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What does the future hold for Natsuiro Matsuri and Akai Haato? Both of them are washed up for different reasons.

For Matsuri, It's a rare day that she talks about loli or eromanga or anything that made her popular in the first place. And that’s not mentioning the fact that her gachikois deserted her after she was too openly sexual towards male vtubers she collabed with, going as far as to say she wanted to drink Chaika's piss and see him jerk off. Another thing is her APEX addiction that is driving the remaining ones off. How can we still play it knowing she’s not even good at the game. Her obsession after a woman in another company who won't give her the time of day is another detriment to her mental health. And now finally, everyone's suspicions of her being a menhera were confirmed when she made drama that should've stayed private with Haachama public just to make herself feel better.

For Haachama, it’s obvious she’s afraid of committing, this can be seen with the cooking contests, her failure to keep her promise to Matsuri, and her just quietly dropping shitposting review and that’s not even mentioning the drop in quality in her videos after she got axed by Hololive Management due to her arcs. Not to mention the untold mental trauma shes currently dealing with due to how horrible Australia was to her.

The question we must ask: how do we save them?

>> No.13569523
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Matsuri is such a menhera bitch. I love her so fucking much. I want to be her boyfriend and let her punch and verbally abuse me so she can relax from all the bullshit that's bothering her.

>> No.13570351

>>13568192
tell me more about Haachama

>> No.13571181

>>13568192
>Not to mention the untold mental trauma shes currently dealing with due to how horrible Australia was to her.
>haachama was forced to live in a locked basement during her time in australia
chammers...

>> No.13572157

It saddens me to think Haachama and Matsuri are legit no longer on friendly terms, just "business terms".
They used to have so much fun with each other.

>> No.13573169

How much of this is true and how much of this Is rrat.

>> No.13574878
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>>13571181
>Haachama tries to Stacy out and go abroad to (((find herself)))
>Instead gets ostracized and bullied by her homestay family in Australia.
>Becomes a complete and total social recluse who can't speak any decent English after an entire year there
>Her worsening mental condition is reflected by her Haachama storyline and character arc
Now imagine had she gotten a boyfriend during that time. Haachama needs to be saved. She’s suffering in quietness. She needs to marry a man who will treat her like a princess. I wonder if that’s why she came up with the schizo lore for her character? As a way to cope.

>> No.13575423

>>13574878
Don't worry guys I'll take one for the team

>> No.13575515

>>13574878
shaddap degenelate

>> No.13575809

>>13568192
>For Haachama
>she’s afraid of committing, this can be seen with the cooking contests
What?
>her failure to keep her promise to Matsuri
If it's true to she cleaver girl
>dropping shitposting review
She still shitposting but not like Coco
>drop in quality in her videos
What? Her shizo video don't have quality, but now it's increase pretty much.
>mental trauma shes currently dealing with due to how horrible Australia was to her
Sad but true. I hope Australia feel guilty and kill herself.

>> No.13577362

>>13568192
>Haachanama's sister was sent to the UK
>meanwhile Haachama was sent to the Philippines and fucking Australia
we can all clearly see who's the favorite… no doubt it shouldn’t surprised anyone that Haachama turned out to be such a menhera.

>> No.13577507

>>13575809
>Her shizo video don't have quality, but now it's increase pretty much.
So, you never watch her?

>> No.13577919

>>13577507
But I watched and I still stand by my opinion.

>> No.13577998

>>13577362
chama chose to go to australia because she thought the whole country was a nature reserve and she would see kangaroos and shit downtown

>> No.13578102

>>13577998
Her parents did not tell her the truth and happily sent her away.

>> No.13579377

>>13577998
Anon, not him, but there’s no point in trying to deflect it. Haachama is an unwanted child and a misfit hapa. Hence the boarding schools in a foreign country. Her parents just wanted her out of the way. Her father especially just wants wants trophy daughters. I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes as far and compare the two of them.

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>>13568192
Matsuri's life is pure suffering.

>Friends with a cute as fuck vtuber
>End up coping legitimate feels for her
>Ask her on a proper date and she accepts
>at the end of the date she asks her out
>Gets friendzoned and Hoshikawa tells Matsuri she's straight
>Goes full menhara during a 9 minute breakdown where she cries the whole time
>Finally recovers from the devastation
>Starts spending more time with Luna, who is also a total cutie
>It becomes increasingly clear Luna has actual feels for Matsuri, Matsuri likely feels something back
>Instead of fucking the princess, Matsuri can't help herself and has another massive menhara meltdown
>Goes crawling back to Hoshikawa and throwing endless simp money at her
>Luna gets deeply upset by this and drops Matsuri like a bag of rocks
>Ghosts her and then the awkward birthday stream fiasco occurs
>Luna dropped Matsuri to go try and fuck Subaru who is like 99% likely to be as straight as an arrow
>Now the girl she was simping for and ruined her possible chance at happiness has decided she's totally bi as fuck and wants to fuck everyone but Matsuri
Like holy hell man. Matsuri's life is an actual trainwreck.

