strong father figure, not to mentioned they were bullied when they were in school.

Reminder that to this day, Matsuri still uses the BGM that haachama picked for her ever since she pretty much debuted.
Chammers.... Matuli...

>>13322068
How could two friends turn on one another.

>>13306738
If this is real and not just rrats, how could Matsuri keep making the same mistakes over and over.

how did it wind up this way?

>>13325472
It is the nature of life. Some people are just doomed. Even still... I want to save her!

>>13325426
Menhera and she never suffered the consequences of her actions.

>>13306832
Source? I thought she was losing weight.

>>13331350
It’s bullshit and rrats trying to make Matsuri look bad.

chama?

>>13218315
>are they doom to hate one another?
>>13219258
>what Haachama did cross the line.
eigo reps

>>13335726
Are you denying it?

Why are people wasting their lives to save these crazy bitches? Just move on. Once their single mothers, Mother Nature will do the rest.

>>13338789
>Why are people wasting their lives to save these crazy bitches?
So you're saying you wouldn't help a woman in dire need of help? Whatever happened to chivalry.

>>13340188
>Whatever happened to chivalry.
It died. Along with our society.

>>13306738
No joke? This is kinda sad.

>>13344329
That one's pretty old too, there's still some extra stuff that happened after the Luna thing and the biggest of it is the whole haachama situation

>>13344495
I still think the Hoshikawa incident is the one where Matsuri never really recovered. She put everything she had to impress her crush and Hoshikawa couldn’t even give her the time of day.

Okay >Be Matsuri
>Fall in love with a girl that likes dick
>Constantly rejected by her
>Cry on twitcasts and make such a huge drama to a point some people start hating your love interest because your menhera attacks
>Talk to a bartender
>Send a lot of marshmallows and superchats to him
>Get drunk and tell him you want him to be your big brother and take baths with you
>Get ignored and rejected by him
>Get completely outclassed by a tomboy with a sexy onee-san voice
>Meet a qt 3.14 pro apex player
>Actually get him to coach you
>The tournament is your chance to impress him and win him over
>End up tilting and your team ends 19/20 only because the other team was memeing with controllers
>Cry and suffer the whole time
>Met another qt in the after games, a spaghetti spilling weatherman
>You actually try to be seiso instead of the degenerate everyone is used to
>Have the time of your life
>He never calls you back
>Find a princess that loves you back
>She calls you when you were depressed after the apex shitshow
>She values and depends on you a lot
>When she gets sick instead of helping her you go back to confess your love to the dick loving girl
>Fall into an endless APEX obsession
>Your viewers tell you to bring some variety and that they are tired of APEX
>Instead of improving you take a break playing more APEX
>Return from break and keep on doing APEX streams
>Fans actually start leaving you
>Start to argue with antis on twitter to later delete everything
>Meanwhile your dick loving love interest is having the best time with a retarded australian
>Despite all of this you keep on streaming APEX, and it seems everything is going fine
>Then a Shark appears
>The Shark puts a trident in your ass and starts buttfucking you
>You start bleeding viewers
>You end up loving it and ask for Gen 5, Korone and Pekora to buttfuck you the next day
>Do a collab with a gook
>Despite being hyped up and having your fox senpai to help you, you still can't make over 5k
>That collab also brings a curse to this land
>get buttfucked in the next days by a detective with brain damage and an autistic reaper
>Boys and girls from all branches are having fun and teetee
>you're alone, playing APEX
>Eventually you decide to stop being an autist and join the minecraft server
>You can't even recognise some of your kouhais
>All of the girls except EN are playing Minecraft together
>EN girls are having collabs together and interacting with each other and her senpais
>All of the boys are playing among us together
>All of them are having fun
>You're alone, lamenting your existence on twitter and crying yourself to sleep
>There's a Yathzee tournament coming
>It's your chance to make a harem with all past love interests
>Dedicate a stream to practice it, alone.
>Tournament happens, you are doing fine
>Suddenly the princess appears, and she's on a warpath
>She utterly destroys your hopes and dreams
>At some point she feels bad about you and tries to throw, but still manages to buttfuck you
>Your dreams of a harem are dead
>Later because of this and much more, you start having menhera attacks and suicide bait on your alternate twitter account
>The menhera attacks are getting stronger, you end up trying to assault a squid in front of her fans
>FRUS TRA TION IS GETTING BIGGER
>You find your kouhais, a CEO, another menhera and a mom
>You want the mom
>BANG BANG BANG PULL MY MENHERA TRIGGER
>The CEO is trying to befriend you but you, as a good menhera, take this as a personal attack and ignore her
>Mommy turns you down politely
>You keep on screaming and attention whoring until you leave without saying goodbye
>Your fanbase is also full of menheras that pretend to be happy but use alternate accounts to have the menhera attacks
>You look for those accounts and reply to them, making some of them delete their accounts
>As the menhera attacks get worse, your roommate makes a stream
>Despite all the makeup and filters, your roommate can't hide her eyebags, a sign of someone who crearly cries herself to sleep
>In a bold claim, you go and say that if the fans don't like APEX they can go eat shit.
>Shortly after go into a break
>Your stalker, that for some reason you thought it was a good idea to make a mod in your channel, thinks that's because of your fanbase
>Your fanbase start to attack each other
>You have to come out and admit that a friend died so they stop fighting between each other
>Meanwhile the princess is having her birthday
>You prepared a cover that you promised months ago
>You retweet it SEVEN times
>You send an aka supacha
>She doesn't mention it
>Not a single holo acknowledges the video
>Have a menhera attack on your roommate account
>Your fans start pestering the princess because of your own stupidity
>Have to make an apology and explanation on your roommate account
>The princess finally acknowledges you
>But to this day she didn't like your video

>Be Matsuri
>Fall in love with a girl that likes dick
>Constantly rejected by her
>Cry on twitcasts and make such a huge drama to a point some people start hating your love interest because your menhera attacks
>Talk to a bartender
>Send a lot of marshmallows and superchats to him
>Get drunk and tell him you want him to be your big brother and take baths with you
>Get ignored and rejected by him
>Get completely outclassed by a tomboy with a sexy onee-san voice
>Meet a qt 3.14 pro apex player
>Actually get him to coach you
>The tournament is your chance to impress him and win him over
>End up tilting and your team ends 19/20 only because the other team was memeing with controllers
>Cry and suffer the whole time
>Met another qt in the after games, a spaghetti spilling weatherman
>You actually try to be seiso instead of the degenerate everyone is used to
>Have the time of your life
>He never calls you back
>Find a princess that loves you back
>She calls you when you were depressed after the apex shitshow
>She values and depends on you a lot
>When she gets sick instead of helping her you go back to confess your love to the dick loving girl
>Fall into an endless APEX obsession
>Your viewers tell you to bring some variety and that they are tired of APEX
>Instead of improving you take a break playing more APEX
>Return from break and keep on doing APEX streams
>Fans actually start leaving you
>Start to argue with antis on twitter to later delete everything
>Meanwhile your dick loving love interest is having the best time with a retarded australian
>Despite all of this you keep on streaming APEX, and it seems everything is going fine
>Then a Shark appears
>The Shark puts a trident in your ass and starts buttfucking you
>You start bleeding viewers
>You end up loving it and ask for Gen 5, Korone and Pekora to buttfuck you the next day
>Do a collab with a gook
>Despite being hyped up and having your fox senpai to help you, you still can't make over 5k
>That collab also brings a curse to this land
>get buttfucked in the next days by a detective with brain damage and an autistic reaper
>Boys and girls from all branches are having fun and teetee
>you're alone, playing APEX
>Eventually you decide to stop being an autist and join the minecraft server
>You can't even recognise some of your kouhais
>All of the girls except EN are playing Minecraft together
>EN girls are having collabs together and interacting with each other and her senpais
>All of the boys are playing among us together
>All of them are having fun
>You're alone, lamenting your existence on twitter and crying yourself to sleep
>There's a Yathzee tournament coming
>It's your chance to make a harem with all past love interests
>Dedicate a stream to practice it, alone.
>Tournament happens, you are doing fine
>Suddenly the princess appears, and she's on a warpath
>She utterly destroys your hopes and dreams
>At some point she feels bad about you and tries to throw, but still manages to buttfuck you
>Your dreams of a harem are dead
>Later because of this and much more, you start having menhera attacks and suicide bait on your alternate twitter account
>The menhera attacks are getting stronger, you end up trying to assault a squid in front of her fans
>FRUS TRA TION IS GETTING BIGGER
>You find your kouhais, a CEO, another menhera and a mom
>You want the mom
>BANG BANG BANG PULL MY MENHERA TRIGGER
>The CEO is trying to befriend you but you, as a good menhera, take this as a personal attack and ignore her
>Mommy turns you down politely
>You keep on screaming and attention whoring until you leave without saying goodbye
>Your fanbase is also full of menheras that pretend to be happy but use alternate accounts to have the menhera attacks
>You look for those accounts and reply to them, making some of them delete their accounts
>As the menhera attacks get worse, your roommate makes a stream
>Despite all the makeup and filters, your roommate can't hide her eyebags, a sign of someone who crearly cries herself to sleep
>In a bold claim, you go and say that if the fans don't like APEX they can go eat shit.
>Shortly after go into a break
>Your stalker, that for some reason you thought it was a good idea to make a mod in your channel, thinks that's because of your fanbase
>Your fanbase start to attack each other
>You have to come out and admit that a friend died so they stop fighting between each other
>Meanwhile the princess is having her birthday
>You prepared a cover that you promised months ago
>You retweet it SEVEN times
>You send an aka supacha
>She doesn't mention it
>Not a single holo acknowledges the video
>Have a menhera attack on your roommate account
>Your fans start pestering the princess because of your own stupidity
>Have to make an apology and explanation on your roommate account
>The princess finally acknowledges you
>But to this day she didn't like your video