>> No.13581662
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Matsuri's life is pure suffering, an actual trainwreck, if you will.
>Friends with a cute as fuck vtuber
>End up coping legitimate feels for her
>Ask her on a proper date and she accepts
>at the end of the date she asks her out
>Gets friendzoned and Hoshikawa tells Matsuri she's straight
>Goes full menhara during a 9 minute breakdown where she cries the whole time
>Finally recovers from the devastation
>Starts spending more time with Luna, who is also a total cutie
>It becomes increasingly clear Luna has actual feels for Matsuri, Matsuri likely feels something back
>Instead of fucking the princess, Matsuri can't help herself and has another massive menhara meltdown
>Goes crawling back to Hoshikawa and throwing endless simp money at her
>Luna gets deeply upset by this and drops Matsuri like a bag of rocks
>Ghosts her and then the awkward birthday stream fiasco occurs
>Luna dropped Matsuri to go try and fuck Subaru who is like 99% likely to be as straight as an arrow
>Now the girl she was simping for and ruined her possible chance at happiness has decided she's totally bi as fuck and wants to fuck everyone but Matsuri

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>>13568192
Support them and don't forget to take your meds, it's literally the only thing you can do until their eventual graduation comes.

>> No.13584533

Hold up, is Haachama only a menhera because her daddy didn’t love her enough when she was growing up?

>> No.13588287

bump

>> No.13588624

>>13568192
>she made drama that should've stayed private with Haachama public
This is the only part of OP that matters. Gimme a quick rundown?

>> No.13589360

gen 6 bump

>> No.13590732

keep bumping

>> No.13590902

>>13590732
Bow about you add something to the discussion?

>> No.13592065
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>>13588624
Haachama declined recording a message for Matsuri's birthday since she was on break, but later on agreed to show up to Rushia's birthday 3D. Matsuri saw this, got upset and talked about it on Twitter. Afterwards she got a lot of hate for publicizing it and her roommate made a tweet that sounded vaguely suicidal.

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>>13588624
>Matsuri asks haachama if she could participate in her 3d celebration. Haachama says yes.
>Rushia asks Haachama if she could participate in HER 3d celebration. Haachama says yes.
>However, Haachama was about to go on another menhera hiatus (due to college). She lets everybody know well in advance behind the scenes.
>Being responsible, Rushia scheduled the recording for Rushias live concert early so that haachama could make it
>Matsuri, not being responsible, does not, and expects haachama to show up during her hiatus.
>Naturally, haachama can't, and cancels on matsuri.

>Fast forward to when the live shows actually occur. (you didn't really think it was live did you? Its all prerecorded lmao)
>Matsuris live has a cardboard cutout of haachama, likely a staff member filling in.
>Rushia has the real haachama.
>Matsuri watched rushias and concluded that it totally wasn't her fault and that haachama should have come to her live and that life is unfair.
>Has a menhera attack on all her twitters including her official one (she deleted the official ones complaints)
>Everybody rightfully calls her a cunt.
>She makes up with haachama and all is back to normal on the surface.
The worst part is that people keep insist that Haachama did nothing wrong and she was innocent despite her leading Matsuri on.

>> No.13593586

>>13592065
>>13592080
Never knew Haachama was such a Stacy.

>> No.13595115

Haachama has such a dysfunctional home life.

>> No.13596933

>>13584533
> Become a menhera because of dysfunctional family
Many such cases anon like Noel, for example

>> No.13597053

>>13592065
> Prefer one menhera over another menhera
Well even until this day, I still can't understand Haachama's train of thought that led to her chose Rushia over Matsuri while actually she can choose both

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Did we ever find out what why Matsuri retweeted this?

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>>13598866
This is after Haachama’s 3d event by the way.

>> No.13600881

>>13598866
>>13598906
Matsuri is still seething that Hoshikawa picked Haachama lover her. A classic love triangle.

>> No.13602125

>>13600881
>A classic love triangle.
I just hope it doesn't turn violent. God only knows what menhera are capable of once they've been spurn.

>> No.13602248

Havent been here for a while
Any update on Matsuri JAV?

>> No.13602704

>>13602248
Thankfully, no. Hopefully, she will drop it soon enough.

>> No.13602933

This thread used to be fun to shitpost but it's just gotten repetitive, literally the same shit is being said and posted.