>>13345823
No matter how many times I see this, it all seems so unreal.

>>13345823
If all of that is true, then I'm starting to get worried about her for real, holy shit.

>>13347003
The outline of it is mostly real but a lot of it is exaggerated for comedic/dramatic effect, however like I said it's mostly real.

>>13345823
>>Get drunk and tell him you want him to be your big brother and take baths with you
>>Get ignored and rejected by him
My bro here following the never put your dick in crazy advice like a pro. Respects to whoever that was.

>>13347929
I've heard some of those things over time, but I never followed her too close, so I didn't know it was that bad. I hope she can steer her life into a good direction somehow.

>>13347929
If it’s real, then how is it exaggerated for comedic/dramatic?

>>13348847
the wording in some of those are a bit too harsh is what I'm saying

>>13345823
Worry not. She found her next target.
https://youtu.be/jau24XGnRWo?t=880

Haachama has problems with self-image and existential crisis, that come and go in whims, she's inward-focused / selfish and can't keep promises. She's not doing it out of malice towards anyone, she just incapable of merging into normal expectations of society and human relationships. If she has bad episode, that takes priority over any kind of external promises and plans. People understand that's her problem so they give her free pass, which also distorts her world-view into thinking it's ok to be indecisive and break promises.

Matsuri is weak to broken promises / getting ghosted. Also, she's really extroverted and openly communicates her neediness, so normal people around her can be extra attentive to her needs. This also creates an exaggerated world-view bubble where her expectation of people always responding to her needs becomes higher.

Haachama, as a social burger, cannot respond to Matsuri's needs at all, she does not understand how important the promise is to Matsuri, so she ghosts her just like she normally ghosts everyone else, unaware that Matsuri takes 5x damage.

Basically, their individual problems are a perfect recipe for hurt feelings.

>>13349736
>Haachama's problems
now how would alcohol consumption make them worse

menhera bump

haachama wants popularity but also doesn't want it at the same time,
she tasted from the holy grail during her schizo arc, subs, views, superchats, recognition that's pretty much only second to gura!
and what does she do? she goes on a hiatus and cancels everything going off of the grid, because she was too stressed out by what people expect of her.
If you tell her to do something and stress it out she'll be unmotivated to do it because she's afraid of what others might say about her efforts and turns reclusive instead, she stops streaming all together and disappears for a couple of days.
which is why she's been having fun and is on a roll lately, THIS is her comfort zone, this is where she wants to be and where she wants to stay at the moment which is honestly fine.

>>13349736
How do we save them?

>>13353674
chama...

>>13348847
Asteo….

>>13350009
Alcoholics are terrible and a degenerate thing to become.

>>13357956
What about her?

>>13349218
Astel…

>>13302525
Matsuri hurts herself with her insane behavior

>>13227428
WTF, I didn't know they were involved in an NTR scheme.

>>13360404
she is suffering from the deadly Japanese cold

>>13345823
>>Get drunk and tell him you want him to be your big brother and take baths with you
So the whole molesting little brother thing wasn't a rrat.

>>13365393
Hope she gets better.

>>13345823
>>13347929
Damn, she really get a way with it because she has a good looking roommate huh?

>>13370593
Here’s a more modern version:
>For years, tell all your fans you're a lonely virgin who was bullied in school for being fat in order to maximize simp bucks.
>Sexually harass your coworkers, but they don't mind that much because you're a self professed virgin loser who's just lonely and in need of physical contact and so are seen as mostly harmless.
>Some guy on twitter keeps telling people he made it with you so you freak out on your roommate account and tell everyone you haven't had a boyfriend in over 4 years, exposing your lie about being a virgin.
>Cry on stream while being princess carried to masters by predators in APEX.
>Spend hundreds of thousands of yen (several $1000) on akasupas for some random dude's youtube channel.
>Ask Coco for her Line contact info, only for her to respond, "Ew, gross".
>The drama with Haachama is some of the worst interpersonal drama in Hololive history only because you made it public in the most unprofessional way possible.
>Constantly flirt with male collab partners in front of your viewers, regularly telling them you'll send them nudes if they want them.
>Literally in the middle of saying "I haven't had a boyfriend for over four yea-" THE HAND appears. You make up the most obvious lie possible, but are still willing to needlessly worry your most loyal and gullible fans.
>Despite all of this, you're never once punished by Hololive management and instead are featured in more and more promotions, which probably only means one thing.
>People realize that guy on twitter from earlier in the year was probably telling the truth and was actually some guy she had a one night stand with.
Also, we'll never know for sure, but at this point is there any doubt that she's the reason why Kaoru had to leave?

>>13370954
>Some guy on twitter keeps telling people he made it with you
It wasn't just 1 guy, there were around 30 guys saying the same over a few months in the timeline. We really don't know how deep that rabbithole goes and have no way of knowing if they were all telling the truth, but that's something that happened

>>13370954
Just like >>13371909 said it was a bunch of people saying it... I feel like there's something about Gen 1 that just stops cover from actually doing anything, I mean Matsuri is pretty bad but haachama is a yab machine, aki was almost nothing and was on the verge of quitting, Mel probably had one of the biggest amount of issues with YouTube, Chris was... Well chris leaving fbk as the only sane one.
One of the things that I noticed, when the latest haachama yab happened there was an English channel that posted a clip of it, it was a channel that did this sort of doxxing too so chammer's video wasn't the first nor the last, it was at about 25k views when it got nuked by cover themselves however there's another Japanese clip that's from a much bigger channel that's about 10x the size of the English one and it had like 150k~ish views more or less and I'm pretty sure that one was even mocking her after showing the clip yet cover hasn't done anything about it as far as I know.
The best we can do is speculate.

>>13239290
Time of the month maybe?

>>13266369
Wait was she fiddled or something?

>>13372404
I don't think there will be much consequence for early gen because the company probably felt in debt to them. They got hololive through the rough patches and get hololive to where they are right now. They have seniority over most of the people in the company. It all comes down to how the chuubas themselves can handle it. Hachaama is generally pretty unhinged and her dedicated fans expected her to be as well. She got through that whole reflection fiasco acting like nothing and continued doing her shit anyway.

>>13370954
>>13345823
can someone make one of these for Haachama?

>>13374157
Most of what haachama does concerns herself and only herself, as far as I know the only drama she's had with other members are only with Matsuri.
Unlike matusri whose drama concerns her relationship with other people.
The only relationship drama that haachama was in was with her family and that died pretty quickly since for some fucking reason haachama seems to know how to deal with these yabs very very efficiently

>>13375119
Self-harm is still dangerous.

>>13374157
Haatons refuse to try and help their oshi.

>>13382667
Disgusting. And they claim they like Haachama.

>>13218315
Matsuri liked chamers twitt about the 3D though...

>>13227428
Hosikawa is such a skank

>>13244133
she got permission from the management to talk about it for some reason.

>>13386133
I wonder if they even think?

>>13386133
>>13389397
It's possible that she was being vague when asking about the permission.

>>13390368
Seems reckless.

>>13392538
Because it is.

>>13345823
>>13370954
And to think, no one on /vt/ wants to save this poor girl from herself.

>>13218315
Ever since Haachama and Hoshikawa did the event, Matsuri has been silent. I can’t really think of any good reason for her sudden silence.

>>13400129
I'm sure Matsuri learned her lesson the first time. There's nothing to worry about.

>>13400989
I really doubt that.

>>13252398
How long until she ruins it again?

>>13401324
Don’t think like that. Think of the positive. Matsuri made a new friend who could help her.