>> No.13605435

https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1464196017654427649?s=20

>> No.13610466

https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1464198109320257541?s=20

>> No.13610855

>>13600881
Well Haachama and Hoshikawa both compete for the role of Akai Haato. Since then they're BFF.

>> No.13611102

>>13602933
I'm just here to wait for matuli's inevitable soft porn, hopefully it happens soon

>> No.13611355

>>13568192
Haachama is fine other than her cold though. Why is she being lumped in with Matsuli?

>> No.13612374

>>13611102
>soft porn
give me JAV or give me oblivion

>> No.13612432

>>13611355
Hoshikawa

>> No.13614949

>>13605435
>>13610466
Why is Haachama like this?

>> No.13615304

>>13614949
Sorry bros, I let her sleep a bit more

>> No.13617075

>>13610855
Wasn’t Matsuri also BFF?

>> No.13617307

>>13617075
No, that's the issue. Hoshikawa is distant and cold towards Matsuri. And it seems Haachama was uncomfortable with Matsuri's way of socializing.

>> No.13618695

>>13592080
Haachama did nothing wrong

>> No.13620898

bump

>> No.13621975

>>13618695
Shouldn’t have made a promise to an unstable menhera.

>> No.13622635

>>13617307
>Matsuri's way of socializing
Like on her Apex collab with Astel? I can imagine

>> No.13622886

>>13622635
No, I mean unwanted groping and unsolicited invitations.

>> No.13627395

why does chama do things

>> No.13627581

>>13577362
australia is just as good or better than uk for education

>> No.13627727
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>>13568192
Matsuri is a girl who tries her best but fundamentally doesn't understand how relationships work or what boundaries are. I wouldn't be surprised if she was on the autism spectrum.

>> No.13627785

I'm so tired of Chama's LOLIMGODCHAAMAXD shit.

>> No.13627890

>>13627785
Don't watch her, what's the problem?

>> No.13627926

>>13627785
I never liked it. The best Haato period was after the bomb game collab with Marine/Coco and before the Haachamachama shit. Haachama! was best used as something people shouted when she did dumb shit like dying in Ark AFTER the boss had been beaten. Watching her spamming Getting Over It and Super Bunny Man until she mastered them. Super Bunny Man collbas get old because its always the same jokes from all streamers but her collabs with Matsuri and Iofi in them were interesting because you get to see being a shishou and trying to teach them.

>> No.13627968

>>13610855
Wasn't that false? The guy who made that Story of Haato video or whatever got it wrong. They ARE friends but Hoshikawa didn't actually audition for the role. She thought about it but then went to Niji in the end.

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>>13627890
It's just shit like this when she isn't taking a break. The split personality/coexistence crap is so forced.

>> No.13628140

>>13627968
That's correct. It was a bad translation. Hoshikawa considered it but she never applied.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzwReYXYjiU&t=2072

>> No.13628248

>>13628107
As long as people like it, she'll keep going.
But I thought she was done with split personalities.

>> No.13628332

>>13573169
It's all rrats. I have no idea why they all came to the conclusion that highly sexual girls like Matsuri and Haachama needs saving. If anything the guys they're going to fuck over, or you know might be already be fucking over considering someone like Haachama, that needs saving.

>> No.13628544

>>13628140
Misinformation from clips/clipwatchers is too prevalent. Another misconception I also always see is people claiming Lamy made the janitor joke.
>>13573169
Haato shit is probably a rrat. She had a non-member stream talking about shit. KanaCoco stopped her from quitting but based on that stream, she wants the normie life bro. She's jealous of other kids in uni who can just live their life while she's busy thinking about work and shit like she did in Aus.

>> No.13628610

>>13628332
I'm pretty sure that if the new loli girl's video-making ability is better than Haachama, it's going to stagnate.
Like it was with Coco and English.

>> No.13628707

>>13628544
>She's jealous of other kids in uni who can just live their life while she's busy thinking about work
oh no, poor girl
someone save her from dubbing over fanmade MMDs in five minutes and uploading them

>> No.13628856

>>13628707
Nah, the MMDs were the solution newfag anon. Before that she was fucked due to Aus internet and not being able to react loudly due to homestays. She couldn't do 3D streams either. During one of the Project Winter streams, another Holo had to put a tiny window of her POV on their stream because her Internet was so garbo. Fucking ID had better Internet than her.

>> No.13628962

>>13628856
shes been back for a year and is still doing that

>> No.13629085

>>13628962
Well yea because now she's got the uni shit. The MMDs are the solution anon. Its literally the first thing in my previous post. Streams aren't going to be as plentiful as ages ago unless she suddenly turns away from uni/normie life.