>>13382667
All attempts to do that ended with anti-chama derailing the threads

>>13401559
Sad. Hopefully they see the light before it’s too late

>>13398029
Chivalry is dead.

>>13402781
and women killed it

UM???? Haachama big girl???? OMG she handle herself. Away you

>>13382667
But I've been telling her on the stream chat repeatedly to stop drinking alcohol

>>13406490
chama...stop posting here and go to sleep, you're sick

>>13406859
No

>>13406490
>OMG she handle herself.
No she can’t. She’s literally a woman child.

>>13406859
no she must tweet
https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1462810925086371840?s=20

>>13410769
Translate it.

>>13409323
>doesn't get chamaposting
Anon...

>>13400989
Matsuri was always jealous of the relationship between Haato and Hoshikawa. She always tries to insert in their relation and have the same dynamics.

>>13410769
Why is Haachama like this?

>>13412050
Anon, she just doesn’t want to be left out. That’s all. I’m sure you understand that.

>>13304537
>Source?
>>13304537 was molested as a child and does not have any friends

God you guys a bunch faggots. Festival is beyond saving by anyone. Only she can save herself. One very simple method and that is to stop being a literal mental.

>>13412721
I just want to save Matsuri.

>>13413914
you can't

>>13412146
Because she is haachama and everything is haachama and only haachama

>>13414065
I have to try.

>>13411404
>chamaposting
Anon, this is serious.

>>13412277
She's just seething and jealous.

https://youtu.be/--c3tOUcrZA
What did she mean by this? She also updated her sub account without any further elaboration other than that she wants to "clip clips"

>>13421449
She’s becoming a numberfag.

>>13421449
even chama doesn't know

>>13344329
No it's not.

DEGENELATE bump

Has there been any update on Matsuri?

>>13431753
she is locked up in her room, denied dick, until she fixes herself

>>13432116
so she's never coming out is she?

>>13433668
No

>>13218315
I love her bros. How do I save Matsuri? I’ll do anything to do it.

>>13437909
>How do I save Matsuri?
You don't. She will just drag you down with her.

>>13441545
This. Menheras just drag down others to their levels.

>>13445379
Maybe its for the best? To be in the same hell as someone you love.

>>13447056
Seriously? What did Matsuri do to get such loyal fanbase that they will subject themselves to menhera hell for her?

>>13412721
Fuck you. I’ll save Matsuri, marry her, and make her a mother so she can be a proper Japanese housewife.

>>13218315
they'll solve it through sex

>>13450461
How do?

we need to save chama form her horrendous sleep schedule

>>13452796
Her sickness has ruined her sleep schedule.... Just how lethal is the nip cold??

>>13453044
Extremely lethal

>>13448223
You're just asking to be NTR'd.

>>13448223
Second-hand goods are generally in stellar condition in Japan. Not sure if that ever held true for Matsuri. No ill intent on my end, give her a shot of cum if that floats your boat.

>>13454401
Matsuri will never cheat on me. I’ll treat her as a princess.

>>13218315
>>13219258
>>13220471
>>13220582
>>13221475
>>13223441
>>13224088
>>13225006
>>13226689
>>13227428
>>13230509
>>13230888
>>13231805
>>13234924
>>13235803
>>13235836
>>13236347
>>13236558
>>13236635
>>13239290
>>13239313
>>13239591
>>13242207
>>13244133
>>13244246
>>13244246
>>13245126
>>13245705
>>13246749
don'T care, I'm still masturbating to matsuri on a Daily basis

>>13458097
that's why she will cheat on you
she requires as strong had

>>13458541
Based, I have an unhealthy obsession with haachama, but I don't jerk off to her because I want to make love to her.
As for matusri, I literally wringe my dick to her especially whenever I see that imagine for that matusri general.

>>13458541
Cooming is all she's good for.

I love matsuri.

>>13462476
"The ride isn't over yet, little Haaton."

>>13458545
No, Matsuri deserves to be pampered.

>>13458545
I want matsuri to cheat on me.

>Matsuri's little brother got to experience this
He's so lucky bros..

>>13469468
>His first time is with his big sister.
There’s no therapist alive that could deal with that mess.

Unironically who do you think will be the instigator of the final yab? Who will have the blood of the holos on her hands? Matsuri? Haachama?

>>13471580
the slightly brown hand on haachamas stream

>>13471806
You mean, when Sana comes to visit, in order to strengthen their Aussie bonds?

>>13471001
Every man’s dream. Especially with how beautiful Matsuri is.

GOD I HAVE SUCH A STRONG DESIRE TO FUCK THESE TWO
I WANT TO MATING PRESS CHAMA AND FORCE ALL OF MY CUM DOWN HER AUSSIE CUNT
I WANT TO TEAR MATSURI'S ASSHOLE IN HALF WITH SOME RAW ANAL SEX

>>13475129
Haachama shouldn't drink anything.

we need to save chammers

>>13478177
and yet she's trying to find stuff to mix with her tequila to make it taste good so she can drink more

bump

I want to have sex

Haachama where are you?!?!

>>13483946
Tell Matsuri you're apex predator and she'll jump on your dick.

>>13485979
I don't want mindless sex, I want love. I want Matsuri to love me.

>>13486103
Matsuri will never love you.

>>13469468
I’ll eat her out if Inwas her brother.

I wonder what's Matsuri's relationship with Noel

>>13495262
Nonexistent. I’m also certain Matsuri suckled on her breasts.

>>13495401
>Matsuri suckled on her breasts.
Man, she can get away with anything. Didn’t she sexually molest Nene or someone recently?

Haachama is out here living her best life festival cope and seethe

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHj_mh57PVMXhAUDphUQDFA/videos
chammers...

save chammers from the deadly jap cold please

>>13495401
What other breasts has Matsuri suckled?

>>13398029
You can't save someone who doesn't want to be saved. She clearly has issues and there are tools to help her with that, but she would rather continue down this path of self-sabotage and self-destructive behavior. No one can help, or save, her from that except Matsuri herself.
The reality is that she needs to realize what she's doing to herself on her own, and then she has to decide what to do from there. Sometimes people are so far gone that all you can do is leave them to their own devices. That is the case with Matsuri. Because she's never going to listen to a bunch of nobodies on the internet. The sooner people realize this, the easier it will be for them.

guys we need to save haachama because she likes this turbo normie trash
https://youtube.com/channel/UCJQsW7LeVEIDCEJU47NmXBA

>>13500316
No, I won’t give up on Matsuri.

I actually like turbowhores now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhMTQlYGE74

>>13504027
What did she mean by this?

Festival...

>>13505750
full obsessed

>>13505750
>>13505935
Matsuri….

>>13505750
>>13505935
Seems that people have reached out for HSKW because for some reason she mentioned her when she was talking about chammers' 3D stream... It really does see like matuli is on suicide watch and the managers contacted HSKW for help

>>13505750
>>13505935
>YWN goose as hard as matuli

>>13505750
>>13505935

what is so great about this blonde slut?

>>13507651

it's not a big deal to me, but the movie is trying to explore the meaning of personhood, and these are only ever used for grieving over infatuations, hypothetical ones at that

>>13501709
This, sluts are hot.

>>13508028
Matsuri yearns for things she can't have. Hoshikawa is one of them.

https://twitter.com/norato_o2/status/1462321439541903360

>>13509074
I'm an obsessed haaton but matusri is probably my number 1 on the list of those who I want to violently dick down until her ankles are knocked loose.
Chammers is for making soft sweet passionate love to while matusri is for primal sweaty breeding

>>13266369
Iyger no

And now Matsuri's roommate is uploading after bath pictures on her pixiv fanbox

>>13370954
>Ask Coco for her Line contact info, only for her to respond, "Ew, gross".
Source?
That sounds hilarious

>>13509669
Coco was genuinely creeped out when Matsuri told her that she was the present for her birthday.

>>13509551
post them

>>13510007
I'm not a paypig, so I don't have them

>>13510007
Anon I'm fairly fairly certain that if you look hard enough through the archives you'll find some.
But from what I heard they're usually teasful stuff, like showing off thighs in a maid outfit... Etc
As for the 10k yen tier? Well again this is just second hand knowledge from what I've seen but there isn't actually anything there other than her roommate trying to make sure that no one leaks anything if that makes sense

>>13509669
https://youtu.be/37WNsAm7x50
https://youtu.be/4TBdW9GkBMg

>>13510222
Sometimes leaks brings you new audience but also brings people who wants more from you (you know, nudes), I can see why she is closing all the doors considering she is still working as an Idol.

>>13505750
>>13505935
>>13507570
>>13507643
Hoshikawa has had a collab planned with Matsuri since last month seaniggers. Find something else to gossip about.