>> No.13629154

>>13629085
Adding on to this. She actually likes living in Japan because she's got friends+family unlike in Aus. During that stream mentioned somewhere above she revealed that she was lying about staying with some rando family members in Australia. She was just in different homestays. Her being back in JP was one of the reasons she considered quitting. Vtubing was a job/escape in Aus and in JP, its now just a job.

>> No.13629253

>>13629154
Dont forget she has since come to her senses thanks to cou selling from other holos and realizing her impact on others, including her new friend. Chammers might be the happiest shes been in a long while.

>> No.13629465

>>13627727
>Matsuri is a girl who tries her best but fundamentally doesn't understand how relationships IN JAPAN works or what boundaries are.
I fixed it for you, the main problem of her approaches is that she tries to get close too early when japanese autism requires like years for even having a normal relationship. She would do better with overseas people

>> No.13629471

>>13629253
>Chammers might be the happiest shes been in a long while.
I'd hope so but i have my doubts

>> No.13629507

>>13629465
>She would do better with overseas people
Not as long as she keeps ghosting for no reason. The West hates that more.

>> No.13629777

>>13629471
She is happy, but I don't understand why she wants the normie japanese life that much considering half of things she is watching is fake as fuck. At least in Hololive she can be more honest with her feelings unlike with your irl friends

>> No.13629818

>>13629507
Yeah, this is pretty fucked up ngl, such an erratic behaviour

>> No.13631322

>>13622886
Haachama is enjoy it. If she wasn’t she would have said something.

>> No.13631516

>>13568192
Haato is fine. Matsuri isn't though. She needs to stop playing fps shit and have more collabs with Holo members, not Nijis or indies

>> No.13631656

>>13631516
>have more collabs with Holo members
She burned all of those bridges already, maybe Fubuki is the last one
>>13631322
Yea right, so much they stopped to speak to each other

>> No.13632894

>>13629777
Haachama just want to be normal, is that so bad.

>> No.13634179

>>13628332
Don’t be in denial. Some of these aren’t rrats.

>> No.13634231

Matuli is pretty drunk rn isnt she?

>> No.13635558

>>13634231
What’s she doing?

>> No.13636959

>>13635558
got drenched going home, and now shes rambling about childhood friend (I am EOP dont judge)

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>>13568192
Ngl I watched that astel collab recently and they seem really on the same page and he can handle her retardation.
I think they could make really good friends

>> No.13637257

>>13637142
You know astel is even a bigger menhera right? He cries on his membership streams and whines more than polka does

>> No.13637275

>>13631516
Matsuri should look up to Haachama and learn how to behave during collabs.
She can show all the shit she can during single streams, but during collabs she can restrain herself.

>> No.13637365

>>13629777
It's cause she's literally never experienced it or was close to anyone like that due to her somewhat rough upbringing so she's got a grass on the other side mentality.
Also what she considers normal most definitely will be different from what you consider it

>> No.13637660

>>13637257
Explains why they were on the same wave length, basically a mirror match, but astel doesn't burn bridges and seems to be good at keeping friends around

>> No.13638473

>>13637365
>she's literally never experienced it or was close to anyone like
You've never watched Haachama. Forget about Hoshikawa, she has at least one friend she's been close to since kindergarten. She even invited her to her karaoke stream.

>> No.13638778

>>13638473
>she's been close to since kindergarten. She even invited her to her karaoke stream.
anon don't tell me you actually thought error chan was from kindergarten..... its chamas uni friend

>> No.13639909

>>13636959
Man, Matsuri is in shambles.

>> No.13640370

>>13638778
>its chamas uni friend
She talked about her before she went to uni. If not since kindergarten, then certainly since high school.

>> No.13641689

>>13632894
you can't have the cake and eat it

>> No.13642578
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13642578

https://twitter.com/magowasabi/status/1464394265694380033/photo/1

>> No.13643988
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>>13636959
>shes rambling about childhood friend
Is it a male or female childhood friend.

>> No.13646047

>>13643988
if it's the same one from some earlier photos, then female

>> No.13648283

>>13574878
So Haachama found out she was a Becky and not a Stacy during her trip to Australia?

>> No.13650806

>>13646047
Ah, alright.

>> No.13651751

>>13648283
She is a Becky inside her own family

>> No.13655188

>>13651751
Explain?

>> No.13656584

>>13627727
The fuck is going on with these tweets?

>> No.13657351

>>13655188
Haachama does not take shit from anyone, except her family.
She's a Stacy outside but with her sister and mother and her homestays she was a Becky

>> No.13659360

>>13642578
Lewd.

>> No.13661017

>>13657351
Sad. I hope Haachama’s family love her still.

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