>>13505750
>>13505935
So, it’s confirmed she was actually seething at the event?

>>13513614
well she retweeted these old images today

>>13513709
At the very least, it isn’t as bad as the time Matsuri said she had a dream where Luna and Her still talked.

https://twitter.com/natsuiromatsuri/status/1463587448013815808

>>13501709
Matsuri isn’t a whore.

>>13514385
Hot.

>>13471806
and that brown hand? Is me.

Matsuri's dream
https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/92725959

https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/72888888
https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/89165201

>>13520293
It happened already and she was turned down hard by Hoshikawa

>>13520486
>she was turned down
so it never happened

>>13507643
EOP pulling shit out of their ass, the post

>>13520293
>>13520407
Machuli...

>>13520293
>>13520407
girl love is beautiful

we need to save chama's throat

bump

>>13520575
I mean, she got as far as a love hotel, that isn't nothing.

>>13528613
so, at the last moment, HSKW said no?

>>13529653
Yeah, I’m pretty sure there was a greentext that went a bit more detail on it.

>>13529653
Imagine if she'd taken one for the team
so many tears and pain could have been prevented
she could have been saved

>>13534144
Why was she so selfish?

>>13536965
She didn't know the consequences of her actions.

>>13505750
>>13505935
At this point, this is just getting sad.

To cure Haachama of her menheraness, you have to make her pregnant. Once she’s pregnant she will be force to grow up and take care of her child as a single mother.

>>13536965
Came to her senses. If she actually did that with Matsuri - even if you dont't have a dick to stick in crazy it's a horrendous idea. Good on her, Matsuri would be Matsuri anyways regardless of the outcome

>>13546866
Chammers is the type of woman that'd go hard into postpartum and drown herself and the baby while you're at work

>>13546866
>single mother
why is it always a single mother?

>>13550965
because people in here are manchildren

>>13550965
That way her daughter is gonna have daddy issues 15 years down the line so you can go back and have seconds

>>13551126
but what if its a son?

>>13551365
You go for the mom again and check again after another 15 years

>>13546866
Based pump and dump anon. You deserve a wife who isn't crazy.

>>13309827
>Japan
>gays banned for 1500 years
more like 2 in the 1890s

bump

>>13546866
that would just make it worse

>>13550965
You really think a menhera can keep a relationship alive for more than a few weeks.

>>13556056
when im the bf? yes

From Towa's stream.
1:52:32 [EN] There was this one really shocking one...
1:52:45 [EN] Matsuri-chan....she is truly YABE
1:53:08 [EN] She's the dirtiest in Hololive....lol but she's really nice
1:53:38 [EN] She took me to a sushi restaurant and treated me when I said I like sushi
1:53:49 [EN] She's YABE but she's really a good senapi
1:54:16 [EN] someday I want to treat her to food in turn
Oh no.... Tower...

>>13557556
Towa NO

They both treat their fans like shit and deserve all the hate they get.

>>13558315
>Haachama deserves hate
the fuck are you smoking?

>>13558315
I don't know about Matsuri... But really? Haachama?

>>13348371
I believe it was winning son

>>13561693
Yeah, here's the quick rundown
https://pastebin.com/atTaZWsW

>>13558315
t.falseflag
Bump limit btw, don't fucking add Chammers in this shitty thread, It'll call falseflaggers like this retard

I only came around in early 2020 and didn't know about the pre Coco/Scatman times.
So i was actually surprised that Haachama was the first Vtuber Matsuri tried to save, from this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh8xsTlozWA
Looks like the time Matsuri started her savior obsession.
They clearly had trouble with each other's personality, but at least got along enough at the time to become better entertainers together.

>>13561818
It's inevitable that anti-chama arrives to these threads if Haachama is part of it, and unfortunately, Haachama's name is now and forever connected to Matsuri's menhera rampages because of Hoshikawa.

>>13561771
Kek

>>13562140
THE antichama doesn't hate haachama, he's absolutely not thew person who's making these thread.
Its just some retard who even goes to the Matsuri and haachama generals to try and shitpost.
No one bites his shitty bait so he stays in this thread.
Thankfully it hit bump limit and it'll die but this fag will absolutely make a new thread again sadly, and the thing is he keeps bumping it back and not letting it die

>>13562262
Why won’t you try to save these girls?

>>13562274
Antis are disgusting, anon.

>>13562116
Her story is so inspirational, it gives me so much motivation to do better in my life